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U.S. District Court for the Central District of California · No. 2:20-cr-00579-SVW · Doc. 673 · 2021-07-09 · Docket on CourtListener

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A reporter's transcript of proceedings in United States of America v. Richard Ayvazyan, et al., No. 2:20-cr-00579-SVW, before the Honorable Stephen V. Wilson in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, Western Division, filed July 9, 2021 as Document 673. The 126-page volume is captioned Jury Trial - Day Three, Volume 1, A.M. session, dated June 17, 2021, and sets out appearances for the United States and for defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Marietta Terabelian, Artur Ayvazyan and Vahe Dadyan, followed by a witness index and an exhibit table. The opening session, held outside the presence of the jury, records the court reconsidering a pretrial ruling in limine and holding that gold coins and a watch may be introduced in their physical form. Counsel for Terabelian then objects to Exhibit 16B on relevance and Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b) grounds.

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA - WESTERN DIVISION 
 
HONORABLE STEPHEN V. WILSON  
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE PRESIDING 
- - - 
 
United States of America,   
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                     PLAINTIFF,    ) 
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VS.                                )  NO. CR 20-579 SVW 
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Richard Ayvazyan, et al.,  
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                       DEFENDANT,  ) 
___________________________________) 
 
 
 
REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS 
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 
JURY TRIAL - DAY THREE 
VOLUME 1 - A.M. SESSION 
THURSDAY, JUNE 17, 2021 
 
 
 
_____________________________________ 
KATIE E. THIBODEAUX, CSR 9858 
U.S. Official Court Reporter 
Suite 4311 
350 West 1st Street 
Los Angeles, CA  90012 
 
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APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL: 
 
ON BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFF, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: 
 
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 
U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 
BY: CATHERINE SUN AHN, AUSA 
-and- SCOTT PAETTY, AUSA 
312 North Spring Street 
Twelfth Floor 
Los Angeles, CA  90012 
-and-  
Christopher Fenton   
US Department of Justice  
1400 New York Avenue, NW  
Washington, DC 20530  
 
 
FOR DEFENDANT R. AYVAZYAN: 
 
Ashwin J. Ram   
Steptoe and Johnson LLP  
633 West 5th Street  
Suite 1900  
Los Angeles, CA 90071  
 
Meghan Newcomer   
Steptoe and Johnson LLP  
1114 Avenue of the Americas  
New York, NY 10036  
 
Michael A. Keough   
Steptoe and Johnson LLP  
1 Market Street  
Spear Tower Suite 3900  
San Francisco, CA 94105  
 
Nicholas P. Silverman   
Steptoe and Johnson LLP  
1330 Connecticut Avenue NW  
Washington, DC 20036  
 
 
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APPEARANCES (Cont'd): 
 
FOR DEFENDANT TERABELIAN: 
 
John Lewis Littrell   
Bienert Katzman Littrell Williams LLP  
903 Calle Amanecer  
Suite 350  
San Clemente, CA 92673  
 
Ryan Vaughan Fraser   
Bienert Katzman Littrell Williams LLP  
601 West 5th Street  
Suite 720  
Los Angeles, CA 90071       
 
FOR DEFENDANT ARTUR AYVAZYAN: 
 
Jennifer J. Wirsching   
1935 Alpha Road  
Suite 216  
Glendale, CA 91208  
 
Thomas A. Mesereau, Jr.   
Mesereau Law Group  
10100 Santa Monica Boulevard  
Suite 300  
Los Angeles, CA 90067  
 
 
FOR DEFENDANT VAHE DADYAN: 
 
Peter Johnson   
Law Office of Peter Johnson  
409 North Pacific Coast Highway  
Suite 651  
Redondo Beach, CA 90277  
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I N D E X 
 
WITNESS NAME                            PAGE 
MARYLEE ROBINSON  
Cross-Examination by Mr. Ram             12 
Cross-Examination by Mr. Littrell        43 
Cross-Examination by Mr. Johnson         54 
 
ARTUR HAKOPYAN  
Direct Examination by Mr. Paetty         69 
Cross-Examination by Mr. Littrell        79 
 
SPENSER KIM  
Direct Examination by Mr. Fenton         83 
Cross-Examination by Mr. Keough          89 
Cross-Examination by Mr. Mesereau        91 
 
CAITLIN BOWDLER  
Direct Examination by Ms. Ahn            92 
 
 
EXHIBIT                         I.D.      IN EVID. 
801                             64          65 
50A                             74          75 
50B                             75          75 
50D                             75          77 
50E                             76          77 
54A                             85          85 
54B                             86          87 
54D                             87          88 
54F                             88          89 
27                              96          97 
10                              99         100 
56L                            101         101 
56M                            102         102 
56N                            103         103 
56N                            104         104 
56O                            105         105 
56P                            105         105 
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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA; WEDNESDAY, JUNE 16, 2021 
9:00 A.M.  
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(The following proceedings were held outside the 
presence of the jury:) 
THE COURT:  We are present with the parties and
counsel.  I just wanted to take up the matter of the
government's renewed motion, motion for reconsideration
on my prior pretrial ruling in limine to bar the
introduction of the gold coins and the watch.
The court has reconsidered, and I will give
the defense an opportunity to speak, but my thinking is
that at the time I made the ruling I didn't know how the
case would progress.  And I certainly didn't know what
appears to be defendant Terabelian's defense or at least
a part of it as stated in the opening statement that she
was a housewife who didn't know business or finance and
just took direction from her husband, Richard Ayvazian.
There was no question ever in my mind that
physical evidence was not admissible.  It is admissible.
I just thought it was unnecessary at the time, but, given
the nature of the defense and also some rethinking based
upon my rereview of the Old Chief case, I am thinking
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that it ought to be received.  And I don't think it is
momentous either way, but that is my view.
If the defendant wants to make some argument,
I will hear it.
MR. LITTRELL:  May I be heard briefly?
THE COURT:  Yes.
MR. LITTRELL:  I will step to the lecturn.
THE COURT:  Yes.
MR. LITTRELL:  Your Honor, I would respectfully
ask the court to stick with its original ruling.  I think
the issue that the government raised essentially is that
it intends to rebut a defense that Ms. Terabelian was not
involved or didn't know what was happening based on the
fact that gold and jewels were found in the house.
Now, as the court noted, the gold and jewels
and gold coins are admissible in their physical form.  No
one disputes that.  My concern is that a photograph could
create the impression which is exactly what the
government wants that Ms. Terabelian knew about them or
saw them.  Unless those photographs were taken in the
exact place where these items were found in the first
place, they have no probative value and, in fact, tend to
create the false impression that she was aware of and saw
these items.
THE COURT:  Well, let me focus on what you just
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said.  The government intends to introduce that evidence
through photographs; is that correct?
MR. FENTON:  No, your Honor.  The physical
evidence.
THE COURT:  The actual gold coins.
Now, I was doing a rough calculation.  The
price of gold -- I never bought any gold, but
occasionally I will look at the metric, and it is
somewhere around, you know, 15-, 16-, $1800 an ounce, and
the gold coins were -- how many kilos?  $120,000 worth.
So 120,000, I was trying to do the calculation.  And it
seemed to me that that was somewhere around four-pounds
or four-and-a-half pounds, something like that given the
price of gold that I mentioned.
And is there any evidence about where the gold
coins and the watch were found in the house?
MR. FENTON:  Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Where were they found?
MR. FENTON:  They were found in the bedrooms.
THE COURT:  In the where?
MR. FENTON:  Bedrooms.
THE COURT:  Bedrooms.
MR. FENTON:  Yes.
THE COURT:  I see.  
Last word.
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MR. LITTRELL:  I just wanted to make sure that
someone could testify that they actually recovered and
photographed them in the bedrooms, and that is not going
to be brought in through a hearsay witness.
THE COURT:  Well, I mean, it seems to me we are
going to hear I thought from the agents who conducted the
search; right?  I would think they would know.
Any event, that is going to be the ruling.
Let's get the jury.
MR. LITTRELL:  Your Honor, there is another issue
about an exhibit that is Exhibit No. 67.
THE COURT:  What is it, 67?
MR. LITTRELL:  That is a picture.  I will see if I
can show it on the screen.
MR. LITTRELL:  I'm sorry.  It is 16B.  Exhibit 16B
is a screen shot of an image that the government contends
came from Ms. Terabelian's phone.
THE COURT:  I am not seeing that on my screen.
MR. LITTRELL:  Hopefully, it should be with you
shortly.  So this is an exhibit that the government
intends to introduce.  And I think what they intend to --
this microphone needs to get looked at, but, your Honor,
this is an image that the government I think intends to
introduce.  It was actually found on Ms. Terabelian's
phone.  The problem is we later found out through looking
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at the forensic report associated with this image that
this image was actually captured in 2018 which is two
years before the scheme alleged in the indictment began.
So whereas we previously were under the
impression this was a photograph taken during the time of
the alleged conduct in this case, we now know from the
forensic reports that it was taken two-and-a-half years
earlier.
THE COURT:  Let me get the government's response.
I don't know what all that means.  The only thing that I
recognize is Fiber One Media on the bottom.
MR. FENTON:  That's correct, your Honor.  So the
phone that that photograph was contained on is a phone
that was in Ms. Terabelian's possession on the date of
the search on November 5th, 2020, which means that she
had that picture in her possession at a relevant time
period.  So it is not like it is an older photograph that
was not in her possession during the time of the
conspiracy.
The other thing that I would note is that --
THE COURT:  Well, just briefly, tell me what is it
that you understand Mr. Littrell to be saying about its
creation in 2018.
MR. FENTON:  My understanding is that Mr. Littrell
is arguing that because the photograph was created in
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2018 that it could not have relevance during the 2020
time period, but the relevance of the document is that it
shows that Ms. Terabelian had a link and knowledge and
awareness of Fiber One Media which was one of the
companies that was used to apply for many PPP loans
including in the name of Victoria Kauichko.
MR. LITTRELL:  Just to be clear, it is not just a
relevance objection.  It is also a 404(b) objection.
This is actually other acts evidence because it actually
took place in 2018.
So that has significance in two ways:  One is
it is other acts evidence, and the government was
required to give written notice of its intention to
introduce other acts evidence under Federal Rule of
Evidence 404(b)(3).  It is actually a new version of the
rule.  So there was no written notice of that.  Second,
it goes to the 403 balancing analysis.  The government
has just told that you it intends to use this image to
prove that Ms. Terabelian had knowledge that it was on
her phone, but, in fact, 44,000 images were found on her
phone.  Most of those images were from years before, and
what happened apparently is that her iCloud account which
is a cloud-based repository of data just dumped right
back on her phone when she got a new known.  The evidence
is also going to show that this is an iPhone 12 which
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wasn't even created until 2020 in October.
THE COURT:  When is this intended to be
introduced?
MR. LITTRELL:  I would ask the court to exclude
it.
THE COURT:  Well, I mean I want to think about
that because that is a new issue for me.  Is it going to
be introduced by a witness coming up? 
MR. FENTON:  Yes, your Honor.  It is going to be
introduced as digital evidence from the phone, and the
evidence from the phones will be introduced this
afternoon.
THE COURT:  Okay.  Well, we have a little time to
think about that.  I will think about Mr. -- Let's get
the jury.
So the ruling is the government can use the --
introduce the gold coins and the watch.
MR. FENTON:  Thank you, your Honor.
MR. LITTRELL:  If that is in their physical form;
correct?
THE COURT:  Physical form.  Yes.
(The following proceedings were held in the 
presence of the jury:) 
THE COURT:  Good morning, members of the jury.
Thank you once again for being on time.  It really helps.
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I know it takes a special effort, and the parties and the
court appreciate your effort.
We are going to continue with trial.  I felt
we were at the point where we were going to have
cross-examination of the last witness, Ms. Robinson.
Am I correct?
MR. RAM:  Yes, your Honor.
THE CLERK:  You are reminded that you are still
under oath.
CROSS-EXAMINATION  
BY MR. RAM: 
Q
Good morning, Ms. Robinson?
A
Good morning.
Q
Are you familiar with the concept of six degrees of
separation?
A
Yes.
Q
And what is it?
A
That -- I don't have a technical definition, but I
guess what comes to mind is that individuals or parties
are somehow connected between each other within so many
connection points.
Q
Okay.  And does your analysis, the chart you
prepared at Government Exhibit 115 that we talked about
yesterday, does that take into account this concept of
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six degrees of separation?
A
I am not sure what exhibit is Government Exhibit
115.  I don't have the numbers memorized.
Q
Sure.  Let's pull up 115.  This is the summary
chart you said you prepared; right?
A
Yes.
Q
And does this summary chart take into consideration
the concept of six degrees of separation?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This is very
confusing.
THE COURT:  It is not clear to the court the
relationship between some phrase, six degrees of
separation, and what this witness testified to.  If you
intend to link it up, I will give you the opportunity,
but, at this point, it isn't clear.
MR. RAM:  I will make it clear, your Honor.
Q
So, for example, did you consider how money moved
before PPP and Covid existed in March of 2020 between
some of the same individuals and parties?
A
I was asked to summarize the activity from when the
funds arrived in the accounts, the PPP and EIDL loan
funds arrived in the account and follow it through.  I
did have records of prior activity.
Q
So the answer to the question would be you had
records to do that, but you didn't?
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A
It is -- the starting point of tracking where the
loan funds go starts when they arrive in the account.  So
although I had the activity prior to that, all I need to
know is the account balance the day before the funds
arrive to show where the money goes.
Q
I want to make sure you understand my question.  I
understand the exercise you conducted.  It is just simply
asking did you take into consideration and analyze how
money moved between these entities and individuals on the
summary chart you prepared before Covid, so before March
of 2020 and PPP.
Did you consider whether, for example, it is
the exact same pattern of transactions and money flowing
between the parties.  Did you consider it?
A
So I looked at the prior banking activity, and you
don't see transactions like this in large amounts, in
flat amounts like 20,000, 50,000, hundred thousand
between these parties really before this PPP and EIDL
funds come in.
Q
Let's talk about that.  So how far back did you
look to see whether there were transactions, for example,
of $30,000 moving between some of the same parties listed
here?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This is
beyond the scope of Ms. Robinson's testimony.
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THE COURT:  I mean, it is beyond the scope because
her testimony as she said was with regard to the transfer
of the PPP loans to various accounts and then her tracing
those monies through the accounts as she testified.  But
I will let you continue, and I take it you are getting to
a point.
MR. RAM:  I am, your Honor, and I can even
directly relate this to the significance.
Q
So you were asked to prepare a summary chart you
said to summarize voluminous data so it would be helpful
to the jury; right?
A
Yes.
Q
So I want to talk to you about the context of what
you looked at and what you didn't look at; right?  So if
you remember, my first question to you was this concept
of how everybody is connected within six degrees of
separation in some way.
And so my question to you is, for example, did
you look at the fact that the individuals that exist that
are on this chart and some of the same entities are, for
example, part of the Armenian community in LA?
Is that something you considered to assess and
relate the information in your chart?  And that is a
yes-or-no question.  Did you consider that?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This assumes
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facts not in evidence.  It is confusing because it ties
back to the six degrees of separation.
THE COURT:  I will sustain the objection.
Q    BY MR. RAM:  Okay.  Let's take a look at what we 
have on the screen.  It is page 1 of Exhibit 115, and it 
identifies the -- let's see the first, second, fourth, 
sixth column over. 
THE COURT:  Let me just say this:  And this -- I
am not even going say it.  Go ahead at this point.
MR. RAM:  Okay.
THE COURT:  I just censored myself.  I think that
is a good ability, isn't it.
MR. RAM:  Thank you, your Honor.
Q
Let's take a look at that first account there,
Secureline Realty and Funding.  That was an account
opened in December of 2013; is that right?
A
Yes.
Q
And how far back did you review the bank records
for Secureline Realty and Funding?
A
January of 2020.
Q
Okay.  So you didn't go into anything before that;
is that fair to say?
A
Yes.
Q
Let's take a look at the next row.  It is another
Secureline Realty account, and the open date is
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November 20th, 2014.  How far back did you go on that
account?
A
January of 2020.
Q
Okay.  I think we can streamline this then.  Is it
fair to say for all these accounts, even the ones opened
years before 2020, you didn't look back at the bank
statements before January of 2020?
A
That is a fair statement.
Q
Okay.  And is it equally fair, then, if there were
transactions between these same parties in various
amounts before January of 2020, you didn't take that into
consideration for this chart?
A
Well, I would say it is not going to be applied to
every single account that January 20 date.  As you can
see on line 10, the Iuliia Zhadko account shows the time
period as going back to September of 2019.  So there are
instances where I was provided records that went back
earlier.
Q
So for some of these accounts, you did go before
January of 2020 in your analysis?
A
The column on the right indicates the time period
that I reviewed.
Q
Okay.  Let's look at that together.  I will clear
the screen.  Just so that is clear for the jury, you are
referring to this time period, these two columns here?
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A
Yes.
Q
For the record, I am indicating the column called
time period.  Now, help me here, other than the account
in row 10 which you just referenced, is there any account
for which you looked at transaction data before January
of 2020?
A
Not on this page.  This is a two page Exhibit.
Q
Okay.  Let's go to the next page.
Q
Now, for all of these accounts on this page, is
there any -- and I see some of these accounts were
opened, all of them were opened after January 20 on this
page -- is there any account information that you looked
at to see if they were related.  
Let me give you one example.  So Runyan Tax
Services, we heard -- well, Runyan Tax Services, this is
one account for Runyan Tax Services; right?
A
Correct.
Q
Did you look for other accounts for Runyan Tax
Services that existed five, six, seven years ago?
A
That was beyond the scope of the work I was
performing.
Q
Fair enough.  And that is what I am just trying to
understand.  So the answer is, no, you didn't look at
other accounts related to Runyan Tax Services?
A
I suppose it is possible I had an account for
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Runyan, but it wasn't related to the actual following the
funds, the loans received and where those monies went.
So I suppose it is possible there is another Runyan
account that may have been provided to me but it wasn't
relevant to the ultimate review of records associated
with the receipt and following the funds exercise.
Q
Okay.  And that is because the government didn't
tell you to look at those other accounts; right?
A
It is because those accounts were not associated
with the activity I was reviewing.  I mean, you are
looking at all the activity where money is going and if
those accounts aren't involved, then --
Q
Well, let me clarify that for the jury.  Did you
decide which accounts you would look at, or did the
government dictate to you which accounts you would
review?
A
Well, the process was I reviewed the loan files to
identify where the loan money was to be deposited.  There
is a place on the form when you apply for a loan that
says send the money here once I am approved.  I went
through those files and identified where the money was
scheduled to go.
Then, the government provided me those
accounts, and I reviewed those accounts and, then, any
accounts that I saw funds going to from there that were
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needed to complete the review of the records.
Q
And to be clear, the loans literally didn't start
till there was Covid, right, in March of 2020?
A
That is correct.
Q
So if there is account activity before March or
let's go even January of 2020 you are not analyzing it;
right?
MR. FENTON:  Objection.  Asked and answered
multiple times.
THE COURT:  Sustained.
MR. RAM:  Okay.
Q
Now, let's break down -- I think we have been
talking a little bit about your charge and what you did,
and is it fair to say your instructions came from the
government?
A
Yes.  The government retained me and asked me to
summarize voluminous information in this case.
Q
And the government provided you with certain
materials to look at; right?  
A
Yes.
Q
Specifically, they gave you loan files and bank
accounts; is that right?
A
Those were two of the items, yes.
Q
Okay.  Go ahead and tell us what else the
government shared with you to review.
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A
Escrow documents associated with the closing of the
three properties.  There were documents provided by some
of the entities where purchases were made.
Q
Anything else?
A
I think that would cover -- I am not thinking of
any other sources.
Q
Okay.  Fair enough.  And let's take a look at the
loans identified on Government Exhibit 115.  Is it fair
to say this chart, these two pages, captures 24 total
bank accounts -- excuse me.  I misspoke.  24 total bank
accounts that you reviewed and analyzed for purposes of
your chart?
A
Yes.
Q
But, in reality, the government actually provided
you with at least 153 bank accounts; isn't that true?
A
I don't know the precise number, but there were
other bank accounts provided.
Q
Okay.  And that was the government who gave you
those 153 bank accounts, not any other party, and you
didn't indepently search for bank accounts.  
Is that fair to say?
MR. FENTON:  Objection.  Misquotes the witness'
testimony.
THE COURT:  Well, she can answer however she
wishes.  I mean, do you understand the question?
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THE WITNESS:  Can I have the question read back.
Q    BY MR. RAM:  Yes.  Of course.  It is just a 
foundational question.  So the government gave you the 
153 bank accounts.  In other words, you didn't go around 
pulling bank accounts independent of the government and 
the information they shared with you; is that right? 
A
Any bank accounts I had in my possession were
provided to me by the government.
Q
Okay.  And do you dispute that you were provided
with actually 153 bank accounts?
A
I just don't know the precise number so I rather --
my testimony is that I received additional bank accounts.
Q
Okay.  And I think I might be able to show you
something that will help you jog your memory but give me
a second.
Is it also fair to say that only 54 of the 153
bank accounts the government shared with you had any PPP
loan funds in them?
A
Really, that is beyond the scope of the testimony
that I was prepared for today and my slides and
everything.  So I just don't know -- I don't know that
number.
Q
Sure.  Let me -- would it refresh your memory if I
shared with you correspondence you had with the
government talking about the number of accounts, bank
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accounts that you would review and how many accounts
actually had PPP loan funds in them?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This is
beyond the scope for the reasons that the witness just
testified.
THE COURT:  Well, it may, and it is not for me to
say, have some relevance in another way.  So I will let
it proceed for a while.
MR. RAM:  If it is possible for Mr. Cruz to turn
on just the witness' screen so the jury cannot see what I
am putting up.  It has not been admitted in evidence.
So I am showing the witness only -- all right.
I am pulling up what has been previously marked as
Defense Exhibit 28 for identification purposes only which
should only be displayed on the witness' screen.
Q
I am going to have you review the document
including the last page and ask you if that refreshes
your memory on how many accounts the government asked you
to look at and whether only 54 of those accounts had any
PPP loan funds in them.
Can you see the document on your screen,
Ms. Robinson?
A
Not yet.
MR. RAM:  Mr. Cruz.
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MR. RAM:  Mr. Cruz, can we get the exhibit to only
show on the witness' screen.  I apologize.  Just on the
witness' screen; is that right?  Thank you so much.
Q
Ms. Robinson, if you like I am going to click
through the pages for you.  The summary is going to be on
the last page.  Just read it to yourself, and then I will
ask you the last question.
A
Okay.
Q
All right.  Did that -- we can take that down off
the screen.  Did that refresh your recollection as to the
fact that the government asked you to review 153 bank
accounts?
A
It refreshed my recollection, yes, but I would say
that those loans may not all be related to entities in
this case.
Q
That is actually the point, but my first question
is does this refresh your recollection that you were
asked to review 153 bank accounts?
A
I think it is probably that we were provided.  I
don't know if we reviewed all of them, you know, but I
can acknowledge that there were 153 there.
Q
Okay.  And can you also acknowledge that only 54 of
those 153, roughly a third, you are an accountant, but
roughly a third only had PPP funds in them?
MR. FENTON:  Objection.  That misstates the
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document.
MR. RAM:  There is no document pending, your
Honor.
THE COURT:  Don't talk to each other.  I don't
know what is in these documents.  So if the witness is
able to answer the question, she can.  If she can't, she
can say so.
THE WITNESS:  Can you put the summary back up on
my screen?
MR. RAM:  Of course.  Mr. Cruz, I apologize it is
on?  Okay.  Defense Exhibit 28, last page.
MR. FENTON:  Your Honor, for the record, the
defense has not provided the government a copy of this
document.
MR. RAM:  For the record, your Honor, this is from
the government, and I can give them the discovery page.
THE COURT:  All right.
THE WITNESS:  Can I see the e-mail about it?
MR. RAM:  Your Honor, may I approach the witness
with a physical copy of the document Exhibit 28?
THE COURT:  Yes.
MR. RAM:  I am also providing a copy to the
government.  This might make it easier.
THE WITNESS:  Okay.
Q    BY MR. RAM:  All right.  Let's try that again.  So 
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did that refresh your recollection that only 54 of the 
153 bank accounts that you looked at contained, quote, 
accounts with PPP SBA income? 
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  Again, it
misstates the document.
THE COURT:  She was asked the question, and she
has looked at the document to refresh her recollection.
If she has a recollection that enabled her to answer the
question, she can.  That is all -- that is all there is
before us now.
THE WITNESS:  So I would say this summary
represents, at that time, which you know at this moment
in time when this e-mail was sent in February of 2021 --
MR. RAM:  Objection, your Honor.  I move to
strike.  The e-mail is not in evidence.  That was simply
to refresh the witness' memory.  The question is
simply -- I will pause on that before I continue if you
like, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Well, let her answer.  You asked her a
question, and are you going to answer?
MR. RAM:  Sure.  And may I also take back the
document, your Honor?
THE COURT:  Not right now.
MR. RAM:  Okay.
THE COURT:  If you have an answer, you can give
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it, Ms. Robinson.  If not, we can go to another question.
THE WITNESS:  So all I was going to say is, you
know, this is a schedule that was prepared at a moment in
time, and it represents that at that time for the
accounts that we had received that may be related to a
much broader set of parties not just those related
specific here, there were -- those were totals associated
with the SBA and EIDL loans that had been identified in
those bank accounts.
Q    BY MR. RAM:  Okay.  And is it also fair to say that 
those 54 bank accounts was further reduced to only 24 
bank accounts that ultimately made it into your summary 
chart? 
A
It is possible that the 24 are a piece of the 54 or
53, whatever the number you used was.  I can't say with
certainty that it is like all 24.  I would have to review
the list.  We would have to do a side-by-side comparison
to confirm that all 24 are part of that group.
Q
Okay.  And I actually want to jump on something you
just said when I asked you about the reduction from 153
bank accounts to 54 bank accounts to now 24.  You said
those other bank accounts meaning the delta, the
difference between 153 and 54 relate to other cases,
other cases that are under investigation, not this case?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This is way
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beyond the scope of Ms. Robinson' testimony.
THE COURT:  Well, now, I think it is drifting in
that regard.  I mean it is for the jury to determine, but
the witness seems to be testifying that she prepared the
summary charts based upon only documents that the
government provided to her and asked her to perform a
specific task.  I have allowed some of the questions for
a different reason, but that is the starting point.
So if you are getting into other
investigations, I think that is beyond this case.
MR. RAM:  Yes, your Honor.  May I ask one question
to follow-up on the witness' statement about other,
meaning loans and accounts not related to this case?
THE COURT:  I don't know what the question is.
Ask it.
MR. RAM:  Okay.
Q
So did you understand that what we will call a
narrowing exercise from 153 to 54 to now the 24 we see in
the exhibit, were those accounts narrowed down to fit the
government's narrative of one conspiracy in this case?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This
misquotes the witness's testimony and misstates the
document.
THE COURT:  Before you do that, I think you ought
to ask some preliminary questions.  I mean, it is up to
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you to do whatever you want, but you ought to at least
start out with what her instruction was.
MR. RAM:  Thank you, your Honor.  Very helpful.
Q
Let me take a few steps back.  So your accounting
firm is called -- can you say the full name for me?
A
Stout Risius Ross.
Q
Is it okay if I refer to that as Stout?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, Stout provides a broad range of services for
the Department of Justice; is that right?
A
We provide a variety of services, yes.
Q
And you work on investigations all over the
country?
A
They can be around the country, yeah.
Q
And is it true that Stout performed work on
suspected fraudulent loans in Southern California, even
loans completely unrelated to this case?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.  And did you and your firm -- sorry.  So do
any of those other cases involve the use of synthetic
identities?
A
I don't have -- I don't know.
Q
I am only referring to cases you worked on?
A
Yeah.  I mean I don't have knowledge of any -- I am
not involved directly in any matters where I would know
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that -- know if that is the case.
Q
Okay.
A
I have no information to share to answer that.
Q
Understood.  Understood.  So let's bring it back to
your chart which we saw at Government Exhibit 115.  Does
your chart account for potentially overlapping synthetic
identities from this case and let's say another case in
Southern California?
MR. FENTON:  Objection.  This is a confusing
question. 
THE COURT:  Well, she said she doesn't know about
the details of any other investigation, and so the
objection is sustained.
MR. RAM:  Sure.  Let me try it this way.
Q
So you do an analysis in this case of flow of
funds, right, so how money moved from different people
and entities; right?
A
Correct.
Q
Did you do that analysis for other bank accounts
and loans in Southern California?
A
I have not performed any -- like the testimony I
gave yesterday related to following the funds and showing
that the PPP funds were used for a specific purpose.  I
have not conducted that exercise for any other case.
Q
Okay.  And I am not referring to the summary chart,
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just more generally, have you looked at bank accounts and
loans for other alleged fraud cases in Southern
California that have nothing to do with this one?
MR. FENTON:  Objection.  Asked and answered.
THE COURT:  Sustained.
MR. RAM:  Okay.
Q
Now, let's go back.  We are on Government Exhibit
115, and we are talking about the information you relied
on in putting this chart together.  Is it fair to say you
have exchanged several drafts with the government before
you arrived at this end product which contains 24
different bank accounts?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.  Would it surprise you if I told you you
exchanged 12 different drafts with Mr. Fenton?
A
That sounds reasonable.
Q
Okay.  And in each of those drafts, the government
and you discussed making certain changes to this chart;
is that right?
A
Sometimes one chart might change and, you know, all
the other charts would stay the same.  So if we are
talking about just this chart, I mean, I just don't know
in all the 12 instances that there were discussions of
changes to this chart.
Q
Sure.  Let me just -- one step back.  So there is
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changes being made.  So every time you exchange a draft
by definition something is changing in that draft; right?
A
Potentially, yes.
Q
So, in other words, it wouldn't be one of the 12
drafts if you just sent the same document again,
identical document; right?
A
Yes.
Q
And you have been working with Mr. Fenton since
December of 2020 in connection with this case in
preparing your work product here?
A
Yes.
Q
That is approximately seven months?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.  And I may have asked this, and I apologize
if I did, but did you independently review any discovery
in this case other than the items that you specifically
identified at the outset of your testimony?
A
No.
Q
Now, let's take a closer look at your chart.  If we
can pull up slides -- pages 3 and 4.  We can start with
page 3.
THE CLERK:  Are these only for the witness?
MR. RAM:  For everyone.  I apologize.
Government's Exhibit 115, page 3 to start.  This is in
evidence as Government's Exhibit 115.
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Q
Okay.  Did you have access to a database provided
by the government to PPP loan applications submitted in
Southern California?
A
I did not.
Q
Okay.  Let's take a look at slides -- actually,
while we are here, did you see any loan or any loan in
this case, PPP or EIDL, that had my client Richard
Ayvazian's name on it?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  That is a
vague question.
THE COURT:  Sustained.
MR. RAM:  Okay.  I will try it a different way.
Q
So you reviewed some actual loan applications in
connection with your work here; isn't that right?
A
Yes.  I reviewed the 27 that are on this exhibit.
Q
Okay.  Let's focus on those 27 on this exhibit.  Do
any of those 27 contain or refer to my client Richard
Ayvazian?
A
The applicant is listed on this chart in the second
column for each of the loans.  Out of this first page, I
don't see Richard's name listed.
Q
Okay.  And for the record, I am highlighting the
third column on page 3 of Exhibit 115 titled individual
applicant.  And the question is do you see Richard
Ayvazian's name on any of those entries 1 through 13?
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I do not.
Q
Okay.  And you understand that means he was not the
individual applicant for any of these 13 loans; is that
right?
A
That's correct.
Q
Okay.  Let's look at the next page, please.  Page
4.  Same questions for the loans identified in rows 14
through 27, is Richard Ayvazian the individual applicant
for any of those loans?
A
He is not.
Q
Okay.  Now, let's look at slide 7 of this exhibit.
And I believe you testified yesterday that this is an
example of your analysis of PPP funds moving from
different entities and accounts; is that right?
A
Yes.  EIDL and PPP funds.
Q
Thank you.  Now, is it fair to say your analysis
did not account for the reason or explanation for any of
these transfers on this page; is that right?
A
That's correct.
Q
Okay.  And on this page, to be clear, we are on
page 7 of Exhibit 115, the arrows point to Encore Escrow,
the family residence of Richard and Marietta Terabelian;
is that right?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, there is a lot of numbers on this page, and we
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don't have to go item by item, but is it fair to say that
only a portion of the PPP funds detailed in these
accounts on the left hand side of this page end up in the
escrow account?
A
That's correct.  639,807 end up in the escrow.
Q
Okay.  And you note here that the purchase price
was 3.25 million?
A
Correct.
Q
Are you aware that the escrow was approximately
1.2 million, meaning like the down payment, you know,
whatever lingo you use?
A
Right.  Yes.  That would be the sum of the three,
the four black numbers.  The 110, the 93, the 565 and the
500.  So, yes, that is the down payment.
Q
So, in other words, the PPP funds based on your
analysis used for purposes of the escrow are only roughly
half of the total down payment; is that right?
A
That may be roughly half.  Yes.
Q
Okay.
A
We will go with that.
Q
Just so it is clear for the record that my math is
bad.  So roughly 639,807 which you highlighted as the PPP
amount divided by the total amount of the down payment
which you are saying is roughly 1.2 million.  That is
roughly half; yes?
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Yes.
Q
Now, is it fair to say you didn't review any
evidence suggesting that PPP funds were being used or are
being used to pay the monthly mortgage payments on this
property; right?
A
That was not something I was asked to look at.
Q
So the answer is no, you didn't do that?
A
That's correct.
Q
Or, independently, are you aware of any evidence
suggesting that PPP was used?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  She just
answered that question.
THE COURT:  Sustained.
MR. RAM:  Okay.
Q
Let's take a look at slide 10.  I believe yesterday
you testified that this summary was a little different
than the other summary pages because the funds sat in
this account longer.  It wasn't transferred out
immediately or within a short period of time; is that
right?
A
Yes, that's correct.
Q
So we are looking at page 10 of Exhibit 115.  Just
to confirm that point, the PPP loan proceeds come into
the Zhadko chase account ending in 5268 around
August 25th, 2020; is that right?
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Yes.
Q
Okay.  And similar question for the EIDL loan.
That comes into the same account for Zhadko on
August 12th, 2020; is that right?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.  And the money, approximately four months
later, is transferred to another Zhadko Chase account; is
that right?  
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.  And is it fair to say that you didn't look
into what was the basis for this transfer or why it was
held in the account longer than a short period of time?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  This is a
confusing and vague question.
MR. RAM:  I can rephrase it, your Honor.
MR. FENTON:  How could Ms. Robinson testify to the
purpose of the transfer?
THE COURT:  Let me hear your objection.  What
objection are you making?  
MR. FENTON:  Mr. Ram is asking if the witness
understands why the money remained in the account.  There
is no way that she could speak to that.
THE COURT:  I mean, I am allowing the
cross-examination to deal with her accuracy,
completeness, bias, anything you want to question her
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about.  But it does seem that unless you want to probe
further, you can, that her testimony is she was given
some things from the government documents to look at, she
looked at -- she used those documents and didn't make any
conclusions; is that correct?
THE WITNESS:  Yes.  I made no conclusions.
THE COURT:  I mean she is not offering an opinion
about anything more than these are the records that I was
shown.  This is where bank records, according to her
testimony which can be accepted or rejected, demonstrated
where the funds moved.
You are asking her questions about what else
she investigated.  Maybe she did, but she said she
hasn't.  If you want to probe on that, and you believe
that she has done more than she says she did, you can go
ahead.
MR. RAM:  No, your Honor.  I can phrase it from a
biased standpoint as well.  We can run that route, and I
will lay lay a foundation for it.
Q
You are familiar with the concept of forensic
accounting, Ms. Robinson?
A
Yes.
Q
What is that?  Tell the jury.
A
I think it is generally described as applying
specialized knowledge in the field of accounting to
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analyze financial transactions.
Q
Okay.  And analyze them for what purpose or
purposes generally?
A
Could be all kinds of purposes.  I mean, it could
be for providing expert testimony.  It could be
providing, you know, reconstructing financial records for
some purpose.  You know, analyzing -- I mean, the list is
sort of pretty extensive.
Q
Sure.  I'm sorry.  Go ahead.
So is it fair to say you did not conduct a
forensic analyze of the Zhadko, either of the Chase
accounts here, to see if there is evidence that, for
example, there was a cash crunch for an individual in
December that would have required the transfer of these
funds.  You didn't do that; right?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  Lacks
foundation.
THE COURT:  Objection sustained.
Q    BY MR. RAM:  Did the government ask you to conduct 
an analysis of the -- a forensic analysis of these 
accounts to determine who or why these proceeds moved in 
December of 2020?  That is a yes-or-no question. 
A
No.
Q
The government did not ask you to do that; is that
correct?
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A
Not to -- the government did not ask me.  I think
you are going at intent.  I was not asked to look at the
intent of a transaction.
Q
Okay.  But you are aware as an accountant that you
could conduct an analysis of this very account, 6822, for
evidence of why a transfer was made and who made it;
true?
A
That would require drawing a conclusion or offering
an opinion.  I wasn't asked to do that here.
Q
Correct.  The government did not ask to you do that
specifically; right?
A
That's correct.
Q
Okay.  Now, let's talk about the -- we can take the
exhibit down.  Let's talk about some of the limitations
on the bank statements you reviewed, and I think you just
said it for us, but it is fair to say that the chart does
not speak to what anyone knew or understood about any
given transfer?  Is that an accurate statement?
A
That's correct.
Q
Okay.  And so beyond the initial funding of an
account with the PPP loan; right?  So someone gets a
transfer from someone else, is it fair to say there is
nothing in the bank statement that that person would
receive or that you reviewed that would suggest that the
funds were from a PPP or EIDL loan on the face of the
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bank statement?
A
So you are saying the funds come into the receiving
account.  It says on the bank statement, you know, SBA or
EIDL or PPP.  So it does say that on the first --
Q
On the first one; right?
A
-- first account.
Q
In other words, the entity receiving a PPP or EIDL,
that entity may know that that is from the SBA or it is a
PPP loan; right?  But my question is, on these transfers,
these next lines in the chart that lead to something,
none of those other transactions on the bank statement
would reflect that that is a PPP or EIDL loan; correct?
A
Yes.  I don't think I saw any instances where that
was indicated.
Q
Okay.  And typically when you make a bank transfer,
it doesn't state what the underlying funds came from;
right?
A
Depends on if someone writes something in the memo
of a check or in the memo of a wire, that could be the
case.
Q
But you didn't see that in this case; correct?
A
I did not.  I saw references to escrow.
Q
Okay.  But I didn't -- my question is specifically
on PPP or EIDL loans, did you see any reference in
subsequent transfers referencing PPP or EIDL loan
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proceeds?
A
I did not.
Q
Okay.
Q
We talked a little earlier about your accounting
firm and the work it does for the Department of Justice;
right?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.  You are the managing director at Stout?
A
I am.
Q
And as part of your responsibilities as managing
director, do you have responsibility for developing and
maintaining business for your firm?
A
Yes.
Q
And DOJ is a very big client for you; is that
correct?
A
Yes.  It is a big client for our practice.
Q
And you personally; right?
A
Yes.
Q
So, for example, your firm was paid $6 million in
the last two years on the matters you worked on with DOJ;
isn't that true?
A
Yes.
Q
And you testified yesterday that 50 percent or half
of your time is spent working on DOJ matters; true?  
A
Yes, I did.
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Q
And DOJ paid you approximately $350,000 specific to
your, basically, the charts you prepared in this case;
right?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  That is
misquoting the facts.
MR. RAM:  It is a question.
THE COURT:  It is a question.  The objection is
overruled.  She can answer the question.
THE WITNESS:  I am not paid directly by the
Department of Justice for any of the work I performed.
My firm is compensated for the work that I perform.
Q    BY MR. RAM:  Okay.  And you bill your work at a rate 
of $395 an hour; is that right? 
A
Yes.
Q
So all things equal, you would want to keep the DOJ
a happy client, fair to say?
A
I want to keep all of my clients happy.
MR. RAM:  No further questions, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Okay.
MR. RAM:  From this defendant.
 
CROSS-EXAMINATION  
BY MR. LITTRELL: 
Q
Good morning, Ms. Robinson.
A
Good morning.
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Q
My name is John Littrell, I represent Mary
Terabelian the defendant at the end of the table there. I
am going to try to plug in something here.
Can everybody see that on the screen?  Now,
Ms. Robinson, this is Exhibit 115; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And that is the chart that you prepared of the bank
accounts that you actually reviewed; right?
A
Yes.
Q
And Ms. Terabelian's name appears on this chart in
one place; is that correct?  Actually I am referring to
just this first page.  Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
And that is at column 6; correct?
A
Row 6.  Yes.
MR. LITTRELL:  Can everybody hear me okay?  I will
speak up.
Q
And Ms. Terabelian is different from some of the
other defendants in that there is no corporate entity
attached to her name; right?
A
Yes, it is a personal account.
Q
But there is a lot of corporate accounts on this
chart also; right?
A
There is some corporate, some personal.  It is a
mix.
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Q
Now, turning your attention to page 2 of Exhibit
115.  You testified yesterday about Mod Interiors.  Do
you recall that?
A
Yes.
Q
And that was a bank account that you reviewed;
correct?
A
Yes.
Q
In fact, you reviewed all of the bank accounts on
this chart?
A
Correct.
Q
You reviewed them thoroughly?
A
Yes.
Q
And this chart indicates thata Nazar Terabelian was
the signer on that account; correct?
A
Correct.
Q
Yesterday, I believe you made a mistake and you may
have said that Mary Terabelian was the signer on this
account; is that true?
A
That was my testimony?  Or was it on a chart?
Q
Why don't I just ask you to clarify now.  The
signer on this account for Mod Interiors is not Mary
Terabelian; correct?  
A
Yes, that's correct.
Q
It is Nazar Terabelian?
A
Yes.
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Q
Turning your attention to the seventh slide if I
can get there.  Can everyone see that?
Ms. Terabelian appears right at the middle of
the slide.  Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
And, again, her name appears all by itself with no
corporate entity attached.  Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
And she is actually in the third column from the
left; right?
A
Yes.
Q
Which means that she did not -- there is no
evidence that you reviewed that Ms. Terabelian received
any funds from a bank; right?  I'm sorry.  From a lender?
A
She did not directly receive funds from a lender.
Q
So according to this chart, these entities on the
second column here, see if I can draw on this.  These
entities in the second column here applied for the PPP
loans; right?
A
They received the PPP funds and EIDL funds.
Q
Right.  But Ms. Terabelian didn't directly receive
any PPP funds or EIDL funds according to your research;
correct?
A
Correct.  The funds to her account came through
other entities.
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Q
Another unusual thing here.  If you see most of the
transactions on this page, you concluded that the entire
amount of the transaction was PPP loan proceeds; is that
correct?
A
Yes.
Q
But this one transaction here, the sole transaction
for Ms. Terabelian looks like only about half of that
money you concluded was PPP loan funds; correct?
A
Yes.  On Marietta Terabelian's account had a
negative balance before the funds start to come in on it
on June 17th and June 19th.  So she receives several
deposits.  I am showing you just two of the deposits.
And, then, on June 22 nd just a few days
later, she uses those funds.  She sends out a total of
565,000, and I am showing that 249,807 of that is derived
from the transfer she received from Redline Auto
Collision and G&A Diamonds.
Q
Now, you weren't asked to testify about your
opinion about who controls these accounts; right?  
A
I was asked to review the signature cards, identify
who was the signatory.
Q
Right.  But you just said Ms. Terabelian sent money
to Encore Escrow.  Is that what you just said?
A
Her account sent money to Encore Escrow.
Q
Right.  That is not the same as saying she sent it;
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isn't that correct?  
A
The signatory is the one who, you know, authorizes
transactions on an account.
Q
Let's take a look at Ms. Terabelian's account.
Now, you reviewed -- it is at Exhibit 89.  So this is the
account we are talking about; right?
A
Yes.
Q
It is a 97-page document; right?  Is that correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And you reviewed all 97 pages?
A
Yes.
Q
In fact, you recall today there was a negative
account balance at some point in June?
A
Correct.
Q
So you followed the transactions within this
account pretty closely?
A
I followed transactions on all 24 accounts very
closely.
Q
That is a big job, though, to memorize all of that.
In this case, again, it is a personal account for
Ms. Terabelian, and you mentioned the signature card.  I
am going to direct your attention to page 1 of this
account.  That is the signature card that you are talking
about; right?
A
Yes.
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Q
And that reflects that Ms. Terabelian showed up to
the bank and applied for an account in her own name on or
about January 16, 2018; is that right?
A
I don't have --
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  That is
beyond the scope.
THE COURT:  I will allow it.
MR. LITTRELL:  Your Honor, she reviewed every page
of this bank statement.  I need to go through this.
THE COURT:  You are just asking her about the
things that she looked at and what dates and amounts and
so forth is on those things; right?
MR. LITTRELL:  Yes.
THE COURT:  You can do that.
Q    BY MR. LITTRELL:  Now, turning your attention again 
in Exhibit 89 to page 23 of that.  See if I can get 
there.  Do you see this page? 
A
23.  Yes.
Q
Now, that top line there refers to online banking
transfers.  Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
So this is an account that is available online;
correct?
A
My understanding is that the transfer is made --
yes.  Online.
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Q
Talking about online banking; right?
A
Yes.
Q
And online banking is a process where you set up an
account so you can access it from your computer; right?
A
I mean that sounds like a good characterization of
it.  You can often make transactions in the branch, at an
ATM and online.
Q
I am just asking you this is an account that is
online; right?
A
It is -- I couldn't log into her account.  So I
don't know what rights she has or doesn't have.  I know
what this account shows me the activity.  So this shows
that a transfer occurred.  Someone made an online
transfer to her account.  That is what I see.
Q
And when you have an online account, you access it
with a user name and password; right?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, in this case, one of the transactions that you
focused on, see if I can clear this, were wires that came
into that account on June 19th; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And these are some of the wires that you focused on
in your chart; right?
THE COURT:  Your voice is trailing off.
MR. LITTRELL:  I will try to stay here.
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Q
These are the transactions you focused on, right,
in your chart?  
A
Yes.
Q
And these are the ones that you used to reach your
conclusion about the flow of funds from Ms. Terabelian's
bank account; right?
A
The flow into her account.
Q
That's right.  Now, and those were on June 19th,
2020; right?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, this portion of that bank statement refers to
withdrawals from the account; right?
A
Yes.
Q
And one of the more -- the withdrawals that you
were focused on was this wire out of Ms. Terabelian's
account in the amount of $565,000.  Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
And that was also reflected in your chart; correct?
Q
And that was made three days after the wires that
came in; right?
A
It was.
Q
And those incoming wires on June 19th and the
outgoing wire on June 22nd are the only wires that you
concluded were relevant to your analysis; correct?
A
These are related to her account?
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Q
That's correct?
A
Yes.
Q
New, but you did look at this account generally;
correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And it was not within the scope of your work to
sort of characterize who was using it or what the account
was used for generally; right?
A
Yes.
Q
But just taking a look at this account, you can see
it is used for things like Postmates; right?  Do you see
that?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
And it is used for, at the gas station ; right?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, directing your attention to Government's
Exhibit No. 1P.  Now, this is the signature card for
another bank account; correct?
A
Yes.  For Runyan Tax Service, account ending 9700
at Bank of America.
Q
Who is the signer for that account?
A
Victoria Kauichko.
Q
And you reviewed the signature card for that
account as well; correct?
A
Yes.
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Q
And this is the signature card, and this is
Victoria Kauichko's signature; correct?
A
As represented on this document.
Q
Fair enough.  And it is sort of vertical and tilted
to the right; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
Showing you what has been marked and admitted as
Government's Exhibit 1F.  This is another account that
you reviewed; correct?
A
Yes.  This is Top Quality Contracting, Wells Fargo
account.
Q
And this is essentially the equivalent of a
signature card for that account; right?
A
Yes.
Q
And this account is in the name of Ulia Zhadko;
correct?  
A
Yes.
Q
And this is the signature of Ulia Zhadko; correct?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  Lacks
foundation.
THE COURT:  Well, I mean, the objection is
sustained.  If you are asking that the signature of
Zhadko appears there, that would be permissible.  Is that
what you are asking?
MR. LITTRELL:  That is all I am asking.
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THE COURT:  All right.  You may answer.
THE WITNESS:  This is the signature provided on
the -- on the account opening document for Iuliia Zhadko.
MR. LITTRELL:  Very well.  No further questions.
 
CROSS-EXAMINATION  
BY MR. JOHNSON: 
Q
Good morning, Ms. Robinson.
A
Good morning.
Q
I represent Vahe Dadyan here.  I would like to ask
you about Exhibit 115, and that is the summary chart that
you created.  What we are going to do is we are going to
focus on page 1 of that chart related to Voyage Limo.
Do you see that in front of you?
A
Yes.
Q
And at line 9, that is Voyage Limo?
A
Yes.
Q
And what you said on cross-examination earlier is
that you looked at the accounts related to Voyage Limo
and that, if I am reading this correctly, there is an
account at Wells Fargo; correct?  And you reviewed that
account?  
A
Yes.
Q
And that account was opened in August of 2019;
correct?
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A
Yes.
Q
Were you able to look at some of the bank records
available for that company since August of '19?
A
The period summarized here says March, 2020.
Q
But in order to create the chart, you did notice
that you -- this account was opened in 2019; correct?
A
Correct.
Q
And is it -- is it fair to state when you looked at
the documents there was at least some transactions since
2019, August of 2019, in the -- in that account; correct?
A
I am not -- I can't say that I saw activity before
March.  This summary here shows that I reviewed the
period March 2nd, 2020, through November.  And consistent
with, you know, what I was asked to do which was to look
at when the funds from the loan were received, I did not
need to be looking at activity in the earlier time
period.
Q
I understand.  And so the government didn't ask you
to look at earlier periods?
A
Correct.
Q
But you did look at the period from March of 2020
and studied and reviewed those bank records; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
What I would like do is I will go through the chart
and then I will come back to the actual bank records
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because it will be easier?
A
Okay.
Q
So I will go to, now, page 4, and that is at
line 26.  Now, Voyage Limo, there was one single loan
taken out by Vahe Dadyan; isn't that correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And you went back and you looked at that single
loan, and the bank records indicated Vahe Dadyan's name;
correct?
A
Yes.
Q
The company Voyage Limo; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And that the Celtic loan application, that single
loan, matched the bank records; correct?
A
Correct.
Q
Now, I would like to look at -- and that was the
only loan in Voyage Limo with Vahe Dadyan's name;
correct?
A
It is the only loan I looked at for preparation of
my testimony.  I don't -- I don't know if there could be
some other loan application or loan out there, but this
is the one that I know about.
Q
So you only know about this single loan?
A
Correct.
Q
So I would like to turn to page 5 of the Exhibit
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115, and what I would like to focus on is this area right
here.  Do you see that?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, what that area represents is that the loan
funds were -- came from Celtic Bank in the amount of
$157,500 and went into the bank account of Voyage Limo;
correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And that was easy to follow?
A
Yes.
Q
And then there was, in Voyage Limo, there was a --
there was $155,000 that was later transferred out?
A
Yes.
Q
And what we have here is that these funds were
deposited May 20th, 2020, and they remained in
Mr. Dadyan's account, the Voyage Limo account for 44
days; isn't that correct?
A
That sounds about right.  Yes.
Q
From May 20th to July 3rd; correct?
A
Uh-huh.
Q
And when we looked at some of the other loans,
there was an immediate or very quick transfer of PPP
funds outside of -- transferred outside of the account;
isn't that correct?
A
In several instances those transfers occurred
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within days, but I think we went over this morning, there
are other instances where funds sat in an account.
Q
But in several instances the funds moved quickly
out of that account?
A
Agreed.
Q
And the during those 44 days, were you able to
determine whether -- now, there was no conversion into
cash; right?
A
No.  It just it sat in the account.
Q
It sat in the account.  So there was no movement
outside of the account.  It just sat in that account?
A
There were a handful of transactions in this
account, additional, but they were smaller amounts.
Q
Okay.  So at that point, then, on July 3rd, then it
was transferred into Runyan Tax; correct?
A
Correct.
Q
And you stated earlier that you weren't asked to
look at the intent of any of the transactions; correct?
A
That's correct.
Q
That means you are not asked to determine whether
the -- anybody, Mr. Dadyan, knew, knowingly transferred
these funds out with the intent to defraud anybody;
correct?
A
I have no position on that.  You know, I don't know
anything about intent.
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Q
But you do render that opinion in other cases for
the Department of Justice; isn't that correct?
A
I could.
Q
You could.  And you have done so in the past with
the Department of Justice; correct?
A
Well, this is the first time I have testified for
the Department of Justice.
Q
My question is that you have rendered an opinion as
to whether the funds would have been maybe used for money
laundering in the past for the Department of Justice?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  Asked and
answered.
THE COURT:  You can answer.
THE WITNESS:  I personally have not testified for
the government.  Today is my first time testifying for
them.
MR. JOHNSON:  I'm sorry.
Q
I am not asking whether you have testified.  I am
simply asking whether you rendered an opinion or have
been hired or consulted by the Department of Justice to
render an opinion regarding whether funds would have been
intentionally moved for the purpose of money laundering.
A
Can we unpack that a little bit.  So there is
consulted, rendered.  Are we talking about written
reports?  Can you break that down for me?
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Q
Have you ever consulted with the Department of
Justice to render an opinion just to say, hey, this is
money laundering, this is not?
A
You know --
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  It is a
confusing question, and the witness has asked for
clarification.
THE COURT:  Well, I mean if you don't understand
the question, you could always ask to rephrase.  Do you
want it rephrased?  Rephrase the question.
Q    BY MR. JOHNSON:  Have you ever looked at a document 
that is given to you by the Department of Justice and -- 
let me rephrase it and probably make it very clear 
hopefully. 
Has the Department of Justice ever given you a
document and said, Ms. Robinson, does this look like
money laundering to you?
A
I just -- I don't think my work has been like posed
in that manner.  I guess.
Q
You are a forensic accountant?
A
Yes.
Q
And what does a forensic accountant do?
A
A forensic accountant can do a variety of things in
the area of consulting on accounting, but, as I said
earlier, it is generally described as applying a
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specialized knowledge to sort of analyze financial
transactions.
Q
So has the Department of Justice ever asked you to
analyze financial transactions to determine whether you
see money laundering?
A
I would say, yes, I have been asked to look at
those.
Q
Thank you.  And, in this particular case, you were
not asked for that opinion?
A
Correct.  I am not offering an opinion.
Q
I would like to now look at exhibit -- I am going
to go back to the bank records that you reviewed in March
of 2020.  Well, you didn't review them in March of 2020.
They are from March of 2020.  Let me erase that.
So what I want to do is go through this.
These are the records that you did, in fact, review;
correct?  Do you recognize that?
A
Yes.  This page of the statement doesn't give you
the account number and account names so maybe just if you
move up a page or two, it would orient.
Q
This is the first page of the document.  Do you
recognize that?
A
Yes.
Q
And that is what we are talking about in terms of
the opening of the bank; correct?
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A
Yes.
Q
It says that there is a Voyage Limo?
A
Yes.  I see that.
Q
Okay.  And there we go.  We have Voyage Limo, and
then that is Vahe Dadyan.  That is his name, and we have
the date of the opening is up in the top right hand
corner.  It is 8/20/2019?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, you said that you didn't review the earlier
periods from September, but you did review March?
A
Yes.
Q
I would like to go to a transaction history related
in March, and that is at page 39.  Okay.  So this is part
of the transaction history.  It is the beginning of 3/2,
March 2nd.
So these are some of the records that you
reviewed; correct.
A
Yes.
Q
And PPP loans were intended for legitimate
businesses; correct?
A
I believe that to be true.
Q
And you also believe it to be true that you, as you
are examining these records, you would look for
legitimate business transactions; correct?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.
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THE COURT:  Sustained.
MR. FENTON:  Beyond the scope.
THE COURT:  Sustained.  It is beyond the scope.
MR. JOHNSON:  Based upon these records here --
and, your Honor, I would like to explore the legitimate
business transactions that are in this March, 2020, bank
account.
THE COURT:  Well, you say legitimate.  I don't
know what that means.  Do you know legitimate?  Do you
know?
THE WITNESS:  Do you want to give me a working
definition of legitimate?
THE COURT:  I mean, that is your word, I don't
know what it means in terms of what this witness is
testifying about.
I mean, she is -- she is not -- she said it
many times.  She is not making any, giving any opinion
about what is legitimate, not legitimate.  She is just
tracing funds from one account to another and preparing
it in a chart.  So you will have to clarify the question.
MR. JOHNSON:  Understand.  I will strike
legitimate.  I will just talk about the transactions.
All right.
Q
When you are looking there at the transactions, I
will look at 3/3.  And there it is, a transaction for
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$2,650.81.  Did the government give you documents to show
you what that might be for?
A
This document speaks on its face as to what that is
for.  It shows it is a deposit from Uber.
Q
And Voyage Limo is, in fact, a -- do you know what
Voyage Limo actually does?
A
I think it is on its loan application, it indicates
it is a transportation company or somewhere along those
lines.
Q
And then the next line, there is a Capital Premium
Insurance for Voyage Limo?
A
Yes.
Q
And the next line there is auto financing for
Voyage Limo; correct?  
A
For $1,040, payment to Audi Financial?
Q
Yes.
A
Yes.
Q
Then the next line, there is a check for $2.076?
A
Yes.
Q
Did the government provide you bank records related
to what that check might be?
A
I should have those records.
Q
Why don't I --
MR. JOHNSON:  Your Honor, I am offering Defense
Exhibit 801.  The government has a copy of the records
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and --
THE COURT:  What is it just generally?
MR. JOHNSON:  It is the actual checks from the
bank records.
THE COURT:  Okay.  Then it is received. 
MR. JOHNSON:  May I approach the witness?
THE COURT:  What time is it.
THE CLERK:  It is 10:30, your Honor.
THE COURT:  How much longer do you have?
MR. JOHNSON:  I am happy to take a break now.
THE COURT:  Okay.  Let's take the morning break,
10 or 12 minutes, and then get back at it.  Thank you.
(Recess from 10:29 to 10:42 a.m.) 
(The following proceedings were held in the 
presence of the jury:) 
THE COURT:  Okay.
Q    BY MR. JOHNSON:  Good morning, again, Ms. Robinson.   
May I approach the witness to present Defense
Exhibit 801 that the court just admitted into evidence.
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MR. JOHNSON:  Ms. Robinson, I handed you Defense 
Exhibit 801.  And that is -- isn't it correct that that 
is a -- those are Voyage Limo checks with a bank account 
number that corresponds to the bank account that you have 
been examining? 
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A
Yes.  The checks indicate it is the account ending
7900.
Q
And the entire packet represents checks that the
first one is 9/18/2019, but we will move straight to the
March one that we are referring to.
A
Okay.
Q
Now, it is correct that, here, on 3/6, if we looked
at the check number here we would be able to correspond,
that would correspond with the checks that are from the
account; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
So let's move to that check number which is 1013,
and that is on page 31 of Exhibit 801?
A
Yes.
Q
And before you on the display is the -- a copy of
what you see in front of you; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
The check number is 1013?
A
Yes.
Q
It is written to a -- difficult to pronounce but a
town car, is that the end?
A
Yes.
Q
For $2,076.  And the memo says driver?
A
I see all that.
Q
So this would be a Voyage Limo check written to a
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driver?
A
Yes.
Q
Now, I would like to go down to some of the other
expenses.  If we go down a little further on 3/13, there
are -- there is a business-to-business transaction here
on 3/13.  If you can highlight that for me.  That says
Franchise Tax Board payment, doesn't that?
A
Yes, it does.
Q
And that would be for $780?
A
Correct.
Q
Can you describe for a jury what a Franchise Tax
Board is?
A
I think it is an entity specific to California, but
businesses pay taxes to that entity.  I have seen it, you
know, before.
Q
And, forgive me, I know you are from Baltimore.  I
apologize.  So businesses -- that would make sense that
it would be a tax payment; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And now we move to the next line is -- it is a
check for 1053 and it is for $500.  Do you recognize
that?
A
Yes, I see that.
Q
And if we wanted to find out what that check is
for, we would go then to our document 801 and look at the
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checks; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
And if we looked at that, we have up in the right
hand corner 1053; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
It is a check for $500, and it is a check that is
the same memo.  It says driver; correct?
A
Yes. 
Q
So if the jury wanted to take the bank records and
connect them to Document 801, they would be able to see
the -- if there was a blank area, they didn't know what
the check was for, they would be able to see the actual
check in 801; isn't that correct?
A
Yes.
Q
So with that, I am not going to go through every
check, but I do want to highlight on 3/23, there was a US
Bank loan payment; correct?  And there is a Capital
Premium Insurance payment down at 3/31.
A
Yes.  I see that.
Q
And this is just for March of 2020; correct?
A
Yes.
Q
You didn't look at the rest of the documents, the
bank records from September?
A
I didn't look at the earlier activity.
Q
The earlier activity, but, in this exhibit, and
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that is Exhibit 1M, all of the bank records are in there
for anyone to look at?
A
Yes.
Q
Okay.
MR. JOHNSON:  I have no further questions.
THE COURT:  All right.  Any further?  Is it
redirect?  Is that what you are getting at.
MR. FENTON:  Yes, your Honor, but the government
has no questions.
THE COURT:  No questions.  All right.
Thank you, ma'am.  You are excused.
And now we call the next witness.
MR. PAETTY:  Your Honor, the United States calls
Artur Hakopyan.
THE CLERK:  Please step forward.
(The witness was sworn.) 
THE CLERK:  Please be seated.  Please state your
name and spell it for the record.
THE WITNESS:  My name is Artur Hakopyan.
A-R-T-U-R, H-A-K-O-P-Y-A-N.
 
DIRECT EXAMINATION  
BY MR. PAETTY: 
Q
Good morning, Mr. Hakopyan.
A
Good morning.
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Q
What do you do for a living?
A
I am a self-employed freelance interpreter, slash,
translator.
Q
How many years have you been working professionally
as a translator and interpreter?
A
Over 25 years.
Q
What languages do you translate?
A
I work between English, Armenian and Russian
languages.
Q
Can you please describe your educational
background?
A
Yes.  I have two diplomas.  One is diploma of
interpreter.  
THE COURT:  Can you speak a little more loudly.  
THE WITNESS:  So I have two graduate degrees.  One
is diploma of interpreter or translator and the other one
is legal.  I have my JD and LLM.
Q    BY MR. PAETTY:  So taking you to the translator 
degree, where was that from? 
A
It was from Yerevan State University in Armenia.
Q
And how long was that program?
A
Three years.
Q
What was some of the course work in that program?
A
Language, literature were the main two courses,
and, then, of course, the technique of doing translation
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or verbal interpretation including simultaneous.
THE COURT:  Including what?
THE WITNESS:  Including simultaneous interpreting.
Q    BY MR. PAETTY:  And what is simultaneous 
interpreting? 
A
Well, if you have seen like in the United Nations
so when I talk along with the speaker so I am not waiting
for someone to finish his or her word and then translate
it into the target language, I am basically talking
alongside with the speaker.  That is called simultaneous
interpreting which is done verbally, of course.
Q
What is your level of proficiency with the Armenian
language?
A
I am a native speaker.  I was born and grew up in
Armenia.
Q
Where were you born?
A
The city of Yerevan.  That is the capital of
Armenia.
Q
How long did you live in Armenia?
A
Up until 1999.
Q
How did you learn English?
A
Well, it started in my school, elementary school.
I was born in a country that was called Soviet Union back
then.  Armenia was a part of it.  And according to the
system of education, foreign languages started to be
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taught in schools in grade 4.  So that is, from 4 to 10,
I started English, and then I also took English in my
university years.
Q
And you live in the United States now?
A
Yes.  Since 1999.
Q
You described yourself as a translator and
interpreter of the Armenian language.  What does it mean
to be a translator?
A
Well, translator and interpreter are basically two
terms that -- they are conditional terms to describe, to
describe two sides of the same coin.  When I translate in
writing, that is in my line of work is called
translation.  When I translate from one language into
another verbally, that is called interpreting.  So these
are conditional denominations.
Q
And approximately how many times have you worked as
a professional interpreter from Armenian into English?
A
Hundreds if not thousands.
Q
Who are some of the clients you have worked for?
A
Well, I have both government agencies like United
States Department of State is my biggest government
client, but most of them are just private clientele, you
know, nonprofits or just private organizations,
corporations.  I translated for schools, hospitals,
private companies.
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Q
Approximately how many times have you worked as a
professional translator from Armenian into English?
A
Again, thousands.  I have translated thousand
times.
Q
Who are some of those clients?
A
Again, government agencies and private, you know,
banks, corporations, anyone who needs a document as short
as one page or as long as hundreds of pages to be
translated from one language into another can hire me and
that is what do.
Q
Approximately how many translations or rrecordings
in the Armenian language have you done?
A
Hundreds.
Q
Did you translate two recordings in connection with
this case?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
What languages are heard on those rrecordings?
A
So the audio tape, recording, it has English and
Armenian.
Q
Did you also transcribe those recordings?
A
Yes.
Q
And what does it mean to transcribe a recording?
A
Well, so in this particular assignment, I am given
an audio recording, so I first put on the paper verbatim
everything that is on the recording in the language it is
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spoken.  So if part of the sentence is in English,
another part in Armenian, that is how I put it on the
paper in one column.  And then in the other column, I
translate the Armenian parts into English.
Q
And what equipment do you use to do that?
A
My computer, my notebook, and I use a pair of good
headphones.
Q
So turning your attention now to Government's
Exhibit 50A, do you recognize that?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
How do you recognize it?
A
I put my initials and the date on this disk.
Q
What is it?
A
It is a disk that contains an audio recording.
Q
Did you listen to the audio recording on the disk?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
And did you translate the call -- did you translate
the recording on Government's Exhibit 58?
A
Yes, I did.  I first transcribed it, and then I
translated it.
Q
Is Exhibit 50A a true and accurate copy of the
recording that you translated with certain portions
redacted?
A
Yes, it is.
THE CLERK:  Are you admitting that into evidence?
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MR. PAETTY:  Not yet, Mr. Cruz.
Mr. Cruz, can I show on the document camera
a -- have the come camera go just to the witness for the
moment.
THE CLERK:  Okay.
MR. PAETTY:  Thank you.
Q
So, Mr. Hakopyan, I will show you what has been
marked as Government's Exhibit 50B for identification.
Do you recognize this document?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
And what is 50B?
A
It is a document that contains transcription and
translation of that audio recording.
Q
And how do you recognize it?
A
I put my initials and dated it after authenticating
it.
Q
So is this a true and accurate copy of the
translation and transcription that you conducted on
Exhibit 50A?
A
Yes, it is.
MR. PAETTY:  Your Honor, the government moves
Exhibit 50A and 50B into evidence. 
THE COURT:  Received.
Q    BY MR. PAETTY:  Turning your attention now to 
Exhibit 50D as in David.  Do you recognize 50D? 
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A
Yes, I do.
Q
How do you recognize that?
A
Again, I initialed and dated this disk.
Q
And what is the disk?
A
It is a disk that contains audio recording.
Q
Is this the second recording that you reviewed?
A
Yes.
Q
And is Exhibit 50D a true and accurate copy of the
recording that you reviewed transcribed and translated
with certain portions redacted?
A
Yes, it is.
Q
So turning your attention now to Exhibit 50E, do
you recognize that?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
How do you recognize it?
A
I put my initials and I dated it.
Q
And what is it?
A
It is the transcription and translation of that
second disk.
Q
And is this a true and accurate copy of the
recording -- of the translation and transcription of the
recording in 50D?
A
Yes, it is.
Q
In this translation, did you include a translator
note?
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A
Yes.  I have a note in one of those, yes.
Q
In this one?
A
If you show it to me.
A
Yes.  I have.  Uh-huh.  This is the one.
Q
What is a translator note?
A
When there is a word that I am translating that can
have a number of different meanings, and the interpreter
wants to make sure that you include a note when it is
important that, you know, one -- the note is included
when interpreter wants to explain the meaning of the word
that is being translated because, as we know, different
languages have their own peculiarities.  So one word can
have different connotations, but, in this context, I
included the note to explain the meaning of that word
that applies in this case.
Q
Was this the only translator note that you included
in your translations?
A
Yes.  Yes.
Q
And is Exhibit 50E a fair and accurate copy of the
translation and description that you conducted on the
recording in 50D?
A
Yes, it is.
MR. PAETTY:  Your Honor, the government moves
Exhibits 50D and 50E into evidence.
THE COURT:  Received.
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MR. PAETTY:  And, at this time, your Honor, the
government would like to read a stipulation entered by
the parties.
THE COURT:  Okay.  You can do that.
MR. PAETTY:  "The parties stipulate and agree as
follows:  The voice you hear in government's Exhibit 50A
and 50D after the automated greeting is the voice of
Marietta Terabelian.  The Broward County Sheriff's Office
Department of Detention records all outgoing calls from
its jails except calls between the inmate and his or her
counsel.  Marietta Terabelian was advised prior to making
the calls in Government's Exhibit 50A and 50D that her
calls would be recorded."
Your Honor, at this time, the government
requests permission to play Exhibit 50A and 50D alongside
the translations.
THE COURT:  All right.
(Audio played.) 
MR. PAETTY:  No further questions for this
witness, your Honor.
MR. LITTRELL:  Just a few questions, your Honor.
 
CROSS-EXAMINATION  
BY MR. LITTRELL: 
Q
Good morning, Mr. Hakopyan.
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A
Good morning.
Q
Thank you for being here.  You testified that you
have been interpreting from Armenian to English for a
long time.
A
Yes.  And from English into Armenian.  Any
direction.
Q
And one of the things that you said is that
language can have multiple meanings sometimes?
A
Words, yes.
Q
And that nuance matters?
A
Yes.
Q
And that context matters?
A
Yes.
Q
And you are not here to testify about what
Ms. Terabelian meant when she spoke on that call; right?
A
What she meant?
Q
Yes.  Well, the process of interpreting or
translation indirectly involves that and that, you know,
that is why I put my translator's note to describe the
meaning of the word, that particular word "caught," the
meaning that was meant in that context.  So, in a way,
yes.
Q
And the reason you wanted to add that note is
because that word is capable of multiple meanings?
A
Of course.  Just like many other words.
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Q
And you didn't want to create a misleading
impression for the jury about what she meant; right?
A
Yes.  Juror or anyone.  Back then I didn't know it
was going to be in front of jury.
Q
But you wanted to be clear that there was two
different ways to interpret that word; right?
A
Yes.  And I included the note to explain the
meaning in that context.
Q
And what is the word for apprehended in Armenian?
A
For apprehended?
Q
Uh-huh.
A
Well, just like in English, there are you know
formal and informal, so when she used that "caught," that
is like informally saying apprehended or arrested, taken
into custody.  (Armenian word.)  That is the word she
didn't use.  (Armenian word.)  The word, it is the proper
word for apprehended.  Not caught.
Q
And, now, the word -- you also translated
Ms. Terabelian's words to have the word "clean" in it.
Do you recall that?
A
Yes.  Clean the house.
Q
Clean the house.  Now, there are many words in
Armenian for clean; right?
A
Many words?  No.  Meanings.
Q
Many different meanings but, for example, clean is
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an adjective sometimes; right?
A
Yes.
Q
Sometimes it is a verb?
A
Yes.
Q
The word, and I am going to try something that -- I
am going to try to speak some Armenian.  Okay.  So just
bear with me.  The word makur(Phon.), that means clean?
A
That means clean.
Q
The word surt(Phon.), that means clean?
A
I don't recognize a word like that.
Q
The word ambit(Phon.)?
A
Ambit.
Q
That means clean?
A
Ambit is more impeccable or something.
Q
The word ambare(Phon.), ambare.  Blame me.
A
All right.
Q
The word katarion(Phon.), katarion?
A
Katarion, you mean?
Q
Katarion.
A
Well, katarion means perfect.
Q
The word chezabor,(Phon.).  Chekavor(Phon.).
A
Chekavor?
Q
That means clean also.
A
No.  That chekavor means poor.
Q
Okay.  Those are the adjective forms.  We are going
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to try some verbs okay.  The word sowpow(Phon.).
A
Sowpow.  Wipe.
Q
That means wipe, like clean?
A
Wipe.
Q
The word negel(Phon.) can mean clean?
A
I don't recognize that word.
Q
The word that was used in this case was the word
makrel(Phon.); right?
A
Makrel.  Yes.
Q
Makrel also means clean?
A
Verb, as a verb.
Q
In this case, the form that was used was makrel
which means a command?
A
Yes.  You.  You clean, as a verb.
Q
So in order to determine how to translate the word,
you have to consider the context; right?
A
Yes.  You have to know the language and the
context.  Of course.
Q
You have to know when are the words uttered, right
when is the person speaking and why?
A
Yes.
Q
Where the person might be could be relevant?
A
Could be, yes.
Q
And what the person knows could be relevant?
A
What person?  The one that speaks?
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Yes.
A
Yeah.  But I don't know what the person knows.  I
am just hearing that person's voice on the tape.
Q
And you don't know what the person intends when she
is speaking either, do you?
A
No.
MR. LITTRELL:  No further questions
THE COURT:  Anything further?
MR. PAETTY:  No, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Thank you, sir.  You are excused.
Call the next witness.
MR. FENTON:  The government calls Spencer Kim.
THE CLERK:  Please step forward.
(The witness was sworn.) 
THE CLERK:  Please be seated.
Please state and and spell your full name for
the record.
THE WITNESS:  My name is Spencer Kim, last name
KIM.
 
DIRECT EXAMINATION  
BY MR. FENTON: 
Q
Good morning, Special Agent Kim.
Can you tell us where do you work?
A
Yes.  I am a special agent with the FBI currently
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assigned to Los Angeles division.
Q
And how long have you been a special agent with the
FBI?
A
I have been a special agent with the FBI for
approximately two years.
Q
And as a special agent, did you receive training on
how to execute search warrants?
A
Yes.
Q
And during the few years that you have been a
special agent with the FBI, approximately how many search
warrants have you executed?
A
Approximately 10.
Q
Did there come a time where you conducted a search
of an apartment at 6150 Canoga Avenue, Unit 337?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And approximately when was that?
A
It was November 5th, 2020.
Q
What were your duties in connection with the search
of the Canoga Avenue apartment?
A
I was assigned as a team leader.
Q
And can you please describe for the jury what does
it mean to be a team leader when you are executing a
search warrant?
A
Team leader is an agent that assigns different
roles to the participating agents, creates an operation
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plan and oversees the operation.
Q
Now, as team leader, were you physically on the
property the day the search warrant was executed?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And what did you observe when you first entered the
apartment?
A
It was a two-bedroom unit apartment.  The unit
barely had any items.  There was nobody there at the
residence.  Some of the items we saw was letters and
mail, a shredder with shredded paper, gift cards and
membership cards and some few pieces of clothing.
Q
Okay.  Going to show you what has been previously
marked Government Exhibit 54A.  
MR. FENTON:  And, Mr. Cruz, can we just show this
to the witness.
Q
Special Agent Kim, do you recognize this photo?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And do you recognize -- can you tell us what does
this photo depict?
A
It is a photo of a kitchen drawer.
Q
And is this photo a true and accurate depiction of
the items that you saw at Canoga?
A
Yes, sir.
MR. FENTON:  The government would move to admit.
THE COURT:  Received.  
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MR. FENTON:  Permission to publish.
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MR. FENTON:  Special Agent Kim, can you please 
tell us what is the name on that card on the silver dish 
in that drawer? 
A
The name is Manuk Grigoryan.
MR. FENTON:  All right.  Mr. Cruz, I would like to
show another exhibit just to the witness.
Q
Special Agent Kim, we are showing you what has been
previously marked Government's Exhibit 54B.
Do you recognize this photo?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And what does this photo show?
A
It is a photo of post-it notes with handwritten
notes.
Q
And is this photo a true and accurate depiction of
it?
A
Sure.
THE COURT:  I can't hear you.
THE WITNESS:  Sure.
Q    BY MR. FENTON:  I'm sorry, Special Agent Kim.  What 
does this picture show? 
A
It is a photo of a post-it note with handwritten
notes.
Q
And is this photo a true and accurate depiction of
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an item that you saw at Canoga during your search?
A
Yes, sir.
MR. FENTON:  The government moves to admit?
THE COURT:  Received. 
MR. PAETTY:  Permission to publish.
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MR. FENTON:  And, Special Agent Kim, can you just 
read on the left there just the names of the companies 
here on the left? 
A
Yes.  VLA, C&C, CBD, DOBE, Hupp, GAZ, EM, Accel
Q
Third from the bottom, does that say Sabala?
A
Yes.
Q
All right.  Let me show you another exhibit.
MR. FENTON:  Mr. Cruz, I would like to show this
again just to the witness.
Q
Showing you what has been previously marked
Government Exhibit 54D.
Do you recognize this photo?
A
Yes.
Q
And what does this photo show?
A
It is a photo of a checkbook, and it has Leonard
Hupp listed on the checkbook.
Q
Is this photo a true and accurate depiction of what
you found during the search of your Canoga apartment?
A
Yes.
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MR. FENTON:  The government moves to admit, your
Honor.
THE COURT:  Received. 
MR. FENTON:  Permission to publish.
Q
Special Agent Kim, can you just provide a little
more detail in terms of what this picture depicts in
terms of the checks?
A
It is a checkbook listed Leonard Hupp DBA Hupp
Construction listed on it, and it is a list of empty
checkbooks.
Q
So this is actually a checkbook?
A
Yes, sir.
MR. FENTON:  All right.  Mr. Cruz, I would like to
show one more exhibit just to the witness.  
THE CLERK:  Counsel, just for clarification, the
three exhibits were 54A, the second one was 54B as in
boy, and the third one was now, 54?
MR. FENTON:  54D as in delta.
THE CLERK:  Thank you.  Go ahead.
Q    BY MR. FENTON:  Special Agent Kim, I am showing you 
what has been previously marked Exhibit 54F as in fox.   
Do you recognize this photo?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And what does this photo show?
A
It is a photo of an envelope.
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Q
And is this photo a true and accurate depiction of
an item that you found during your search of Canoga?
A
Yes, sir.
MR. FENTON:  The government moves to admit, your
Honor.
THE COURT:  Proceed.  
MR. FENTON:  Permission to publish.
THE COURT:  Yes.
MR. FENTON:  Can we zoom in here on the right.
Q
All right.  Thank you, Special Agent kim.  
MR. FENTON:  No further questions?
THE WITNESS:  Thank you.
THE COURT:  Cross-examination.
 
CROSS-EXAMINATION  
BY MR. KEOUGH: 
Q
Good morning.
A
Good morning, sir.
Q
Thanks for coming in today.  So you were involved
in the execution of the search warrant as you testified
at 6150 Canoga Avenue, Unit 337?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And fair to say that when you executed that search
warrant, you found some stuff?
A
Yes, sir.
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Q
Items that hasn't been removed prior to your
arrival?
A
Yes.
Q
And you would also agree that for a period of time
a man named Manuk Grigoryan lived in the apartment at
Unit 337?
A
Could you repeat that question one more time.
Q
Yes.  You would agree that for a period of time
there was a man named Manuk Grigoryan who lived in the
apartment at 6150 Canoga Avenue?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
And you would also agree that there is no evidence
that a man named Richard Ayvazian was a leaseholder or
otherwise lived at that apartment?
MR. FENTON:  Objection, your Honor.  Lacks
foundation.
THE COURT:  Sustained.  Don't get into that type
of questioning.  
MR. KEOUGH:  Yes, your Honor.
Q
I would like to bring up an exhibit that you just
discussed with the government.  I just want to ask you
one question about it.
If we could bring up Exhibit 54B, okay,
exhibit 54B which is in evidence, and if we could just
zoom in a bit to highlight the piece of paper.  Okay.
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Now, you read out the list of names when you
were questioned by Mr. Fenton.  I just want to ask you
about one of them.  You see the first one says VLA.  Do
you see that there on the left-hand side?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
Now, if you count down to the fourth row, one, two,
three, four, do you agree that that word says Jobe?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
Thank you.  And my last question is as part of the
search warrant that you executed, are you aware of any
fingerprint evidence was collected or taken during that
search warrant?  
A
No, sir?
MR. KEOUGH:  No further questions.
MR. MESEREAU:  May I, your Honor?
THE COURT:  Yes, please.
MR. MESEREAU:  Thank you.
 
CROSS-EXAMINATION  
BY MR. MESEREAU: 
Q
Mr. Kim, my name is Tom Mesereau, and I speak for
Artur Ayvazian.
A
Good morning. 
Q
In the items you have described and identified
today, nothing refers to Artur Ayvazian; correct?
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A
No, sir.
Q
And in the items you described and identified
today, nothing refers to a company called Allstate Towing
and Transport; correct?
A
Correct, sir.
MR. MESEREAU:  No further questions, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Anything else?
MR. FENTON:  No, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Thank you, sir.  Thank you.  
Agent Kim, you are excused.
Call the next witness.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, the government would like to
call Special Agent Caitlin Bowdler, B-O-W-D-L-E-R.
THE CLERK:  Please step forward.
(The witness was sworn.) 
THE CLERK:  State your full name and spell it for
the record.
THE WITNESS:  Caitlin Bowdler.  C-A-I-T-L-I-N,
B-O-W-D-L-E-R. 
 
DIRECT EXAMINATION  
BY MS. AHN: 
Q
Good morning, Special Agent Bowdler.
A
Good morning.
Q
Are you employed?
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A
Yes, I am.
Q
With what organization?
A
The FBI.
Q
What is your position at the FBI?
A
Special Agent.
Q
How long have you been employed as an FBI Special
Agent?
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Since March, 2017.
Q
Did you receive training to be a Special Agent?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
Did you receive specific training in the collection
of evidence?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
As part of your duties, do you aassist in search
warrants?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
As part of your duties at FBI, did you become aware
of an investigation into Richard Ayvazian and Marietta
Terabelian?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
Did you collect evidence as part of this
investigation?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
What location?
A
I was at the 4910 Topeka location.
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Q
Is that in Tarzana, California?
A
Yes.
Q
Did you take on a particular role with respect to
the search of the Topeka property?
A
I eventually became the evidence custodian at that
location.
THE COURT:  I am having trouble hearing you.  Can
you put the microphone a little lower.
THE WITNESS:  I took on the role of evidence
custodian at that location.
Q    BY MS. AHN:  Could you define for the jury what an 
evidence custodian does? 
A
So the evidence custodian takes all the evidence
items and writes them on the evidence collected item log
and bags the items, tags them and eventually takes them
back to the FBI space for processing.
Q
What do you mean by bag and tag?
A
So that means you take the item of evidence, you
put it in a plastic, paper or box depending on the size
of the item and then you tag it with information written
on the tag such as where it was found, the date, the
location, who it was found by, that type of information.
Q
The number that you put on the tag on the field,
does that remain its permanent number?
A
No.  So it is an evidence item number in the field,
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and that is translated into a 1B number when it gets back
to evidence in FBI space.
Q
And who assigns the 1B number?
A
The evidence technicians.
Q
You mentioned that you eventually became the
evidence custodian.  Did you take on additional duties or
previous duties at the Topeka residence?
A
Yes.  I initially started searching in some of the
garage space of the residence.
Q
Did you seize digital devices from the garage area?
A
Yes, I did.
Q
What did you seize?
A
We seized a phone, laptop and a flash drive.
Q
Can you generally describe the area from which you
seized those devices in the garage?
A
Yes.  It was set up as a desk-type space, like to
be a work area.
Q
Was there anything in that area that indicated a
name?
A
Yes.  There was a Mastercard with the last name
Ayvazian.
Q
Was there a first name?
A
Richard.
Q
So you mentioned that you found and seized a phone.
Could you identify the 1B number for the phone seized
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from the garage area?
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I believe that is 1B85.
Q
So once you took the phone, what did you do with
it?
A
I take the phone, once we had our evidence
custodian area set up.  I take it there to put on the
evidence collected item log where it is determined where
the item was found.  That is written down in that log as
well as who found it and who observed it.  And it was
eventually put in a bag with a tag on it describing all
of that information.
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Did that get assigned a 1B number?
A
Yes.
Q
So I am showing you -- I am going to show you what
has been marked as Government's Exhibit 27 for
identification.  Hold on a moment.  Let me grab it.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, may I approach the witness?
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MS. AHN:  Have you had sufficient time to look at 
the item? 
A
Yes.
Q
Is that item labeled?  
A
Yes, it is.
Q
What is it labeled?
A
Item No. 1B85.
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Do you recognize what that is?
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Yes, I do.
Q
What is it?
A
A black iPhone.
Q
Is that the iPhone you found?
A
Yes.
MS. AHN:  May I approach the witness to receive
the item back?
THE COURT:  Yes.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, move to admit physical item
Government Exhibit 27.
THE COURT:  Received.  
MS. AHN:  Permission to publish.
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MS. AHN:  Special Agent Bowdler, do you see what 
is on your screen? 
A
Yes, I do.
Q
Is that the phone that you seized from the garage?
A
Yes, it is.
Q
After you searched the garage, you mentioned that
you became the evidence custodian; is that correct?
A
That's correct.
Q
Can you explain for the jury how that relates to
evidence found by other agents?
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So the evidence custodian, all other agents will
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come to me and bring me the evidence items that were
found on the property, tell me where they found it, who
was with them and any information that I need to put on
the evidence collected item log.
Q
And then what did you do?
A
Then I filled out the evidence collected item log
with whatever they specified.
Q
Would you bag and tag the item?
A
Yes, I would.
Q
Would you tag it with a unique item number?
A
Yes.
Q
And where were you located when you set up as
evidence custodian?
A
We set up a table in the driveway of the property.
Q
After that point were you wandering around the
residence?
A
No.
Q
Were there other digital devices that were found?
MR. LITTRELL:  Objection.  Foundation.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, she was the evidence
custodian, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Well, the question I think should be
did she receive other phones from other agents?
MS. AHN:  Yes, your Honor.
Q
Did you receive phones from other agents?  
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Yes, I did.
Q
Did that include an item marked as No. 10?
A
Yes, it did.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, may I approach?
THE COURT:  Yes.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, may I approach the witness?
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MS. AHN:  Have you reviewed or looked at the 
item? 
A
Yes.
Q
Do you recognize that item?
A
Yes, I do.
Q
What is it?
A
It is a teal iPhone or light green iPhone.
Q
Is that an item that you, as you say, bagged and
tagged?
A
Yes.
Q
What was the item number?
A
10.
Q
Was that assigned a 1B number?
A
Yes.  1B81.
MS. AHN:  May I approach, your Honor?
THE COURT:  Yes.  You don't have to ask me every
time in this examination.  If this is what you intend to
do, it is permissible.
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MS. AHN:  Thank you, your Honor.
Q
Special Agent Bowdler, is this item 1B81?
A
Yes, it is.
Q
Is this one of the items that was handed to you
during the search of the Topeka residence?
A
Yes, it was.
MS. AHN:  My apologies, your Honor, I neglected to
request admission and publication.  
THE COURT:  It is received.  You can publish it.
MS. AHN:  Thank you, your Honor.
Q
Special Agent Bowdler, were valuables brought to
you for evidence collection during the search?
A
Yes.
Q
Can you generally describe what those valuables
were?
A
There was cash as well as jewelry and gold coins.
Q
Did that also include a watch?
A
Yes.
Q
Special Agent Bowdler, have you looked at the item
I just handed you?
A
Yes.
Q
Was it assigned a field number?  
A
Yes.  32.
Q
And was it assigned a 1B number?
A
Yes.  1B67.
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MS. AHN:  I am marking this as Government Exhibit
56 for identification.  I would like to mark it as
Government Exhibit 56L for identification.
Do you recognize what this is?
A
I can't see.
Q
Oh.  The item in front of you.
A
The watch.
Q
What is it?
A
It is a watch.
Q
Is this the item that was brought to you for
evidence collection at the Topeka residence?
A
Yes, it was.
Q
And how do you know that?
A
I can tell that is my handwriting on the label and
that it was also my handwriting in terms of sealing it.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, move to admit Government
Exhibit 56L.
THE COURT:  I can't see anything on the screen.
MS. AHN:  I will publish it in a moment, your
Honor?
THE COURT:  You can seeking to admit the item the
agent has in her hand?
MS. AHN:  Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Received. 
MS. AHN:  Permission to publish, your Honor.
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THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MS. AHN:  Do you see that item on your screen, 
Agent Bowdler? 
A
Yes, I do.
Q
Can you generally describe what you are seeing?
A
A Rolex watch.
Q
You mentioned that gold coins were brought to you;
is that correct?
A
Yes.
Q
Have you had a chance to look at the item I just
handed to you?
A
Yes.
MS. AHN:  And I am going to mark that as 56M for
identification.
Q
Do you recognize the item in your hand?
A
Yes.
Q
What is it?
A
Item No. 45.  Gold Canadian coins.
Q
Was that assigned a 1B number?  
A
Yes.  1B60.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, move to admit Government
Exhibit 56M.
THE COURT:  Received.
MS. AHN:  Permission to publish.
THE COURT:  Yes.
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Q    BY MS. AHN:  I am not sure I was able to fit all the 
gold coins on there, but, generally, do you recall how 
many gold coins were seized? 
A
Approximately 60.
Q
I am just going to hand you four bags.
So I just handed you four bags, Special Agent
Bowdler.  Let's just start with the first bag which I
will mark for identification as 56N.
Do you recognize just the first bag I handed
you.  Do you recognize what that is?
A
Yes.
Q
Is that an item that you bagged and tagged?
A
Yes.
Q
What is the item number associated with that bag?
A
Item No. 10.
Q
And was it assigned a 1B number?
A
1B105.
MS. AHN:  Move for admission, your Honor?
THE COURT:  Received. 
Q    BY MS. AHN:  So the second item I just handed you, 
do you recognize what that is? 
A
Yes.
Q
How do you recognize it?
A
It is a watch.
Q
Did you bag and tag that watch?
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A
Yes.
Q
Was it assigned an item number?
A
Item No. 9.
Q
And the 1B number?
A
104.
MS. AHN:  For identification, I am going to
identify that as 56M.  Your Honor, move for admission?
THE COURT:  Received. 
MS. AHN:  Clarification.  That should have been
56N.
Q
The third item I gave you.  Do you recognize that?
A
Yes.
Q
Did you bag and tag that item?
A
Yes.
Q
What is in it?
A
It is a watch.
Q
Was it assigned an item number?
A
Item 8.
Q
1B number?
A
1B97.
Q
And then the fourth item I handed you which I will
mark as Government Exhibit P as in Paul, do you recognize
that item?
A
Yes.
Q
Was it given to you during the search?
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A
Yes, it was.
Q
Did you bag and tag that item?  
A
Yes.
Q
Was it given an item number?
A
Item No. 2.
Q
A field -- excuse me.  A 1B number?
A
1B63.
MS. AHN:  Your Honor, move to admit 56O and 56P?
THE COURT:  Received. 
MS. AHN:  Your Honor was correct in saying this is
a very long courtroom.
Q
I am going to go ahead and put items 56 -- items
56N1, 56N2, 56O and 56P.  So are these the four watches,
minus the first watch that we discussed, that were handed
to you from the Topeka residence?
A
Yes.
Q
I am not sure you are going to be able to see this
one.  Can you identify the type of watch this is?
A
Royal Oaks.
Q
How about this one?
A
Royal Oaks.
Q
How about this one?
A
Royal Oak.
Q
This one?
A
Royal Oak.
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Q
Do you have particular expertise in watches,
Special Agent Bowdler?
A
I do not.
Q
Are you just reading the names off the watch?
A
Yes.
Q
All right.  So in addition to the 60 gold coins and
five watches, four of which are displayed on the screen,
did agents bring you any cash to bag and tag?
A
Yes, they did.
Q
What did you do with the cash?
A
We put in a box to transport back to FBI space.
Q
Do you normally put items in a box?  
A
We put them in a box if they don't fit in plastic
bags, paper bags that we have on site.
Q
Was there too much cash to fit in the bags?
A
Yes.
Q
Was it assigned an item number?
A
Yes.
Q
What item number?
A
Can you --
Q
Do you remember the item number for the cash?
A
That I had for the cash.
Q
Do you remember bagging and tagging cash?
A
Putting it in the box, yes, and putting it on the
collected evidence item log.  If I recall, evidence item
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27.
Q
Would it help to refresh your recollection with
your evidence log?
A
Yes.
MS. AHN:  Permission to approach, your Honor?
THE COURT:  Yes.
Is it 12:00 o'clock now.
THE CLERK:  It is, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Okay.
(Court and counsel confer.) 
THE COURT:  Maybe we should keep going then.  I am
informed that Mr. Cruz gets notification of when the
jurors' lunch arrives and he hasn't received that.  So I
am going to keep on going until he gets word that lunches
have arrived, and then I will take the break.
Is that okay with the jury?  Okay.  All right.
We will keep going.
MS. AHN:  May I approach the witness, your Honor?
THE COURT:  Yes.
Q    BY MS. AHN:  Is your memory refreshed? 
A
Yes.
Q
Would you mind just turning it over and putting it
to the side.  Thank you.
Do you recall the item number associated with
the cash that you found?
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A
Item 29.
Q
Do you recall the --
MS. NEWCOMER:  Objection, your Honor.  This
evidence has been excluded.
THE COURT:  I don't know what is coming up here.
Would you approach.
MS. AHN:  Yes, your Honor.
(The following proceedings were held at sidebar 
outside the presence of the jury:) 
THE COURT:  Let me ask you, what are you intending
to do?
MS. AHN:  I am not physically bringing the cash,
just introduce the fact that they found cash at the
residence.
THE COURT:  But what cash?
MS. AHN:  It was the subject of your ruling this
morning, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Well, I am not -- wait.  Wait.  Don't
jump in.  Let me just ask each person to speak at one
time.
THE COURT:  What are you intending to do with this
witness at this point?  What are you going to ask?
MS. AHN:  Just I was done with my inquiry as to
cash, and then I was going to --
THE COURT:  Well, what about the cash?  You are
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just going to leave it at that?
MS. AHN:  Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT:  Not the amount or anything like that?
MS. AHN:  I was going to inquire as to the amount,
your Honor.
THE COURT:  Well, didn't I -- I thought I did make
a ruling in limine regarding the 450,000.
MS. AHN:  Oh.  Yes, your Honor.  I apologize, your
Honor.
THE COURT:  That came up with Terabelian allegedly
tossing it in some shrubbery.
MS. AHN:  We are not going to introduce that into
evidence.
THE COURT:  But the essence of the ruling was that
looking at all the records, the cash, as my late partner
used to say, didn't have a mother and a father.
MS. AHN:  Yes, your Honor.  I apologize.  I
misunderstood this morning's ruling.
THE COURT:  So if it doesn't have a mother and a
father, it is not admissible.
MS. AHN:  Yes, your Honor.
(The following proceedings were in the presence of 
the jury:) 
THE COURT:  Lunch is here.  That is good for
everybody.
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All right.  Let's have lunch and come back at
about 10 after.  Thank you.
(Luncheon recess from 12:03 to 1:10 p.m.) 
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CERTIFICATE 
 
I hereby certify that pursuant to Section 753, Title 28, 
United States Code, the foregoing is a true and correct 
transcript of the stenographically reported proceedings held 
in the above-entitled matter and that the transcript page 
format is in conformance with the regulations of the 
Judicial Conference of the United States.   
Date:  June 17, 2021 
 
 /s/ Katie Thibodeaux, CSR No. 9858, RPR, CRR 
 
 
  
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1:10 [1]  110/3
1B [11]  95/1 95/3 95/25
 96/12 99/20 100/24 102/19
 103/16 104/4 104/19 105/6
1B105 [1]  103/17
1B60 [1]  102/20
1B63 [1]  105/7
1B67 [1]  100/25
1B81 [2]  99/21 100/2
1B85 [2]  96/2 96/25
1B97 [1]  104/20
1F [1]  53/8
1M [1]  69/1
1P [1]  52/17
1st [1]  1/22
2
20 [2]  17/14 18/11
20,000 [1]  14/17
20-579 [1]  1/8
20036 [1]  2/23
2013 [1]  16/16
2014 [1]  17/1
2017 [1]  93/8
2018 [5]  9/2 9/23 10/1 10/10
 49/3
2019 [7]  17/16 54/24 55/6
 55/10 55/10 62/7 66/4
2020 [29]  9/15 10/1 11/1
 13/18 14/11 16/20 17/3 17/6
 17/7 17/11 17/20 18/6 20/3
 20/6 32/9 36/25 37/4 39/22
 51/9 55/4 55/13 55/21 57/15
 61/13 61/13 61/14 63/6 68/20
 84/17
2021 [4]  1/17 5/1 26/13
 111/10
20530 [1]  2/10
20th [3]  17/1 57/15 57/19
216 [1]  3/13
22nd [1]  51/23
23 [3]  49/16 49/18 68/16
24 [10]  21/9 21/10 27/11
 27/14 27/16 27/18 27/21
 28/18 31/11 48/17
249,807 [1]  47/15
25 [1]  70/6
25th [1]  36/25
26 [1]  56/4
27 [8]  4/18 33/15 33/16
 33/17 34/8 96/15 97/11 107/1
28 [4]  23/14 25/11 25/20
 111/4
29 [1]  108/1
2nd [2]  55/13 62/15
3
3.25 million [1]  35/7
3/13 [2]  67/4 67/6
3/2 [1]  62/14
3/23 [1]  68/16
3/3 [1]  63/25
3/31 [1]  68/18
3/6 [1]  66/7
300 [1]  3/16
31 [2]  66/13 68/18
312 [1]  2/6
32 [1]  100/23
337 [3]  84/14 89/21 90/6
350 [2]  1/22 3/5
39 [1]  62/13
3900 [1]  2/20
3rd [2]  57/19 58/14
4
403 [1]  10/17
404 [2]  10/8 10/15
409 [1]  3/20
43 [1]  4/5
4311 [1]  1/22
44 [2]  57/16 58/6
44,000 [1]  10/20
45 [1]  102/18
450,000 [1]  109/7
4910 [1]  93/25
5
50 percent [1]  42/23
50,000 [1]  14/17
500 [1]  35/14
50A [8]  4/14 74/9 74/21
 75/19 75/22 78/6 78/12 78/15
50B [4]  4/15 75/8 75/11
 75/22
50D [10]  4/15 75/25 75/25
 76/8 76/22 77/21 77/24 78/7
 78/12 78/15
50E [4]  4/16 76/12 77/19
 77/24
5268 [1]  36/24
53 [1]  27/15
54 [11]  4/5 22/16 23/19
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54... [8]  24/22 26/1 27/11
 27/14 27/21 27/23 28/18
 88/17
54A [3]  4/16 85/13 88/16
54B [5]  4/17 86/10 88/16
 90/23 90/24
54D [3]  4/17 87/17 88/18
54F [2]  4/18 88/21
56 [2]  101/2 105/12
565 [1]  35/13
565,000 [1]  47/15
56L [3]  4/19 101/3 101/17
56M [4]  4/20 102/13 102/22
 104/7
56N [4]  4/20 4/21 103/8
 104/10
56N1 [1]  105/13
56N2 [1]  105/13
56O [3]  4/21 105/8 105/13
56P [3]  4/22 105/8 105/13
579 [1]  1/8
58 [1]  74/18
5th [4]  2/14 3/8 9/15 84/17
6
60 [2]  103/4 106/6
601 [1]  3/8
6150 [3]  84/14 89/21 90/10
633 [1]  2/14
639,807 [2]  35/5 35/22
64 [1]  4/14
65 [1]  4/14
651 [1]  3/21
67 [2]  8/11 8/12
6822 [1]  40/5
69 [1]  4/7
7
720 [1]  3/8
74 [1]  4/14
75 [4]  4/14 4/15 4/15 4/15
753 [1]  111/4
76 [1]  4/16
77 [2]  4/15 4/16
79 [1]  4/7
7900 [1]  66/2
8
8/20/2019 [1]  62/7
801 [8]  4/14 64/25 65/19
 65/22 66/13 67/25 68/10
 68/13
83 [1]  4/9
85 [2]  4/16 4/16
86 [1]  4/17
87 [2]  4/17 4/17
88 [2]  4/17 4/18
89 [4]  4/9 4/18 48/5 49/16
9
9/18/2019 [1]  66/4
90012 [2]  1/23 2/7
90067 [1]  3/16
90071 [2]  2/15 3/9
90277 [1]  3/21
903 [1]  3/5
91 [1]  4/10
91208 [1]  3/13
92 [1]  4/11
92673 [1]  3/6
93 [1]  35/13
94105 [1]  2/21
96 [1]  4/18
97 [2]  4/18 48/10
97-page [1]  48/8
9700 [1]  52/19
9858 [2]  1/21 111/12
99 [1]  4/19
9:00 [1]  5/2
A
A-R-T-U-R [1]  69/20
a.m [3]  1/16 5/2 65/13
aassist [1]  93/14
ability [1]  16/12
able [9]  22/13 25/6 55/2
 58/6 66/8 68/10 68/12 103/1
 105/17
about [53]  6/19 7/15 8/11
 9/22 11/6 11/14 11/14 12/24
 14/20 15/13 20/13 22/25
 25/18 27/20 28/12 30/11 31/8
 31/22 38/1 38/8 38/12 40/13
 40/14 40/17 42/4 45/2 47/7
 47/18 47/19 48/6 48/24 49/3
 49/10 50/1 51/5 54/11 56/22
 56/23 57/18 58/25 59/24
 61/24 63/15 63/18 63/22
 79/14 80/2 90/22 91/3 105/20
 105/22 108/25 110/2
above [1]  111/7
above-entitled [1]  111/7
Accel [1]  87/10
accepted [1]  38/10
access [3]  33/1 50/4 50/15
according [4]  38/9 46/16
 46/22 71/24
account [96] 
accountant [5]  24/23 40/4
 60/20 60/22 60/23
accounting [5]  29/4 38/21
 38/25 42/4 60/24
accounts [61] 
accuracy [1]  37/24
accurate [11]  40/18 74/21
 75/17 76/8 76/20 77/19 85/21
 86/16 86/25 87/23 89/1
acknowledge [2]  24/21 24/22
activity [12]  13/20 13/23
 14/3 14/15 19/10 19/11 20/5
 50/12 55/11 55/16 68/24
 68/25
acts [3]  10/9 10/12 10/14
actual [6]  7/5 19/1 33/13
 55/25 65/3 68/12
actually [17]  8/2 8/24 9/2
 10/9 10/9 10/15 21/14 22/10
 23/2 24/16 27/19 33/5 44/8
 44/11 46/9 64/6 88/11
add [1]  79/23
addition [1]  106/6
additional [3]  22/12 58/13
 95/6
adjective [2]  81/1 81/25
admissible [4]  5/22 5/22
 6/16 109/20
admission [3]  100/8 103/18
 104/7
admit [9]  85/24 87/3 88/1
 89/4 97/10 101/16 101/21
 102/21 105/8
admitted [3]  23/11 53/7
 65/19
admitting [1]  74/25
advised [1]  78/11
after [7]  18/11 51/19 75/15
 78/7 97/20 98/15 110/2
afternoon [1]  11/12
again [12]  11/25 25/25 26/4
 32/5 46/6 48/20 49/15 65/17
 73/3 73/6 76/3 87/15
agencies [2]  72/20 73/6
agent [29]  83/23 83/25 84/2
 84/4 84/6 84/10 84/24 85/16
 86/3 86/9 86/21 87/7 88/5
 88/20 89/10 92/10 92/13
 92/23 93/5 93/7 93/9 97/15
 100/2 100/11 100/19 101/22
 102/3 103/6 106/2
agents [7]  8/6 84/25 97/24
 97/25 98/23 98/25 106/8
ago [1]  18/19
agree [5]  78/5 90/4 90/8
 90/12 91/7
Agreed [1]  58/5
ahead [6]  16/9 20/24 38/16
 39/9 88/19 105/12
AHN [3]  2/5 4/11 92/22
al [1]  1/9
all [50]  9/10 14/3 17/5 18/9
 18/11 19/11 23/12 24/9 24/14
 24/20 25/17 25/25 26/9 26/9
 27/2 27/16 27/18 29/12 31/20
 31/23 39/4 43/15 43/17 45/8
 46/6 48/10 48/17 48/19 53/25
 54/1 63/23 66/24 69/1 69/6
 69/10 78/9 78/17 81/16 86/7
 87/13 88/13 89/10 94/13
 96/10 97/25 103/1 106/6
 107/16 109/15 110/1
alleged [3]  9/3 9/6 31/2
allegedly [1]  109/10
allow [1]  49/7
allowed [1]  28/7
allowing [1]  37/23
Allstate [1]  92/3
along [2]  64/8 71/7
alongside [2]  71/10 78/15
Alpha [1]  3/12
also [20]  5/24 10/8 10/25
 22/16 24/22 25/22 26/21
 27/10 44/23 51/18 62/22 72/2
 73/20 80/18 81/23 82/10 90/4
 90/12 100/17 101/15
although [1]  14/3
always [1]  60/9
am [65] 
Amanecer [1]  3/5
ambare [2]  81/15 81/15
ambit [3]  81/11 81/12 81/14
America [3]  1/6 2/3 52/20
Americas [1]  2/17
amount [7]  35/23 35/23 47/3
 51/16 57/5 109/3 109/4
amounts [5]  14/16 14/17
 17/11 49/11 58/13
analysis [12]  10/17 12/23
 17/20 30/15 30/19 34/13
 34/16 35/16 39/20 39/20 40/5
 51/24
analyze [6]  14/8 39/1 39/2
 39/11 61/1 61/4
analyzed [1]  21/11
analyzing [2]  20/6 39/7
ANGELES [8]  1/14 1/23 2/7
 2/15 3/9 3/16 5/1 84/1
another [16]  8/10 16/24 19/3
 23/7 27/1 30/7 37/7 47/1
 52/18 53/8 63/19 72/14 73/9
 74/2 86/8 87/13
answer [13]  13/24 18/23
 21/24 25/6 26/8 26/19 26/20
 26/25 30/3 36/7 43/8 54/1
 59/13
answered [4]  20/8 31/4 36/12
 59/12
any [44]  7/7 7/15 8/8 18/4
 18/10 18/12 19/24 21/6 21/19
 22/7 22/17 23/19 29/20 29/24
 29/25 30/12 30/21 30/24
 32/15 33/6 33/6 33/17 33/25
 34/3 34/9 34/17 36/2 36/9
 38/4 40/17 41/13 41/24 43/10
 46/14 46/22 58/18 63/17
 63/17 69/6 79/5 85/8 91/10
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any... [2]  98/3 106/8
anybody [2]  58/21 58/22
anyone [4]  40/17 69/2 73/7
 80/3
anything [10]  16/21 21/4
 37/25 38/8 58/25 83/8 92/7
 95/18 101/18 109/3
apartment [8]  84/14 84/19
 85/6 85/7 87/24 90/5 90/10
 90/14
apologies [1]  100/7
apologize [7]  24/2 25/10
 32/14 32/23 67/17 109/8
 109/17
apparently [1]  10/22
APPEARANCES [2]  2/1 3/1
appears [5]  5/17 44/10 46/3
 46/6 53/23
applicant [4]  33/19 33/24
 34/3 34/8
application [3]  56/13 56/21
 64/7
applications [2]  33/2 33/13
applied [3]  17/13 46/18 49/2
applies [1]  77/15
apply [2]  10/5 19/19
applying [2]  38/24 60/25
appreciate [1]  12/2
apprehended [4]  80/9 80/10
 80/14 80/17
approach [11]  25/19 65/6
 65/18 96/17 97/7 99/4 99/6
 99/22 107/5 107/18 108/6
approved [1]  19/20
approximately [12]  32/12
 35/9 37/6 43/1 72/16 73/1
 73/11 84/5 84/10 84/12 84/16
 103/4
are [103] 
area [10]  57/1 57/4 60/24
 68/11 95/10 95/14 95/17
 95/18 96/1 96/6
aren't [1]  19/12
arguing [1]  9/25
argument [1]  6/3
Armenia [5]  70/20 71/15
 71/18 71/19 71/24
Armenian [17]  15/21 70/8
 71/12 72/7 72/17 73/2 73/12
 73/19 74/2 74/4 79/3 79/5
 80/9 80/15 80/16 80/23 81/6
around [6]  7/9 7/12 22/4
 29/14 36/24 98/15
arrested [1]  80/14
arrival [1]  90/2
arrive [2]  14/2 14/5
arrived [4]  13/21 13/22
 31/11 107/15
arrives [1]  107/13
arrows [1]  34/21
ARTUR [6]  3/11 4/6 69/14
 69/19 91/22 91/25
as [72] 
Ashwin [1]  2/13
ask [21]  6/10 11/4 23/17
 24/7 28/11 28/15 28/25 39/19
 39/24 40/1 40/10 45/20 54/10
 55/18 60/9 90/21 91/2 99/23
 108/10 108/19 108/22
asked [26]  13/20 15/9 20/8
 20/16 23/18 24/11 24/18 26/6
 26/19 27/20 28/6 31/4 32/14
 36/6 40/2 40/9 47/18 47/20
 55/14 58/17 58/20 59/11 60/6
 61/3 61/6 61/9
asking [10]  14/8 37/20 38/12
 49/10 50/8 53/22 53/24 53/25
 59/18 59/19
assess [1]  15/22
assigned [11]  84/1 84/20
 96/12 99/20 100/22 100/24
 102/19 103/16 104/2 104/17
 106/17
assignment [1]  73/23
assigns [2]  84/24 95/3
associated [7]  9/1 19/5 19/9
 21/1 27/7 103/14 107/24
assumes [1]  15/25
ATM [1]  50/7
attached [2]  44/20 46/7
attention [8]  45/1 46/1
 48/22 49/15 52/16 74/8 75/24
 76/12
ATTORNEY'S [1]  2/4
Audi [1]  64/15
audio [7]  73/18 73/24 74/14
 74/15 75/13 76/5 78/18
August [5]  36/25 37/4 54/24
 55/3 55/10
August 12th [1]  37/4
August 25th [1]  36/25
AUSA [2]  2/5 2/5
authenticating [1]  75/15
authorizes [1]  48/2
auto [2]  47/16 64/13
automated [1]  78/7
available [2]  49/22 55/3
Avenue [7]  2/10 2/17 2/23
 84/14 84/19 89/21 90/10
aware [6]  6/23 35/9 36/9
 40/4 91/10 93/17
awareness [1]  10/4
Ayvazian [8]  5/20 33/18 34/8
 90/13 91/22 91/25 93/18
 95/21
Ayvazian's [2]  33/8 33/25
Ayvazyan [3]  1/9 2/12 3/11
B
B-O-W-D-L-E-R [2]  92/13
 92/19
back [26]  10/24 14/20 16/2
 16/18 17/1 17/6 17/16 17/17
 22/1 25/8 26/21 29/4 30/4
 31/7 31/25 55/25 56/7 61/12
 65/12 71/23 80/3 94/16 95/1
 97/8 106/11 110/1
background [1]  70/11
bad [1]  35/22
bag [10]  94/17 96/10 98/8
 103/7 103/9 103/14 103/25
 104/13 105/2 106/8
bagged [2]  99/15 103/12
bagging [1]  106/23
bags [6]  94/15 103/5 103/6
 106/14 106/14 106/15
balance [3]  14/4 47/10 48/13
balancing [1]  10/17
Baltimore [1]  67/16
bank [63] 
banking [4]  14/15 49/19 50/1
 50/3
banks [1]  73/7
bar [1]  5/11
barely [1]  85/8
based [6]  5/24 6/13 10/23
 28/5 35/15 63/4
basically [3]  43/2 71/9 72/9
basis [1]  37/11
be [64] 
Beach [1]  3/21
bear [1]  81/7
became [3]  94/5 95/5 97/21
because [11]  9/25 10/9 11/7
 15/1 16/1 19/7 19/9 36/17
 56/1 77/11 79/24
become [1]  93/17
bedroom [1]  85/7
bedrooms [4]  7/19 7/21 7/22
 8/3
been [28]  19/4 20/12 23/11
 23/13 27/8 32/8 53/7 59/9
 59/20 59/21 60/18 61/6 65/25
 70/4 75/7 79/3 84/2 84/4
 84/9 85/12 86/9 87/16 88/21
 90/1 93/6 96/15 104/9 108/4
before [22]  9/3 10/21 13/18
 14/4 14/10 14/10 14/18 16/21
 17/6 17/7 17/11 17/19 18/5
 20/5 26/10 26/17 28/24 31/10
 47/10 55/11 66/15 67/15
began [1]  9/3
beginning [1]  62/14
BEHALF [1]  2/3
being [6]  11/25 32/1 36/3
 36/4 77/11 79/2
believe [7]  34/12 36/15
 38/14 45/16 62/21 62/22 96/2
between [11]  12/21 13/12
 13/18 14/9 14/14 14/18 14/22
 17/10 27/23 70/8 78/10
beyond [11]  14/25 15/1 18/20
 22/19 23/4 28/1 28/10 40/20
 49/6 63/2 63/3
bias [1]  37/25
biased [1]  38/18
Bienert [2]  3/4 3/7
big [3]  42/14 42/16 48/19
biggest [1]  72/21
bill [1]  43/12
bit [3]  20/13 59/23 90/25
black [2]  35/13 97/4
Blame [1]  81/15
blank [1]  68/11
Board [2]  67/7 67/12
born [3]  71/14 71/16 71/23
both [1]  72/20
bottom [2]  9/11 87/11
bought [1]  7/7
Boulevard [1]  3/15
BOWDLER [11]  4/11 92/13
 92/18 92/23 97/15 100/2
 100/11 100/19 102/3 103/7
 106/2
box [5]  94/19 106/11 106/12
 106/13 106/24
boy [1]  88/17
branch [1]  50/6
break [5]  20/12 59/25 65/10
 65/11 107/15
briefly [2]  6/5 9/21
bring [5]  30/4 90/20 90/23
 98/1 106/8
bringing [1]  108/12
broad [1]  29/9
broader [1]  27/6
brought [4]  8/4 100/11
 101/10 102/7
Broward [1]  78/8
business [6]  5/19 42/12
 62/24 63/6 67/5 67/5
business-to-business [1] 
 67/5
businesses [3]  62/20 67/14
 67/17
C
C-A-I-T-L-I-N [1]  92/18
CA [9]  1/23 2/7 2/15 2/21
 3/6 3/9 3/13 3/16 3/21
CAITLIN [3]  4/11 92/13 92/18
calculation [2]  7/6 7/11
CALIFORNIA [10]  1/2 1/14 5/1
 29/16 30/8 30/20 31/3 33/3
 67/13 94/1
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call [7]  28/17 69/12 74/17
 79/15 83/11 92/11 92/13
Calle [1]  3/5
called [7]  18/2 29/5 71/10
 71/23 72/12 72/14 92/3
calls [6]  69/13 78/9 78/10
 78/12 78/13 83/12
came [8]  8/17 20/14 41/16
 46/24 50/19 51/20 57/5
 109/10
camera [2]  75/2 75/3
can [76] 
can't [6]  25/6 27/15 55/11
 86/19 101/5 101/18
Canadian [1]  102/18
cannot [1]  23/10
Canoga [8]  84/14 84/19 85/22
 87/1 87/24 89/2 89/21 90/10
capable [1]  79/24
capital [3]  64/10 68/17
 71/17
captured [1]  9/2
captures [1]  21/9
car [1]  66/21
card [7]  48/21 48/23 52/17
 52/23 53/1 53/13 86/4
cards [3]  47/20 85/10 85/11
case [28]  5/16 5/25 9/6
 20/17 24/15 27/24 28/10
 28/13 28/20 29/17 30/1 30/7
 30/7 30/15 30/24 32/9 32/16
 33/7 41/20 41/21 43/2 48/20
 50/18 61/8 73/15 77/15 82/7
 82/12
cases [6]  27/23 27/24 29/20
 29/23 31/2 59/1
cash [16]  39/13 58/8 100/16
 106/8 106/10 106/15 106/21
 106/22 106/23 107/25 108/12
 108/13 108/15 108/24 108/25
 109/15
CATHERINE [1]  2/5
caught [3]  79/20 80/13 80/17
CBD [1]  87/10
Celtic [2]  56/13 57/5
censored [1]  16/11
CENTRAL [1]  1/2
certain [4]  20/18 31/18
 74/22 76/10
certainly [1]  5/16
certainty [1]  27/16
CERTIFICATE [1]  111/1
certify [1]  111/4
chance [1]  102/10
change [1]  31/20
changes [3]  31/18 31/24 32/1
changing [1]  32/2
characterization [1]  50/5
characterize [1]  52/7
charge [1]  20/13
chart [38]  12/23 13/5 13/7
 14/10 15/9 15/20 15/23 17/12
 21/9 21/12 27/13 30/5 30/6
 30/25 31/9 31/18 31/20 31/22
 31/24 32/19 33/19 40/16
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grab [1]  96/16
grade [1]  72/1
graduate [1]  70/15
green [1]  99/14
greeting [1]  78/7
grew [1]  71/14
Grigoryan [3]  86/6 90/5 90/9
group [2]  3/15 27/18
guess [2]  12/20 60/19
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H-A-K-O-P-Y-A-N [1]  69/20
had [21]  9/16 10/3 10/19
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HAKOPYAN [6]  4/6 69/14 69/19
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half [7]  7/13 9/7 35/17
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hand [7]  35/3 62/6 68/4 91/4
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handed [9]  65/21 100/4
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handful [1]  58/12
handwriting [2]  101/14
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handwritten [2]  86/14 86/23
happened [1]  10/22
happening [1]  6/13
happy [3]  43/16 43/17 65/10
has [27]  5/13 10/11 10/18
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hasn't [3]  38/14 90/1 107/13
have [98] 
having [1]  94/7
he [4]  34/2 34/10 107/13
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headphones [1]  74/7
hear [6]  6/4 8/6 37/18 44/16
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heard [3]  6/5 18/15 73/17
hearing [2]  83/3 94/7
hearsay [1]  8/4
held [6]  5/6 11/22 37/12
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help [3]  18/3 22/14 107/2
helpful [2]  15/10 29/3
helps [1]  11/25
her [35]  5/20 9/16 9/18
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here [32]  14/23 17/25 18/3
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hereby [1]  111/4
hey [1]  60/2
highlight [3]  67/6 68/16
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highlighted [1]  35/22
highlighting [1]  33/22
Highway [1]  3/20
hire [1]  73/9
hired [1]  59/20
his [3]  62/5 71/8 78/10
history [2]  62/12 62/14
Hold [1]  96/16
Honor [94] 
HONORABLE [1]  1/3
hopefully [2]  8/19 60/14
hospitals [1]  72/24
hour [1]  43/13
house [4]  6/14 7/16 80/21
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housewife [1]  5/19
how [36]  5/15 7/10 13/17
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however [1]  21/24
huh [3]  57/20 77/4 80/11
hundred [1]  14/17
hundreds [3]  72/18 73/8
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Hupp [4]  87/10 87/22 88/8
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husband [1]  5/20
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I'm [5]  8/15 39/9 46/14
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I.D [1]  4/13
iCloud [1]  10/22
identical [1]  32/6
identification [8]  23/14
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identified [7]  19/21 21/8
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identifies [1]  16/6
identify [5]  19/18 47/20
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identities [2]  29/21 30/7
image [5]  8/16 8/23 9/1 9/2
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images [2]  10/20 10/21
immediate [1]  57/22
immediately [1]  36/19
impeccable [1]  81/14
important [1]  77/9
impression [4]  6/18 6/23 9/5
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include [4]  76/24 77/8 99/2
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included [4]  77/9 77/14
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including [5]  10/6 23/17
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income [1]  26/3
incoming [1]  51/22
independent [1]  22/5
independently [2]  32/15 36/9
indepently [1]  21/20
indicate [1]  66/1
indicated [3]  41/14 56/8
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indicates [3]  17/21 45/13
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indicating [1]  18/2
indictment [1]  9/3
indirectly [1]  79/18
individual [4]  33/23 34/3
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individuals [4]  12/20 13/19
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informal [1]  80/13
informally [1]  80/14
information [10]  15/23 18/12
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informed [1]  107/12
initial [1]  40/20
initialed [1]  76/3
initially [1]  95/8
initials [3]  74/12 75/15
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inmate [1]  78/10
inquire [1]  109/4
inquiry [1]  108/23
instances [6]  17/17 31/23
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instruction [1]  29/2
instructions [1]  20/14
Insurance [2]  64/11 68/18
intend [3]  8/21 13/14 99/24
intended [2]  11/2 62/19
intending [2]  108/10 108/21
intends [6]  6/12 7/1 8/21
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intent [5]  40/2 40/3 58/18
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intention [1]  10/13
intentionally [1]  59/22
Interiors [2]  45/2 45/21
interpret [1]  80/6
interpretation [1]  71/1
interpreter [9]  70/2 70/5
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interpreting [6]  71/3 71/5
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introduce [7]  7/1 8/21 8/24
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introduced [4]  11/3 11/8
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introduction [1]  5/12
investigated [1]  38/13
investigation [4]  27/24
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investigations [2]  28/10
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involve [1]  29/20
involved [4]  6/13 19/12
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involves [1]  79/18
iPhone [5]  10/25 97/4 97/5
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is [473] 
isn't [12]  13/15 16/12 21/15
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issue [3]  6/11 8/10 11/7
it [309] 
item [55]  35/1 35/1 87/1
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items [17]  6/21 6/24 20/23
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its [7]  6/10 9/22 10/13 64/3
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itself [1]  46/6
Iuliia [2]  17/15 54/3
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January [10]  16/20 17/3 17/7
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January 16 [1]  49/3
January 20 [2]  17/14 18/11
JD [1]  70/17
Jennifer [1]  3/12
jewelry [1]  100/16
jewels [2]  6/14 6/15
job [1]  48/19
Jobe [1]  91/7
jog [1]  22/14
John [2]  3/4 44/1
Johnson [8]  2/14 2/17 2/19
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Jr [1]  3/14
JUDGE [1]  1/4
Judicial [1]  111/9
July [2]  57/19 58/14
July 3rd [2]  57/19 58/14
jump [2]  27/19 108/19
JUNE [11]  1/17 5/1 47/11
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June 17th [1]  47/11
June 19th [4]  47/11 50/20
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June 22 nd [1]  47/13
June 22nd [1]  51/23
Juror [1]  80/3
jurors' [1]  107/13
jury [23]  1/15 5/7 8/9 11/15
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just [86] 
JUSTICE [14]  2/4 2/9 29/10
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katarion [5]  81/17 81/17
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KATIE [2]  1/21 111/12
Katzman [2]  3/4 3/7
Kauichko [2]  10/6 52/22
Kauichko's [1]  53/2
keep [5]  43/15 43/17 107/11
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Keough [3]  2/19 4/9 89/16
kilos [1]  7/10
kim [15]  4/8 83/12 83/18
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kinds [1]  39/4
kitchen [1]  85/20
knew [3]  6/19 40/17 58/21
know [62] 
knowingly [1]  58/21
knowledge [5]  10/3 10/19
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known [1]  10/24
knows [2]  82/24 83/2
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LA [1]  15/21
label [1]  101/14
labeled [2]  96/22 96/24
Lacks [3]  39/16 53/19 90/15
language [10]  70/24 71/9
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languages [5]  70/7 70/9
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laptop [1]  95/13
large [1]  14/16
last [10]  7/25 12/5 23/17
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late [1]  109/15
later [4]  8/25 37/7 47/14
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laundering [5]  59/10 59/22
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Law [2]  3/15 3/20
lay [2]  38/19 38/19
lead [1]  41/10
leader [4]  84/20 84/22 84/24
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learn [1]  71/21
leaseholder [1]  90/13
least [4]  5/17 21/15 29/1
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leave [1]  109/1
lecturn [1]  6/7
left [5]  35/3 46/10 87/8
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left-hand [1]  91/4
legal [1]  70/17
legitimate [9]  62/19 62/24
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lender [2]  46/14 46/15
Leonard [2]  87/21 88/8
let [19]  6/25 9/9 15/5 16/8
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let's [30]  8/9 11/14 13/4
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letters [1]  85/9
level [1]  71/12
Lewis [1]  3/4
light [1]  99/14
like [39]  7/13 9/17 14/16
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limine [2]  5/11 109/7
limitations [1]  40/14
Limo [17]  54/13 54/16 54/19
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line [9]  17/15 49/19 54/16
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line 10 [1]  17/15
line 26 [1]  56/4
line 9 [1]  54/16
lines [2]  41/10 64/9
lingo [1]  35/11
link [2]  10/3 13/14
list [4]  27/17 39/7 88/9
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listed [6]  14/22 33/19 33/21
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listen [1]  74/15
literally [1]  20/2
literature [1]  70/24
little [9]  11/13 20/13 36/16
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Littrell [10]  3/4 3/4 3/7
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live [2]  71/19 72/4
lived [3]  90/5 90/9 90/14
living [1]  70/1
LLM [1]  70/17
LLP [6]  2/14 2/17 2/19 2/22
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loan [35]  13/21 14/2 19/17
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loans [20]  10/5 15/3 19/2
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located [1]  98/12
location [5]  93/24 93/25
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log [8]  50/10 94/14 96/7
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long [7]  70/21 71/19 73/8
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longer [3]  36/18 37/12 65/9
look [45]  7/8 14/21 15/14
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looked [20]  8/22 14/15 15/14
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looking [6]  8/25 19/11 36/22
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looks [1]  47/7
LOS [8]  1/14 1/23 2/7 2/15
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lot [2]  34/25 44/22
loudly [1]  70/14
lower [1]  94/8
lunch [3]  107/13 109/24
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Luncheon [1]  110/3
lunches [1]  107/14
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ma'am [1]  69/11
made [11]  5/15 21/3 27/12
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mail [4]  25/18 26/13 26/15
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main [1]  70/24
maintaining [1]  42/12
make [12]  6/3 8/1 13/16 14/6
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making [4]  31/18 37/19 63/17
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makrel [4]  82/8 82/9 82/10
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makur [1]  81/7
man [3]  90/5 90/9 90/13
managing [2]  42/8 42/10
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manner [1]  60/19
Manuk [3]  86/6 90/5 90/9
many [16]  7/10 10/5 12/21
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March [18]  13/18 14/10 20/3
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March 2nd [2]  55/13 62/15
Marietta [5]  34/22 47/9 78/8
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mark [4]  101/2 102/13 103/8
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marked [9]  23/13 53/7 75/8
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Market [1]  2/20
marking [1]  101/1
Mary [3]  44/1 45/17 45/21
MARYLEE [1]  4/4
Mastercard [1]  95/20
matched [1]  56/14
materials [1]  20/19
math [1]  35/21
matter [2]  5/9 111/7
matters [5]  29/25 42/20
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may [24]  6/5 19/4 23/6 24/14
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May 20th [2]  57/15 57/19
maybe [4]  38/13 59/9 61/19
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me [46]  6/25 7/12 8/5 9/9
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mean [24]  8/5 11/6 15/1
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meaning [8]  27/22 28/13
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meanings [5]  77/7 79/8 79/24
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means [18]  9/10 9/15 34/2
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meant [4]  79/15 79/16 79/21
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Media [2]  9/11 10/4
Meghan [1]  2/16
members [1]  11/24
membership [1]  85/11
memo [4]  41/18 41/19 66/23
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memorize [1]  48/19
memorized [1]  13/3
memory [5]  22/14 22/23 23/18
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mentioned [6]  7/14 48/21
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Mesereau [5]  3/14 3/15 4/10
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metric [1]  7/8
Michael [1]  2/19
microphone [2]  8/22 94/8
middle [1]  46/3
might [6]  22/13 25/23 31/20
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million [4]  35/7 35/10 35/24
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mind [3]  5/21 12/20 107/22
minus [1]  105/14
minutes [1]  65/12
misleading [1]  80/1
misquotes [2]  21/22 28/22
misquoting [1]  43/5
misspoke [1]  21/10
misstates [3]  24/25 26/5
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mistake [1]  45/16
misunderstood [1]  109/18
mix [1]  44/25
Mod [2]  45/2 45/21
moment [5]  26/12 27/3 75/4
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momentous [1]  6/2
money [19]  13/17 14/5 14/9
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Monica [1]  3/15
monies [2]  15/4 19/2
monthly [1]  36/4
months [2]  32/12 37/6
more [9]  31/1 38/8 38/15
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morning [21]  11/24 12/13
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morning's [1]  109/18
mortgage [1]  36/4
most [3]  10/21 47/1 72/22
mother [2]  109/16 109/19
motion [2]  5/10 5/10
move [12]  26/14 61/20 66/4
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moved [7]  13/17 14/9 30/16
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movement [1]  58/10
moves [5]  75/21 77/23 87/3
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moving [2]  14/22 34/13
Mr [18]  4/4 4/5 4/5 4/7 4/7
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Mr. [22]  9/22 9/24 23/9
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Mr. Cruz [10]  23/9 23/24
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Mr. Dadyan [1]  58/21
Mr. Dadyan's [1]  57/16
Mr. Fenton [3]  31/15 32/8
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Mr. Hakopyan [3]  69/24 75/7
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Mr. Kim [1]  91/21
Mr. Littrell [2]  9/22 9/24
Mr. Ram [1]  37/20
Ms [4]  4/11 47/22 51/15
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Ms. [34]  6/12 6/19 8/17 8/24
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Ms. Robinson [13]  12/5 12/13
 23/22 24/4 27/1 37/16 38/21
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Ms. Robinson' [1]  28/1
Ms. Robinson's [1]  14/25
Ms. Terabelian [12]  6/12
 6/19 10/3 10/19 44/18 46/3
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 79/15
Ms. Terabelian's [7]  8/17
 8/24 9/14 44/10 48/4 51/5
 80/19
much [4]  24/3 27/6 65/9
 106/15
multiple [3]  20/9 79/8 79/24
my [51]  5/11 5/14 5/21 5/25
 6/2 6/17 8/18 9/24 14/6
 15/15 15/18 22/7 22/12 22/20
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myself [1]  16/11
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name [28]  4/3 10/6 29/5 33/8
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named [3]  90/5 90/9 90/13
names [4]  61/19 87/8 91/1
 106/4
narrative [1]  28/20
narrowed [1]  28/19
narrowing [1]  28/18
Nations [1]  71/6
native [1]  71/14
nature [1]  5/24
Nazar [2]  45/13 45/24
nd [1]  47/13
need [4]  14/3 49/9 55/16
 98/3
needed [1]  20/1
needs [2]  8/22 73/7
negative [2]  47/10 48/12
negel [1]  82/5
neglected [1]  100/7
never [1]  7/7
new [6]  2/10 2/18 10/15
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Newcomer [1]  2/16
next [11]  16/24 18/8 34/6
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Nicholas [1]  2/22
no [46]  1/8 5/21 6/16 6/22
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No. [7]  8/11 52/17 96/25
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No. 10 [2]  99/2 103/15
No. 1B85 [1]  96/25
No. 1P [1]  52/17
No. 45 [1]  102/18
No. 67 [1]  8/11
No. 9 [1]  104/3
nobody [1]  85/8
none [1]  41/11
nonprofits [1]  72/23
normally [1]  106/12
North [2]  2/6 3/20
not [80] 
note [13]  9/20 35/6 76/25
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notebook [1]  74/6
noted [1]  6/15
notes [3]  86/14 86/15 86/24
nothing [4]  31/3 40/23 91/25
 92/3
notice [3]  10/13 10/16 55/5
notification [1]  107/12
November [4]  9/15 17/1 55/13
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November 20th [1]  17/1
November 5th [2]  9/15 84/17
now [54]  6/15 7/6 9/6 18/3
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nuance [1]  79/10
number [36]  21/16 22/11
 22/22 22/25 27/15 61/19
 65/24 66/8 66/12 66/18 77/7
 94/23 94/24 94/25 95/1 95/3
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numbers [3]  13/3 34/25 35/13
NW [2]  2/10 2/23
NY [1]  2/18
O
o'clock [1]  107/7
Oak [2]  105/23 105/25
Oaks [2]  105/19 105/21
oath [1]  12/9
objection [35]  10/8 10/8
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observe [1]  85/5
observed [1]  96/9
occasionally [1]  7/8
occurred [2]  50/13 57/25
October [1]  11/1
off [3]  24/9 50/24 106/4
offering [4]  38/7 40/8 61/10
 64/24
OFFICE [3]  2/4 3/20 78/8
Official [1]  1/21
often [1]  50/6
Oh [2]  101/6 109/8
okay [78] 
Old [1]  5/25
older [1]  9/17
once [4]  11/25 19/20 96/3
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one [52]  6/17 9/11 10/4 10/4
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ones [2]  17/5 51/4
online [9]  49/19 49/22 49/25
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only [22]  9/10 22/16 23/12
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open [1]  16/25
opened [6]  16/16 17/5 18/11
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opening [4]  5/18 54/3 61/25
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operation [2]  84/25 85/1
opinion [11]  38/7 40/9 47/19
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opportunity [2]  5/14 13/14
order [2]  55/5 82/15
organization [1]  93/2
organizations [1]  72/23
orient [1]  61/20
original [1]  6/10
other [47]  9/20 10/9 10/12
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otherwise [1]  90/14
ought [3]  6/1 28/24 29/1
ounce [1]  7/9
our [3]  42/16 67/25 96/5
out [14]  8/25 29/2 33/20
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 98/6
outgoing [2]  51/23 78/9
outset [1]  32/17
outside [5]  5/6 57/23 57/23
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over [5]  16/7 29/12 58/1
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overlapping [1]  30/6
overruled [1]  43/8
oversees [1]  85/1
own [2]  49/2 77/12
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p.m [1]  110/3
Pacific [1]  3/20
packet [1]  66/3
PAETTY [3]  2/5 4/7 69/23
page [41]  4/3 16/5 18/7 18/7
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pages [6]  21/9 24/5 32/20
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paid [3]  42/19 43/1 43/9
pair [1]  74/6
paper [6]  73/24 74/3 85/10
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part [12]  5/18 15/21 27/18
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participating [1]  84/25
particular [5]  61/8 73/23
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parties [11]  5/8 12/1 12/20
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partner [1]  109/15
parts [1]  74/4
party [1]  21/19
password [1]  50/16
past [2]  59/4 59/10
pattern [1]  14/13
Paul [1]  104/22
pause [2]  23/25 26/17
pay [2]  36/4 67/14
payment [9]  35/10 35/14
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payments [1]  36/4
peculiarities [1]  77/12
pending [1]  25/2
people [1]  30/16
percent [1]  42/23
perfect [1]  81/20
perform [2]  28/6 43/11
performed [3]  29/15 30/21
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performing [1]  18/21
period [14]  9/17 10/2 17/16
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 55/4 55/13 55/17 55/21 90/4
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periods [2]  55/19 62/10
permanent [1]  94/24
permissible [2]  53/23 99/25
permission [9]  78/15 86/1
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person [8]  40/23 82/20 82/22
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person's [1]  83/3
personal [3]  44/21 44/24
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personally [2]  42/17 59/14
Peter [2]  3/19 3/20
Phon [10]  81/7 81/9 81/11
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phone [14]  8/17 8/25 9/13
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phones [3]  11/11 98/23 98/25
photo [18]  85/16 85/19 85/20
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photograph [5]  6/17 9/5 9/13
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photographed [1]  8/3
photographs [2]  6/20 7/2
phrase [2]  13/12 38/17
physical [7]  5/22 6/16 7/3
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physically [2]  85/2 108/12
picture [4]  8/13 9/16 86/22
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piece [2]  27/14 90/25
pieces [1]  85/11
place [5]  6/21 6/22 10/10
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PLAINTIFF [2]  1/7 2/3
plan [1]  85/1
plastic [2]  94/19 106/13
play [1]  78/15
played [1]  78/18
please [12]  34/6 69/15 69/17
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plug [1]  44/3
point [13]  12/4 13/15 14/1
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points [1]  12/22
poor [1]  81/24
portion [2]  35/2 51/11
portions [2]  74/22 76/10
posed [1]  60/18
position [2]  58/24 93/4
possession [4]  9/14 9/16
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possible [4]  18/25 19/3 23/9
 27/14
post [2]  86/14 86/23
post-it [2]  86/14 86/23
Postmates [1]  52/11
potentially [2]  30/6 32/3
pounds [2]  7/12 7/13
PPP [37]  10/5 13/18 13/21
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practice [1]  42/16
precise [2]  21/16 22/11
preliminary [1]  28/25
Premium [2]  64/10 68/18
preparation [1]  56/19
prepare [1]  15/9
prepared [8]  12/24 13/5
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preparing [2]  32/10 63/19
presence [5]  5/7 11/23 65/15
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present [2]  5/8 65/18
PRESIDING [1]  1/4
pretrial [1]  5/11
pretty [2]  39/8 48/16
previous [1]  95/7
previously [6]  9/4 23/13
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price [3]  7/7 7/14 35/6
prior [6]  5/11 13/23 14/3
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private [4]  72/22 72/23
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probably [2]  24/19 60/13
probative [1]  6/22
probe [2]  38/1 38/14
problem [1]  8/25
proceed [2]  23/8 89/6
proceedings [8]  1/13 5/6
 11/22 23/25 65/14 108/8
 109/22 111/6
proceeds [4]  36/23 39/21
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process [3]  19/17 50/3 79/17
processing [1]  94/16
product [2]  31/11 32/10
professional [2]  72/17 73/2
professionally [1]  70/4
proficiency [1]  71/12
program [2]  70/21 70/23
progress [1]  5/16
pronounce [1]  66/20
proper [1]  80/16
properties [1]  21/2
property [5]  36/5 85/3 94/4
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prove [1]  10/19
provide [3]  29/11 64/20 88/5
provided [14]  17/17 19/4
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provides [1]  29/9
providing [3]  25/22 39/5
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publication [1]  100/8
publish [9]  86/1 87/5 88/4
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pull [2]  13/4 32/20
pulling [2]  22/5 23/13
purchase [1]  35/6
purchases [1]  21/3
purpose [5]  30/23 37/17 39/2
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purposes [5]  21/11 23/14
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pursuant [1]  111/4
put [17]  25/8 73/24 74/2
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putting [5]  23/11 31/9
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Quality [1]  53/10
question [41]  5/21 13/24
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questioned [1]  91/2
questioning [1]  90/18
questions [15]  28/7 28/25
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quick [1]  57/22
quickly [1]  58/3
quote [1]  26/2
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raised [1]  6/11
Ram [4]  2/13 4/4 12/12 37/20
range [1]  29/9
rate [1]  43/12
rather [1]  22/11
reach [1]  51/4
read [5]  22/1 24/6 78/2 87/8
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reading [2]  54/20 106/4
reality [1]  21/14
really [3]  11/25 14/18 22/19
Realty [3]  16/15 16/19 16/25
reason [3]  28/8 34/17 79/23
reasonable [1]  31/16
reasons [1]  23/4
rebut [1]  6/12
recall [7]  45/3 48/12 80/20
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receipt [1]  19/6
receive [9]  40/24 46/15
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received [22]  6/1 19/2 22/12
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receives [1]  47/11
receiving [2]  41/2 41/7
recess [2]  65/13 110/3
recognize [29]  9/11 61/17
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recollection [7]  24/10 24/13
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reconsideration [1]  5/10
reconsidered [1]  5/13
reconstructing [1]  39/6
record [8]  18/2 25/12 25/15
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recorded [1]  78/13
recording [15]  73/18 73/22
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recordings [2]  73/14 73/20
records [28]  13/23 13/25
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recovered [1]  8/2
redacted [2]  74/23 76/10
redirect [1]  69/7
Redline [1]  47/16
Redondo [1]  3/21
reduced [1]  27/11
reduction [1]  27/20
refer [2]  29/7 33/17
reference [1]  41/24
referenced [1]  18/4
references [1]  41/22
referencing [1]  41/25
referring [5]  17/25 29/23
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refers [4]  49/19 51/11 91/25
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reflect [1]  41/12
reflected [1]  51/18
reflects [1]  49/1
refresh [7]  22/23 24/10
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refreshed [2]  24/13 107/20
refreshes [1]  23/17
regard [2]  15/2 28/3
regarding [2]  59/21 109/7
regulations [1]  111/8
rejected [1]  38/10
relate [3]  15/8 15/23 27/23
related [13]  18/13 18/24
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relates [1]  97/23
relationship [1]  13/12
relevance [4]  10/1 10/2 10/8
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relevant [5]  9/16 19/5 51/24
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relied [1]  31/8
remain [1]  94/24
remained [2]  37/21 57/15
remember [3]  15/15 106/21
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reminded [1]  12/8
removed [1]  90/1
render [3]  59/1 59/21 60/2
rendered [3]  59/8 59/19
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renewed [1]  5/10
repeat [1]  90/7
rephrase [4]  37/15 60/9
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rephrased [1]  60/10
report [1]  9/1
reported [1]  111/6
Reporter [1]  1/21
REPORTER'S [1]  1/13
reports [2]  9/7 59/25
repository [1]  10/23
represent [2]  44/1 54/10
represented [1]  53/3
represents [4]  26/12 27/4
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request [1]  100/8
requests [1]  78/15
require [1]  40/8
required [2]  10/13 39/14
rereview [1]  5/25
research [1]  46/22
residence [9]  34/22 85/9
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respect [1]  94/3
respectfully [1]  6/9
response [1]  9/9
responsibilities [1]  42/10
responsibility [1]  42/11
rest [1]  68/22
retained [1]  20/16
rethinking [1]  5/24
review [17]  16/18 19/5 19/16
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reviewed [27]  17/22 19/17
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reviewing [1]  19/10
Richard [10]  1/9 5/20 33/7
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Richard's [1]  33/21
right [107] 
rights [1]  50/11
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upon [3]  5/25 28/5 63/4
us [8]  2/9 20/24 26/10 40/16
 68/16 83/24 85/18 86/4
use [7]  10/18 11/16 29/20
 35/11 74/5 74/6 80/16
used [17]  10/5 27/15 30/23
 35/16 36/3 36/4 36/10 38/4
 51/4 52/8 52/11 52/14 59/9
 80/13 82/7 82/12 109/16
user [1]  50/16
uses [1]  47/14
using [1]  52/7
uttered [1]  82/19
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vague [2]  33/10 37/14
VAHE [6]  3/18 54/10 56/5
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valuables [2]  100/11 100/14
value [1]  6/22
variety [2]  29/11 60/23
various [2]  15/3 17/10
Vaughan [1]  3/7
verb [4]  81/3 82/11 82/11
 82/14
verbal [1]  71/1
verbally [2]  71/11 72/14
verbatim [1]  73/24
verbs [1]  82/1
version [1]  10/15
vertical [1]  53/4
very [9]  13/9 29/3 40/5
 42/14 48/17 54/4 57/22 60/13
 105/11
Victoria [3]  10/6 52/22 53/2
view [1]  6/2
VLA [2]  87/10 91/3
voice [4]  50/24 78/6 78/7
 83/3
VOLUME [1]  1/16
voluminous [2]  15/10 20/17
Voyage [17]  54/13 54/16
 54/19 56/4 56/11 56/17 57/6
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W
wait [2]  108/18 108/18
waiting [1]  71/7
wandering [1]  98/15
want [17]  11/6 14/6 15/13
 27/19 29/1 37/25 38/1 38/14
 43/15 43/17 60/10 61/15
 63/11 68/16 80/1 90/21 91/2
wanted [6]  5/9 8/1 67/24
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wants [4]  6/3 6/19 77/8
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warrant [6]  84/23 85/3 89/20
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warrants [3]  84/7 84/11
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was [166] 
Washington [2]  2/10 2/23
wasn't [5]  11/1 19/1 19/4
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watch [13]  5/12 7/16 11/17
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watches [3]  105/13 106/1
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way [8]  6/2 15/17 23/7 27/25
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ways [2]  10/11 80/6
we [79] 
WEDNESDAY [1]  5/1
well [36]  6/25 8/5 9/21 11/6
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Wells [2]  53/10 54/21
went [6]  17/17 19/2 19/20
 56/7 57/6 58/1
were [71] 
weren't [2]  47/18 58/17
West [3]  1/22 2/14 3/8
WESTERN [1]  1/2
what [138] 
whatever [4]  27/15 29/1
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when [32]  10/24 11/2 13/20
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where [29]  6/21 7/15 7/18
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 29/25 38/9 38/11 41/13 50/3
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whereas [1]  9/4
whether [10]  14/12 14/21
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which [27]  6/18 9/2 9/15
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while [2]  23/8 33/6
who [19]  5/19 8/6 21/18
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why [8]  37/11 37/21 39/21
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will [39]  5/13 6/4 6/7 7/8
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Williams [2]  3/4 3/7
WILSON [1]  1/3
wipe [3]  82/2 82/3 82/4
wire [3]  41/19 51/15 51/23
wires [5]  50/19 50/22 51/19
 51/22 51/23
Wirsching [1]  3/12
wishes [1]  21/25
withdrawals [2]  51/12 51/14
within [6]  12/21 15/16 36/19
 48/15 52/6 58/1
witness [33]  4/3 8/4 11/8
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witness' [7]  21/22 23/10
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witness's [1]  28/22
word [35]  7/25 63/13 71/8
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words [10]  22/4 32/4 35/15
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work [16]  18/20 29/12 29/15
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 72/12 83/24 95/17
worked [5]  29/23 42/20 72/16
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working [4]  32/8 42/24 63/11
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worth [1]  7/10
would [70] 
wouldn't [1]  32/4
writes [2]  41/18 94/14
writing [1]  72/12
written [7]  10/13 10/16
 59/24 66/20 66/25 94/20 96/8
Y
yeah [3]  29/14 29/24 83/2
years [12]  9/3 9/7 10/21
 17/6 18/19 42/20 70/4 70/6
 70/22 72/3 84/5 84/9
Yerevan [2]  70/20 71/17
yes [277] 
yes-or-no [2]  15/24 39/22
yesterday [7]  12/25 30/22
 34/12 36/15 42/23 45/2 45/16
yet [2]  23/23 75/1
York [2]  2/10 2/18
you [574] 
your [168] 
yourself [2]  24/6 72/6
Z
Zhadko [9]  17/15 36/24 37/3
 37/7 39/11 53/15 53/18 53/23
 54/3
zoom [2]  89/9 90/25
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