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Transcript filed as to Defendant Richard Ayvazyan, Artur Ayvazyan — USA v. Ayvazyan et al. (Dkt. 671, C.D. Cal.)
Filed July 9, 2021 in USA v. Ayvazyan et al.; one of 233 filings from this case.
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| Court | U.S. District Court for the Central District of California |
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| Filed | 2021-07-09 |
U.S. District Court for the Central District of California · No. 2:20-cr-00579-SVW · Doc. 671 · 2021-07-09 · Docket on CourtListener
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA - WESTERN DIVISION
HONORABLE STEPHEN V. WILSON
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE PRESIDING
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United States of America,
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PLAINTIFF, )
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VS. ) NO. CR 20-579 SVW
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Richard Ayvazyan, et al.,
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DEFENDANT, )
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REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA
JURY TRIAL - DAY ONE
VOLUME 1 of 1
TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 2021
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KATIE E. THIBODEAUX, CSR 9858
U.S. Official Court Reporter
Suite 4311
350 West 1st Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012
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APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
ON BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFF, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
BY: CATHERINE SUN AHN, AUSA
-and- SCOTT PAETTY, AUSA
312 North Spring Street
Twelfth Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90012
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Christopher Fenton
US Department of Justice
1400 New York Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530
FOR DEFENDANT R. AYVAZYAN:
Ashwin J. Ram
Steptoe and Johnson LLP
633 West 5th Street
Suite 1900
Los Angeles, CA 90071
Meghan Newcomer
Steptoe and Johnson LLP
1114 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036
Michael A. Keough
Steptoe and Johnson LLP
1 Market Street
Spear Tower Suite 3900
San Francisco, CA 94105
Nicholas P. Silverman
Steptoe and Johnson LLP
1330 Connecticut Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20036
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APPEARANCES (Cont'd):
FOR DEFENDANT TERABELIAN:
John Lewis Littrell
Bienert Katzman Littrell Williams LLP
903 Calle Amanecer
Suite 350
San Clemente, CA 92673
Ryan Vaughan Fraser
Bienert Katzman Littrell Williams LLP
601 West 5th Street
Suite 720
Los Angeles, CA 90071
FOR DEFENDANT ARTUR AYVAZYAN:
Jennifer J. Wirsching
1935 Alpha Road
Suite 216
Glendale, CA 91208
Thomas A. Mesereau, Jr.
Mesereau Law Group
10100 Santa Monica Boulevard
Suite 300
Los Angeles, CA 90067
FOR DEFENDANT VAHE DADYAN:
Peter Johnson
Law Office of Peter Johnson
409 North Pacific Coast Highway
Suite 651
Redondo Beach, CA 90277
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WITNESS NAME PAGE
(None.)
EXHIBIT I.D. IN EVID.
(None.)
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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA; TUESDAY, JUNE 15, 2021
9:31 A.M.
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(The following proceedings were held outside the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE CLERK: Calling item 1, CR 20-579-SVW, United
States of America versus Richard Ayvazyan, Marietta
Terabelian, Artur Ayvazian, Tamara Dadyan and Vahe
Dadyan.
Counsel, please state your appearances.
Please be seated. Come to order.
MR. PAETTY: Good morning, your Honor. Scott
Paetty for the United States. At counsel table is
assistant United States attorney Catherine Ahn, DOJ trial
attorney Christopher Fenton and Geffrey Clark, special
agent with the IRS.
MR. RAM: Good morning, your Honor. Ashwin Ram on
behalf of defendant Richard Ayvazyan who is present in
court, and I am joined by co-counsel Michael Keough.
MR. MESEREAU: Good morning, your Honor. Thomas
Mesereau representing Mr. Artur Ayvazian, who is present.
MR. LITTRELL: Good morning, your Honor. John
Littrell and Ryan Fraser for Mary Terabelian.
MR. JOHNSON: Good morning, your Honor. Peter
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Johnson on behalf of Vahe Dadyan, who is present, and
also assisted by my assistant Jonah Payetta.
Your Honor, in the beginning I noticed that --
I didn't note it before, but I would ask the Court to
advise the jury that my client is being assisted by an
interpreter. I don't want the appearance that a person
is speaking to him during the entire time just so that
they know what is going on.
THE COURT: All right. I am happy that I can see
you all. I brought my glasses. I didn't realize you
were all so good looking.
THE CLERK: Your Honor, there is a live feed now
between here and the assembly room. So if you wanted the
panel to know that, they know it now.
THE COURT: I guess I'd better be careful about
what I say.
All right. We are here and we discussed how
we are going to proceed.
There is a live feed. So I am not going to
say much more. I think we should get the jury panel or
parts of it here. I understand that we are going to get
32 jurors; is that right?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: And then go from there to the next 32.
THE CLERK: Yes.
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(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: I am going to make a very brief
statement to all the prospective jurors just to give you
at one time some general information about the case.
What I am saying is certainly not evidence. There is no
evidence. It is just my attempt to give you a very
shorthand assessment of what the case involves.
If I say something that ultimately turns out
not to be so, it is my error and not the lawyers'. But I
wanted to give you some general notion of what the case
involves, and I will do that very briefly.
There were two loan programs set up by the
Small Business Administration during the COVID pandemic.
The programs were called the Paycheck Protection Program
and the Economic Injury Disaster Loan Program, sometimes
referred to as the EIDL program.
The central allegation in this case is that
the defendants applied for these loans using false
information and false identities and they didn't use the
loans for business purposes.
The defendants deny the charges. The
defendants are presumed to be innocent and the government
has to prove the allegations beyond a reasonable doubt.
(Pause in the proceedings.)
(The following proceedings were held at sidebar
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outside the presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: The previous proceedings were
broadcast by live feed to the jury assembly room.
I was saying that I read that very brief
statement, but I did tell the government they could read
selected parts of the indictment, and it seems like this
would be the right time to do it, because otherwise it
has to be repeated over and over again when 32 more
people come down.
I just wanted to make sure that that was --
what I said is okay.
MR. PAETTY: Yes, your Honor. The government is.
THE COURT: Great. So I am going to tell the jury
that that is going to happen. Okay.
MR. PAETTY: Yes, your Honor.
MR. LITTRELL: I just ask that they be informed
that they are accusations only.
(The following proceedings were held in the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: Members of the jury panel, I am going
to allow the government to read portions of the
indictment to you only for the purpose of giving you a
further view of at least what the government's
allegations are.
The indictment is not evidence. It is only
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the mechanical means by which a criminal case begins in
federal court. It has no significance beyond that.
And with that in mind, I will allow a
representative from the U.S. Attorney's Office to read
the portions of the indictment we discussed yesterday
answer.
MS. AHN: Thank you, your Honor.
What follows are excerpts of the indictment in
this case. Count 1, introductory allegations. At times
relevant to this indictment -- excuse me, first
superseding indictment -- synthetic identities or false
identifies were created using certain personally
identifiable information such as names, dates of birth
and Social Security numbers that typically consisted of a
combination of stolen and fictitious information.
Synthetic identities could be used to create
false business names and entities.
The defendants. Defendant Richard Ayvazyan
was a resident of Encino, California.
Defendant Marietta Terabelian was a resident
of Encino, California.
Defendant Terabelian and defendant Richard
Ayvazyan were married.
Defendant Artur Ayvazyan was a resident of
Encino, California.
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Defendant Artur Ayvazyan and defendant Richard
Ayvazian were brothers.
Defendant Tamara Dadyan was a resident of
Encino, California.
Defendant Tamara Dadyan and defendant Artur
Ayvazian were married.
Defendant Manuk Grigoryan was a resident of
Sun Valley, California.
Defendant Arman Hayrapetyan was a resident of
Glendale, California.
Defendant Edvard Paronyan was a resident of
Granada Hills, California.
Defendant Vahe Dadyan was a resident of
Glendale, California.
The Paycheck Protection Program. The
Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or
CARES Act, was a federal law enacted in or about
March 2020 that was designed to provide emergency
financial assistance to Americans suffering economic harm
as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.
One form of assistance provided by the CARES
Act was the authorization of US taxpayer funds in
forgivable loans to small businesses for job retention
and certain other expenses through a program referred to
as the Paycheck Protection Program, or PPP.
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In order to obtain a PPP loan, a qualifying
business was required to submit a PPP loan application
signed by an authorized representative of the business.
The PPP loan application required the small
business through its authorized representative to
acknowledge the program rules and make certain
affirmative certifications in order to be eligible to
obtain the PPP loan.
One such certification required the applicant
to affirm that, quote, "The PPP loan funds would be used
to retain workers and maintain payroll or make mortgage
interest payments, lease payments and utility payments."
The applicant through its authorized
representative was also required to acknowledge that,
quote, "I understand that if the funds are used for
unauthorized purposes, the federal government may pursue
criminal fraud charges."
In the PPP loan application, the applicant was
required to state, among other things, its, (a), average
monthly payroll expenses, and (b), number of employees.
These figures were used to calculate the
amount of money the small business was eligible to
receive under the PPP.
In addition the applicant was required to
provide documentation showing its payroll expenses.
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A business' PPP loan application was received
and processed in the first instance by a participating
financial institution. If a PPP loan application was
approved, the participating financial institution would
fund the PPP loan using its own monies.
PPP loan proceeds were required to be used by
the business on certain permissible expenses; namely,
payroll costs, interest on mortgages, rent and utilities.
The PPP allowed the interest and principal on
the PPP loan to be entirely forgiven if the business
spent the loan proceeds on these expenses within a
designated period of time and used at least a minimum
amount of the PPP loan proceeds towards payroll expenses.
The Economic Injury Disaster Loan program.
The Economic Injury Disaster Loan program, or EIDL, was a
United States Small Business Administration or SBA
program that provided low-interest financing to small
businesses, renters and homeowners in regions affected by
declared disasters.
The CARES Act authorized the SBA to provide
EIDL loans of up to 2 million dollars to eligible small
businesses experiencing substantial financial disruption
due to the COVID 19 pandemic.
To obtain an EIDL loan, a qualifying business
was required to submit an application to the SBA and
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provide information about the business' operations such
as the number of employees, gross revenues for the
12-month period preceding the disaster, and cost of goods
sold in the 12-month period preceding the disaster.
In the case of EIDL loans for COVID 19 relief,
the 12-month period was the 12-month period from
January 31st, 2019 to January 31st, 2020.
The applicant was also required to certify
that all of the information in the application was true
and correct to the best of the applicant's knowledge.
EIDL loan applications were submitted directly
to the SBA and processed by the agency with support from
a government contractor.
The amount of the loan if the application was
approved was determined based in part on the information
provided by the applicant about employment, revenue and
cost of goods sold, as described in the paragraph above.
Any funds issued under an EIDL loan were
issued directly to the SBA. EIDL loan funds could be
used for payroll expenses, sick leave, production costs
and business obligations such as debts, rent and mortgage
payments.
If the applicant also obtained a loan under
the PPP, the EIDL loan funds could not be used for the
same purpose as the PPP loan funds.
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Relevant lending institutions. Lenders A, B,
C, D, E, G and H were financial institutions insured by
the Federal Deposit Insurance Company, or FDIC, that were
approved SBA lenders of PPP loans.
Lender F was a financial institution that was
an approved SBA lender of PPP loans.
Bank accounts controlled by the defendants.
Banks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 were financial
institutions insured by the FDIC. Defendant Richard
Ayvazyan controlled and/or was a signatory on the
following bank accounts:
A business checking account at bank 1 in the
name of Timeline Transport Incorporated, the Timeline
Transport bank 1 account.
A business checking account at bank 2 in the
name of Inception Ventures Incorporated, the Inception
Ventures bank 2 account.
A business checking account at bank 3 in the
name of Ulia Zhadco DBA Top Quality Contracting, the TQC
bank 3 account.
A business checking account at bank 7 in the
name of Mod Interiors Incorporated, the Mod Interiors
bank 7 account.
A business checking account at bank 5 in the
name of Turing Info Solutions Incorporated, the Turing
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Info bank 5 account.
And a personal checking account at bank 5 in
the name of Ulia Zhadco, the Zhadco bank 5 account.
Defendant Terabelian controlled and/or was a
signatory on the following bank accounts:
(A), a permanent checking account at bank 2 in
the name of defendant Terabelian, the Terabelian bank 2
account.
(B), a business checking account at bank 2 in
the name of Runyan Tax Service Incorporated, the Runyan
Tax bank 2 account.
And (C), the Mod Interiors bank 7 account.
Defendant Artur Ayvazyan controlled and/or was
a signatory on the following bank accounts:
(A), a business checking account at bank 2 in
the name of Allstate Towing & Transport, LLC, the
Allstate Towing bank 2 account.
(B), a business checking account at bank 4 in
the name of Allstate Towing & Transport, LLC, the
Allstate Towing bank 4 account.
And (C), a personal checking account at bank 5
in the name of AD, the initials AD, the AD bank 8
account.
Defendant Tamara Dadyan controlled and/or was
a signatory on the following bank accounts:
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(A), a business checking account at bank 3 in
the name of Secureline Realty & Funding Incorporated, the
Secureline Realty bank 3 account.
(B), a business checking account at bank 5 in
the name of ABC Realty Advisors Incorporated, the ABC
realty bank 5 account.
(C), a business checking account at bank 6 in
the name of Secureline Realty & funding Incorporated, the
Secureline Realty bank 6 account.
And (D), the AD -- the initials AD -- bank 8
account.
Defendant Grigoryan controlled and/or was a
signatory on the following bank accounts:
A business checking account at bank 4 in the
name of G & A Diamonds, the G & A Diamonds bank 4
account.
(B), a business checking account at bank 2 in
the name of Redline Auto Mechanics, the Redline Auto
Mechanics bank 2 account.
And (C), a personal checking account at bank 2
in the name of Anton Kudiamov, the Kudiamov bank 2
account.
Defendant Hayrapetyan controlled and/or was a
signatory on the following bank accounts:
A business checking account at bank 5 in the
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name of Arman Hayrapetyan DBA, the initial S
Construction. The S Construction bank 5 account.
A business checking account at bank 5 in the
name of Arman Hayrapetyan DBA the initial H Construction
Company, with account number ending in 1511, the H
Construction 1511 bank 5 account.
(C), a business checking account at bank 5 in
the name of Arman Hayrapetyan DBA the initial H
Construction Company with an account number ending in
9066, the H Construction 9066 bank 5 account.
And (D), a personal checking account at bank 5
in the name of defendant Hayrapetyan.
Defendant Paronyan controlled and was a
signatory on the following bank accounts:
(A), a business checking account at bank 5 in
the name of Redline Auto Collision, the Redline Auto
Collision bank 5 account.
And (B), a personal checking account at bank 5
in the name of defendant Paronyan, the Paronyan bank 5
account.
Defendant Vahe Dadyan controlled and was a
signatory on the following bank account:
A business checking account at bank 3 in the
name of Voyage Limo, LLC, the Voyage Limo bank 3 account.
The objects of the conspiracy. Beginning no
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later than in or around March 2020 and continuing until
at least August 2020 in Los Angeles County within the
Central District of California and elsewhere, defendants
Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara
Dadyan, Grigoryan Hayrapetyan, Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan
conspired with one another and with others known and
unknown to the grand jury to commit (a) wire fraud and
(b) bank fraud.
The manner and means of the conspiracy. The
objects of the conspiracy were to be carried out and were
carried out in substance as follows.
Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur
Ayvazian, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan
and Vahe Dadyan together with other co-conspirators used
and caused to be used stolen fictitious and synthetic
identities of individuals to submit fraudulent
applications for PPP and EIDL loans.
(B) Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian,
Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan,
Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together with other
co-conspirators used and caused to be used stolen,
fictitious and synthetic business names to submit
fraudulent applications for PPP and EIDL loans.
(C) Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian,
Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan,
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Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together with other
co-conspirators made and caused to be made false
statements to the SBA and financial institutions in
connection with the fraudulent applications for PPP and
EIDL loans including false representations regarding the
number of employees to whom the companies had paid wages
and false certifications that the loans would be used for
permissible business purposes.
(D) Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian,
Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan
Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together with other
co-conspirators electronically submitted and caused to be
submitted false documents to the SBA and financial
institutions in support of the fraudulent PPP and EIDL
loan applications including false or fictitious tax
documents, payroll records, bank records and
identification documents.
Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur
Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan
and Vahe Dadyan together with other co-conspirators
directed the other defendants and their co-conspirators
to deposit PPP and EIDL loan proceeds into bank accounts
that defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur
Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan
and Vahe Dadyan and their co-conspirators controlled.
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(F) Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian,
Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan,
Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together with other
co-conspirators laundered and used the fraudulently
obtained PPP and EIDL loan proceeds for their own
personal benefit and for the benefit of their
co-conspirators, including for expenses prohibited under
the requirements of the PPP and EIDL programs such as the
purchase of residential properties at address 1 in
Tarzana, California, or residential property 1, address 2
in Glendale, California, or residential property 2., and
address 3 in Palm Desert, California, or residential
property 3, gold coins, diamonds, jewelry, luxury
watches, fine imported furnishings, designer handbags and
clothing, cryptocurrency and securities.
(D) Overt acts. On or about the dates
specified in the indictment, in furtherance of the
conspiracy and to accomplish its objects, defendants
Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara
Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan
together with other co-conspirators committed and
willfully caused others to commit the overt acts
specified in the indictment among others within the
Central District of California.
Counts 2 through 12, wire fraud. The scheme
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to defraud. Beginning no later than in or around
March 20 and continuing until at least in or around
August 2020 in Los Angeles County within the Central
District of California and elsewhere, defendants Richard
Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan,
Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together
with others known and unknown to the grand jury knowingly
and with intent to defraud devised, intended to devise
and participated in a scheme to defraud the SBA and
financial institutions and to obtain money and property
by means of material false pretenses, representations and
promises and the concealment of material facts.
Use of the wires. On or about the dates set
forth in the indictment in Los Angeles County within the
Central District of California and elsewhere for the
purpose of executing the above described scheme to
defraud, defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur
Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan
and Vahe Dadyan together with others known and unknown to
the grand jury aiding and abetting each other transmitted
and caused the transmission of items -- excuse me,
transmission of the items specified in Counts 2 through
12 of the indictment by means of wire and radio
communication in interstate and foreign commerce.
Counts 13 through 20. Bank fraud. Beginning
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no later than in or around March 2020 and continuing to
at least in or around August 2020 in Los Angeles County
within the Central District of California and elsewhere,
defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur Ayvazyan,
Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan and Vahe
Dadyan together with others known and unknown to the
grand jury knowingly and with intent to defraud devised,
participated in and executed a scheme to obtain monies,
funds, credits, assets and other property owned by the
custody and control of federally insured financial
institutions by means of material false and fraudulent
pretenses, representations and promises and the
concealment of material facts.
On or about the following dates in Los Angeles
County within the Central District of California and
elsewhere, defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur
Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan
and Vahe Dadyan together with others known and unknown to
the grand jury aiding and abetting each other committed
and willfully caused others to commit the acts specified
in Counts 13 through 20 of the indictment, each of which
constituted an execution of the fraudulent scheme.
Count 26, conspiracy to commit money
laundering. The objects of the conspiracy. Beginning no
later than in or around March 20 and continuing until at
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least in or around October 2020 in Los Angeles County
within the Central District of California and elsewhere,
defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur Ayvazyan,
Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan, Paronyan and Vahe
Dadyan conspired with one another and with others known
and unknown to commit offenses against the United States
in violation of the statute describing conspiracy to
commit money laundering.
To wit, (a), to knowingly conduct and attempt
to conduct a financial transaction involving the proceeds
of specified unlawful activity -- that is, wire fraud and
bank fraud -- knowing that the transaction was designed
in whole and in part to conceal and disguise the nature,
location, source, ownership and control of the proceeds
of specified unlawful activity in violation of United
States Code.
And (b), to knowingly engage and attempt to
engage in monetary transactions and criminally divide
property of a value greater than $10,000, such property
having been derived from a specified unlawful activity.
That is, bank fraud and wire fraud.
The manner and means of the conspiracy. The
objects of the conspiracy were carried out and to be
carried out as follows.
(A) Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian,
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Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan,
Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together with other
co-conspirators submitted and caused the submission of
fraud PPP and EIDL loan applications which caused the SBA
and SBA-approved lenders, including lenders who were
federally insured financial institutions, to wire loan
proceeds to bank accounts in the names of the entities
used to obtain such loans.
Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian, Artur
versus, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan Paronyan
and Vahe Dadyan together with other co-conspirators
transferred and caused the transfer of the loan proceeds,
including in financial transactions of $10,000 or
greater, to secondary accounts under their control,
including in the names of fictitious identities and in
order to conceal the true nature, location, source,
ownership and control of the funds.
(C) Defendants Richard Ayvazyan, Terabelian,
Artur Ayvazyan, Tamara Dadyan, Grigoryan, Hayrapetyan,
Paronyan and Vahe Dadyan together with other
co-conspirators spent the PPP and EIDL fraud proceeds for
their own personal benefit and for the benefit of their
co-conspirators, including for expenses prohibited under
the requirements of the PPP and EIDL programs, such as
the purchase of residential property 1, residential
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property 2, and residential property 3, gold coins,
diamonds, jewelry, luxury watches, fine imported
furnishings, designer handbags and clothing,
cryptocurrency and securities.
Thank you, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. I am going to give you
some estimate of the length of the trial. It is
difficult to say with precision, even though before your
arrival the lawyers and the Court have cooperated a great
deal in resolving many things which will hopefully make
the case go more smoothly, but my best estimate is two
weeks.
Also, regarding the hours of court, we begin
at 9:00 a.m. and proceed to 12 noon, with a short recess
in the morning for 10 minutes or so. And then we have an
hour for lunch and come back at 1 and proceed to 5 and
have a short recess in the afternoon.
I realize that you are all making sacrifices
from your daily lives, personal lives, businesses and so
forth, and I am trying to make the proceedings as
efficient as possible without jeopardizing any party's
right to present their case.
Okay. So we should bring some jurors down
now.
(Court and clerk confer.)
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(Recess from 10:11 a.m. to 10:22 a.m.)
(The following proceedings were held in
the presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE CLERK: Calling item 1, CR 20-579-SVW, United
States of America versus Richard Ayvazyan, et al.
Counsel, please state your appearances. And
please be seated.
MR. PAETTY: Good morning, your Honor. Scott
Paetty for the United States. Present at counsel table,
assistant United States Attorney Catherine Ahn, DOJ trial
attorney Christopher Fenton and special agent Jeffrey
Clark of the IRS.
MR. RAM: Good morning, your Honor. Ashwin Ram on
behalf of Richard Ayvazyan. And I am here with my
colleague Michael Keough.
MR. LITTRELL: Good morning, your Honor. John
Littrell and Ryan Fraser for Marietta Terabelian.
MR. MESEREAU: Good morning, your Honor. Thomas
Mesereau for Artur Ayvazyan, who is present.
MS. WIRSCHING: Good morning, your Honor.
Jennifer Wirsching also for Artur Ayvazyan.
MR. JOHNSON: Good morning, your Honor. Peter
Johnson on behalf of Vahe Dadyan, who is present, and
also with me is Jonah Payetta from my office.
THE COURT: And the person to your client's right
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is translating for your client in the Armenian language?
MR. JOHNSON: Yes. We have an interpreter here
translating from English to Armenian for my client.
THE COURT: Okay. Good morning.
Good morning, members of the jury panel. Can
you all hear me clearly? People in the back row, can you
hear? It is a very long courtroom.
I apologize for spreading you out, but as you
know, it is because of the pandemic and the effort to
maintain safety.
First, let me thank you all for being here.
You responded to the subpoena and your willingness to
serve is appreciated by all the parties.
As you know, without your participation, the
jury system would not be able to function as we know it.
So let me at the outset thank you.
I am going to ask you some questions as a
group before I call 12 people to the jury box.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: We are going to swear you in, if you
would all please stand and be sworn.
(The prospective jury panel was sworn.)
THE CLERK: Thank you. Please be seated.
THE COURT: As I said, I was going to ask you some
questions as a panel first, and since those questions
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will be repetitive, I am going to ask them of you as a
panel first, and then I will have further, more specific
questions for the 12 jurors who are called to the jury
box.
Mr. Cruz has a microphone which he will --
THE CLERK: There are two mikes.
THE COURT: Oh, there are mikes. Okay.
What about the people in the back rows?
THE CLERK: They will have to walk up here, your
Honor.
THE COURT: There is no hand mike?
THE CLERK: Not that I am aware of.
THE COURT: Okay. Well, you will have to make
yourself heard because if I ask question and you have an
answer to the question, would you rise your hand, stand
up, give us your name clearly. That is important to the
lawyers. And then the answer to the question.
So, I will start with this question.
Have you, a family member or a close friend
ever worked for a bank, a lender or other financial
institution as a loan processor?
No hands.
Have you, a family member or a close friend
ever worked for the Small Business Administration,
sometimes known as the SBA?
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No hands.
Has anyone here ever applied for an SBA loan?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Adam Leach.
THE COURT: And you did apply for an SBA loan?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am self-employed
and own two business and have two EIDL loans.
THE COURT: I see. So you have actually applied
for a loan under the programs that are the subject of the
indictment?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Absolutely. Two of them.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi, my name is Lisa
Kaminir, and I have applied for a loan on behalf of a
nonprofit called The Collaborative, a multi-media
repertory company.
THE COURT: And was that with the SBA generally or
with the type of program that was described in the
indictment?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was for the program
that was offered to nonprofits and arts organizations in
Los Angeles.
THE COURT: I see. Thank you.
With regard to those two prospective jurors,
let me ask you another question I should have asked at
the time you were at the mic. But let me ask it again.
Would you identify yourself again, sir.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, your Honor. My name
is Adam Leach.
THE COURT: And was there anything about your
experience with the loans that you applied for which
would make it difficult for you to be fair and impartial
to both sides in this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I guess the only thing I
could think of in that capacity is that the PPP loans did
not work out favorably for either of my businesses. And
I don't know how I would feel about an accusation that
somebody had obtained that loan fraudulently when my
business was unable to obtain that forgivable assistance.
THE COURT: Well, I mean, you are giving us your
mindset. Let me remind you that the function of a juror
is to listen to the evidence objectively and impartially
and make a decision based only on the evidence and the
law as the Court gives it to you.
The question is do you think your experience
would not enable do you that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: As I stated, your Honor,
the only thing that comes to mind in terms of possibly
affecting my ability would be my experience in not
obtaining a favorable result in obtaining the PPP loans.
That is the only thing that could come to mind.
THE COURT: Would that affect your ability to
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listen to the evidence and reach a verdict in favor of
the defendant or the government depending upon the
evidence and the law, or are you saying that this
experience would not enable you to do that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would absolutely be able
to listen to the evidence. The question becomes how will
my experience affect my decision based on what I have
heard.
THE COURT: Well, are you saying that you have
some hesitancy?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Inherently. But I am here
to serve my civic duty if chosen.
THE COURT: The Court appreciates that, but the
parties, both the defendant and the government, want
someone who is not without life's experiences because we
all have life's experiences.
The question is notwithstanding those life
experiences, can you do what is required under your oath
as a juror to reach a verdict based upon the evidence and
the law or do you feel that this experience would not
enable you to do that?
Could you give me a yes or no answer, if you
can?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My answer to you if I had
to give a yes or no answer would be yes, your Honor, with
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the caveat that I am only human.
THE COURT: Well, is there a motion?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: I am going to excuse you, sir.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you very much, your
Honor.
THE COURT: And would you identify yourself again,
ma'am.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Lisa Kaminir.
THE COURT: And you have heard the colloquy I had
with the other juror. I have made my point I think
clear. Could you serve as a fair and impartial juror?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Thank you.
THE CLERK: Hyunjoon, first name Kim. Please take
this seat here where Mr. Leach was before.
THE COURT: I asked some questions. You were
listening to those questions and I take it you responded
or didn't respond appropriately; correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Has anyone here ever applied for a PPP
or EIDL loan other than the juror that I excused and the
juror who told us about the nonprofit?
Yes. Go ahead. Would you identify yourself
again for the record?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Lisa Kaminir. And I
applied as well for a personal PPP loan.
THE COURT: And was there anything about that loan
application or any surrounding circumstance that would
not enable you to be fair and impartial to both sides in
this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't believe so.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
Has anyone here or a family member or close
friend ever been the victim of identify theft or the
unauthorized use of personal information?
Any hands?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Juan Zaragoza.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Peace Takata.
THE COURT: And would you each give your answer?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I was a victim of
identity theft in college. Someone tried to carjack me
in college, and they stole all of our information. They
opened up accounts at health gyms and they ruined my
credit, so right after graduation. It took me two years
to get all that cleaned up.
THE COURT: And in this case there may be some
evidence alleging identity theft. As I questioned
before, would you be able to give both sides a fair trial
in this case notwithstanding the experience you just
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe so.
THE COURT: Thank you. And you, sir?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just identity theft.
Credit. That's pretty much all.
THE COURT: And when you credit, was it a credit
card?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Credit card. Yes.
THE COURT: And same question. Would you still be
able to be fair and impartial to both sides even though
there may be some evidence alleging identity theft in
this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe so. Yes.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is David
Schaeffer. And yes, I had my identity stolen a few years
ago. I believe it happened, it was scanned from a
machine and funds were being taken out of my account and
it took a while to straighten out.
THE COURT: And notwithstanding that experience,
would you still be able to be fair and impartial to both
sides in this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am going to have to say
no.
THE COURT: All right. Then you are excused.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Jennifer
Turkat. I have had my credit card information stolen
several times, and it is always very frustrating and
takes a certain amount of effort to put things back the
way they should be.
I also prosecute identity theft and fraud and
I am trying very hard to put my knowledge aside and
listen to all the evidence.
THE COURT: Well, let me stop you there. Are you
an assistant district attorney, deputy district attorney?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Deputy district attorney.
THE COURT: All right. Is there a motion?
MR. RAM: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. You are excused. Thank you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you, your Honor.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning, your Honor.
My name is Grace Camargo Perez.
THE COURT: One minute. Did you have something
else to say?
MR. RAM: Point of clarification, your Honor. You
excused Ms. Turkat.
THE CLERK: This is a different juror.
THE COURT: Wait a minute now. Isn't this the
juror who said she is a deputy district attorney?
MR. RAM: No, your Honor. She hasn't spoken yet.
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It looked that way because they are wearing masks.
THE COURT: Well, you know something, my
apologies.
MR. JOHNSON: Peter Johnson on behalf of Vahe
Dadyan. If it is comfortable for jurors that we be able
to see their faces, it is very, very difficult to
observe.
THE COURT: All right. If you can, if you feel
comfortable when you speak would you temporarily drop
your masks and so forth?
I'm sorry, ma'am, for being presumptuous.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning, your Honor.
THE COURT: Can you please tell what your
experience was briefly?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I have not personally
been affected by identify theft, but my brother has.
THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And I feel that I could be
objective.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you, ma'am.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning, your Honor.
My name is Christen Huereque and I have been a victim of
identity theft.
THE COURT: And could you be fair and impartial to
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both sides notwithstanding that experience?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I could be fair and
impartial, sir.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You are welcome.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE CLERK: Edgardo Regidor. Please take juror
seat No. 6.
THE COURT: I am going to broaden somewhat the
last question and ask it this way.
Has anyone here been a victim of a fraud of
some kind, not limited to identify theft?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Lisa Kaminir. And my
family has a business where there were high-level
employees who were embezzling funds from that business.
THE COURT: And notwithstanding that experience,
would you be able to be fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think so.
THE COURT: Thank you.
There are a number of potential witnesses in
this case. I don't know all of them, but perhaps I
should ask the United States attorney -- assistant United
States attorney to read the names of the witnesses that
we know of and ask the jury panel if anyone here knows
any of those persons.
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MR. FENTON: The witnesses are Kathleen Littwin,
Mark Zindrosky, Jack Runyan, Briana Fitzgerald, Victoria
Hernandez, Alexander Fard, Pinel Modi, Marylee Robinson,
Shelley Abril, Nicholas Felando, Michael Hart, Theodora
Louissant, Adrian Rosado, Artur Harcopian, Andrew Jaung,
Greg Parra, Tim Massino, Justin Masterman, Madison
McDonald, Katlyn Albert, Spencer Kim, Jeff Clark, Amira
Halum, Anthony Farrer and Debbie Mitschke.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: Anyone here recognize any of those
names?
No hands.
Has anyone here ever worked for a law
enforcement type agency?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning, Judge. My
name is Gil Garcetti. I was a DA of Los Angeles.
THE COURT: I know you, Mr. Garcetti.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I know you do.
THE COURT: And what is your view of things? You
have had more experience than most, but that doesn't mean
you can't be a juror in this case. It is really up to
you, like anyone else.
What is your call?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is probably up to
counsel on both sides, but I feel I can be fair and
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impartial.
THE COURT: All right. Then let them deal with
it. Thank you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You are welcome.
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, may we confer for a
moment?
THE COURT: Yes.
(Defense counsel confer)
MR. MESEREAU: I would like to make a motion, your
Honor.
THE COURT: Regarding the last juror?
MR. MESEREAU: Yes.
THE COURT: I am not going to grant the motion at
this time, but if that juror is seated, I will pursue it
if you wish.
MR. MESEREAU: There is certain information I
would like to give the Court, if I may.
THE COURT: Oh.
(The following proceedings were held at sidebar
outside the presence of the jury:)
MR. MESEREAU: Your Honor, I have met him a number
of occasions. I am not close to him and he has made
statements through the years about defense counsel that
are not favorable.
THE COURT: Oh. I see.
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Well, last time I met him, I remember he was
the head of the fraud section of the district attorney's
office and I was a lowly assistant U.S. attorney, and we
had some common cases, but I guess it would look a little
different after all those years.
I am going to excuse him then.
MR. MESEREAU: Thank you, your Honor.
MR. RAM: Your Honor, may I be heard? If the
Court would inquire as to Mr. Garcetti, he did say he
could be fair and impartial now.
THE COURT: I know, but he is a lawyer who is an
officer of the court who is telling me that he had a
personal experience.
MR. MESEREAU: No, your Honor. I met him a couple
of times. I didn't have a personal experience, but he
did make comments about the OJ Simpson case that I
interpreted as pretty negative towards defense counsel.
THE COURT: If I get into this with him in depth,
it is not going to be a good thing for all the jurors to
hear. I am going to rely on counsel's representation. I
think that is the course.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, I understand the Court's
ruling here. In the situation like that where there is
something sensitive, we could bring the juror up and have
a sidebar with the juror as opposed to doing it in open
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court.
THE COURT: Why? If you want me to -- I mean,
maybe I will let Mr. Mesereau -- is that how you say it?
MR. MESEREAU: Yes.
THE COURT: Let Mr. Mesereau ask questions, see
what happens.
MR. LITTRELL: There is one alternative ground
which may be easier. I think the Court expressed some
familiarity with Mr. Garcetti. My concern is that the
jurors will look to him for answers just because he is
known to the Court.
THE COURT: Well, maybe I shouldn't have said what
I said. But he said he was the DA. That is more than
what we were both in our 20's probably. What
Mr. Mesereau said sounds more to the point.
Mr. Garcetti? Come here, if you would.
Thank you, Mr. Garcetti.
I want to ask you something. Mr. Mesereau has
some concerns so I am going to let him on the record ask
you some questions.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure.
THE COURT: See what happens.
MR. MESEREAU: Mr. Garcetti, we met a few times,
but we didn't associate together socially or anything
like that. I am concerned about some comments you made
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about that I interpreted as pretty negative towards
defense counsel about the OJ Simpson case, about the
Menendez case. The defense part was concerned about
these comments and I am very concerned about what you
could be feeling.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm not quite sure how to
answer that question. I don't remember comments in the
Menendez case about defense counsel. In the OJ Simpson
case, boy, trying to remember if there were specific
comments.
I believe I said that I believed Johnnie
Cochran played to the jury by the use of his tie, things
like that.
MR. MESEREAU: Well, in the Menendez case, as I
recall, you made comments about the defense lawyers
taking the position that the defendants were not
responsible for their actions, that they had mental
concerns. I interpreted that as somewhat negative.
In the Simpson case, I do recall you making
comments about the defense team, how they played the so
called race card. And I interpreted your remarks as
accusing defense counsel as being very disingenuous in
how they conducted their defense.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't recall using that
phrase "played the race card." I don't believe they were
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being disingenuous. I believe they were doing their jobs
as defense lawyers and taking every available means they
can to support their client.
Johnnie Cochran and I were very close friends
and Bob Shapiro and I were close friends. I don't recall
if I had any social ties with any of the others.
MR. MESEREAU: That is all I have to say, your
Honor.
THE COURT: All right.
MR. MESEREAU: We are concerned about fairness.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure. I understand.
THE COURT: I have of course listened and I have
to respect Mr. Garcetti's view of his own -- and he has
had a lot of experience with the system. He knows what
is required. He has responded to your questions.
I am not going to at this point grant the
motion for cause. So you can assure me, Mr. Garcetti,
that you can be like my other jurors or do you think that
other jurors knowing what your prior experience was would
tend to look more to you for guidance and interpretation?
In other words, if you were sitting where they
are, that is as much a concern, more so than actually
than what Mr. Mesereau brought up, because people make
all sorts of comments at different times. It doesn't
always reflect the true state of mind.
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But you have some imprimatur. You were the DA
for a long time, and I do have a little concern. So if I
do excuse you, would you understand it is not because I
don't think you can do the job? Because I think you are
a man of integrity. I have always thought that and I
think you could be fair and impartial. But I think maybe
the better course is to --
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, whatever you want,
Judge. Since we are on the record, I want this clear on
the record. One, I have no doubt I can be fair and
impartial in this case to all the defendants.
No. 2, a prior jury experience might give you
a little light as to the second issue.
THE COURT: Let me rethink it then. Maybe I
jumped to a conclusion.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: While I was district
attorney, I honored a jury subpoena and everyone got a
kick out of it and I knew what was going to happen, get
dismissed. It was a civil case.
And lo and behold, I am called into the box.
And lo and behold, the jury is accepted, and I am
stunned.
The judge, she started laughing and had to
excuse herself. She was laughing so hard because she
never expected that. It was an easy case. It was a
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lemon law case.
We went into the jury room and the jury wanted
to make me for foreman, I said, No. 1, I won't be
foreman. No. 2, you are not going to hear from me until
everyone has spoken, and maybe I will say something.
THE COURT: Was that a civil case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Civil. A little
different, but they wanted to make me foreperson. So
whatever it is, whatever you rule is fine. I am not
going to take it personally.
THE COURT: I don't think anyone means it
personally. I have great respect for you. So, I am
going to go with my feeling. I am going to excuse you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. That is fine.
THE COURT: But thank you very much. Nice to see
you. And nice to hear about your son's success. You
better learn to speak Chinese.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Indian. Urdu. But he did
take in his freshman year -- he did take Urdu. Why, I
will never know.
THE COURT: One of my law clerks is -- in fact I
have had a number of Indian law clerks several years ago.
I had a -- and a woman, and then I had a guy. And years
ago I had a very observant Indian law clerk. And my
present law clerk is of Indian descent. So if your son
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needs an aide-de-camp down the road --
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We will give you a call.
THE COURT: Good to see you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you too.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, if I may? After some of
the members of the panel have stated in response to your
Honor's question "I believe so" or "I think so" when it
relates to being fair and impartial, I would just request
that the Court follow up for a definitive "yes" or "no."
THE COURT: I tell you what. If they are in the
jury box, you made notes of those people. You can remind
me then. I am just trying to get sort of a first cut.
MR. PAETTY: Understood.
THE COURT: I have many more questions when they
sit as jurors in the box. This is the panel as a whole.
MR. PAETTY: Okay, thank you.
(The following proceedings were held in the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: In this case, you may hear from people
who are with law enforcement offices. Does anyone here
have a bias against a witness who works for a law
enforcement office?
And if a law enforcement officer does testify,
they are not entitled to any special significance. Their
testimony should be considered just like any other
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witness.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Miriam Santana. My family
has been personally impacted by police brutality.
THE COURT: Your family has been what?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: Would you put your mask down a little
bit?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't feel comfortable.
THE COURT: Then keep it on. Go ahead.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My family has been
personally impacted by police brutality, and I have very
strong feelings about police officers. It is something
that I am trying to work through but I have yet to
resolve that.
THE COURT: I see. Well, this case doesn't
involve police officers in the sense that you are
describing. They are agents with law enforcement offices
like IRS, FBI, things like that. Would your answer still
be the same?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. No.
THE COURT: Could you listen to those people who
aren't -- you know, beat law enforcement officers fairly
and objectively?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I will do my best. Yes.
THE COURT: Well, can you?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, may we have a brief
moment at sidebar?
THE COURT: No. When I say no, no is no. You
don't have to do a slow crawl to the seat.
MR. PAETTY: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: I am going to ask a question now
that -- I hope I phrase it the right way, but it is
something I have to ask.
The defendants in this case are all of
Armenian descent. And I have a question in that regard.
Does anyone here have any bias against people of Armenian
descent?
In other words, have you had the experience or
otherwise that would lead you to view Armenian people
unfavorably?
No.
THE CLERK: No hands, your Honor.
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, may I follow up on that
to ask it in a different way?
THE COURT: Quickly go to the sidebar.
(The following proceedings were held
outside the presence of the prospective jury:)
MR. LITTRELL: No juror is going to admit to being
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biased against people of Armenian descent.
THE COURT: Well, what should I say, I thought the
way you put it was somewhat hurtful to your cause. I
mean, you say there has been a publicity about Armenian
people and frauds. Why would you want to do that?
I mean, do you want me to ask that?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, I do, your Honor. The reason
is that so if people have feelings they will express
them. I don't want them to hide.
THE COURT: Well, if someone read about Armenian
people, people of Armenian descent, they would be
thinking about the subject of crimes. To me, absent
something more that wouldn't disqualify them.
MR. LITTRELL: But it may well be that people
have --
THE COURT: Maybe you just want to know that
because you want to know for a peremptory challenge too.
MR. LITTRELL: Exactly.
THE COURT: That it is relevant not only for cause
but for peremptory challenge.
MR. LITTRELL: That's right. It is not just
explicit bias but implicit bias.
MR. JOHNSON: And that may be a better way.
MR. RAM: That is the way I would phrase it,
thoughts and feelings.
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THE COURT: Have you read or heard about news
reports of Armenians being involved with criminal
activity.
MR. LITTRELL: And fraud specifically. And do you
have feelings or thoughts about that.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, if I may, I meant no
disrespect when I said to the Court -- I just wanted to
apprise the Court that defense has made a motion to call
a LAPD officer, so there may be some intersection in this
case.
THE COURT: Well, I remember that now. A
detective. Who made that motion? You did.
MR. RAM: We requested that he be available.
THE COURT: As far as I remember, this detective,
his participation, to my knowledge, was with one of the
surgeons. So why are you calling him?
MR. RAM: He is the lead detective on the state's
case, your Honor, involving some of the same defendants,
some of the same identities and some of the same
entities.
THE COURT: So what is the reason for calling him?
MR. RAM: Different reasons, your Honor. Do I
need to get into it in front of the prosecution now?
THE COURT: Well, you don't have to now. But you
are saying that he is more than just -- you are calling
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him for a reason other than just the fact that he was
involved in the investigation?
MR. RAM: Correct.
(The following proceedings were held in the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: With regard to that last juror, I am
informed that there may be one officer, a detective from
the LAPD, who may be a witness in this case, but the
testimony will not involve anything like what you have
described.
I didn't include that in my prior question to
you, but if I now include that, would your answer be the
same about your ability to be fair and impartial or would
it be different?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know. I don't
know.
THE COURT: You have some doubt?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have some doubt.
THE COURT: All right. Then I will excuse you.
Now, with that prior question -- this is to
the jury panel as a group -- when I asked about the
defendants being of Armenian descent, let me ask if
anyone here has heard or read reports of other Armenian
people being involved in fraudulent activity in news
reports or elsewhere.
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Okay. No hands.
As with all the instructions that I will
deliver to you at the appropriate time, you are
duty-bound to follow those instructions, but how you
perceive and evaluate the evidence, that is a matter
solely for you if you are selected as a juror.
Now, with regard to the law, one of the
instructions may be, and I can't tell you for sure, but
it may be that a defendant has a right not to testify.
And if a defendant exercises that right, no adverse
inference can be drawn from it.
If I give that instruction, would you all be
able to follow it?
No hands.
All right. Just one moment, here.
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, this is Peter Johnson on
behalf of Vahe Dadyan. Forgive me. I just wanted the
Court to just revise that last question because I did
not -- when the Court asked would you all be able to
follow it, I didn't see any raises of hands or any
response of yes.
So I just wanted the Court to if there is
maybe just at least some symbol in the Court that each
individual --
THE COURT: Well, I am looking at the jury panel,
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and I have instructed them to raise their hand. Mr. Cruz
and I are looking closely. I saw no hands raised. So
that is the answer.
MR. JOHNSON: Understood.
THE COURT: Does anyone here have any feeling
about lawyers who work as prosecutors or lawyers who work
as defense lawyers that would not make it possible for
you to be fair and impartial to both sides?
All right. Then I am going to call 12 jurors
to the jury box and then I will ask you further
questions.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 1 is Claudia Vargas,
V-A-R-G-A-S.
Juror No. 2 --
THE COURT: One second. One second. Let me get
organized here.
THE COURT: Now, Juror No. 1?
THE CLERK: Is Ms. Claudia Vargas, V-A-R-G-A-S.
THE COURT: And when you are called raise your
hand so I can see because I have a schematic here and I
am trying to follow it. It is not the usual procedure.
Thank you, Ms. Vargas.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 2, William Diaz Brown.
Juror No. 3, Chad Wilson.
Juror No. 4, Valerie Reyes.
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THE COURT: Okay.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 5, Quintana Ambrose.
THE COURT: One minute, Paul. I saw a hand go up,
but on my chart when I look at you is my chart to the
right or left?
THE CLERK: Right.
THE COURT: So where is that last juror,
Ms. Ambrose? Oh, I see. Okay.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 6 is Edgardo Regidor,
R-E-G-I-D-O-R.
THE COURT: One minute, Paul. You said juror
No. 6?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor. That was because a
juror by the name of Schaeffer was dismissed for cause.
THE COURT: I see. But what about the names
between that and Regidor?
THE CLERK: You also dismissed Mr. Adam Leach for
cause.
THE COURT: And Josephine Chia?
THE CLERK: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: Josephine Chia.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: Okay. So juror No. 6 is Mr. Regidor.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 7 is Lisa Kaminir.
THE COURT: Now, would that juror raise their hand
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so I can see where they are?
Thank you.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 8 is Hyunjoon, last name
Kim, K-I-M. Juror No. 8.
THE COURT: I see, Juror No. 8.
Ms. Kaminir, where are you again? Okay.
And that is Juror No. 8?
THE CLERK: Yes, is Mr. Kim.
THE COURT: You know, I hate to make this more
complicated than it is, but on my chart, Paul,
Ms. Kaminir is over there; right?
THE CLERK: Whoever created the chart didn't line
them up as the chairs exactly sit in court.
THE COURT: I see. So I will just put the names
in the boxes and forget about the physical location. I
have been trying to match them, but I am going to forget
that. I am just going to hear the name, put it in the
box and go from there.
THE CLERK: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. This is a difficult chart.
Go ahead.
So that would be No. 8 is who again?
THE CLERK: No. 8 is Mr. Kim.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.
THE CLERK: And No. 9 is Josephine Chia.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And it is Chia, like
"chai."
THE CLERK: No. 10 is Gladys Lars.
THE COURT: One minute, Paul. Go a little slower.
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
No. 9 is Josephine Chia.
Juror No. 10, Gladys Lars, L-A-R-S.
Juror No. 11, Imani Calloway, C-A-L-L-O-W-A-Y.
And Juror No. 12 is Marta Roberts.
THE COURT: One minute, Paul. Juror No. 11 was
who?
THE CLERK: Juror No. 11 is Imani Calloway. Juror
No. 12 is Marta Roberts.
THE COURT: Okay. I am now going to direct the
questions to those 12 jurors only. And I will begin with
juror No. 1, Ms. Vargas.
How should we do this. Should the juror
approach the microphone?
Yes. Approach the microphone, if you would,
ma'am. This is all more cumbersome than unusual because
the pandemic, but I appreciate everyone's cooperation.
Ms. Vargas, I am going to ask you some
questions.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your occupation?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a preemployment
background adjudicator.
THE COURT: I see. And who was your employer?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Parsons Corporation.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: As an alternate many years
ago.
THE COURT: But you didn't deliberate; correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
THE COURT: I see. And I am going to ask this
question, and if anyone has an answer that they would
feel more comfortable giving at sidebar, I will of course
respect that, but have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Has any family member been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Distant family. I don't
really know those family members.
THE COURT: I see. What generally is your
educational background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
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background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
THE COURT: I see. And do you know of any reason
that would prevent from you being fair and impartial to
both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. You may be seated. Thank
you, Ms. Vargas.
Now, I will do the questioning of Juror No. 2,
Mr. Diaz Brown. And what is your occupation, sir?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a teacher.
THE COURT: And where are you a teacher?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I teach elementary school
in Long Beach Unified School District and I teach history
at three different community colleges.
THE COURT: I see. And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is an engineer for
UPS.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I have three
children.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One of them is employed as
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a nanny.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever been convicted of or
arrested for a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was arrested and
convicted for misdemeanor, disturbing the peace when I
was 18 years old.
THE COURT: Other than that, that was the only
incident; correct.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
THE COURT: The same question with regard to a
family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had a brother who served
prison time for DUI's.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
Juror No. 3, Mr. Wilson. What is your
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am an installation
technician.
THE COURT: And who is your employer?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hazard Reduction Systems.
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THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's
degree.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
And now Juror No. 4 would be Ms. Reyes.
What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am self-employed. I
clean houses.
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I haven't.
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THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I went to high school, and
then I went to trade school.
THE COURT: Go ahead, I'm sorry.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sorry. Trade school for
esthetician to get my license.
THE COURT: I see. Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, but my dad has because
he had a warrant.
THE COURT: I see. Can you tell us, if you wish,
what the crime was.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: What happened?
THE COURT: Can you tell us what the crime was?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He had a warrant and so
they took him. I don't know what warrant he had.
THE COURT: You don't know what the warrant was
for?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. For. Yes.
THE COURT: I see. And did he serve prison time?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, he did.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
Juror No. 5, that would be Ms. -- I hope I say
it correctly -- Chia. Is that right, Chia?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am No. 9.
THE CLERK: Juror No. 5 is Ambrose, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. I got that. I'm sorry about
that. Ms. Ambrose. That will be Ms. Ambrose. Yes. Let
me put my glasses on. Maybe it will be better if I put
my glasses on.
Ms. Ambrose, what is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work for a forensic
psychologist, typing up his reports.
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
THE COURT: And what is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is retired. He was a
journeyman lineman for PG&E.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Twenty-three, 24, I was
arrested for selling alcohol to a minor.
THE COURT: Same question with regard to a family
member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh yeah. My sister and
her daughter, drugs.
THE COURT: I see. Did they serve prison
sentences?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My niece did. Well,
lengthy jail sentences.
THE COURT: I see. Do you know of any reason that
would prevent you from being fair and impartial to both
sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
That was Ms. Ambrose. So now it's Mr.
Regidor; correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: How do I say it?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Would you pronounce your name again?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Edgardo Regidor.
THE COURT: Regidor. I'm sorry. I am going to
write it phonetically. Okay. And what is your
occupation, sir?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a registered nurse.
THE COURT: And where are you employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: LAC+USC Medical Center.
THE COURT: Where?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: LAC+USC Medical Center.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Registered nurse too.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Was it in this court, which is the
federal court, or was it the state court, the superior
court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Federal court.
THE COURT: And was it a civil or criminal case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal.
THE COURT: And did the jury reach a verdict?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor degree.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
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THE COURT: Same question with regard to a family
member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't think so.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
Just to follow up Mr. Regidor for a minute,
and to make it clearer for the jury panel, too. You
know, there are no things certain metaphysically in this
world, but when I ask can you be fair and impartial to
both sides, you have to be firm in your view that you
can.
Are you firm in your view that you can?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: All right. You may be seated.
Ms. Kaminir. Did I say it correctly?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kaminir. Emphasis on the
last syllable.
THE COURT: Okay. I am going to do that
phonetically too. Kaminir. Ms. Kaminir, what is your
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am an actor.
THE COURT: And in what medium?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Television.
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THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I play lawyers.
THE COURT: I see. You play lawyers.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Pretty much. Yes.
THE COURT: Well, that is a good lead-in for me to
tell you that although I think this trial will be
interesting, it will be nothing like a TV law show where
it will be with five commercials and some other stuff.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That is abundantly clear.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am.
THE COURT: And what is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is a psychotherapist.
THE COURT: I see. Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What types of jobs?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My daughter is a food
stylist.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: In this courthouse or the state court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: State court.
THE COURT: And was it a civil or criminal case?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal.
THE COURT: Did the jury reach a verdict?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's
degree.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
Okay. The next juror is Mr. Kim.
Mr. Kim, what is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a logistics
specialist.
THE COURT: And who is your employer?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Department of Defense.
THE COURT: Without too much elaboration, can you
just tell us what type of work you do?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is property group
management. We have some property along the West Coast.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, your Honor.
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THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A bachelor's degree, your
Honor.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Same question with a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Is there any reason why you couldn't
be fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you.
Ms. Chia.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Ms. Chia. Like Starbucks
chai.
THE COURT: What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a teacher.
THE COURT: And where are you a teacher?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In Arcadia Unified.
THE COURT: And what level do you teach?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I teach fourth graders.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is also a teacher.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. They are too little.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a master's.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason -- have you
ever been arrested or convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question with a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you, Ms. Chia.
Mr. Lars.
THE CLERK: Gladys Lars.
THE COURT: Ms. Lars.
What is your occupation, ma'am?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a director.
THE COURT: And can you be a little more specific?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure. I am a director at
Kaiser Permanente on the health plan side of the
business.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is a sales engineer.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do. I have a daughter.
Graduated college.
THE COURT: And is she employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is.
THE COURT: What is her job?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a health care
consultant for a small boutique firm outside of Boston.
THE COURT: I see. Have you ever served on a
jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Was it this courthouse or the state
court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: State court.
THE COURT: Was it a civil or criminal case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal case.
THE COURT: Did the jury reach a verdict?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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THE COURT: What is your educational background
generally?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's and an
MBA.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you about from being fair and impartial to both
sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
Next is Calloway. Ms. Calloway. What is your
occupation, ma'am?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a salesperson at
Nordstrom.
THE COURT: At where?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: At Nordstrom.
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
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background.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have my associate's,
working on my bachelor's.
THE COURT: I see. And what course of study are
you pursuing?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Business.
THE COURT: I see. Have you ever been arrested
oar convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question, family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had a cousin who served
time for being a pimp.
THE COURT: I see. Do you know of any reason that
would prevent from you being fair and impartial to both
sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
The next is Roberts. Ms. Roberts. Yes. What
is your occupation, ma'am?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a nanny.
THE COURT: And are you a nanny with a specific
household?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I work in a house.
THE COURT: One family?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One family, yes.
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THE COURT: And you live with that family?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: You just come and go.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't have any.
THE COURT: I see. And have you ever been
arrested or convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Is there any reason why you couldn't
be fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know what it
means, impartial. Can you explain that to me?
THE COURT: I see. What is your native language?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Spanish.
THE COURT: I see. And when you are at home,
and -- do you live with other people or just yourself.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just myself.
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THE COURT: But you have friends and other people
you talk to; correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And what language do you speak with
them?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Spanish.
THE COURT: And when work as a nanny, do you speak
in that household in the English language or the Spanish
language?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A little bit of English
and more Spanish.
THE COURT: I see. Can you read English?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A little bit.
THE COURT: I am inclined to think this juror, as
willing as she is to serve, has a language disability.
Is there any comment?
MR. LITTRELL: I respectfully disagree. I think
this juror is able to communicate in English well enough
to serve as a juror.
THE COURT: Well, think that she asked the
question what is impartiality, and that is a very basic
question. I mean, that is a phrase that isn't
complicated. And based upon her answers, it is my view
that -- did you have any education early on?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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THE COURT: What is your native country?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Belize.
THE COURT: And when did you -- how old were you
when you came here from Belize?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I came here when I was 28,
I believe -- 21. But I never went to school.
THE COURT: I see. And in Belize of course you
spoke exclusively in Spanish?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Spanish.
THE COURT: I am going to find this juror is
willing to serve, and the Court appreciates that, but
based upon my questioning and her answers doesn't have
the adequate fluency in English to follow the evidence in
this case.
Thank you very much for being here. You are
excused.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MR. LITTRELL: Just to be clear, we object, your
Honor.
THE COURT: You don't have to say that. I mean,
understood.
THE CLERK: Peace Takata, T-A-K-A-T-A. Please
take jury seat No. 12.
THE COURT: Takata. Where is Takata?
Oh. Come forward, please.
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And what is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a teacher.
THE COURT: And where are you a teacher?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Torrance Unified School
District.
THE COURT: What subject do you teach?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Reading intervention.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is in corporate
accounting for a bank.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. They are too young.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a master's degree.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for family members.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
Your Honor, you had asked a question earlier
and I was only thinking about my husband working at a
bank. And I forgot that my sister-in-law is a loan
analyst for the same bank.
THE COURT: What bank is that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: City National Bank.
THE COURT: I see. Well, thank you for your
answer.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't think so.
THE COURT: All right.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think I could be fair.
THE COURT: You have to be firm in your answer.
You can't guess. Like I said -- the best way I can put
it is are you firm in your view that you can be fair?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
So, now the first challenge would be with the
government.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government would like
to thank and excuse Juror No. 4, Ms. Reyes.
THE COURT: Thank you, Ms. Reyes. You are
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THE CLERK: Timothy Lam, please take jury seat
No. 4, L-A-M.
THE COURT: Mr. Lam, Juror No. 4. Would you go to
the lectern, please? The microphone.
What is your occupation, sir?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a letter carrier for
City of Los Angeles.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I do.
THE COURT: And what is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a homemaker.
THE COURT: I see. You have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I do.
THE COURT: Are they young children living at
home?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have two adult. Well,
they both -- the youngest one is 18 and the oldest one is
21. The older one is enrolled at University of -- he is
a college student at University of Northridge.
THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And the young one is just
graduate from high school.
THE COURT: I see. Have you ever served on a
jury?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. That was back in
1992.
THE COURT: Was it in this courthouse -- well,
this courthouse didn't exist, but federal court or the
state court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The state court.
THE COURT: And was it a civil or criminal case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal, DUI case.
THE COURT: You don't have to tell me any more
than just the answer.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sorry.
THE COURT: And did the jury reach a result?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Did they reach a verdict?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your educational book ground
generally?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I graduate from --
complete high school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for family members.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
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prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir. Next challenge is
with the defendant.
MR. LITTRELL: May we have a moment?
THE COURT: Yes.
(Defense counsel confer.)
(The following proceedings were held at sidebar
outside the presence of the prospective jurors:)
MR. RAM: If we pass are we --
THE COURT: A pass is a challenge.
MR. RAM: It counts as one but we can go back and
challenge?
THE COURT: If you pass on one round and then you
decide, well, I want that person off, you can do it.
MR. RAM: Okay. Understood.
THE COURT: Understand.
MR. RAM: It just counts as one of our 10.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, if both parties pass is
the jury pool constituted?
THE COURT: That is a challenge. Both parties
have exercised a challenge.
MR. PAETTY: It then continues?
THE COURT: We just continue on.
MR. LITTRELL: I believe there is Ninth Circuit
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case law suggesting that you can use challenges by
passing.
THE COURT: But that's Ninth Circuit case law. I
remember it deals with what happens at the end of the
jury selection process; right?
MR. LITTRELL: Right.
THE COURT: In other words, if someone has passed,
passed, passed, if it is some configuration of that
dynamic, isn't what I just said there is no case law
unless you bring it to my attention that says that
passing on an early round doesn't institute a challenge?
MR. LITTRELL: I think that case stands for that
proposition. I will brief it for the court.
THE COURT: Well, make sure you tell me. My
recollection and, you know, I can't catalog every case.
They keep coming down with cases. But the last case I
read dealt with this was a specific situation where there
was the last round or two, maybe the last round of
passing. If there are some new wrinkles, let me know.
MR. LITTRELL: I will look into it.
(The following proceedings were held in the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. RAM: Your Honor, the defense would like to
thank and excuse Juror No. 9.
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THE COURT: Juror No. 9 is Ms. Chia.
Okay. Thank you, Ms. Chia.
It is the noon hour and I am going to call a
recess so you can grab a bite of lunch. I hope to
reconvene at about 1:00 o'clock, but I have some matters
to take up over the lunch hour, so perhaps you should be
back here for sure by 1:15.
Don't discuss the case or any of the questions
if you have a lunch with another juror, prospective
juror, and when you come back, if you can remember, would
you all be seated in the same place if you can remember
where you are.
You know, just come back and take the same
seat that you are in now, if you can make a note of that.
(The following proceedings were held outside the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: All right. We haven't made that much
progress. In my experience with selecting jurors in
criminal trials it usually goes more quickly, but we are
in unusual circumstances with the pandemic and the like,
so we will just have to keep at it.
We will come back at 1:15.
Okay. Thank you.
(Luncheon recess from 11:59 to 1:44 p.m.)
(The following proceedings were held in the
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presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: Mr. Littrell.
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Why don't you take the lecturn because
you seem to be the person for this issue.
Oh. There are jurors here, aren't there.
Sorry about that. Could the jurors indulge me, and I
don't mean to inconvenience you. Could you all please
remember where you are, step out for about 5 or 10
minutes?
Thank you. I appreciate that.
(The following proceedings were held outside the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: You may be seated. Mr. Littrell, I
did consider what you said just as we were breaking about
the passing and constituting a challenge, and I must
confess with the passing of time there is a little rust,
but the Yepiz case, is that the case you are thinking of?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: And in that case, it would appear to
me that your position is correct and that passing for
cause does not constitute a challenge.
What the Yepiz case seems to be unclear about
is whether you can go back when you exercise your
remaining challenges and challenge a juror that you
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previously accepted.
And there is language which suggests you
can't, but it is not as clear as it might be. My concern
with the whole idea of a pass not constituting a
challenge is that at some point one party or the other
can sort of accumulate all these challenges and then at
some point, perhaps when the other side has exhausted
their challenge, I mean, theoretically, you could in
effect exercise all your challenges.
I guess that would be your position, and then
when eight new people come up, you are stuck with them
because you have no more challenges.
Do you follow what I am saying?
MR. LITTRELL: I think the analysis in Yepiz was
each side gets the allotted number of peremptory
challenges and they can use them whenever they choose so
long as both sides don't pass in a row.
If each party accepts the panel, then we are
done. But so long as that doesn't happen, you can
continue to use peremptory strikes or save them. And I
think it applies to jurors that are in the box at the
time you are striking or jurors that are not in the box.
THE COURT: Well, that is the part that isn't
clear, but what I suggested just by way -- there are no
jurors here, are there?
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What I suggested was just, you know, a
possibility. I haven't seen it actually happen but, I
mean, let's take the most extreme example and see how it
plays out.
Let's say that we go into the process, and
round one the government exercised a peremptory and you
pass. Round two, you pass, government exercises their
peremptory, and so forth, to round 6.
Now the government has exhausted its
peremptories, and you, the way I'm understanding the case
and your thought process, is that you have 10 remaining
peremptories; correct?
MR. LITTRELL: That's correct, your Honor.
THE COURT: And so at that point, you could
exercise those peremptories how? At one time.
MR. LITTRELL: Yes. That's correct, your Honor.
THE COURT: Is there any case law that supports
that?
MR. LITTRELL: I think the Yepiz case supports
that, and can say I have experienced that before. I've
seen it happen. My only response is that that is
available to each side, and it is a risky strategy
because if you pass and the other side passes, you lose
all those strikes, and so the risk is sort of even.
THE COURT: And I guess the real risk is that you
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could exercise all those challenges and then eight people
come up who could be just worse than the ones you
challenge from your standpoint.
MR. LITTRELL: That is also true.
THE COURT: And if they pass the for cause
challenge, then that is the jury.
MR. LITTRELL: That's correct.
THE COURT: I see. What does the government have
to say about that? That is a fair reading of the Yepiz
case.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government has no
objection.
THE COURT: All right. Then that is the way we
will do it. I apologize for not being clearer or more
accurate. But I am glad you brought up the question at
this point.
MR. LITTRELL: I had to look it up too. I forgot
most of that also.
THE COURT: Well, there is language in that case
which could be clearer. But so be it.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Littrell, for
saving the day. I don't know if you are going to regret
that or not. Sometimes the best thoughts are left
unsaid.
But I am glad you did that, and you helped
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everybody.
All right. So everyone knows what we are
going to do. What time is it now. We are behind
schedule aren't we?
THE CLERK: It is nearly 2.
THE COURT: Two o'clock. Well, I am not going to
let time be the sole motivator here, but let's keep this
moving if we can.
Okay. Ask those people to come back.
(The following proceedings were held outside the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE COURT: All right. Thank you, members of the
jury panel, for your indulgence. Where were we at the
break? Was it the defense turn?
THE CLERK: The defendants thanked and excused
Juror No. 9, which was Ms. Chia.
THE COURT: Okay, that's where we are. So we are
going to call another juror now.
Okay, good.
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor. Orlando Almader,
A-L-M-A-D-E-R. Please approach the microphone and then
afterwards take juror seat No. 9.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello, my name is Armando
Almader.
THE COURT: Where do you live, sir?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Excuse me?
THE COURT: What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work for Los Angeles
County Public Works. I am a construction supervisor.
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I haven't.
THE COURT: What is your educational background,
just generally.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I have not.
THE COURT: Same with family members.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had one family member, a
cousin that served time for a DUI.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
So now it is the government; right?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government would
thank and excuse Juror No. 5, Mr. Ambrose.
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THE COURT: Five is Ambrose; right.
THE CLERK: Juan Zaragoza, Z-A-R-A-G-O-Z-A.
Please approach the microphone and take jury seat No. 5.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Juan Zaragoza.
THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Zaragoza, what is your
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Facilities manager.
THE COURT: And who is your employer?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: [Inaudible.]
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Physical therapist.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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THE COURT: Same question for family.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a brother that is
incarcerated.
THE COURT: And can you tell, if you wish, what
crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Personal identity.
THE COURT: I see. And there may be some mention
of that in this case. Would your brother's experience
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think so.
THE COURT: You think it would?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It will. It will mess
with me. I mean, I have a brother incarcerated for the
same reason that we are here.
THE COURT: So can you tell me what you mean by
that? Can you be fair and impartial to both sides or is
your brother's experience --
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Mixed emotions about it, I
guess.
THE COURT: Mixed what?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Mixed emotions just having
someone incarcerated for something like that.
THE COURT: So are you saying that you -- it would
be difficult for you to be fair and impartial?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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THE COURT: I see. Motion?
MR. PAETTY: Yes, your Honor. Motion from the
government.
THE COURT: Okay. Any opposition to that?
MR. LITTRELL: May we have a moment, your Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, could we ask the court
to just probe a little bit?
THE COURT: I will. I think you are right. Let
me ask you, when you said mixed emotions, would the fact
that your brother was convicted of identify theft and is
serving a jail sentencing make it more likely that you
would find for the government or the defense?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The defense.
THE COURT: I see. All right. The motion is
granted. You are excused, sir. Thank you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE CLERK: Uriel Juarez, J-U-A-R-E-Z, please
approach the lecturn.
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, I beg your pardon, but
I think if he said that it would be more difficult for
him to be fair to the defense, but he did not say he
would not be fair. So I would object to that strike and
ask you to follow up a little bit.
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THE COURT: All right. Where is he. Can you get
that juror?
I think he answered the question. I really
do.
MR. LITTRELL: The Court has expressed an interest
in getting a clear, definitive answer about whether
jurors could be fair, and I am not sure we got that from
this juror.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, if I may, I think we did.
THE COURT: I think we did. He said -- just to
clarify, Mr. --
MR. PAETTY: Zaragoza.
THE COURT: Mr. Zaragoza, I am understanding your
response to the Court's questions to mean that because of
the experience your brother's experience, you couldn't be
fair in this case; correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's correct.
THE COURT: All right. Then you are excused.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE CLERK: Uriel Juarez, J-U-A-R-E-Z.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Uriel Juarez.
THE COURT: What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work in construction.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Can you tell us what crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: DUI.
THE COURT: And how long ago was that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two years ago.
THE COURT: I see. Did you receive a custodial
sentence?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know -- same question with
regard to family members.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. DUI with my brother.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you, Mr. Juarez.
Next challenge is with the defendant.
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, just for -- okay. Thank
you.
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MR. LITTRELL: May we have a moment, your Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. RAM: Your Honor, we would like to thank and
excuse Juror No. 3.
THE COURT: No. 3., that would be Mr. Wilson; is
that correct?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Excused?
THE CLERK: Yes. You are excused.
THE CLERK: Isabel Bobadilla, B-O-B-A-D-I-L-L-A.
Please step forward.
THE COURT: Where are you employed, ma'am?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am employed for Optum
Medical.
THE COURT: What do you do?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a licensed vocational
nurse.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I am not.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Trade.
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THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Same question for family members.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I have a couple of
family members.
THE COURT: Can you mention the crimes, if you
wish?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Possession.
THE COURT: I see. Do you know of any reason that
would prevent you from being fair and impartial to both
sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Are you sure?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I did have an
experience with my ex-husband in the past for tax evasion
and fraud.
THE COURT: So are you saying that your ex-husband
was charged with tax evasion?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And was it a criminal case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe so.
THE COURT: And was he your husband at the time or
had you been divorced then?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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THE COURT: You had been divorced then?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Divorced after.
THE COURT: You were still married then.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And then is there anything about that
experience which would prevent from you being fair and
impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Can you tell us briefly what it might
be?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I just didn't agree with
the --
THE COURT: You didn't agree with the prosecution?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: I see. And are you telling me that on
that basis you couldn't be fair to both the government
and the defense?
You can answer any way you want. I am not
here to tell you how to answer.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: You couldn't be. All right. You are
excused.
THE CLERK: Grace Perez, P-E-R-E-Z, please
approach.
THE COURT: What is your occupation?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am an administrative
assistant for a business manager at a community college.
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I am not.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have not.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's and
some grad school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am. Next challenge is
with the defendant.
MR. RAM: Your Honor, the defense would like to
thank and excuse juror No. 8.
THE COURT: Mr. Kim.
THE CLERK: Gloria Hernandez, H-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z,
please step forward.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Gloria Hernandez.
THE COURT: Yes, ma'am. What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Unemployed.
THE COURT: And what do you do when you do work?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: What do I do?
THE COURT: Yes. What type of work do you do?
You said you are unemployed now.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What type of work do you do when you
are employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work at a fast food
restaurant.
THE COURT: I see. And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A bachelor's.
THE COURT: And what field of study?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: English.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for a family member.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am. Next challenge is
with the -- is that the government now?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Government.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government would
thank and excuse Juror No. 5, Mr. Juarez.
THE CLERK: Julissa, and I will spell the last
name, E-S-P-E-J-O-D-E-L-G-A-D-O.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Julissa Espejodelgado.
THE COURT: What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a student and a
cashier.
THE COURT: And where are you a student?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: At CSUN.
THE COURT: Where?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Cal State Northridge.
THE COURT: And what are you studying?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Psychology.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, a couple.
THE COURT: Can you tell us generally what type of
crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Possession, DUI and
invasion.
THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And fraud.
THE COURT: What was the last one?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fraud.
THE COURT: Do you know what kind of fraud?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Credit card fraud.
THE COURT: And which family member was involved
in that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: An aunt and an uncle.
THE COURT: I see. And would the fact that they
were involved in that kind of fraud prevent from you
being fair and impartial to both sides in this case?
THE DEFENDANT: It is still an open investigation.
THE COURT: I am having trouble hearing you. I'm
sorry.
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is still an open
investigation.
THE COURT: I see. But I mean the question really
is since some matters like that may arise here, would you
be able to address the facts in this case based upon the
evidence as you see it or do you think you would be
influenced by this investigation of your aunt and uncle?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would probably be
influenced a little bit.
THE COURT: And in which way would you be
influenced?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: What do you mean?
THE COURT: I mean, would it influence you to
favor one side or the other?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know. Probably
yes.
THE COURT: Well, let me ask it a different way.
In order to be a juror in this case, you have to
represent to the Court that you firmly believe that you
can be fair and impartial and evaluating the evidence and
that you will follow the law as I give it to you.
Could you do that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think I would personally
be affected. Yes.
THE COURT: I am not hearing you, ma'am, I'm
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sorry.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think I would personally
put my personal life on this type of case.
THE COURT: I am -- can everybody else hear her?
I can't hear her. Can anyone tell me what she said?
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, I believe the witness
said at that her personal life would affect her
evaluation of the facts in this case.
THE COURT: Is there a motion?
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, before motions I would
just ask that the Court address the same question to this
juror as others, which is can you be fair and impartial.
THE COURT: Can you be fair and impartial in this
case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: You are excused. Thank you.
THE CLERK: Brandon Dancel, D-A-N-C-E-L.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yes, sir. What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Full-time student at CSUN.
THE COURT: And what are you studying?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: English.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever been on a jury?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Was it in this federal court or was it
the state court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: State court.
THE COURT: Was it a civil or criminal case or
both?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Civil.
THE COURT: And in that case, did the jury reach a
verdict.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason why you
couldn't be fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Personally for me,
when it comes to contractual obligations, you break a
contract, I feel there should be repercussions and
consequences.
THE COURT: I mean, that is partially answering
the question. The issue really isn't that as you put it
on that broad a basis. I mean, the question really is
given the evidence in this case, has the government
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proven the charges.
And if you are a juror you have to listen to
both sides and evaluate the evidence under the law as I
give it to you.
Can you do that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Personally, I cannot
because I heard about this when you guys were going over
the case. I already had like a predetermined judgment
already in mind.
THE COURT: That means you are telling me you
can't be fair and impartial, is that it?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Is there a motion?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. The motion is granted.
Thank you.
THE CLERK: Rebecca McGilley, M-C-G-I-L-L-E-Y.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good afternoon, your
Honor. McGilley.
THE COURT: And what is your occupation, ma'am?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a director for a
government engagement.
THE COURT: Can you be more specific?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: ICANN. It is an Internet
company for assigned names and numbers.
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THE COURT: I see. And what is your position
there?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Director for government
engagement.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Security manager at
Netflix.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Master's.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same for family members.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had an uncle and I think
it was assault.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
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prevent from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
THE CLERK: Please take jury seat No. 5 on the
left.
THE COURT: Next challenge is with the government.
THE CLERK: I have the defendant. Oh, yes. You
are right.
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. RAM: Your Honor, while we are here may we
have a brief sidebar?
MR. LITTRELL: Just ask him now.
MR. RAM: On Juror No. 12, just a follow-up based
on her family's employment.
Juror No. 12 indicated that a family member
was a loan analyst and another family member worked at a
bank. Just a follow-up inquiry whether that may affect
her ability to be impartial in this case given the
expected testimony.
THE COURT: Juror No. 12 was Takata; correct?
Let me just ask you a few more questions. You
mentioned in some of your answers that I think two of
your family members had something to do with banks, one
was -- tell me what they were again.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband is the
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assistant corporate controller for City National Bank.
And my sister-in-law is a loan analyst for City National
Bank in the Beverly Hills office.
THE COURT: As you heard before, some of the
evidence in this case involves the allegation that banks
were affected by some of the alleged charges. Would that
prevent you from being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, to be honest, I
mean, what -- my husband had to go through a lot of those
meetings to discuss like how they were going to do the
accounting part for the loan program. We had discussions
about how difficult it would be to prevent fraud because
it was rolling out so quickly.
So to be perfectly honest, I do -- I have
concerns about it.
THE COURT: I see. So maybe I was remiss by not
asking you more questions earlier, but now that I have, I
will ask you the same question I asked you before.
In light of what you just said, can you be
fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would try, but I would
be more inclined to favor the prosecution.
THE COURT: I see. Is there a motion?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: The motion is granted.
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Thank you, ma'am. You are excused.
THE CLERK: Anthea Orlando. Please step forward.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Anthea Orlando.
THE COURT: Good afternoon. What is your
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Licensed marriage
therapist.
THE COURT: And are you self-employed.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. And then I was
working for Better Health, but I quit recently.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is semiretired, but he
is a landlord for a couple of units, apartment units.
THE COURT: I see. Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever been on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What generally is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a master's in
clinical psychology.
THE COURT: And have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same with a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband, he has had a
couple of DUI's from like over 15 years ago.
THE COURT: I see. Can you be fair and impartial?
Do you know of any reason that would prevent from you
being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE COURT: Next challenge is defendant.
MR. LITTRELL: May I have a moment, your Honor.
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. RAM: Your Honor, the defense accepts the
panel as currently constituted.
THE COURT: Okay. Actually you have two
challenges in a row. You can exercise the second one.
The way I am understanding it is this would have been
your -- you accepted the jury panel on the fourth
challenge, and now we are going to the fifth challenge.
MR. LITTRELL: That's correct, your Honor. We
have excused three jurors.
THE COURT: That is correct, but what I am saying
now you excused three jurors and you are at your fourth
challenge, and --
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MR. RAM: That's correct. We have to pass again.
THE COURT: You passed on that, but then in the
order of things you have a challenge following that, so
what is your position there?
MR. LITTRELL: We also pass on that challenge,
your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Government.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, we would request that the
Court follow up on Juror No. 12 the Court just had a
conversation with that she said that she is a marriage
therapist and a marriage counselor, and there are married
couples in this case who are charged as defendants.
THE COURT: All right. Ms. Orlando.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: You indicated that you are a marriage
counselor.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: In this case, there may be evidence
that there is a marriage relationship between some of the
defendants. And I don't know how to ask the question
without going to a place where I shouldn't you, but just
generally, would those relationships -- in other words,
marriage relationships in a case where let's say both
husband and wife are charged with the same crime, is that
something that would prevent from you being fair and
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impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE COURT: Okay. So the government passed on
what would be four and five. And now we are at the
government.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, just request one
additional followup on that note is to say she is
basically an expert in marital relationships and we would
just query or ask the Court to follow up and see if that
expertise would then essentially inform her view of the
facts.
The concern would be that that would then
become a guiding force in the deliberations.
THE COURT: Well, I think she has answered the
question. How much more can I probe? I asked her the
question, and I am satisfied that is the best I can do at
this point. I am going to let it be.
MR. PAETTY: May I have one moment, your Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government would
request the Court to thank and excuse Juror No. 12.
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THE COURT: Ms. Orlando. Thank you, Ms. Orlando.
MR. FRASER: Your Honor, I would ask the Court to
inquire under Batson.
THE COURT: Regarding whom? With this witness?
MR. FRASER: I think we need Juror No. 12 not to
leave just yet.
THE COURT: Don't leave yet. If we are going do
that, approach at sidebar.
(The following proceedings were held at sidebar
outside the presence of the prospective jury:)
MR. FRASER: Your Honor, as to the prima facie --
the government has now exercised.
THE COURT: I can't see that far. What is her
race?
MR. FRASER: Hispanic.
THE COURT: Orlando Hispanic?
MR. FRASER: The government has now exercised four
peremptory challenges, all of them against people with
apparent Hispanic ancestry.
THE COURT: So how does that -- I mean, I am
understanding the Batson challenge, but why do you think
we are doing that?
MR. FRASER: Well, that is a prima facie showing,
and the burden shifts to the government.
THE COURT: I know that. But why do you think
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they are doing that? I mean Batson applies to more than
just black people.
MR. FRASER: Yes, your Honor. I don't mean to
cast aspersions on the government, but the choices that
they have made reflect the use of ethnic background as a
motivating factor in their peremptories.
THE COURT: But the defendants are Armenian. Why
do you think people of Spanish dissent would be the
motivation? I mean, it helps me to understand the
motivation. I mean, it is not necessary but it just
helps. What is the driving force?
MR. LITTRELL: They may well believe that Hispanic
jurors will be more favorable to them, more sympathetic,
but I think the point is the government has the burden of
explaining it.
MR. RAM: Your Honor, that is not the case here,
your Honor. Race is not a factor here. The last juror
that was concerned about her expertise was a marriage
therapist. That has nothing do with race in a case where
married couples have been accused of crimes.
THE COURT: Look, I can't make an assessment of
the overall choices. Let me just address this immediate
choice. I find that the government has satisfied the
good faith explanation.
There are family, marriage relationships here
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and this person is a therapist. She may have some
insight as to whether one spouse or the other was
dominated or unduly influenced to be guided by the other.
So I think it is certainly a reasonable explanation.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, just for the record too,
I would like to state a couple of other cases which
are -- we have a couple who have, Ms. Ambrose and
Ms. Reyes, I believe had some family members who had been
incarcerated. There are also and Mr. Juarez I believe
has had a DUI and another family member that had a DUI,
there is concern of a substance abuse there.
THE COURT: Okay.
(The following proceedings were held in the
presence of the prospective jurors:)
THE CLERK: Defendant's 6, your Honor.
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, this is Peter Johnson.
I think that the Court should be clear as to whether
Ms. Orlando is excused or not.
THE COURT: She is here. Ms. Orlando, would you
take your seat again so you are in the right spot?
Thank you.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, there may be some
confusion. I believe the government thanked and excused
Ms. Ambrose.
I'm sorry, Ms. Orlando. Excuse me, your
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Honor.
THE COURT: Wait a minute now. Oh, you did. I'm
sorry. Why did you say that? Who made that last
statement?
MR. JOHNSON: I made that.
THE COURT: Why did you do that?
MR. JOHNSON: Because she stayed in the room, your
Honor.
THE COURT: Come on. Do not do that.
Ms. Orlando, you are excused.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All right. Thank you so
much.
MR. JOHNSON: I certainly wasn't intending --
THE COURT: Well, it caused unnecessary confusion.
MR. JOHNSON: I apologize.
THE CLERK: Isaac Diolosa, D-I-O-L-O-S-A, please
step forward.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good afternoon, your
Honor.
THE COURT: Yes. What is your occupation, sir?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a registered nurse.
THE COURT: And where are you employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kaiser Permanente.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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THE COURT: What is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a nurse too.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I have three
daughters.
THE COURT: Are they living at home with you and
your wife?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two are live out and one
is living with me.
THE COURT: And are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, my second daughter
is a nurse too.
THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And the other one is in
San Francisco.
THE COURT: What does that person do? Are they
employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In San Francisco. Yes.
THE COURT: What kind of work?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a -- she works in,
what do you call it. Beauty parlor.
THE COURT: I see. And have you ever served on a
jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What is your educational background?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Bachelor's in nursing.
THE COURT: From what school?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In the Philippines.
THE COURT: I see. And what hospital are you at?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right now I am working at
Kaiser Permanente.
THE COURT: I see. And when you are performing
your nursing functions, do you speak in English or in the
Filipino language.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: English.
THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work in the operating
room.
THE COURT: I see. And you said you have never
been on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, not yet.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was convicted with a
misdemeanor, domestic violence long time ago.
THE COURT: I see. And has anyone in your family
been arrested or convicted?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent from you from being fair and impartial to both
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sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
MR. RAM: Your Honor, I have a disclosure to make.
THE COURT: Can you make it publically?
MR. RAM: I am okay making it publicly.
Mr. Diolosa works at Kaiser Hospital in Pasadena. I
believe my wife occasionally works with him. He has
treated my eight-month-old daughter for her shots. We go
to that hospital.
THE COURT: He is here. Are you saying that --
does he know you?
MR. RAM: I don't know if he recognizes -- I been
with a mask.
THE COURT: Well, then you shouldn't have said
that here. It turns out that one of the lawyers has said
that he may have had some contact with your wife very
casually in her nursing functions.
Would that affect your ability to be fair and
impartial in this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
THE CLERK: Please take jury seat No. 12.
THE COURT: Okay. The next challenge is with the
defendant.
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MR. LITTRELL: May which have a moment, your
Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, we accept this panel as
currently constituted.
THE COURT: Government.
THE CLERK: Your Honor, defendant has two
challenges, 6 and 7.
THE COURT: Did you accept the jury on 6 and 7?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, if we may request just a
brief follow-up. I think Mr. Ram mentioned a
relationship. I think the Court followed up on that.
The only other follow-up is to ask whether
Mr. Diolosa knows Mr. Ram, just to clarify that point.
THE COURT: Mr. Diolosa, have you ever met --
stand up, Mr. Ram. Have you ever met this man before?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't remember.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
It is the government's next challenge.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government accepts
the panel as constituted but would request that the Court
advise Mr. Diolosa not to discuss with his wife Mr. Ram
or the case.
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THE COURT: Mr. Diolosa, did you hear that? In
other words, if you are selected as a juror in this case,
you are instructed not to discuss this case with your
wife.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Can you follow that instruction?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Thank you.
Wait a minute now. Both sides have passed.
MR. LITTRELL: On the 12 pack. Yes, your Honor.
We still need to do alternates.
THE COURT: So we have a jury.
MR. LITTRELL: That's correct. We don't have
alternates.
THE COURT: Yes. All right. Then, let's -- I
think I misspoke earlier. Each side has two
alternates -- two challenges to the four alternates.
So now we will call -- I think we have to get
some more jurors; right?
THE CLERK: The new panel is outside the door, but
we have two jurors from the previous panel.
THE COURT: All right. Let's exhaust them.
THE CLERK: Christen Huereque, please take --
please approach the lecturn. H-U-E-R-E-Q-U-E. You would
be alternate No. 1.
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THE COURT: What is your occupation, sir?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Unemployed.
THE COURT: And what type of work do you do when
you are employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am retired.
THE COURT: I see. And what type of work did you
do when before you retired?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Retired from the Navy.
THE COURT: I see. And were you a career Navy
person?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Explain career.
THE COURT: I mean, were you in the Navy for 20
years?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Twenty-and-a-half
years.
THE COURT: I see. And what was your position
with the Navy?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You mean my job?
THE COURT: Yes. Your job.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was considered a
civilian firefighter in the Navy.
THE COURT: I see. But you were employed by the
Navy as a civilian?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I apologize, Judge. It is
equivalent to civilian fire fighter. So what I did in
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the Navy is equivalent to a civilian firefighter. I
apologize.
THE COURT: I see. Thank you. And are you
married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And what is your spouse's occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is unemployed.
THE COURT: And does she do any particular type of
work when she is employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Are any of your children employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Negative.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Okay. And what generally is your
educational background.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: High school.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Negative.
THE COURT: And same question for a family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am unaware of my wife.
I know she has had some court issues.
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THE COURT: Present?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Present, no. Past, yes.
THE COURT: How much past.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would probably say about
ten years ago.
THE COURT: And do you know what those court
matters involved? Were they criminal or civil matters?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal.
THE COURT: What type of criminal matter was
involved?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: To be honest with you,
Judge, I have never really personally asked her because I
felt that that was not something for me to get into with
her. If she wanted to share it with me, I am sure she
would inform me.
THE COURT: And to your knowledge, was she ever
convicted of that crime.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, she was. She had to
do community service.
THE COURT: I see. Was she convicted of the crime
in state court or federal court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: State.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that -- do
you know of any reason that would prevent from you being
fair and impartial to both sides?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: As I said with the others, you give me
a firm answer.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: You are not giving a firm answer?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I mean are you firmly
convinced that you can be fair and impartial to both
sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I be can be fair and
impartial to both sides.
THE COURT: Thank you.
THE CLERK: Mr. Huereque, please take alternate
seat No. 1 in the last row.
Caroline Kish, K-I-S-H, please step forward.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good afternoon, your
Honor.
THE COURT: And Ms. Kish, what is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a chef.
THE COURT: Actually I don't mean to make any
levity of the seriousness of the situation, but if your
name was slightly changed, it would be more appropriate.
Ms. Quiche instead ever Ms. Kish.
Did you ever think of changing your name?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, but I have been called
that quite a bit.
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THE COURT: In any event, are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What is your educational background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a BFA.
THE COURT: And where are you a chef?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: At Amara Kitchen.
THE COURT: Is that a restaurant?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is. It is a small
cafe.
THE COURT: What is your educational background?
Oh, you said BFA.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a BFA. I also have
an associate's in culinary education.
THE COURT: I see. Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Same question for family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you know of any reason that would
prevent from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, ma'am.
Okay. Bring in the other jurors. We need
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some more jurors.
I am going to call all four alternates before
we exercise challenges. Is that adequate for the
parties?
MR. LITTRELL: Yes, your Honor.
MR. PAETTY: Yes, your Honor.
THE CLERK: Po Tseng, T-S-E-N-G, please approach
the microphone.
And Stephanie Guerrero.
THE COURT: So I will first begin with Ms. Tseng.
What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Office assistant.
THE COURT: And where are you employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: Where are you employed? Who is your
employer? Who do you work for.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am working for marketing
company. The name is Esma Natural Inc. (phon.).
THE COURT: What type of work do they do?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I just help my manager to
do something simple in the office.
THE COURT: When you are at work, what language do
you use?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: When you are at work, what language do
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you speak? Is it English or some other language?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: On the company?
THE COURT: Yes, where you are working.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Mandarin and Spanish.
THE COURT: You speak Spanish and Mandarin?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. A little Spanish.
THE COURT: So are you understanding my question.
I am asking when you are working for this company.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Am I correctly understanding that the
language you speak at work is Mandarin and Spanish?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Is that correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Single.
THE COURT: When you converse with your friends,
what language do you speak in.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Major is Mandarin and
Spanish.
THE COURT: I see. And what is your educational
background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am educated in
University in Argentina.
THE COURT: Where?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Argentina.
THE COURT: Argentina, is that your native
country?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And what did you study there?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Analysis of -- system
analysis.
THE COURT: I see.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Computer.
THE COURT: I have some concerns about your
language ability. This is not to be critical of you.
You have certainly more of a linguist than I am knowing
all these languages. It is just that we have to be
certain that you are hearing and understanding all of the
testimony, all that is being said.
And equally important that if you are chosen
as a juror, when you deliberate you can communicate.
That is, speak to the other jurors in the process.
Are you confident you can do that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry. What?
THE COURT: I am thinking this juror in her
responses to me just is not following any of the
questions. And her answers lead me to think that she is
just willing but not able to be a juror. I am going to
excuse her.
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Ma'am, thank you for your willingness to serve
as a juror. I am going to excuse you. You can leave.
Thank you.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: So alternate 4. I just excused
alternate 3.
THE CLERK: Yes. Ms. Tseng was excused and now
this is -- Ms. Guerrero is No. 4.
THE COURT: Okay. All right.
THE COURT: Ms. Guerrero, this is so hard to
navigate. I didn't see you I'm sorry. So much
plexiglass around here sometimes I can't see beyond it.
What is your occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I work as a bilingual Head
Start family service worker.
THE COURT: And what type of work do they do?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is for the preschool
program -- for the preschool program for the Norwalk La
Mirada School District.
THE COURT: Say that again.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: For the district of La
Mirada.
THE COURT: I see, and what do you do there?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We enroll children into
the preschool program so we let families know if they
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qualify or not.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What is your educational background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have my bachelor' in
arts and psychology.
THE COURT: And have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Any family member?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you, ma'am. You can
be seated.
THE CLERK: Please take alternate seat No. 4.
THE COURT: I know, but shouldn't -- I mean, we
are trying to fill the seat of alternate No. 3, aren't
we?
THE CLERK: I thought you said to call both at the
same time.
THE COURT: No.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: Okay. Let's go to No. 4.
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believe the Court asked Ms. Guerrero if she could be fair
and impartial. I am not sure if I missed that.
THE COURT: Ms. Guerrero, can you be fair and
impartial to both sides in this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Thank you.
THE CLERK: Joya Frank Randall, please step
forward.
THE COURT: Good afternoon. What is your
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a retired probation
officer, supervisor, and I work now as a EEO mediator for
the US Postal Service.
THE COURT: I see. Were you a probation officer
in the federal court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Los Angeles County.
THE COURT: I see. And was that your career?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. And I was medically
retired from there.
THE COURT: I see. And as a probation officer,
you came across many people who committed various crimes;
correct?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
THE COURT: And did some of the crimes that you
served as a probation officer involve fraud allegations?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Probably somewhere along
the line. I had so many different probation cases.
THE COURT: I see. I will get back to that. You
said you weren't married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I am married.
THE COURT: You are. What is your husband's
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is a computer engineer.
THE COURT: And do you have children?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Just a stepdaughter I
shouldn't say just.
THE COURT: Is your stepdaughter employed?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is her job?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She is a designer from --
she does design, home design.
THE COURT: I see. And did I ask, have you ever
served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I haven't.
THE COURT: And your educational background.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a doctorate in
psychology, a master's in psychology and a master's in
leadership -- no, excuse me, human behavior.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Never.
THE COURT: Family member.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not that I -- oh, yes. A
brother.
THE COURT: I see. And can you tell us what
crime, if it is easy for you to say?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: To be honest. I don't
know exactly what the crime was.
THE COURT: Was it recent or in the past?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It has been in the past.
THE COURT: And having served as a probation
officer, you have some familiarity with the criminal
justice system. Would that experience prevent you from
being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't think so. No.
THE COURT: As I said --
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Can I be impartial?
THE COURT: Yes.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, yes, of course.
THE COURT: In other words, the point is you have
to give both sides a fair trial and let the chips fall
where they may. If the facts tend to show -- if the
government doesn't prove its case beyond a reasonable
doubt, than the verdict should be for the defendant.
If the evidence shows that the government has
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proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt, then the
verdict should be for the government under the law as I
give it to you. I mean, can you do that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. You can take juror
seat four.
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, this is Peter Johnson.
I would ask that the Court inquire further. I thought I
herd the juror say that she was medically retired.
THE COURT: Did you say you were medically
retired?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: From the probation
department. Yes.
THE COURT: And I don't want to pry into personal
matters, but is the fact that you are medically
retired -- does it affect your ability to sit as a juror
here?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: And would it be too much of a personal
matter for you to tell us at the sidebar what the basis
of the retirement was or do you want to tell us now?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was because of back
problems.
THE COURT: Back problems. I see. Okay, thank
you.
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MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, Peter Johnson again. I
was just wondering whether the length of the trial would
somehow --
THE COURT: Well, I mean, you may be here for two
weeks and sitting, is that going to be a problem for you?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Not as long as we
have some breaks.
THE COURT: Well, we have breaks. You know, not
every hour. In other words, you can get up and stretch
if you want. In other words, don't have to sit all the
time even when the court is ongoing. If you feel at the
moment you want to stretch that's fine, but we don't have
many breaks. We go pretty hard.
We start, and like I said at the outset, the
10-minute break in the morning and the afternoon. It
isn't arduous but can you do it?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
Okay. Now, what I now remember is that with
regard to these alternates I don't think they were
hearing the questions that I asked before the jurors were
in the box.
In other words, they were certain questions
that the defense proposed and certain questions that the
government proposed.
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So I am now going to address those questions
to the four alternates.
If you have an answer to any question that I
give -- now, Paul, maybe you should get the microphone.
I am going to ask them while they sit there whether they
have an answer. Or maybe they just raise their hand and
stand up.
(Court and clerk confer.)
THE COURT: So alternate 1 and 2 were here when I
asked all the questions earlier, but 3 and 4 were not.
So I am directing these questions to alternates 3 and 4.,
Guerrero and Frank.
As I said earlier, the defendants in this
case, are of Armenian descent. Is there anything about
that heritage or anything about that of what you have
heard or read which would prevent you from being fair and
impartial to them based upon their heritage?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am Stephanie. No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you or any family member worked
for a bank, lender or financial institution?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband does.
THE COURT: What does he do?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He writes code for a
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lending agency.
THE COURT: For who?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: For a lending agency,
PennyMac.
THE COURT: I see. Okay. Thank you. Would his
occupation prevent from you being fair and impartial to
both sides in this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can be fair and
impartial.
THE COURT: Okay. Have either of you worked for
the Small Business Administration, SBA?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you had any experience with a
bank, a lender or financial institution or the SBA that
would affect your ability to be fair and impartial to
both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever applied for a PPP or
EIDL loan? Those are the government loan programs under
the COVID pandemic.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Both said no?
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THE CLERK: Both responded no, your Honor.
THE COURT: And have you been a victim of identity
theft.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Has a family member or close friend
been the victim of identify theft?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My mom has.
THE COURT: And would that experience prevent from
you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am not sure if anyone
has been the victim of that in my family.
THE COURT: I didn't hear that, Paul. What did
she say?
THE CLERK: The potential juror said that she was
unsure if any member of her family had been a victim of
identity theft.
THE COURT: I did ask, I think, whether you had
been arrested or convicted of a crime; correct?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: I see. All right. Then let's
exercise the challenges.
First, I guess it is the government.
MR. PAETTY: I don't believe the alternates have
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heard the witness list.
THE COURT: All right. Then, read that if you
can.
MR. PAETTY: We expect the witnesses in this case
to be Kathleen Littwin, Mark Zindrosky, Jack Runyan,
Briana Fitzgerald, Victoria Hernandez, Alexander Fard,
Pino Modi, Mary Lee Robinson, Shelley Abril, Nicholas
Folando, Michael Hart, Theodora Lasant, Adrian Rosado,
Artur Harcopian, Andrew Jong, Greg Para, Tim Mesino,
Justin Masterman, Madison MacDonald, Kaitlyn Albert,
Spencer Kim, Jeff Clark, Amira Halum, Anthony Farr, and
Debbie Mitchky.
THE COURT: Do those names sound familiar to
alternate 3 or 4?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE CLERK: Both responded no, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Then let's have the
government exercise its first peremptory.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, I believe the Court did
also not read the bias against law enforcement witnesses
question.
THE COURT: I don't think I ever asked that one to
begin with. I am not going to ask that.
Let's go. Exercise the challenge.
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MR. PAETTY: The government is satisfied with the
alternates as constituted, your Honor.
THE COURT: What about the defense?
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, just as a point of
clarification in the seating. I just wanted to make sure
that the alternates are in the correct seat. Alternate
No. 3 should be --
THE COURT: Alternate 3 should be Guerrero.
MR. JOHNSON: I see. Alternate 3 should be
Guerrero.
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. JOHNSON: I apologize.
THE COURT: The reason is there was -- the juror
No. 3 before was Ms. Tseng, and she was excused for
language problem.
MR. RAM: Your Honor, the government would like to
thank and excuse alternate No. 3.
THE CLERK: You are not the government.
MR. RAM: Sorry, defense.
THE COURT: You are excusing who?
MR. RAM: Alternate No. 3. I apologize to the
defense.
MR. LITTRELL: No, no, no, 4.
THE COURT: Alternate No. 3, Ms. Guerrero. Okay.
THE CLERK: I think they are confused and they
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want to excuse No. 4.
MR. RAM: I am doubly wrong, your Honor. I am
with the defense and I am striking alternate No. 4, which
is the --
THE COURT: Frank. Okay. Thank you.
THE CLERK: Ethan Rassoulpour,
R-A-S-S-O-U-L-P-O-U-R, please step forward.
THE COURT: Good afternoon, sir. What is your
occupation?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am a teacher.
THE COURT: And where are you a teacher?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Where?
THE COURT: Yes.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Long Beach School
District.
THE COURT: And what do you teach?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I teach special education
I am an RSP teacher.
THE COURT: I see. Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: What is your educational background?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's in
accounting and my credential in special education,
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mild-mod, mild-severe.
THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Family member?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: And with regard to some of the other
questions I asked regarding the ability to deal fairly
and objectively with all people, I asked a question about
the Armenian decent of the defendants.
Is there anything about the fact that the
defendants are Armenian which would prevent you from
being fair and impartial?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, nothing -- nothing
there.
THE COURT: Well, I mean, can you tell me that
with firmness?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh. Well, I am Persian.
And so like I have heard my father say things about
Armenians, but I don't have any of those kinds of
thoughts myself.
THE COURT: I see. So you hear some things from
your father, but my understanding is that your state of
mind is not like that?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
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THE COURT: Have you ever worked for a bank or a
lending institution?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, when I was going
through college I worked at a bank as a teller.
THE COURT: And what about the family members.
Have they worked for lenders or financial institutions?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no family members.
THE COURT: Have you ever applied for a PPP or an
EIDL loan from the Small Business Administration?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever been the victim of
identity theft.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And can you tell is briefly what --
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Somebody spent money on a
credit card. I disputed it. It got back to me pretty
quick.
THE COURT: And would that experience prevent you
from you being fair and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Can you assure the parties and the
Court if you are chosen as an alternate you can be fair
and impartial to both sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I do would my best.
THE COURT: And do you still you will be able to
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accomplish that.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I mean, I have a
cousin who applied for the PPP loans and he had to
struggle because it was difficult for him to get it, but
I don't have any connection to any of these people in
terms of that.
THE COURT: So as I have said several times, I
can't read anyone's mind. I can just react to was said.
Can you tell me with firmness and assurance that if you
are chosen as a juror, you will listen to the evidence
fairly and objectively and make a decision, no matter
which way the chips fall?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I can do that
absolutely.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
So thank you. You can be seated.
Thank you, sir.
How are we doing. Who is next up here?
THE CLERK: I have the government.
THE COURT: Government. Okay.
MR. PAETTY: Your Honor, the government is
satisfied with the alternates as constituted.
THE COURT: All right. Defendant.
(Defense counsel confer.)
MR. LITTRELL: Your Honor, we would ask the Court
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to please thank and excuse alternate No. 4.
THE COURT: Okay.
THE CLERK: Kira Foltz, F-O-L-T-Z. Please step
forward.
THE COURT: What is your occupation, ma'am?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am an app programmer.
THE COURT: A programmer? And who do you work
for.
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Disney.
THE COURT: Are you married?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Have you ever served on a jury?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Was it in the federal court or the
state court?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Superior.
THE COURT: I see. And was it a civil or criminal
case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal.
THE COURT: Did the jury reach a verdict?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: What is your educational background
generally?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a bachelor's in
film.
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THE COURT: Have you ever been arrested or
convicted of a crime?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Family member?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Can you tell us?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My first cousin has been
in and out of prison my whole life basically.
THE COURT: I see. And would the situation with
your first cousin prevent you from being fair and
impartial in this case?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: I did ask some questions of the
jurors, and you were here to listen, about the question
involving ability to be fair to people of Armenian
descent and whether anyone made any PPP loans or SBA
loans. Did you ever make a PPP or an EIDL loan?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: And can you be fair and impartial to
people of Armenian descent?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Have you ever worked for a bank or a
lending institution?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Any family member?
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THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Can you assure us that if you are
chosen as a juror you will be fair and impartial to both
sides?
THE PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, I did notice some
hesitancy. I would like the Court to inquire further.
THE COURT: I didn't notice any hesitancy. She is
juror alternate No. 4.
MR. JOHNSON: Understood, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
Now we have a jury. So, I am going to ask the
jury, which comprises at this point the 16 people, the 12
and the 4 alternates, to please rise and be sworn.
(The jury panel was sworn.)
THE CLERK: Please rise your right hands.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do you and
each of you solemnly swear that you will well and truly
try the cause now before this court and a true verdict
therein render according to the evidence, so help you
God?
(Jurors respond in the affirmative.)
THE COURT: Thank you. Please be seated.
Okay. What we are going to do now -- it is
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about 3:20 or so. I am going to call a recess for about
10 or 15 minutes. And then you are going to be escorted
to the courtroom in which this trial will occur, and that
is on the 10th floor. Someone will show you where.
We had to do the jury selection here because
of the proximity of the jury department room. But for
the duration of the trial, it will be in a different
courtroom on the 10th floor.
When you get there, I am going to begin the
trial. And the trial will begin with opening statements.
So we will do that until 5:00, and then we will come back
tomorrow morning promptly at 9:00 o'clock.
Promptness is important. I know that in Los
Angeles it is difficult to anticipate traffic, but when
you anticipate not the worst but not the best either -- I
have been noticing that the freeways are less congested
lately but they can surprise you sometimes.
So it is important that once we start the
trial we are all punctual because we can't begin until
you are all here. So if 15 jurors arrive, and one is
tied up, we have to wait. And waiting just makes the
trial unnecessarily longer.
So do your best. We are going to meet shortly
in courtroom 10.
THE CLERK: The panelists --
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THE COURT: If there are any panelists who weren't
selected, please accept the Court's thanks for your
willingness to serve. Would you please report back to
the jury clerk.
(Recess from 3:33 p.m. to 4:03 p.m.)
(The following proceedings were held in the
presence of the jury:)
THE COURT: Members of the jury, I hope that you
are comfortable. We have spread you out according to
requirements to help insure everyone's safety.
And we are now going to begin the trial. The
trial begins with opening statements. The government is
going to make an opening statement. The defense may or
may not. In a criminal case, the defendant has no
obligation to present any evidence. The burden is always
on the government.
Prior to opening statements, I have counseled
the lawyers that the opening statement is a statement and
not an argument. In other words, this is not the time
for any lawyer to argue to you about the case because, at
this point, there is no evidence. There is just the
indictment, and that is just an allegation.
And so I have instructed the lawyers not to
talk about the law. That is for me to give you at the
appropriate time. They can talk about the general
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charges, and they are going to outline what the evidence,
what evidence they will introduce in the case. And it is
just sort of a sketch to help you when the evidence does
come in to follow the evidence a little bit better. That
is its only importance. What the lawyers say is not
evidence, and the evidence comes from the documents and
the testimony of the witness.
Having said that, I am going to invite the
government to give its opening statement.
MS. AHN: Thank you, your Honor.
Ladies and gentlemen, as you heard this
morning, the defendants are charged with conspiring with
one another to fraudulently apply for and obtain loans
through two government programs and then laundering the
money they received. As described in the indictment read
to you this morning, these two programs are the Paycheck
Protection Program and the Economic Injury Disaster Loan
Program or Paycheck Protection Program and EIDL which
were created to provide money to small businesses during
Covid-19.
In essence, the defendants are charged with
agreeing to submit and causing the submission of loan
applications that contained statements that they knew
were false. They are charged with agreeing to take the
money they received as a result of these applications,
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and transferring it between accounts and among themselves
for personal and not business use.
The government intends to prove these charges
through the testimony of witnesses, recordings of
telephone calls, photographs, documents that you will see
including text messages and other evidence some of which
will be summarized in charts that will be presented to
you.
The evidence that the government will present
falls into four general categories:
First, the loan applications at issue in this
case including evidence of how such applications are
submitted and how the information they contain is used by
lenders; second, evidence about the information provided
with those applications and how that information was
false; third, evidence about the connections that link
the defendants to the information that was submitted with
those applications; and, fourth, evidence concerning what
happened to the money obtained as a result of those loan
applications including who received the money and how
that money was used.
The first category is the loan applications.
You will hear from a representative of the United States
Small Business Administration or the SBA who administers
the two loan programs at issue, the PPP and EIDL
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programs, which were funded to help businesses stay open
during Covid-19.
You will hear from witnesses that the SBA and
banks providing these loans asked for certain information
like payroll and other business expenses that they relied
on to determine the amount of money a business applicant
could receive. You will also hear that businesses were
required to use the money they received for their
businesses and not pay for personal expenses.
The second category of evidence is about the
information provided with and on the loan applications at
issue in this case. You will hear and see evidence that
the information submitted with these PPP and EIDL
applications was false. You will hear from witnesses who
will say that they never submitted the PPP and EIDL
applications that have their names and the names of their
businesses on them. You will hear that they never
received the money sent by lenders or the SBA as a result
of those applications.
You will also see applications that contained
IRS tax forms and statements to support the payroll
expenses and taxes that the businesses claimed to have
paid. You will hear that information like the number of
employees, payroll expenses and operational expenses were
used to determine how much money a business could get.
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You will hear from a tax preparer whose name
was used on a tax form submitted with some of the PPP and
EIDL applications at issue, and you will hear him say
that he never prepared that form.
You will also hear from federal and state
employees who will testify that their agencies, agencies
like the IRS and the California Employment Development
Department received and filed records of paid payroll
tax. They will testify that they searched their
respective agencies' files, and their files do not have
records of payroll taxes or of the IRS tax forms that
correspond to the forms that were provided with the PPP
and EIDL applications submitted in this case.
You will also hear and see evidence related to
the individuals in whose names these business loan
applications were submitted. Some of the loan
applications were submitted in defendant's own names like
Richard Ayvazian, Marietta Terabelian and Artur Ayvazian.
Other loans were submitted in the names of foreign
nationals who, according to government records that will
be presented to you during the trial, temporarily visited
the United States and then left years ago.
You will also see records showing the
differences between the official records for these
foreign visits and the information about these persons
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submitted with the loan applications at issue. You will
hear that there are no records of these foreign visitors
visiting or living in the United States at the time
covered by the applications.
You will hear and see that one of those loan
applications was submitted in defendant Marietta
Terabelian's own father's name. You will see an official
death certificate for that father who is no longer living
when the application was submitted and the loan was paid
out in his name.
You will also hear that a number of
applications used a California driver's license to
establish the identity of the named owner of the
business, and these California driver's licenses state a
local residential address as the person's address. A
witness for the California DMV will testify that the DMV
searched its records and you will hear that the
California driver's licenses provided with the
applications do not match records held by the California
DMV. You will hear that for at least one individual, the
driver's license provided with the loan application
identified that person as a man when official records
actually showed the name belongs to a woman.
The third category of evidence is evidence
that connects the EIDL and PPP loan applications at issue
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to these defendants. You will hear from law enforcement
agents who will testify that they found in defendant's
possession numerous physical copies and digital images of
California driver's licenses, Social Security cards,
checks and checkbooks, foreign visas and other documents
in the names of the people and the businesses used in the
charged PPP and EIDL loan applications including the
names of people who left the country years ago.
You will see that there were multiple versions
of a California driver's license bearing the same name
but different photos. You will see that, in defendant
Artur Ayvazian's phone, there were images of handwritten
notes discussing altering a California driver's license.
In defendant Artur Ayvazian's house, there were to-do
lists that included submitting PPP applications in the
names of some of the individuals and businesses that
appear on the applications at issue in this case as well
as misprinted checks for business accounts.
You will hear that agents found, in defendant
Marietta Terabelian's phone, a picture of a handwritten
note containing somebody else's name and Social Security
number along with the name of a business used in some of
the loan applications at issue in this case.
You will also hear that law enforcement
officers found, in defendant Marietta Terabelian's
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possession, a credit card, again, not in her name but in
the name of an individual used in the Paycheck Protection
Program and EIDL applications. More credit cards were
found in the names of individuals and businesses that
were again used to submit PPP and EIDL applications were
found in the possession of her husband, Richard Ayvazian.
You will hear about these items and where they
were found, and you will see those items for yourself.
You will also see text messages found on the phone of
another alleged co-conspirator, Tamara Dadyan, the wife
of Artur Ayvazian and sister-in-law of Richard Ayvazian.
You will see messages sent to a person identified as Rich
New -- that is N-E-W -- that discuss how to alter tax
identification numbers, payroll reports and unfreeze bank
accounts flagged for fraud.
You will see text messages with detailed lists
of personal identifiers, business identifiers and names
not of the defendants that have dates of birth, Social
Security numbers and tax identification numbers belonging
to individuals and businesses used in these PPP and EIDL
applications.
In one exchange, on co-conspirator Tamara
Dadyan's phone, Rich New describes how he decided to,
quote, get rid of everything about one of the names and
businesses used to submit loan applications because that
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person put a fraud alert and knows something is going on.
The fourth category of evidence is evidence
about the money that was obtained through the loan
applications. You will hear and see evidence that the
loan money went to various accounts including accounts in
defendants' names. Some of the money went to accounts in
the names of other people, but the evidence will show
money moving into accounts that, according to the bank
records you will see, were held in the names of
defendants and other members of the conspiracy.
The evidence will show that the money was used
to help purchase multimillion dollar homes, Rolex watches
and gold coins. You will also hear evidence that law
enforcement agents found and seized Rolex watches, gold
coins and other items at the home of defendants Richard
Ayvazian and Marietta Terabelian.
You will also hear on recorded calls that
after being arrested, defendant Marietta Terabelian told
someone that she and Richard Ayvazian had been caught and
asked that person to, quote, clean the house.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have just provided you
a brief overview of the evidence the government expects
to present in this case. At the end of this trial, my
colleague, Christopher Fenton, will have an opportunity
to speak to you again, this time to summarize all the
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evidence presented.
And, at that time, the government will ask you
to return the only verdict consistent with that evidence
which is a verdict of guilty on all counts.
Thank you.
THE COURT: Do any of the defendants wish to make
an opening statement at this time? Defendants can, or
they can reserve.
MS. NEWCOMER: Yes, your Honor.
MS. AHN: Your Honor, if I may, just one
clarification. I said that Richard Ayvazian and Marietta
Terabelian submitted loans in their own names. I meant
to say loans submitted in the names of their relatives.
Thank you, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
All right. We are now going to hear from one
of the defendants.
MS. NEWCOMER: The overwhelming majority of what
you just heard is not in dispute. We are here because
the core of the government's case is a single joint
venture between at least eight defendants involving the
submission of -- involving the submission of fraudulent
PPP loans numbers over 150. In reality, the evidence
will show multiple joint ventures and multiple and
separate schemes not one scheme.
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THE COURT: Could you speak into the microphone.
I am having trouble hearing you.
MS. NEWCOMER: Yes, your Honor. Is this better?
THE COURT: Yes, it is.
MS. NEWCOMER: The government will not be able to
prove that Richard Ayvazian submitted a single loan in
his name. The government will not be able to prove that
Richard Ayvazian submitted a single loan application.
His proverbial fingerprints just aren't there.
My name is Megan Newcomer, and, along with my
co-counsel, Ashwin Ram, Nicholas Silverman and Michael
Keough, we represent the defendant Richard Ayvazian. I
am going to call him Rich.
THE COURT: No. Don't call him Rich. Call him
Mr. Ayvazian or Richard Ayvazian. That goes for
everyone, the government and the defense. People are not
termed in this case by first names. Call everyone by
their proper name.
MS. NEWCOMER: Yes, your Honor.
Richard Ayvazian is on trial with his wife
Marietta Terabelian. You will hear that Richard Ayvazian
and Marietta Terabelian have three children, that Richard
Ayvazian works in the tech industry at a start up
incubator and that Marietta Terabelian stays home and
takes care of their kids and manages their home.
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In their home, Rich manages -- Richard manages
the finances and Marietta handles their children and
their home. You will hear that in the summer of 2020,
the family purchased their dream home in the Valley. The
government alleges that that home was purchased using
funds fraudulently obtained from PPP and EIDL loans, that
they knowingly used those fraudulent funds to purchase
that home.
To understand that fraud, you need to
understand exactly what the government charged in the
indictment. Count 1 of the indictment charges all eight
defendants with a single, unitary joint venture known as
a conspiracy. And Counts 2 through 20 charge that same
unitary joint venture as a scheme to submit money -- I'm
sorry -- to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. I am going
to refer to both the conspiracy and the scheme as the
joint venture.
Now, you are going to hear that some loans
were applied for in defendant's own names. The
government will not be able to show you evidence that
Richard Ayvazian submitted a single loan in his own name.
You are also going to hear about two people
frequently. Their names are Tamara Dadyan and Manuk
Grigorian. Manuk Grigorian and Tamara Dadyan's
proverbial fingertips were all over the identities that
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they used to apply for loans in this case as well as the
loan applications.
The government told you in their opening that
loans were applied for using identities. Some of those
identities are considered synthetic where they marry real
people's information with other information that does not
correspond to those real people.
You are going to hear about three named
synthetic identities: The identity of Victoria Kauichko,
the identity of Ulia Zhadko and the identity of Anton
Kudiamov. The government believes that Richard Ayvazian
operated the Zhadko identity, but, in actuality, Manuk
Grigoryan created the Zhadko identity in 2019, and the
evidence will show that he used that identity well before
PPP loans even began.
The government told you about text messages
between Tamara Dadyan and a phone that was registered to
Ulia Zhadko. The government is going to present to you a
tiny sliver of those text messages in which Tammy refers
to the person on the other end of the phone as Rich.
Based on that tiny sliver of text messages at the
beginning of their investigation, the evidence will show
that the government assumed that Zhadko was Rich and did
not investigate further.
You are going to hear from the lead case agent
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who investigated this case, Agent Justin Palmerton. You
are not going to hear from him during the government's
case. You are going to hear from him when we call him as
a witness so that we can ask him questions about the
shoddy investigation that was conducted into this case.
And the investigation --
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: That is argument. Whether it is
shoddy or otherwise is for the jury. You can describe
the fact that he conducted an investigation, but avoid
coloring it in any argumentative way.
MS. NEWCOMER: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: You can proceed.
MS. NEWCOMER: We will call Justin Palmerton to
ask him about the investigation he conducted into this
case and into the identity of Zhadko. You will hear
evidence that once Agent Palmerton made the connection in
his mind that Rich was Zhadko, he ignored all evidence to
the contrary.
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: That is argument. You are arguing.
And that is a conclusion. That is inappropriate at this
time. Proceed with your opening statement.
MS. NEWCOMER: I will stick to the evidence, your
Honor.
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The evidence will show as the government
already mentioned that agent Palmerton, that identities
were seized from Marietta Terabelian and Richard Ayvazian
in the names of Kauichko and Zhadko. But the evidence
will show that those identities were created by Manuk
Grigoryan and that they were related to a business that
Manuk Grigoryan owned that was related to credit
rehabilitation. The evidence will show that Manuk's
family members lived at the home that was purchased in
Zhadko's name. Only you can decide who controlled the
Zhadko identity.
You will also hear evidence of the Kauichko
and Kudiumov synthetic identities. The Kauichko and
Kudiumov synthetic identities were used to apply for
loans using the Canoga Avenue apartment address, an
apartment that was leased to Manuk Grigoryan. You will
hear evidence that loans applied for in Kauichko and
Kudiumov's names were signed using an IP address where
the subscriber information was Victoria Kauichko at
Canoga Avenue, Manuk's address.
You will hear that the government did a search
of that Canoga Avenue apartment. In that apartment, you
will hear evidence that the government found credit cards
in Manuk's name, blank checks in other people's names and
handwritten notes that had company names and phone
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numbers and other handwritten notes that had people's
names and addresses.
You won't hear evidence -- the government is
not going to present evidence about a long-running state
investigation run by the state of --
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: The objection is sustained at this
time.
MS. NEWCOMER: You will hear evidence when we
present a detective from the State of California who will
tell you about a long-running mortgage fraud
investigation involving many of the same identities at
issue here.
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: I will allow that part of it.
MS. AHN: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: You can describe that.
MS. NEWCOMER: Those overlapping synthetic
identities, Agent Barnes will testify that those
overlapping synthetic identities were investigated for
mortgage fraud, that his investigation did not -- did not
refer to PPP fraud. Through this evidence, you will hear
between the state case and Manuk and Tammy at least three
separate conspiracies.
THE COURT: Please don't refer to people by their
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first name. Manuk Grigoryan and Tammy is Dadyan.
MS. NEWCOMER: Yes, your Honor. Although there
are defendants with the same name which is why I was not
using just the last name.
THE COURT: Use the first and last name.
MS. NEWCOMER: Yes, your Honor.
So because of that evidence from the state
case, you will hear about at least three conspiracies.
The question at this trial is whether these defendants
committed the single joint venture charged in this
federal case.
All eight defendants are also charged with
conspiracy to commit money laundering. That involves
concealing the funds from that single joint venture to
obtain PPP loan fraud. Without the underlying joint
venture, there is no money laundering conspiracy.
You will hear that money went into Marietta
Terabelian's bank account, an account held in her own
name. You will also hear that money went into an account
in Richard Ayvazian's business' name, Inception Ventures.
From those accounts, money was moved into the
escrow account for their home purchase. That home was
purchased in their own names. You will get to decide
whether that is concealment. Richard Ayvazian is also
charged with two counts of aggravated identity theft
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which is posing as somebody else and committing a crime.
But the evidence -- but you will hear evidence
that Richard Ayvazian did not submit the application at
issue for those two counts. The first involves the name
of Mark Zindroski. Mr. Zindroski will testify as the
government told you that he did not apply for a loan in
the name of his company Top Quality Contracting. He will
also tell you that he does not know who applied for that
loan in his company's name.
The evidence will show that Top Quality
Contracting opened a bank account in Mark Zindroski's
name. That somebody opened a bank account in Mark
Zindroski's name for Top Quality Contracting and, from
that account, moved money into an account for Anna
Manukian. She is the aunt of Manuk Grigoryan.
Money from Top Quality Contracting was also
moved into an account for Jobe Construction. The
evidence seized at Manuk Grigoryan's house, that list of
business names and addresses and phone numbers, Jobe
Construction was on that list found at Manuk Grigoryan's
Canoga Avenue apartment. Manuk's proverbial fingerprints
are on those applications.
The second aggravated identity theft counts,
count, charges Richard Ayvazian and Marietta Terabelian
with using the identity of Nazar Terabelian, Mary's
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deceased father to submit a loan application for a
company called Mod Interiors. Mod Interiors is a
business that was owned by Arman Gegigyan(Phon.).
You will hear evidence that Richard Ayvazian
worked for Mod Interiors a few years ago and that he had
a business debit card in Mod Interior's company name.
You will also hear and see evidence that Arman Gegigyan
applied for multiple PPP loans in the name of his company
Mod Interiors. On one of those loans, he used Richard
Ayvazian's personal cell phone number.
The government is going to present evidence
that certain defendants used VPNs in an attempt to mask
their identity. Only you can decide whether someone who
is attempting to mask their identity would then put their
personal cell phone number on a loan application.
The final count that Mr. Ayvazian is charged
with is money laundering while on release. The
government is alleging that after Mr. Richard Ayvazian
was arrested and indicted, after he hired a lawyer and
appeared in this court to plead not guilty, he then
committed another crime.
But, again, the evidence will show that
Richard's fingerprints are not on the transactions at
issue in that crime. The government alleges that a JP
Morgan Chase bank account in Zhadko's name, remember
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that, a Chase bank account in Zhadko's name, transferred
money into a brokerage account which was then transferred
to Coinbase. A Coinbase account was in Zhadko's name and
had been created in January of 2021. From that Coinbase
account, cryptocurrency was purchased.
But the evidence will show that someone else
was controlling Zhadko's Chase bank account, not Richard
Ayvazian. You will hear that a purchase was made at a
Lamps Plus store in California using Zhadko's Chase bank
account on a date when Richard Ayvazian was indisputably
outside of the country.
You will also hear that Ulia Zhadko applied
for a loan using an IP address that was also used to
apply for a loan in the name of Elena Sosunova. The
government's summary witness in their charts that they
talked about will show you that the only connection
between Elena Sosunova and anyone in this case is Anton
Kudiumov, the synthetic identity controlled by Manuk
Grigoryan. Manuk's fingerprints are on these
transactions, not Rich's.
At the end of this trial, after all the
evidence is in, we are going to come before and ask you
to focus on two key issues: Whether the government has
proven the existence of a single joint venture beyond a
reasonable doubt and whether Rich's proverbial fingertips
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are on the identity theft and post-release offenses.
We submit to you that the government will not
have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Richard
Ayvazian committed the crimes charged against him.
Thank you.
THE COURT: Does any other defendant wish to make
an opening statement?
MR. FRASER: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Who is your client, sir?
MR. FRASER: I am Ryan Fraser on behalf of
Marietta Terabelian.
THE COURT: All right. Then, go ahead, sir.
MR. FRASER: Thank you.
And, your Honor, I would ask if my
assistant, Ms. Garcia, could assist me coming up into
this space here.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FRASER: My name is Ryan Fraser.
Just a moment, please.
I am Ryan Fraser. John Littrell and I
represent Marietta Terabelian who is seated at the end of
the table here. As you have heard, this is a case
involving eight different defendants. We ask you to
consider the evidence against our client, Ms. Terabelian,
individually. That is very important because, unlike the
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evidence against other defendants, as to Ms. Terabelian,
she submitted no loan applications. She submitted no
wires. She took on no fake or synthetic identities.
Ms. Terabelian wasn't in on it. It is easy to
mix people up in a case with this many documents, this
many witnesses. Ms. Ahn is a very fine attorney, and
even she had to correct herself at the end of her opening
statement with regard to accusations she made against
Ms. Terabelian.
As I understand her to finish her opening
statement, she alleged that Ms. Terabelian along with
Richard Ayvazian, Ms. Terabelian's husband, submitted
loans in the names of relatives. Ms. Terabelian denies
that allegation, and it will not be proved in this case.
What circumstantial evidence the government
does have related to Ms. Terabelian it has because she is
married to Mr. Ayvazian. She trusted him as his wife.
They share a home life together. They went on vacation
together, but, whereas, Mr. Ayvazian is a businessman,
Ms. Terabelian is a homemaker. She raises their three
kids. It seems old fashioned, but, in their
relationship, the business aspect of life and the
financial decisions are just not part of Ms. Terabelian's
role.
She wasn't in on it, and the government in
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this case I expect they will show you what the evidence
looks like against a defendant who actually is in on a
conspiracy of the type that they have alleged in this
case. And they have already alluded to and I expect you
will see evidence in this conversation that you are going
to see from a cell phone where the excerpts show Rich New
which the government contends to be Richard Ayvazian and
Tammy, and that would be according to the government,
Tamara Dadyan.
For simplicity, as I refer to this, what you
can see now on your screen is an excerpt of some of those
text messages that I submit is telling. You can see the
dates from early June, 2020, and consider what this
evidence shows about Ms. Terabelian in particular.
June 8th, 2020, 10:30 p.m., Rich New: I need
your help with something. Saying shortly thereafter, I
need a female to sign docs, LOL. Tammy, which the
government contends to be Ms. Dadyan: I am here, you
don't need to ask, thanks Aziz.
Mr. Ayvazian needed a woman. It wasn't
going to be Ms. Terabelian. Ms. Terabelian was not going
to be helping. These text messages occur right before
the one wire transfer from the Terabelian Bank of America
account to purchase the home.
They indicate that in this case, Mr. Ayvazian
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was working with Ms. Dadyan, not Ms. Terabelian. He
needed a woman. It couldn't be his wife. You have also
heard about Manuk Grigoryan and the evidence will -- you
will see evidence about him as well. And that includes
his plea agreement that he has signed with the
government. The government has signed this document. So
this is Manuk Grigoryan's statement of his conduct as
well as the government's appraisal of the conduct of --
MS. AHN: Objection.
MR. FRASER: -- of Manuk Grigoryan.
THE COURT: I will reserve a ruling on that.
MR. FRASER: I would like to go through this with
you, and, before going into it, keep in mind that the
government has alleged -- it is my understanding of their
position that they are going to be saying that
Ms. Terabelian was using this fake or synthetic identity
Victoria Kauichko.
So here is what the government says as to
Manuk Grigoryan in that conduct. At co-defendant Richard
Ayvazian's direction, defendant -- and this is the
Grigoryan plea agreement so when it just says
"defendant," that is Manuk Grigoryan.
Grigoryan maintained an apartment located on
Canoga Avenue in Woodland Hills, California which
Grigoryan knew would be fraudulently listed on the loan
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applications as the purported address of the individuals
falsely identified as the owners of the businesses
applying for the PPP and the EIDL loans.
In or about May, 2020, Grigoryan added the
name Victoria Kauichko to the lease for the Canoga
apartment. When he did so, Grigoryan knew Viktoria
Kauichko was a synthetic identity, that is an identity
made up of a combination of real and fake information.
Grigoryan collected mail including any mail addressed to
Viktoria Kauichko and the other names identified as the
business owners on the fraudulent PPP and EIDL loan
applications from the Canoga apartment at co-defendant
Richard Ayvazian's direction.
Manuk Grigoryan was handling, running,
administering the Viktoria Kauichko identity. You don't
see evidence of activity like that by Ms. Terabelian.
You have heard the government allude to a debit card that
was found at the airport in Miami among baggage, and you
will see that Ms. Terabelian was confronted about that
debit card by a Customs and Border Protection officer,
the customs officers who work at the airport for people
coming into the country, found this card and questioned
Ms. Terabelian about it indicating suspicion of
wrongdoing by her in relation to finding this debit card.
Ms. Terabelian was caught off guard by that.
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She stated --
MS. AHN: Objection.
THE COURT: Objection on what ground?
MS. AHN: The characterization of defendant's
mental state, your Honor.
THE COURT: I mean, I don't know. I mean, you
have to, in your opening statement, indicate what the
evidence will be. You have to indicate who if anyone
will testify or how the evidence will come into being. I
mean, that is what the government attempted to do. You
should do that likewise.
In other words, not an opportunity for either
side to point out deficiencies in the government's case.
You can do that after the evidence is in. This is your
opportunity to tell the jury what evidence you expect to
be. You can do that if you intend to develop the
evidence in cross-examination.
MR. FRASER: Yes, your Honor. I do.
THE COURT: Follow that pattern.
MR. FRASER: Yes, your Honor. The CBP officer who
interacted with Ms. Terabelian -- there were two
present -- one of them is an Officer Louissaint, and she
will testify about the finding of this debit card. And
another officer, as I noted, was confronting
Ms. Terabelian with it, and her response was she didn't
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recognize it, and Rich, or her husband, Mr. Ayvazian,
must have put it there. They were traveling together.
That is this one debit card that CBP was
confronting Ms. Terabelian about at the airport. And you
will see evidence of other debit cards that -- or credit
cards, payment cards that were in Richard Ayvazian's
possession, and we got a lot -- thank you. We have got
two halves here of this slide. What you are looking at
on the left side, this large image of a Wells Fargo debit
card with kind of a cherry blossom pattern in the
background and then it says Viktoria Kauichko at the
bottom, that is the debit card that Ms. Terabelian was
confronted about.
But the image that I am showing you is not an
image on Ms. Terabelian's device or anything like that.
That is an image that was on Mr. Ayvazian's phone. The
cards that you see on the right half of the screen here,
these are physical debit cards or payment cards, some of
them might be credit cards, that were in Mr. Ayvazian's
possession at Miami International airport.
You see Ulia Zhadko on I believe three of
them, but then you also see on the right and the second
row the Viktoria Kauichko Bank of America card. So
consider the government's investigation of who was
responsible for that debit card.
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The government has also talked about jail
calls, and, after being arrested at the airport, after
being confronted with the Kauichko debit card,
Ms. Terabelian placed phone calls and they were recorded
and you will hear them in this case. Ms. Terabelian knew
that she was being recorded, and she knew from what
happened to her at Miami International airport that the
officers were accusing her in relation to that Kauichko
debit card.
That is why she said she and Rich had been, as
Ms. Ahn stated, caught. An alternate translation is
apprehended. There is going to be a lot of evidence
about this because this portion of the call was in
Armenian, and there are multiple ways that you could
understand the language that was used. The government is
advocating --
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: Did something happen?
MS. AHN: Yes, your Honor. I made an objection.
THE COURT: I mean, are you telling the jury that
you will be introducing a translator who will differ with
the government's interpretation of that phone call?
MR. FRASER: The government's own translator I
expect will testify that caught is one translation, and
apprehended is another for the word.
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THE COURT: I see. So you intend to develop that
through the government's witness?
MR. FRASER: Correct, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. That is permissible.
MR. FRASER: You have heard the government also
talk about the phrase "clean the house" from the jail
call. That is another phrase that was not uttered in
English, but that is the translation from the
government's interpreter. And you will hear evidence
about the meaning of that and how that translation gets
done.
The government seems to posit that this was
some kind of code. Consider in the phrase "clean the
house," the house that is being referred to is this house
on Topeka Drive. You will hear evidence about that house
and consider whether this plausibly could have worked as
an actual instruction to in some way --
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: What was that?
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: I can't hear you.
MS. AHN: Objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: On what ground?
MS. AHN: Counsel is arguing interpretation of
the --
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THE COURT: Of what? What the address means of
the house?
MS. AHN: I believe the phrase was --
THE COURT: Are you saying that the phone call may
or may not have referred to the Canoga house?
MS. AHN: I believe counsel's point is whether or
not it is plausible that the defendant would have uttered
that language in the way that --
THE COURT: Well, he is telling the jury that
there may be -- so far there is no evidence from either
side, but he is telling the jury that there may be some
examination on the defense's part about what the
interpretation of the phone call was. That is the way I
am interpreting it; is that correct?
MR. FRASER: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. We will see how it goes.
MR. FRASER: So there is that about the evidence
of the house, and that is contextual information for you
to use as the finders of the fact to decide what
Ms. Terabelian's intent was but also whether someone in
that position would intend to give an instruction like
the government implies knowing that she is being recorded
and consider whether you can also consider as contextual
evidence the fact that, what, about two weeks after that,
when the government searched the house that
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Ms. Terabelian lived in, the government contends that it
found significant evidence of this scheme at that house
that Ms. Terabelian lived at and shared with Mr. Ayvazian
and their three children.
So there is a lot of work to be done in
interpreting that jail call and in interpreting other
evidence in the case such as what the government wants to
use from Ms. Terabelian's phone, and you will hear
different evidence about that, evidence I expect about
metadata and contextual information that you will use
about that.
The government also says that Mary must have
been behind the $565,000 wire for the Topeka house. And
I have touched on this, but we are also going to show you
that the money for that wire was funded in her account
within just a few days of the wire being executed.
From other things that the government will
attempt to show Rich was capable -- or Mr. Ayvazian was
capable of, consider whether it is possible that he could
also pass money through Ms. Terabelian's account without
her participation. And consider, as for other use of
funds that the government will apparently try to link to
Ms. Terabelian, will there be video to show that? Will
there be someone who actually sold something to
Ms. Terabelian testifying in this trial from any bank or
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any store where the government claims that dirty money
was being spent? That is very important to consider.
The life that Ms. Terabelian and Mr. Ayvazian
shared together did not include what the government is
charging in this case. Mr. Ayvazian needed the help of a
woman, not Ms. Terabelian. There is no evidence against
Ms. Terabelian like the evidence that the government
expects to submit as to other defendants: No loan
applications, no wires by Ms. Terabelian, no witnesses to
her using a fake or synthetic identity. Ms. Terabelian
wasn't in on it.
I ask you to be independent finders of the
facts and consider the evidence against her individually
and find Ms. Terabelian not guilty.
THE COURT: Okay. I think it is just about
5:00 o'clock; is that right?
THE CLERK: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: And that is the time we recess. There
are other defendants who may wish or not to give opening
statements. We will have to await those until tomorrow
at 9:00 o'clock.
Before you leave, let me give you some
cautionary words.
You are the jurors in this case. It is your
job to decide this case on your own and when you
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deliberate in collaboration with each other to the extent
you can agree. But you should not and you are ordered
not to discuss the case with anyone else at home or
otherwise, and you are not to access any Internet-type
materials that may or may not be available. I know the
way the world works now is people Googling this or Google
that, and that is prohibited.
In other words, any outside sources or
influences are not what the trial commands. It is the
evidence that counts. The lawyers are here to help you
and to help their clients develop the evidence and at the
final argument give you their interpretation of the
evidence. But, ultimately, it is for you to decide what
the evidence is and so those admonitions are crucial.
And you are not to talk to each other about the case
until you have the case for decision. And so keep those
admonitions firmly in mind.
As I said, it is important that we begin
punctually, so try to navigate things to be here a little
before 9:00, and we will come back to this courtroom
which I think is a more comfortable courtroom than the
other courtroom. At least it is for me.
So have a good evening. See you tomorrow.
(The following proceedings were held outside the
presence of the jury:)
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THE COURT: Okay. You may be seated. Just a few
things, and then we will recess.
Did the other defendants wish to make opening
statements?
MR. JOHNSON: Peter Johnson on behalf of Vahe
Dadyan, yes.
THE COURT: What about Artur?
MS. WIRSCHING: Yes. We will be making an opening
statement.
THE COURT: Now, just a few words about referring
to defendants. The names are not the everyday names, and
it took me a while to get confident about the names. So
when you refer to the defendants, refer to them by their
first and last name. For example, there was some
references to Ayvazian, but there is another Ayvazian in
the case. So try to keep that in mind especially this
case.
The other point I wanted to ask you about was
they are -- the defendants are not at counsel table;
correct?
MR. LITTRELL: They are, your Honor.
THE COURT: They are? I see. So many lawyers I
couldn't tell who is who. So some of the defendants are.
Can the defendants just for my clarification identify
themselves by name.
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MS. TERABELIAN: Marietta Terabelian, your Honor.
MR. R. AYVAZYAN: Richard Ayvazian, your Honor.
THE COURT: I see. Thank you.
MR. DADYAN: Vahe Dadyan, your Honor.
MR. A. AYVAZYAN: Artur Ayvazian.
THE COURT: I see. All right.
And now the question is there are some
defendants named in the indictment who will not be here.
We had the discussion about Harapetyan, and then there is
Grigoryan who in the opening statement seems front and
center. So I was going to tell the jury, because they
might be interested in why no one is making an opening
statement on their behalf or why they aren't here, simply
that they are not here and you don't have to concern
yourself with why they are not here. It is the evidence
in the case regarding the conspiracy which includes them
that matters. But, then, in the opening statement, the
lawyer Ryan --
MR. FRASER: Fraser, your Honor.
THE COURT: -- told the jury about the plea
agreement. So I guess they know that Grigoryan plead
guilty. I didn't know that that would come up. So what
should I say, if anything? Just leave it alone or say
something?
MR. FRASER: I think it would be appropriate for
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the Court to instruct the jury that he plead guilty and
that other defendants have plead guilty who are not
participating in this trial.
THE COURT: What is the government's view?
MS. AHN: Your Honor, to some extent, as my
colleague Mr. Fenton said the cat is out of the bag.
However, I do think that a limiting instruction asking
the jury to not infer anything from their presence or
their lack of presence would be appropriate, your Honor.
THE COURT: So I am going to just indicate what I
might say so you have an opportunity. Based upon the
discussion so far, what I intend to say is that two of
the, or I guess three of the defendants; right? What is
her name, Tamara. Three of the defendants, entered
guilty pleas. The fact that those defendants entered
guilty pleas is not relevant in and of itself to your
consideration of the other defendants. And you are to
consider the evidence relating to them and the conspiracy
charged along with the evidence of remaining defendants
and, because of that reason, they are not present.
MS. AHN: The government would agree with that,
your Honor.
THE COURT: Is it okay?
MR. RAM: Your Honor, I would just add there is
actually four defendants who have plead.
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THE COURT: Who is the fourth?
MR. RAM: Edward Paronyan.
THE COURT: Four. Let's see. Tamara Dadyan,
Paronyan. That's right. And Harapetyan. But what is
his name. The other Dadyan, Vahe, he didn't plead.
Only 4, 5 and 7 have changed their plea.
Mr. Dadyan, maybe you didn't know that. We didn't
consummate the plea.
MR. RAM: I understand there is a potential plea
at 5:00 today, your Honor. So I apologize. Whatever the
number is, three or four, defendants entered guilty pleas
to certain charges.
THE COURT: All right. I will try to remember
that. Let me write that down.
THE COURT: Okay. The government has witnesses
ready to go tomorrow right after we finish the opening
statements.
MS. AHN: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. See you tomorrow.
MR. JOHNSON: Your Honor, just one issue. In the
morning, can the Court clarify that the jurors on the
front row here can see the witness. I am concerned that
they will not be able to see it just to confirm with the
jurors in the morning as well as the -- I guess the --
well, that is the main issue for tomorrow.
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THE COURT: Well, I mean, I can see you and you
are about the same distance from me.
MR. JOHNSON: What I am concerned about are these
jurors here.
THE COURT: Sit in that box. Let me see.
MR. JOHNSON: I guess my big head is not in the
way now, and it is difficult.
THE COURT: Well, maybe the issue is that the I
don't know that they can't see. I will ask them. Let me
just see something here. Hold on a second here. I can
see you very clearly with my glasses.
MR. JOHNSON: But I am standing. It might be
better to put the jurors in this row so that they are
slightly elevated.
THE COURT: Maybe that is a good suggestion. I
don't know. We will see what we can do.
MR. FENTON: Your Honor, one final housekeeping
point. The government would like to take the evening to
consider the appropriate instruction regarding the pleas.
THE COURT: I can't hear you. I'm sorry.
MR. FENTON: The government would like to take the
evening to consider further the appropriate instruction
with respect to the pleas so with the Court's permission.
THE COURT: Yes. I won't say anything until I
hear from you further.
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MR. FENTON: Thank you, your Honor. We will
submit something first thing.
THE COURT: Yes. But I mean, that was told to the
jury by counsel. So I mean, are you saying if it was
improper, you were thinking of a corrective instruction?
MR. FENTON: Yes, your Honor. This came out in
opening statement and it came out suddenly, and then it
went right into the plea agreement. He started to read
it. And so I think that the government at this point
needs to consider what the appropriate course of action
is.
THE COURT: What is your initial position on it?
In other words, clearly, it is -- it is not a statement
in furtherance of a conspiracy because the conspiracy has
long ended, alleged conspiracy, when he entered the
guilty plea.
But how does the defendant see that evidence
as being relevant to the issues? Not what he said, but
at least well I guess what he said in the plea agreement
and then also tell me why the plea agreement is
admissible on its own.
MR. FRASER: It is relevant to, on behalf of
Ms. Terabelian, to third party culpability. The
government blames Ms. Terabelian for conduct attributed
to someone essentially using the Viktoria Kauichko
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identity, and, clearly, Manuk Grigoryan was doing that.
And that fact exculpates Ms. Terabelian. And since the
government signed the document and adopted that factual
basis as its own statement of facts related to the
conduct at issue in the indictment, it is a party
admission under Bachinian is a case, a 1999 case.
THE COURT: With these kinds of facts?
MR. FRASER: Actually, in that case, very similar
facts, and I think the Bachinian case supports my
position here a fortiori if I may in that in that case
you had a severed trial, and the defendant in the later
trial offered a statement by the prosecutor against a
co-defendant in the earlier trial. And it was Judge,
District Judge Pregerson ruled that that was indeed a
party admission admissible against the government noting
that the government is bound by its plea agreements.
THE COURT: Did Judge Pregerson rely on any
authority or just his holding, his finding.
MR. FRASER: He did, your Honor. Off the top of
my head, I don't recall.
THE COURT: I see. Well, help the Court tomorrow.
I won't say anything until I hear further.
MR. FENTON: Thank you, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right.
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15/3 15/6 15/8 15/9 15/11
15/12 15/15 15/17 15/18
15/20 15/21 15/23 16/1 16/3
16/4 16/6 16/7 16/9 16/11
16/14 16/16 16/17 16/19
16/20 16/22 16/25 17/2 17/3
17/5 17/6 17/7 17/9 17/10
17/11 17/15 17/17 17/18
17/20 17/22 17/23 17/24
34/18 165/18 165/18 165/19
165/22 166/11 166/12 166/14
166/14 166/17 167/25 168/1
168/2 168/3 168/5 168/7
168/10 171/24 179/15 179/20
accounting [3] 76/12 107/11
141/25
accounts [20] 14/7 14/11
15/5 15/14 15/25 16/13 16/24
17/14 19/22 24/7 24/14 33/19
151/1 155/18 156/15 157/5
157/5 157/6 157/8 165/21
accumulate [1] 84/6
accurate [1] 86/15
accusation [1] 30/10
accusations [2] 8/17 170/8
accused [1] 113/20
accusing [2] 42/22 176/8
acknowledge [2] 11/6 11/14
across [1] 131/21
Act [4] 10/16 10/17 10/22
12/20
action [1] 187/10
actions [1] 42/17
activity [6] 23/11 23/15
23/20 50/3 51/24 173/16
actor [1] 65/23
acts [3] 20/16 20/22 22/20
actual [1] 177/17
actuality [1] 161/12
actually [10] 29/7 43/22
85/2 109/16 124/19 154/23
171/2 179/24 184/25 188/8
AD [5] 15/22 15/22 15/22
16/10 16/10
Adam [3] 29/3 30/2 54/17
add [1] 184/24
added [1] 173/4
addition [1] 11/24
additional [1] 111/11
address [15] 20/9 20/10
20/12 101/5 102/11 113/22
136/1 154/15 154/15 163/15
163/18 163/20 168/13 173/1
178/1
addressed [1] 173/9
addresses [2] 164/2 166/19
adequate [2] 75/13 126/3
adjudicator [1] 57/2
administering [1] 173/15
administers [1] 151/24
Administration [6] 7/13
12/16 28/24 137/11 143/9
151/24
administrative [1] 97/1
admissible [2] 187/21 188/15
admission [2] 188/6 188/15
admit [1] 48/25
admonitions [2] 181/14
181/17
adopted [1] 188/3
Adrian [2] 38/5 139/8
adult [1] 78/17
adverse [1] 52/10
advise [2] 6/5 119/24
Advisors [1] 16/5
advocating [1] 176/16
affect [7] 30/25 31/7 102/7
106/17 118/19 134/16 137/16
affected [4] 12/18 36/16
101/24 107/6
affecting [1] 30/22
affirm [1] 11/10
affirmative [2] 11/7 147/23
after [13] 33/20 40/5 46/5
96/2 157/18 167/18 167/19
168/21 174/14 176/2 176/2
178/24 185/16
afternoon [8] 25/17 104/18
108/4 115/18 124/15 131/9
135/15 141/8
afterwards [1] 87/22
again [17] 8/8 29/24 29/25
32/7 32/25 55/6 55/22 63/21
106/24 110/1 114/20 129/20
135/1 156/1 156/5 157/25
167/22
against [15] 23/6 46/21
48/13 49/1 112/18 139/21
169/4 169/24 170/1 170/8
171/2 180/6 180/13 188/12
188/15
agencies [2] 153/6 153/6
agencies' [1] 153/10
agency [4] 13/12 38/14 137/1
137/3
agent [7] 5/17 26/11 161/25
162/1 162/17 163/2 164/19
agents [4] 47/17 155/2
155/19 157/14
aggravated [2] 165/25 166/23
ago [12] 34/17 45/22 45/24
57/9 93/11 93/12 109/4
117/20 123/5 153/22 155/8
167/5
agree [4] 96/11 96/13 181/2
184/21
agreeing [2] 150/22 150/24
agreement [6] 172/5 172/21
183/21 187/8 187/19 187/20
agreements [1] 188/16
ahead [5] 32/24 47/9 55/21
61/5 169/12
AHN [5] 2/5 5/15 26/10 170/6
176/11
Aid [1] 10/16
aide [1] 46/1
aide-de-camp [1] 46/1
aiding [2] 21/20 22/19
airport [6] 173/18 173/21
175/4 175/20 176/2 176/7
al [2] 1/9 26/5
Albert [2] 38/7 139/10
alcohol [1] 63/2
alert [1] 157/1
Alexander [2] 38/3 139/6
all [106]
allegation [4] 7/17 107/5
149/22 170/14
allegations [4] 7/23 8/24
9/9 131/25
alleged [6] 107/6 156/10
170/11 171/3 172/14 187/15
alleges [2] 160/5 167/24
alleging [3] 33/23 34/11
167/18
allotted [1] 84/15
allow [3] 8/21 9/3 164/15
allowed [1] 12/9
Allstate [4] 15/16 15/17
15/19 15/20
allude [1] 173/17
alluded [1] 171/4
Almader [2] 87/20 87/24
alone [1] 183/23
along [6] 67/21 132/1 155/22
159/10 170/11 184/19
Alpha [1] 3/12
already [4] 104/8 104/9
163/2 171/4
also [46] 6/2 11/14 13/8
13/23 25/13 26/21 26/24 35/6
54/17 69/1 86/4 86/18 110/5
114/9 125/14 139/21 152/7
152/20 153/5 153/14 153/23
154/11 155/24 156/9 157/13
157/17 160/22 163/12 165/12
165/19 165/24 166/8 166/16
167/7 168/12 168/13 172/2
175/22 176/1 177/5 178/20
178/23 179/12 179/14 179/20
187/20
alter [1] 156/13
altering [1] 155/13
alternate [20] 57/8 120/25
124/12 129/5 129/6 130/16
130/18 136/9 139/14 140/6
140/8 140/9 140/17 140/21
140/24 141/3 143/22 145/1
147/10 176/11
alternates [13] 120/11
120/14 120/17 120/17 126/2
135/20 136/2 136/11 138/25
140/2 140/6 144/22 147/15
alternative [1] 41/7
although [2] 66/6 165/2
always [4] 35/3 43/25 44/5
149/15
am [140]
Amanecer [1] 3/5
Amara [1] 125/8
Ambrose [11] 54/2 54/8 62/6
62/8 62/8 62/11 63/16 88/25
89/1 114/7 114/24
America [6] 1/6 2/3 5/8 26/5
171/23 175/23
Americans [1] 10/19
Americas [1] 2/17
Amira [2] 38/7 139/11
among [4] 11/19 20/23 151/1
173/18
amount [5] 11/22 12/13 13/14
35/4 152/6
analysis [3] 84/14 128/6
128/7
analyst [3] 77/5 106/16
107/2
ancestry [1] 112/19
and/or [6] 14/10 15/4 15/13
15/24 16/12 16/23
Andrew [2] 38/5 139/9
ANGELES [19] 1/14 1/23 2/7
2/15 3/9 3/16 5/1 18/2 21/3
21/14 22/2 22/14 23/1 29/20
38/16 78/8 88/3 131/16
148/14
Anna [1] 166/14
another [14] 18/6 23/5 29/23
82/9 87/18 106/16 114/10
150/13 156/10 167/21 174/24
176/25 177/7 182/15
answer [22] 9/6 28/15 28/17
31/22 31/24 31/25 33/15 42/7
47/18 51/12 53/3 57/13 77/9
77/16 79/10 92/6 96/18 96/19
124/3 124/5 136/3 136/6
answered [2] 92/3 111/18
answering [1] 103/22
answers [5] 41/10 74/23
75/12 106/22 128/23
Anthea [2] 108/2 108/3
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Anthony [2] 38/8 139/11
anticipate [2] 148/14 148/15
Anton [3] 16/21 161/10
168/17
any [85] 13/18 25/21 33/4
33/12 37/25 38/10 43/6 43/6
46/24 46/25 48/13 52/20
52/20 53/5 57/18 58/3 58/24
59/16 60/14 61/23 63/11 65/4
66/16 67/8 68/10 69/4 69/11
69/16 71/10 72/13 73/11
73/17 74/16 74/24 76/17
77/11 79/9 79/25 82/8 85/17
88/18 89/16 91/4 93/19 95/10
96/18 97/16 99/2 103/16
105/12 105/25 109/6 116/10
117/24 122/8 122/13 123/23
123/24 124/19 125/1 125/21
128/22 130/12 136/3 136/20
137/14 138/17 142/20 144/5
144/5 146/16 146/25 147/9
149/1 149/15 149/20 158/6
162/11 169/6 173/9 179/25
180/1 181/4 181/8 188/17
anyone [21] 29/2 32/21 33/9
37/11 37/24 38/10 38/13
38/22 45/11 46/20 48/13
51/23 53/5 57/13 102/5
117/21 138/12 146/16 168/17
174/8 181/3
anyone's [1] 144/8
anything [13] 30/3 33/3
41/24 51/9 96/5 136/14
136/15 142/11 175/15 183/23
184/8 186/24 188/22
apartment [9] 108/15 163/15
163/16 163/22 163/22 166/21
172/23 173/6 173/12
apologies [1] 36/3
apologize [8] 27/8 86/14
115/15 121/24 122/2 140/12
140/21 185/10
app [1] 145/6
apparent [1] 112/19
apparently [1] 179/22
appear [2] 83/20 155/17
appearance [1] 6/6
appearances [4] 2/1 3/1 5/11
26/6
appeared [1] 167/20
applicant [8] 11/9 11/13
11/18 11/24 13/8 13/16 13/23
152/6
applicant's [1] 13/10
application [15] 11/2 11/4
11/18 12/1 12/3 12/25 13/9
13/14 33/4 154/9 154/21
159/8 166/3 167/1 167/15
applications [44] 13/11
18/17 18/23 19/4 19/15 24/4
150/23 150/25 151/11 151/12
151/15 151/18 151/20 151/22
152/11 152/14 152/16 152/19
152/20 153/3 153/13 153/16
153/17 154/1 154/4 154/6
154/12 154/19 154/25 155/7
155/15 155/17 155/23 156/3
156/5 156/21 156/25 157/4
161/2 166/22 170/2 173/1
173/12 180/9
applied [16] 7/18 29/2 29/7
29/12 30/4 32/21 33/2 137/20
143/8 144/3 160/19 161/4
163/17 166/8 167/8 168/12
applies [2] 84/21 113/1
apply [6] 29/4 150/13 161/1
163/14 166/6 168/14
applying [1] 173/3
appraisal [1] 172/8
appreciate [2] 56/21 83/11
appreciated [1] 27/13
appreciates [2] 31/13 75/11
apprehended [2] 176/12
176/25
apprise [1] 50/8
approach [9] 56/18 56/19
87/21 89/3 91/20 96/24 112/8
120/24 126/7
appropriate [8] 52/3 124/21
149/25 183/25 184/9 186/19
186/22 187/10
appropriately [1] 32/19
approved [5] 12/4 13/15 14/4
14/6 24/5
Arcadia [1] 68/20
arduous [1] 135/16
are [266]
aren't [6] 47/22 83/6 87/4
130/18 159/9 183/13
Argentina [3] 127/24 128/1
128/2
argue [1] 149/20
arguing [2] 162/21 177/24
argument [4] 149/19 162/8
162/21 181/12
argumentative [1] 162/11
arise [1] 101/4
Arman [6] 10/9 17/1 17/4
17/8 167/3 167/7
Armando [1] 87/23
Armenian [18] 27/1 27/3
48/12 48/13 48/16 49/1 49/4
49/10 49/11 51/22 51/23
113/7 136/14 142/10 142/12
146/15 146/20 176/14
Armenians [2] 50/2 142/20
around [8] 18/1 21/1 21/2
22/1 22/2 22/25 23/1 129/12
arrested [38] 57/15 57/18
59/5 59/6 60/9 61/8 62/24
63/2 64/23 68/5 69/12 71/5
72/7 73/13 76/22 79/20 88/12
89/23 93/6 95/1 97/11 98/22
100/2 103/11 105/19 108/24
117/17 117/22 122/20 125/16
130/9 132/24 138/20 142/2
146/1 157/18 167/19 176/2
arrival [1] 25/9
arrive [1] 148/20
arts [2] 29/19 130/8
ARTUR [34] 3/11 5/9 5/22
9/24 10/1 10/5 15/13 18/4
18/12 18/19 18/25 19/10
19/18 19/23 20/2 20/19 21/5
21/17 22/4 22/16 23/3 24/1
24/9 24/19 26/19 26/21 38/5
139/9 153/18 155/12 155/14
156/11 182/7 183/5
as [147]
Ashwin [4] 2/13 5/18 26/13
159/11
aside [1] 35/7
ask [54] 6/4 8/16 27/17
27/24 28/1 28/14 29/23 29/24
37/10 37/22 37/24 41/5 41/18
41/19 48/8 48/10 48/21 49/6
51/22 53/10 56/22 57/12
65/11 87/9 91/8 91/11 91/25
101/17 102/11 106/12 106/21
107/18 110/20 111/13 112/2
119/15 132/17 134/8 136/5
138/19 139/24 144/25 146/13
147/13 158/2 162/4 162/15
168/22 169/14 169/23 171/19
180/12 182/18 186/9
asked [17] 29/23 32/17 51/21
52/19 74/20 77/2 107/18
111/19 123/12 131/1 135/21
136/10 139/23 142/8 142/9
152/4 157/20
asking [3] 107/17 127/8
184/7
aspect [1] 170/22
aspersions [1] 113/4
assault [1] 105/24
assembly [2] 6/13 8/3
assessment [2] 7/7 113/21
assets [1] 22/9
assigned [1] 104/25
assist [1] 169/15
assistance [3] 10/19 10/21
30/12
assistant [10] 5/15 6/2
26/10 35/10 37/22 40/3 97/2
107/1 126/12 169/15
assisted [2] 6/2 6/5
associate [1] 41/24
associate's [2] 72/2 125/15
assumed [1] 161/23
assurance [1] 144/9
assure [3] 43/17 143/21
147/2
attempt [5] 7/6 23/9 23/17
167/12 179/18
attempted [1] 174/10
attempting [1] 167/14
attention [1] 81/10
attorney [13] 5/15 5/16
26/10 26/11 35/10 35/10
35/11 35/24 37/22 37/23 40/3
44/17 170/6
attorney's [3] 2/4 9/4 40/2
attributed [1] 187/24
August [3] 18/2 21/3 22/2
August 2020 [3] 18/2 21/3
22/2
aunt [3] 100/19 101/7 166/15
AUSA [2] 2/5 2/5
authority [1] 188/18
authorization [1] 10/22
authorized [4] 11/3 11/5
11/13 12/20
Auto [4] 16/18 16/18 17/16
17/16
available [4] 43/2 50/13
85/22 181/5
Avenue [8] 2/10 2/17 2/23
163/15 163/20 163/22 166/21
172/24
average [1] 11/19
avoid [1] 162/10
await [1] 180/20
aware [1] 28/12
Ayvazian [48] 5/9 5/22 10/2
10/6 18/13 153/18 153/18
156/6 156/11 156/11 157/16
157/19 158/11 159/6 159/8
159/12 159/15 159/15 159/20
159/21 159/23 160/21 161/11
163/3 165/24 166/3 166/24
167/4 167/16 167/18 168/8
168/10 169/4 170/12 170/17
170/19 171/7 171/20 171/25
175/1 179/3 179/18 180/3
180/5 182/15 182/15 183/2
183/5
Ayvazian's [9] 155/12 155/14
165/20 167/10 172/20 173/13
175/6 175/16 175/19
Ayvazyan [47] 1/9 2/12 3/11
5/8 5/19 9/18 9/23 9/24 10/1
14/10 15/13 18/4 18/4 18/12
18/18 18/19 18/24 18/25 19/9
19/10 19/18 19/19 19/23
19/24 20/1 20/2 20/19 20/19
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Ayvazyan... [19] 21/5 21/5
21/17 21/18 22/4 22/4 22/16
22/17 23/3 23/3 23/25 24/1
24/9 24/18 24/19 26/5 26/14
26/19 26/21
Aziz [1] 171/19
B
B-O-B-A-D-I-L-L-A [1] 94/11
bachelor [1] 64/22
bachelor' [1] 130/7
bachelor's [10] 60/7 67/6
68/3 71/3 72/3 97/9 98/19
117/1 141/24 145/24
Bachinian [2] 188/6 188/9
back [19] 25/16 27/6 28/8
35/4 79/1 80/12 82/7 82/10
82/13 82/22 83/24 87/9 132/3
134/22 134/24 143/16 148/11
149/3 181/20
background [33] 57/2 57/23
58/1 60/6 61/2 62/22 64/21
67/5 68/2 69/9 71/1 72/1
73/10 76/20 88/9 89/21 93/4
94/24 97/8 98/18 105/17
108/21 113/5 116/25 122/18
125/5 125/12 127/22 130/6
132/20 141/23 145/22 175/11
bag [1] 184/6
baggage [1] 173/18
bank [92] 14/7 14/11 14/12
14/14 14/15 14/17 14/18
14/20 14/21 14/23 14/24 15/1
15/2 15/3 15/5 15/6 15/7
15/9 15/11 15/12 15/14 15/15
15/17 15/18 15/20 15/21
15/22 15/25 16/1 16/3 16/4
16/6 16/7 16/9 16/10 16/13
16/14 16/15 16/17 16/19
16/20 16/21 16/24 16/25 17/2
17/3 17/6 17/7 17/10 17/11
17/14 17/15 17/17 17/18
17/19 17/22 17/23 17/24 18/8
19/16 19/22 21/25 23/12
23/21 24/7 28/20 76/12 77/4
77/5 77/6 77/7 106/17 107/1
107/3 136/21 137/15 143/1
143/4 146/22 156/14 157/8
160/15 165/18 166/11 166/12
167/25 168/1 168/7 168/9
171/23 175/23 179/25
banks [4] 14/8 106/23 107/5
152/4
Barnes [1] 164/19
based [11] 13/15 30/16 31/7
31/19 74/23 75/12 101/5
106/13 136/17 161/21 184/11
basic [1] 74/21
basically [2] 111/12 146/8
basis [4] 96/16 103/24
134/20 188/4
Batson [3] 112/3 112/21
113/1
be [219]
Beach [3] 3/21 58/14 141/14
bearing [1] 155/10
beat [1] 47/22
Beauty [1] 116/21
because [38] 8/7 27/9 28/14
31/15 36/1 41/10 43/23 44/3
44/4 44/24 49/17 52/18 53/20
54/13 56/20 61/10 83/4 84/12
85/23 92/14 104/7 107/12
115/7 123/12 134/22 144/4
148/5 148/19 149/20 156/25
158/19 165/7 169/25 170/16
176/13 183/11 184/20 187/14
become [1] 111/17
becomes [1] 31/6
been [65] 23/20 33/10 36/16
36/23 37/11 47/3 47/4 47/10
49/4 55/16 57/15 57/18 59/4
60/9 61/8 62/24 64/23 68/5
69/12 71/5 72/7 73/12 76/22
79/20 88/12 89/23 93/6 95/1
95/24 96/1 97/11 98/22 100/2
102/25 103/11 105/19 108/18
108/24 109/18 113/20 114/8
117/15 117/17 117/22 118/13
122/20 124/24 125/16 130/9
132/24 133/10 138/2 138/7
138/13 138/17 138/20 142/2
143/11 146/1 146/7 148/16
157/19 168/4 176/10 179/13
before [21] 6/4 25/8 27/18
32/16 33/24 85/20 102/10
107/4 107/18 119/18 121/7
126/2 135/21 140/14 147/20
161/14 168/22 171/22 172/13
180/22 181/20
beg [1] 91/21
began [1] 161/15
begin [9] 25/13 56/15 126/10
139/24 148/9 148/10 148/19
149/11 181/18
beginning [6] 6/3 17/25 21/1
21/25 22/24 161/22
begins [2] 9/1 149/12
behalf [12] 2/3 5/19 6/1
26/14 26/23 29/12 36/4 52/17
169/10 182/5 183/13 187/22
behavior [1] 132/23
behind [2] 87/3 179/13
behold [2] 44/20 44/21
being [59] 6/5 27/11 34/18
36/11 42/22 43/1 46/8 48/25
50/2 51/22 51/24 58/4 59/17
60/15 61/24 63/12 65/5 67/9
69/17 71/11 72/12 72/14
75/15 77/12 80/1 86/14 88/19
90/9 93/20 95/11 96/6 97/17
99/3 100/22 106/1 107/7
109/7 110/25 117/25 123/24
125/22 128/15 133/14 136/16
137/6 138/10 142/13 143/19
146/10 157/18 174/9 176/2
176/3 176/6 177/14 178/22
179/16 180/2 187/18
believe [24] 33/7 34/2 34/13
34/17 42/11 42/25 43/1 46/7
75/6 80/25 95/22 101/19
102/6 113/12 114/8 114/9
114/23 118/8 131/1 138/25
139/20 175/21 178/3 178/6
believed [1] 42/11
believes [1] 161/11
Belize [3] 75/2 75/4 75/7
belonging [1] 156/19
belongs [1] 154/23
benefit [4] 20/6 20/6 24/22
24/22
best [9] 13/10 25/11 47/24
77/17 86/23 111/20 143/24
148/15 148/23
better [9] 6/15 44/7 45/17
49/23 62/9 108/10 150/4
159/3 186/13
between [9] 6/13 54/16
110/19 151/1 153/24 158/21
161/17 164/23 168/17
Beverly [1] 107/3
beyond [7] 7/23 9/2 129/12
133/23 134/1 168/24 169/3
BFA [3] 125/6 125/13 125/14
bias [5] 46/21 48/13 49/22
49/22 139/21
biased [1] 49/1
Bienert [2] 3/4 3/7
big [1] 186/6
bilingual [1] 129/14
birth [2] 9/13 156/18
bit [8] 47/7 74/10 74/13
91/9 91/25 101/9 124/25
150/4
bite [1] 82/4
black [1] 113/2
blames [1] 187/24
blank [1] 163/24
blossom [1] 175/10
Bob [1] 43/5
Bobadilla [1] 94/11
book [1] 79/16
Border [1] 173/20
Boston [1] 70/15
both [69] 30/6 31/14 33/5
33/24 34/10 34/21 37/1 37/17
38/25 41/14 53/8 58/5 59/17
60/15 61/24 63/12 65/5 65/12
67/9 68/11 69/17 71/11 72/14
73/18 77/12 78/18 80/1 80/19
80/21 84/17 88/19 90/9 90/16
93/20 95/11 96/7 96/16 97/17
99/3 100/22 103/6 103/17
104/3 106/1 107/7 107/20
109/7 110/23 111/1 117/25
120/9 123/25 124/7 124/10
125/22 130/20 131/4 133/14
133/21 137/7 137/17 137/25
138/1 138/10 139/17 143/19
143/23 147/3 160/16
bottom [1] 175/12
Boulevard [1] 3/15
bound [2] 52/4 188/16
boutique [1] 70/15
box [11] 27/18 28/4 44/20
46/11 46/15 53/10 55/18
84/21 84/22 135/22 186/5
boxes [1] 55/15
boy [1] 42/9
Brandon [1] 102/17
break [3] 87/14 103/19
135/15
breaking [1] 83/15
breaks [3] 135/7 135/8
135/13
Briana [2] 38/2 139/6
brief [7] 7/2 8/4 48/3 81/13
106/11 119/13 157/22
briefly [4] 7/11 36/14 96/9
143/14
bring [4] 25/23 40/24 81/10
125/25
broad [1] 103/24
broadcast [1] 8/3
broaden [1] 37/9
brokerage [1] 168/2
brother [7] 36/16 59/14 90/2
90/13 91/12 93/18 133/4
brother's [3] 90/8 90/17
92/15
brothers [1] 10/2
brought [3] 6/10 43/23 86/15
Brown [2] 53/23 58/10
brutality [2] 47/3 47/11
burden [3] 112/24 113/14
149/15
business [58] 7/13 7/20 9/17
11/2 11/3 11/5 11/22 12/7
12/10 12/16 12/24 13/21
14/12 14/15 14/18 14/21
14/24 15/9 15/15 15/18 16/1
16/4 16/7 16/14 16/17 16/25
17/3 17/7 17/15 17/23 18/22
19/8 28/24 29/6 30/12 37/14
37/15 70/3 72/6 97/2 137/11
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business... [17] 143/9 151/2
151/24 152/5 152/6 152/25
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156/17 163/6 166/19 167/3
167/6 170/22 173/11
business' [3] 12/1 13/1
165/20
businesses [17] 10/23 12/18
12/22 25/19 30/9 150/19
152/1 152/7 152/9 152/17
152/22 155/6 155/16 156/4
156/20 156/25 173/2
businessman [1] 170/19
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C-A-L-L-O-W-A-Y [1] 56/8
CA [9] 1/23 2/7 2/15 2/21
3/6 3/9 3/13 3/16 3/21
cafe [1] 125/11
Cal [1] 99/20
calculate [1] 11/21
CALIFORNIA [33] 1/2 1/14 5/1
9/19 9/21 9/25 10/4 10/8
10/10 10/12 10/14 18/3 20/10
20/11 20/12 20/24 21/4 21/15
22/3 22/15 23/2 153/7 154/12
154/14 154/16 154/18 154/19
155/4 155/10 155/13 164/10
168/9 172/24
call [24] 27/18 38/23 46/2
50/8 53/9 82/3 87/18 116/21
120/18 126/2 130/20 148/1
159/13 159/14 159/14 159/17
162/3 162/14 176/13 176/22
177/7 178/4 178/13 179/6
Calle [1] 3/5
called [8] 7/14 28/3 29/13
42/21 44/20 53/19 124/24
167/2
calling [5] 5/7 26/4 50/16
50/21 50/25
Calloway [4] 56/8 56/12
71/15 71/15
calls [4] 151/5 157/17 176/2
176/4
Camargo [1] 35/17
came [5] 75/4 75/5 131/21
187/6 187/7
camp [1] 46/1
can [113]
can't [15] 38/21 52/8 77/17
81/15 84/3 102/5 104/11
112/13 113/21 129/12 144/8
148/19 177/21 186/9 186/20
cannot [1] 104/6
Canoga [8] 163/15 163/20
163/22 166/21 172/24 173/5
173/12 178/5
capable [2] 179/18 179/19
capacity [1] 30/8
card [21] 34/7 34/8 35/2
42/21 42/25 100/16 143/16
156/1 167/6 173/17 173/20
173/22 173/24 174/23 175/3
175/10 175/12 175/23 175/25
176/3 176/9
cards [10] 155/4 156/3
163/23 175/5 175/6 175/6
175/17 175/18 175/18 175/19
care [2] 70/14 159/25
career [3] 121/9 121/11
131/17
careful [1] 6/15
CARES [3] 10/17 10/21 12/20
carjack [1] 33/17
Caroline [1] 124/14
carried [4] 18/10 18/11
23/23 23/24
carrier [1] 78/7
case [134]
cases [4] 40/4 81/16 114/6
132/2
cashier [1] 99/16
cast [1] 113/4
casually [1] 118/18
cat [1] 184/6
catalog [1] 81/15
categories [1] 151/10
category [4] 151/22 152/10
154/24 157/2
CATHERINE [3] 2/5 5/15 26/10
caught [4] 157/19 173/25
176/11 176/24
cause [8] 43/17 49/3 49/19
54/14 54/18 83/22 86/5
147/20
caused [11] 18/15 18/21 19/2
19/12 20/22 21/21 22/20 24/3
24/4 24/12 115/14
causing [1] 150/22
cautionary [1] 180/23
caveat [1] 32/1
CBP [2] 174/20 175/3
cell [3] 167/10 167/15 171/6
center [3] 64/3 64/5 183/11
central [9] 1/2 7/17 18/3
20/24 21/3 21/15 22/3 22/15
23/2
certain [13] 9/12 10/24 11/6
12/7 35/4 39/16 65/10 128/14
135/23 135/24 152/4 167/12
185/12
certainly [4] 7/5 114/4
115/13 128/12
certificate [1] 154/8
certification [1] 11/9
certifications [2] 11/7 19/7
certify [1] 13/8
Chad [1] 53/24
chai [2] 56/2 68/16
chairs [1] 55/13
challenge [30] 49/17 49/20
77/21 80/3 80/11 80/13 80/21
80/22 81/11 83/16 83/22
83/25 84/5 84/8 86/3 86/6
93/23 97/19 99/5 106/6
109/11 109/20 109/20 109/25
110/3 110/5 112/21 118/24
119/21 139/25
challenges [13] 81/1 83/25
84/6 84/9 84/12 84/16 86/1
109/17 112/18 119/9 120/17
126/3 138/23
changed [2] 124/21 185/6
changing [1] 124/23
characterization [1] 174/4
charge [1] 160/13
charged [14] 95/19 110/12
110/24 150/12 150/21 150/24
155/7 160/10 165/10 165/12
165/25 167/16 169/4 184/19
charges [9] 7/21 11/17 104/1
107/6 150/1 151/3 160/11
166/24 185/12
charging [1] 180/5
chart [5] 54/4 54/4 55/10
55/12 55/20
charts [2] 151/7 168/15
Chase [4] 167/25 168/1 168/7
168/9
checkbooks [1] 155/5
checking [24] 14/12 14/15
14/18 14/21 14/24 15/2 15/6
15/9 15/15 15/18 15/21 16/1
16/4 16/7 16/14 16/17 16/20
16/25 17/3 17/7 17/11 17/15
17/18 17/23
checks [3] 155/5 155/18
163/24
chef [2] 124/18 125/7
cherry [1] 175/10
Chia [13] 54/19 54/21 55/25
56/1 56/6 62/3 62/3 68/14
68/15 69/19 82/1 82/2 87/16
children [26] 58/21 58/23
58/24 66/14 66/16 69/2 69/4
70/8 76/15 76/17 78/13 78/15
89/14 89/16 105/10 105/12
108/16 116/3 116/10 122/11
122/13 129/24 132/9 159/22
160/2 179/4
Chinese [1] 45/17
chips [2] 133/21 144/12
choice [1] 113/23
choices [2] 113/4 113/22
choose [1] 84/16
chosen [5] 31/12 128/16
143/22 144/10 147/3
Christen [2] 36/23 120/23
Christopher [4] 2/9 5/16
26/11 157/24
Circuit [2] 80/25 81/3
circumstance [1] 33/4
circumstances [1] 82/20
circumstantial [1] 170/15
City [4] 77/7 78/8 107/1
107/2
civic [1] 31/12
civil [11] 44/19 45/6 45/7
64/16 66/25 70/22 79/7 103/5
103/7 123/7 145/17
civilian [4] 121/21 121/23
121/25 122/1
claimed [1] 152/22
claims [1] 180/1
clarification [4] 35/20
140/5 158/11 182/24
clarify [3] 92/11 119/16
185/21
Clark [4] 5/16 26/12 38/7
139/11
Claudia [2] 53/12 53/18
clean [4] 60/21 157/20 177/6
177/13
cleaned [1] 33/21
clear [8] 32/12 44/9 66/9
75/18 84/3 84/24 92/6 114/17
clearer [3] 65/9 86/14 86/20
clearly [5] 27/6 28/16
186/11 187/13 188/1
Clemente [1] 3/6
clerk [12] 7/1 25/25 27/19
37/6 38/9 45/24 45/25 54/22
129/4 130/23 136/8 149/4
clerks [2] 45/21 45/22
client [6] 6/5 27/1 27/3
43/3 169/9 169/24
client's [1] 26/25
clients [1] 181/11
clinical [1] 108/23
close [7] 28/19 28/23 33/9
39/22 43/4 43/5 138/6
closely [1] 53/2
clothing [2] 20/15 25/3
co [21] 5/20 18/14 18/21
19/2 19/12 19/20 19/21 19/25
20/4 20/7 20/21 24/3 24/11
24/21 24/23 156/10 156/22
159/11 172/19 173/12 188/13
co-conspirator [2] 156/10
156/22
co-conspirators [14] 18/14
18/21 19/2 19/12 19/20 19/21
19/25 20/4 20/7 20/21 24/3
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co-counsel [2] 5/20 159/11
co-defendant [3] 172/19
173/12 188/13
Coast [2] 3/20 67/21
Cochran [2] 42/12 43/4
code [3] 23/16 136/25 177/13
Coinbase [3] 168/3 168/3
168/4
coins [4] 20/13 25/1 157/13
157/15
collaboration [1] 181/1
Collaborative [1] 29/13
colleague [3] 26/15 157/24
184/6
collected [1] 173/9
college [6] 33/17 33/18
70/10 78/20 97/2 143/4
colleges [1] 58/15
Collision [2] 17/16 17/17
colloquy [1] 32/10
coloring [1] 162/11
combination [2] 9/15 173/8
come [20] 5/12 8/9 25/16
30/24 41/16 73/3 75/25 82/10
82/13 82/22 84/11 86/2 87/9
115/9 148/11 150/4 168/22
174/9 181/20 183/22
comes [3] 30/21 103/19 150/6
comfortable [6] 36/5 36/9
47/8 57/14 149/9 181/21
coming [3] 81/16 169/15
173/22
commands [1] 181/9
comment [1] 74/16
comments [8] 40/16 41/25
42/4 42/7 42/10 42/15 42/20
43/24
commerce [1] 21/24
commercials [1] 66/8
commit [8] 18/7 20/22 22/20
22/23 23/6 23/8 160/15
165/13
committed [6] 20/21 22/19
131/21 165/10 167/21 169/4
committing [1] 166/1
common [1] 40/4
communicate [2] 74/18 128/17
communication [1] 21/24
community [3] 58/15 97/2
123/19
companies [1] 19/6
company [13] 14/3 17/5 17/9
29/14 104/25 126/18 127/2
127/8 163/25 166/7 167/2
167/6 167/8
company's [1] 166/9
complete [1] 79/19
complicated [2] 55/10 74/23
comprises [1] 147/14
computer [2] 128/9 132/8
conceal [2] 23/13 24/16
concealing [1] 165/14
concealment [3] 21/12 22/13
165/24
concern [7] 41/9 43/22 44/2
84/3 111/16 114/11 183/14
concerned [7] 41/25 42/3
42/4 43/10 113/18 185/22
186/3
concerning [1] 151/18
concerns [4] 41/19 42/18
107/15 128/10
conclusion [2] 44/15 162/22
conduct [7] 23/9 23/10 172/7
172/8 172/19 187/24 188/5
conducted [4] 42/23 162/5
162/10 162/15
confer [19] 7/1 25/25 27/19
37/6 38/9 39/5 39/8 54/22
80/7 81/23 91/7 94/3 106/9
109/13 119/4 129/4 130/23
136/8 144/24
confess [1] 83/17
confident [2] 128/19 182/12
configuration [1] 81/8
confirm [1] 185/23
confronted [3] 173/19 175/13
176/3
confronting [2] 174/24 175/4
confused [1] 140/25
confusion [2] 114/23 115/14
congested [1] 148/16
Connecticut [1] 2/23
connection [4] 19/4 144/5
162/17 168/16
connections [1] 151/16
connects [1] 154/25
consequences [1] 103/21
consider [16] 83/15 169/24
171/13 175/24 177/13 177/16
178/23 178/23 179/19 179/21
180/2 180/13 184/18 186/19
186/22 187/10
consideration [1] 184/17
considered [3] 46/25 121/20
161/5
consisted [1] 9/14
consistent [1] 158/3
conspiracies [2] 164/24
165/8
conspiracy [20] 17/25 18/9
18/10 20/18 22/23 22/24 23/7
23/22 23/23 157/10 160/13
160/16 165/13 165/16 171/3
183/16 184/18 187/14 187/14
187/15
conspirator [2] 156/10
156/22
conspirators [14] 18/14
18/21 19/2 19/12 19/20 19/21
19/25 20/4 20/7 20/21 24/3
24/11 24/21 24/23
conspired [2] 18/6 23/5
conspiring [1] 150/12
constitute [1] 83/22
constituted [7] 22/22 80/20
109/15 119/6 119/23 140/2
144/22
constituting [2] 83/16 84/4
construction [10] 17/2 17/2
17/4 17/6 17/9 17/10 88/4
92/23 166/17 166/20
consultant [1] 70/15
consummate [1] 185/8
Cont'd [1] 3/1
contact [1] 118/17
contain [1] 151/13
contained [2] 150/23 152/20
containing [1] 155/21
contends [3] 171/7 171/18
179/1
contextual [3] 178/18 178/23
179/10
continue [2] 80/24 84/20
continues [1] 80/23
continuing [4] 18/1 21/2
22/1 22/25
contract [1] 103/20
Contracting [5] 14/19 166/7
166/11 166/13 166/16
contractor [1] 13/13
contractual [1] 103/19
contrary [1] 162/19
control [4] 22/10 23/14
24/14 24/17
controlled [12] 14/7 14/10
15/4 15/13 15/24 16/12 16/23
17/13 17/21 19/25 163/10
168/18
controller [1] 107/1
controlling [1] 168/7
conversation [2] 110/10
171/5
converse [1] 127/17
convicted [38] 57/16 57/19
59/4 59/7 60/10 61/9 62/25
64/24 68/6 69/12 71/6 72/8
73/13 76/23 79/21 88/13
89/24 91/12 93/7 95/2 97/12
98/23 100/3 103/12 105/20
108/25 117/18 117/19 117/22
122/21 123/17 123/20 125/17
130/10 132/25 138/20 142/3
146/2
convinced [1] 124/7
cooperated [1] 25/9
cooperation [1] 56/21
copies [1] 155/3
core [1] 158/20
Coronavirus [1] 10/16
corporate [2] 76/11 107/1
Corporation [1] 57/4
correct [32] 13/10 32/19
51/3 57/10 57/11 59/10 59/11
63/17 74/2 83/21 85/12 85/13
85/16 86/7 92/16 92/17 94/7
106/20 109/21 109/23 110/1
120/13 127/13 131/22 131/23
138/20 140/6 142/25 170/7
177/3 178/14 182/20
corrective [1] 187/5
correctly [3] 62/3 65/17
127/10
correspond [2] 153/12 161/7
cost [2] 13/3 13/17
costs [2] 12/8 13/20
could [35] 8/5 9/16 13/19
13/24 30/8 30/24 31/22 32/12
36/18 36/25 37/2 40/10 40/24
42/5 44/6 47/21 77/15 83/7
83/8 84/8 85/14 86/1 86/2
86/20 91/8 92/7 101/22 131/1
152/7 152/25 159/1 169/15
176/14 177/16 179/19
couldn't [8] 68/10 73/17
92/15 96/16 96/21 103/17
172/2 182/23
counsel [25] 2/1 5/11 5/14
5/20 26/6 26/9 38/25 39/8
39/23 40/17 42/2 42/8 42/22
80/7 81/23 91/7 94/3 106/9
109/13 119/4 144/24 159/11
177/24 182/19 187/4
counsel's [2] 40/20 178/6
counseled [1] 149/17
counselor [2] 110/11 110/16
count [5] 9/9 22/23 160/11
166/24 167/16
country [5] 75/1 128/3 155/8
168/11 173/22
counts [12] 20/25 21/22
21/25 22/21 80/12 80/18
158/4 160/13 165/25 166/4
166/23 181/10
County [8] 18/2 21/3 21/14
22/2 22/15 23/1 88/4 131/16
couple [7] 40/14 95/5 100/6
108/15 109/4 114/6 114/7
couples [2] 110/12 113/20
course [8] 40/21 43/12 44/7
57/14 72/4 75/7 133/19
187/10
court [80] 1/1 1/21 5/20 6/4
7/1 9/2 25/9 25/13 25/25
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40/12 41/1 41/8 41/11 46/9
50/7 50/8 52/18 52/19 52/22
52/23 54/22 55/13 64/12
64/13 64/13 64/14 64/15
66/23 66/24 70/20 70/21
75/11 79/4 79/5 79/6 81/13
91/8 92/5 101/19 102/11
103/2 103/3 103/4 110/9
110/9 111/13 111/25 112/2
114/17 119/14 119/23 122/25
123/6 123/21 123/21 129/4
130/23 131/1 131/15 134/8
135/11 136/8 139/20 143/22
144/25 145/14 145/15 147/8
147/20 167/20 184/1 185/21
188/21
Court's [4] 40/22 92/14
149/2 186/23
courthouse [4] 66/23 70/19
79/3 79/4
courtroom [7] 27/7 148/3
148/8 148/24 181/20 181/21
181/22
cousin [5] 72/11 88/17 144/3
146/7 146/10
covered [1] 154/4
COVID [7] 7/13 10/20 12/23
13/5 137/22 150/20 152/2
COVID-19 [3] 10/20 150/20
152/2
CR [3] 1/8 5/7 26/4
crawl [1] 48/6
create [1] 9/16
created [6] 9/12 55/12
150/19 161/13 163/5 168/4
credential [1] 141/25
credit [14] 33/20 34/5 34/6
34/6 34/8 35/2 100/16 143/16
156/1 156/3 163/7 163/23
175/5 175/19
credits [1] 22/9
crime [45] 57/16 57/19 59/5
60/10 61/9 61/13 61/15 62/25
64/24 68/6 69/12 71/6 72/8
73/13 76/23 79/21 88/13
89/24 90/5 93/7 93/9 95/2
97/12 98/23 100/3 100/8
103/12 105/20 108/25 110/24
117/18 122/21 123/17 123/20
125/17 130/10 132/25 133/6
133/8 138/20 142/3 146/2
166/1 167/21 167/24
crimes [6] 49/12 95/7 113/20
131/21 131/24 169/4
criminal [21] 9/1 11/17 50/2
64/16 64/17 66/25 67/1 70/22
70/23 79/7 79/8 82/19 95/21
103/5 123/7 123/8 123/9
133/12 145/17 145/19 149/14
criminally [1] 23/18
critical [1] 128/11
cross [1] 174/17
cross-examination [1] 174/17
crucial [1] 181/14
Cruz [2] 28/5 53/1
cryptocurrency [3] 20/15
25/4 168/5
CSR [1] 1/21
CSUN [2] 99/18 102/20
culinary [1] 125/15
culpability [1] 187/23
cumbersome [1] 56/20
currently [2] 109/15 119/6
custodial [1] 93/13
custody [1] 22/10
customs [2] 173/20 173/21
cut [1] 46/12
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D-A-N-C-E-L [1] 102/17
D-I-O-L-O-S-A [1] 115/16
DA [3] 38/16 41/13 44/1
dad [1] 61/10
DADYAN [58] 3/18 5/9 5/10
6/1 10/3 10/5 10/13 15/24
17/21 18/5 18/5 18/13 18/14
18/19 18/20 18/25 19/1 19/10
19/11 19/19 19/20 19/24
19/25 20/2 20/3 20/20 20/20
21/5 21/6 21/18 21/19 22/5
22/6 22/17 22/18 23/4 23/5
24/1 24/2 24/10 24/11 24/19
24/20 26/23 36/5 52/17
156/10 160/23 161/17 165/1
171/9 171/18 172/1 182/6
183/4 185/3 185/5 185/7
Dadyan's [2] 156/23 160/24
daily [1] 25/19
Dancel [1] 102/17
date [1] 168/10
dates [6] 9/13 20/16 21/13
22/14 156/18 171/13
daughter [5] 63/6 66/19 70/9
116/11 118/9
daughters [1] 116/5
David [1] 34/15
day [2] 1/15 86/22
days [1] 179/16
DBA [4] 14/19 17/1 17/4 17/8
DC [2] 2/10 2/23
de [1] 46/1
deal [3] 25/10 39/2 142/8
deals [1] 81/4
dealt [1] 81/17
death [1] 154/8
Debbie [2] 38/8 139/12
debit [13] 167/6 173/17
173/20 173/24 174/23 175/3
175/5 175/9 175/12 175/18
175/25 176/3 176/9
debts [1] 13/21
deceased [1] 167/1
decent [1] 142/10
decide [7] 80/15 163/10
165/23 167/13 178/19 180/25
181/13
decided [1] 156/23
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four [10] 111/6 112/17
120/17 126/2 134/6 136/2
151/10 184/25 185/3 185/11
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109/24 151/18 157/2 185/1
Francisco [3] 2/21 116/15
116/18
Frank [3] 131/7 136/12 141/5
Fraser [7] 3/7 5/24 26/17
169/10 169/18 169/20 183/19
fraud [32] 11/17 18/7 18/8
20/25 21/25 23/11 23/12
23/21 23/21 24/4 24/21 35/6
37/11 40/2 50/4 95/17 100/12
100/14 100/15 100/16 100/21
107/12 131/25 156/15 157/1
160/9 160/15 160/15 164/11
164/21 164/22 165/15
frauds [1] 49/5
fraudulent [10] 18/16 18/23
19/4 19/14 22/11 22/22 51/24
158/22 160/7 173/11
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150/13 160/6 172/25
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frequently [1] 160/23
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friend [4] 28/19 28/23 33/10
138/6
friends [4] 43/4 43/5 74/1
127/17
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funded [2] 152/1 179/15
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13/18 13/19 13/24 13/25 22/9
24/17 34/18 37/15 160/6
160/7 165/14 179/22
furnishings [2] 20/14 25/3
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134/8 147/8 161/24 186/22
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Garcetti [8] 38/16 38/17
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Garcia [1] 169/15
Geffrey [1] 5/16
Gegigyan [2] 167/3 167/7
general [4] 7/4 7/10 149/25
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generally [27] 29/15 57/22
57/25 60/5 61/1 62/21 64/20
67/4 68/1 69/8 71/2 71/25
73/9 76/19 79/17 88/10 89/20
93/3 94/23 97/7 98/17 100/7
105/16 108/20 110/22 122/17
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gentlemen [3] 147/18 150/11
157/21
get [21] 6/20 6/21 33/21
40/18 44/18 46/12 50/23
53/15 61/7 92/1 120/18
123/13 132/3 135/9 136/4
144/4 148/9 152/25 156/24
165/23 182/12
gets [2] 84/15 177/10
getting [1] 92/6
Gil [1] 38/16
give [25] 7/3 7/6 7/10 25/6
28/16 31/22 31/25 33/15
33/24 39/17 44/12 46/2 52/12
101/21 104/4 124/2 133/21
134/3 136/4 149/24 150/9
178/21 180/19 180/22 181/12
given [2] 103/25 106/18
gives [1] 30/17
giving [4] 8/22 30/13 57/14
124/5
glad [2] 86/15 86/25
Gladys [3] 56/3 56/7 69/21
glasses [4] 6/10 62/9 62/10
186/11
Glendale [4] 3/13 10/10
10/14 20/11
Gloria [2] 97/24 98/1
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45/13 47/9 48/22 54/3 55/18
55/21 56/4 61/5 73/3 78/4
80/12 83/24 85/5 107/9 118/9
130/24 135/13 139/25 169/12
172/12 185/16
God [1] 147/22
goes [3] 82/19 159/15 178/16
going [90] 6/8 6/18 6/19
6/21 7/2 8/13 8/14 8/20 25/6
27/17 27/20 27/24 28/1 32/4
34/23 37/9 39/13 40/6 40/19
40/20 41/19 43/16 44/18 45/4
45/10 45/13 45/13 48/8 48/25
53/9 55/16 55/17 56/14 56/22
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86/22 87/3 87/6 87/18 104/7
107/10 109/20 110/21 111/21
112/7 126/2 128/24 129/2
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149/13 150/1 150/8 157/1
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172/13 172/15 176/12 179/14
183/11 184/10
gold [4] 20/13 25/1 157/13
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5/23 5/25 6/11 26/8 26/13
26/16 26/18 26/20 26/22 27/4
27/5 35/16 36/12 36/22 38/15
40/19 46/3 66/5 87/19 104/18
108/4 113/24 115/18 124/15
131/9 141/8 181/23 186/15
goods [2] 13/3 13/17
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Googling [1] 181/6
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143/16 175/7 175/7
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119/21 158/20 162/2 168/15
172/8 174/13 175/24 176/22
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grab [1] 82/4
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Grigorian [2] 160/24 160/24
Grigoryan [40] 10/7 16/12
18/5 18/13 18/19 18/25 19/10
19/19 19/24 20/2 20/20 21/6
21/18 22/5 22/17 23/4 24/1
24/10 24/19 161/13 163/6
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gross [1] 13/2
ground [4] 41/7 79/16 174/3
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67/20
guard [1] 173/25
Guerrero [9] 126/9 129/8
129/10 131/1 131/3 136/12
140/8 140/10 140/24
guess [13] 6/15 30/7 40/4
77/17 84/10 85/25 90/19
138/24 183/21 184/13 185/24
186/6 187/19
guidance [1] 43/20
guided [1] 114/3
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180/14 183/22 184/1 184/2
184/15 184/16 185/11 187/16
guy [1] 45/23
guys [1] 104/7
gyms [1] 33/19
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H-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z [1] 97/24
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had [57] 19/6 30/11 31/24
32/10 34/16 35/2 38/20 40/4
40/12 42/17 43/6 43/14 44/23
45/22 45/23 45/23 45/24
48/15 59/14 61/11 61/16
61/17 72/11 77/2 86/17 88/16
95/24 96/1 104/8 105/23
106/23 107/9 107/11 109/3
110/9 114/8 114/8 114/10
114/10 118/17 122/25 123/18
132/2 137/14 138/17 138/19
144/3 148/5 157/19 163/25
164/1 167/5 168/4 170/7
176/10 183/9 188/11
half [2] 121/14 175/17
Halum [2] 38/8 139/11
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53/20 54/3 54/25 136/6
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handles [1] 160/2
handling [1] 173/14
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38/12 48/19 52/1 52/14 52/20
53/2 147/17
handwritten [4] 155/12
155/20 163/25 164/1
happen [6] 8/14 44/18 84/19
85/2 85/21 176/18
happened [4] 34/17 61/14
151/19 176/7
happens [3] 41/6 41/22 81/4
happy [1] 6/9
Harapetyan [2] 183/9 185/4
Harcopian [2] 38/5 139/9
hard [4] 35/7 44/24 129/10
135/13
harm [1] 10/19
Hart [2] 38/4 139/8
has [62] 7/23 8/8 9/2 28/5
29/2 32/21 33/9 36/16 37/11
37/14 38/13 39/22 41/18
43/13 43/15 45/5 47/3 47/4
47/10 49/4 50/8 51/23 52/9
57/13 57/18 61/10 74/15 81/7
84/7 85/9 86/11 92/5 103/25
109/3 111/18 112/12 112/17
113/14 113/19 113/23 114/10
117/21 118/8 118/16 119/8
120/16 122/25 133/10 133/25
138/6 138/8 138/13 146/7
149/14 168/23 170/16 172/5
172/6 172/14 176/1 185/15
187/14
hasn't [1] 35/25
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88/8 132/19
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100/24 133/11 150/8 159/2
Hayrapetyan [23] 10/9 16/23
17/1 17/4 17/8 17/12 18/5
18/13 18/19 18/25 19/10
19/19 19/24 20/2 20/20 21/6
21/18 22/5 22/17 23/4 24/1
24/10 24/19
Hazard [1] 59/25
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40/9 40/11 40/12 40/15 41/10
41/13 41/13 43/13 43/14
43/15 45/18 45/19 50/13
50/17 50/25 51/1 61/11 61/16
61/17 61/21 61/22 62/17
62/17 66/13 69/1 70/7 76/11
78/19 91/22 91/23 91/23 92/1
92/3 92/10 95/23 108/14
108/14 109/3 118/8 118/11
118/12 118/13 118/17 132/8
136/24 136/25 144/3 153/4
156/23 161/14 162/10 162/15
162/18 166/6 166/7 166/8
167/5 167/9 167/19 167/20
172/1 172/5 173/6 178/9
178/11 179/19 184/1 185/5
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head [4] 40/2 129/14 186/6
188/20
health [4] 33/19 70/2 70/14
108/10
hear [68] 27/6 27/7 40/20
45/4 45/16 46/19 55/17 102/4
102/5 120/1 138/14 142/22
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152/14 152/17 152/23 153/1
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155/1 155/19 155/24 156/7
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159/21 160/3 160/18 160/22
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163/23 164/3 164/9 164/22
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167/4 167/7 168/8 168/12
176/5 177/9 177/15 177/21
179/8 186/20 186/25 188/22
heard [17] 28/14 31/8 32/10
40/8 50/1 51/23 104/7 107/4
136/16 139/1 142/19 150/11
158/19 169/22 172/3 173/17
177/5
hearing [5] 100/24 101/25
128/14 135/21 159/2
held [21] 5/5 7/25 8/18 26/2
39/19 46/17 48/23 51/4 80/8
81/21 82/15 82/25 83/12
87/10 112/9 114/13 149/6
154/19 157/9 165/18 181/24
Hello [1] 87/23
help [11] 126/20 147/21
149/10 150/3 152/1 157/12
171/16 180/5 181/10 181/11
188/21
helped [1] 86/25
helping [1] 171/22
helps [2] 113/9 113/11
her [39] 63/6 70/13 74/23
75/12 102/4 102/5 102/7
102/7 106/14 106/18 111/14
111/19 112/13 113/18 118/9
118/18 123/12 123/14 128/21
128/23 128/25 132/14 138/17
156/1 156/6 165/18 170/7
170/10 170/10 173/24 174/25
175/1 176/7 176/8 179/15
179/21 180/10 180/13 184/14
herd [1] 134/9
here [69] 6/13 6/17 6/21
26/14 27/2 27/11 28/9 29/2
31/11 32/16 32/21 33/9 37/11
37/24 38/10 38/13 40/23
41/16 46/20 48/13 51/23
52/15 53/5 53/16 53/20 75/4
75/5 75/15 82/7 83/6 84/25
87/7 90/14 96/19 101/4
106/10 113/16 113/17 113/25
114/19 118/11 118/16 129/12
134/17 135/4 136/9 144/18
146/14 148/5 148/20 158/19
164/13 169/16 169/22 171/18
172/18 175/8 175/17 181/10
181/19 183/8 183/13 183/14
183/15 185/22 186/4 186/10
186/10 188/10
heritage [2] 136/15 136/17
Hernandez [4] 38/3 97/24
98/1 139/6
herself [2] 44/24 170/7
hesitancy [3] 31/10 147/8
147/9
Hi [1] 29/11
hide [1] 49/9
high [10] 37/14 58/2 61/3
62/23 78/23 79/19 88/11
89/22 93/5 122/19
high-level [1] 37/14
Highway [1] 3/20
Hills [3] 10/12 107/3 172/24
him [29] 6/7 39/21 39/22
40/1 40/6 40/14 40/18 41/10
41/19 50/16 50/21 51/1 61/17
91/23 106/12 118/8 144/4
153/3 159/13 159/14 159/14
162/2 162/3 162/3 162/4
162/15 169/4 170/17 172/4
hired [1] 167/19
his [24] 42/12 43/13 45/19
50/15 62/13 119/24 137/5
154/10 159/7 159/9 159/20
160/21 162/18 164/21 166/7
166/9 167/8 170/17 172/2
172/5 172/7 185/5 188/18
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Hispanic [4] 112/15 112/16
112/19 113/12
history [1] 58/14
Hold [1] 186/10
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homemaker [2] 78/12 170/20
homeowners [1] 12/18
homes [1] 157/12
honest [4] 107/8 107/14
123/11 133/7
Honor [187]
Honor's [1] 46/7
HONORABLE [1] 1/3
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hope [4] 48/9 62/2 82/4
149/8
hopefully [1] 25/10
hospital [3] 117/4 118/7
118/10
hour [4] 25/16 82/3 82/6
135/9
hours [1] 25/13
house [15] 72/23 155/14
157/20 166/18 177/6 177/14
177/14 177/14 177/15 178/2
178/5 178/18 178/25 179/2
179/13
household [2] 72/22 74/8
housekeeping [1] 186/17
houses [1] 60/21
how [33] 6/17 30/10 31/6
41/3 42/6 42/20 42/23 52/4
56/17 63/19 75/3 85/3 85/15
93/11 96/19 107/10 107/12
110/20 111/19 112/20 123/3
144/18 151/12 151/13 151/15
151/20 152/25 156/13 156/23
174/9 177/10 178/16 187/17
However [1] 184/7
Huereque [3] 36/23 120/23
124/12
human [2] 32/1 132/23
hurtful [1] 49/3
husband [12] 77/3 95/16
95/18 95/23 106/25 107/9
109/3 110/24 136/23 156/6
170/12 175/1
husband's [1] 132/6
Hyunjoon [2] 32/15 55/3
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I'd [1] 6/15
I'm [19] 36/11 42/6 47/5
54/20 57/24 61/5 62/7 63/23
85/10 100/24 101/25 114/25
115/2 126/14 126/24 128/20
129/11 160/14 186/20
I've [1] 85/20
I.D [1] 4/7
ICANN [1] 104/24
idea [1] 84/4
identifiable [1] 9/13
identification [3] 19/17
156/14 156/19
identified [4] 154/22 156/12
173/2 173/10
identifiers [2] 156/17
156/17
identifies [1] 9/12
identify [9] 29/25 32/7
32/24 33/10 36/16 37/12
91/12 138/7 182/24
identities [18] 7/19 9/11
9/16 18/16 24/15 50/19
160/25 161/4 161/5 161/9
163/2 163/5 163/13 163/14
164/12 164/19 164/20 170/3
identity [33] 33/17 33/23
34/4 34/11 34/16 35/6 36/24
90/6 138/2 138/18 143/12
154/13 161/9 161/10 161/10
161/12 161/13 161/14 162/16
163/11 165/25 166/23 166/25
167/13 167/14 168/18 169/1
172/16 173/7 173/7 173/15
180/10 188/1
ignored [1] 162/18
image [4] 175/9 175/14
175/15 175/16
images [2] 155/3 155/12
Imani [2] 56/8 56/12
immediate [1] 113/22
impacted [2] 47/3 47/11
impartial [74] 30/5 32/12
33/5 34/10 34/21 36/25 37/3
37/17 39/1 40/10 44/6 44/11
46/8 51/13 53/8 58/4 59/17
60/15 61/24 63/12 65/5 65/11
67/9 68/11 69/17 71/11 72/14
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107/20 109/5 109/7 111/1
117/25 118/20 123/25 124/7
124/10 125/22 131/2 131/4
133/14 133/17 136/17 137/6
137/9 137/16 138/10 142/13
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impartiality [1] 74/21
impartially [1] 30/15
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importance [1] 150/5
important [7] 28/16 128/16
148/13 148/18 169/25 180/2
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imported [2] 20/14 25/2
imprimatur [1] 44/1
improper [1] 187/5
inappropriate [1] 162/22
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Inc [1] 126/18
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90/22 114/9
Inception [3] 14/16 14/16
165/20
incident [1] 59/10
inclined [2] 74/14 107/22
include [3] 51/11 51/12
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20/7 24/5 24/13 24/15 24/23
151/6 151/12 151/20 155/7
157/5 173/9
inconvenience [1] 83/8
Incorporated [8] 14/13 14/16
14/22 14/25 15/10 16/2 16/5
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incubator [1] 159/24
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indicating [1] 173/23
indicted [1] 167/19
indictment [20] 8/6 8/22
8/25 9/5 9/8 9/10 9/11 20/17
20/23 21/14 21/23 22/21 29/9
29/17 149/22 150/15 160/11
160/11 183/8 188/5
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individually [2] 169/25
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individuals [6] 18/16 153/15
155/16 156/4 156/20 173/1
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indulgence [1] 87/13
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101/11 114/3
influences [1] 181/9
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inform [2] 111/14 123/15
information [26] 7/4 7/19
9/13 9/15 13/1 13/9 13/15
33/11 33/18 35/2 39/16
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173/8 178/18 179/10
informed [2] 8/16 51/7
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initials [2] 15/22 16/10
Injury [4] 7/15 12/14 12/15
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177/17 178/21 184/7 186/19
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instructions [3] 52/2 52/4
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insure [1] 149/10
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intent [3] 21/8 22/7 178/20
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12/17 92/5
interested [1] 183/12
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Interiors [7] 14/22 14/22
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invite [1] 150/8
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involved [7] 50/2 51/2 51/24
100/17 100/21 123/7 123/10
involves [5] 7/7 7/11 107/5
165/13 166/4
involving [7] 23/10 50/18
146/15 158/21 158/22 164/12
169/23
IP [2] 163/18 168/13
IRS [6] 5/17 26/12 47/18
152/21 153/7 153/11
is [546]
Isaac [1] 115/16
Isabel [1] 94/11
isn't [6] 35/23 74/22 81/9
84/23 103/23 135/16
issue [18] 44/13 83/5 103/23
151/11 151/25 152/12 153/3
154/1 154/25 155/17 155/23
164/13 166/4 167/24 185/20
185/25 186/8 188/5
issued [2] 13/18 13/19
issues [3] 122/25 168/23
187/18
it [238]
it's [1] 63/16
item [2] 5/7 26/4
items [5] 21/21 21/22 156/7
156/8 157/15
its [16] 11/5 11/13 11/19
11/25 12/5 20/18 85/9 133/23
134/1 139/19 150/5 150/9
154/17 187/21 188/4 188/16
itself [1] 184/16
J
J-U-A-R-E-Z [2] 91/19 92/20
Jack [2] 38/2 139/5
jail [5] 63/10 91/13 176/1
177/6 179/6
January [3] 13/7 13/7 168/4
January 31st [2] 13/7 13/7
Jaung [1] 38/5
Jeff [2] 38/7 139/11
Jeffrey [1] 26/11
Jennifer [3] 3/12 26/21 35/1
jeopardizing [1] 25/21
jewelry [2] 20/13 25/2
job [7] 10/23 44/4 70/13
121/18 121/19 132/14 180/25
Jobe [2] 166/17 166/19
jobs [2] 43/1 66/18
John [4] 3/4 5/23 26/16
169/20
Johnnie [2] 42/11 43/4
Johnson [14] 2/14 2/17 2/19
2/22 3/19 3/20 6/1 26/23
36/4 52/16 114/16 134/7
135/1 182/5
joined [1] 5/20
joint [9] 158/20 158/24
160/12 160/14 160/17 165/10
165/14 165/15 168/24
Jonah [2] 6/2 26/24
Jong [1] 139/9
Josephine [4] 54/19 54/21
55/25 56/6
journeyman [1] 62/18
Joya [1] 131/7
JP [1] 167/24
Jr [1] 3/14
Juan [3] 33/13 89/2 89/4
Juarez [6] 91/19 92/20 92/21
93/22 99/10 114/9
judge [9] 1/4 38/15 44/9
44/23 121/24 123/12 188/13
188/14 188/17
judgment [1] 104/8
Julissa [2] 99/11 99/13
jumped [1] 44/15
JUNE [4] 1/17 5/1 171/13
171/15
June 8th [1] 171/15
juror [92] 30/14 31/19 32/11
32/12 32/22 32/23 35/22
35/24 37/7 38/21 39/11 39/14
40/24 40/25 48/25 51/6 52/6
53/12 53/14 53/17 53/23
53/24 53/25 54/2 54/7 54/9
54/11 54/14 54/23 54/24
54/25 55/3 55/4 55/5 55/7
56/7 56/8 56/9 56/10 56/12
56/12 56/16 56/17 58/9 59/20
60/18 62/2 62/6 67/12 74/14
74/18 74/19 75/10 77/24 78/4
81/25 82/1 82/9 82/10 83/25
87/16 87/18 87/22 88/25 92/2
92/8 94/5 97/22 99/10 101/18
102/12 104/2 106/13 106/15
106/20 110/9 111/25 112/5
113/17 120/2 128/17 128/21
128/24 129/2 134/5 134/9
134/16 138/16 140/13 144/10
147/3 147/10
jurors [50] 5/6 6/22 7/3 8/1
8/19 25/23 26/3 28/3 29/22
36/5 40/19 41/10 43/18 43/19
46/15 46/18 51/5 53/9 56/15
80/9 81/22 82/16 82/18 83/1
83/6 83/7 83/13 84/21 84/22
84/25 87/11 92/7 109/22
109/24 113/13 114/14 120/19
120/21 125/25 126/1 128/18
135/21 146/14 147/23 148/20
180/24 185/21 185/24 186/4
186/13
jury [101]
just [99]
justice [3] 2/4 2/9 133/13
Justin [4] 38/6 139/10 162/1
162/14
K
K-I-M [1] 55/4
K-I-S-H [1] 124/14
Kaiser [4] 70/2 115/23 117/6
118/7
Kaitlyn [1] 139/10
Kaminir [11] 29/12 32/9 33/1
37/13 54/24 55/6 55/11 65/17
65/18 65/21 65/21
Kathleen [2] 38/1 139/5
KATIE [1] 1/21
Katlyn [1] 38/7
Katzman [2] 3/4 3/7
Kauichko [16] 161/9 163/4
163/12 163/13 163/17 163/19
172/17 173/5 173/7 173/10
173/15 175/11 175/23 176/3
176/8 187/25
keep [7] 47/9 81/16 82/21
87/7 172/13 181/16 182/16
Keough [4] 2/19 5/20 26/15
159/12
key [1] 168/23
kick [1] 44/18
kids [2] 159/25 170/21
Kim [9] 32/15 38/7 55/4 55/8
55/23 67/12 67/13 97/23
139/11
kind [6] 37/12 100/15 100/21
116/19 175/10 177/13
kinds [2] 142/20 188/7
Kira [1] 145/3
Kish [3] 124/14 124/17
124/22
Kitchen [1] 125/8
knew [6] 44/18 150/23 172/25
173/6 176/5 176/6
know [77] 6/8 6/14 6/14 27/9
27/14 27/15 30/10 36/2 37/21
37/24 38/17 38/18 40/11
45/20 47/22 49/16 49/17
51/15 51/16 55/9 57/21 58/3
59/16 60/14 61/17 61/18
61/23 63/11 65/4 65/10 67/8
69/11 69/16 71/10 72/13
73/19 77/11 79/25 81/15
81/19 82/13 85/1 86/22 88/18
93/16 93/19 95/10 97/16 99/2
100/15 101/15 103/16 105/25
109/6 110/20 112/25 117/24
118/12 118/13 122/25 123/6
123/23 123/24 125/21 129/25
130/17 133/8 135/8 148/13
166/8 174/6 181/5 183/21
183/22 185/7 186/9 186/16
knowing [4] 23/12 43/19
128/12 178/22
knowingly [5] 21/7 22/7 23/9
23/17 160/7
knowledge [4] 13/10 35/7
50/15 123/16
known [9] 18/6 21/7 21/19
22/6 22/18 23/5 28/25 41/11
160/12
knows [5] 37/24 43/14 87/2
119/16 157/1
Kudiamov [3] 16/21 16/21
161/11
Kudiumov [3] 163/13 163/14
168/18
Kudiumov's [1] 163/18
L
L-A-M [1] 78/3
L-A-R-S [1] 56/7
La [2] 129/18 129/21
LAC [2] 64/3 64/5
lack [1] 184/9
Ladies [3] 147/18 150/11
157/21
Lam [2] 78/2 78/4
Lamps [1] 168/9
landlord [1] 108/15
language [18] 27/1 73/21
74/4 74/8 74/9 74/15 84/2
86/19 117/9 126/22 126/25
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language... [7] 127/1 127/11
127/18 128/11 140/15 176/15
178/8
languages [1] 128/13
LAPD [2] 50/9 51/8
large [1] 175/9
Lars [5] 56/3 56/7 69/20
69/21 69/22
Lasant [1] 139/8
last [19] 37/10 39/11 40/1
51/6 52/18 54/7 55/3 65/19
81/16 81/18 81/18 99/11
100/13 113/17 115/3 124/13
165/4 165/5 182/14
lately [1] 148/17
later [5] 18/1 21/1 22/1
22/25 188/11
laughing [2] 44/23 44/24
laundered [1] 20/4
laundering [6] 22/24 23/8
150/14 165/13 165/16 167/17
law [34] 3/15 3/20 10/17
30/17 31/3 31/20 38/13 45/1
45/21 45/22 45/24 45/25
46/20 46/21 46/23 47/17
47/22 52/7 66/7 77/4 81/1
81/3 81/9 85/17 101/21 104/3
107/2 134/2 139/21 149/24
155/1 155/24 156/11 157/13
lawyer [4] 40/11 149/20
167/19 183/18
lawyers [15] 25/9 28/17
42/15 43/2 53/6 53/6 53/7
66/2 66/3 118/16 149/18
149/23 150/5 181/10 182/22
lawyers' [1] 7/9
Leach [4] 29/3 30/2 32/16
54/17
lead [5] 48/16 50/17 66/5
128/23 161/25
lead-in [1] 66/5
leadership [1] 132/23
learn [1] 45/17
lease [2] 11/12 173/5
leased [1] 163/16
least [13] 8/23 12/12 18/2
21/2 22/2 23/1 52/23 154/20
158/21 164/23 165/8 181/22
187/19
leave [6] 13/20 112/6 112/7
129/2 180/22 183/23
lectern [1] 78/5
lecturn [3] 83/4 91/20
120/24
Lee [1] 139/7
left [6] 54/5 86/23 106/5
153/22 155/8 175/9
lemon [1] 45/1
lender [5] 14/5 14/6 28/20
136/21 137/15
lenders [7] 14/1 14/4 24/5
24/5 143/6 151/14 152/18
lending [5] 14/1 137/1 137/3
143/2 146/23
length [2] 25/7 135/2
lengthy [1] 63/10
less [1] 148/16
let [27] 27/11 27/16 29/23
29/24 30/14 35/9 39/2 41/3
41/5 41/19 44/14 51/22 53/15
62/8 81/19 87/7 91/10 101/17
106/21 111/21 113/22 129/25
133/21 180/22 185/14 186/5
186/9
let's [11] 85/3 85/5 87/7
110/23 120/15 120/22 130/24
138/22 139/18 139/25 185/3
letter [1] 78/7
level [2] 37/14 68/21
levity [1] 124/20
Lewis [1] 3/4
license [5] 61/7 154/12
154/21 155/10 155/13
licensed [2] 94/17 108/6
licenses [3] 154/14 154/18
155/4
life [7] 31/17 102/3 102/7
146/8 170/18 170/22 180/3
life's [2] 31/15 31/16
light [2] 44/13 107/19
like [44] 8/6 38/22 39/9
39/17 40/23 41/25 42/13
43/18 46/25 47/18 47/18 51/9
56/1 66/7 68/15 77/17 77/23
81/24 82/20 90/22 94/4 97/21
101/4 104/8 107/10 109/4
114/6 135/14 140/16 142/19
142/24 147/8 152/5 152/23
153/7 153/17 171/2 172/12
173/16 175/15 178/21 180/7
186/18 186/21
likely [1] 91/13
likewise [1] 174/11
limited [1] 37/12
limiting [1] 184/7
Limo [2] 17/24 17/24
line [2] 55/12 132/2
lineman [1] 62/18
linguist [1] 128/12
link [2] 151/16 179/22
Lisa [5] 29/11 32/9 33/1
37/13 54/24
list [3] 139/1 166/18 166/20
listed [1] 172/25
listen [8] 30/15 31/1 31/6
35/8 47/21 104/2 144/10
146/14
listened [1] 43/12
listening [1] 32/18
lists [2] 155/15 156/16
little [17] 40/4 44/2 44/13
45/7 47/6 56/4 69/5 69/25
74/10 74/13 83/17 91/9 91/25
101/9 127/6 150/4 181/19
Littrell [9] 3/4 3/4 3/7
5/24 26/17 83/2 83/14 86/21
169/20
Littwin [2] 38/1 139/5
live [7] 6/12 6/19 8/3 73/1
73/24 87/25 116/8
lived [3] 163/9 179/1 179/3
lives [2] 25/19 25/19
living [5] 78/15 116/6 116/9
154/3 154/8
LLC [3] 15/16 15/19 17/24
LLP [6] 2/14 2/17 2/19 2/22
3/4 3/7
lo [2] 44/20 44/21
loan [82] 7/12 7/15 11/1
11/2 11/4 11/8 11/10 11/18
12/1 12/3 12/5 12/6 12/10
12/11 12/13 12/14 12/15
12/24 13/11 13/14 13/18
13/19 13/23 13/24 13/25
19/15 19/22 20/5 24/4 24/6
24/12 28/21 29/2 29/4 29/8
29/12 30/11 32/22 33/2 33/3
77/4 106/16 107/2 107/11
137/21 137/21 143/9 146/17
150/17 150/22 151/11 151/19
151/22 151/25 152/11 153/15
153/16 154/1 154/5 154/9
154/21 154/25 155/7 155/23
156/25 157/3 157/5 159/6
159/8 160/21 161/2 165/15
166/6 166/9 167/1 167/15
168/13 168/14 170/2 172/25
173/11 180/8
loans [36] 7/18 7/20 10/23
12/21 13/5 14/4 14/6 18/17
18/23 19/5 19/7 24/8 29/6
30/4 30/8 30/23 144/3 146/16
146/17 150/13 152/4 153/19
158/12 158/13 158/23 160/6
160/18 161/1 161/4 161/15
163/15 163/17 167/8 167/9
170/13 173/3
local [1] 154/15
located [1] 172/23
location [3] 23/14 24/16
55/15
logistics [1] 67/14
LOL [1] 171/17
long [12] 27/7 44/2 58/14
84/17 84/19 93/11 117/20
135/6 141/14 164/4 164/11
187/15
long-running [2] 164/4
164/11
longer [2] 148/22 154/8
look [7] 40/4 41/10 43/20
54/4 81/20 86/17 113/21
looked [1] 36/1
looking [4] 6/11 52/25 53/2
175/8
looks [1] 171/2
LOS [19] 1/14 1/23 2/7 2/15
3/9 3/16 5/1 18/2 21/3 21/14
22/2 22/14 23/1 29/20 38/16
78/8 88/3 131/16 148/13
lose [1] 85/23
lot [5] 43/14 107/9 175/7
176/12 179/5
Louissaint [1] 174/22
Louissant [1] 38/5
low [1] 12/17
low-interest [1] 12/17
lowly [1] 40/3
lunch [4] 25/16 82/4 82/6
82/9
Luncheon [1] 82/24
luxury [2] 20/13 25/2
M
M-C-G-I-L-L-E-Y [1] 104/17
ma'am [25] 32/8 36/11 36/20
56/20 62/1 63/15 67/11 69/23
71/14 71/16 72/17 72/19
94/13 97/19 98/2 99/5 101/25
104/20 106/3 108/1 109/9
125/24 129/1 130/14 145/5
MacDonald [1] 139/10
machine [1] 34/18
made [19] 19/2 19/2 32/11
39/22 41/25 42/15 46/11 50/8
50/12 82/17 113/5 115/3
115/5 146/16 162/17 168/8
170/8 173/8 176/19
Madison [2] 38/6 139/10
mail [2] 173/9 173/9
main [1] 185/25
maintain [2] 11/11 27/10
maintained [1] 172/23
Major [1] 127/19
majority [1] 158/18
make [31] 7/2 8/10 11/6
11/11 25/10 25/20 28/13 30/5
30/16 39/9 40/16 43/23 45/3
45/8 53/7 55/9 65/9 81/14
82/14 91/13 113/21 118/4
118/5 124/19 140/5 144/11
146/17 149/13 158/6 169/6
182/3
makes [1] 148/21
making [5] 25/18 42/19 118/6
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making... [2] 182/8 183/12
man [3] 44/5 119/18 154/22
management [1] 67/21
manager [4] 89/7 97/2 105/8
126/20
manages [3] 159/25 160/1
160/1
Mandarin [4] 127/4 127/5
127/11 127/19
manner [2] 18/9 23/22
Manuk [20] 10/7 160/23
160/24 161/12 163/5 163/7
163/16 164/23 165/1 166/15
166/18 166/20 168/18 172/3
172/7 172/10 172/19 172/22
173/14 188/1
Manuk's [5] 163/8 163/20
163/24 166/21 168/19
Manukian [1] 166/15
many [10] 25/10 46/14 57/8
131/21 132/2 135/13 164/12
170/5 170/6 182/22
March [5] 10/18 18/1 21/2
22/1 22/25
March 20 [2] 21/2 22/25
March 2020 [3] 10/18 18/1
22/1
Marietta [20] 5/8 9/20 26/17
153/18 154/6 155/20 155/25
157/16 157/18 158/11 159/21
159/22 159/24 160/2 163/3
165/17 166/24 169/11 169/21
183/1
marital [1] 111/12
Mark [5] 38/2 139/5 166/5
166/11 166/12
Market [1] 2/20
marketing [1] 126/17
marriage [8] 108/6 110/10
110/11 110/15 110/19 110/23
113/18 113/25
married [39] 9/23 10/6 57/5
58/16 60/1 60/22 62/14 64/6
66/10 67/22 68/23 70/4 71/21
73/5 76/8 78/9 88/5 89/10
92/24 94/19 96/3 97/3 98/13
99/23 102/23 105/5 108/11
110/11 113/20 115/24 122/4
125/1 127/15 130/2 132/4
132/5 141/19 145/10 170/17
marry [1] 161/5
Marta [2] 56/9 56/13
Mary [3] 5/24 139/7 179/12
Mary's [1] 166/25
Marylee [1] 38/3
mask [4] 47/6 118/14 167/12
167/14
masks [2] 36/1 36/10
Massino [1] 38/6
master's [6] 69/10 76/21
105/18 108/22 132/22 132/22
Masterman [2] 38/6 139/10
match [2] 55/16 154/19
material [4] 21/11 21/12
22/11 22/13
materials [1] 181/5
matter [4] 52/5 123/9 134/20
144/11
matters [6] 82/5 101/4 123/7
123/7 134/15 183/17
may [55] 11/16 33/22 34/11
39/5 39/17 40/8 41/8 46/5
46/19 48/3 48/20 49/14 49/23
50/6 50/9 51/7 51/8 52/8
52/9 58/7 65/16 80/5 83/14
90/7 91/5 92/9 94/1 101/4
106/10 106/17 109/12 110/18
111/22 113/12 114/1 114/22
118/17 119/1 119/12 130/25
133/22 135/4 149/13 149/14
158/10 173/4 178/4 178/5
178/10 178/11 180/19 181/5
181/5 182/1 188/10
maybe [15] 41/3 41/12 44/6
44/14 45/5 49/16 52/23 62/9
81/18 107/16 136/4 136/6
185/7 186/8 186/15
MBA [1] 71/4
McDonald [1] 38/7
McGilley [2] 104/17 104/19
me [69] 9/10 21/21 26/24
27/6 27/11 27/16 29/23 29/24
30/14 31/22 33/17 33/20 35/9
40/12 41/2 43/17 44/14 45/3
45/4 45/8 46/12 49/6 49/12
51/22 52/17 53/15 62/9 66/5
73/20 79/9 81/14 81/19 83/7
83/21 88/1 90/13 90/15 91/11
96/15 101/17 102/5 103/18
104/10 106/21 106/24 113/9
113/22 114/25 116/9 123/13
123/14 123/15 124/2 128/22
128/23 132/23 142/16 143/16
144/9 149/24 169/15 180/22
181/22 182/12 185/14 186/2
186/5 186/9 187/20
mean [40] 30/13 38/20 41/2
49/4 49/6 74/22 75/20 83/8
84/8 85/3 90/13 90/15 92/14
101/3 101/12 101/13 103/22
103/24 107/9 112/20 113/1
113/3 113/9 113/10 121/12
121/18 124/6 124/19 130/17
134/3 135/4 142/16 144/2
174/6 174/6 174/10 176/20
186/1 187/3 187/4
meaning [1] 177/10
means [11] 9/1 18/9 21/11
21/23 22/11 23/22 43/2 45/11
73/20 104/10 178/1
meant [2] 50/6 158/12
mechanical [1] 9/1
Mechanics [2] 16/18 16/19
media [1] 29/13
mediator [1] 131/12
Medical [3] 64/3 64/5 94/15
medically [4] 131/18 134/9
134/10 134/15
medium [1] 65/24
meet [1] 148/23
meetings [1] 107/10
Megan [1] 159/10
Meghan [1] 2/16
member [33] 28/19 28/23 33/9
57/18 59/13 60/12 63/4 65/2
68/8 69/14 71/8 72/10 73/15
88/16 97/14 98/25 100/5
100/17 103/14 106/15 106/16
109/2 114/10 122/23 125/19
130/12 133/2 136/20 138/6
138/17 142/5 146/4 146/25
members [19] 8/20 27/5 46/6
57/21 76/25 79/23 87/12
88/15 93/17 95/4 95/6 105/22
106/23 114/8 143/5 143/7
149/8 157/10 163/9
Menendez [3] 42/3 42/8 42/14
mental [2] 42/17 174/5
mention [2] 90/7 95/7
mentioned [3] 106/22 119/13
163/2
Mesereau [9] 3/14 3/15 5/22
26/19 41/3 41/5 41/15 41/18
43/23
Mesino [1] 139/9
mess [1] 90/12
messages [9] 151/6 156/9
156/12 156/16 161/16 161/19
161/21 171/12 171/22
met [6] 39/21 40/1 40/14
41/23 119/17 119/18
metadata [1] 179/10
metaphysically [1] 65/10
Miami [3] 173/18 175/20
176/7
mic [1] 29/24
Michael [6] 2/19 5/20 26/15
38/4 139/8 159/11
microphone [9] 28/5 56/18
56/19 78/5 87/21 89/3 126/8
136/4 159/1
might [7] 44/12 84/3 96/9
175/19 183/12 184/11 186/12
mike [1] 28/11
mikes [2] 28/6 28/7
mild [2] 142/1 142/1
mild-mod [1] 142/1
mild-severe [1] 142/1
million [1] 12/21
mind [11] 9/3 30/21 30/24
43/25 104/9 142/24 144/8
162/18 172/13 181/17 182/16
mindset [1] 30/14
minimum [1] 12/12
minor [1] 63/2
minute [10] 35/18 35/23 54/3
54/11 56/4 56/10 65/8 115/2
120/9 135/15
minutes [3] 25/15 83/10
148/2
Mirada [2] 129/19 129/22
Miriam [1] 47/2
misdemeanor [2] 59/7 117/20
misprinted [1] 155/18
missed [1] 131/2
misspoke [1] 120/16
Mitchky [1] 139/12
Mitschke [1] 38/8
mix [1] 170/5
mixed [4] 90/18 90/20 90/21
91/11
mod [9] 14/22 14/22 15/12
142/1 167/2 167/2 167/5
167/6 167/9
Modi [2] 38/3 139/7
mom [1] 138/8
moment [11] 39/6 48/4 52/15
80/5 91/5 94/1 109/12 111/22
119/1 135/12 169/19
monetary [1] 23/18
money [33] 11/22 21/10 22/23
23/8 143/15 150/15 150/19
150/25 151/19 151/20 151/21
152/6 152/8 152/18 152/25
157/3 157/5 157/6 157/8
157/11 160/14 165/13 165/16
165/17 165/19 165/21 166/14
166/16 167/17 168/2 179/15
179/20 180/1
Monica [1] 3/15
monies [2] 12/5 22/8
month [5] 13/3 13/4 13/6
13/6 118/9
monthly [1] 11/20
more [37] 6/20 8/8 25/11
28/2 38/20 41/13 41/15 43/20
43/22 46/14 49/13 50/25 55/9
56/20 57/14 69/25 74/11 79/9
82/19 84/12 86/14 91/13
91/22 104/23 106/21 107/17
107/22 111/19 113/1 113/13
113/13 120/19 124/21 126/1
128/12 156/3 181/21
Morgan [1] 167/25
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26/20 26/22 27/4 27/5 35/16
36/12 36/22 38/15 135/15
148/12 150/12 150/16 185/21
185/24
mortgage [4] 11/11 13/21
164/11 164/21
mortgages [1] 12/8
most [3] 38/20 85/3 86/18
motion [15] 32/2 35/12 39/9
39/13 43/17 50/8 50/12 91/1
91/2 91/16 102/9 104/13
104/15 107/23 107/25
motions [1] 102/10
motivating [1] 113/6
motivation [2] 113/9 113/10
motivator [1] 87/7
moved [3] 165/21 166/14
166/17
moving [2] 87/8 157/8
Mr [8] 5/22 41/16 43/23
63/16 92/11 119/13 119/18
159/15
Mr. [60] 28/5 32/16 38/17
40/9 41/3 41/5 41/9 41/15
41/17 41/18 41/23 43/13
43/17 53/1 54/17 54/23 55/8
55/23 58/10 59/20 65/8 67/12
67/13 69/20 78/4 83/2 83/14
86/21 88/25 89/5 92/13 93/22
94/6 97/23 99/10 114/9 118/7
119/16 119/16 119/17 119/24
119/24 120/1 124/12 166/5
167/16 167/18 170/17 170/19
171/20 171/25 175/1 175/16
175/19 179/3 179/18 180/3
180/5 184/6 185/7
Mr. Adam [1] 54/17
Mr. Ambrose [1] 88/25
Mr. Ayvazian [10] 167/16
170/17 170/19 171/20 171/25
175/1 179/3 179/18 180/3
180/5
Mr. Ayvazian's [2] 175/16
175/19
Mr. Cruz [2] 28/5 53/1
Mr. Dadyan [1] 185/7
Mr. Diaz [1] 58/10
Mr. Diolosa [5] 118/7 119/16
119/17 119/24 120/1
Mr. Fenton [1] 184/6
Mr. Garcetti [6] 38/17 40/9
41/9 41/17 41/23 43/17
Mr. Garcetti's [1] 43/13
Mr. Huereque [1] 124/12
Mr. Juarez [3] 93/22 99/10
114/9
Mr. Kim [5] 55/8 55/23 67/12
67/13 97/23
Mr. Lam [1] 78/4
Mr. Lars [1] 69/20
Mr. Leach [1] 32/16
Mr. Littrell [3] 83/2 83/14
86/21
Mr. Mesereau [4] 41/3 41/5
41/15 41/18
Mr. Ram [2] 119/16 119/24
Mr. Regidor [2] 54/23 65/8
Mr. Richard [1] 167/18
Mr. Wilson [2] 59/20 94/6
Mr. Zaragoza [2] 89/5 92/13
Mr. Zindroski [1] 166/5
Ms [4] 53/22 62/2 63/16
68/15
Ms. [92] 35/21 53/18 54/8
55/6 55/11 56/16 56/22 58/8
60/18 62/8 62/8 62/11 65/17
65/21 68/14 69/19 69/22
71/15 72/18 77/24 77/25 82/1
82/2 87/16 110/13 112/1
112/1 114/7 114/8 114/18
114/19 114/24 114/25 115/10
124/17 124/22 124/22 126/10
129/7 129/8 129/10 131/1
131/3 140/14 140/24 169/15
169/24 170/1 170/4 170/6
170/9 170/11 170/12 170/13
170/16 170/20 170/23 171/14
171/18 171/21 171/21 172/1
172/1 172/16 173/16 173/19
173/23 173/25 174/21 174/25
175/4 175/12 175/15 176/4
176/5 176/11 178/20 179/1
179/3 179/8 179/20 179/23
179/25 180/3 180/6 180/7
180/9 180/10 180/14 187/23
187/24 188/2
Ms. Ahn [2] 170/6 176/11
Ms. Ambrose [6] 54/8 62/8
62/8 62/11 114/7 114/24
Ms. Calloway [1] 71/15
Ms. Chia [5] 68/14 69/19
82/1 82/2 87/16
Ms. Claudia [1] 53/18
Ms. Dadyan [2] 171/18 172/1
Ms. Garcia [1] 169/15
Ms. Guerrero [5] 129/8
129/10 131/1 131/3 140/24
Ms. Kaminir [4] 55/6 55/11
65/17 65/21
Ms. Kish [2] 124/17 124/22
Ms. Lars [1] 69/22
Ms. Orlando [7] 110/13 112/1
112/1 114/18 114/19 114/25
115/10
Ms. Quiche [1] 124/22
Ms. Reyes [4] 60/18 77/24
77/25 114/8
Ms. Roberts [1] 72/18
Ms. Terabelian [36] 169/24
170/1 170/4 170/9 170/11
170/13 170/16 170/20 171/14
171/21 171/21 172/1 172/16
173/16 173/19 173/23 173/25
174/21 174/25 175/4 175/12
176/4 176/5 179/1 179/3
179/23 179/25 180/3 180/6
180/7 180/9 180/10 180/14
187/23 187/24 188/2
Ms. Terabelian's [6] 170/12
170/23 175/15 178/20 179/8
179/20
Ms. Tseng [3] 126/10 129/7
140/14
Ms. Turkat [1] 35/21
Ms. Vargas [3] 56/16 56/22
58/8
much [15] 6/20 32/5 34/5
43/22 45/15 66/4 67/18 75/15
82/17 111/19 115/12 123/3
129/11 134/19 152/25
multi [1] 29/13
multi-media [1] 29/13
multimillion [1] 157/12
multiple [5] 155/9 158/24
158/24 167/8 176/14
must [3] 83/16 175/2 179/12
my [104]
myself [2] 73/25 142/21
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N-E-W [1] 156/13
name [84] 4/3 14/13 14/16
14/19 14/22 14/25 15/3 15/7
15/10 15/16 15/19 15/22 16/2
16/5 16/8 16/15 16/18 16/21
17/1 17/4 17/8 17/12 17/16
17/19 17/24 28/16 29/3 29/11
30/1 32/15 34/15 35/1 35/17
36/23 38/16 54/14 55/3 55/17
63/21 87/23 89/4 92/21 99/12
124/21 124/23 126/18 153/1
154/7 154/10 154/23 155/10
155/21 155/22 156/1 156/2
159/7 159/10 159/18 160/21
163/10 163/24 165/1 165/3
165/4 165/5 165/19 165/20
166/4 166/7 166/9 166/12
166/13 167/6 167/8 167/25
168/1 168/3 168/14 169/18
173/5 182/14 182/25 184/14
185/5
named [3] 154/13 161/8 183/8
namely [1] 12/7
names [42] 9/13 9/17 18/22
24/7 24/15 37/23 38/11 54/15
55/14 104/25 139/13 152/16
152/16 153/15 153/17 153/19
155/6 155/8 155/16 156/4
156/17 156/24 157/6 157/7
157/9 158/12 158/13 159/17
160/19 160/23 163/4 163/18
163/24 163/25 164/2 165/23
166/19 170/13 173/10 182/11
182/11 182/12
nanny [4] 59/1 72/20 72/21
74/7
National [3] 77/7 107/1
107/2
nationals [1] 153/20
native [3] 73/21 75/1 128/2
Natural [1] 126/18
nature [2] 23/13 24/16
navigate [2] 129/11 181/19
Navy [7] 121/8 121/9 121/12
121/17 121/21 121/23 122/1
Nazar [1] 166/25
nearly [1] 87/5
necessary [1] 113/10
need [8] 50/23 112/5 120/11
125/25 160/9 171/15 171/17
171/19
needed [3] 171/20 172/2
180/5
needs [2] 46/1 187/10
negative [5] 40/17 42/1
42/18 122/14 122/22
Netflix [1] 105/9
never [9] 44/25 45/20 75/6
117/14 123/12 133/1 152/15
152/17 153/4
new [9] 2/10 2/18 81/19
84/11 120/20 156/13 156/23
171/6 171/15
Newcomer [2] 2/16 159/10
news [2] 50/1 51/24
next [13] 6/24 67/12 71/15
72/18 80/3 93/23 97/19 99/5
106/6 109/11 118/24 119/21
144/18
nice [2] 45/15 45/16
Nicholas [4] 2/22 38/4 139/7
159/11
niece [1] 63/9
Ninth [2] 80/25 81/3
no [211]
No. [73] 37/8 44/12 45/3
45/4 53/12 53/14 53/17 53/23
53/24 53/25 54/2 54/9 54/12
54/23 54/24 55/3 55/4 55/5
55/7 55/22 55/23 55/25 56/3
56/6 56/7 56/8 56/9 56/10
56/12 56/13 56/16 58/9 59/20
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No.... [35] 78/3 78/4 81/25
82/1 87/16 87/22 88/25 89/3
94/5 94/6 97/22 99/10 106/4
106/13 106/15 106/20 110/9
111/25 112/5 118/23 120/25
124/13 129/8 130/16 130/18
130/24 140/7 140/14 140/17
140/21 140/24 141/1 141/3
145/1 147/10
No. 1 [6] 45/3 53/12 53/17
56/16 120/25 124/13
No. 10 [2] 56/3 56/7
No. 11 [3] 56/8 56/10 56/12
No. 12 [10] 56/9 56/13 75/23
106/13 106/15 106/20 110/9
111/25 112/5 118/23
No. 2 [5] 44/12 45/4 53/14
53/23 58/9
No. 3 [10] 53/24 59/20 94/5
94/6 130/18 140/7 140/14
140/17 140/21 140/24
No. 4 [11] 53/25 60/18 78/3
78/4 129/8 130/16 130/24
141/1 141/3 145/1 147/10
No. 5 [7] 54/2 62/2 62/6
88/25 89/3 99/10 106/4
No. 6 [4] 37/8 54/9 54/12
54/23
No. 7 [1] 54/24
No. 8 [7] 55/3 55/4 55/5
55/7 55/22 55/23 97/22
No. 9 [7] 55/25 56/6 62/5
81/25 82/1 87/16 87/22
None [2] 4/4 4/8
nonprofit [2] 29/13 32/23
nonprofits [1] 29/19
noon [2] 25/14 82/3
Nordstrom [2] 71/18 71/20
North [2] 2/6 3/20
Northridge [2] 78/20 99/20
Norwalk [1] 129/18
not [143]
note [4] 6/4 82/14 111/11
155/21
noted [1] 174/24
notes [4] 46/11 155/13
163/25 164/1
nothing [4] 66/7 113/19
142/14 142/14
notice [2] 147/7 147/9
noticed [1] 6/3
noticing [1] 148/16
noting [1] 188/15
notion [1] 7/10
notwithstanding [5] 31/17
33/25 34/20 37/1 37/16
now [55] 6/12 6/14 25/24
35/23 40/10 48/8 50/11 50/23
50/24 51/12 51/20 52/7 53/17
54/25 56/14 58/9 60/18 63/16
77/21 82/14 85/9 87/3 87/18
88/22 98/7 99/6 106/12
107/17 109/20 109/24 111/6
112/12 112/17 115/2 117/5
120/9 120/18 129/7 131/12
134/21 135/19 135/19 136/1
136/4 147/13 147/20 147/25
149/11 158/16 160/18 171/11
181/6 182/10 183/7 186/7
number [15] 11/20 13/2 17/5
17/9 19/6 37/20 39/21 45/22
84/15 152/23 154/11 155/22
167/10 167/15 185/11
numbers [8] 9/14 104/25
156/14 156/19 156/19 158/23
164/1 166/19
numerous [1] 155/3
nurse [6] 64/1 64/9 94/18
115/21 116/2 116/12
nursing [3] 117/1 117/8
118/18
NW [2] 2/10 2/23
NY [1] 2/18
O
o'clock [5] 82/5 87/6 148/12
180/16 180/21
oar [1] 72/8
oath [1] 31/18
object [2] 75/18 91/24
objection [14] 86/12 162/7
162/20 164/6 164/7 164/14
172/9 174/2 174/3 176/17
176/19 177/18 177/20 177/22
objective [1] 36/19
objectively [4] 30/15 47/23
142/9 144/11
objects [5] 17/25 18/10
20/18 22/24 23/23
obligation [1] 149/15
obligations [2] 13/21 103/19
observant [1] 45/24
observe [1] 36/7
obtain [9] 11/1 11/8 12/24
21/10 22/8 24/8 30/12 150/13
165/15
obtained [6] 13/23 20/5
30/11 151/19 157/3 160/6
obtaining [2] 30/23 30/23
occasionally [1] 118/8
occasions [1] 39/22
occupation [46] 56/25 58/10
58/18 59/21 60/19 62/11
62/16 63/25 64/8 65/22 66/12
67/13 68/17 68/25 69/23 70/6
71/16 72/19 76/1 76/10 78/6
78/11 88/2 89/6 89/12 92/22
96/25 98/2 99/14 102/19
104/20 105/7 108/5 108/13
115/20 116/1 121/1 122/6
124/17 126/11 129/13 131/10
132/7 137/6 141/9 145/5
occur [2] 148/3 171/22
October [1] 23/1
October 2020 [1] 23/1
off [3] 80/15 173/25 188/19
offenses [2] 23/6 169/1
offered [2] 29/19 188/12
office [9] 2/4 3/20 9/4
26/24 40/3 46/22 107/3
126/12 126/21
officer [13] 40/12 46/23
50/9 51/7 131/12 131/14
131/20 131/25 133/12 173/20
174/20 174/22 174/24
officers [6] 47/12 47/16
47/22 155/25 173/21 176/8
offices [2] 46/20 47/17
official [4] 1/21 153/24
154/7 154/22
oh [13] 28/7 39/18 39/25
54/8 63/5 75/25 83/6 106/7
115/2 125/13 133/3 133/19
142/18
OJ [3] 40/16 42/2 42/8
okay [58] 8/11 8/14 25/23
27/4 28/7 28/13 35/14 45/14
46/16 52/1 54/1 54/8 54/23
55/6 55/24 56/14 62/7 63/24
65/20 67/12 77/10 80/16 82/2
82/23 87/9 87/17 87/19 89/5
91/4 93/24 109/16 110/7
110/14 111/5 114/12 118/6
118/24 119/20 122/17 125/25
129/9 130/24 134/5 134/24
135/19 137/5 137/10 140/24
141/5 144/20 145/2 147/25
169/17 180/15 182/1 184/23
185/15 185/19
old [4] 59/8 75/3 118/9
170/21
older [1] 78/19
oldest [1] 78/18
once [2] 148/18 162/17
one [62] 1/15 7/4 10/21 11/9
18/6 23/5 35/18 41/7 44/10
45/21 50/15 51/7 52/7 52/15
53/15 53/15 54/3 54/11 56/4
56/10 58/25 72/24 72/25
78/18 78/18 78/19 78/22
80/12 80/14 80/18 84/5 85/6
85/15 88/16 100/13 101/14
106/23 109/17 111/10 111/22
114/2 116/8 116/14 118/16
139/23 148/20 150/13 154/5
154/20 156/22 156/24 158/10
158/16 158/25 167/9 171/23
174/22 175/3 176/24 183/12
185/20 186/17
ones [1] 86/2
ongoing [1] 135/11
only [20] 8/17 8/22 8/25
30/7 30/16 30/21 30/24 32/1
49/19 56/15 59/9 77/3 85/21
119/15 150/5 158/3 163/10
167/13 168/16 185/6
open [4] 40/25 100/23 101/1
152/1
opened [3] 33/19 166/11
166/12
opening [21] 148/10 149/12
149/13 149/17 149/18 150/9
158/7 161/3 162/23 169/7
170/7 170/10 174/7 180/19
182/3 182/8 183/10 183/12
183/17 185/16 187/7
operated [1] 161/12
operating [1] 117/12
operational [1] 152/24
operations [1] 13/1
opportunity [4] 157/24
174/12 174/15 184/11
opposed [1] 40/25
opposition [1] 91/4
Optum [1] 94/14
order [6] 5/12 11/1 11/7
24/16 101/18 110/3
ordered [1] 181/2
organizations [1] 29/19
organized [1] 53/16
Orlando [11] 87/20 108/2
108/3 110/13 112/1 112/1
112/16 114/18 114/19 114/25
115/10
other [82] 10/24 11/19 18/14
18/20 19/1 19/11 19/20 19/21
20/3 20/21 21/20 22/9 22/19
24/2 24/11 24/20 28/20 32/11
32/22 43/18 43/19 43/21
46/25 48/15 51/1 51/23 59/9
66/8 73/24 74/1 81/7 84/5
84/7 85/23 101/14 110/22
114/2 114/3 114/6 116/14
119/15 120/2 125/25 127/1
128/18 133/20 135/9 135/10
135/23 142/7 149/19 151/6
152/5 153/19 155/5 157/7
157/10 157/15 161/6 161/20
163/24 164/1 169/6 170/1
173/10 174/12 175/5 179/6
179/17 179/21 180/8 180/19
181/1 181/8 181/15 181/22
182/3 182/18 184/2 184/17
185/5 187/13
others [12] 18/6 20/22 20/23
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22/6 22/18 22/20 23/5 43/6
102/12 124/2
otherwise [4] 8/7 48/16
162/9 181/4
our [4] 33/18 41/14 80/18
169/24
out [22] 7/8 18/10 18/11
23/23 23/24 27/8 30/9 34/18
34/19 44/18 83/9 85/4 107/13
116/8 118/16 146/8 149/9
154/10 174/13 184/6 187/6
187/7
outline [1] 150/1
outset [2] 27/16 135/14
outside [14] 5/5 8/1 39/20
48/24 70/15 80/9 82/15 83/12
87/10 112/10 120/20 168/11
181/8 181/24
over [8] 8/8 8/8 55/11 82/6
104/7 109/4 158/23 160/25
overall [1] 113/22
overlapping [2] 164/18
164/20
overt [2] 20/16 20/22
overview [1] 157/22
overwhelming [1] 158/18
own [16] 12/5 20/5 24/22
29/6 43/13 153/17 154/7
158/12 160/19 160/21 165/18
165/23 176/23 180/25 187/21
188/4
owned [3] 22/9 163/7 167/3
owner [1] 154/13
owners [2] 173/2 173/11
ownership [2] 23/14 24/17
P
P-E-R-E-Z [1] 96/23
p.m [4] 82/24 149/5 149/5
171/15
Pacific [1] 3/20
pack [1] 120/10
PAETTY [3] 2/5 5/14 26/9
PAGE [1] 4/3
paid [4] 19/6 152/23 153/8
154/9
Palm [1] 20/12
Palmerton [4] 162/1 162/14
162/17 163/2
pandemic [7] 7/13 10/20
12/23 27/9 56/21 82/20
137/22
panel [22] 6/14 6/20 8/20
27/5 27/22 27/25 28/2 37/24
46/6 46/15 51/21 52/25 65/9
84/18 87/13 109/15 109/19
119/5 119/23 120/20 120/21
147/16
panelists [2] 148/25 149/1
Para [1] 139/9
paragraph [1] 13/17
pardon [1] 91/21
parlor [1] 116/21
Paronyan [23] 10/11 17/13
17/19 17/19 18/5 18/13 18/20
19/1 19/11 19/19 19/24 20/3
20/20 21/6 21/18 22/5 22/17
23/4 24/2 24/10 24/20 185/2
185/4
Parra [1] 38/6
Parsons [1] 57/4
part [8] 13/15 23/13 42/3
84/23 107/11 164/15 170/23
178/12
partially [1] 103/22
participated [2] 21/9 22/8
participating [3] 12/2 12/4
184/3
participation [3] 27/14
50/15 179/21
particular [2] 122/8 171/14
parties [6] 27/13 31/14
80/19 80/21 126/4 143/21
parts [2] 6/21 8/6
party [5] 84/5 84/18 187/23
188/5 188/15
party's [1] 25/21
Pasadena [1] 118/7
pass [13] 80/10 80/11 80/14
80/19 84/4 84/17 85/7 85/7
85/23 86/5 110/1 110/5
179/20
passed [6] 81/7 81/8 81/8
110/2 111/5 120/9
passes [1] 85/23
passing [6] 81/2 81/11 81/19
83/16 83/17 83/21
past [5] 95/16 123/2 123/3
133/9 133/10
pattern [2] 174/19 175/10
Paul [7] 54/3 54/11 55/10
56/4 56/10 136/4 138/14
Pause [1] 7/24
pay [1] 152/9
Paycheck [6] 7/14 10/15
10/25 150/16 150/18 156/2
Payetta [2] 6/2 26/24
payment [2] 175/6 175/18
payments [4] 11/12 11/12
11/12 13/22
payroll [13] 11/11 11/20
11/25 12/8 12/13 13/20 19/16
152/5 152/21 152/24 153/8
153/11 156/14
peace [3] 33/14 59/7 75/22
PennyMac [1] 137/4
people [41] 8/9 27/6 27/18
28/8 43/23 46/11 46/19 47/21
48/13 48/16 49/1 49/5 49/8
49/11 49/11 49/14 51/24
73/24 74/1 84/11 86/1 87/9
112/18 113/2 113/8 131/21
142/9 144/5 146/15 146/20
147/14 155/6 155/8 157/7
159/16 160/22 161/7 164/25
170/5 173/21 181/6
people's [3] 161/6 163/24
164/1
perceive [1] 52/5
peremptories [4] 85/10 85/12
85/15 113/6
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84/15 84/20 85/6 85/8 112/18
139/19
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13/6 13/6
permanent [1] 15/6
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117/6
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177/4
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83/5 114/1 116/16 121/10
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16/20 17/11 17/18 20/6 24/22
25/19 33/2 33/11 40/13 40/15
90/6 102/3 102/7 134/14
134/19 151/2 152/9 156/17
167/10 167/15
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45/10 45/12 47/3 47/11
101/23 102/2 103/18 104/6
123/12
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26/22 36/4 52/16 114/16
134/7 135/1 182/5
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74/22 177/6 177/7 177/13
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155/3 175/18
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183/20 185/6 185/8 185/9
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184/1 184/2 184/25 185/5
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185/11 186/19 186/23
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26/7 27/21 27/23 32/15 36/13
37/7 75/22 75/25 78/2 78/5
83/8 87/21 89/3 91/19 94/12
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plexiglass [1] 129/12
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43/16 84/5 84/7 85/14 86/16
111/21 113/14 119/16 133/20
140/4 147/14 149/21 174/13
178/6 182/18 186/18 187/9
police [4] 47/3 47/11 47/12
47/16
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possession [7] 95/9 100/9
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11/4 11/8 11/10 11/18 11/23
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167/8 173/3 173/11
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prepared [1] 153/4
preparer [1] 153/1
preschool [3] 129/17 129/18
129/25
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26/3 39/20 46/18 48/24 51/5
80/9 81/22 82/16 83/1 83/13
87/11 112/10 114/14 149/7
181/25 184/8 184/9
present [19] 5/19 5/22 6/1
25/22 26/9 26/19 26/23 45/25
123/1 123/2 149/15 151/9
157/23 161/18 164/4 164/10
167/11 174/22 184/20
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66/4 135/13 143/16
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69/17 71/11 72/14 77/12 80/1
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117/25 123/24 125/22 133/13
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51/20 149/17
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146/8
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101/8 101/15 123/4 132/1
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131/20 131/25 132/2 133/11
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probe [2] 91/9 111/19
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procedure [1] 53/21
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162/13 162/23
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7/24 7/25 8/2 8/18 25/20
26/2 39/19 46/17 48/23 51/4
80/8 81/21 82/15 82/25 83/12
87/10 112/9 114/13 149/6
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12/13 19/22 20/5 23/10 23/14
24/7 24/12 24/21
process [4] 81/5 85/5 85/11
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10/15 10/24 10/25 11/6 12/14
12/15 12/17 29/16 29/18
107/11 129/18 129/18 129/25
150/17 150/18 150/18 156/3
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24/24 29/8 137/21 150/14
150/16 151/25 152/1
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20/13 21/10 22/9 23/19 23/19
24/25 25/1 25/1 67/20 67/21
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prosecutors [1] 53/6
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8/19 26/3 27/22 29/22 46/18
48/24 51/5 80/9 81/22 82/9
82/16 83/1 83/13 87/11
112/10 114/14
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10/25 150/17 150/18 156/2
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159/6 159/7
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proven [3] 104/1 168/24
169/3
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166/21 168/25
provide [5] 10/18 11/25
12/20 13/1 150/19
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13/16 151/14 152/11 153/12
154/18 154/21 157/21
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130/8 132/22 132/22
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157/12 160/7 165/22 168/8
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163/9 165/23 168/5
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pursue [2] 11/16 39/14
pursuing [1] 72/5
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55/14 55/17 62/9 62/9 77/17
102/3 103/23 157/1 167/14
175/2 186/13
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166/10 166/13 166/16
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122/23 125/19 127/7 136/3
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27/25 28/3 32/17 32/18 41/5
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56/15 56/23 82/8 92/14
106/21 107/17 128/23 135/21
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136/11 142/8 146/13 162/4
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Ram [8] 2/13 5/18 26/13
119/13 119/16 119/18 119/24
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Rassoulpour [1] 141/6
reach [9] 31/1 31/19 64/18
67/2 70/24 79/12 79/14 103/8
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react [1] 144/8
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37/23 49/10 50/1 51/23 74/12
81/17 136/16 139/2 139/21
144/8 150/15 187/8
reading [2] 76/7 86/9
ready [1] 185/16
real [4] 85/25 161/5 161/7
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43/5 188/20
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82/4 82/24 148/1 149/5
180/18 182/2
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135/20 142/7 170/8
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163/6 163/7 170/16 188/4
relates [1] 46/8
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relationship [3] 110/19
119/14 170/22
relationships [4] 110/22
110/23 111/12 113/25
relatives [2] 158/13 170/13
release [2] 167/17 169/1
relevant [6] 9/10 14/1 49/19
184/16 187/18 187/22
relied [1] 152/5
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remarks [1] 42/21
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50/11 50/14 81/4 82/10 82/11
83/9 119/19 135/19 167/25
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remiss [1] 107/16
render [1] 147/21
rent [2] 12/8 13/21
renters [1] 12/18
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repercussions [1] 103/20
repertory [1] 29/14
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REPORTER'S [1] 1/13
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62/13 156/14
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21/11 22/12
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requested [1] 50/13
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11/14 11/19 11/24 12/6 12/25
13/8 31/18 43/15 152/8
requirements [3] 20/8 24/24
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10/3 10/7 10/9 10/11 10/13
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20/11 20/12 24/25 24/25 25/1
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57/15 186/23
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43/15 138/1 139/17
response [5] 46/6 52/21
85/21 92/14 174/25
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150/25 151/19 152/18
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121/7 121/8 131/11 131/19
134/9 134/11 134/16
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77/25 114/8
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161/23 162/18 171/6 171/15
175/1 176/10 179/18
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18/12 18/18 18/24 19/9 19/18
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24/18 26/5 26/14 153/18
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159/15 159/20 159/21 159/22
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172/19 173/13 175/6 183/2
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25/6 25/22 26/25 33/8 33/20
34/14 34/25 35/12 36/8 36/20
39/2 43/9 48/2 48/9 49/21
51/19 52/9 52/10 52/15 53/9
54/5 54/6 55/11 55/20 58/7
62/3 65/16 69/19 77/14 77/20
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rise [3] 28/15 147/15 147/17
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role [1] 170/24
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rolling [1] 107/13
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117/13 148/6
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81/18 85/6 85/7 85/8
row [7] 27/6 84/17 109/17
124/13 175/23 185/22 186/13
rows [1] 28/8
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run [1] 164/5
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Ryan [7] 3/7 5/24 26/17
169/10 169/18 169/20 183/18
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118/16 124/2 125/13 128/15
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181/18 184/6 187/18 187/19
sales [1] 70/7
salesperson [1] 71/17
same [43] 13/25 34/9 47/19
50/18 50/19 50/19 51/13
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90/1 90/14 93/16 95/4 97/14
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122/23 125/19 130/21 155/10
160/13 164/12 165/3 186/2
San [4] 2/21 3/6 116/15
116/18
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Santana [1] 47/2
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140/1 144/22
save [1] 84/20
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say [42] 6/16 6/20 7/8 25/8
34/23 35/19 40/9 41/3 43/7
45/5 48/5 49/2 49/4 62/2
63/19 65/17 75/20 85/5 85/20
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115/3 123/4 129/20 132/11
133/6 134/9 134/10 138/15
142/19 150/5 152/15 153/3
158/13 183/23 183/23 184/11
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saying [14] 7/5 8/4 31/3
31/9 50/25 84/13 90/23 95/18
109/23 118/11 171/16 172/15
178/4 187/4
says [5] 81/10 172/18 172/21
175/11 179/12
SBA [22] 12/16 12/20 12/25
13/12 13/19 14/4 14/6 19/3
19/13 21/9 24/4 24/5 28/25
29/2 29/4 29/15 137/11
137/15 146/16 151/24 152/3
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scanned [1] 34/17
Schaeffer [2] 34/16 54/14
schedule [1] 87/4
schematic [1] 53/20
scheme [9] 20/25 21/9 21/16
22/8 22/22 158/25 160/14
160/16 179/2
schemes [1] 158/25
school [19] 58/2 58/13 58/14
61/3 61/4 61/6 62/23 75/6
76/4 78/23 79/19 88/11 89/22
93/5 97/10 117/2 122/19
129/19 141/14
SCOTT [3] 2/5 5/13 26/8
screen [2] 171/11 175/17
search [1] 163/21
searched [3] 153/9 154/17
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seat [16] 32/16 37/8 48/6
75/23 78/2 82/14 87/22 89/3
106/4 114/20 118/23 124/13
130/16 130/18 134/6 140/6
seated [13] 5/12 26/7 27/23
39/14 58/7 65/16 82/11 83/14
130/15 144/16 147/24 169/21
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53/15 109/17 116/11 151/14
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section [1] 40/2
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102/19 115/20 118/3 121/1
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92/7 95/14 123/14 131/2
138/12 140/5
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177/6 181/15
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165/1 171/8 171/17
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95/16 95/19 152/21 153/1
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68/22 76/6 141/16 141/17
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68/18 68/19 69/1 76/2 76/3
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46/10 52/8 61/12 61/15 66/6
67/19 79/9 81/14 90/4 90/15
93/9 96/9 96/19 100/7 102/5
106/24 133/5 134/20 134/21
142/16 143/14 144/9 146/6
164/11 166/8 174/15 182/23
183/11 187/20
teller [1] 143/4
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104/10 171/12 176/20 178/9
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ten [1] 123/5
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9/20 9/22 15/4 15/7 15/7
18/4 18/12 18/18 18/24 19/9
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24/9 24/18 26/17 153/18
157/16 157/18 158/12 159/21
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170/23 175/15 178/20 179/8
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153/6 153/9 154/16 155/2
164/19 166/5 174/9 174/23
176/24
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106/19 128/15 150/7 151/4
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161/16 161/19 161/21 171/12
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22/25 23/19 32/22 38/20
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55/10 56/20 59/9 79/10 86/2
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85/13 85/16 86/7 87/17 92/17
109/21 110/1 120/13 135/12
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34/4 34/11 35/6 36/16 36/24
37/12 91/12 138/3 138/7
138/18 143/12 165/25 166/23
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20/6 24/14 24/22 24/22 25/22
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46/24 53/1 54/25 84/8 85/7
113/6 136/6 136/17 152/8
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184/8 184/9 185/6
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39/2 49/9 49/9 49/13 53/1
55/13 55/16 58/25 74/5 84/11
84/16 84/20 112/18 113/13
120/22 136/5 136/17 152/17
174/22 175/19 175/22 176/5
182/13 183/16 184/18 186/9
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45/23 46/12 47/9 51/19 53/9
53/10 61/4 80/14 80/23 84/6
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96/5 108/9 110/2 111/14
111/16 118/15 120/15 134/1
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110/11 113/19 114/1
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168/19 171/22 175/18 186/3
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110/3 142/19 142/22 179/17
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32/11 37/18 40/21 41/8 43/18
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46/7 65/6 66/6 74/14 74/17
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65/9 65/21 67/18 69/5 76/18
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170/3 182/12
top [6] 14/19 166/7 166/10
166/13 166/16 188/19
Topeka [2] 177/15 179/13
Torrance [1] 76/4
touched [1] 179/14
towards [3] 12/13 40/17 42/1
Tower [1] 2/20
Towing [4] 15/16 15/17 15/19
15/20
TQC [1] 14/19
trade [3] 61/4 61/6 94/25
traffic [1] 148/14
transaction [2] 23/10 23/12
transactions [4] 23/18 24/13
167/23 168/20
TRANSCRIPT [1] 1/13
transfer [2] 24/12 171/23
transferred [3] 24/12 168/1
168/2
transferring [1] 151/1
translating [2] 27/1 27/3
translation [4] 176/11
176/24 177/8 177/10
translator [2] 176/21 176/23
transmission [2] 21/21 21/22
transmitted [1] 21/20
Transport [4] 14/13 14/14
15/16 15/19
traveling [1] 175/2
treated [1] 118/9
trial [27] 1/15 5/15 25/7
26/10 33/24 66/6 133/21
135/2 148/3 148/7 148/10
148/10 148/19 148/22 149/11
149/12 153/21 157/23 159/20
165/9 168/21 179/25 181/9
184/3 188/11 188/12 188/13
trials [1] 82/19
tried [1] 33/17
trouble [2] 100/24 159/2
true [5] 13/9 24/16 43/25
86/4 147/20
truly [1] 147/19
trusted [1] 170/17
try [6] 107/21 147/20 179/22
181/19 182/16 185/13
trying [8] 25/20 35/7 42/9
46/12 47/13 53/21 55/16
130/18
Tseng [4] 126/7 126/10 129/7
140/14
TUESDAY [2] 1/17 5/1
Turing [2] 14/25 14/25
Turkat [2] 35/2 35/21
turn [1] 87/14
turns [2] 7/8 118/16
TV [1] 66/7
Twelfth [1] 2/6
Twenty [2] 63/1 121/14
Twenty-and-a-half [1] 121/14
Twenty-three [1] 63/1
two [32] 7/12 25/11 28/6
29/6 29/6 29/10 29/22 33/20
78/17 81/18 85/7 87/6 93/12
106/22 109/16 116/8 119/8
120/16 120/17 120/21 135/4
150/14 150/16 151/25 160/22
165/25 166/4 168/23 174/21
175/8 178/24 184/12
Two o'clock [1] 87/6
type [15] 29/16 38/14 67/19
98/6 98/9 100/7 102/3 121/3
121/6 122/8 123/9 126/19
129/16 171/3 181/4
types [1] 66/18
typically [1] 9/14
typing [1] 62/13
U
U.S [5] 1/21 2/4 2/4 9/4
40/3
Ulia [6] 14/19 15/3 161/10
161/18 168/12 175/21
ultimately [2] 7/8 181/13
unable [1] 30/12
unauthorized [2] 11/16 33/11
unaware [1] 122/24
uncle [3] 100/19 101/7
105/23
unclear [1] 83/23
under [13] 11/23 13/18 13/23
20/7 24/14 24/23 29/8 31/18
104/3 112/3 134/2 137/21
188/6
underlying [1] 165/15
understand [12] 6/21 11/15
40/22 43/11 44/3 80/17 113/9
160/9 160/10 170/10 176/15
185/9
understanding [9] 85/10
92/13 109/18 112/21 127/7
127/10 128/14 142/23 172/14
understood [5] 46/13 53/4
75/21 80/16 147/11
unduly [1] 114/3
unemployed [4] 98/3 98/7
121/2 122/7
unfavorably [1] 48/17
unfreeze [1] 156/14
Unified [3] 58/14 68/20 76/4
unitary [2] 160/12 160/14
UNITED [18] 1/1 1/4 1/6 2/3
5/7 5/14 5/15 12/16 23/6
23/15 26/4 26/9 26/10 37/22
37/22 151/23 153/22 154/3
units [2] 108/15 108/15
University [3] 78/19 78/20
127/24
unknown [6] 18/7 21/7 21/19
22/6 22/18 23/6
unlawful [3] 23/11 23/15
23/20
unless [1] 81/10
unlike [1] 169/25
unnecessarily [1] 148/22
unnecessary [1] 115/14
unsaid [1] 86/24
unsure [1] 138/17
until [10] 18/1 21/2 22/25
45/4 148/11 148/19 180/20
181/16 186/24 188/22
unusual [2] 56/20 82/20
up [39] 7/12 12/21 28/9
28/16 33/19 33/21 38/21
38/24 40/24 43/23 46/9 48/20
54/3 55/13 62/13 65/8 82/6
84/11 86/2 86/15 86/17 91/25
106/13 106/17 110/9 111/13
119/13 119/14 119/15 119/18
135/9 136/7 144/18 148/21
159/23 169/15 170/5 173/8
183/22
upon [7] 31/2 31/19 74/23
75/12 101/5 136/17 184/11
UPS [1] 58/20
Urdu [2] 45/18 45/19
Uriel [3] 91/19 92/20 92/21
us [17] 2/9 10/22 28/16
30/13 32/23 61/12 61/15
67/19 93/9 96/9 100/7 131/13
133/5 134/20 134/21 146/6
147/2
USC [2] 64/3 64/5
use [16] 7/19 21/13 33/11
42/12 81/1 84/16 84/20 113/5
126/23 151/2 152/8 165/5
178/19 179/8 179/10 179/21
used [35] 9/16 11/10 11/15
11/21 12/6 12/12 13/20 13/24
18/14 18/15 18/21 18/21 19/7
20/4 24/8 151/13 151/21
152/25 153/2 154/12 155/6
155/22 156/2 156/5 156/20
156/25 157/11 160/7 161/1
161/14 163/14 167/9 167/12
168/13 176/15
using [15] 7/18 9/12 12/5
42/24 160/5 161/4 163/15
163/18 165/4 166/25 168/9
168/13 172/16 180/10 187/25
usual [1] 53/21
usually [1] 82/19
utilities [1] 12/8
utility [1] 11/12
uttered [2] 177/7 178/7
V
V-A-R-G-A-S [2] 53/13 53/18
vacation [1] 170/18
VAHE [28] 3/18 5/9 6/1 10/13
17/21 18/5 18/14 18/20 19/1
19/11 19/20 19/25 20/3 20/20
21/6 21/19 22/5 22/18 23/4
24/2 24/11 24/20 26/23 36/4
52/17 182/5 183/4 185/5
Valerie [1] 53/25
Valley [2] 10/8 160/4
value [1] 23/19
Vargas [6] 53/12 53/18 53/22
56/16 56/22 58/8
various [2] 131/21 157/5
Vaughan [1] 3/7
venture [8] 158/21 160/12
160/14 160/17 165/10 165/14
165/16 168/24
ventures [4] 14/16 14/17
158/24 165/20
verdict [13] 31/1 31/19
64/18 67/2 70/24 79/14 103/9
133/24 134/2 145/20 147/20
158/3 158/4
versions [1] 155/9
versus [3] 5/8 24/10 26/5
very [24] 7/2 7/6 7/11 8/4
27/7 32/5 35/3 35/7 36/6
36/6 42/4 42/22 43/4 45/15
45/24 47/11 74/21 75/15
118/17 169/25 170/6 180/2
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very... [2] 186/11 188/8
victim [9] 33/10 33/16 36/23
37/11 138/2 138/7 138/13
138/17 143/11
Victoria [6] 38/2 139/6
161/9 163/19 172/17 173/5
video [1] 179/23
view [10] 8/23 38/19 43/13
48/16 65/12 65/14 74/23
77/18 111/14 184/4
Viktoria [6] 173/6 173/10
173/15 175/11 175/23 187/25
violation [2] 23/7 23/15
violence [1] 117/20
visas [1] 155/5
visited [1] 153/21
visiting [1] 154/3
visitors [1] 154/2
visits [1] 153/25
vocational [1] 94/17
VOLUME [1] 1/16
Voyage [2] 17/24 17/24
VPNs [1] 167/12
W
wages [1] 19/6
wait [4] 35/23 115/2 120/9
148/21
waiting [1] 148/21
walk [1] 28/9
want [18] 6/6 31/14 41/2
41/18 44/8 44/9 49/5 49/6
49/9 49/16 49/17 80/15 96/18
134/14 134/21 135/10 135/12
141/1
wanted [11] 6/13 7/10 8/10
45/2 45/8 50/7 52/17 52/22
123/14 140/5 182/18
wants [1] 179/7
warrant [4] 61/11 61/16
61/17 61/18
was [214]
Washington [2] 2/10 2/23
wasn't [5] 115/13 170/4
170/25 171/20 180/11
watches [4] 20/14 25/2
157/12 157/14
way [23] 35/5 36/1 37/10
48/9 48/21 49/3 49/23 49/24
77/17 84/24 85/10 86/13
96/18 101/10 101/17 109/18
144/12 162/11 177/17 178/8
178/13 181/6 186/7
ways [1] 176/14
we [134]
wearing [1] 36/1
weeks [3] 25/12 135/5 178/24
welcome [2] 37/5 39/4
well [56] 28/13 30/13 31/9
32/2 33/2 35/9 36/2 40/1
41/12 42/14 44/8 47/15 47/25
49/2 49/10 49/14 50/11 50/24
52/25 63/9 66/5 74/18 74/20
77/8 78/17 79/3 80/15 81/14
84/23 86/19 87/6 95/15
101/17 107/8 111/18 112/23
113/12 115/14 118/15 135/4
135/8 142/16 142/18 147/19
155/17 161/1 161/14 172/4
172/8 178/9 185/24 185/25
186/1 186/8 187/19 188/21
Wells [1] 175/9
went [10] 45/2 61/3 61/4
75/6 157/5 157/6 165/17
165/19 170/18 187/8
were [105]
weren't [2] 132/4 149/1
West [4] 1/22 2/14 3/8 67/21
WESTERN [1] 1/2
what [233]
whatever [4] 44/8 45/9 45/9
185/10
when [54] 8/8 30/11 34/6
36/9 46/7 46/14 48/5 50/7
51/21 52/19 53/19 54/4 59/7
65/11 73/23 74/7 75/3 75/4
75/5 82/10 83/24 84/7 84/11
91/11 98/4 98/9 103/19 104/7
117/7 121/3 121/7 122/9
126/22 126/25 127/8 127/17
128/17 135/11 136/9 143/3
148/9 148/14 150/3 154/9
154/22 162/3 164/9 168/10
172/21 173/6 178/25 180/25
182/13 187/15
whenever [1] 84/16
where [43] 32/16 37/14 40/23
43/21 54/7 55/1 55/6 58/12
64/2 64/4 66/7 68/19 71/19
75/24 76/3 81/17 82/12 83/9
87/13 87/17 87/25 92/1 94/13
99/17 99/19 110/21 110/23
113/19 115/22 125/7 126/13
126/15 127/3 127/25 133/22
141/11 141/12 148/4 156/7
161/5 163/18 171/6 180/1
whereas [1] 170/19
whether [21] 83/24 92/6
106/17 114/2 114/17 119/15
135/2 136/5 138/19 146/16
162/8 165/9 165/24 167/13
168/23 168/25 177/16 178/6
178/20 178/23 179/19
which [36] 9/1 22/21 24/4
25/10 28/5 30/4 41/8 64/12
84/2 86/20 87/16 96/6 100/17
101/10 102/12 114/6 119/1
136/16 141/3 142/12 144/12
147/14 148/3 150/18 151/6
152/1 158/4 161/19 165/3
166/1 168/2 171/7 171/17
172/24 181/21 183/16
while [6] 34/19 44/16 106/10
136/5 167/17 182/12
who [72] 5/19 5/22 6/1 24/5
26/19 26/23 28/3 31/15 32/23
35/24 37/15 40/11 40/12
46/20 46/21 47/21 50/12 51/8
53/6 53/6 55/22 56/11 57/3
59/14 59/24 67/16 72/11 86/2
89/8 110/12 114/7 114/8
115/3 126/15 126/16 131/21
137/2 140/20 144/3 144/18
145/7 149/1 151/20 151/24
152/14 153/6 153/20 154/8
155/2 155/8 162/1 163/10
164/10 166/8 167/13 169/9
169/21 171/2 173/21 174/8
174/20 175/24 176/21 179/24
180/19 182/23 182/23 183/8
183/10 184/2 184/25 185/1
Whoever [1] 55/12
whole [4] 23/13 46/15 84/4
146/8
whom [2] 19/6 112/4
whose [2] 153/1 153/15
why [19] 41/2 45/19 49/5
50/16 68/10 73/17 83/4
103/16 112/21 112/25 113/7
115/3 115/6 165/3 176/10
183/12 183/13 183/15 187/20
wife [11] 110/24 116/7 118/8
118/17 119/24 120/4 122/24
156/10 159/20 170/17 172/2
will [178]
willfully [2] 20/22 22/20
William [1] 53/23
Williams [2] 3/4 3/7
willing [3] 74/15 75/11
128/24
willingness [3] 27/12 129/1
149/3
WILSON [4] 1/3 53/24 59/20
94/6
wire [11] 18/7 20/25 21/23
23/11 23/21 24/6 160/15
171/23 179/13 179/15 179/16
wires [3] 21/13 170/3 180/9
Wirsching [2] 3/12 26/21
wish [8] 39/15 61/12 90/4
95/8 158/6 169/6 180/19
182/3
wit [1] 23/9
within [9] 12/11 18/2 20/23
21/3 21/14 22/3 22/15 23/2
179/16
without [7] 25/21 27/14
31/15 67/18 110/21 165/15
179/20
witness [13] 4/3 46/21 47/1
51/8 102/6 112/4 139/1 150/7
154/16 162/4 168/15 177/2
185/22
witnesses [11] 37/20 37/23
38/1 139/4 139/21 151/4
152/3 152/14 170/6 180/9
185/15
woman [5] 45/23 154/23
171/20 172/2 180/6
won't [4] 45/3 164/3 186/24
188/22
wondering [1] 135/2
Woodland [1] 172/24
word [1] 176/25
words [15] 43/21 48/15 81/7
110/22 120/2 133/20 135/9
135/10 135/23 149/19 174/12
180/23 181/8 182/10 187/13
work [30] 30/9 47/13 53/6
53/6 62/12 67/19 72/23 74/7
88/3 92/23 98/4 98/6 98/9
98/11 116/19 117/12 121/3
121/6 122/9 126/16 126/19
126/22 126/25 127/11 129/14
129/16 131/12 145/7 173/21
179/5
worked [12] 28/20 28/24
38/13 106/16 136/20 137/10
143/1 143/4 143/6 146/22
167/5 177/16
worker [1] 129/15
workers [1] 11/11
working [8] 72/3 77/3 108/10
117/5 126/17 127/3 127/8
172/1
works [7] 46/21 88/4 116/20
118/7 118/8 159/23 181/6
world [2] 65/11 181/6
worse [1] 86/2
worst [1] 148/15
would [160]
wouldn't [1] 49/13
wrinkles [1] 81/19
write [2] 63/24 185/14
writes [1] 136/25
wrong [1] 141/2
wrongdoing [1] 173/24
Y
yeah [5] 61/22 63/5 100/6
116/11 143/24
year [1] 45/19
years [16] 33/20 34/16 39/23
40/5 45/22 45/23 57/8 59/8
93/12 109/4 121/13 121/15
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years... [4] 123/5 153/22
155/8 167/5
Yepiz [5] 83/18 83/23 84/14
85/19 86/9
yes [175]
yesterday [1] 9/5
yet [5] 35/25 47/13 112/6
112/7 117/16
York [2] 2/10 2/18
you [950]
young [3] 76/18 78/15 78/22
youngest [1] 78/18
your [375]
yourself [7] 28/14 29/25
32/7 32/24 73/24 156/8
183/15
Z
Z-A-R-A-G-O-Z-A [1] 89/2
Zaragoza [6] 33/13 89/2 89/4
89/5 92/12 92/13
Zhadco [3] 14/19 15/3 15/3
Zhadko [11] 161/10 161/12
161/13 161/18 161/23 162/16
162/18 163/4 163/11 168/12
175/21
Zhadko's [6] 163/10 167/25
168/1 168/3 168/7 168/9
Zindroski [2] 166/5 166/5
Zindroski's [2] 166/11
166/13
Zindrosky [2] 38/2 139/5
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