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Defendants’ Reply in Support of Stay of Discovery — Pietschner v. Kabbage (E.D. Tex.)

Filed May 9, 2025 in Pietschner v. Kabbage; one of 17 filings from this case.

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CourtU.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas, Sherman Division
Filed2025-05-09

U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas, Sherman Division · No. 4:21-cv-00110-SDJ · Doc. 86 · 2025-05-09 · Docket on CourtListener

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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT  
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS 
SHERMAN DIVISION 
 
 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ex rel.  
PAUL PIETSCHNER, 
 
v. 
 
KATHRYN PETRALIA, ROBERT 
FROHWEIN, and SPENCER ROBINSON. 
 
 
Case No. 4:21-cv-110-SDJ 
 
 
 
 
DEFENDANTS’ JOINT REPLY BRIEF IN SUPPORT OF THEIR  
JOINT MOTION TO STAY DISCOVERY 
 
At the very first scheduling conference among the parties in this matter, Defendants 
notified the Government of their position that discovery should be stayed pending a resolution of 
Defendants’ jurisdictional defenses.  On the same day Defendants learned of the Government’s 
opposition to Defendants’ requested stay, Defendants timely filed the Joint Motion to Stay 
Discovery (ECF No. 71, the “Joint Motion”).  In the Joint Motion, following the precedent of this 
Court, Defendants sought to stay discovery, other than mandatory initial disclosures, until after the 
Court ruled on their challenges to the Court’s personal jurisdiction over them.  Joint Motion at 1.  
On April 24, 2025, the Government filed its Opposition to Defendants’ Joint Motion (ECF No. 74, 
“Opp.”), first asking that the Joint Motion be denied on the stated basis that “Defendants have not 
made a substantial challenge to personal jurisdiction.”  Opp. at 3-4.  In the alternative, the 
Government asks that the Court stay all deadlines in the Court’s Order Governing Proceedings 
(ECF No. 69), including for initial mandatory disclosures, which were already due (and the parties 
already served) on April 28, 2025.  Id. at 4-5.  Neither of the Government’s arguments is 
persuasive, and the Court should stay discovery pending a ruling on Defendants’ jurisdictional 
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defenses. 
First, the legal and factual bases for Defendants’ motions to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction 
are well-substantiated.  Contrary to the Government’s repeated assertions in its Opposition, 
Defendants do not ignore either the law or the facts in seeking dismissal of this case for lack of 
jurisdiction.  Indeed, the only stated basis for venue and personal jurisdiction in the Government’s 
Complaint in Intervention (ECF No. 40, the “Complaint”) is that Defendants “transacted business” 
in the Eastern District of Texas.  Compl. ¶¶ 6-7.  But none of the Defendants transacted business 
in the Eastern District of Texas when the Complaint was filed on December 20, 2024.  See ECF 
No. 65 at 9-10; ECF No. 67 at 6-7; ECF No. 68 at 4.   
Rather, in its Opposition, the Government seeks to create new law and rely on new unpled 
allegations so it can move forward with this case in the Eastern District of Texas despite that none 
of the Defendants are at home here.  Specifically, the Government argues that there is personal 
jurisdiction over the Defendants so long as there was venue over them when the relator filed his 
qui tam complaint back in February 2021.  The Government’s novel argument is not only legally 
wrong1 but factually incorrect, as none of the Defendants transacted business in the Eastern District 
of Texas in 2021.2  Because the Government fails to establish venue under the False Claims Act 
(“FCA”), it cannot benefit from the FCA’s nationwide service of process provision to obtain 
personal jurisdiction over the Defendants.  And because the Government claims no other basis on 
which personal jurisdiction exists over the Defendants, dismissal is appropriate both for improper 
venue and lack of personal jurisdiction.  Moreover, Defendants have shown that if the Court were 
 
1 See U.S. ex rel. Salomon v. Wolff, 268 F. Supp. 3d 770, 774 (D. Md. July 24, 2017) (noting that the issue of whether 
venue in an FCA action should be evaluated based on the government’s complaint in intervention or on the original 
relator complaint is an “interesting question of first impression”).   
2 See, e.g., Compl. ¶¶ 10-12 (noting each of the three Defendants stopped working for Kabbage in October 2020); id. 
¶ 81 (acknowledging KServicing, a “new entity,” serviced Kabbage’s former loans after the AmEx transaction in 
October 2020).   
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to engage in a Fourteenth Amendment minimum contacts with the State of Texas analysis, the 
Government would fail that test too.  See ECF No. 65 at 6-9; ECF No. 67 at 6-9; ECF No. 68 at 
12-13.3  Because Defendants’ motions to dismiss raise serious jurisdictional challenges for which 
no discovery is required, the Court should enter a short stay of discovery through the pleadings 
stage.    
Second, the Government’s alternative requested relief is moot.  Initial disclosures were due 
on April 28, 2025, and Defendants and the Government met that deadline.  Moreover, Defendants’ 
requested relief is not novel.  In the Joint Motion, Defendants cited three cases in which this Court 
stayed discovery pending the Court’s decision on the Defendants’ motions to dismiss, and in each, 
the parties still complied with the Court’s initial mandatory disclosures deadline despite discovery 
ultimately being stayed.  See Williams v. Tava Ventures, Inc., No. 4:24-CV-122-SDJ, ECF Nos. 
84-85, 96 (E.D. Tex.) (granting motion to stay on May 14, 2024, after the parties exchanged 
disclosures on April 15, 2024); Spadafora v. Hotel Rsrv. Serv., Inc., No. 4:23-CV-735-SDJ, ECF 
Nos. 12, 25 (E.D. Tex.) (granting motion to stay on December 29, 2023, after the parties exchanged 
disclosures on October 19, 2023); Gardner v. Gary Sinise Found., No. 4:23-CV-99-SDJ, ECF Nos. 
24, 28 (E.D. Tex) (granting motion to stay on June 5, 2023, after the parties exchanged disclosures 
on May 15, 2023).  There is no legitimate reason why this case should not follow suit. 
For these reasons, the Court should grant Defendants’ Joint Motion to Stay Discovery and 
stay all forthcoming discovery deadlines.  
 
3 Contrary to the Government’s assertion (Opp. at 3-4), Defendants address Fifth Circuit nationwide service of process 
cases head on.  Those cases do not change the end result:  this Court does not have personal jurisdiction over the 
Defendants and venue is not proper in the Eastern District of Texas.   
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Dated: May 1, 2025  
 
 
 
          Respectfully submitted, 
 
/s/ George P. Varghese 
 
Melissa R. Smith 
Gillam & Smith LLP 
303 South Washington Ave. 
Marshall, TX 75670 
Telephone: (903) 934-8450 
Fax: (903) 934-9257 
melissa@gillamsmithlaw.com 
 
Anjan Sahni (pro hac vice) 
Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP  
7 World Trade Center, 250 Greenwich Street  
New York, NY 10007  
Tel: (212) 230-8800 
Fax: (212) 230-8888 
anjan.sahni@wilmerhale.com 
 
Christopher E. Babbitt (pro hac vice) 
Michaela S. Wilkes Klein (pro hac vice) 
Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP  
2100 Pennsylvania Avenue NW  
Washington, DC 20037  
Telephone: (202) 663-6000  
Fax: (202) 663-6363  
christopher.babbitt@wilmerhale.com 
michaela.wilkesklein@wilmerhale.com 
 
George P. Varghese (pro hac vice) 
Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP 
60 State Street  
Boston, MA 02109 
Telephone: (617) 526-6000 
Fax: (617) 526-5000 
george.varghese@wilmerhale.com 
Counsel for Kathryn Petralia 
/s/ Alexander J. Chern  
Nicholas M. Mathews 
Alexander J. Chern 
McKool Smith, PC - Dallas 
300 Crescent Court, Suite 1500 
Dallas, TX 75201 
Telephone: (214) 978-4258  
Fax: (214) 978-4044 
Nmathews@mckoolsmith.com 
Achern@mckoolsmith.com 
 
Miranda Hooker (pro hac vice) 
Kate E. MacLeman (pro hac vice) 
Kara N. Czekai (pro hac vice) 
Goodwin Procter LLP 
100 Northern Avenue 
Boston, Massachusetts 02210 
Telephone: (617) 570-1000 
Fax: (617) 523-1231 
MHooker@goodwinlaw.com 
KMacLeman@goodwinlaw.com 
KCzekai@goodwinlaw.com 
Counsel for Robert Frohwein 
 
/s/ Henry W. Asbill 
Henry W. Asbill (pro hac vice) 
Christopher B. Mead (pro hac vice) 
Lisa H. Schertler (pro hac vice) 
Paola Pinto (pro hac vice) 
Schertler Onorato Mead & Sears  
555 13th Street NW Suite 500W 
Washington, DC 20004 
Telephone: 202-628-4199 
Facsimile: 202-628-4177 
hasbill@schertlerlaw.com  
cmead@schertlerlaw.com 
lschertler@schertlerlaw.com 
ppinto@schertlerlaw.com 
Counsel for Spencer Robinson 
 
 
 
 
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CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE 
 
I hereby certify that on May 1, 2025, I caused the foregoing to be electronically filed with 
the Clerk of the Court using the CM/ECF system, which sent notification of filing to all attorneys 
of record. 
 
 
 
 
/s/ Alexander J. Chern 
 
 
Alexander J. Chern          
 
 
 
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