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Transcript of Calendar Call as to Dustin Sean McCabe held on 2/18/2025 — USA v. McCabe (Dkt. 107, S.D. Fla.)
Filed May 9, 2025 in USA v. McCabe; one of 219 filings from this case.
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| Court | U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida |
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| Filed | 2025-05-09 |
U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida · No. 9:24-cr-80103-AMC · Doc. 107 · 2025-05-09 · Docket on CourtListener
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION CASE NO. 24-cr-80103-AMC-1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Fort Pierce, Florida Plaintiff, February 18, 2025 vs. 1:50 p.m. - 2:28 p.m. DUSTIN SEAN MCCABE, Defendant. Pages 1 to 35 ______________________________________________________________ TRANSCRIPT OF CALENDAR CALL BEFORE THE HONORABLE AILEEN M. CANNON UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE APPEARANCES: FOR THE GOVERNMENT: UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ZACH KELLER, ESQ. 99 NE 4th Street Miami, Florida 33132 FOR THE DEFENDANT: TERRENCE O'SULLIVAN LAW, P.A. TERRENCE J. O'SULLIVAN, ESQ. 3810 Murrell Road Suite 340 Rockledge, Florida 32955 LAW OFFICE OF CALISHA A. FRANCIS CALISHA A. FRANCIS, ESQ. 7481 NW 37th Court Lauderhill, Florida 33319 STENOGRAPHICALLY REPORTED BY: LAURA E. MELTON, RMR, CRR, FPR Official Court Reporter to the Honorable Aileen M. Cannon United States District Court Fort Pierce, Florida Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 1 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2 (Call to the Order of the Court.) THE COURT: Good afternoon. You may be seated unless you're addressing the case. Let's call the case. COURTROOM DEPUTY: Yes, Judge. The Court calls Case Number 24-cr-80103-Cannon, United States of America v. Dustin Sean McCabe. Counsel, please state your appearances, starting with the government. MR. KELLER: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Zachary Keller on behalf of the government. THE COURT: Good afternoon, Mr. Keller. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Good afternoon, Your Honor. Terrence O'Sullivan on behalf of the defendant, who is seated to my left. THE COURT: Good afternoon, Mr. O'Sullivan. MS. FRANCIS: Good afternoon. Calisha Francis on behalf of the defendant, Mr. Dustin Sean McCabe. THE COURT: Good afternoon, Ms. Francis and Mr. McCabe. All right. This is a calendar call in anticipation of trial, which is set to begin during the two-week period starting next week. I don't believe this case has been specially set yet. Is that correct, Mr. Keller? MR. KELLER: So, Judge, from the last continuance order I thought it was going to be definitely going on February 24th, Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 2 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3 but I don't know that it was specifically stated to be specially set. THE COURT: Okay. Yes, that was a final continuance. But just for clarity's sake, we will go ahead and specially set this trial to begin Monday at 8:30 a.m., that is, February 24th. Mr. Keller, can you update the Court on your timing expectations so we can plan with more specificity. MR. KELLER: Yes, Judge. So we anticipate calling -- you know, we listed 30 witnesses in our witness exhibit list. We anticipate calling probably 27 of them. One of the witnesses has invoked his Fifth Amendment right, so we don't anticipate him being a part of this trial. Ms. Spurlock, in your order, we recognize is no longer necessary, and we have one investigator we think we don't need to call. So in terms of the scheduling that we have before us, we -- about half of our witnesses are being flown in here or receiving hotel arrangements. In particular, the ones that I want to highlight for scheduling purposes involve the Small Business Administration, the banks that we're calling in. These witnesses are all hotels that we have reserved and flights we have reserved for the second week, the very beginning. So they're going to come in on Sunday, and we anticipate that they will testify on Monday or Tuesday, kind of over the course of that time. Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 3 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 4 The rest of the witnesses we have traveling in -- for the most part, the witnesses who need travel are coming in during the dates that we've kind of projected in our outline. It's possible that we would finish before Friday, with respect to these earlier witnesses, and take Friday off, but I don't think that's going to happen. My expectation, based on my outline now, is that we would complete our witnesses on March 4th. THE COURT: Before you proceed with this taking Friday off, that's not a decision that counsel makes. MR. KELLER: Yes. THE COURT: And so I appreciate you trying to map this out, but we proceed with our trial days consecutively unless the Court orders otherwise. MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: So you should have your witnesses lined up to go. I will be reasonable in making adjustments, given the out-of-town nature of your witnesses, or at least most of them, but I do want to make very clear that there is no unilateral taking days off allowance that counsel can make because of witness issues. MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor. My apologies. We would seek leave of court; I should have said that instead. I do anticipate that we will finish our witnesses on March 4th, that is -- that is my current expectation, which Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 4 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 5 will, of course, change based on how long witnesses take. THE COURT: Okay. All right. And we're still planning on calling that one witness -- initials JH, I think; is that correct? MR. KELLER: Yes, ma'am. Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: On the 24th? MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor. And we've prepped with her at this point. I anticipate that her direct examination will be less than 90 minutes. So our expectation is that we will comfortably be able to complete her testimony on Monday. In fact, we are going to ask a second witness to come because we -- we hope that we will be able to start a second witness as well. THE COURT: Okay. How much time are you requesting for opening statements? MR. KELLER: We would need less than 20 minutes. We -- I anticipate it will probably be around 15. So if you had 20 as the cap, that would be... THE COURT: Okay. So just to summarize, the government is prepared to proceed on the 24th. MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. And you're estimating your presentation to last through March 4th? MR. KELLER: Our -- our case in chief yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. And you're asking for 20 minutes for Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 5 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 6 opening? MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Let me hear from Mr. O'Sullivan, just on readiness and scheduling. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Thank you, Your Honor. I think Mr. Keller kind of summed it up. We are ready to go on Monday. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Do you have any sense for how long your case, if any, will take? MR. O'SULLIVAN: I think, if we put on a case, it would be less than a day. THE COURT: Okay. All right then. So as far as projecting a timetable for your venire, I want to ensure the parties are okay with the Court transmitting to the venire that we're anticipating a nine-day trial running through March 6th, just to avoid any hiccups. But let me hear from Mr. Keller first. MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor, I think that makes sense. THE COURT: Would you shave it down to the 5th or is that too aggressive? MR. KELLER: I think that's too aggressive. We're doing our best to anticipate how long things will take, but it's very difficult. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Mr. O'Sullivan, what is your view on the March 6th endpoint? Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 6 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 7 MR. O'SULLIVAN: Thank you, Your Honor. I think that makes sense. I think that's a good timetable. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Well, then here we are scheduled for trial, specially set on the 24th, running that entire first week and then four days into the second week, concluding, anticipated, March 6th. So that will be the Court's projection and what I convey to the jurors. All right then. Let me hear, Mr. O'Sullivan, from you on your request for time, opening statement-wise. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Judge, we would request 30 minutes. THE COURT: Okay. Given the time issues on day 1 with Ms. Jennifer Hester, I'm going to give each side 25 minutes and with the 5-minute warning, but you're not required, of course, to use up that whole time. So 25 minutes per side. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: Any questions with respect to voir dire or logistical issues? MR. KELLER: As far as voir dire, do you permit any questioning of the jury by the counsel? THE COURT: So you should refer to the scheduling order for the answer to that question, which generally allows for the submission of questions to be considered by the Court and then usually a limited period for attorney-conducted voir dire. But to avoid confusion, what does the scheduling order Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 7 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 8 in this case say? There have been some changes to my standard order, which is why I'm not sure exactly what's in this version. I don't have a paper copy of that, Mr. Keller. Do you have it? It should -- it should contain a section on submitting proposed voir dire questions, which I don't think have been docketed, and those would have been due today. But anyhow, I will wait for you to look that up. MR. KELLER: So, Judge, I believe that we did file voir dire questions. THE COURT: You did? Those are on the docket? MR. KELLER: At docket entry 50. THE COURT: Okay, then. My error. Okay. And what does the scheduling order say with respect to attorney-conducted voir dire? MR. KELLER: And, Judge, I don't have the trial order in front of me. THE COURT: Oh, okay. Ms. Francis? MS. FRANCIS: Yes, Judge. I'm looking up the scheduling order that you have. Yes, Your Honor. Yes, Your Honor, number 5 of your scheduling order does say that each party may file no more than five voir dire questions. However, we will not be submitting any to the Court. THE COURT: Okay. So, Mr. Keller, did you file those Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 8 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 9 on the docket, I think you said at docket entry 50? MR. KELLER: Yes, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. Well, let me review those then. Okay. I have looked at the government's proposed questions. They seem acceptable. Question 3 might engender some confusion. It asks whether anyone in the venire believes that the amount of time that passes between events happening, and then later being charged as a crime, has any bearing on the merits of the case. And I think the standard credibility instruction could be viewed as allowing consideration of a witness's recollection, and time elapsed might impact a witness's recollection. So I don't know if it would be fair to say that it would have zero bearing on the case. Is there any way to reformulate that question? MR. KELLER: Well, just to be clear, Judge, in the question we're not asking -- we're not telling them about it not mattering, we're just asking if they think it matters. THE COURT: So if the answer is, well, I think it matters because if a witness really doesn't remember anything because four years have passed, then, yeah, I think that that matters, then what is your response? MR. KELLER: That would be a completely acceptable juror answer, and we would just, you know, know that about that juror. Whereas, someone else might say, well, what are we Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 9 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 10 doing here if, you know, it's been that much time? And then that would be that juror's answer, which would be helpful for us. THE COURT: Okay. Well, I will consider that question. Other than that, I think they are acceptable, and I will let you know on Monday if there is any issue with that question. But, otherwise, each side will be given ten minutes of attorney-conducted voir dire, that will include defense counsel. Because you have not submitted any questions, you won't be able to ask any sort of brand-new questions in terms of injecting new topics. But what you can do during those ten minutes is use that time to ask any follow-up questions of the jurors based on questions they've already answered or anything you particularly see in their questionnaires. So the government will have license to probe those topics, if approved by the Court, because they submitted questions in advance. And the time for both sides will be ten minutes. I will say that I go through a fairly comprehensive voir dire Q and A, so you won't have to use your ten minutes for basic questions that will be covered elsewhere. Any questions about voir dire? MR. KELLER: Just this, Judge. And this is why I was asking the question. I'm looking at the trial order now and I see why -- and so, in the trial order it says that the questions be asked by the Court, except as determined by the Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 10 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 11 Court at the end. So, just to be clear, that means you're not going to ask these questions we filed. We are going to be asking them as the government -- THE COURT: Well, I will tell you, for example, the reasonable doubt instruction is something that I cover because it's standard fare. Question number 2, which concerns consideration of each crime separately as another "will you follow the law" question, and I will cover that myself. I will probably have a general question that just gives the jurors a little bit of background regarding the allegations and ask them if hearing those allegations prompts any of them to believe they cannot be fair and impartial in this case. So that will give them a sort of general factual reaction to the allegations. So that should assist you in planning for your ten minutes. The rest of the questions related to the timing of the charges or the simple negligence standard, those are things that you should address in your ten minutes. Any questions? MR. KELLER: None about that, Judge. And then the other question I have about voir dire, which is a broader question about your permitted uses of the courtroom by counsel, are we permitted to walk up to the jury box and talk to them with a lapel, or do we have to stay at the podium? Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 11 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 12 THE COURT: You have some latitude to move about the well, so long as you have a microphone or a portable one. But don't approach the jurors too closely and don't hover over them, obviously. But it's not a strict rule. In other words, you have some freedom of movement, and that would apply also in your opening and closing arguments. MR. KELLER: Yes, Judge. If I could ask one question about opening. Are we permitted to use photos and other types of media during our openings? THE COURT: That depends on what is in your presentation. If these are evidence -- if these are exhibits that are disputed, then maybe not. You would not be permitted to use any evidence that -- whose admission is not either agreed to or already resolved by the Court. So I don't know what the contents of your presentation are. If you want to raise that now, you may, but as a general rule, you should not be using anything in opening that you do not know with certainty will be admitted at trial. So... MR. KELLER: Yes, Judge. I will confer with the defense after this hearing. And if there are any issues, we can raise them to the Court at the beginning of trial. THE COURT: Okay. Mr. O'Sullivan, do you plan some sort of audio/visual or PowerPoint for your opening? MR. O'SULLIVAN: No audio or visual, Judge. Perhaps Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 12 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 13 photographs. We're still conferring about that. THE COURT: Okay. Well, then the parties should confer about their materials for opening. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: And it's also very important that you both test your electronic equipment before the trial. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: So that is something that should occur today or at some other point between now and 8:30 a.m. on Monday. I don't want to run into last-minute issues where your clips are not playing or your photos are not displaying. And, either way, you should have some ease with the Court's equipment, using the ELMO, and also any of your software presentation programs. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: Okay. So as far as voir dire, I will just remind the parties that no back strikes are permitted under any circumstances. We usually take up for-cause strikes first, and then we proceed to peremptories. The standard number of peremptories in the federal rules will be allotted. And again no back striking. Please make sure you have a list of your witnesses handy so that you can read out loud the names for the venire. And I think that covers jury selection. Our hope is to be done by lunch so that we can proceed straight into opening and your Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 13 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 14 first witness. Okay. Any further questions about jury selection? MR. KELLER: No, Your Honor, none from the government. THE COURT: Mr. O'Sullivan? MR. O'SULLIVAN: No, ma'am. Thank you. THE COURT: Okay. All right then. Are there any stipulations in this case? Mr. Keller. MR. KELLER: I don't anticipate there being any. THE COURT: Okay. Have the parties attempted to arrive at any? MR. KELLER: This is a case where I'm not sure that there are any that are necessary. THE COURT: Okay. All right then. Okay. Mr. O'Sullivan, I will ask you the same question. Any stipulations you can anticipate? MR. O'SULLIVAN: I agree with what Mr. Keller said that in this case I don't see that we have any. THE COURT: Okay. Now, are there any exhibits on the government's exhibit list as to which the parties can advise the Court now there is no objection to their admission? In other words, it would be convenient if we could pre-admit at least some of the unobjected-to exhibits. So we won't do that today, but you should confer on that subject, in addition to the opening statement conferral, so that first thing, on Monday, we can address whether any exhibits can be admitted to Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 14 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 15 speed things up. Mr. Keller, any questions? MR. KELLER: No questions, Judge. We produced a binder of our exhibits to the defense before calendar call. We anticipate that we will be able to stipulate to a lot of them because most of them are 902.11. There are also many photographs that are probably -- THE COURT: Okay. Then, today is February 18th, I'm going to order the parties confer no later than the 20th and have a substantive conversation about these exhibit issues and the opening statement topic we've already covered. Okay. All right. So that covers the preadmission of potential exhibits. Please make sure that you provide a binder to the Court, Mr. Keller, of your government proposed exhibits. The same applies to you, Mr. O'Sullivan, should you have any exhibits later on in the case. And you should mark them using the convention ordered in the scheduling order. All right. Are there any motions to address at this time? As I'm sure you saw, the Court entered a written order on the government's motion in limine earlier today. So there don't appear to be any pending motions. But let me confirm that, Mr. Keller. MR. KELLER: No pending motions, Judge. THE COURT: Okay. Mr. O'Sullivan. MR. O'SULLIVAN: No pending motions, Your Honor. Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 15 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 16 THE COURT: Okay. Any other legal or evidentiary issues that should be hashed out now, Mr. Keller? MR. KELLER: The only evidentiary issue I will just put on the record is that the defense has not provided any discovery to us. We're not aware of any discovery, after numerous conversations with them. I talked to them before calendar call, told them I would put this on the record. So I'm just putting it on the record. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Well, Mr. O'Sullivan, you're familiar with the rules, of course, and since there has been no disclosure by the defense, I anticipate there being no -- no documentary items of evidence that you wish to introduce. Is that correct? MR. O'SULLIVAN: That is correct, Your Honor. The only issue that I would raise at this point regarding that is, one of the government's witnesses, Jonathan Miller, the government has now said are not going to call him. THE COURT: Uh-huh. MR. O'SULLIVAN: The defense plans to call him. THE COURT: Okay. And who is he for my knowledge? MR. O'SULLIVAN: He is essentially -- he was on the boat on the day of the incident. He is also the boat mechanic. THE COURT: Okay. Jonathan Miller. Okay. MR. KELLER: And, just to be clear, Judge, and I mentioned this before, that's the witness who -- and I sent Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 16 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 17 this letter to Mr. O'Sullivan. He has sent a formal letter from his attorney saying he intends to exercise or invoke his Fifth Amendment rights. So he will not testify. THE COURT: Okay. Have you subpoenaed him, Mr. O'Sullivan? MR. O'SULLIVAN: I have not yet, Your Honor. THE COURT: Okay. Well, you should make sure to do that. And it will be important that, if he is represented, his attorney is here. So please ensure that you communicate with his attorney. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Anything else that needs to be covered today? I will say as a general rule I don't like to be surprised at trial, so if big issues arise that could have been raised earlier, either as an evidentiary matter or some other issue, you should advise the Court now or as soon as practical because I don't want to delay the jury at all and conduct lengthy sidebars. Mr. Keller, looking at your exhibit list, having conferred with counsel, I hope, are you aware of any sort of evidentiary issues or recurring problems that you might see as the case is presented? MR. KELLER: None right now. The only thing that I have not yet conferred with the defense about recently -- I Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 17 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18 think I talked to them about this before the new year -- was just making sure that they were not trying to introduce -- the victim, Ms. Ghiz-Flynn, had ingested some type of edible, like she had some type of medical marijuana prescription of some type. I didn't anticipate they were going to be getting into that. I think I talked to them before, but I haven't conferred with them recently about that. Their trial strategy may have changed. So I do just note that to Your Honor that I was planning on talking to them about that. THE COURT: Okay. The victim's name in this case -- I thought her initials were MC. Is that incorrect? MR. KELLER: It's -- MCGF were her initials. THE COURT: Okay. So how do you plan on referring to her during the trial? Ms. Flynn is -- what's her full name? MR. KELLER: Her full name is Mollie Ghiz-Flynn. Mollie C. Ghiz-Flynn, G-H-I-Z, dash F-L-Y-N-N. And I was planning to refer to her as "Ms. Ghiz-Flynn" or "Mollie." THE COURT: Okay. Okay. Mr. O'Sullivan, are you planning on introducing anything related to an edible that Ms. Flynn may or may not have taken? MR. O'SULLIVAN: On cross-examination of the medical examiner, I was going to get into that because that's -- there Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 18 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 19 was drugs in her system. THE COURT: Okay. Well, I haven't seen a motion on this topic. Mr. Keller, what is your position on it? MR. KELLER: We would object based on relevance; that there is no indication that it had any effect on anything here. So in the same way that you ruled out the drug testing for us by saying there is no clear connection, that there is nothing in the medical report, there is nothing from the medical examiner suggesting that the marijuana had anything to do with her being chopped up by a propeller and drowned. THE COURT: Okay. All right. I will hear you out, Mr. O'Sullivan, briefly, but I think we can address this in the natural course during trial. What is your view at this point for relevance? MR. O'SULLIVAN: I think it's relevant because marijuana and methamphetamines affect your judgment, and it could affect your memory, could affect how you swim, could affect a lot of things. So I do think it's relevant at an initial level. I'm certainly not trying to make it a feature of the trial, but there were drugs in her system and she was scuba diving, and I think that's relevant for a jury to consider. THE COURT: Okay. All right. Well, we will just leave that issue for now tabled. You should confer with that and add Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 19 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 20 that to your agenda of conferral before the 20th. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: Okay. MR. KELLER: And, Judge, if I could add one more thing about trial. THE COURT: Okay. MR. KELLER: So one thing I do at the office, which is an honor to do, is I bring people to their first trials. For Mr. Stiehl, who is the Coast Guard Special Assistant, I just wanted to flag to Your Honor that he has never tried a case. He has never done much in court. I have been preparing him. I have been working with him. But there may be times when I may need to approach him to kind of assist him, if Your Honor is okay with that. That's what I normally do in these types of trials when something happens that the person finds confusing. So I just wanted to raise that to Your Honor's attention. THE COURT: Okay. Well, as a general level that seems okay, but, obviously, it shouldn't disrupt the proceedings, and if I need to manage it, I will. But, okay, so Mr. Stiehl -- he is an AUSA with you in the office? MR. KELLER: He is a special assistant. THE COURT: Okay. MR. KELLER: He actually works for the Coast Guard. He is, kind of, detailed here. THE COURT: Okay. All right then. Well, it seems like Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 20 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 21 we have covered everything that can be covered today. I will enter an order just specially setting trial with the timetable we've discussed. As far as the proposed jury instructions, we received those. I haven't yet had an opportunity to review them in detail, but you should anticipate basically an initial charge conference likely Wednesday evening or Thursday evening of that first week. There will probably be, then, a final conference to hash out any final changes, but there should be at least planning for an initial substantive conference Wednesday or Thursday evening; that would be the 26th or the 27th. Let me just ask in terms of the substantive offense instruction, Mr. Keller. So I understand there is no pattern for seaman's manslaughter. You came up with this using what authorities? MR. KELLER: Using U.S. v. O'Keefe. And these are things that I discussed in the trial brief at docket entry 29. So the primary source of authority is the U.S. v. O'Keefe jury instruction. I will note that one of the, kind of, odd things about how records are available is that I was not able to pull the original docket for that case. Where I got the jury instruction was actually from the appellate brief. And then as far as the definition of proximate cause, I used the definition from the involuntary manslaughter Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 21 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 22 instruction and kind of created one definition of proximate cause using that. So that one is less on rails than the rest of the instruction. THE COURT: Okay. Well, there is quite a bit of difference between the parties' proposals. And I understand the government wants to ask a question about the intent or lack of intent required in its voir dire examination. Mr. O'Sullivan, have you reviewed Mr. Keller's proposed questions for voir dire, and do you have any objection to any of those questions? MR. O'SULLIVAN: Are we talking about the five questions? THE COURT: Yes. MR. O'SULLIVAN: I have no objection to those, Judge. I have reviewed those and I have no objection. THE COURT: Okay. One of those concerns the simple negligence standard. And it does reference that the government need not prove that he acted knowing that his conduct would cause harm or that he intended that his conduct would cause harm. And I'm looking at your seaman's manslaughter defense proposal and it seems to differ. So I just want to make sure that no question that is asked of the venire could ultimately create confusion in the legal standards that are ultimately made part of the final jury instructions. So having said all of that, do I need to concern Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 22 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 23 myself at all with the proposed questions submitted by the government? MS. FRANCIS: Yes, Your Honor. So we would object to any of the voir dire questions that the government submits that does refer to simple negligence. In our disputed jury instructions we did include that in there. We used instructions from the Ninth Circuit criminal jury. That is the other circuit that has really examined this particular statute. So what we did was provide what the Ninth Circuit has used verbatim, and that does object to any mention of the act being simple negligence. What we have requested in our jury instruction is what the Ninth Circuit model indicates, which would be gross negligence. And that is also on point with the recent case law. THE COURT: And by "recent case law," what do you mean? MS. FRANCIS: That would be, Judge, United States v. Garcia, United States v. Keith, and United States v. Rodriguez. In addition, Judge -- THE COURT: So those are all Ninth Circuit cases. Do you have any Eleventh Circuit authority? MS. FRANCIS: No, Your Honor. But these are more recent. So, the Ninth Circuit and the Eleventh Circuit, they Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 23 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 24 are not in agreement with this issue. THE COURT: Well, I obviously work in the Eleventh Circuit. So what does the Eleventh Circuit have to say about the legal standard for seaman's manslaughter, Mr. Keller? MR. KELLER: Judge, U.S. v. Alvarez, which is the case that we cited in our trial brief, says that it is simple negligence. I also just note, in response to what Ms. Francis just said, that this Ninth Circuit model instruction is for Section 1 -- 11, 12, not 11, 15. These cases concern Section 1 -- 11, 12, not 11, 15, so they are different statutes. So they're inapposite and, really, have nothing to do with this case. THE COURT: Okay. Well, then in Alvarez, were the jury instructions challenged? In other words, is there any actual legal discussion about the merits of those instructions? MR. KELLER: So the procedural posture in Alvarez was that the defendant pled guilty on a conditional plea in which he was permitted to appeal specifically about the negligent standard in seaman's manslaughter cases. So that's kind of how it ended up getting to the Eleventh Circuit, despite the fact that he pled guilty. THE COURT: Okay. So -- so the answer ultimately is, yes, you're saying the simple negligence question was raised and litigated and examined by the Eleventh Circuit in an Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 24 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 25 unpublished case? MR. KELLER: Yes. The only reason I answered kind of in a lengthy way is because there were no jury instructions that were challenged. It was just -- THE COURT: Okay. MR. KELLER: Whereas, in O'Keefe, the jury instructions were challenged. So that's the most direct, on point published case law. And that's a Fifth Circuit, I believe, 2005 case. THE COURT: So is there any Eleventh Circuit case at this point, other than Alvarez, speaking to the legal standards applicable to seaman's manslaughter, Mr. Keller? MR. KELLER: I don't believe there is another Eleventh Circuit case that specifically addresses that issue of what negligence standard is appropriate. THE COURT: Okay. Ms. Francis, you wanted to say something? MS. FRANCIS: Yes, Your Honor. I was also going to mention that as well. There have been no cases in the Eleventh Circuit that are point on with this particular case. So the issue is still out there. It's still standing. The Fifth Circuit, the Ninth Circuit, and the Eleventh Circuit all have different rulings. THE COURT: Okay then. We will have some research to do. So you're not so uncomfortable hovering over, you can Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 25 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 remove that microphone, the base itself, or the long stem. There you go. MS. FRANCIS: Thank you, Judge. THE COURT: Mr. Keller, just for my planning purposes, besides the disagreement on the substantive offense instruction, is there any other very significant difference in the parties' instructional proposals? MR. KELLER: So I believe that the other main disagreement is on the wire fraud instruction, which is on page 33 of the instructions that we submitted. And what the defense is proposing is to supplement the pattern instruction, which would be bracketed language that is on the first page. THE COURT: Okay. The Eleventh Circuit, correct me if I'm wrong, already updated its pattern wire fraud post-Takhalov. Is that right? MR. KELLER: Judge, I could not say that with certainty. THE COURT: Okay. That was -- I'm just looking at the scheme to defraud language that was added. It seems to be a growth -- or an outgrowth of Takhalov. And I just want to know whether the Eleventh Circuit's pattern encapsulates that Takhalov ruling, such that there wouldn't need to be an additional sentence added per the defendant's request. So the parties should just update their knowledge on that issue for our conference. Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 26 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 All right. Let me just hear finally, Mr. O'Sullivan, any issues you wish to raise now regarding the instructions, to the extent these issues might become relevant earlier in the case? MR. O'SULLIVAN: May I have one moment to confer with co-counsel, Your Honor? THE COURT: Yes. MR. O'SULLIVAN: I don't think there is anything we need to address right now. THE COURT: Okay. Please make sure you test your equipment. Please be here at 8:30 a.m. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. THE COURT: And please ensure you do that substantive conferral by the 20th. So that is it. Thank you all for being here. I will see you all Monday bright and early. MR. O'SULLIVAN: Yes, ma'am. MR. KELLER: Thank you, Judge. MS. FRANCIS: Thank you. (These proceedings concluded at 2:28 p.m.) Case 9:24-cr-80103-AMC Document 107 Entered on FLSD Docket 05/09/2025 Page 27 of 35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 28 C E R T I F I C A T E I hereby certify that the foregoing is an accurate transcription of the proceedings in the above-entitled matter. DATE: 05-06-2025 /s/Laura Melton LAURA E. 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3:20 <14:25>, 26:4 put [3] <13:55> - 6:10 <14:12>, 16:3 <14:12>, 16:7 putting [1] <14:12> - 16:8 Q questioning [1] <13:57> - 7:20 questionnaires [1] <14:05> - 10:14 questions [25] <13:57> - 7:17 <13:57>, 7:23 <13:58>, 8:5 <13:59>, 8:9 <14:00>, 8:23 <14:03>, 9:5 <14:04>, 10:9 <14:04>, 10:10 <14:05>, 10:12 <14:05>, 10:13 <14:05>, 10:17 <14:05>, 10:20 <14:05>, 10:21 <14:05>, 10:25 <14:05>, 11:2 <14:06>, 11:16 <14:06>, 11:19 <14:10>, 14:2 <14:11>, 15:2 <14:11>, 15:3 <14:20>, 22:9 <14:20>, 22:10 <14:21>, 22:12 <14:21>, 23:1 <14:21>, 23:4 quite [1] <14:20> - 22:4 R rails [1] <14:20> - 22:2 raise [5] <14:08> - 12:17 <14:08>, 12:22 <14:13>, 16:15 <14:18>, 20:16 <14:26>, 27:2 raised [2] <14:14> - 17:16 <14:24>, 24:24 reaction [1] <14:06> - 11:13 read [1] <14:09> - 13:23 readiness [1] <13:55> - 6:4 ready [1] <13:55> - 6:6 really [3] <14:04> - 9:20 <14:22>, 23:8 <14:23>, 24:12 reason [1] <14:24> - 25:2 reasonable [2] <13:53> - 4:17 <14:06>, 11:5 received [1] <14:18> - 21:4 receiving [1] <13:52> - 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