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Memo of Points and Authorities — Bofa Ca Unemployment (Dkt. 453.1)

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U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California · No. 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB · Doc. 453-1 · 2025-04-11 · Docket on CourtListener

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A memorandum of points and authorities filed by defendant Bank of America, N.A. supporting its motion for a protective order, filed April 11, 2025 as Document 453-1 in In re: Bank of America California Unemployment Benefits Litigation, Case No. 21-MD-02992-GPC-MSB, in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California. The brief asks the court to preclude depositions of two of the bank's top executives under the apex doctrine, citing Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rule 26(c)(1). It argues that neither has unique, non-repetitive firsthand knowledge of the facts at issue and that the plaintiffs chose to forgo less intrusive discovery methods. It recounts earlier briefing over electronically stored information discovery and states that nearly 270,000 documents were produced and 15 depositions taken. The document is 30 pages and was filed provisionally under seal.

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MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. FOR A PROTECTIVE ORDER                                                                 CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
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JAMES W. MCGARRY (pro hac vice) 
JMcGarry@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
100 Northern Avenue 
Boston, MA  02210 
Tel.: +1 617 570 1000 
Fax: +1 617 523 1231 
SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH (pro hac vice) 
SRoseSmith@goodwinlaw.com 
MATTHEW L. RIFFEE (pro hac vice) 
MRiffee@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
1900 N Street, NW 
Washington, DC 20036 
Tel.: +1 202 346 4000 
Fax: +1 202 346 4444 
Attorneys for Defendant  
BANK OF AMERICA, N.A. 
[ADDITIONAL COUNSEL LISTED IN SIGNATURE BLOCK] 
 
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 
SAN DIEGO DIVISION 
IN RE: BANK OF AMERICA 
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT 
BENEFITS LITIGATION 
Case No. 21-MD-02992-GPC-MSB 
DEFENDANT BANK OF 
AMERICA, N.A.’S 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS 
AND AUTHORITIES IN 
SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT’S 
MOTION FOR A PROTECTIVE 
ORDER  
 
Ctrm:   
2D – 2nd Floor  
Judge:  
Hon. Gonzalo P. Curiel 
 
FILED PROVISIONALLY UNDER SEAL 
PURSUANT TO STIPULATED PROTECTIVE 
ORDER 
 
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TABLE OF CONTENTS 
BACKGROUND ....................................................................................................... 2 
I. 
Plaintiffs’ Efforts to Secure ESI Discovery from the Apex Executives. .......... 2 
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Plaintiffs’ Efforts to Secure Depositions of the Apex Executives. ................... 5 
LEGAL STANDARD ............................................................................................... 8 
ARGUMENT ............................................................................................................. 9 
I. 
Mr. Moynihan Has No Unique Knowledge of the Issues in This Case. ......... 11 
II. 
Mr. Montag Has No Unique Knowledge of the Issues in This Case. ............. 19 
III. 
Plaintiffs Chose to Forgo Less Intrusive Discovery Methods. ........................ 22 
CONCLUSION ....................................................................................................... 24 
 
 
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TABLE OF AUTHORITIES 
 
Page(s) 
Cases 
Affinity Labs of Texas v. Apple, 
2011 WL 1753982 (N.D. Cal. May 9, 2011) ................................................. 9, 22 
Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., 
282 F.R.D. 259 (N.D. Cal. 2012) ......................................................................... 8 
Celerity, Inc. v. Ultra Clean Holding, Inc., 
2007 WL 205067 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 25, 2007) .............................................. 1, 8, 22 
Davis v. Pinterest, Inc., 
2021 WL 11117688 (N.D. Cal. May 27, 2021) ................................................. 15 
In re Google Litig., 
2011 WL 4985279 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 19, 2011) ............................................ 1, 9, 23 
Greer v. Cnty. of San Diego, 
2022 WL 2134601 (S.D. Cal. June 14, 2022) ...................................................... 9 
K.C.R. v. County of Los Angeles, 
2014 WL 3434257 (C.D. Cal. July 11, 2014) ................................................ 9, 24 
Kadrey v. Meta, 
2024 WL 4293910 (N.D. Cal. Sept. 24, 2024) ................................................... 23 
Mehmet v. PayPal, Inc., 
2009 WL 921637 (N.D. Cal. Apr. 3, 2009) ....................................................... 22 
Metabyte, Inc. v. Meta Platforms, Inc., 
2025 WL 799040 (N.D. Cal. Mar. 13, 2025) ..................................................... 23 
Pilot, Inc. v. Cub Elecparts, Inc., 
2015 WL 13918235 (C.D. Cal. Dec. 7, 2015) ................................................... 24 
Court Rules 
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rule 26(c)(1) ........................................................ 8 
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Bank of America, N.A. (“BANA”) requests a protective order precluding the 
depositions of its two top executives—current Chief Executive Officer (“CEO”) 
Brian Moynihan and former Chief Operating Officer (“COO”) Thomas Montag.    
The “tremendous potential for abuse or harassment” associated with 
deposition notices to executives at “the highest level or ‘apex’ of corporate 
management” is undisputed.  Celerity, Inc. v. Ultra Clean Holding, Inc., 2007 WL 
205067, at *3 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 25, 2007).  The deposition notices of Messrs. Moynihan 
and Montag are no exception, particularly given Plaintiffs’ confessed desire to push 
settlement via executive discovery.  To prevent such abuse or harassment, in order to 
satisfy the “apex doctrine,” courts have held that a party seeking such a deposition 
must show—with evidence—that the executives have “unique firsthand, non-
repetitive knowledge of the facts at issue in the case.”  In re Google Litig., 2011 WL 
4985279, at *2 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 19, 2011) (emphasis added).  Despite the extensive 
record available to Plaintiffs here, they cannot do so.   
Plaintiffs argue that the apex depositions are necessary because they believe 
the executives purportedly “dr[ove] and ultimately made” and “w[ere] at the center 
of the Bank’s” decisions and policies regarding the fraud filter and customer service 
issues underlying Plaintiffs’ claims, and because the executives purportedly have 
unique knowledge about these issues relevant to Plaintiffs’ punitive damages claim 
that Plaintiffs can only ascertain by taking their depositions.  Plaintiffs previously 
were able to secure ESI discovery from Messrs. Moynihan and Montag based on this 
same speculation—that the documents would show that Mr. Moynihan and/or 
Mr. Montag approved, directed, or ratified the use of the fraud filter or the staffing 
of the prepaid claims call center with the requisite ill-intent necessary to satisfy the 
standard for punitive damages.   
But the two top executives’ ESI revealed what BANA has been saying all 
along: Messrs. Moynihan and Montag did not drive or ultimately make any decisions 
regarding the fraud filter or the call center, and neither Mr. Moynihan nor Mr. Montag 
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has any unique or non-repetitive knowledge concerning any facts at issue in this case, 
including those relevant to Plaintiffs’ request for punitive damages.  Indeed, after 
almost two years of discovery, receiving nearly 270,000 documents, and taking 15 
depositions, Plaintiffs still cannot support, with evidence, their claims that Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag were uniquely involved in the issues of this case.  If Plaintiffs 
are allowed to proceed on this record, it would essentially write the apex doctrine out 
of existence every time a plaintiff seeks punitive damages from a corporate 
defendant.  That is not—and cannot be—the law.  Plaintiffs must show more to 
satisfy the apex doctrine’s requirements.  They have not—and cannot—do so here.   
BACKGROUND 
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Plaintiffs’ Efforts to Secure ESI Discovery from the Apex Executives. 
The parties’ dispute with respect to discovery from Messrs. Moynihan and 
Montag began in the fall of 2023, when Plaintiffs first indicated they intended to seek 
ESI documents from their custodial files.  Declaration of Matthew L. Riffee (“Riffee 
Decl.”), Ex. No. 1, BANA Apex IDC Ltr. 1.  The issue was discussed over the course 
of several informal discovery conferences, including one during which Plaintiffs’ 
counsel candidly told Magistrate Judge Berg that top executive emails were 
necessary because “they resolve cases,” “they settle cases.”  McGarry Decl. ISO 
BANA Dis. Ct. ESI Br., Dkt. 209-1 ¶ 10. 
On January 23, 2024, Plaintiffs filed a motion to compel ESI discovery from 
Messrs. Moynihan and Montag.  See Pls. MJ ESI Br.1  On April 24, 2024, Judge Berg 
 
1 The parties collectively filed seven formal briefs and the Court issued two orders 
regarding Plaintiffs’ request for ESI discovery from Messrs. Moynihan and Montag.  
With respect to the parties’ briefing of the ESI issue before Judge Berg: 
1) BANA’s Mem. of Points and Authorities in Support of Defendant’s Motion to 
Preclude Additional ESI Discovery, Dkt. 209, is “BANA MJ ESI Br.”; 
2) Plaintiffs’ Opening Brief in Support of Mot. to Compel Additional ESI 
Custodians, Filed Under Seal at Dkt. 212, is “Pls. MJ ESI Br.”; 
3) BANA’s Mem. of Points and Authorities in Opposition to Plaintiffs’ Motion to 
Compel Additional ESI Custodians, Dkt. 214, is “BANA MJ ESI Opp.”; 
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issued an order denying Plaintiffs’ request, finding that Plaintiffs had not 
demonstrated that either Mr. Moynihan or Mr. Montag were likely to have uniquely 
relevant information that was not available from sources already designated.  MJ ESI 
Order at 8–9.  In that order, Judge Berg explicitly disagreed with Plaintiffs’ 
characterizations of the documents they presented in support of their motion 
(characterizations Plaintiffs continue to make today).  Id.  For example, with respect 
to an exhibit that Plaintiffs said shows that 
 
 Pls. MJ ESI Opp. at 2, Judge Berg noted that “the document 
merely reveals that a BANA employee asked whether Moynihan approved moving 
forward, to which an existing custodian responded, ‘we are freezing all the 
atm/combo cards but that’s all we have approval for.’”  MJ ESI Order at 8.  Judge 
Berg concluded that the document “does not indicate who approved the freezing, let 
alone if Moynihan did so.”  Id. (emphasis in original).  And with respect to documents 
Plaintiffs cited that they said showed Mr. Moynihan presented on “key issues” at 
Board meetings, Judge Berg concluded that Mr. Moynihan did not possess any 
unique information because Plaintiffs already had all relevant Board materials.  Id.  
Judge Berg found Plaintiffs’ arguments about Mr. Montag’s documents similarly 
unpersuasive.  See id. at 8–9.     
 
4) Plaintiffs’ Opp. to Defendant’s Mot. to Preclude Additional ESI Discovery, 
Filed Under Seal at Dkt. 215, is “Pls. MJ ESI Opp.”; and 
5) Magistrate Judge Berg’s Discovery Order, Dkt. 268 is “MJ ESI Order.” 
With respect to Plaintiffs’ appeal of Judge Berg’s ESI Order to this Court: 
6) Plaintiffs’ Mem. of Points and Authorities in Support of Plaintiffs’ Objections 
to and Motion to Reverse in Part Magistrate Judge’s April 24, 2024 Discovery 
Order, Filed Under Seal at Dkt. 278-1, is “Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Br.”; 
7) BANA’s Mem. of Points and Authorities in Opposition to Plaintiffs’ Objections, 
Dkt. 287, is “BANA Dist. Ct. ESI Br.”; 
8) Plaintiffs’ Reply in Support of Plaintiffs’ Objections, Filed Under Seal at Dkt. 
292, is “Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Reply”; and 
9) The Court’s Order Sustaining Plaintiffs’ Objections and Granting Plaintiffs’ 
Motion, Dkt. 298, 2024 WL 3174874 (Jun. 25, 2024) is “Dist. Ct. ESI Order.” 
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On May 8, 2024, Plaintiffs filed a motion to reverse Judge Berg’s order on 
grounds that he incorrectly applied the more stringent “apex doctrine” rather than the 
lesser Rule 26 proportionality standard, and that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag’s 
ESI was likely to be uniquely relevant to Plaintiffs’ claim for punitive damages.  Pls. 
Dist. Ct. ESI Br. at 3.  BANA opposed on numerous grounds, including because 
Plaintiffs acknowledged they were seeking discovery from Messrs. Moynihan and 
Montag not because the executives were actually involved in the issues in the case, 
but to try to pressure BANA to settle.  See BANA Dist. Ct. ESI Br. at 2; see also 
McGarry Decl. ISO BANA Dis. Ct. ESI Br., Dkt. 209-1 ¶ 10.  
On June 25, 2024, the Court reversed Judge Berg’s ESI order.  Dist. Ct. ESI 
Order, at *1.  The Court’s Order contained no specific findings about Plaintiffs’ 
proffered exhibits, noting only that the Court “exercises its discretion and considers 
them.”  Id. at *5.  The Court further explained that it granted Plaintiffs’ motion for 
the limited reason that “ESI from Moynihan and Montag concerning [Plaintiffs’ 
claim for] punitive damages can only be obtained by them, and not from sources 
already designated.”  Id. at *11 (emphasis added).  In particular, the Court found that 
“[a]t trial, Plaintiffs will need evidence of motive, intent, or knowledge and 
ratification by an officer, director, or managing agent to support an award of punitive 
damages,” and therefore “important for [Plaintiffs’ claim for] punitive damages is 
what Moynihan and Montag ‘knew about the [fraud filter], its impact on legitimate 
EDD cardholders, when they knew it, what action they directed, authorized, or 
ratified, and why.”  Id (quoting Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Br. At 15–16). 
A few weeks later, BANA produced ESI from Messrs. Moynihan’s and 
Montag’s custodial files.  Riffee Decl. ¶ 6.  Far from substantiating Plaintiffs’ 
speculation, the ESI discovery confirmed that it was unnecessary in the first place.  
The collection of Messrs. Moynihan’s and Montag’s custodial files only resulted in 
the production of 556 of the nearly 270,000 documents BANA has produced to 
Plaintiffs.  Id. ¶¶ 5–6.  And, as BANA predicted and explained to Plaintiffs, the 
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and the parties engaged in informal briefing before Judge Berg.4  Id. ¶¶ 23–24. On 
December 23, 2024, Judge Berg issued a tentative ruling granting BANA’s request 
because Plaintiffs had not satisfied the apex doctrine’s requirement to exhaust efforts 
to take discovery through less burdensome means.  Id. ¶ 25.  Judge Berg ruled that 
Plaintiffs must take depositions of certain witnesses that BANA identified as 
involved in the development, approval, and implementation of the fraud filter before 
he would reconsider Plaintiffs’ request to depose BANA’s two top executives.  Id.  
Plaintiffs thereafter deposed six additional witnesses—each of whom was involved 
in the development, approval, and/or implementation of the fraud filter.  Riffee Decl. 
¶ 26; see also id. Ex. 7, BANA’s Interrog. Resp. No. 11.  Specifically, Plaintiffs 
deposed Faiz Ahmad (Head of Global Transaction Services (“GTS”), ultimately 
responsible for the prepaid card business, and who reported up to Mr. Montag), 
Jennifer Ehresman (Head of Consumer Client Protection, the group responsible for 
overseeing claims), William Fox (former Director of the Financial Crimes 
Enforcement Network (“FinCEN”) and Global Head of Global Financial Crimes 
(“GFC”), the group primarily responsible for the development of the fraud filter), 
Anne Holt (Director of GFC), Melissa (Gargagliano) Ramirez (a business banking 
operations executive in Commercial Card Fulfillment, Service, & Operations), and 
Paul Simpson (Managing Director of Global Operations).  Riffee Decl. ¶¶ 10–11; 
 
4 The parties collectively filed four informal letter briefs regarding the apex 
depositions:   
1) BANA’s initial informal letter brief, submitted December 16, 2024, is “BANA 
Apex IDC Letter 1,” which is attached as Exhibit 1 to the Riffee Decl.; 
2) Plaintiffs’ initial informal letter brief, submitted December 16, 2024, is “Pls. 
Apex IDC Letter 1,” which is attached as Exhibit 2 to the Riffee Decl.; 
3) BANA’s second informal letter brief, submitted March 7, 2025, is “BANA Apex 
IDC Letter 2,” which is attached as Exhibit 3 to the Riffee Decl.; and 
4) Plaintiffs’ second informal letter brief, submitted March 7, 2025, is “Pls. Apex 
IDC Letter 2,” which is attached as Exhibit 4 to the Riffee Decl.  The 53 exhibits 
attached to Pls. Apex IDC Letter 2 are included in Exhibit 4 to Riffee Decl., and 
referred to herein as “Plaintiffs’ Exhibits.”   
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Ruiz Decl. ¶¶ 16–21.5  During these depositions, Plaintiffs made strategic choices 
about which documents to show the witnesses and which questions to ask.  Not a 
single witness provided testimony supporting Plaintiffs’ assertion that Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag have the uniquely relevant information required by the apex 
doctrine, much less that they were at the center of, drove, or ultimately made any 
decisions regarding the fraud filter or call center policies.  To the contrary, Mr. 
Ahmad definitively told Plaintiffs that 
 
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at 16–17.  Having made choices about who to depose and what to ask, Plaintiffs 
cannot not use the holes in their own discovery record—caused by their own strategic 
decisions—to justify these depositions.  
Upon renewal of BANA’s request for a protective order, the parties engaged 
in a second round of informal briefing for a discovery conference before Judge Berg 
on March 12, 2025.  Riffee Decl. ¶ 30.  Despite lacking evidence, Plaintiffs continued 
to argue that the executives “dr[ove] and ultimately made” and “w[ere] at the center 
of the Bank’s” decisions and policies regarding the fraud filter and call centers.  Pls. 
Apex IDC Letter 2 at 2, 3.  In support of their arguments, Plaintiffs cited 53 exhibits, 
recycling the 46 ESI documents they cited in their first apex IDC letter brief, and 
including excerpts from the transcripts of seven depositions.  See generally id.  Many 
of the 46 ESI documents were also the same or similar as those previously cited in 
Plaintiffs’ ESI brief.  Compare Plaintiffs’ Exhibits 1–48 with Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Br. 
Exs. 2, 7, 11, 13, 15, 25–28, 34.  At the March 12, 2025 discovery conference, Judge 
Berg issued a second tentative ruling allowing Plaintiffs to depose Mr. Moynihan for 
two hours and Mr. Montag for one hour, with both depositions limited to the issue of 
 
5 The depositions of the Head of Commercial Cards Product Management, Bradley 
Garfield, and a GFC specialist, Ryan Schwartz, (Ruiz Decl. ¶¶ 14–15) occurred 
during the time period between Plaintiffs’ October 11, 2024 apex deposition notice 
and Judge Berg’s December 23, 2024 tentative ruling, for a total of 15 depositions 
taken by Plaintiffs.  Riffee Decl. ¶¶ 10–11.   
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punitive damages (Riffee Decl. ¶ 30)—which this Court previously said would 
include discovery as to “what Moynihan and Montag ‘knew about the [fraud filter], 
its impact on legitimate cardholders, when they knew it, what action they directed, 
authorized, or ratified, and why.”  Dist. Ct. ESI Order at *11 (quoting Pls. Dist. Ct. 
ESI Br. at 15–16).  In so ruling, Judge Berg found no reason for either executive to 
sit for a lengthy deposition given the dearth of evidence in the record concerning any 
unique, non-repetitive knowledge they may have.  Riffee Decl. ¶ 30.  Plaintiffs 
unilaterally rejected the tentative ruling.  Riffee Decl. ¶ 31.   
Previously, this Court directed that should either party wish to challenge Judge 
Berg’s tentative ruling, the dispute regarding apex depositions may be raised directly 
to the District Court, rather than through formal briefing before the Magistrate Judge.  
Riffee Decl. ¶ 27.  On March 28, 2025, the District Court accepted the parties’ 
proposed briefing schedule for this motion.  See Dkt. 417. 
LEGAL STANDARD 
“Virtually every court that has addressed deposition notices directed at an 
official at the highest level or ‘apex’ of corporate management has observed that such 
discovery creates a tremendous potential for abuse or harassment.”  Celerity, Inc. 
2007 WL 205067, at *3; see also Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., 282 
F.R.D. 259, 263 (N.D. Cal. 2012).  To curb the potential for abuse, courts have 
developed the so-called “apex doctrine,” pursuant to which courts routinely exercise 
the discretion afforded by Rule 26(c)(1) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to 
forbid an executive deposition or limit its scope.  See Apple, 282 F.R.D. at 262–63.  
Courts have accordingly required the party seeking an apex deposition to show that 
(1) the deponent has “unique first-hand, non-repetitive knowledge of the facts at issue 
in the case,” and (2) the party has “exhausted other less intrusive discovery methods.”  
In re Google Litig.,  2011 WL 4985279, at *2; see also Greer v. Cnty. of San Diego, 
2022 WL 2134601, at *3 (S.D. Cal. June 14, 2022) (precluding apex depositions 
because “Plaintiff has not shown that [the witness] has any unique, first-hand 
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knowledge of the specific circumstances at issue”) (emphasis added); Ramirez v. 
Zimmerman, WL 2106594, at *6 (S.D. Cal. May 14, 2019) (party seeking deposition 
“must show” that requirements of the apex doctrine are met) (emphasis added), aff’d 
sub nom. Cervantes v. San Diego Police Chief Zimmerman, 2019 WL 3072307 (S.D. 
Cal. July 15, 2019), aff’d sub nom. Ramirez v. Zimmerman, 2021 WL 5104371 (9th 
Cir. Nov. 3, 2021). 
ARGUMENT 
There is no dispute that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag are “clearly high-level 
executives whose depositions must satisfy the ‘apex’ requirements.”  In re Google 
Litig.,  2011 WL 4985279, at *2.  Mr. Moynihan has been BANA’s CEO since 
January 2010, and the Chairman of its Board of Directors since October 2014.6  Ruiz 
Decl. ¶ 5.  Mr. Montag was BANA’s second-in-line executive, with the title of COO 
and President of Global Banking and Markets, until December 2021,7 and is now the 
CEO of Rubicon Carbon.  Ruiz Decl. ¶ 6.  “Where a high-level decision maker 
removed from the daily subjects of the litigation has no unique personal knowledge 
of the facts at issue, a deposition of the official is improper.”  Affinity Labs of Tex. v. 
Apple, 2011 WL 1753982, at *15 (N.D. Cal. May 9, 2011) (internal quotations 
omitted).  The apex standard for depositions is different and higher than the one that 
applies to disputes about ESI discovery—a distinction that Plaintiffs concede.  See 
Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Br., at 15–17 (referring to “heightened apex doctrine standard” for 
depositions).  Plaintiffs were able to obtain ESI discovery from Messrs. Moynihan 
and Montag by arguing that their documents might reveal unique information 
relevant to Plaintiffs’ claim for punitive damages.  See Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Br. at 2.  But 
 
6 BANA is a wholly owed subsidiary of Bank of America Corporation (“BAC”).  
Ruiz Decl. ¶ 4.   
7 The apex doctrine protects executives “even after leaving office.”  K.C.R. v. County 
of Los Angeles, 2014 WL 3434257, at *3 (C.D. Cal. July 11, 2014).   
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speculation that an apex executive might have unique information is insufficient to 
satisfy the apex doctrine’s more stringent requirements. 
Under the lesser standard for ESI discovery, the Court found that Plaintiffs had 
sufficiently alleged for ESI purposes that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag may have 
“uniquely relevant information that is not available from the sources already 
designated” only “concerning punitive damages.”  Dist. Ct. ESI Order at *11.  
Specifically, the Court allowed Plaintiffs to pursue documentary support for their 
unsubstantiated claims that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag would possess unique 
documents that show the executives “knew about the [fraud filter], its impact on 
legitimate EDD cardholders, when they knew it, what action they directed, 
authorized, or ratified, and why.”  Id., quoting Pls. Dist. Ct. ESI Br. at 15–16.   
Ultimately, the top executives’ ESI failed to support Plaintiffs’ speculative 
claims.  Indeed, despite the receipt of nearly 270,000 documents, significant written 
discovery, and testimony from 15 BANA witnesses (Riffee Decl. ¶ 10–11), Plaintiffs 
still have not offered any evidence suggesting that either Mr. Moynihan or Mr. 
Montag has the uniquely relevant information Plaintiffs hoped to find.  BANA told 
Plaintiffs via written discovery responses that other BANA personnel (not Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag) developed, implemented, and approved the policies Plaintiffs 
challenge.  Riffee Decl. Ex. 7, BANA’s Interrog. Resp. No. 11.  The witnesses 
Plaintiffs have deposed have told Plaintiffs the same, and the documentary record—
including ESI discovery from the top executives themselves—confirms as much.  
And there is certainly no evidence in the vast record suggesting that either executive 
“directed, authorized, or ratified” the policies Plaintiffs challenge with the requisite 
ill-intent—as Plaintiffs must show to be entitled to punitive damages, which is the 
sole purpose for which Plaintiffs were permitted ESI discovery and currently seek 
these depositions.  See Dist. Ct. ESI Order at *11; Pls’ Apex IDC Letter 2. 
At this point, Plaintiffs’ purported belief that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag 
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speculation that has been refuted by documents and testimony, and an effort to push 
the Bank into a settlement.  There is nothing in the documents or testimony that 
suggests these depositions are warranted.  The apex doctrine exists to protect high 
level executives against this very type of speculative inquiry. 
I. 
Mr. Moynihan Has No Unique Knowledge of the Issues in This Case. 
The documents submitted with Plaintiffs’ latest IDC letter brief—i.e., their 
best evidence—underscore Mr. Moynihan’s lack of involvement, and make clear that 
Plaintiffs cannot meet the apex doctrine’s requirement that they show Mr. Moynihan 
has unique knowledge about the fraud filter or call center staffing, let alone that he 
provided any direction or approval on these issues with the requisite ill-intent to 
support Plaintiffs’ claim for punitive damages.  Plaintiffs submitted 46 ESI exhibits, 
40 of which related to Mr. Moynihan.  See Pls. IDC Ltr. Br.  Only one was Mr. 
Moynihan’s custodial document (Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 15).  Riffee Decl. ¶ 29e.  Exhibit 
15 is 
 
.  At most, this document shows that 
 
 
 
 
  See Pls. IDC Ltr. Ex. 15.  
 
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id.  And it certainly does not indicate that Mr. Moynihan possesses unique knowledge 
or approved, directed, or ratified any actions with the requisite intent for punitive 
damages.  Further, Plaintiffs deposed Ms. Ehresman, yet elected not to ask her a 
single question about 
 
.  Riffee 
Decl. ¶¶ 29f–g.  Having made strategic choices during Ms. Ehresman’s deposition, 
Plaintiffs cannot now use this document as the basis to seek Mr. Moynihan’s 
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—i.e., his knowledge was not unique.  Notably, each of these documents  
  Nor is there any 
indication that Mr. Moynihan or the Board approved or ratified the continued use of 
the fraud filter—much less that they did so with ill-intent.  Plaintiffs cannot speculate 
unique knowledge of Board involvement into existence.8     
Plaintiffs’ Exhibits 4–21 do not reflect any direct conversations or emails with 
Mr. Moynihan, and therefore say nothing about his knowledge.  Many are 
 
 
  Plaintiffs had the opportunity to 
depose and ask the individuals who prepared or sent these documents whether they 
were provided to Mr. Moynihan, or whether they ever had any discussions with Mr. 
Moynihan regarding the documents.  In most cases, Plaintiffs either chose not to ask 
the questions, or chose not to depose the individual altogether.  See, e.g., Riffee Decl. 
¶¶ 29a–d & f–h, 20–22; supra at 11; infra at 21–23.  When Plaintiffs did ask about 
several of these documents, witnesses testified that 
 
  See, e.g., Riffee Decl. Ex. 8, Ehresman Tr. 
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long had all of the relevant Board materials.  MJ ESI Order at 8.  Plaintiffs cannot 
identify any evidence in those materials that could prove, much less suggest, that Mr. 
Moynihan or the Board possess unique knowledge concerning the fraud filter or any 
other issues relevant to their punitive damages claim. 
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group responsible for the development of the fraud filter), 
 
 
  
Riffee Decl. Ex. 9, Fox Tr. 33:24–34:1, 32:12–15.  Despite having knowledge of this 
document since early 2024, as evidenced by the fact that they cited it in their ESI 
brief (see Pls. MJ ESI Br., Dkt. 212-13), Plaintiffs never sought to depose Mr. Firpi, 
or otherwise verify his claim.  And even if 
 
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resolving any complaints.  See Plaintiffs’ Exhibits 22–39 (
 
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Plaintiffs’ failure to show that Mr. Moynihan possesses uniquely relevant 
information comes as no surprise.  In response to written discovery requests, BANA 
identified 13 executives and managers who were primarily responsible for making 
decisions regarding the issues in this case—Messrs. Moynihan and Montag were not 
among them.  Riffee Decl. Ex. 7, BANA’s Interrog. Resp. No. 11.  Plaintiffs deposed 
eight of the 13 executives and managers identified by BANA, and had an opportunity 
to ask them about the documents Plaintiffs say support their apex requests.  Compare 
id. with Riffee Decl. ¶¶ 10–11, 16–20.  Not a single witness’ testimony suggests that 
Mr. Moynihan actually possesses unique, non-repetitive knowledge, much less the 
“evidence of motive, intent, or knowledge and ratification” that Plaintiffs would need 
“to support an award of punitive damages.”  Dist. Ct. ESI Order at *11.   
Rather, these witnesses—who were extensively involved in decisions at the 
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• Faiz Ahmad, Head of GTS (Ruiz Decl. ¶ 17), and the executive primarily 
responsible for the prepaid card business, testified that 
 
 (Riffee Decl. Ex. 5, Ahmad Tr. 244:18–22), 
 
 
 (id. 
 
11 Plaintiffs’ final ESI document regarding Mr. Moynihan (Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 42) is 
a public letter from the California state legislature, and says nothing about whether 
Mr. Moynihan has unique knowledge about this case.  (Plaintiffs’ Exhibits 40-41 and 
50-53 are deposition transcripts; Plaintiffs’ Exhibits 43-48 are ESI documents 
regarding Mr. Montag, and are discussed in Section II, infra.) 
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• Paul Simpson, Managing Director of Global Operations (Ruiz Decl. ¶ 21), 
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(Riffee Decl. Ex. 13, Simpson Tr. 88:8–19), 
 
 
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• William Fox, the FinCEN Director and Head of GFC (Ruiz Decl. ¶ 19), 
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  (Riffee Decl. Ex. 14, Letson Tr. 280:12–16). 
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Montag.”  Pls. Apex IDC Letter Brief 2 at 3.  The Court should reject this argument 
entirely.  Plaintiffs have not proffered a single fact to support this outrageous 
allegation.  Instead, as the documents show, the CEO of one of the world’s largest 
financial institutions was not involved in decisions about the fraud filter, call center 
staffing, or anything else relevant to Plaintiffs’ punitive damages claim. 
Plaintiffs’ contention that the absence of deposition testimony supporting their 
argument somehow is evidence that Mr. Moynihan has unique, non-repetitive 
knowledge of Plaintiffs’ claims is circular, and also easily dispensed with.  See Pls. 
Apex IDC Letter Brief 2 at 3.  Plaintiffs focus on the fact that the Court allowed them 
executive ESI discovery to attempt to prove what Messrs. Moynihan and Montag 
“knew about the [fraud filter], its impact on legitimate EDD cardholders, when they 
knew it, what action they directed, authorized, or ratified, and why,” (id., quoting 
Dist. Ct. ESI Order at *11).  But the executive ESI (and all the other evidence) shows 
that Mr. Moynihan “knew” nothing unique about the fraud filter or any other key 
issue, and “directed, authorized, or ratified” nothing with respect to the same.  What 
Plaintiffs seem to fail to appreciate is that the apex doctrine requires them to show 
more than the speculative possibility that an executive deposition may shed light on 
these questions.  They cannot do it, so their request to depose Mr. Moynihan should 
be denied. 
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Mr. Montag Has No Unique Knowledge of the Issues in This Case. 
Discovery has likewise confirmed that Mr. Montag has no unique, non-
repetitive knowledge that would support Plaintiffs’ claim for punitive damages.  The 
lack of such evidence is underscored by the fact that Plaintiffs point to only six ESI 
exhibits that they claim show Mr. Montag possesses the requisite knowledge for a 
deposition.  Pls. Apex IDC Letter 2, at 2–3.  But none of these documents satisfy the 
apex doctrine.   
Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 43, which Plaintiffs say 
 
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  Riffee Decl. Ex. 5, Ahmad Tr. 109:10–111:10.  And in any 
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 see Dkt. 225-2, ¶¶ 3–4), is irrelevant to 
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else) took any action regarding the fraud filter or the call center with intent or 
knowledge of harm. 
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  Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 46 is another iteration of Plaintiffs’ Exhibit 11, discussed 
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does not mean they have unique knowledge about the fraud filter (which is not 
discussed in either Exhibit 11 or 46), or that they directed, approved, or ratified its 
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knowledge of harm).  See Riffee Decl. Ex. 13, Simpson Tr. 67:10–70:5; Riffee Decl. 
Ex. 9, Fox Tr. 70:19–78:4; Riffee Decl. Ex. 5, Ahmad Tr. 216:16–234:13.  
Further, to the extent Plaintiffs claim that Mr. Montag “approved” the fraud 
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development of the fraud filter also confirmed Mr. Montag’s general lack of 
involvement with the issues relevant to Plaintiffs’ claims.  Mr. Garfield, for example, 
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Plaintiffs Chose to Forgo Less Intrusive Discovery Methods. 
Plaintiffs are not entitled to depose these apex witnesses unless they can also 
show that they have exhausted less intrusive means of obtaining the information they 
seek.  Courts have repeatedly held that apex depositions are “especially” improper 
“where the information sought in the deposition can be obtained through less 
intrusive discovery methods (such as interrogatories) or from depositions of lower-
level employees with more direct knowledge of the facts at issue.”  Affinity, 2011 WL 
1753982, at *15; see also Mehmet v. PayPal, Inc., 2009 WL 921637, at *2 (N.D. Cal. 
Apr. 3, 2009); Celerity, Inc., 2007 WL 205067, at *4.   
Plaintiffs had the opportunity to seek depositions and depose the individuals 
who authored the emails or reports or supposedly had the meetings with Messrs. 
Moynihan or Montag that Plaintiffs believe show the executives may possess unique 
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seek the depositions.  See, e.g., Riffee Decl. ¶ 22.  In others, Plaintiffs chose to avoid 
asking witnesses questions about the exhibits they now rely on (see, e.g., supra at 
11–12; 21–22).  When witnesses were asked about specific documents or their 
general interactions with Messrs. Moynihan and Montag (or lack thereof) with 
respect to the issues relevant to this case, their testimony universally reflects that 
BANA’s two top executives do not possess unique knowledge necessary to require 
their deposition.  See supra at 16–18; 20–22.  Rather, Messrs. Moynihan and Montag 
had limited roles, or in Mr. Moynihan’s case no role, in decision-making with respect 
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Unlike in the handful of cases Plaintiffs have cited to Judge Berg where apex 
depositions have been allowed, neither Messrs. Moynihan or Montag were the chief 
or principal decisionmakers or policy setters for the Bank’s prepaid card program or 
the specific issues at hand.  Cf. Kadrey v. Meta, 2024 WL 4293910, at *1 (N.D. Cal. 
Sept. 24, 2024) (permitting deposition of Mark Zuckerberg because evidence showed 
he was the “chief decision maker and policy setter” concerning division and facts at 
issue).  Nor did they create or develop the fraud rule at issue (the fraud filter) or set 
call center strategies.  Cf. In re Google Litig., 2011 WL 4985279, at *1 (permitting 
deposition of one of Google’s two executives because he “undisputedly created and 
developed a version of the … algorithm at issue in [the] case,” but denying deposition 
of the other executive even though he coauthored a paper with the deposed 
executive).  Rather, this case is much more akin to cases precluding apex depositions 
because speculative assertions that an executive made or participated in key decisions 
are not enough to show they have the firsthand, non-repetitive knowledge necessary 
to satisfy the apex doctrine.  See, e.g., Metabyte, Inc. v. Meta Platforms, Inc., 2025 
WL 799040, at *1 (N.D. Cal. Mar. 13, 2025) (precluding CEO deposition where 
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unpersuasive regarding the question of whether [the CEO], in fact, has unique first-
hand, non-repetitive knowledge of the facts at issue in the case”); Pilot, Inc. v. Cub 
Elecparts, Inc., 2015 WL 13918235, at *3 (C.D. Cal. Dec. 7, 2015) (granting 
protective order where plaintiff’s “unsupported, conclusory, and largely speculative 
statements” failed to demonstrate that apex deponent had “‘unique first-hand, non-
repetitive knowledge’”). 
Plaintiffs’ position here would write the apex doctrine out of the law any time 
punitive damages are sought against a corporate defendant, and, for that reason alone, 
it cannot be correct.  Plaintiffs cannot sidestep the apex doctrine’s careful and well-
developed requirement that they show that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag have 
unique, non-repetitive knowledge about their case by pointing out that their punitive 
damages claim is dead in the water without it.  Of course senior executives are going 
to be briefed on important issues pertaining to their companies (
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will subsequently brief the Board.  But high-level briefing—which is all Plaintiffs 
have shown here—does not mean that they possess the uniquely relevant information 
necessary to satisfy the apex doctrine—much less the requisite intent necessary to 
satisfy the punitive damages standard.  Moreover, if Messrs. Moynihan and Montag 
were to be deposed every time BANA was sued for the longshot potential of punitive 
damages, they would be subjected to dozens of depositions every year.  The apex 
doctrine has developed because executives require “freedom to perform their tasks 
without the constant interference of the discovery process.”  See K.C.R., 2014 WL 
3434257, at *3 (citing Warzon v. Drew, 155 F.R.D. 183, 185 (E.D. Wis. 1994)).  If 
Plaintiffs were permitted to proceed here, on this record, it would turn the apex 
doctrine on its head. 
CONCLUSION 
For the foregoing reasons, and with good cause shown, BANA respectfully 
requests the Court enter a protective order precluding Plaintiffs from taking the 
depositions of Messrs. Moynihan and Montag. 
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Dated:   April 11, 2025 
Respectfully submitted, 
 
By: s/ Matthew L. Riffee
 
 
MATTHEW L. RIFFEE (pro hac vice) 
MRiffee@goodwinlaw.com 
THOMAS M. HEFFERON (pro hac vice) 
THefferon@goodwinlaw.com 
SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH (pro hac vice) 
SRoseSmith@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
1900 N St. NW  
Washington, DC 20036  
Tel: +1 202 346 4000  
Fax: +1 202 346 4444 
JAMES W. MCGARRY (pro hac vice) 
JMcGarry@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
100 Northern Avenue 
Boston, MA  02210 
Tel.: +1 617 570 1000 
Fax: +1 617 523 1231 
LAURA G. BRYS (SBN 242100) 
LBrys@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
601 S Figueroa St., Suite 4100 
Los Angeles, CA 90017 
Tel.: +1 213 426 2500 
Fax: +1 617 346 4444 
VALERIE A. HAGGANS (pro hac vice) 
VHaggans@goodwinlaw.com 
LINDSAY E. HOYLE (pro hac vice) 
LHoyle@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
620 Eighth Avenue 
New York, NY 10018 
Tel: +1 212 813-8800 
Fax: +1 212 355-3333 
YVONNE W. CHAN (pro hac vice) 
YChan@jonesday.com 
JONES DAY 
100 High Street 
Boston, MA  02110 
Tel.: +1 617 960 3939 
Fax: +1 617 449 6999 
JANICE P. BROWN (SBN 114433) 
jbrown@myersnave.com 
MATTHEW B. NAZARETH (SBN 
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MEYERS NAVE 
600 B Street, Suite 1650 
San Diego, CA 92101 
Attorneys for Defendant 
BANK OF AMERICA, N.A. 
 
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MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. FOR A PROTECTIVE ORDER
CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB
 
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 
I hereby certify that I electronically filed the foregoing with the clerk of the 
court for the United States District Court for the Southern District of California by 
using the CM/ECF system on April 11, 2025.  I further certify that all participants in 
the case are registered CM/ECF users and that service will be accomplished by the 
CM/ECF system. I certify under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and 
correct. 
Executed: 
April 11, 2025 
s/ Matthew L. Riffee 
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