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Sentencing Hearing Transcript — United States v. Carl Bradley Johansson

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A reporter's transcript of proceedings at a sentencing hearing in United States v. Carl Bradley Johansson, filed February 3, 2023 as Document 116 in No. 5:21-cr-00170-JGB in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. The hearing took place November 29, 2022 in Los Angeles before the Honorable Virginia A. Phillips and was called in two matters, Criminal 21-170 and Criminal 18-114(B). Counsel state appearances, and the court settles which attorney will argue for Western Distribution, LLC, National Distribution Services, Inc. and Wholesale Distribution, Inc. The court hears a motion to withdraw the guilty pleas before sentencing the three corporations and the individual defendant. The transcript is 76 pages and ends with the government's motion to dismiss Counts 2 and 4 as to Western, which the court grants.

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

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CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA - WESTERN DIVISION

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HONORABLE VIRGINIA A. PHILLIPS, U.S. DISTRICT JUDGE

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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

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Plaintiff,
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WESTERN DISTRIBUTION, LLC, and
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CARL BRADLEY JOHANSSON,
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Defendants.
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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Plaintiff,
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NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION SERVICES, INC., )
WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION, INC., and
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CARL BRADLEY JOHANSSON,
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Defendants.
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Case No. CR 21-170 VAP

Case No. CR 18-114 VAP

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REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
SENTENCING HEARING
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2022
10:06 A.M.
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA

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MYRA L. PONCE, CSR NO. 11544, CRR, RPR, RMR, RDR
FEDERAL OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
350 WEST 1ST STREET, ROOM 4455
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90012
(213) 894-2305

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APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:

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FOR THE PLAINTIFF:
E. MARTIN ESTRADA
United States Attorney
BY: MATTHEW W. O'BRIEN
BY: JOSEPH O. JOHNS
Assistant United States Attorneys
United States Courthouse
312 North Spring Street
Los Angeles, California 90012

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FOR THE DEFENDANTS CARL BRADLEY JOHANSSON, WESTERN
DISTRIBUTION, LLC, and NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION, INC.:
EDWARD M. ROBINSON
Attorney at Law
21515 Hawthorne Boulevard, Suite 730
Torrance, California 90503

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FOR DEFENDANT NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION SERVICES, INC.:
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EXUM LAW OFFICES
BY: DARRYL L. EXUM
Attorney at Law
4129 Main Street, Suite 200
Riverside, California 92501

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FOR THE DEFENDANT WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION, INC.:
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LAW OFFICES OF GRECH & PACKER
BY: PAUL GRECH, JR.
Attorney at Law
7095 Indiana Avenue, Suite 200
Riverside, California 92506

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LAW OFFICE OF ALAN M. LURYA
BY: ALAN M. LURYA
Attorney at Law
15615 Alton Parkway, Suite 450
Irvine, California 92612

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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 29, 2022; 10:06 A.M.

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LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA

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THE COURTROOM DEPUTY:

Calling Eastern Division

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Criminal 21-170 and Criminal 18-114(B), United States of

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America versus Carl Bradley Johansson, Western Distribution,

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LLC, National Distribution Services, Inc., and Wholesale

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Distribution, Inc.

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Counsel, please state your appearances.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

Good morning, Your Honor.

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Matthew O'Brien on behalf of the United States.

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counsel table is Special Agent Ashley Strickland of the

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United States Department of Transportation.

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THE COURT:

Thank you.

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MR. ROBINSON:

And with me at

Good morning.

Good morning, Your Honor.

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Edward Robinson on behalf of Mr. Johansson.

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court.

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which we'll have to address immediately, I assume, on behalf of

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Western, National, and Wholesale.

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THE COURT:

Good morning.

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MR. EXUM:

Good morning, Your Honor.

He's in custody.

He is present in

Also appearing, with your permission,

Good morning.

Darryl Exum.

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The record shows I am counsel of record on National

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Distribution, which was my understanding.

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THE COURT:

All right.

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MR. GRECH:

Good morning, Your Honor.

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counsel of record for Wholesale.

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THE COURT:

Thank you.

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MR. LURYA:

Good morning, Your Honor.

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also counsel for Wholesale.

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THE COURT:

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Well, I am -- you may be seated.

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I am perplexed

about who represents National because there hasn't been a

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substitution of attorney filed in the docket.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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on the ECF as the counsel of record.

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e-mail communication with respect to filing certain position

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papers.

There hasn't, but I'm on the record
And that prompted some

I think the simplest way, if I may, Your Honor, to

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clear this up is, assuming that Mr. Johansson agrees with this,

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is that for the purpose of today's proceedings, to be followed

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up, if necessary, by substitutions of attorneys, that I speak

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for Mr. Johansson and the organizational defendants because

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what I have to address on his behalf is inextricably

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intertwined, to use that phrase, with the position that we're

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asking the Court to rule on with respect to the organizational

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defendants.

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Thank you.

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Alan Lurya,

And I -- I think it would just simplify things.

I

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know that at the change of plea, you took a conflict waiver for

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Mr. Johansson's speaking on behalf of the organizational

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defendants.

So I don't believe that there's any issue with

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THE COURT:

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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Well, it's been an awfully long time.
It has.

So I'm not sure -- I remember that.

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I thought that at the change of plea for National, Mr. Exum

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represented National.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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after the change of plea.

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that.

THE COURT:

He did.

I did not come in until long

So Mr. Werksman was present when I

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took -- and represented Mr. Johansson when I took

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Mr. Johansson's individual plea.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

That's correct.

Mr. Exum represented National for

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purposes of the change of plea as to National.

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recollection?

Is that your

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MR. EXUM:

That's my recollection, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

And then my -- but the motion that

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was -- the motion to withdraw the guilty pleas was filed by

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your office on behalf of both.

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But

MR. ROBINSON:

That's correct.

And the reason that

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we did that -- and just to fill out the record, -- the notice

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of intent to withdraw with respect to Mr. Johansson on the tax

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count and the loan -- tax counts and loan counts was also

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noticed on behalf of Western simply because --

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THE COURT:

Right.

Western, right.

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I thought.

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case, the loan case.

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THE COURT:

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Western is the -- the loan -- the 170

We've been receiving, understandably -Wait a minute.

I'm sorry.

I'm getting

confused.

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MR. ROBINSON:

Can I --

Mr. Exum represents National, not

Western.

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THE COURT:

Mr. Grech represents Western.

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MR. GRECH:

Wholesale, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

Okay.

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MR. LURYA:

Wholesale.

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THE COURT:

Wholesale.

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MR. LURYA:

Correct.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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That's correct.

Mr. --

Mr. Lurya?

So you both represent

Wholesale.

Western -- forgive me for not knowing

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this off the top of my head, but Western must have been

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represented by Werksman.

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Is that correct?

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THE COURT:

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

Oh, maybe that's why I took the waiver.
That might be.

All right.

Mr. --

Yes, Your Honor.

-- O'Brien, do you want to --

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My recollection is that you took a

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conflict waiver with Mr. Werksman because he was representing

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both Mr. Johansson and Western in the PPP case.

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MR. ROBINSON:

All right.

Thank you.

And so, not to be presumptuous,

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Your Honor, but I think to clear up any issues with respect to

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representation -- and I know that both Mr. Exum and Mr. Grech

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do not oppose this and I don't believe that Mr. Johansson does.

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The Court would obviously have to inquire.

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I should represent Mr. Johansson and the

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organizational entities because, at the change of plea,

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Mr. Johansson was the authorized party to enter the plea.

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organizational defendants swore to the same factual basis,

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entered the pleas to the same counts.

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my making of a record this morning.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

THE COURT:

The

And it would streamline

And I believe that --

Well, why don't -- excuse me for

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interrupting you, but why don't we do this.

The motion -- as

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to the motion, which I will entertain very brief argument

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about, I will -- I will let you argue because the arguments as

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to the corporate defendant are not different than the arguments

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as to the individual.

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the -- or if Mr. Exum wishes to add anything as to the

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corporate defendant, I will let him do that.

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Should we proceed in that fashion?

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MR. ROBINSON:

So it doesn't really matter.

If any of

That's -- that's fine with me,

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I don't imagine that --

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THE COURT:

Mr. Exum, do you have any --

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MR. EXUM:

Well, I guess the problem is this,

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Your Honor.

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some point did not want me to be his counsel.

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was filed with the Court of that.

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aware.

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things, but it's my understanding that those are not things

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that Mr. Johansson wants.

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water under the bridge.

It looks as though that Mr. Johansson didn't -- at
And no record

And I wasn't apparently made

So I filed documents for sentencing, I did those

And I understand it happened, it's

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Mr. Robinson is going to represent Mr. Johansson and

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he wants to represent Mr. Johansson because he's been under the

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impression for some time that he represents National.

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Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

Right.

So let me just ask

Mr. Johansson.

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And, Mr. Johansson, do you have any objection to

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going forward this morning on the arguments as I proposed a

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moment ago, that is, Mr. Robinson will be arguing on your

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behalf and on behalf of Western?

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is still in the case, if he's any -- if he has anything to add

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on behalf of National, then I would allow him to do that.

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that agreeable with you?

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THE DEFENDANT:

Because technically Mr. Exum

Is

Well, just as a way of

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clarification, National Distribution ceased operating at the

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end of 2014.

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THE COURT:

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THE DEFENDANT:

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officers, employees, and so on.

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THE COURT:

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understand what you're telling me.

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asking you right now is:

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first of all, to Mr. Robinson arguing on your behalf and on

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behalf of National on the motion and as to sentencing?

That's not my question.

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But the only question I'm

Do you have any objection to Mr. --

My -- my point of clarification is

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that, when I signed the plea agreement over a year ago, I had

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no standing with National to sign anything on behalf of the

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company.

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if I didn't sign all the plea --

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THE COURT:

I was asked by Mr. Exum to do that.

I was told that

Again, that's not my question.

My

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question is really limited to who represents you this morning

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and who represents National.
THE DEFENDANT:

You're the only person --

There is no one here to speak for

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National.

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resigned as the director two or three years ago the authority

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to do anything on behalf of National.

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No.

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So at that time, there were no

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Oh, I understand that.

I -- I don't believe I have and haven't had since I

THE COURT:

All right.

Do you have -- let me ask

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you the question this way.

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proceeding the way I suggested we would?

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THE COURT:

Do you have any objection to

No, Your Honor.

All right.

Thank you.

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All right.

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anything to add, Mr. Exum, but if you do, you'll have the

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opportunity to do so.

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MR. EXUM:

Can I just make a quick record,

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THE COURT:

Sure, certainly.

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MR. EXUM:

The problem, of course, is I was not

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privy to this motion.

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did not have anything to do with this motion.

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I would request of the Court is, if the Court is going to allow

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Mr. Robinson to argue for National Distribution, that at that

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time, I not be his counsel because --

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Your Honor?

THE COURT:

You mean, its counsel.

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MR. EXUM:

Sorry.

So I think, what

Its counsel, I'm sorry,

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Your Honor.

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arguments on a motion that I was not privy to, if I'm still the

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counsel of record.

Because it's not appropriate for him to make those

THE COURT:

Well, I mean, you're counsel of record

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because there isn't -- there's nothing in the record to say

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that you've been substituted out or relieved.

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your point, and it -- I am going to let Mr. Robinson argue.

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don't think anything else needs to be added.

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I don't have anything to add because I

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Then, that's -- you may not have

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MR. EXUM:

That's fine, Your Honor.

THE COURT:

Thank you.

Your Honor.

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Now, I wasn't under the impression that the other

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two corporate defendant -- well, excuse me, that Western or

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Wholesale was going to be sentenced today.

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ready to proceed with that sentencing?

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The Government is ready for everyone

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to be -- for the three corporations and Mr. Johansson to be

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sentenced --

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THE COURT:

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THE COURT:

Are you ready, Mr. Grech?

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MR. GRECH:

I am ready, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

All right.

All right.

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we'll take up the motion.

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THE COURT:

-- today.

Then, that's fine.

First

And just --

Oh, I'm sorry.

Before we do that, I

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noticed that last Wednesday, the last day before a long

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weekend, there was a Notice of Intent to Withdraw the Plea as

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to the tax counts, which is Counts 3, 4, 6, 8, and 9 in

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Case 18-114 and the bank fraud counts in Case 21-170, but no

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motion has been filed.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

But are the parties

So I've decided, after researching this to the best

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that we could, we couldn't really find anything on this, but

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I'm going to construe this as a supplement to the motion, that

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is, that the motion that was filed to withdraw the plea to the

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other counts should now include the counts that I just

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described on the record.

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I would not grant a continuance of the sentencing

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because -- well, for several reasons.

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Notice of Intent to Withdraw is simply that, a notice.

It's

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untimely.

And as

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far as I can tell, there are no new grounds, that is, the

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request to withdraw the guilty plea as to the counts that it

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covers would also -- there's no new -- anything additional that

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could be raised to justify withdrawal of the guilty plea as to

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the new count.

There is no motion to withdraw the counts.

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So I just construe that -- that notice that I should

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now consider the motion to withdraw as to withdraw everything,

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the guilty plea as to all counts.

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MR. ROBINSON:
position on that.

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respect to that notice of intent, it was Mr. Johansson's intent

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as of the date of the filing of that notice to withdraw his

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guilty pleas to the tax counts and the loan fraud counts.

As I set forth in my declaration with

Prior to that, as we set forth in our first

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motion -- well, I'll call it the first motion because now it

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looks like there's a first motion with a supplement --

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Mr. Johansson was not seeking to withdraw his pleas with

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respect to the tax counts or the loan -- the loan fraud counts.

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Your Honor, I appreciate the Court's

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First, because this

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I appreciate the Court's position with respect to
timeliness.

We filed this Notice of Intent the day that

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Mr. Johansson made it clear --

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understand, you set that forth in your declaration, I'm happy

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to accept that representation from you as an officer of the

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Court.

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through the docket and all of the continuances in this case.

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The trial continuances, the sentencing continuances, the

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changes of counsel, it's all in the record and I'm not going to

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go through that now.

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But your -- you know, I could spend a long time going

But suffice it to say that the record speaks for

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itself and makes it clear that this is a last-minute attempt --

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not on counsel's part, you're doing as your client directed

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you -- but it's a last-minute attempt to yet again continue the

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sentencing and avoid the resolution of this case.

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going to happen today.

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Not counsel's timeliness but -- I

MR. ROBINSON:

And it's not

So in light of that, what I'd like to

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do, Your Honor, just to try to perfect the record with respect

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to the prong concerning the claim of legal or factual

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innocence, if the Court is going to construe our notice of

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intent as a supplement to our motion to withdraw, if the Court

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could agree that the pleadings in the 170 case are incorporated

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by reference into the supplement as part of a factual basis for

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the claim of legal innocence so that Mr. Johansson has a record

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from which he can appeal.

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THE COURT:

That's fine.

I mean, that's what I

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MR. ROBINSON:

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And lastly -- and this is something that is unique,
it's very unique.

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think it's relevant just to my comments on the motion to

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dismiss -- to withdraw the plea.

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Mr. Johansson has made it clear that he denies what
he swore to in the factual basis.

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what he would testify to with respect to the loan fraud counts

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were the plea withdrawn and the matter to proceed to trial.

He has some comments as to

I have not had much time with Mr. Johansson

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concerning that position, as evidenced by the fact that this

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notice was given on the 22nd of November, seven days ago.

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Mr. Johansson has some notes that he has drawn up

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that deal with the -- his position on lack of knowledge, lack

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of intent to defraud with respect to the loan counts.

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And I don't want to jump the gun, but I

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Thank you.

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intend when I say I'm construing it as a supplement.

I'd like an opportunity to review those documents

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and maybe after today's hearing, within a short period of time,

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file a supplement to the motion so that the record is perfected

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to the extent that it can be, recognizing that your ruling with

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respect to the supplement, the tax count and the loan fraud

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count, is based upon primarily timeliness as opposed to

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anything else because there's nothing else in the record.

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Is that something that the Court would entertain?

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THE COURT:

No, I would not.

You know, Mr. -- I'm

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going to deny the motion for all the reasons set forth in the

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tentative ruling.

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opportunity to allocute before I impose sentence.

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know, I rarely impose limits on what a defendant can choose to

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say during his allocution.

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he wants when he allocutes.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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And, you

So he can address it to the extent

I appreciate that.

And, Your Honor,

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I do understand very clearly that the right to allocute is a

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personal right, one over which I have no tactical control,

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unlike other constitutional rights.

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Mr. Johansson has -- will have the

Before that happens, if I could have one minute with

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Mr. Johansson so that it's clear what the purpose of his

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allocution is and that would be to perfect the record, to the

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extent it's possible, concerning his claim of factual innocence

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with respect to the loan fraud counts and the tax counts?

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THE COURT:

You may do so now, if you wish.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

Thank you.

You may consult.

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heard in just a moment.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

And I'll let you be

Your Honor, just while they're taking

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a little break, I have the actual victim statement from

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Mr. Velasquez, which I'm not sure the Court has.

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copies to defense counsel and I wanted to offer it to the

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Court.

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THE COURT:

You may do so.

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(Pause in the proceedings.)

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The Government is ready.

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MR. ROBINSON:

Your Honor, we are, subject to our --

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our motion to withdraw.

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THE COURT:

All right.

Which -- which the Court

denies the motion to withdraw for the reasons set forth.
Mr. Exum.

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MR. EXUM:

Is the Court -- I mean, I filed some

documents on behalf of National Distribution.

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THE COURT:

Which I have read.

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MR. EXUM:

Right.

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THE COURT:

But I'm not doing that sentencing at the

17

moment.

Um --

I'm just doing the individual.

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MR. EXUM:

Oh, sorry, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

All right.

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with your counsel at the lectern.

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All right.

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Yes,

Your Honor.

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Then, as to the sentencing

MR. O'BRIEN:

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10:26AM

All right.

as to Mr. Johansson, are both sides ready to proceed?

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6

10:26AM

It's a one-page letter.

Mr. Johansson, you may stand

Has the Government complied with the

Crime Victims' Rights Act as to this proceeding?

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

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Sorry.

Yes, Your Honor.

Are there any victims who wish to

address the Court, other than in the form of the written

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No, Your Honor.

And just so the

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record is clear, I just handed the Court -- and I can lodge a

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copy later today -- of Mr. Velasquez's statement.

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record itself contains the statements of Ms. Spencer and I

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think one of her boys.

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THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

All right.

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All right.

The presentence report was disclosed

And the

Yes.
Okay.

Thank you.
Thank you.

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originally on April the 4th, 2022, with the addendum on

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November 22nd.

Have you reviewed these with your client?

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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I have, Your Honor.

Mr. Johansson, have you seen the

probation office's reports in your case?

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THE DEFENDANT:

I've seen the probation office's

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report maybe two or three weeks ago.

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I've seen it.

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THE COURT:

All right.

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discussed it with your lawyer?

21

THE DEFENDANT:

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THE COURT:

That was the first time

You've seen it.

Have you

Yes, ma'am.

All right.

In addition to the

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presentence reports, I have reviewed the Government's

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sentencing memorandum and then the attachments to it, the

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defense's sentencing memorandum and the documents attached to

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that and, also, to the extent that it's relevant, the documents

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attached -- or the pleadings and the documents attached in

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connection with the motion to withdraw the plea.

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Is this everything the parties have submitted?

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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Government is concerned.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

Yes, Your Honor.

As far as the

Yes, Your Honor.

All right.

Does either side have any

9

objections to the presentence report other than what you set

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forth in the papers?

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MR. ROBINSON:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

No, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

All right.

The Government filed several

14

objections.

15

presentence report.

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guideline calculations in the presentence report.

17

the Court treats the guideline calculation as advisory and does

18

not presume that the guideline sentence is the appropriate

19

sentence.

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Those were addressed in the revised and final
I would adopt the factual findings and the
Of course,

The guideline range here is 87 to 108 months, a two-

21

to five-year period of supervised release, a fine ranging

22

between 25,000 and $1 million.

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restitution, which I understand the parties are requesting that

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that be taken up at a separate hearing to be set within

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90 days.

There's also the issue of

Correct?

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Your Honor, I don't think that's

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necessary.

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think, not disputed as far as the banks are concerned.

We've tried to get -- I mean, the restitution is, I

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THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

It's the individual victims.
Right.

And in the companion case

6

wherein Enrique Garcia is the defendant and in this case, the

7

Government reached out to the individual victims multiple,

8

multiple times and has not received any sort of documentation

9

to support the one restitution claim.

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there would be any value in --

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THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

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10:29AM

MR. O'BRIEN:

And so I don't think

All right.
-- postponing --

So the Government isn't further seeking

restitution as to the individual victims?

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MR. O'BRIEN:

That's correct, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

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The offense -- the guideline range that I just

All right.

Thank you.

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stated is based on the offense level of 28.

As to Group 1, the

19

conspiracy count, the base offense level for a violation of 18,

20

United States Code, Section 371, is 8.

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Guideline 2X1.1, the substantive offense under 49, U.S.C.,

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Section 5124, is Guideline 2O1.2 [sic], plus nine levels

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under -- therefore, under 2O1.2(b)(2) [sic] because the offense

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resulted in substantial likelihood of death or serious bodily

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injury.

But under Sentencing

Plus two levels because the defendant was convicted

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under 49, U.S.C., Section 5124.

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adjusted base offense level.

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defendant's role in the offense as an organizer or leader of

4

criminal activity that involved five or more participants.

5

controlled and operated the co-defendants, National and

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Wholesale, and employed Garcia and Spicer.

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obstruction of justice, resulting in an adjusted offense --

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total adjusted offense level of 25.

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10:33AM

He

Plus two levels for

That's as to the conspiracy

count.
As to Count 4, tax evasion, the base offense level

12

is 18 based on a tax loss of $298,562.

13

Section 2T. -- 2T4.1(g) and then two levels under 2T1.1(b)(2)

14

for use of sophisticated means, results in a base offense level

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of 20.

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Plus four levels for the

The base -- all right.

11

10:32AM

So that means that 19 is the

So under Guideline

The offense was committed while on pretrial release.

17

And the conspiracy -- excuse me.

The guideline calculation for

18

the group -- for Group 2, which is the offense committed while

19

on pretrial release and conspiracy to commit tax fraud, the

20

base offense level is 7 under Guideline Section 2X1.1 and

21

2B1.1.

22

the loss was more than $550,000 and less than $1.5 million.

23

The total loans were $954,417.

24

sophisticated means under Guideline Section 2B1.1(b)(10),

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resulting in 23 plus 4 as an adjusted base level.

And then 14 levels are added under 2B1.1(b)(1) because

Plus two levels for use of

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four levels because the defendant was the leader or organizer.

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And three levels because he committed the offense while on

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pretrial release, resulting in a Level 30.

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10:33AM

So taking into account the adjustment for multiple

5

counts, the offense level is 31, minus three levels for

6

acceptance of responsibility.

7

it's very questionable that the defendant has truly accepted

8

responsibility.

9

3553(a) factors.

10
11

defendant's criminal history category is 2.

12

conviction for conspiracy to violate the regulations,

13

et cetera, so he has three criminal history points.

15

I have considered whether a criminal history category of 2

16

substantially understates the defendant's criminal history and

17

the likelihood of recidivism.
The defendant's sentencing request is a sentence of

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57 months.

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of 120 months.

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22

The Government's sentencing request is a sentence

So turning to the 3553(a) factors, the Court makes
the following individualized determination.

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10:35AM

He has the 2000

Although the argument wasn't made by the Government,

18

10:34AM

And I'll get into that when I go through the

But as to the criminal history category, the

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10:34AM

Although, in my mind, I think

Starting with the nature and circumstances of the

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offense.

And I have -- I have prepared some fairly lengthy

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notes on that.

But they're not intended to be exclusive, that

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is, there are many more facts regarding the nature and

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circumstances of the offenses here than I think needs to be

3

stated specifically on the record.

4

But in summary, as to the 18-114 case, the defendant

5

controlled and operated National Distribution Services from '09

6

to 2015 and Wholesale Distribution from 2015 to the present.

7

In 2015, National was transformed into a new entity, Wholesale.

8

Welding on cargo tanks that haul hazardous

9

materials, including crude oil is dangerous, highly dangerous

10

because of the danger of explosions and so forth.

11

companies doing this work are required to get an R stamp after

12

going through rigorous compliance procedures.

13

Neither the individual defendant nor the

14

co-defendants -- no one, corporate or individual, held the R

15

stamp.

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10:37AM

And so

The defendant was well aware of the regulations

17

because he was previously convicted in April of 2000, after a

18

1993 cargo tank explosion when one of his welders conducted

19

repairs on a cargo tank, in violation of the regulations.

20

When he was released from prison, he received a

21

lenient sentence in that case.

And after serving his prison

22

term, he was released and he returned to operating another

23

company doing the same type of work, Systems Logistics.

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was based at the same location.

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of National, which, again, didn't have an R stamp.

That

And in 2009 he assumed control

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the name of someone, Mr. Scott, who the defendant met in prison

3

who was simply a straw man.

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property when the explosion occurred in September 2012.

5

10:38AM

And the defendant was on the

At least five additional illegal welding repairs

6

were conducted between September of 2013 and May of 2014.

7

May 6th, 2014, during a welding job on a cargo tank, an

8

explosion occurred that caused severe injury to one person and

9

death to another victim.

10

On

The defendant lied to the first responders at the

11

scene, saying he was a customer service rep of a different

12

trucking company.

13

victims worked for a different company.

14

fraudulent acts described in the presentence report -- excuse

15

me -- on September 13th, 2014, he signed an affidavit falsely

16

claiming to regulators that co-defendant Garcia worked for a

17

different company and that National had never done cargo tank

18

repairs.

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10:38AM

The owner and manager of National was listed under

He gave a different name.

He said the

And among many other

On -- I think I have this date right.

August 20th,

20

2014, the FMCSA issued an emergency out-of-service order

21

barring National and the defendant from operating 37 specific

22

tankers and the defendant then shut National down and started

23

Wholesale with largely the same employees and management and

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operated out of the same location.

25

John Corsini, who's another straw man.

This was allegedly owned by

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10:39AM

10:40AM

As to the tax evasion counts, the defendant did not

2

file tax -- income tax returns for the period from 2012 to

3

2017.

4

personal expenses but -- of at least $1,174,173 in unreported

5

income.

6

in tuition payments for private high schools and a university

7

for his four children, but he directed his office manager to

8

write -- or to describe these expenses as employee training in

9

various records.

He used income from National and Wholesale to pay for

He used two corporate accounts to pay about $200,000

10

As I said, that's just a summary.

11

comprehensive account of all of the criminal conduct.

12

In the 21-170 case, while out on pretrial release,

13

over the Government's objection, the defendant established --

14

that is, he was out on pretrial release over the Government's

15

objection.

16

appeal from the magistrate judge's order, the Government's

17

arguments that the defendant, if out on bail, will continue to

18

violate the law.

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10:40AM

I remember clearly the argument before me on the

He established Western Distribution, AKA Advanced

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Distribution.

21

oath that he was the sole owner of Western and had been so

22

since March of 2019.

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10:40AM

It's not a

And in July of 2021, his son Carl claimed under

But going back a bit, around 2003, the defendant's

24

company at the time, Systems Logistics, bought a company called

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Agri-Comm.

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Beginning in 2020, the defendant laid off almost all

2

of the employees at Western and then directed John Mello at

3

Agri-Comm to apply for a PPP loan, listing the defendant's

4

85-year-old mother as the company's owner to avoid disclosing

5

his criminal history on the PPP loan application.

6

received a loan of $286,500.

7

10:41AM

And again, at that same time, April 2020, the

8

defendant directed his office manager, Mr. Surprenant, to apply

9

for a PPP loan on behalf of Western, listing his son as the

10

owner, again to avoid disclosing that he had been indicted.

11

10:41AM

The application stated that Western had 31 full-time

12

employees despite the layoffs that I referred to earlier, and

13

he received a loan of $436,390 and then applied for loan

14

forgiveness, certifying the amount to be forgiven was used to

15

pay eligible costs, payroll costs, which it was not.

16

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10:42AM

And he

The history and characteristics of the defendant.

17

He's 63 years old.

He has two sisters.

He grew up in Southern

18

California.

19

for a short period of time who locked him up for two days and,

20

as a result, he suffers from claustrophobia.

21

growing up, both of his parents worked and he held after-school

22

jobs and worked while he was in college.

23

He and his wife separated, I believe, in 2003.

24

children.

25

from his face.

At 7, he claims he was sent to live with an uncle

When he was

He married in 1990.
He has four

He suffers from asthma, has had skin cancer removed
He has -- and back.

He suffers from high blood

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pressure, high cholesterol, and irregular heartbeat and

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depression and, as I said earlier, claims claustrophobia.

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of the offense, promote respect for the law, and provide just

5

punishment.

6

safety regulations for this industry resulted in the serious

7

injury to more than one victim and death of one.

8

seriousness -- and this is just as to the -- what the defense

9

has referred to as the regulatory counts is made more serious

10

because of his previous experience and conviction for this type

11

of conduct.

12

failure to pay taxes on the large income he was earning over

13

the years by operating these businesses in violation of the

14

law.

15

The defendant's failure to abide by the essential

And the

And then, of course, that's coupled with his

The defendant -- I'm not entirely sure that this

16

comes within the seriousness of the offense and the promote --

17

the need to promote respect for the law.

18

to be mentioned that the defendant has, in his interview with

19

the probation office, repeatedly claimed that he really has no

20

assets and that his faith is such that -- that the accumulation

21

of worldly goods is frowned upon.

22

fraud and untruthfulness that permeates every part of this

23

case.

24
10:44AM

The need for the sentence to reflect the seriousness

25

But I think it needs

That's part of a pattern of

The Government has provided a photograph of the
residence where the defendant was previously living, which is

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obviously a very large estate, and also informed the Court that

2

the defendant went to great efforts to keep the Government --

3

the investigators from locating his residence.

4

reason it was actually finally located was because of the

5

pictures posted on TikTok by his son.

6

to one more reason why TikTok is something that's used often

7

and that -- acknowledgment of the effects it can have.

8

10:45AM

10:46AM

But in this case, it helped the Government find the
property where the defendant was living.

10

I guess, he was -- according to the Government, he was living

11

in a condominium in a gated community that was also worth a

12

great deal of money.

And then after that,

But the amounts of money that were realized from the

14

failure to pay income tax are very large.

15

crimes are very difficult to investigate in the sense paying

16

our taxes is a voluntary act.

17

taxes -- he didn't even file tax returns -- that's a very

18

serious offense.

19
10:46AM

So you can chalk that up

9

13

10:46AM

And the only

And those types of

And when people don't pay their

The need for the sentence to afford adequate

20

deterrence to criminal conduct.

This is a factor, in my view,

21

that's critical for several reasons.

22

First of all, the defendant wasn't deterred by the

23

lenient sentence he received after his 2000 conviction for the

24

same type of conduct.

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He fails to take responsibility.

Moreover, he continues to be untruthful.

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At his plea colloquy in this case, he admitted to

2

his knowledge of the circumstances, of the explosions, all of

3

the criminal conduct covered by the counts to which he was

4

offering his guilty plea.

5

ownership and control of the companies.

6

10:47AM

10:47AM

In his latest filing, he swears under oath to the

7

contrary -- or he asserts to the contrary.

8

he -- again, he claims he has no assets.

9

types of residences that he has and also his efforts to hide

10

this.

That's belied by the

The need for the sentence to reflect -- or to

12

protect the public from further crimes of the defendant.

13

defense has argued that, given the defendant's age, he's

14

currently 63, and the fact that he will be in prison for some

15

period of time, that it's unlikely that he will re-offend.

16

That is belied by the record here.

The

His age does not mean that he won't re-offend.

I

18

mean, when he committed these crimes, he wasn't a young man.

19

He committed the offense charged in Count 1, knowing -- after

20

his conviction in 2000.

21

offenses.

22

on pretrial release.

23

10:48AM

He claims that

11

17

10:48AM

Admitted, for example, to his

But he also committed the tax

And he committed the PPP loan fraud while he was out

These aren't the kinds of crimes that require

24

physical stamina or strength that wanes in old age.

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well commit the same or similar types of fraud, maybe even

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while he's incarcerated but certainly if he is not incarcerated

2

for a lengthy period of time.

3

The need to avoid sentencing disparity.

4

argues that the conditions of pretrial confinement are grounds

5

for leniency and also argues about his -- his health

6

conditions.

7

10:49AM

10:49AM

10:50AM

10:50AM

The defense

But let me take up, first, the argument that the

8

conditions of his pretrial confinement are grounds for

9

leniency.

10

First of all, the claims are exaggerated.
During the COVID pandemic, which was one of the

11

gravest crises our country and the world has faced in decades,

12

everyone suffered.

13

suffered.

14

And the measures that the B.O.P. took to alleviate the

15

danger -- or to guard against the danger of COVID infection,

16

that's what caused the defendant's hardship while he was

17

incarcerated, because he had committed PPP fraud while he was

18

out.

And in particular -- I mean, everyone

In particular, those who were incarcerated suffered.

19

So the quarantine measures were suffered by the --

20

and the hardships involved with the quarantine measures were

21

shared by thousands of other prisoners.

22

think there's a soul in this country that wasn't affected and

23

didn't suffer to some extent, many people losing many family

24

members during COVID.

25

And again, I don't

So I'm not moved by the conditions of pretrial

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confinement as a grounds for leniency.

2

10:50AM

The defendant does suffer from depression,

3

claustrophobia, and so forth.

4

That's all set forth in the psychological evaluation that was

5

submitted.

6

sets the defendant apart from many, many others.

7

10:51AM

10:51AM

10:52AM

But again, there's nothing there that, in my view,

And then, finally, I just have to note that, while

8

the defendant is seeking leniency because of the conditions

9

that he suffered in his pretrial incarceration because of the

10

COVID measures that were taken by the B.O.P., he also took

11

advantage of the efforts that the administration made to

12

provide these forgivable loans to -- so for someone who has

13

engaged in PPP fraud, to complain about what was happening in

14

prison because of COVID, there's a real disconnect there that I

15

feel I just -- I have to point out on the record.

16

10:52AM

And I've considered that.

So I've considered, you know, the voluminous filings

17

in this case, everything that the parties have filed.

I've

18

considered the Government's recommendation, the defendant's

19

arguments for a sentence of 57 months, which is just short of

20

five years.

21

case, as the Government points out, is either close to or

22

exceeds 100 years.

The total exposure that the defendant has in this

23

On certain counts alone, the maximum is 30 years.

24

And I seriously -- for all the reasons that I've set forth as

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to everything in this case, I really seriously considered

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whether 120 months is a sufficient sentence.

2

10:53AM

But I think, after considering everything in the

3

case, I would sentence the defendant to 120 months.

4

considered sentencing him to 240 months, given the extent of

5

the fraud, the harm that was caused, and all of the other

6

factors that I've discussed at length.

7
8

My intended sentence is a sentence of 120 months,
five years of supervised release.

9
10:53AM

10:53AM

10:54AM

I'm not -- I'll listen to argument on the amount of

10

the fine because, although the defendant has, I think,

11

succeeded in hiding assets, I'm not persuaded that a fine is

12

not appropriate here, whether collecting it is feasible or not.

13

But then restitution in the amount that I stated earlier, that

14

is, the -- I think it's 968 -- what's the total amount?

15

sorry.

16

10:54AM

I

I'm

$954,417.
And that's a slight upward departure from the top

17

end of the guidelines here.

18

guideline range at 87 to 108 months.

19

that's the guideline range.

20

considered whether Criminal History Category 2 is an

21

understatement and whether the defendant really has accepted

22

responsibility because I -- if he did not receive the three

23

points downward adjustment for acceptance of responsibility,

24

120 months would be near the low end of the range.

25

All right.

It's one year longer than the
But as I -- I do conclude

Although, as I said, I've

Mr. Robinson, you may argue.

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10:54AM

10:55AM

10:55AM

MR. ROBINSON:
Mr. Johansson?

3

THE COURT:

4

(Off-the-record discussion between

5

the defendant and his counsel.)

6

MR. ROBINSON:

10:56AM

You may.

Your Honor, if I could just indicate

7

to the Court that, as we discussed at the start of this

8

proceeding, Mr. Johansson wants to address the Court with

9

respect to the record for the portion of the motion to withdraw

10

that goes to the loan fraud counts.

11

right to -- to allocute.

12

guideline applies.

13

between those two positions.

14

the Court.

I've explained to him his

I've explained to him how the 3E1.1

And I believe he understands the tension

15

THE COURT:

16

to make any argument?

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10:56AM

May I have one moment, please, with

And so he would like to address

All right.

MR. ROBINSON:

Before he does, do you wish

Your Honor, I'm going to submit on

18

what we have provided to you with -- with one -- one

19

amplification.

20

a little bit more compromised than even what Dr. Lane

21

concluded.

22

needs significant treatment.

23

provide that treatment, as we all know, is outside of the

24

Bureau of Prisons.

25

But I would ask the Court to consider that and, as a condition

I believe that Mr. Johansson's mental state is

I've spent a lot of time with him.

I know that he

The most effective means to

We're not asking for a quick release here.

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of his supervision, order that there be mental health

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treatment.

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And in that, I believe the mental health treatment

4

will alleviate some of the Court's concerns with respect to the

5

need to protect the public.

6

that ten years be considered greater than necessary and ask for

7

more -- more in line with the guideline sentence, as the Court

8

has indicated.

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10:57AM

10:57AM

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10:57AM

I'll submit it to you on those grounds.

And then

Mr. Johansson does wish to address the Court.

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THE COURT:

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THE DEFENDANT:

13

Um, hearing you read the statements that you made

14

over the last few minutes, I'm almost at a loss of where to

15

start.

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10:57AM

We would ask to -- we would ask

All right.

Mr. Johansson.

Thank you, Your Honor.

The Court has not heard one positive or exculpatory

17

thing about myself, my employees, my fellow employees, the

18

company, or any behavior conducted by any of those individuals

19

in four-and-a-half years.

20

My previous counsel, when you alluded to earlier

21

this morning about the delays and multiple delays and so on,

22

those were never my decisions.

23

wanted to go to trial.

24

not ready, not prepared.

25

was multiple, um, kicking the can down the road.

I never wanted to delay.

I

And my counsel at the time was either
That was obvious to me.

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tribunal regarding this accident from 2014.

4

investigated by city, county, state, and then more recently

5

federal regulators.

6

no criminal intent, no criminal charges.

7

filed by the state, they investigated for a year and a half,

8

and they dropped all the charges.

9

Because this was a horrible accident where a man by the name of

10

Samuel Enciso lost his life unnecessarily, clearly.

We were

The other three parties investigated found

He was a good man.

Criminal charges were

Why did they do that?

And he was -- he was a good

12

person to be around.

13

to jeopardize anyone in the company ever, Mr. Enciso or anyone

14

else, for -- for love or money.

But there was no intent on anyone's part

15

Um, so having had to endure this process now for

16

eight-and-a-half years and, as regards to federal charges,

17

spent four years resisting plea offers where my own counsel was

18

more or less badgering me to take a plea as I professed my

19

innocence and as they did no -- no, you know, review of my

20

discovery of -- of anything related to my case.

21

10:59AM

With that being said, this is more or less my fourth

3

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never my decision or intention.

Um, in a weak moment, when I was physically ill and

22

despondent and traumatized, if you will, I sat right here in

23

the corner of this table.

24

indict my son who had just gotten out of college, had worked

25

for the company for a handful of months, completely innocent of

And the prosecution threatened to

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anything in his entire life, save for a traffic ticket, that he

2

was going to be indicted and my sister was going to lose her

3

home if I didn't sign a plea document that, frankly, I couldn't

4

even have read.

5

documents and I had no glasses to do that, if you remember that

6

whole episode.

7

11:00AM

I've cared about everyone I've ever worked with, in

8

or around.

I would never ever jeopardize anyone for one penny

9

in any way, shape, or form or for any other motivation.

10

never did.

11

11:00AM

11:00AM

11:01AM

There was over a hundred pages of plea

And I

I was charged of an incident from 1992, 30 years

12

ago.

The Government has -- has convinced you and clarified --

13

or implied to you that that was somehow an employee of our

14

company or whatnot.

15

died in the accident in 1992 from a welding accident on a tank

16

trailer worked for a third party vendor.

17

employee.

18

worked for, we did not even do welding.

19

everything.

20

this company, which, over the course of the 12 months prior to

21

the accident, had did, I think, 12 or 13 jobs for maybe $400

22

each.

The truth of the matter is the fellow that

He was not our

Our company, which was Atlas at the time that I
We subbed out

Everything we had went to outside shops, including

23

There was a five-year investigation that went on, a

24

cloud over the company, a cloud over myself, and I stepped up.

25

And according to my -- my attorney at the time suggested I sign

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a plea to put the whole thing to bed, put it behind everybody.

2

And so I did that.

3

probation.

4

As it turned out, I got 15 months.

5

Judge Paez, who I very much respect, in going through the

6

sentencing hearing, it dawned on him, as it did with us on the

7

defense side, that I had pled guilty to two things that weren't

8

even federal crimes.

9

they're not even state crimes.

10

11:02AM

However,

They were not federal crimes.

In fact,

But as I -- as I asked my attorney, hey, isn't this

11

the Perry Mason moment?

12

object and whatnot?

13

sentenced to 15 months in federal prison for something,

14

frankly, I had absolutely nothing to do with.

15

I -- I -- at that point in time I chalked it up as the worst

16

mistake of my life, to plead guilty to something I didn't do.

17

However, it did put the case to bed.

18

which was -- was some benefit.

19
11:02AM

I was told I would get six months

Aren't you supposed to stand up and

He did nothing.

And as a result, I got

And -- and I --

It put it behind me,

Um, prior to that point, I had never had any trouble

20

with the law in any way, shape, or form, including paying all

21

my taxes.

22

Fast-forward 30 years or 20 -- well, 28 years, we

23

have -- we have a horrible accident at the Corona location.

24

was not there that day.

25

on.

I

I did not know any welding was going

I did not instruct anyone to weld, nor would I if someone

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had informed me so.

2

Um, the welding job in question, if you want to call

3

it that, was actually, from a financial standpoint, a negative

4

to the company as opposed to what the trailer needed to have

5

done.

6

11:03AM

The intention to change the dome lid out was done on

7

Tuesday morning at the suggestion of Danny Lopez Velasquez.

8

was his idea to change the dome lid out.

9

supervisor, his foreman, Sam Enciso, the fellow that passed

10

away, they both went to Henry and suggested they wanted to

11

change the dome lid out because it had -- the new style had the

12

vent built in as opposed to the old style that was on the

13

trailer.

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11:03AM

11:03AM

11:03AM

No one else.

His

The old style dome lid that was on the trailer

15

didn't even need to be replaced.

16

this to happen at all, which is -- which is doubly troubling

17

regarding a man who lost his life.

18

happen.

19

to upgrade the dome lid on their own.

20

It

There was no need for any of

It didn't even have to

There was no need even for that repair.

They decided

And Henry, who had just come back from a ten-day

21

vacation and wasn't even up to speed on all the projects in the

22

shop, said, "Fine, go ahead, guys.

23

That's fine."

24

I had no idea that these guys were going to do that.

25

Do what you want to do.

That was the extent of it.

I wasn't even there.

The Government contends that I knew all about it and

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I ordered them.

11:04AM

The -- unless I have a crystal ball or some sort of

3

time machine, there's no way I could have known that that was

4

going to happen.

5

said we're going to replace a perfectly good dome lid with

6

another dome lid that's also perfectly good, to no apparent

7

gain other than a convenience for the maintenance fellows, I

8

would not have approved it.

11:05AM

And as a manager of the company, if someone

Um, there's so much I want to cover based upon what

10

you said over the last five minutes.

I'm -- I'm -- I'm,

11

frankly, just scattered regarding it.

But as far as the PPP,

12

Agri-Comm's loan for $286,000.

13

was purchased with funds from my father in 2004.

14

was in bankruptcy.

15

away.

16

it would go to, I would assume my mom.

Agri-Comm was a company that

My father bought it.

The shares transferred to my mom.

17

11:05AM

Absolutely impossible.

2

9
11:04AM

It's impossible.

That company

My father passed
I don't know who else

I have never been an employee of Agri-Comm.

I have

18

never been an officer of Agri-Comm.

19

Agri-Comm.

20

20 years of a family relationship to that company, I have

21

stopped by that company in Central California or North Central

22

California a dozen times in 20 years.

23

coming back from some visit from a relative or something who

24

just popped in to say hello.

25

I have never worked at

I know three or four employees that work there.

In

And that's usually just

As far as the PPP for Agri-Comm, I never suggested

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to anyone at Agri-Comm to get a PPP loan.

2

loans, I heard about the program on the radio and so on.

3

John Mello, who is a 24-year president of Agri-Comm

4

who ran that company from top to bottom, stem to stern, called

5

me one day.

And he said, "Hey, we haven't talked about this in

6

a long time.

But who owns the stock in the company since your

7

dad passed away?"

8

And I said, "It's my mom."

9

He said, "Okay.

10

number and Social Security number."

11
12

joke, he said, "Has your mom ever been in trouble?"
And I said, "My mom's in her 80s.
in trouble for anything."

And I thought he was sort of joking,

15

being flippant about it.

I didn't even understand what the

16

question was.
So I said, "Fine.

18

Security number.

19

day," which I did.

20

the PPP for Agri-Comm.

21

11:06AM

She's never been

14

17

11:06AM

I need your mom's address and phone

And then he also said, which I thought was almost a

13

11:06AM

I knew about PPP

I'll get it to you this afternoon or the next
That's the extent of my involvement with

The funds that went to Agri-Comm went to their

22

payroll account.

23

guidelines.

24

anyone else.

25

I'll get her address and Social

The funds were used entirely per PPP

And not one penny went to me or my family or

In fact, Mr. Mello in his statement to the

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Government has testified that in 20-plus years, I personally

2

nor anyone from my family has ever received one penny in

3

payroll or dividends or funds of any kind from Agri-Comm at

4

all.

Zero.

5

So for the Government to quote the -- Mr. O'Brien's

6

comments regarding the presentence -- that I pocketed this

7

money is -- is, frankly, a travesty to the truth.

8

never saw one penny of that, nor did I solicit a penny.

9

have never solicited a penny from Agri-Comm in

10

20-something-plus years.

I never ran that company.

11

non-compensated director.

That was it.

12

role in anything to do with Agri-Comm.

13

11:07AM

11:07AM

And I

I was a

I had a very minor

John Mello ran that company as he saw fit.

He --

14

he -- he and his family earned $450,000 a year running that

15

company.

16

from the PP -- from their bank, which I had no relation to

17

their bank, don't even know anyone at their bank.

18

got that $286,000, used it exactly per program guidelines with

19

no involvement or benefit to myself.

20

That's the Agri-Comm loan.

It was -- funds were sent

The company

As far as Western Distribution's PPP loan, the

21

company qualified for a $486,000 PPP loan.

22

awarded a $486,000 PPP loan.

23

11:08AM

I never -- I

The company was

At that time, with Western Distribution being a jet

24

fuel distribution company, our business at that company had

25

dropped 80 percent.

We did lay off most everybody.

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There was nothing to do.

2

11:08AM

11:08AM

3

around and do nothing all day.

4

of the company.

5

My son had quit taking a paycheck.

6

four or five paychecks he never even cashed and he was working

7

there.

8

taxable payroll, by the way, through Paychex services with

9

taxes taken out.

11:09AM

11:09AM

It was meant for the survival

I had quit taking a paycheck by that point.
He had backpay -- he had

I had four or five paychecks I never even cashed.

But

10

The company put the money in its corporate accounts.

11

And we had 24 or 26 weeks to use the funds according to program

12

guidelines, which they were.

13

11:08AM

The PPP program didn't mandate hire people to stand

The Government says I pocketed this money and spent

14

it on other things for myself.

Absolutely untrue.

I basically

15

worked -- I worked without pay for over a year to try and make

16

sure that company would survive for the benefit of the

17

employees there that I cared about.

18

The Government has done everything but classified me

19

and categorized me as someone that has horns sticking out of my

20

head and carrying a pitchfork.

21

portrayed to the Court in any way, shape, or form.

22

lot of it on myself for the last four years with Mr. Werksman

23

doing absolutely nothing to put forth anything exculpatory

24

regarding this case to the Court or pushed back on any of the

25

Government's assertions.

None.

I'm not the person that's been
And I put a

I should have -- I should have

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terminated my relationship with him sooner than the beginning

2

of this year.

3

11:09AM

By the way, funds that were paid to Mr. Werksman and

4

his firm were substantial.

5

the retainer was signed in 2018 that it says, if you take a

6

plea, all funds are 100 percent due -- 100 percent earned.

7

11:10AM

Mr. Werksman had been paid to take the company and

8

myself to trial.

9

last insult from the Werksman firm was a bill for $10,000,

10

which was paid, to hire an investigator who was never hired and

11

never investigated anything.

12

Mr. Werksman.

13

11:10AM

11:10AM

11:10AM

I -- I didn't notice at the time

Obviously that didn't happen.

In fact, the

So I parted ways with

The Government contends that I have some sort of

14

vast financial resources to hire all these people that are here

15

to -- to defend myself and the company.

16

help that has been done of any substantive nature in preparing

17

the discovery in my case was done by family members, friends,

18

attorneys that are acting pro bono because -- because they're

19

shocked at the situation I'm in.

20

Frankly, most of the

But following that line, you said that you think

21

that it's -- it's unseemly that I contend that I am not someone

22

focused on material possessions.

That's absolutely true.

23

Can the Government point to anything other than my

24

mistake of renting a house from a friend, which was a mistake,

25

I admit it.

That's the only extravagance I've ever had in my

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life, Your Honor.

2

11:11AM

I've driven three cars in 30 years -- a GMC, a

3

Volkswagen -- 2004 Volkswagen Golf, a little red car.

4

335,000 miles on it before the engine blew.

5

that's got 250,000 miles.

6

cars.

7

no ski boats, there's no -- nothing in my life.

9

a home in my life.

10

even the 1992 accident.

11:12AM

I've never owned

All of that precedes anything going back to

I was raised by my grandmother predominantly in a

12

Swedish family.

13

maybe not the current generation but certainly my grandparents

14

and myself, it's du tar lagom.

15

than you need and you don't want for more than you need.

16

11:12AM

Those are the three

I have never had a home mortgage.

11

11:11AM

And a minivan

There's no sports cars, there's no luxury cars, there's

8

11:11AM

Three cars.

I put

There is a philosophy that Swedish people --

It means you don't take more

And unlike the American colloquialism of keeping up

17

with the Joneses, that's the antithesis of how I was raised.

18

You were meant to help your neighbor, not trying to be better

19

or one up them.

That's not me.

20

Your Honor, I made a mistake.

21

large home from a friend who was in a bad situation.

22

mistake.

23

if you'll have it, for renting that house for those few years.

24

Big mistake.

25

I agreed to rent a
It was a

And it was -- and it was clearly a luxury indulgence,

I wish I could go back and -- and undo that.

That's -- but, again, the genesis of that was me

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helping a friend who was about to lose his home because he

2

couldn't afford it.

3

was supposed to be temporary, and it didn't turn out to be very

4

temporary.

And it

5

But the house -- the $2.1 million home that the

6

Government refers to, that's a condo my parents bought over

7

30 years ago.

8

lived anywhere in my life other than rental properties or with

9

family members.

10

I don't own it.

I've lived there.

I've never

I don't -- I don't -- I don't covet material

11

possessions.

12

have gold watches.

13

sports cars or luxury cars or anything of that nature.

14

not me.

15

last 40 years.

16

people around me.

I don't have any material possessions.

I don't

I don't have -- like I said, I've never had

I like to work.

That's

That's what I've always done for the

And I've worked not just for myself but the

17

I was asked by my family, there was going to be --

18

there was going to be 150 people in here -- employees, family

19

members, friends.

20

This isn't the day.

21

gallery.

22

told them not to come.

23
24
11:13AM

He was having cash flow problems.

25

And I said, no, this isn't the day for it.
You don't need to come and fill up the

I didn't anticipate getting sentenced today, so I
Again, a mistake on my part.

But how I've been portrayed to the Court has just
been -- has been a travesty to the truth, frankly, Your Honor.
The Western -- getting back to the Western loan,

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Western got the 486,000.

2

had 24 weeks to put those funds to use according to the program

3

guidelines.

4

never got one penny of that nor any family member or my son or

5

anyone else.

6

skeleton crew because there was no work.

7
8

11:14AM

10

11:14AM

I

But at the time we got the loan, yes, we were a

company together -THE COURT:

All right.

You've made -- you've

already addressed that point.

11

THE DEFENDANT:

Okay.

12

MR. ROBINSON:

May I just have one moment, please?

13

(Off-the-record discussion between

14

the defendant and his counsel.)

15

THE DEFENDANT:

Okay.

The -- the Government -- the

16

Government said that the reason for the fraud was somehow for

17

me to pocket the money.

18

11:14AM

And that's exactly what they were used for.

We

I was desperately trying to see if we could hold the

9
11:14AM

It went in its business account.

Again, never happened.

But I did request from John Mello, because it

19

appeared that because we had lost so much payroll, we weren't

20

going to qualify for a workers' compensation program.

21

asked him would he be okay with moving a few employees onto our

22

payroll group.

23

it's not that big of a deal, go ahead and you can do it.

24

did.

25

So I

He was not happy about it, but he said, yeah,
So we

That was to address a workers' compensation issue

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that we were going to lose our program because we weren't

2

producing enough workers' comp payroll revenue for it, frankly.

3

Had nothing to do with cheating PPP out of anything.

4
11:15AM

11:15AM

Um, I never signed any documents for PPP, I never

5

spoke to any -- anyone at the bank other than the initial call

6

to ask if they would entertain a PPP loan.

7

any or review any documents that were presented to the PPP loan

8

forgiveness.

9

The worst you can say about the PPP for Western was

10

that we had an administrative mistake for -- we were overfunded

11

$54,000.

12

the SBA.

And when it was apparent, the funds were returned to

13

11:15AM

11:16AM

11:16AM

I didn't provide

Again, nothing went in my pocket, family's pocket or

14

anything.

I worked diligently for the entire time of COVID to

15

try and keep the company going.

16

able to do that.

17

had guys working -- I got them jobs driving forklifts at

18

different companies and vendors we worked for and so on for the

19

benefit of the employees and not for myself.

20

wasn't -- I wasn't getting paid at the time.

And -- and, fortunately, I was

I was running around trying to find work -- I

As I said, I

21

I -- there's so many things in the plea agreement

22

that are just -- just, frankly, so -- so untrue and baseless.

23

The -- the notion that no one in the company cared

24

about safety and these sorts of things is just patently

25

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11:16AM

11:17AM

We had a full-time safety director.

2

$75,000 a year plus benefits.

3

director for, compared to some of our competitors, a fairly

4

small company.

5

assist in training for our drivers, eight-hour single classes

6

by specified trainers once a year.

No one compelled us to do

7

that.

We could have saved $100,000

8

doing that, but we didn't.

9

on a regular basis because I thought it was the prudent and

10

safe thing to do.

11

11:17AM

11:17AM

He was a full-time safety

We paid over 100,000 a year to have someone

We didn't have to do that.

I -- I instructed that to be done

Our -- our shop facilities -- we had weekly safety

12

meetings in the shop.

13

every week, and the company paid for lunch for all the guys.

14

And in the entire time at that facility, we had no workers'

15

comp accidents ever, with the exception of the one accident in

16

2014.

17

11:17AM

Mr. Spicer made

Mr. Spicer typically conducted those

In fact, our workers' compensation modification

18

factor was a 63.

That's not good; that's exceptional.

It's

19

because we ran a safe shop.

20

we had our trucks that were -- were -- had tracking devices on

21

them.

22

I mean, we went to great lengths.

23

THE COURT:

We had safety bonuses, we had --

We limited the speeds to them so drivers couldn't speed.

24

ask you to wrap up.

25

want to say --

All right.

Is there any -- I'm going to

If there's anything else that -- that you

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THE DEFENDANT:

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THE COURT:

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THE DEFENDANT:

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11:19AM

Okay.

perjured myself on that plea.

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reasons.

I sat right there and I

I signed that plea for three

Number one, six of the last ten years I did -- I did

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my taxes.

8

with the dollar figure that the -- that the Government has.

9

figure, I remember, is $244,000.

10

Because I was -- I knew I had to deal with that at some point.

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I have an explanation for not filing the taxes, but

I never mailed them in.

I don't necessarily agree
My

Why do I remember that?

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it didn't relieve me of the obligation.

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I am guilty of.

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I was brought up, I should have made sure those got paid.

15

got behind a couple of years, and I never caught up.

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11:18AM

-- I want you to wrap it up.

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11:18AM

Your Honor --

Of the taxes, I am --

I should have like -- most Americans and like
I

However, over the last four or five years I've filed

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and paid and not had an issue.

But the previous six years in

18

question by the Government, no.

I didn't file those.

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100 percent my responsibility, and I should have.

20

It was

The DOT charges and the PPP charges are -- are,

21

frankly, a wild distortion of the facts, circumstances, witness

22

statements, and regulations.

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just mentioned are exculpatory to myself.

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I believe they're fact and provable.

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All of those things that I have
It's not my opinion;

And the third reason I signed was -- or the second

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reason I signed the plea agreement was because I was threatened

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that they were going to indict my son who had done nothing

3

wrong.

4

And that was their final push to get me to sign the plea.

5

then, also, take my sister's house if -- if I didn't sign the

6

plea.

I believe the Government knows he's done nothing wrong.

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11:19AM

How can I be responsible for knowingly and willfully

8

defrauding the Government on a bank fraud loan when I didn't

9

know anything about it and didn't realize that there was

10

anything wrong because I didn't expect there was anything

11

wrong, didn't assume anything was wrong?

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11:20AM

11:20AM

11:20AM

And

In fact, the Department of Transportation sent us a

13

subpoena for documents to Western.

I called, um,

14

Ms. Strickland here per the subpoena, which said if you have

15

any questions, call, which I did.

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messages, it was not returned.

17

confused about what they were asking for.

I called her twice, left

Because I had questions.

18

The DOT was asking for certain information,

19

financial -- banking information, I thought it was odd.

20

like the subpoena --

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THE COURT:

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THE DEFENDANT:

I was

So

Like I said, you need to wrap up.
Okay.

I attempted to contact

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Ms. Strickland because I -- I was confused by what they were

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asking for.

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Of course, the Government portrays it as I'm

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blatantly, flagrantly creating bank fraud to line my own

2

pockets, when that just absolutely didn't happen at all.

3

And so I signed a plea, really to take

4

responsibility for the taxes, which I did, and protect my son,

5

whom I love, and my sister, whom I love, two people totally

6

innocent and shouldn't have any repercussions for any of this.

7

But I'm genuinely not guilty of the DOT charges, and I don't

8

believe that's my opinion.

9

provable.

And the same thing with the PPP stuff.

10

The worst you can say about the PPP is there was an

11

administrative mistake made by some office personnel at Western

12

and the bank.

13

were sent back to the SBA.

There was a $54,000 overfunding, and the funds

14

THE COURT:

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THE DEFENDANT:

All right.
And no one -- no one spent any of

16

those funds on anything other than program guidelines

17

required -- requirements.

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THE COURT:

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to make your points.

All right.

Thank you.

You've had time

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I'm going to let the Government respond.

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that, though, I just want to make a few points on the record.

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11:21AM

I think that's provable, easily

Before

Everything that the defendant has said as to his
factual innocence is belied by the plea colloquy.

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And as for the claim that he didn't have glasses --

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he didn't have his glasses, he couldn't read all the documents,

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the transcript makes it clear and my memory confirms it that at

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the plea hearing, we gave a lengthy recess so that the

3

defendant would have the ability to get glasses and have

4

everything read to him.

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THE DEFENDANT:

May I comment, Your Honor?

6

THE COURT:

No.

7

11:22AM

11:22AM

One thing really struck me listening to the

9

defendant's allocution, which is at one point saying that

10

pleading guilty when he was innocent back in 2000 was the

11

biggest mistake he ever made in his life.

12

he chose to do it again.

But then apparently

13

So you knew, according to your own words, that it

14

was a mistake to plead guilty and perjure yourself the first

15

time --

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THE DEFENDANT:

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THE COURT:

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THE DEFENDANT:

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THE COURT:

No --

-- but you did it again.
No one threatened my family in 1992.

Well, on the record I asked you many

20

times.

21

motion to withdraw the plea, because of the way the case had

22

progressed.

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11:23AM

You've already had your chance

to allocute.

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11:22AM

No.

I have to say, I anticipated something like this, a

And I think I'm usually very careful when I take a

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plea.

I never want to take a plea from someone unless they

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really understand what they're doing and they agree that

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they've done the things that they are pleading guilty to.

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there's many times where I have stopped in the middle of a plea

3

colloquy and said I'm not going to take this plea because I

4

don't think the defendant understands or the defendant is

5

claiming that he is innocent and I won't take his guilty plea.

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11:23AM

So I was extra careful in this case.

11:24AM

defendant stated under oath that no one had made any threats to

8

him or anyone in his family.

9

statements that were made under oath during the plea colloquy

10

that are being contradicted -- or attempted to be contradicted

11

today, and I'm simply not persuaded.

And that's just one of many

On the taxes, there was one thing I neglected to

13

mention earlier and that is -- well, first of all, the

14

defendant's argument is that he filled them out but he didn't

15

mail them.

That's, of course, no defense on the tax charges.

16

But as the Government points out, he was required

17

under the plea agreement to -- I believe it was filed back --

18

filed the forms for the years he hadn't done it and he still

19

has not done that.

20

THE DEFENDANT:

Mr. Werksman instructed --

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THE COURT:

No.

You've had a chance to speak

All right.

Mr. O'Brien, is there anything you want

22

already.

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11:24AM

And the

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11:24AM

And

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to add?
MR. O'BRIEN:

Thank you, Your Honor.

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11:24AM

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clarifications just so the record is clear, and then I'll just

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respond briefly because I don't want to --

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THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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11:24AM

Your Honor, I just -- I'd like to make a few

7

THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

Go ahead.

Your Honor, when you were discussing

the guidelines, I just want to make sure a couple of things are

10

correct for the record.

11

You referred -- excuse me.

12

you referred a few times to 2O in the guidelines.

13

you got the guidelines right, but it's --

15

17

THE COURT:

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On the welding counts,

No, but I -- all right.

was 2 zero -- not 2 zero -- the letter O.
MR. O'BRIEN:

It's 2Q.

So

I thought it

It's Q?

Your Honor, I defer to the Court, but

in my -- I believe it's 2Q.

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THE COURT:

Well, I have the -- I have the

guidelines here, of course.

20

Oh, no, you're right.

It is -- it is 2Q.

There's

21

underlining, and that's what made me read it as a zero on

22

screen.

I apologize.

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11:25AM

No.

9

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11:25AM

I appreciate the Court's attention to

this case, and I don't want to belabor the point.

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11:25AM

Go ahead.

You're right.

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thing.

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correct.

Anyway, Your Honor, it's a minor

The PSR gets it correct, and Your Honor's points were
I just think --

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11:25AM

11:26AM

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You're right.

It is a Q.

I was reading

it as an O.
MR. O'BRIEN:

Secondly, Your Honor, I think briefly

4

the Court mentioned the second group, which is the PPP loan

5

fraud, and referred to it as the tax group.

6

the Court just misspoke.

7

THE COURT:

8

MR. O'BRIEN:

But I think maybe

You're correct.
Third, Your Honor, on the restitution,

9

I believe the Court omitted the IRS portion, which should be

10

part of the restitution order.

11

THE COURT:

That's right.

The number that I stated

12

was simply the number for the -- for the two banks, and it's

13

$298,562 for the IRS.

14

MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

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MR. O'BRIEN:

Thank you, Your Honor.

All right.
Um, Your Honor, I agree with

17

everything the Court has said this morning.

18

going to refute point by point the many misstatements in

19

defendant's allocution.

20

couple and then I'll be done.

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11:26AM

THE COURT:

And so I'm not

I just briefly want to mention a

The State dropped its criminal investigation, the

22

Riverside County District's Office, into the May 2014 explosion

23

because we filed our Indictment.

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exonerated the defendant is absurd.

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The idea that they somehow

There's never been any threats by the Government.

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None of defendant's very capable counsel have ever alleged

2

that, to their credit.

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11:27AM

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after the explosion and -- I went back and looked at the

5

footage -- he was there that morning.

6

was there the day before.

It's all on his own -- ironically

7

his own security footage.

So, again, that's just patently

8

untrue.

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11:27AM

11:28AM

11:28AM

So this -- he said he

The idea that, you know, he was somehow tricked,

10

coerced at the change of plea hearing, wasn't paying attention,

11

if -- as the Court, I'm sure, knows, he made careful

12

interlineations on almost all of the factual basis -- factual

13

bases to the four plea agreements on very technical matters.

14
11:27AM

Defendant was at the facility on May 6th, 2014, both

He was there.

He was paying attention.

The mental

15

health report generated by the defense casts no doubt on his

16

understanding of those proceedings.

17

know, he wasn't paying attention or capable of paying attention

18

is refuted by those interlineations, which are very careful --

19

carefully made and initialed by defendant.

20

So the idea that, you

Regarding his statements about the Agri-Comm loans.

21

The Agri-Comm loans weren't charged in the Indictment.

22

they're relevant and I disagree with almost everything he said

23

about Agri-Comm, but those weren't charged in the Indictment.

24

And these criticisms of his former counsel, as the

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So

Court is well aware, there was heavy motion practice before the

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trial dates years ago in this case.

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wasn't actively pursuing a defense on behalf of Johansson and

3

all of his attorneys on behalf of the corporations is belied by

4

the docket in this case, which, as the Court knows, was subject

5

to heavy, heavy motion practice.

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11:28AM

11:29AM

11:29AM

And finally, Your Honor, just for the record, just

7

so there's no confusion, the Government is recommending a

8

ten-year prison sentence and not a day more.

9

Thank you.

10

THE COURT:

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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(Off-the-record discussion between

14

the defendant and his counsel.)

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MR. ROBINSON:

All right.

Mr. Robinson?

May I have one moment, please?

Yes, you may.

Your Honor, if I may, Mr. Johansson

16

just asked me to clarify that he was at the business in the

17

morning of the -- of the explosion, early morning.

18

there when it happened.

19

called that there was the accident.

20

Mr. Johansson meant when he said he wasn't at the location on

21

that day.

22

probably that he wasn't there at the time of the explosion.

23

11:30AM

The idea that the defense

He wasn't

He came back in response to being
And that's -- that's what

It should have been more artfully stated by me

THE COURT:

All right.

Then I intend to sentence

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the defendant to 120 months, a five-year period of supervised

25

release, and order restitution.

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The Government did not argue about fines, so I'm not
going to impose a fine at this time.

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4
11:30AM

11:30AM

11:30AM

11:31AM

11:31AM

Any legal cause why sentence should not now be
imposed?

5

MR. ROBINSON:

Other than with respect to the

6

motions to withdraw, no, Your Honor.

7

THE COURT:

All right.

8

MR. ROBINSON:

And I say that --

9

THE DEFENDANT:

You heard the threat; right?

10

MR. ROBINSON:

And I say that just so there's no

11

argument of waiver later.

12

just --

I don't anticipate that, but I

13

THE COURT:

I understand.

14

All right.

The Court has considered the sentencing

15

factors set forth at 18, United States Code, Section 3553(a),

16

as well as the advisory Sentencing Guidelines and hereby impose

17

a sentence as follows:

18

It's ordered that the defendant shall pay to the

19

United States a special assessment of $500 due immediately.

20

Any unpaid balance shall be due during the period of

21

imprisonment at the rate of not less than $25 per quarter

22

pursuant to the B.O.P.'s Inmate Financial Responsibility

23

Program.

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It's ordered that the defendant shall pay

25

restitution in the total amount of $1,252,979 pursuant to 18,

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United States Code, Section 3663(a).

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11:31AM

11:32AM

The amount of restitution ordered shall be paid as
follows:

4

To the victim IRS, $298,562;

5

To BAC Community Bank, $667,917;

6

Bank of the West, $286,500.

7

If the defendant makes a partial payment, each payee

8

shall receive approximately proportional payment unless another

9

priority order or percentage payment is specified in the

10

judgment.

11

11:32AM

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that the defendant's economic circumstances allow for

13

restitution payments under the following schedule:

14

Restitution shall be due during the period of

15

imprisonment at the rate of not less than $25 per quarter

16

pursuant to the B.O.P.'s Inmate Financial Responsibility

17

Program.

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11:32AM

If any amount of restitution remains unpaid after

19

release from custody, nominal monthly payments of at least

20

10 percent of the defendant's gross monthly income but not less

21

than $100, whichever is greater, shall be made during the

22

period of supervised release.

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11:32AM

The Court finds from a consideration of the record

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These payments shall begin 90 days after the
commencement of supervision.
Nominal restitution payments are ordered, as the

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Court finds the defendant's economic circumstances do not allow

2

for either immediate or future repayment of the amount ordered.

3

Pursuant to 18, United States Code,

4

Section 3612(f)(3)(A), interest on restitution ordered is

5

waived because the defendant doesn't have the ability to pay

6

interest, but payments may be subject to penalties for default

7

and delinquency under 18, U.S.C., Section 3612(g).

8

With respect to the restitution owed to the victims

9

BAC Community Bank and Bank of the West, the defendant shall be

10

held jointly and severally liable with convicted defendant

11

Western Distribution, LLC, in Case No. 21-170, for the amount

12

of restitution ordered in this judgment.

13

11:33AM

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their loss, and the defendant's liability for restitution

15

ceases if and when the victims receive full restitution.

16

The defendant shall comply with Second Amended

17

11:34AM

11:34AM

The victims' recovery is limited to the amount of

General Order No. 20-04.

18

The Court waives all fines, as it finds the

19

defendant doesn't have the ability to pay a fine in addition to

20

restitution.

21

The Court has found the property identified in the

22

preliminary order of forfeiture in Case No. 21-170 is subject

23

to forfeiture, and the preliminary order is incorporated by

24

reference into this judgment and is final.

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The Court recommends that the Bureau of Prisons

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conduct a mental health evaluation of the defendant and provide

2

all necessary treatment.

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11:34AM

11:35AM

11:35AM

11:35AM

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the judgment of the Court that the defendant, Carl Bradley

5

Johansson, is hereby committed on Counts 1, 2, and 4 of the

6

Second Superseding Indictment filed in Docket

7

No. 0973 5:18-114(B) and Counts 1 and 3 of the Indictment filed

8

in Docket No. 21-170 to the custody of the Bureau of Prisons to

9

be imprisoned for a term of 120 months.

10

This term consists of the following:

11

Counts 1 and 4 of the Second Superseding Indictment filed in

12

18-114 and 120 months on Count 2 of the Second Superseding

13

Indictment filed in 18-114(B) and Counts 1 and 3 of the

14

Indictment filed in 21-170 to be served concurrently with each

15

other.

16

under 18, United States Code, Section 3147, to be served

17

consecutively.

60 months on

Six months of the statutory sentencing enhancement

18

No, let me think.

19

Because that six months has to be served

20

consecutively, then, rather than 120 months on Count 2, it

21

should be 114 months.

22

11:36AM

Pursuant to the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, it's

Okay.

So the six months under 18, United States

23

Code, Section 3147, is served consecutively to the terms on

24

Counts 1, 2, and 4 of the Second Superseding Indictment filed

25

in the 18-114 case and Counts 1 and 3 of the Indictment in the

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21-170 case.

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So that's a total term of 120 months.

3

Upon release from imprisonment, the defendant shall

4

be placed on supervised release for a term of five years.

5

consists of five years on each of Counts 1, 2, and 4 of the

6

Second Superseding Indictment in the 18-114 case and Counts 1

7

and 3 of the Indictment filed in the 21-170 case, all such

8

terms to run concurrently under the following terms and

9

conditions:

10

The defendant shall comply with the rules and

11

regulations of the U.S. Probation and Pretrial Services Office

12

and Second Amended General Order 20-04.

13

11:37AM

During the period of supervision, he shall pay the

14

special assessment and restitution in accordance with this

15

judgment's orders regarding such payment.

16
17

The defendant shall cooperate in the collection of a
DNA sample from the defendant.

18

11:37AM

He shall apply all monies received from income tax

19

refunds, lottery winnings, inheritance, judgments, and any

20

other financial gains to the court-ordered financial

21

obligation.

22

11:37AM

That

The defendant shall participate in mental health

23

treatment, which may include evaluation and counseling, until

24

discharged from the treatment by the treatment provider with

25

the approval of the probation officer.

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As directed by probation, he shall pay all or part

2

of the costs of court-ordered treatment during the period of

3

supervision and provide payment and proof of payment as

4

directed by probation.

5

no payment shall be required.

6

11:38AM

owner, employee, or otherwise in any business involving the

8

transportation of hazardous materials of any kind without the

9

express approval of the probation officer before engaging in

10

such employment.

officer with access to any and all business records, client

13

lists, and other records pertaining to the operation of any

14

business owned, in whole or in part, by the defendant as

15

directed by probation.
And the defendant -- any employment that the

17

defendant undertakes while on supervision must be approved in

18

advance by the probation office.

19

The defendant shall submit his person, property,

20

residence, vehicle, papers, or other areas under his control to

21

a search conducted by a U.S. probation officer or law

22

enforcement officer.

23

grounds for revocation of supervised release.

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11:39AM

Further, the defendant shall provide the probation

12

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11:38AM

The defendant shall not engage as whole or partial

7

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11:38AM

If the defendant has no ability to pay,

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Failure to submit to a search may be

The defendant shall warn any other occupants that
the premises may be subject to searches pursuant to this

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condition.

2

at a reasonable time and in a reasonable manner upon reasonable

3

suspicion that the defendant has violated a condition of his

4

supervision and that the areas to be searched contain evidence

5

of this violation.

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11:40AM

11:40AM

The Court orders that the drug testing condition

7

mandated by statute is suspended based on this Court's

8

determination that the defendant poses a low risk of future

9

substance abuse.

10

All right.

Mr. Johansson, by pleading guilty and

11

under the terms of the plea agreement that you signed in this

12

case, you've given up most of your rights to appeal my decision

13

as to your sentence.

14

appeal processes.

15

I'm still required to inform you about

A defendant may appeal by filing a Notice of Appeal.

16

He may ask that he be allowed to file any Notice of Appeal

17

without paying the fee that's usually required.

18

14 days to file your Notice of Appeal or you lose the right to

19

appeal.

20

Do you understand?

21

THE DEFENDANT:

22

THE COURT:

23

11:40AM

Any search under this condition will be conducted

You have

Yes, Your Honor.

All right.

I believe there's one count

to be dismissed.

24

MR. O'BRIEN:

25

THE COURT:

There's more than that, Your Honor.

All right.

What counts does the

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Government move for dismissal?

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11:41AM

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MR. O'BRIEN:

6

THE COURT:

7

MR. O'BRIEN:

8

Your Honor, there's one clarification.

All right.

And in the other case?

In the PPP case, Counts 2 and 4.

All right.

Ordered dismissed.

Thank you, Your Honor.
May I make

it for the record?

10

THE COURT:

11

MR. O'BRIEN:

Go ahead.
On the restitution, if I heard the

12

Court correctly, it was ordered joint and several with Western

13

Distribution for both banks.

14

think the Bank of the West portion, which is 286,500, should

15

not be jointly and severally.

16

Agri-Comm loan.

18

11:41AM

8, and 9.
THE COURT:

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11:41AM

In the 2018 case, Counts 3, 5, 6, 7,

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MR. O'BRIEN:

THE COURT:

And I think that's a mistake.

That was the portion of the

All right.

Do you have any objection to

that clarification?

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

All right.

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All right.

We'll take up the --

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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MR. ROBINSON:

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No, Your Honor.
Thank you.

May I make one request to the Court?

Yes.
Could the Court recommend to the

Bureau of Prisons that Mr. Johansson be incarcerated in a

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facility in Southern California?

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THE COURT:

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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Let's take a 10-minute recess, and then I'll take up

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12:02PM

12:03PM

Thank you.

Thank you.

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(Break taken.)

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THE COURT:

All right.

Next I'm taking up -- let's

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see.

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National.

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the -- there's no guideline calculations to be made because

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this is a corporate defendant.

I think, first, I should take up the sentencing for
And there's no opposition from either side as to

The probation office has recommended a sentence of

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probation as to all three of the defendants and that no fine be

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imposed.

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12:03PM

I will make that recommendation.

the three corporate defendants.

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12:03PM

Yes.

So there really isn't any disagreement between the

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parties as to the sentence.

The Government in its consolidated

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opposition made certain objections to statements in the PSR,

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but they're not necessary.

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Court's decision as to sentencing, so I don't need to rule on

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the objections.

Those statements do not affect the

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So who is the -- I do need a corporate

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representative for each of these companies to impose sentence.

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Is that not correct?

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MR. O'BRIEN:

That's my understanding, Your Honor.

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As the Court is aware, Mr. Johansson's been the corporate

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representative for each of the corporations from day one.

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THE COURT:

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Is there any reason why we shouldn't proceed with

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12:04PM

MR. EXUM:

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

Counsel?

No, Your Honor.
No, Your Honor.

All right.

You may stand at the

DEFENDANT REPRESENTATIVE:

National Distribution,

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um, has been out of business since the end of 2014.

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director.

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time of the plea, I didn't have any standing to sign the plea

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anyway but I did.
Wholesale Distribution --

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THE COURT:

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I was a

I resigned a couple, three years after that.

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12:04PM

So, Mr. Johansson --

lectern, Mr. Johansson.

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12:04PM

sentencing as to National?

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12:04PM

All right.

All right.

At the

We're just talking about

National at the moment.
All right.

Is there any legal cause why judgment

should not now be imposed?

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MR. ROBINSON:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. EXUM:

No, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

All right.

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sentence as follows:

Then the Court imposes a

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Having considered the sentencing factors set forth

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at 18, United States Code, Section 3553(a), it's ordered that

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the defendant, National Distribution Services, Inc., shall pay

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to the United States a special assessment of $800 due

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immediately.

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12:05PM

Pursuant to Guideline Sections 8C2.2(b) and

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8C3.3(b), all fines are waived, as the Court finds that the

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defendant is unable to pay and is not likely to become able to

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pay any fine.

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12:05PM

As to restitution as to National, what's the
Government's position as to restitution?

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MR. O'BRIEN:

on the two individual victims -- well --

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12:05PM

12:06PM

The Government isn't seeking restitution

as to the individual victims?
MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

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12:06PM

THE COURT:

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I -- Your Honor, as with Mr. Johansson

That's correct, Your Honor.

All right.

So there's no restitution

order.
Pursuant to the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, it's

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the judgment of the Court that the defendant organization,

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National Distribution Services, Inc., is hereby placed on

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probation on Counts 1 and 2 of the Second Superseding

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Indictment for a term of one year, consisting of one year on

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each of Counts 1 and 2, all such terms to run concurrently

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under the following terms and conditions:

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During the period of probation, the organization

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shall pay the special assessment and restitution -- special

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assessment in accordance with this judgment's orders pertaining

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to such payment.

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12:06PM

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state, or local crime, shall provide the probation officer

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access to any requested financial information, and within

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30 days of the date of this judgment shall designate an

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official of the organization to act as the organization's

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representative and to be the primary contact with probation.

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12:06PM

12:07PM

12:07PM

12:07PM

The organization shall not commit another federal,

The organization shall answer truthfully all

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inquiries by the probation officer and follow the instructions

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of probation; shall report to probation as directed; and shall

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submit a truthful and complete written report within the first

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five days of each month; shall be required to notify the Court

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or probation immediately upon learning of any material adverse

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change in its business or financial condition or prospects, the

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commencement of any bankruptcy proceeding, major civil

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litigation, criminal prosecution, or administrative proceeding

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against the organization, or any investigation or formal

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inquiry by Government authorities regarding the organization.

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The organization shall notify probation immediately

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of any intent to sell the organization, change the name of the

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organization, merge with another business entity, or otherwise

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dissolve or modify in any form or manner the organizational

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structure from its present status.

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All right.

And again, by the nature of the plea

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agreement and the guilty plea, the organization has given up

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most of its rights to appeal the Court's decision.

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defendant may appeal by filing a Notice of Appeal by asking if

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the appeal can be filed without paying the fee that's usually

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required.

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the organization would lose the right to appeal.
Anything else as to National Distribution?

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MR. O'BRIEN:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. ROBINSON:

Nothing.

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MR. EXUM:

Nothing.

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THE COURT:

All right.

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And as then as to Wholesale.

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MR. GRECH:

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Paul Grech on behalf of Wholesale.

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MR. LURYA:

Alan Lurya on behalf of Wholesale.

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THE COURT:

Thank you.

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And do you also represent -- I'm sorry.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Your Honor.
Thank you.

Good morning, Your Honor.

Do you also

represent Western?

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MR. GRECH:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. LURYA:

No, Your Honor.

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THE COURT:

Who represents Western?

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MR. ROBINSON:

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12:09PM

And there are 14 days to file a Notice of Appeal or

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12:08PM

But a

I do, Your Honor.

I can stand in

right now if you'd like to do them simultaneously.

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THE COURT:

We can do them both together.

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And again, the Government -- I've read everything

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that the parties have submitted.

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consolidated opposition.

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would sentence the corporations to one year on probation with

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no fine.

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6
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12:09PM

12:09PM

12:09PM

I've already addressed that.

And I

Is there any reason -- and again, Mr. Johansson is
the corporate representative.
Is there any reason why judgment should not be

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imposed at this time?

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MR. GRECH:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. LURYA:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

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Wholesale and Western.

No, Your Honor.

All right.

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MR. ROBINSON:

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THE COURT:

And that's both as to

Correct.

All right.

So starting with Western,

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having considered the sentencing factors set forth at 18,

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United States Code, Section 3553(a), and the guideline fine

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range, the Court imposes a sentence as follows:

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It's ordered that the defendant shall pay to the

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United States a special assessment of $800 due immediately.

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12:10PM

The Government filed a

It is ordered that the defendant shall pay

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restitution in the total amount of $667,917 under 18, U.S.C.,

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Section 3663(a), to be paid to BAC Community Bank.

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shall be paid in full immediately.

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Restitution

With respect to -- with respect to the restitution

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owed to BAC Community Bank, the defendant shall be held jointly

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and severally liable with the convicted co-defendant

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Carl Bradley Johansson for the amount of restitution ordered in

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this judgment.

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its loss, and the defendant's liability for restitution ceases

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if and when the victim receives full restitution.

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Pursuant to United States -- United States

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Sentencing Guidelines Sections 8C2.2(b) and 8C3.3(b), all fines

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are waived.

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a fine.

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12:11PM

Pursuant to the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, it's
the judgment of the Court that the defendant, Western

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Distribution, LLC, is hereby placed on probation on Counts 1

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and 3 of the Indictment for a term of three years, consisting

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of three years on each of Counts 1 and 3 of the Indictment.

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All such terms to run concurrently under the following terms

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and conditions:
During the period of probation, the organization

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shall pay the special assessment and restitution in accordance

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with this judgment's orders pertaining to such payment.

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12:11PM

The Court finds the organization is unable to pay

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12:11PM

The victims' recovery is limited to the amount of

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The organization shall not commit another federal,
state, or local crime.
The organization shall provide probation access to
any requested financial information.

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organization shall designate an official of the organization to

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act as the organization's representative and to be the primary

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contact with probation.

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12:12PM

inquiries by probation and follow the instructions of the

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probation officer.

directed and shall submit a full, complete, and truthful report

10

within the first five days of each month and is required to

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notify the Court or probation immediately upon learning of any

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material adverse change in its business or financial condition

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or prospects, the commencement of any bankruptcy proceeding,

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major civil litigation, criminal prosecution, or administrative

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proceeding against the organization, or any investigation or

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formal inquiry by Government authorities regarding the

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organization.
And the defendant organization shall notify

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probation immediately of any intent to sell the organization,

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change its name, merge with another business entity, or

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otherwise dissolve or modify in any form or manner the

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organizational structure from its present status.

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12:13PM

The organization shall report to probation as

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12:12PM

And the organization shall answer truthfully all

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12:12PM

Within 30 days from the date of this judgment, the

And again, the Court notes that the defendant, by

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pleading guilty and by signing the plea agreement, has given up

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most of its rights to appeal.

But any appeal must be filed

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within 14 days.

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Notice of Appeal without paying the fee that's usually

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required.

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12:13PM

12:13PM

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Any legal

cause why judgment should not now be imposed?
No legal cause.

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THE COURT:

All right.

The Court has considered the

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sentencing factors set forth at 18, United States Code,

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Section 3553(a).

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It's ordered the defendant shall pay to the
United States a special assessment of $400 due immediately.
Pursuant to Guideline Section 8C2.2(b) and 8C3.3(b),

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all fines are waived.

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unable to pay a fine.

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The Court finds that the defendant is

Pursuant to the Sentencing Reform Act of 1984, it's

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the judgment of the Court that the defendant organization,

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Wholesale Distribution, Inc., is hereby placed on probation on

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Count 1 of the Second Superseding Indictment for a term of one

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year under the following terms and conditions:

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During the period of probation, the defendant shall

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pay the special assessment in accordance with this judgment's

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orders regarding such payment.

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12:14PM

And then as to Wholesale.

MR. GRECH:

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12:14PM

All right.

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12:14PM

And the entity may seek that it can file its

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The organization shall not commit another federal,
state, or local crime.
The organization shall provide the probation office

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12:14PM

12:15PM

12:15PM

12:15PM

Within 30 days from the date of this judgment, the

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organization shall designate an official of the organization to

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act as the organization's representative and to be the primary

5

contact with probation.

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12:15PM

access to any requested financial information.

The organization shall answer truthfully all

7

inquiries by probation and follow the instructions of the

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probation officer.

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The organization shall report to probation as

10

directed and shall submit a truthful and complete written

11

report within the first five days of each month.

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The organization shall be required to notify the

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Court or probation immediately upon learning of any material

14

adverse change in the business or financial condition or

15

prospects or the commencement of any bankruptcy proceedings,

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major civil litigation, criminal prosecution, or administrative

17

proceeding against the organization, or any investigation or

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formal inquiry by Government authorities regarding the

19

organization.

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The organization shall notify probation immediately

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of any intent to sell the organization, change its name, merge

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with another business entity, or otherwise dissolve or modify

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in any form or manner the organizational structure from its

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present status.

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The organization has entered into a guilty plea,

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signed the plea agreement, pled guilty, and, therefore, given

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up most of its rights to appeal but may appeal by filing a

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Notice of Appeal within 14 days from today's date and may seek

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that it be allowed to file any Notice of Appeal without paying

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the fee that's usually required.

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Anything else?

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MR. GRECH:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. LURYA:

No, Your Honor.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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Your Honor, as to Western, the

Government moves to dismiss Counts 2 and 4.

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THE COURT:

It is so ordered.

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MR. O'BRIEN:

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THE COURT:

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(Proceedings concluded at 12:16 p.m.)

Thank you, Your Honor.

All right.

Thank you very much.

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CERTIFICATE OF OFFICIAL REPORTER

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COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES

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STATE OF CALIFORNIA

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I, MYRA L. PONCE, FEDERAL OFFICIAL REALTIME COURT

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REPORTER, IN AND FOR THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE

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CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT PURSUANT

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TO SECTION 753, TITLE 28, UNITED STATES CODE THAT THE FOREGOING

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IS A TRUE AND CORRECT TRANSCRIPT OF THE STENOGRAPHICALLY

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REPORTED PROCEEDINGS HELD IN THE ABOVE-ENTITLED MATTER AND THAT

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THE TRANSCRIPT PAGE FORMAT IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE

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REGULATIONS OF THE JUDICIAL CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED STATES.

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DATED THIS 29TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2023.

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/S/ MYRA L. PONCE

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MYRA L. PONCE, CSR NO. 11544, CRR, RDR
FEDERAL OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER

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