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TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings (Jury Trial) as to Carl Delano Torjagbo held on 07/21/2025,… — USA v. Torjagbo (Dkt. 264)
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U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia · No. 1:22-cr-00171-MLB-RDC · Doc. 264 · 2026-02-10 · Docket on CourtListener
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Volume 1 of the transcript of jury trial proceedings for July 21, 2025 in United States of America v. Carl Delano Torjagbo, also known as Karl Lucius Delano, Criminal Action File No. 1:22-CR-00171-MLB, before the Honorable Michael L. Brown in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, Atlanta Division. It is Doc. 264, filed February 10, 2026, and runs to 261 pages. Before the jury is brought in, defense counsel invokes the rule of sequestration and objects to parts of a recorded custodial interview of the defendant, arguing that lengthy statements by the interviewing agent are hearsay and shift the burden. The government says a transcript will be synchronised with the audio as a demonstrative while the original recording goes to the jury. The court asks for a copy with the disputed passages highlighted.
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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Plaintiff, ) CRIMINAL ACTION FILE
v. ) NO. 1:22-CR-00171-MLB
) VOLUME 1
CARL DELANO TORJAGBO
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also known as
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KARL LUCIUS DELANO,
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Defendant.
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BEFORE THE HONORABLE MICHAEL L. BROWN
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
JULY 21, 2025
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Proceedings recorded by mechanical stenography
and computer-aided transcript produced by
JANA B. COLTER, FAPR, RDR, CRR, CRC
Realtime Systems Administrator
Official Court Reporter
1949 U.S. Courthouse
75 Ted Turner Drive, SW
Atlanta, Georgia 30303
(404) 215-1456
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APPEARANCES:
For the Plaintiff: OFFICE OF THE U.S. ATTORNEY
(By: Kelly K. Connors
Nicholas L. Evert)
For the Defendant: LAW OFFICE OF L. BURTON FINLAYSON
(By: L. Burton Finlayson)
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P R O C E E D I N G S
(Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia, July 21, 2025, in open
court.)
THE COURT: Okay. We are here to start the jury
trial in the United States v. Carl Torjagbo.
May I have appearances starting with counsel for the
United States?
MS. CONNORS: Good morning, Your Honor.
Kelly Connors and Nicholas Evert for the
United States. And we're also joined at counsel table by our
two paralegals as well as our FBI agent and IRS CI agent.
MR. FINLAYSON: Good morning, Your Honor.
Leigh Finlayson for Mr. Delano, joined by Mr. Delano.
THE COURT: Okay. Is that how you want me to refer
to him in front of the jury is Delano, Mr. Delano?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. A couple of housekeeping matters.
We have a jury -- jurors coming in at 9:30.
Anything you-all want to talk about?
I'm going to go through the various motions that I've
already denied or discussed, but is there anything in addition
to that that y'all want to talk about?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
I think there's going to be one issue for the parties
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related to the odd -- the custodial interview recording.
And then the other thing I just wanted to ask the
Court, we do have case agents who are not testifying, so the
qualifying questions include two agents who are testifying,
but I did not know if the Court wanted to also include anyone
who at any point may be sitting at counsel table with us.
THE COURT: I think we ought to. If they're going to
be seen in the courtroom associated with the party, I think we
ought to.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
THE COURT: So who so far -- I'm sorry, tell me the
name of your FBI agent.
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor. This is Special Agent
Marcus Wondergum.
THE COURT: Wondergem?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor, like Wonder,
W-O-N-D-E-R-G-E-M.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. CONNORS: And then we also have IRS Special Agent
Holly Phan, that would be P-H-A-N.
THE COURT: And where is she?
MS. CONNORS: Seated right here.
THE COURT: Okay, great.
MS. CONNORS: AND then we have a TIGTA agent who I
think is mostly going to end up being outside of the
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courtroom, but does the Court want to include --
THE COURT: Well, let me just ask you. Are you going
to read any of those -- are you going to read those names when
I ask you to introduce everybody?
MS. CONNORS: I certainly -- I may not for anyone who
would mostly be outside of the courtroom.
THE COURT: Well, I may have something outdated. I
have you as reading the name Scott Caruana.
MS. CONNORS: Carauna, yes, Your Honor. That is --
he was the original case agent.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. CONNORS: But he is in the process of retiring
and he is an agent who would be testifying, so at the pretrial
conference, there was a request that he need be allowed to be
in the courtroom prior to his testimony.
THE COURT: Okay. So I'm going to turn to you at
some point this morning and ask you to introduce everybody who
is at counsel table or anybody else who might be in the room
associated with it.
Okay?
MS. CONNORS: Okay, Your Honor.
THE COURT: And I'm just going to ask you to
introduce all of them.
Or would you rather me do that?
MS. CONNORS: I'm comfortable doing it.
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THE COURT: I'd prefer you to do it because I don't
want to mess up names.
Okay?
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
THE COURT: Anything else?
MR. FINLAYSON: Your Honor, I think she's hit a few
things. Regarding the agents, I wasn't -- I know we talked
about this at the pretrial conference --
First of all, I will invoke the rule of sequestration
or I do invoke the rule of sequestration.
My understanding of the rule is that they only get
one. I did not understand that they get to have like a case
agent at the table from every agency of the government.
THE COURT: I think they've got two, is that right,
that might testify?
MS. CONNORS: Yes. But to be clear, neither one of
these agents who are sitting at counsel table would be
testifying in the trial.
THE COURT: Oh, okay.
MS. CONNORS: So it is --
THE COURT: So then what does that matter?
The sequestration is not to keep it secret from
agents, it's to keep it secret from witnesses.
MR. FINLAYSON: And I guess the other part of that
rule then that I would also invoke is that they can't -- those
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that are testifying, they cannot share testimony or they
cannot talk amongst themselves about what was said during the
trial. I believe that's part of the new amendment as well, so
I guess I would just remind everybody of that.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Regarding -- I can live with
that.
We do need to talk about the statement. There is
a -- there was an interview by Agent Caruana of Mr. Delano.
And the Court has already ruled that that is admissible.
My concern -- and cocounsel -- or the government
counsel and I have talked about this. There are some lengthy
statements from the agent, not from Mr. Delano, but from the
agent that I don't think are appropriate to be read to the
jury or to be played to the jury or told to the jury. They
would be hearsay, they would be burden shifting. There's some
confrontation issues as well, although he's going to testify,
but they are burden shifting and they are hearsay.
And I've asked them to not play those to the jury and
to redact them from the transcript. And so that's kind of
where we are about that issue.
THE COURT: Okay. So I think that typically when
you're talking about an interview, somebody is allowed to say
I told them this to ask them this. I'm assuming that's what
you're talking about, is they sort of made statements and then
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asked him for his reaction to it or questioned him in the
light of them?
MR. FINLAYSON: It was more along the lines of we
have this, this and this and this on you. And we think you're
lying specifically to the actual -- actually, that's bullshit.
So there are lengthy paragraphs that are nice closing
arguments for the government, they're summations of what his
investigation may or may not have revealed. But he said these
things to Mr. Delano during the interview and it's those type
of things that I am objecting to.
THE COURT: I mean, so what's the hearsay or the
confrontation clause if that agent is going to be testifying?
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, it's definitely hearsay. I
think it's clearly a statement -- it's an out-of-court
statement made by -- you know, for the truth of the matter
therein.
THE COURT: No, it's made -- I think it's made for
confronting the witness to get the witness's reaction to it.
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, and that's --
THE COURT: All right. Why don't we do this, because
that's not going to be today, right?
MR. FINLAYSON: We don't need to -- we don't need to
talk about it today, yeah.
THE COURT: Is this going to be a transcript or a
recording?
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MS. CONNORS: Sorry. Yes, Your Honor. The Court may
recall that we -- a transcript was prepared actually at the
Court's request --
THE COURT: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: -- related to this interview. And we
had advised during the pretrial conference that our plan was
to synch that transcript with the audio so that for
purposes -- demonstrative purposes while that is playing, the
jury would be able to follow along.
The original recording would -- without that
transcript synched up would be what goes back to the jury as
the actual evidence.
THE COURT: Okay. I'd like to see -- let me have a
copy of the transcript, not now, but at a break. And
highlight the portions that are at issue, so that we can talk
about it specifically. You've already got it?
MR. EVERT: I've got it, yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Perfect. All right.
MR. FINLAYSON: Or I can email one over.
THE COURT: Okay. Anything else that we need to talk
about in the next ten minutes?
MR. FINLAYSON: The only other thing I would flag
is -- and the government is aware, I had given them expert
notice. And I have an expert scheduled to fly in on
Wednesday.
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I -- as the Court is probably well aware, and I put
it in my motion, the Criminal Justice Act, or the CJA is out
of money, so I do not want to fly an expert in here if they're
going to get him excluded.
So they haven't filed anything to exclude him at this
point, but I would -- I would ask that if they are going to, I
would ask that we address that sooner not later so we don't
fly him.
THE COURT: Okay. Let's do that at the end of the
day.
Did we talk about opening statements today or
tomorrow, witnesses today? We talk about that?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
And the agreement was we would do openings and start
witnesses tomorrow.
THE COURT: Okay. That's what I thought we did, but
sometimes they run together, so I wanted to make sure.
All right. Okay. Anything else in that regard?
MR. FINLAYSON: That's it.
MS. CONNORS: Your Honor, in terms of the transcript,
we just handed up so the --
MR. EVERT: So they're --
MS. CONNORS: Sorry, go ahead.
MR. EVERT: There's two -- there's two sets of
highlighting. There's -- green is portions that we have
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agreed we would be willing -- in an effort to avoid this --
having to raise this issue before the Court, portions that we
said we would be willing to redact.
And then the yellow portions are portions that the
defendant has requested to redact, but we do not agree to
redact.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
All right. Let me go over some of the outstanding
motions that we have. Okay?
I denied several of these. And I did that -- I had
time to consider them, but I wanted to get you-all my answers
because they impacted the trial prep and wanted to get you
those as soon as I had reached a conclusion.
On the motion to continue the trial, which is Docket
197, I set this case for trial in April in last December. The
defendant had changed lawyers and I granted his motion to
continue the trial on March 3rd of this year until today.
On July 1st, the United States filed the third
superseding indictment. I will say that the changes to it
were minimal. The biggest change was that it dropped former
Count Three, the aggravated identity theft claim, over which
there was a number of different disputes. It also modified
former Counts I think Three and Four.
Are those now Two and Three?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
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THE COURT: To allege that the defendant used two
Social Security numbers he had obtained to file two fraudulent
tax returns.
The prior indictment and this indictment allege the
same wire fraud charges, that is the filing of two tax returns
on February 13th of 2021, and that they were fraudulent
because they reported fictitious wages, withholdings and
nonpassive losses from Kremkov Industries. That's
Paragraph 20 of the superseding and 18 of the third. I think
the difference being the dropping of two counts.
But at any rate, those were the exact same type of
wire fraud, the same wire fraud filing, which was the two tax
returns.
The only change being that while the second
superseding alleged that he had used a tax payor
identification number -- well, the second superseding said for
the first tax return, he used a Social Security and for the
second, he used a TIN.
The third superseding indictment merely explains that
he used a Social Security number with a different birthdate
for the second tax return. That's really the only change,
describing one of the tax returns as using a specific
Social Security and as the other using another specific
Social Security.
The defendant suggested that 18 U.S.C. 3161 mandated
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a continuance, but as the United States notes, the Supreme
Court and the Eleventh Circuit have determined that does not
apply to superseding indictments, so that's one of the bases
for denying it.
The defendant also said he needed more time because
this was a, quote, new allegation of wire fraud, close quote,
but it's not a new allegation, the transactions are the same,
the fraudulent tax returns for the years at issue filed on the
date at issue.
There was also a claim about expecting new discovery.
The United States says it was ten pages. You know, I denied
this continuance on July 9th, which gave the defendant more
than 20 days to prepare for the trial. I think my math is
wrong. Yes, it gave them plenty of time to prepare for the
trial.
I'm assuming that the United States gave those
documents as they said they were going to do; is that right?
MS. CONNORS: We did, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay.
MS. CONNORS: And I think we pointed out in some of
our later filings as well that the information related to the
use of the two numbers and two different dates of birth had
always been elsewhere in discovery.
THE COURT: Right. Right. I haven't heard anything
more than that, that discovery was so overwhelming that it
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prevented preparation.
MR. FINLAYSON: Just for the record, it was more --
more like 500 pages came across. There were -- yeah, 500
pages came across is what they sent, but...
MS. CONNORS: Not related to the difference of the
SSN.
THE COURT: Okay. Fair enough. I haven't heard
anybody that says now that they've not got it, Mr. Finlayson
has now come back now and said now that he's got it it's not
what the government said it would be, it's a different
landscape and it's too much to go through. So that would have
been a basis for a renewed motion to continue that was not
filed.
There was another motion to dismiss, this was Docket
197, claiming that Counts -- those same two counts raise
issues of duplicity, that is that one charge includes multiple
crimes.
The government -- I mean, they say this because each
includes wire fraud that claims using a different
Social Security number. The defendant alleges that these two
counts claim Mr. Delano or charge Mr. Delano obtained two
Social Security numbers with two different dates of birth and
that this is an allegation of prior and separate crimes, which
according to the discovery occurred in Florida and/or Texas,
not in Georgia.
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That is a reference to, I believe, what he contends
to being a crime of getting false Social Security numbers.
But that is not the crime that's charged, of course. The
crime that's charged is the wire fraud crime, it's simply
being identified by two different Social Security numbers.
I do not believe, contrary to what the defendant
says, that there is a chance that the jury could either
convict him of fraud on the Social Security Administration, I
just don't think that's possible. We're going to define this
as the filing of the tax returns, not as the filing of
something to get a Social Security card or a Social Security
number.
I also don't think, contrary to what the defendant
argues, that there could be a, quote, non-unanimous jury
verdict, some concluding fraud on the Social Security
Administration and some concluding fraud on the IRS. That's
just not a very realistic possibility and we can charge the
jury around that.
The indictment is very clear that this is the
fraudulent tax returns in order to claim a refund, is that
right, that was never due?
MS. CONNORS: That's correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yes. Not in order to get a Social
Security card.
There is some claim that this is going to muddy the
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waters, I don't agree with that. At any rate, I think
Paragraphs 18 and 14 of the two different indictments show
that there is no risk of duplicity. And since he's not
charged with Social Security fraud, there's no concern about a
second prosecution.
The other claim was that there is some potential
violation of due process that he won't be protected from.
He's not charged with Social Security fraud here. I don't
know whether he could be charged with it later, perhaps he
could be charged with it later, but that won't be a claim
here, because he's not being charged with it in this instance
at all. Maybe he could, I don't know.
There's also a contention that there is -- that this
is somehow a violation of 404(b). I'll talk about that in a
minute under a different thing, but I don't think that it
does.
There's a motion to strike the surplusage, they want
the -- this is Document 207 that I denied.
And by the way, Mr. Finlayson, you can work on jury
instructions. You-all filed them before this amendment. So
if you want to modify them in any way to make this clearer,
just let me know. It would be fine and I think appropriate to
include an instruction that says there is no claim of illegal
activity in regards to the Social Security Administration or
something like that. I'm sure the two of you-all can work out
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some instruction to make this even more clear than it will be
with the instructions as they've already been provided, which
I think are pretty clear that this is about fraudulent tax
returns on those two counts.
Docket 207 is a motion to strike surplusage. The
defendant wants to strike the reference in Counts Two and
Three to the fact that the tax returns were associated with
different dates of birth on the grounds that those allegations
are not material to the offense and that they might cause the
jury to convict the defendant of Social Security fraud.
I've already talked about why I don't think that is
any kind of a likelihood, there's no threat of confusion,
particularly with the good instructions that we already have
that you've provided me and the other ones that you-all can
work on if either party wants them.
I also think that the getting of two Social Security
numbers is part of this case. The indictment alleges that
they were filed on or about the same day, and therefore, the
two date of births distinguish between the two different tax
returns, and I think they provide potentially or maybe a jury
will conclude they provide probative evidence of fraud.
After all, how could someone think that they can file
two different tax returns for the same year under two
different Social Security numbers?
And the fact that he might have gotten those Social
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Security numbers himself shows that this was not a mistake, so
I think it shows both the inextricably intertwined nature of
it and would make it admissible under 404(b).
And that takes us to the final, I think what is the
final issue, and that is the government has provided evidence
in Docket 196 that they intend to produce evidence -- or have
provided notice that they intend to produce evidence that the
defendant obtained those false Social Security numbers, that's
Document 196.
I'm not sure if the defendant challenges that beyond
his other motions, but I agree with the United States that
this evidence is inextricably intertwined with the offenses
charged. I think the evidence might be that he obtained false
identification as part of his plan to file two different tax
returns for the same year, or if it wasn't part of the plan,
at least it's part of the story that he might have done that,
if he did it.
I'm assuming the evidence is what the government
tells me it is, because that's the way I'm evaluating it. It
certainly shows the context and the setup of the crime, it
forms an integral part of the account of the crime and it's
necessary to a complete telling of the crime.
I also think -- so I think it would fall under the
Eleventh Circuit's discussion of inextricably intertwined. I
also believe it would show motive and lack of mistake and
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would therefore be admissible under 404(b). Again, as I said
a moment ago, evidence, if it is that he obtained two
different Social Security numbers, might suggest to a jury
that he was planning to use them to file false tax returns,
maybe not, but that's what could be one thing.
And it would also show that he did not mistakenly
identify a false tax return. I mean, people can make mistakes
on tax returns and maybe they could even make a mistake about
identifying their own Social Security number, but when you do
two in one day with two different, it makes it seem a lot less
like a mistake if you can show that somebody specifically
applied for those different ones, so for those reasons, I'm
adding that to my prior orders on those issue.
You wanted to say something, sir?
MR. FINLAYSON: Just to clarify.
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And not on the Court's ruling, I
don't want to argue this ad nauseam. But I would just point
out that the different Social Security numbers were obtained
some roughly 20 years before the crime that's charged in this
case, so --
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: So in terms of it showing a plan --
THE COURT: So it wasn't like he did it on Tuesday to
do something on a Thursday?
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MR. FINLAYSON: Right.
THE COURT: So if it gets to a point where it's so
far away from that, then you can renew it at the time. I'm
going with what the United States alleged the evidence was.
If it's something different, then before it comes in, let's
talk about it.
Okay?
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, I just think -- I mean, I think
it's key to the Court's analysis that this -- in terms of
every -- in terms of all of this, in terms of the indictment
and the -- it's the birthdate issue that troubles me the most,
the two different birthdates.
THE COURT: Yes. How do you get your birthday wrong?
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, that's --
THE COURT: There's a lot of things I know and
there's a couple of things that I kind of know.
MR. FINLAYSON: Sure.
THE COURT: And then there's a couple of things that
I'm -- a lot of things that I'm not really sure about. I'd
put my birthday in really the very first like I'm pretty sure
I know. I'm sorry, I am certain I know my birthday.
MR. FINLAYSON: Were you there? I mean, were you
conscious?
THE COURT: I've certainly always said it's the same
thing. Maybe I've been to countries where they switched the
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date and the year or the day and the month, but maybe -- if
that happened, let's talk about it, but otherwise, it's hard
to understand.
MR. FINLAYSON: Again, and I don't want to beat this
horse, but I think in terms of the Court's ruling on all of
these issues, they're all very related. And I just wanted to
make it clear that -- and I don't think the government
disputes this, it's in their pleadings as well.
The dates that those different socials were obtained,
one is like '97 and I think the other one is like early, you
know, 2000s, so there's no way that -- unless he's really
farsighted, there's no way that you could get two different
Social Security numbers 20 years in advance and go, yeah, 20
years from now, I'm going to do that.
THE COURT: Yes, I'm with you on that. So why is it
inextricably intertwined?
MS. CONNORS: Your Honor, because it does complete
the story. Without the two different socials, the Court's
right, it would have been difficult for the defendant to
actually be able to file both of those tax returns.
And the issue of, you know, that being connected with
the date of birth, I think, is what further establishes that
it is not a mistake, the defendant was aware of which date of
birth he was using with which Social Security number.
As we pointed out in our filings, we have been able
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now to get certified records from various state and law
enforcement -- or state agencies that I think most
specifically and most importantly here would clearly show that
it was the defendant who was using both of those socials,
because we're talking about driver's license records where we
have the photograph of the defendant that was associated with
driver's licenses where he is using the one date of birth and
one social to get driver's licenses in Texas and Florida.
And then later, when that Social Security number
changes and he's got a different date of birth, then he's
using that to get a Georgia driver's license. And so we think
we've got strong evidence that it is, in fact, the defendant
using both of those Social Security numbers. And, you know,
to be clear --
THE COURT: And that would show that doing it for tax
returns was not accidental.
MS. CONNORS: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: He used one at one time, he used another
at another time, it was sort of the way he did things and that
would show that it wasn't a mistake or an accident but rather
intentional?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
And, Your Honor, I will note that I appreciate that
the Court has essentially ruled both that it is -- that it
qualifies as extrinsic evidence, but that it also could be
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admissible under 404(b). I think that the way that --
THE COURT: I think the way that -- with
Mr. Finlayson's explanation, I think it's much more 404(b)
than intrinsic, because the intrinsic is sort of the story of
the crime, inextricably -- maybe inextricably intertwined with
the crime can go back as far as 20 years before, I suppose it
probably can in a case like this involving fraud in the using
of those things.
But Mr. Finlayson makes a good point that it's like
he might have been purely -- well, it might have been
completely unrelated to the plan and almost certainly was that
sometime later he would use it to commit fraud. It's still
sketchy, is my legal opinion about getting two Social Security
numbers.
But, Mr. Finlayson, this is why you might want to
have a jury instruction, so spend some time and tell me when
you want me to tell the jury that they are not -- that the
defendant is not on trial for having obtained two different
Social Security numbers. And that fraud on the Social
Security Administration for having done that is not part of
this case.
Okay?
MS. CONNORS: And, Your Honor, that's actually where
I was about to go, to say that since the Court had done the
ruling on both sides, I thought -- I think it is appropriate
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for the Court at the point where that testimony would come in
related to acquisition of the two different Social Security
numbers that the Court give a limiting instruction.
I will say I think here the standard 404(b)
instruction is a little odd in terms of the facts of what's
going on here. So maybe it's that we can propose a little bit
of a tweak potentially to that language. But certainly I
think that it would be appropriate and the Court should give a
limiting instruction in light of the 404(b) ruling, the
Eleventh Circuit has made it very clear that if you don't,
it's reversible error, so we do want to make sure that comes
in.
The one thing that I would just --
THE COURT: So you-all work on the way that you-all
want me to tell the jury at the time.
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
And I know that they're there. And just one little
component of that, our witness with Social Security has -- the
majority of his testimony is not going to be related to the
acquisition of the two Social Security numbers, it is instead
going to be information about Social Security, taxes.
THE COURT: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: And other things that are reflected in
the PPP loan application and the two different tax returns.
So I would ask that the Court allow me to notify Your Honor
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when we're at the appropriate point in his testimony, because
I think if the Court gives a limiting instruction at the
beginning, you're essentially giving a confusing
instruction --
THE COURT: Yes, I know.
MS. CONNORS: -- that would make it seem as if the
jury should not be considering any of his testimony for the
purpose of the specific crimes charged.
THE COURT: All right. So you-all tell me when and
help me with what, at least make a first proposal after
talking together, about what I ought to tell them. And I
always think it's good to tell them what they can't use it for
and also what they can use it for. And that's --
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: -- what the pattern instruction suggests,
but if it needs to be modified, y'all just let me know.
Okay?
MS. CONNORS: Thank you, Your Honor.
MR. FINLAYSON: Last thing before I -- before the
Eleventh Circuit says I waived it, in terms of explaining how
this happened, the government says we need to have -- to put
all of this information in the jury -- before the jury so they
can know how two got filed because, you know, otherwise it
might be impossible.
That -- that is not an appropriate reason, we submit,
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to let this evidence in, because it happened, two returns got
filed. We're not going to get up here and say only one got
filed, two returns got filed, that is not an issue, that's not
at issue.
And to say that they must put in this intrinsic
evidence to show how it was possible, that's -- that's -- that
just doesn't -- I submit they don't need to complete that
story. It's sort of like the old officer getting on the stand
saying we're going to explain his conduct. Well, sometimes,
you know, the conduct isn't in question. We don't need to
explain how it happened.
THE COURT: Well, that's right. I think the
inextricably intertwined talks about the context and sets up
an integral part of the account or necessary for a complete
telling of it. But your 20-year time span might potentially
stretch that.
Although I do think that there is something left
there for the context of how he happened to have two that --
two Social Security numbers that allowed him to do this, it
ties him to it, and I think more so under the 404(b), it's
hard to think that it was a mistake when he had been using two
throughout his I guess adult or professional or whatever time
interacting with the government in terms of how he got
driver's licenses or things of that nature, that all of that
provides the fact that doing it this time was not a mistake or
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something of that nature.
I also think there's very little chance of any type
of prejudice here. I mean, I don't think it's not like what
you're talking about is some egregious crime that's going to
shock the jury and prejudice them against him in terms of
getting a Social Security number.
It's not like it's something that -- I mean, it's
sort of, as I said, sketchy and odd to do, but it's not
something that is reprehensible and so that it grows a lot of
unfair prejudice.
It's fairly -- I don't know, in terms of in
comparison to using -- filing false tax returns for a made-up
company to get a couple of million dollars, or was it
$3 million in tax returns, it's rather mundane. And I think
that certainly any prejudice can be controlled through a
proper instruction.
Okay?
All right. You-all ready for the jury to come in?
As I said before, I'm happy for you-all to turn
around and use the back table with your back to me so that you
can see the jury.
Let's bring them in and let's see how we can do this.
Y'all are going to need to clear the front row on
this side.
MS. CONNORS: And Your Honor, do you think it's okay
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for the agents to leave or do you think you would want them to
stay in?
THE COURT: If you are going to introduce them, I'd
like them stand up so that they can be seen. And then if they
want to leave, they can or they can stay here for this or
maybe they can sit in the jury box. Well, probably not in the
jury box. If we need more room -- are there any interns here?
You-all can sit in the jury box if you-all want to in the
beginning. Yes.
So do a good job, y'all. We've got some interns and
law students here.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors entered the
courtroom.)
THE COURT: Thank you very much.
All right, good morning, everybody.
My name is Mike Brown and I am the judge who will be
presiding over the trial on which we are about to select a
jury.
I want to start off our time with you by recognizing
that coming here today and going through this process may be
inconvenient to all of you. We all have other things we
probably would rather be doing today, and I understand that.
But serving on a jury or going through this process
is a very important part of the duties of citizenship. They
tell me that Thomas Jefferson said that it was the only anchor
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by which our government can be held accountable to the
principles of the constitution. It really is the only way
that some disputes can be resolved by turning to people like
you-all.
Some judges, when I came on the bench, they gave me
things they said to jurors, and they said it was the best way
you could serve your country. I'm not sure that's true. My
father was a Vietnam Veteran in the Marine Corps, so I know
there are other more important ways, but it really is an
important thing to do and to be a part of. So I hope that you
will find it meaningful and rewarding and I appreciate you-all
being here.
I'll set an even lower standard, I'd like you to at
the end of the day say that was worthwhile, I enjoyed it, but
I hope you'll at least say it wasn't as bad as I thought it
would be. And I'm going to do my very best to try to make
this as easy as it can be on all of you.
We're going to start with asking you-all a bunch of
questions. This is what we call voir dire or what I would
normally say as voir dire, but then people make fun of me for
saying it that way, but it means to speak the truth, which is
what we're going to ask each of you to do over the next couple
of hours.
For most of the trial, other people will be talking
to you. It might be the lawyers, it might be witnesses, it
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might be me from time to time, but whoever serves on our jury
will be primarily listening until the very end of the case.
This is the time in the process when you-all get to
speak, when you-all get to tell us a little bit about each of
you. These questions are intended to determine if you know
something about this case or the subject matter of this case,
to determine if you've had some life experience that might
touch on this case in some way, that might impact your ability
to be fair and impartial, because that is really the goal, to
make sure that we get a fair and impartial group of jurors who
can decide this case based upon the law and the facts and put
aside any prejudice or favoritism for either party.
The parties, both the government and the defendant,
have a right to be a part of this process and help select the
jury and these questions allow them to do that, so again, we
want to make this fair and impartial to all of you.
Here is how it's going to go. In a moment, I'm going
to ask Ms. Kelley to swear you-all in. It means you're going
to take an oath to tell the truth in the questions that we ask
you.
Then when she's done, I'm going to ask you some
questions about your ability to serve as a jury, general
questions, like where you live, things like that. And I'm
going to give you-all a chance to respond if anybody has
something to say about that.
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Next, we will go down the row and everybody will have
a chance to speak.
Mr. Salaam.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: So you are our Juror Number 1, so you
have volunteered to go first.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: Do you-all have a piece of paper with a
list of questions?
PROSPECTIVE JURORS: Yes.
THE COURT: So in that part of the process,
Mr. Salaam, you'll go first. You'll just stand up, you'll
have a microphone and you'll answer the questions on that
piece of paper. I might ask you some follow-up, they might
ask you some follow-up, but set a good example so everybody
else knows what to do.
Okay?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. After we've done that
process, then the parties get a chance to go over and ask you
some additional questions. There will be some follow-up from
time to time, but I have reviewed all of these questions to
make sure that they're all appropriate.
Let me say this, too, at the outset, if I or any of
the parties ask you a question that embarrasses you in any
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way, it's not meant to. If there's something that you don't
want to talk about in front of everybody else, just tell me,
just say I'd rather answer this question later or more
privately or can I tell you about this later. There will be a
chance, we'll take a break, we'll excuse most of the people,
not everybody, but we'll excuse most of the people, all of
you-all will be excused and you can come back here just you
and tell us about that thing. We're not trying to embarrass
anybody, but we do need to get that information.
Okay?
Don't be shy to use that. One person will do it and
then other people will start doing it, so don't be shy to do
that, because we don't want to embarrass you.
Okay?
After that is done, we will then select from your
group the jury that will try this case.
Okay?
If you're not selected, don't be upset. It just
means that the jurors -- the parties in this case have
determined who they think can give the most fair and impartial
jury.
Okay?
I don't expect anybody to be upset that they didn't
get on the jury, but don't.
Okay. Any questions before we start?
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All right. We will take breaks from time to time and
I'll talk to you about that. We'll go for a little bit and
then we'll take a break and we can stretch our legs or
anything like that. If anybody feels they need to sooner,
just raise your hand and we'll talk about it.
Okay?
So now I'm going to ask Ms. Kelley to swear you-all
in. So in a moment stand up, or right now, stand up and take
this oath. This is an oath to answer our questions
truthfully.
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Can you raise your right hand.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors were sworn.)
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Thank you.
THE COURT: All right. Don't sit down. If you took
the oath and you said I do or you swore to the oath, then you
can sit down. If you didn't, keep standing up.
Okay?
All right. Everybody has sat down so that means
everybody has sworn to tell the truth in this process.
All right. Now what I'm going to do is I'm going to
give you a very brief description about what this case is
about. What I'm about to tell you is not evidence in any way
in this case. If you are selected to serve on this jury, you
will have to decide this case based upon the evidence you
hear. You will know what that evidence is because it will
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mostly come from this chair right here.
Okay?
But it will be testimony from witnesses, it will be
exhibits, things of that nature. I'm simply going to read
this to you so you have an idea of what this case is about, so
that if you know something about this subject matter, we can
ask you about it or things of that nature, but, again, what
I'm going to read to you is not in any way evidence in this
case.
This is a criminal case. The defendant, Carl Delano
Torjagbo, also known as Karl Lucius Delano, is accused of bank
fraud, wire fraud and money laundering in regard to a
government program known as the Paycheck Protect Program.
The defendant has entered a plea of not guilty and he
is presumed innocent of all of the charges as this trial
begins. Let me go over that last part. He has entered a plea
of not guilty, and all of you must presume him innocent of all
of the charges in this case.
Do you understand that?
Okay. Based upon what you have heard, is there
anyone here who thinks they know anything about this case from
the three sentences I told you? Is there anybody who thinks
they know anything about this case whatsoever?
All right. I see no hands. Okay.
Now I'm going to ask you a series of other questions.
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This case is supposed to take about five days to try.
Okay?
I will do all I can to move it along. I will try not
to waste your time. We will try to present things efficiently
to you, but it is expected to take about five days. I can't
promise you an exact date and time that this will conclude.
Does this fact present a problem to anybody here?
This is the time not when you tell me like I've got
kids with after-school things or things of that nature. This
is where you tell me that you have a surgery later this week
that was planned months ago or several weeks ago you bought
nonrefundable plane tickets for tomorrow or the day after
tomorrow.
Is there anybody who thinks that this five days is
not something that they can work with?
Okay. I see no hands.
All right. At this time I want to go over a number
of different people to determine whether anybody knows anybody
who might be involved in this case.
Is there anybody here who knows the United States
attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, Teddy Hertzberg
or Theodore Hertzberg? Anybody think they know that person?
Okay. I'm now going to ask the Assistant United
States Attorneys who works for Mr. Hertzberg if they will
introduce themselves and the people who are here with them.
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This is the people who will be presenting the case on behalf
of the United States.
Ms. Connors.
MS. CONNORS: Good morning. My name is
Kelly Connors. I'm an Assistant United States Attorney here
in this district. My cocounsel is Nicholas Evert, who is also
an Assistant United States Attorney in this district.
We have two paralegals who will be assisting us
during this trial. We have Kendra Wilson and Alicia Holland.
We also have two case agents who will be assisting us during
this trial and you may see them sitting at counsel table or
otherwise in the courtroom with FBI Special Agent Marcus
Wondergem and we also have IRS CI Agent Holly Phan.
You may also see some additional agents who are at
the back of the courtroom who might come in and out helping us
with witnesses. We have FBI Special Agent Scott Baucom as
well as TIGTA Agent Amanda Stanwood.
THE COURT: Okay. Is there anybody here who thinks
they know Ms. Connors or Mr. Evert or anybody else that she
has just introduced?
MS. CONNORS: And, Judge, do you want me to do the
other two that will testify?
THE COURT: Oh, yes, please.
MS. CONNORS: They're not in the courtroom today, but
there are two agents who are expected to testify during this
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trial. We have FBI Special Agent Scott Caruana and Social
Security OIG Agent Tyson Fowler.
THE COURT: Anybody here who thinks they know anybody
by those names?
Okay. Thank you.
Does anyone know any employees or has anyone or their
immediate family worked for the United States Department of
Justice or the United States Attorneys Office for the Northern
District of Georgia?
Okay. I'm now going to ask, Mr. Finlayson, if you
will introduce yourself and your client on behalf of the
defense.
MR. FINLAYSON: Good morning. I'm Leigh Finlayson,
also known as L. Burton Finlayson, my lawyer name. I grew up
in Decatur. This is Mr. Delano. We'll be with you for the
next week.
THE COURT: Thank you. Is there anybody here who
thinks they know either Mr. Finlayson or Mr. Delano?
Okay. Does anyone -- has anyone known anybody who
works for or has anybody here had a family member who has ever
worked for the law office of L. Burton Finlayson?
Okay. Thank you very much. I see no one.
All right. I'm now going to read you a list of names
of people who might appear as witnesses in this case. And I
want to know if any of you might know these people or think
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you might know these people.
I'd ask counsel to listen to make sure that I'm not
missing anybody from the list.
Rosemarie Drake, Salvatore Hazel,
Adrienne Richardson, Monica Sweeten, Matt Bearden,
Kelli Carpenter, James H. Davis, Lee Horner, Kobina Oppong,
Dr. Solomon Owusu or Tom Thurmond.
Anybody think they know people by that name?
Counsel, have I left anybody out?
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. Is there anyone here who has a
special disability or a problem that would make serving as a
member of this jury difficult or impossible?
So this is where like if you can't really hear or you
don't understand English well enough to follow what I've said
to you so far.
Anybody who has a problem like that?
All right. How about anybody who has childcare or
elderly -- or cares for an elderly person or someone with a
physical or mental disability that is so difficult or
burdensome that it makes being here difficult?
A lot of -- and I say this mostly about children, a
lot of people have children and you've got to balance things
to do with looking after your kids. I'm looking for something
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more than that that would impose a personal burden that would
make it really hard to be here.
All right. I see no one. This is an easy-peasy jury
panel so far. All right.
Okay. Has anybody here been disqualified from
serving on a jury before? So not like not were you not
picked, but did you ever come down for something like this and
you were told, no, no, you can't serve on this jury for some
reason or another?
All right. Is there anyone who has religious or
other types of beliefs that discourages or prevents jury
service?
Okay. I see one juror.
Sir, would you stand up and tell us your name.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Juror Number 4, Wayne Kerr.
THE COURT: Talk to me.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I started with Jehovah's
Witnesses, and I don't believe in judging.
THE COURT: And so serving on a jury is discouraged
or precluded by your religious beliefs?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't understand that.
THE COURT: Tell me, what it is about Jehovah’s
Witnesses that would prevent you from serving on this jury.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe that Jehovah is a
judge, so I don't --
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THE COURT: Say that again. I'm sorry .
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My belief is that Jehovist,
himself, is a judge.
THE COURT: And that no one else can serve as a judge
in a civil context? It's not a religious context, you're not
passing on somebody's worth or something like that, it's
simply whether or not somebody committed a crime by the
standard of proof required.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: With my belief, yes, it matters
that you are the judge, definitely. I'm not comfortable in
the sense of it, even the discourse of the case or anything
like that. It's just my belief.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate
it.
Anyone else have anything like that that they would
like to talk about?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. Juror Number 3. My name
is Gang lee. I am a professor of criminal justice and I have
contract teaching cyber crime, and so it's a little bit --
right, I don't -- I don't know about particular cases, but I
generally study about them. Yeah, yeah.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Online for all of that online for
fraud and identity theft issues.
THE COURT: Okay. They are going to have a lot of
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questions for you, I'm sure, about that.
But is there something about your religious or moral
beliefs that prevent you from serving?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I just mention about that.
THE COURT: That's great. And I appreciate you
telling me that. And I suspect they're going to have a load
of questions for you on that.
All right. Anyone else?
Okay. I'm going to go over this concept several
times. In this case, the jury will be asked to render a
verdict solely on the evidence presented and in the context of
the law as I provide it to you.
I will give you the instructions on the law and then
you will make a decision based upon the facts.
Is there anyone here who thinks they will not be able
to follow my instructions?
Is there anyone who thinks that they have beliefs or
notions or ideas about the law that they will not be able to
put aside in following my instructions? Anybody?
It's a important context. A lot of you might have
feelings about what you think the law should be or maybe even
think you know what the law is. But in this process, I will
tell you what the law is that you have to apply.
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Is there anybody who thinks -- I'm asking this
again -- who thinks they will have difficulty applying the law
as I provide it?
Okay. Thank you.
And here's a really easy question. In order to serve
on the jury, you have to be a United States citizen and you
have to be 18 years old and you have to live in the Northern
District of Georgia, which is Cherokee, Clayton, Cobb, DeKalb,
Douglas, Fulton, Gwinnett, Henry, Newton and Rockdale
counties.
Is there anybody who doesn't meet those
qualifications?
Is there anybody here who is not a U.s. citizen, who
is not 18 years old or who does not live in one of those
counties?
Okay. Seems like the jury group did the right thing
in getting the right people here.
Mr. Salaam, are you ready?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yep.
THE COURT: All right. Now is going to be a chance
for everybody to tell us a little bit about yourself. So
we're going to start with him and we're going to work down the
aisle. Wait until you get the microphone and then stand up
and tell us your name and your juror number as we go through
and then just go through the list of questions.
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. Good morning. I'm Terrell
Salaam, Juror Number 1. I live in Gwinnett County. This time
around, I've been living there for six years. I'm a project
manager for Sunbelt Rentals.
THE COURT: I'm sorry, for who?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sunbelt Rentals.
Yes, I'm married. My wife works for Atlanta Public
Schools. I have five kids. Two are adults, one works for
AT&T and the other one is doing -- working through a temp
message agency right now and going to school.
I've never served on a trial, jury trial. I don't
have any close relatives or friends who have been arrested or
accused of committing a crime. I don't have anybody that's
been a victim of a crime, close relative or a friend.
Most TV shows -- I don't watch a lot of TV, mostly TV
I watch is going to be sports or cartoons and stuff with my
kids. And if I listen to the radio, it's typically going to
be sports talk.
THE COURT: What teams?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan and
a New York Knicks fan and a New York Yankees fan.
THE COURT: What?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. I'm originally from New
Jersey. I'm not from Georgia.
THE COURT: That Yankees game on Saturday, that
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Braves game on Saturday, that was hard, wasn't it? Did you
watch it?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I missed it. I was actually out
of town, so I just got back yesterday, so I didn't catch the
game.
THE COURT: Yes. I think it might have broke the
Braves. At any rate, okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No problem.
THE COURT: Knicks, too?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Born and raised a Knicks fan.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is
Laura Deweese, Juror Number 2. I live in Henry County and
I've been there about 35 years. I am an assistant practice
administrator for DentFirst Dental care.
I am not married. I do have one 16-year-old
daughter. I have never served on a jury trial. I do -- I do
not have any close relatives or friends that have been
arrested or accused of a crime. I do not have a close
relative or friend that's ever been a victim of a crime.
I like to watch college football, medical dramas, and
some Sci-fi fantasy shows. And I really don't listen to the
radio, I usually just play my Apple playlist when I'm in the
car or listen to audio books.
THE COURT: What sci-fi shows?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: What sci-fi. I like Star Trek.
THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And other stuff.
THE COURT: That's all right. Okay. All right.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm Juror Number 3. My name is
Gang Lee. Yeah, I'm living in Cobb County. I'm a professor
in college. And I'm married. My wife is a stay-at-home
housewife. I have two children. And one is a manager of a
company. Another one is an educational program developer.
I haven't been serving the criminal trial as a jury.
Okay. And none -- yeah, I don't have any close relative or
friend committing crime. I don't have any relative or friend
that's been a victim of a crime, as I know.
TV show I regularly watch, there's not much I watch
on the TV, but sometime watching the Wheel of Fortune. Radio
station, I regularly listen to the NPR.
THE COURT: Okay. Let me ask you this. You said
before that you teach criminal justice, including on cyber
crimes --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: -- and identity stuff.
It is important that if you are selected in this case
that you be able to put aside your understanding of what the
law is and you follow the instructions on the law that I give
you, even if they are in conflict with what you believe the
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law to be.
Can you do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am not sure, right, that -- I
generally have -- understanding about some kind of cyber crime
case by case, so I cannot make any statement about that. I
just simply knowing that I have kind of a general knowledge on
the issue on the cyber crimes, especially, some that the law
lay, too, that online fraud or identity theft.
THE COURT: So you don't know anything about this
case so far, right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
THE COURT: I have not told you anything about
identity theft. Do you understand that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I understand that.
THE COURT: Okay. So my question to you is very
simple. If I tell you the law to apply, can you apply the law
as I give it to you rather than what you think the law to be?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I
can do that.
THE COURT: Okay. You can, you can follow my
instructions on the law?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Good. Thank you very
much, I appreciate it. They're going to have questions more
for you, but that's what I wanted to ask you now.
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And by the way, counsel, I think I told you before,
if you want to do follow-up at this point, moderate follow-up
at this point, you can with any of the jurors on the topics
that we're touching on, but you'll have plenty of time to go
into it later.
Okay?
All right. Sir, thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All right. My name is Wayne
Kerr, Juror Number 4. I live in Clayton County. I work at
Home Depot, 26 years. Not married. I do have two sons, one
here in Atlanta and one in Jamaica.
I've never served on a jury before. I don't have any
relative or anything arrested or accused of committing a
crime. I don't know any relative of mine commit a crime or
victim.
TV shows that I watch is sports most of the time and
the name is Stephen A. Smith, that guy that talks all the
time. I don't listen to radio most of the time, but I mostly
listen to my reggae music 24/7.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is
Je'Tavia Parks. I'm Juror Number 5. I stay in Clayton County
for probably like 25 years. I am a warehouse associate for
Target. Not married, don't have any kids.
Never served on a trial jury. Close relative, if you
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could say like a first cousin close relative, then yes, but I
don't know the details of that situation.
I don't know if they were a victim, but I would say
no. I don't know.
TV shows, if I watch TV, it's probably like a game
show or, I mean, MLB is on right now, so I watch the Braves.
Radio stations, if I listen to the radio, then it will
probably be like R&B or gospel.
THE COURT: Did you say you had a cousin who was
accused of a crime?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: How long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, I would say probably right
before COVID maybe or around that time.
THE COURT: And how close were you with the cousin at
the time?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We grew up together, so we were
kind of close, but when we grew up, we became kind of distant,
so...
THE COURT: Was there anything about that process
that your cousin went through or what you knew about it that
would impact your ability to be fair to both sides in this
case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That would impact it, no,
because --
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THE COURT: Like you thought -- did you think your
cousin was treated unfairly?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't -- I would say no. I
don't know. I feel like he put himself in the situation and
they were kind of -- kind of private about it, so I didn't
know what happened, what he did, what he didn't do. But just
knowing like him, it was just like, I don't know, like a shrug
of the shoulder, okay, I don't know.
THE COURT: All right.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
THE COURT: But that won't impact your ability to be
fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: And if you don't watch -- do you watch
streaming shows?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not really.
THE COURT: Okay. You're just not a TV person?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. If it's on and somebody's
watching it, I'll watch it. Like right now my sister has me
watching Big Brother. My mom, she watch crime shows, so if
she's watching it, then I'm watching it, but to just sit down
and turn on the TV, no.
THE COURT: How about that show that was on from the
last couple of weeks?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Love Island?
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THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I watched it.
THE COURT: I got her to admit it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I watched that one.
THE COURT: All right. It made me want to break my
TV. I would walk through and my kids would be watching that
show, so at any rate. Okay. Thank you.
Yes, ma'am?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Juanneeka Smith. I
live in Clayton County. What do I do for a living, I'm a
nutrition worker. I never been married. I don't have any
kids.
I never served on a jury. I have a close friend, no,
commit a crime, no. I have close related friends have been a
victim of a crime, no.
What TV show do I watch, I regularly watch, my
favorite TV show is Stranger Things. And radio station, I
like listen to my playlist on my music.
THE COURT: Is that next Stranger Things coming out
soon?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
THE COURT: Yes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They're not going to be kids
anymore, it's going to be like the '90s.
THE COURT: Yes, ma'am.
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. Patricia King is my name.
I've been -- lived in Fulton County for 52 years. I train
dogs for a living. I am married to an architect. I have two
kids. They are not adults.
I have never served on a jury. No -- no to Number 7.
I'd like to answer Number 8 in private.
TV shows, I watch the news. I'm sorry. News, like
CNN and ABC news. And radio stations, I listen to XM radio
and just music.
THE COURT: Dog training, like regular dog training
for my dog or for --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Pet behavior modification. I
train service dogs.
THE COURT: Okay. How long have you been doing that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 25 years.
THE COURT: Wow, okay. Very good. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thanks.
THE COURT: I have a dog but she may be --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Need some help?
THE COURT: Yeah.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can help her.
THE COURT: Yes, she's fine. I don't know.
MR. FINLAYSON: Some say it's the owner, not the dog.
THE COURT: It could be. She and I are pretty tight
and I might have caused a lot of her issues.
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At any rate, go ahead, please.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is
Sherry Hunt. I live in Cherokee County and I've been there
for 24 years. I am the chief underwriting officer for a
commercial insurance company.
I am married. My husband is also an underwriting
officer for an insurance company. We have two adult children.
One is a teacher in Cherokee County High School, science. My
other daughter stays home.
I've never served on a jury trial. I have no close
relatives or friends that have been arrested or accused of a
crime. I have no close friends or relative that have been a
victim of a crime.
TV shows I watch regularly are Grey's Anatomy and any
medical drama. I also like The Crown, I'm into that right
now. And I don't really listen to the radio.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm Juror Number 9. My name is
Tommy Hughes. I live in Fulton County. I'm a CFO for a -- a
group -- oh, I don't know, I'm a CFO -- I just forgot what I
was talking about -- but I -- a real estate company.
My wife is -- I am married. My wife is in interior
designer. I have two children, one going to college next year
and a 12-year-old daughter.
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I've never served on a jury. And unfortunately, I
have a whole side of my family that have been in trouble. I
don't think I've ever had a close relative or friend that's
been a victim of a crime. I always watch sports, sports on TV
is everything. And radio stations, I listen to all the
country music and classic rock.
THE COURT: What teams?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: What teams?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm an Oklahoma boy, so Oklahoma
City is my team and my son is going to Georgia, so it's
killing me.
THE COURT: I like him already.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm wearing red, that's all I can
say.
THE COURT: Well, congratulations. That's great for
him. It's hard to do. I've done that a couple of times. You
walk in a college, you rip your heart out and you leave that
on a dorm bed and then you leave.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
THE COURT: That's how it feels to me.
You said you had some family, a side of your family
that has always been in trouble.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's my older sister and her kids
and grandkids.
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THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They're in Oklahoma.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I've been gone for 30 years, so I
don't have anything to do with them.
THE COURT: Anything about that that will impact your
ability to be fair in this case to either side?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I mean.
THE COURT: You know a lot of people have that. But
the important thing is knowing that you can recognize that
that's not this case. And that there is nothing that you've
been through that would make you favor or disfavor either
side.
Any concerns you might have about that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.
Mr. Vaughan.
THE WITNESS: Hello. My name is Gregory Vaughan,
Juror Number 10. I live in DeKalb County, 24 years. I work
at a Walgreens while I'm going through college.
I'm not married, no kids.
Never been on a jury. No non-traffic related
incidents. No victims of a crime, anybody that I know,
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actually.
TV shows, what do I watch? Depends on if I'm doing
something with the TV on in the room or if I'm actually paying
attention to it. You know, like I either listen to the
Discovery Channel or something or I'll be watching an
interview or something. And radio stations, just music.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am Juror Number 11. My name is
Adetomiwa Adeyeye. I have been in the United States for about
14 years. And I stay in Gwinnett County. I do IT support for
Henry County schools.
I am not married. I do not have any kids. Have I
been on a jury before, yes, it was a traffic incident.
Well, a friend of mine has been in a case before, but
I would rather speak about that privately.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And no close relative of mine has
not been a victim of a crime. And for TV shows, I watch
Supernatural, Stranger Things and just, you know, sci-fi
stuff. And I mostly listen to podcasts, you know, Diary of a
CEO, just regular stuff.
THE COURT: Okay. To follow up on your serving on a
jury. That was a civil case, did you say, it was a traffic
offense, like an accident?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, it was.
THE COURT: Two people, two private people that were
in an accident?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
THE COURT: And did the jury that you have served on,
did they reach a verdict? Don't tell me what it was, but did
you-all reach a conclusion?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, we did.
THE COURT: Were you the foreperson of that jury?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was not.
THE COURT: Okay. Now, if that was a civil case,
there's a burden of proof in that case. Do you understand
what I'm talking about?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir, I do.
THE COURT: Okay. I'm going to tell you that this
being a criminal case has a higher burden of proof called
beyond a reasonable doubt.
Okay?
Do you think you can follow that instruction and
apply the burden of proof that I give you, not leaning on your
prior experience, which was a civil case?
Do you think you can do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I can. Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. What's your favorite
podcast?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Diary of a CEO.
THE COURT: All right. Very good. I'm always
looking for a new one. When I walk that dog, I need something
to calm me. Go ahead, please.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello. My name is Jamie Daring.
I reside in Cobb County. I am a senior intel and acquisition
inclusion and diversity manager for a tech company.
I am married. I have two children, one is an adult,
he's in school, the other is in elementary school.
I've never served on a jury trial. And Number 7 is
yes. I would love to provide the answers in private.
Number 8 is also a yes, again, I would provide the additional
details in private.
The TV shows that I regularly watch is Beyond the
Gates, Sisters, BMF, The Shy. And the radio station that I
listen to the most is The Heat on Sirius.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. I'm Kayla Doris. I live in
Gwinnett County for like ten years. I'm unemployed. I'm a
full-time college student in Albany -- in Albany, Georgia, and
I go to Albany State University. My major is in -- I'm in
forensic science.
I'm not married. I do not have any children. I have
never served on a trial jury. And I stutter, by the way, so
if I pause, I might stutter, I have a speech problem, but...
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I don't have any close relative or friend who has
been arrested or accused of committing a crime. I have never
been a victim of a crime.
And I don't really watch TV like that and I don't
listen to the radio. I just plug up my phone.
THE COURT: Okay. You're studying forensic sciences?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Does that mean you want to go into law
enforcement in some way?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Absolutely.
THE COURT: Okay. So it's important that as you go
through this process that you keep in mind that regardless of
what you might be learning, that I will give you the
instructions to apply in this case.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
THE COURT: Do you think you can do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Absolutely.
THE COURT: There might be some day when you're more
engaged and you understand a little bit more about the
process. But for now, I just want to make sure that you
understand that you've got to put aside what you might be
learning in an area that seems like it could touch on criminal
justice And apply the law as I give it to you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you very much. I
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appreciate you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Yolanda
Ogedengbe. I live in Cobb County my whole life. I'm a
registered nurse. I just graduated so I don't start working
until next Monday.
I'm not married. I have no children. I've never
served on a trial jury. For 7, no, I don't have any friends
or relative that's been arrested. And I've never had a friend
or relative be a victim of a crime.
I don't really watch TV, maybe reality TV in the
background or something, and I don't really listen to the
radio either.
THE COURT: Where did you go to nursing school?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Georgia State.
THE COURT: All right. And are you going to be in a
specialty at Piedmont?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Neuro.
THE COURT: Neuro, really. Oh wow, that's exciting.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE COURT: Oh, well, good luck. I appreciate you
spending your one week off with us.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE COURT: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. My name is Cynthia Hines. I
live in Cobb County for about a year. Previous to that, I was
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in Fulton County about 24 years. I am a retired operational
risk analyst for a bank.
I am married. My husband is a retired physician.
Two children, they're engineers. I did serve on a civil case
a long time ago when I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina.
No close relatives arrested or victims.
TV, I watch the Bear lately, sports because I live in
a home with boys and men, and I don't really listen to the
radio, I listen to audio books.
THE COURT: When you were on the jury, was that a
criminal case or a civil case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think it was civil.
THE COURT: Okay. Were you the foreperson on the
jury?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Did the jury reach a verdict?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Can you put aside your experience there
and follow the instructions that would come out in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm Ryan Smith, Juror Number 16.
I live in Cobb County, been here about six years. Just got
done playing football in college, so I don't -- I'm not doing
anything right now.
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Not married. Don't have any kids. Never served on a
trial jury. For Number 7 and Number 8, that's a no.
For Number 9, I watch Suits, some dating shows on
Netflix and some sports. And I don't listen to the radio.
And I think you might have touched on this earlier,
but I forgot to mention both of my parents were federal
agents, so I don't know if that's any conflict.
THE COURT: Okay. Your parents were federal agents
with who or with what agency?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My mom was in the FBI for just
about most of my life until we moved back here to Georgia,
like -- it was like maybe 2015 when we came back. And then my
dad is in the DEA and he's retiring this year.
THE COURT: Where does your father live, where do
your parents live?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Where do they live?
THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So they started out in South
Carolina, then went to Miami, had -- came to Atlanta, that's
when I was born, went to Charlotte and then came back to
Atlanta.
THE COURT: And they live in Atlanta now?
THE WITNESS: Yeah.
THE COURT: Is he with the DEA in Atlanta?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe so.
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THE COURT: In this building?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I -- I have no clue. I think it
might be. I have no clue.
THE COURT: All right. Well, they might have
additional questions for you.
Let me ask you this, so your parents, your mom, how
long ago did she leave the FBI?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: How long ago did she leave?
THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I want to say maybe like ten
years ago.
THE COURT: Okay. So they work with the
United States, right?
THE WITNESS: Um-hmm.
THE COURT: In those positions, your mom and your dad
both would have worked with federal prosecutors, I would
assume.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
THE COURT: Do you think you can put that aside and
be fair to both sides in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I can.
THE COURT: Do you think the fact that your dad might
currently work with federal prosecutors would make you favor
the prosecutors in this case, the Assistant United States
Attorney?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Potentially, but...
THE COURT: Okay. Do you think you could put that
aside if you know it might?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I can put that aside.
THE COURT: I'm going to let them follow up on some
questions like that.
Is that a Duke shirt?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I went to Duke.
THE COURT: Is that where you played football?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: I am married to a lifelong Tar Heel.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They got the bell back this year,
though.
THE COURT: Yes, they did. They did. And I have
some affinity to Wake Forest as well.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh.
THE COURT: So.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's tough.
MR. FINLAYSON: Cause?
THE COURT: What's that?
MR. FINLAYSON: Cause?
THE COURT: No. I have a lot of feelings for Duke,
but it's mostly basketball related.
What are you going to do now? You graduated this
year?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I graduated in 2024, but I had
a fifth year because of COVID, so I ended up playing another
year.
And right now, I'm just really trying to figure out
like if I want to move to New York with the rest of like the
alumni or go to Miami or go out west and basically just start
fresh and where I don't know anybody, so...
THE COURT: Well, that's good for you. Y'all had a
good team a couple of those years you were there.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm. Oh, yeah. They're
probably going to have a pretty good team this year, too.
THE COURT: Are they? Okay. Well, congratulations.
I appreciate it. Thank you.
They're going to ask you some more questions about
your parents.
And, by the way, I appreciate you circling back on
that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: All right. Go ahead, please.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Tamela
Dodson. I am Juror Number 17. And I live Henry County, been
there for 22 years. I'm an HR executive for Monster Energy
Company.
And I am married. My husband owns his own logistics
business delivering car parts. I do have three adult
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children, three sons.
I've never served on a trial jury. I do want to
answer Questions 7 and 8 in private.
And Question 9, I love watching Fatal Attraction,
2020, Married to Real Estate and Sirius XM is the radio
stations that I listen to.
THE COURT: Tell me what your adult sons do.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, so physical therapy for the
VA, master barber and then also warehouse.
THE COURT: And is Monster Energy, is that the drink
company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is.
THE COURT: Are they based here in Georgia?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, actually based in Corona,
California, so I'm out there every other week.
THE COURT: Got it. Okay. Thank you very much. I
appreciate it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello. My name is Shavara
London, I am Juror Number 18. I live in Fulton County. I've
lived there since 2008. I am a teacher in Clayton County.
I am married. I have one daughter who is a senior
this year. I've never served on a trial jury. Question
Number 7, I would like to answer in private. Question Number
8 is no, I don't have a relative or a friend that's been the
victim of a crime.
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Number 9, I mainly watch sports shows. I'm from
Louisiana, so I'm an LSU fan. And radio stations, I mainly
listen to my phone in the car.
THE COURT: What grade do you teach?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I teach fifth grade. I'm a math
coach.
THE COURT: Well, I wish you luck with a senior.
That's a hard time.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is.
THE COURT: Good luck with that. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello. My name is Lise Dixon and
I'm Juror Number 19. I have lived in Cobb County for 21
years. I'm a retired nurse, oncology.
THE COURT: Congratulations.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
I am married. My husband is the owner and COO of a
self-storage development and management company. No kids.
Never been on a jury. 7 and 8 are no.
I watch Science Channel, Air Disasters, crime shows,
HGTV and the radio when I'm in the car is '70s, '80s, '90s,
Beetles, whatever.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. Juror Number 20,
Jose Mendoza. And I live in Cobb County, originally from
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Miami, Florida, but I've been here since '96. Oh, sorry. Do
you want me to repeat everything again?
THE COURT: No.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, gotcha. I am married, my
wife, she's a homemaker right now. We do have two boys, both
in college, one at UGA, one at KSU.
I've never served on a jury trial before. And
Number 7 is no. Number 8, I don't know if this counts, my
wife had her purse stolen and was a victim of identity theft,
and we had to deal with that, that was very painful.
Number 8 -- what -- yeah, that was Number 8.
TV shows, I like gangster shows, like MobLand. I
also watch a lot of sports, go Dolphins, Hurricanes, Heat.
And I like the Panthers, too, just won, so...
Music just, you know, regular, no radio stations,
just music.
THE COURT: Tell me what you do. It says director of
security compliance.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that
one. Yes, sir, senior director for a cyber security firm. We
do data protection, so backup systems and try to keep our
customers from being hacked or victims of cyber security.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate
it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Dennis Hunter. I've
stayed in Clayton County. I mix concrete for a living.
I'm single, no kids.
I served on a jury trial before. And 7 and 8, I'd
like to answer that later.
I like crimes shows and drama and FM Sirius.
THE COURT: Did you tell me you have served on a jury
before?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: How long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, about four years ago.
THE COURT: Was it a civil case or a criminal case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Criminal.
THE COURT: Okay. And were you the foreperson?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Pardon me?
THE COURT: Were you the foreperson of the jury?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: And did your jury render a verdict? Did
you reach a verdict?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning, I'm Artanjey Clark.
I am Juror Number 22. I live in Fulton County. I'm single.
I'm a dialysis secretary.
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I've never served on a jury. I have two grown
children. Number 7 I would like to definitely answer in
private. I've never had -- I've never known anybody that's a
victim of a crime.
I watch westerns -- westerns, what's happening? Did
it turn off? I watch westerns. I love westerns. And I like
to listen at a variety of radio stations.
THE COURT: Okay. Can you tell me what your grown
kids do for a living?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My daughter, she works in a
warehouse. And I have a son.
THE COURT: What does he do?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's currently incarcerated.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: All right. Yes, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. I'm Dustin Luckie. I have
been in Cobb County for the past 15 years. I've worked in the
wine and spirits business for the past 20, but now an
independent business owner. I have three kids. I am married.
My wife is an HR director for a transportation company.
Never served on a jury before, never had been
arrested or been accused of committing a crime. Nobody's been
the victim a crime.
TV shows, usually sports or, you know, CNN or some
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kind of new talk radio. But, yeah, that's it.
THE COURT: What kind of business do you own?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Event rental and bounce houses,
water slides, all of that.
THE COURT: That you like take and set up at people's
houses.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have people that do that, but
yeah.
THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I just purchased a company last
year so, yeah, doing that.
THE COURT: I used to be a customer of those.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, come on back.
THE COURT: Yes. No, no.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Melissa
Okorie and I live in DeKalb County for 55 years.
I am married. And my spouse works at Publix, he is a
baker. I do not have any children.
I have never served on a trial jury. I do not have a
close friend or relative that has ever been accused of
committing a crime. I have had a close relative, friend, that
has been a victim of a crime.
I do not watch any TV shows on the regular, nor do
listen to any radio stations on the regular.
THE COURT: What your friend or relative went
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through, how close were you with the person at that time?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband.
THE COURT: Okay. Is there anything about what he
went through that you think would impact your ability to sit
as a juror in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: There is not.
THE COURT: Any belief that it might make you favor
one side of this case or the other?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
THE COURT: We are big fans in my chambers of your
husband's business.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Go Publix. It's the best ever.
THE COURT: A couple of years ago we had some fancy
law clerks where we started ordering cakes from far away
sometimes. There was one cake called a Milk cake that I've
liked. But other than that, we've always gone back to Publix,
so tell your husband I said thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I certainly will. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Antonio
Ellison and I go by Tony. I live in Gwinnett County, and I've
been there for the past four years now. For a living I'm a
athletic director and a seventh grade math teacher at a
charter school next to Oglethorpe University.
I'm not married. I do have an 11-year-old daughter.
I've never served on a jury trial. I have a relative who I
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don't know the details of the situation but spent 15 years in
prison and he was released in 2017. I do have a -- well, my
daughter's mom had a situation at the University of Georgia in
1999. I don't want to reveal the details of that, but I'll do
it in private.
TV shows, I regularly watch stuff on Netflix and
Hulu. Like on Netflix, All American, and on Hulu, Power,
First Power, Law & Order, shows like that. And then radio
stations 97.5 and 107.5, you know, Steve Harvey and 103 and
stuff like that so...
THE COURT: The relative who was in prison, anything
about that that you think would impact your ability to be
fair?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
THE COURT: Do you have any notion about whether that
person was treated fairly or not?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He was.
THE COURT: Okay. Okay. Thank you, sir, I
appreciate it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. My name is John Harrison.
I've lived in Fulton County for 11 years. I do front-end
development for a tax and accounting department of Thompson
Rueters. I am married. My wife is an orthodontist and we
have an eight-year-old daughter.
I have never served on a trial jury. 7 and 8 are no.
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And TV shoes, I mostly just watch sports and the
British panel shows and things like that.
THE COURT: Tell me exactly what you do for
Thompson Reuters.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I work with attorneys and
accountants to develop tools that we sell to subscribers for
basically tax analysis.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi, I'm April Carlock, I'm
Number 27. I live in Fulton County. I've been there about
ten years. I have mostly been a stay-at-home mom. About 20
years ago, I was a real estate agent, a lifetime ago. I have
four kids. I am married.
I've never served on a jury. 7 and 8 are no.
I like to stream shows like Ted Lasso is one of my
favorites, love college sports, I do like true crime and I
don't listen to the radio, I'm more like a reveal podcasts and
audio books.
THE COURT: What does your husband do for a living?
THE WITNESS: Oh, I'm sorry. He's a real estate
developer.
THE COURT: And your kids, how old are they?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have two in college and two in
high school.
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THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi, number 28. My name is Eliese
Fischer. I've lived in south Fulton for about nine years. I
do program and project management for a manufacturer.
I am not married. I don't have kids. I have never
served on a jury trial. Yes, I have both family and friends
that have been arrested or accused of committing a crime. And
yes, I have a close relative or friend, it was my aunt. And
she met a fraudster at church, committed a whole bunch of bank
fraud. It took me and her son four years to figure all of
that out. She died last December. I am still very angry
about all of it.
What TV shows do I watch regularly, I mostly watch
sitcoms, I do watch BBC a lot, and for radio, listen to NPR.
THE COURT: Okay. I'm going to ask you some
questions about your feelings about that friend of yours
privately, if that's okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello. I'm Juror Number 29,
Kathleen Oleary, Henry County, I've lived there for about 24
years. Currently I'm at home for this last year, but before
that, I was home healthcare and a real estate agent for nearly
20 years. I am married. My husband is a residential and
commercial plumber. I do have three kids, two of which are
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adults. One is a residential commercial plumber, the other
one is a real estate agent.
I've never served on a jury before. And
unfortunately, yes to Number 7, both close friend and
relative, and 8 as well.
And 7 or Number 9 I regularly watch Court TV, the
Chicago series, Chicago Med, PD, et cetera, and the radio
station I listen to is 97.9.
THE COURT: The experiences that your family and
friends had, either being accused of crimes or being victims,
anything about that that would affect your ability to be fair
in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir, I don't believe so.
THE COURT: I didn't hear any particular angst over
any of it in your voice.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No what?
THE COURT: Any angst or any worry.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Oh, no.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate
it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All right. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. I'm Alan Rosselot, Juror
Number 30. I live in DeKalb County, I've lived there 55
years, maybe, technically, I lived in Clark County for three
of those. I am an attorney. I'm in-house with Delta
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Airlines. I am married. My wife's -- my wife is happily
retired, former social worker and preschool administrator. We
have two adult children, one who just graduated from the
University of Richmond, the other is pursuing a master's
degree in London.
I have never served on a jury. Question Number 7, no
close relative or friend that's ever been arrested or accused
of committing a crime. Number 8, my wife was a victim of a
crime before we met. I'd prefer to discuss that further, if
necessary, later.
TV shows, I guess I'm in the cut-the-cord world,
mostly Ted Lasso, Drinking, those kinds of things. I guess I
fall into the Apple TV world and sports, Atlanta United
specifically. Radio stations, kind of spin the dial in my car
in my commute, WABE, WNNX and a little bit of country garden
for the fun of it.
THE COURT: Thank you. What kind of work do you do
for Delta legal?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I head up our securities and
corporate governance practice, so transactional.
THE COURT: Okay. Did your daughter like Richmond?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Son, actually.
THE COURT: Your son?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Loved Richmond. Great
town, great experience there, yeah.
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THE COURT: I have a brother who went to school
there. He loved it. It's been a long, long time ago, but he
loved it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had a sister-in-law and
brother-in-law that went there as well.
THE COURT: Very good. Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is
Kamal Mourad, I come from France. And I've been here for 35
years maybe. One daughter. Never been in a jury, trial jury,
that's always been into something.
THE COURT: Let me ask you, how old is your daughter?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 21.
THE COURT: And what does she do for a living?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She goes to Georgia Tech.
THE COURT: Where? Georgia Tech?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Georgia Tech. She's studying
cyber crime.
THE WITNESS: Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Wesley White. I live
in Clayton County. I've been living there probably like 23
years. I'm a ninth grade teacher, DFSA coordinator, head
baseball coach. I'm not married. I have one son.
Never served on a jury. I have three first cousins
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right now waiting on a murder trial in Fulton County.
Number 8, no.
Number 9, I don't really watch TV. I watch film,
because I coach, so pretty much watching film every day.
Radio station, I really don't listen to radio stations like
that, I just play whatever is on my phone, and that's it.
THE COURT: Okay. The situation you said with
cousins.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, my three first cousins.
THE COURT: Do you think them going through that will
impact your ability to be fair to both sides in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Right is right, wrong is
wrong.
THE COURT: And you think you can put that aside and
decide this case on the facts and the law?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Most definitely.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello. I'm Juror Number 33. My
name is Rachael Wadley. I live in Gwinnett County, I've lived
there for the majority of my life. I am a registered nurse.
I'm not married. I do not have children.
I've never nerved on a trial jury. I do have a close
relative that's been arrested and accused of committing a
crime. The answer to Number 8 is no.
I don't really watch TV. And radio stations, I
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listen to mainly mainstream music, 98.5, 99.7.
THE COURT: All right. Can you tell me what kind of
nurse you are?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: ICU.
THE COURT: ICU, okay. Anything about what happened
with your relative that was accused of a crime that would
affect your ability to be fair here?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
THE COURT: Do you think you can put all of that
aside and decide this case based on the law I give to you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Juror Number 34. My name is
Bobbie Haigler. I live in Gwinnett County for 17 years. I'm
not married. I have four children, three are adults. One
just graduated from college, she works at Nike. The other is
working at a warehouse, the other is working at QT.
I've never served on a jury trial before. I was
arrested for property damage, however, the charges were
dropped. Number 8 is a no. I do not watch TV, if anything,
the news, and no radio stations.
THE COURT: So the thing you went through with your
arrest, do you think you can put that out of your mind if
you're selected to be on this jury?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
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THE COURT: And do you think you can be fair to both
sides despite what might have happened to you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Ashley.
I live in DeKalb County for about 18 years now. I set up
insurance claims for heavy-duty equipment. I'm not married,
no kids.
Have never served on a trial jury. No to 7 and 8.
9, it depends on the day. And I don't really listen to the
radio.
THE COURT: Like what do you mean it depends on the
day?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Fridays, I like BMF; Thursdays,
The Chi, Blood Violence Done, so, yeah, it depends on the day.
THE COURT: Fair enough. Tell me what kind of
equipment you do adjusting for.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Trucks, trailers, trains, cranes,
anything like construction pretty much, but yeah.
THE COURT: That must be very specialized.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's interesting.
THE COURT: Yes, I'll bet it is.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is interesting.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You're welcome.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Shelby
Dean. I've lived in Fulton County for about six years now.
I'm a pediatric nurse. I'm not married, no kids. 6, 7 and 8
are all no.
TV shows, Love Island, of course, I watch reality TV,
and then radio stations I just listen to Spotify.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Muriel Aiken. I'm
Juror Number 37. I've lived in Cobb County for about eight
years. I am semiretired. I'm a part-time musician. I used
to work in HR. I am married, my husband works for Cobb EMC.
I have one child, she is 20, she is studying at Auburn.
I have served on a trial jury, it was a civil case,
it's been over 20 years ago, we did reach a verdict, and I was
not the foreperson. 7 and 8, yes, I'd like to discuss those
in private.
TV shows, mysteries, sitcoms and college football
when it's that time of year. Radio stations, I listen to XM.
THE COURT: What kind of musician?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I direct, sing and play the
piano.
THE COURT: Very nice. Are you with somebody we
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would know about?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hi. My name is Liz Riley,
Elizabeth Riley. I live in Gwinnett County since 2016. I'm a
pharmacist. My husband works at the CDC. I have one
ten-year-old daughter.
I've never served on a jury. Number 7 is no.
Number 8 would be most recently my mom being a victim of
credit card crime.
TV shows are like The Bear and cooking shows, and
radio would be top 40.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is James
Chatham. I live in Cherokee County for about a little bit
over four years. I'm retired from both the U.S. Army and from
Sprint Telecom. I'm married, my wife is also retired, she was
a network systems engineer, telecom. I don't have any
children of my own.
I have served on a trial jury, a criminal case about
seven years ago, we did reach a verdict, I was not the
foreperson. No to 7 and 8.
TV shows do I watch regularly mostly just local and
national news, I'm more of a movie buff. What radio stations,
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THE COURT: I have a note here, nonprofit
organization. Can you tell me about that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, okay, yeah. Before I
released myself from the workforce, after I retired from
Sprint, I did work for a few years for an international
nonprofit as a business analyst for about three years.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. Appreciate
it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hello. My name is Kate Tracy. I
live in DeKalb County for the past 12 years. I am an
accountant for a commercial subcontractor. I am married. My
husband is a general superintendent for commercial
construction. I have one ten-year-old daughter.
I've never served on a trial jury. Number 7 is a no.
8 is yes, I've had my car stolen.
TV shows, I don't really watch a whole lot of TV, but
I watch the main ones on like HBO and Netflix, so I have
something to talk to my friends about. I don't really listen
to the radio.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. My name is Valerie
Pelzer. I live in DeKalb County. I'm a traffic controller.
Me and my wife, she works for the VA. Yes, I've served on a
jury before. Oh, my kid, let me go back to my kid, he's
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I've served on a jury before for a civil case, we
reached a verdict. Yes, to Number 7 but it was a long time
ago because I'm from New York City. And right now I'm just
doing the right thing, but minding my business number 8 is no.
All the black shows, Law & Order, whatever is on the
radio while I'm in the car.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. What happened years
ago in New York?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It wasn't for me, my brother, he
was arrested.
THE COURT: Okay. Anything about that impact the way
you would be on this jury?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
THE COURT: All right. Thank you very much. You
read my mind.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Good morning. Michael Ryan
Dereus. I go by Ryan, so if y'all say Michael, I won't know
who you're talking about. And what county do I live in,
Gwinnett for nine years. I'm the general manager of a
construction company that specializes in automatic revolving
doors, we also do rolling steel doors, things like that. I am
married, I have two small children ages 4 and 2.
I've never served on a trial before, I'm sorry, a
trial jury before. I do have a nephew that was arrested and
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had some juvenile court history. I can discuss charges in
private, because it is juvenile. Never been a victim or don't
have a close relative or a friend that's been the victim of a
crime.
TV shows, sports, a lot of sports, as much as my wife
will allow me to watch. And then when she's in the room, we
watch The Amazing Race, Survivor, stuff like that. Radio
stations, Big podcast, Armchair Experts is probably my
favorite.
THE COURT: And I don't need to know the topic of
what your nephew went through, but will that impact your
ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. Are you sure about that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My name is Steven Maldonado.
I've lived in Douglas County for 16 years. Work for Amazon.
Married, no, children, no.
Served on a trial jury, no. 7 and 8, no.
TV shows, sports, Game of Thrones, radio station, not
really, just music.
THE COURT: What do you do for Amazon?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Warehouse associate.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. All right.
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This is a good -- do y'all want a break?
PROSPECTIVE JURORS: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. We're going to take a short break.
All right. And while we have this break, I'm going to bring
some of you back in to answer the questions we were going to
talk about privately.
A couple of things to keep in mind.
Okay?
Number one, do not talk with each other about this
case. You don't know anything about this case. I've given
you two sentences about this case. Do not talk about that
topic with each other.
Okay?
The reason for it is you're not supposed to talk
about the case even amongst the jurors until the very end,
when you're in the jury room and you're deliberating. Until
then, you're in listening mode. And as soon as you start
talking to somebody, they start responding to you and you
start reaching judgments and you don't know anything about
this case.
All right?
So talk about everything else. I think we have four
different nurses on this panel, find each other, we have one
young lady who's starting Monday. She could -- and then
another woman who is retired, y'all can -- pediatrics, we have
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all kinds of things y'all can talk about.
Okay?
You can try to convince this young man here to be a
Falcons fan. I don't know. But talk about other things like
that, anything except this case.
All right?
And the second thing I need you to do is if you see
any of the parties outside, don't talk to them. They're going
to avoid you. They're probably not even going to say hello,
and they're doing that on my instructions. They're very
friendly people, but they're just not going to speak with you
because they're not supposed to.
Anybody else that approaches you and talks to you
about this case in any way, you let me know. It won't happen,
it shouldn't happen, and it can't happen.
Okay?
And then the third thing is you have to look to your
right and your left, see who you're sitting next to and come
back to the exact same place.
Okay?
We know you by this list. If you get out of order,
we've got to start the whole thing again.
Okay?
So look to your right and look to your left, and make
sure that you come back exactly where you're leaving us.
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Okay?
So you-all can go out here. There's restrooms out
there. And we're going to start bringing people back slowly
one by one.
Okay?
Thank you.
COURTROOM DEPUTY: All rise.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors exited the
courtroom.)
THE COURT: Okay. Y'all can be seated.
So my plan is just to bring people in, anybody that
said they wanted to talk about things privately.
Okay?
And I'll have them just stand in the back there and
I'll ask them about those items.
Okay?
All right. Would you ask --
MR. FINLAYSON: I'm sorry. Can we get a bathroom
break?
THE COURT: Oh, yeah. Y'all wanted to a break, too.
Sure. A hard five minutes.
Okay?
Because I want to get going, and I want to try to get
a lot done before the lunch break.
Okay?
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(Whereupon, a recess was taken.)
THE COURT: Y'all can be seated.
I'm just going to bring them in one by one. One sort
of thing, somehow, a lot of these jurors have started talking
about identity theft, as if it is somehow relevant to this
case.
This case does not involve identity theft, correct?
MR. FINLAYSON: Not anymore.
THE COURT: It doesn't involve cyber theft, either,
or cyber crime, right?
MS. CONNORS: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: No.
THE COURT: I might -- is there any objection if I
tell them that the next time somebody brings that up? Does
either side object to that?
MR. FINLAYSON: No objection.
MS. CONNORS: No, I think that's fine, Your Honor.
THE COURT: I don't know if it was the gentleman who
was a professor, but somehow everybody started thinking that
this has to do with identity theft and cyber crime and it
seems like a lot of people want to tell us that they know
something about that.
Okay?
All right. Let's bring in first -- I have got -- I'm
just going to go -- if I miss anybody, you-all tell me and
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we'll circle back -- Ms. King, Juror Number 7. She got
emotional as well pretty quickly.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 7.
THE COURT: Good morning. You can stay there.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: But you were starting to talk about
something involving -- or you said you wanted to talk to us
privately about Number 8.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, yes. My uncle was murdered.
THE COURT: Okay. How long ago did that happen?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was a kid, early '80s.
THE COURT: Okay. Obviously that's something that
affects you, I can tell by your voice.
Is that something that you can put out of your mind
during this case?
THE WITNESS: I think so, yeah.
THE COURT: Okay. Obviously, this case has nothing
to do with anything like that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I get that.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Well, I appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Any follow-up from either party?
Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
Number 11. Adeyeye. All right. Let's try 12, we'll
go back to Mr. Adeyey. Number 12 is Daring.
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COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 12.
THE COURT: Hi there. You told me that you wanted to
speak privately about Number 7, a relative or friend accused
of a crime and Number 8, a relative or a friend who was a
victim.
Can you tell me about both of those?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Both of my parents have
been accused or at least arrested.
And Number 8 was my own personal experience, I was
robbed at gunpoint down in Florida.
THE COURT: Your parents, how long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's over a decade.
THE COURT: And was that resolved?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was.
THE COURT: Obviously, it's been a decade.
Okay. Was there anything about the way your parents
were treated that would impact your ability to be fair?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: You think you could put that aside in
deciding the case on the facts here?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And where were you living when you were
robbed?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was going to school down in
Tampa, so New Tampa -- not New Tampa, could have been Seminole
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Heights, but it was a neighborhood in Tampa.
THE COURT: Okay. And obviously this case has
nothing even touching on that.
Will that impact your ability to be fair?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Okay. Any follow-up from either party?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate
it.
The next one I have is Number 17, Ms. Dodson.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 17.
THE COURT: Hi, Ms. Dodson.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: You said you wanted to talk to us
privately about 7 and 8, that's family or friends who were
either accused of a crime or victims.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Can you talk to me a little bit about
those experiences?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sure. So my oldest son has been
convicted of drug-related charges.
THE COURT: And how long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Within the last year.
THE COURT: And was that a federal case in this
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courthouse or was that elsewhere?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, not federal.
THE COURT: Okay. And do you have any opinion about
whether he was treated fairly?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do think he was treated fairly.
THE COURT: And will that, what your son went
through, would that impact your ability to be fair to both
sides in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It will not impact my -- you said
my ability to be fair?
THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It will not impact it.
THE COURT: You think you can put that out of your
head and judge this case based on the law and the facts that
I -- the law I give you and the facts at issue?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
THE COURT: Okay. And how about the other thing, a
victim.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. So my mother has been
recently diagnosed with short-term memory loss. And
unfortunately, she has been the victim multiple times of bank
fraud as well as credit card fraud. And recently was sold
coins, gold coins, so unfortunately, we are experiencing a lot
in that regard.
THE COURT: Okay. Do you think that would impact
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your ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no.
THE COURT: Okay. Do you think you can put that out
of your head as well?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Any questions from either party?
MS. CONNORS: Do you mean that someone said that they
were selling her gold coins?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, somebody did sell her gold
coins.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much. I hope you
have a nice day.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All right. Thank you.
THE COURT: Ms. London, Juror Number 18.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 18.
THE COURT: Hi, Ms. London.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, hi.
THE COURT: You said that you might want to talk
privately about a friend or relative who was either arrested
or accused of a crime.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. In 1997, in Louisiana, my
brother was arrested and accused of home robbery in a racial
profiling episode that we went through. We actually went
through an entire trial. It was during the time of the
OJ Simpson case, and we were told -- we lived in a
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predominantly Caucasian neighborhood. And we were told that
because OJ Simpson was freed that my brother would spend the
rest of his life in prison.
Like I said, we went through the trial, he was found
not guilty, but it cost my family over $150,000, and it kind
of spiraled and it took a long time for our family to recover
from trying to get my brother freed. So it kind of tainted my
view of the legal system.
In 2010, I was also arrested on a simple mistake. I
was accused of theft by taking of a scenario that I had no
idea about. And I fought it and fought it. But it almost
cost me my teaching career, so it's just been a few things in
the legal system that has kind of tainted my view of things
that were blown way out of proportion that should not have
been.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Do you think that would affect your
ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Honestly, I'm not -- I'm not
sure, because I don't -- I believe -- and just what I've seen,
that sometimes the intent of the legal system is not to find
truth. Because, like I said, in both cases that I've
experienced, it was a lot of things that showed evidence that
showed that neither were true, but the case continued on and,
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you know, thousands and thousands of dollars were spent.
So I don't know -- like I said, my view is a little
bit tainted. I just believe that the innocent is not always
found innocent and the guilty is not always found guilty and
that's my honest belief.
THE COURT: Okay. That might make you the perfect
juror, right? We want people who come in here and have
independent thought. Really the question for you is -- what I
hear you saying is that you want to see the proof, that you
know that the legal system doesn't always -- you think the
legal system doesn't always get it right.
Is that what you're saying?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm saying that even when there
is proof, if there is an intent to cause someone to suffer,
then because they are the legal system and it's more powerful
than maybe an individual person or a family, that sometimes it
continues on. Because especially in my brother's and my case,
there was not really enough proof.
I'll give you an example. The victim said that her
robber she had to look up to. Well, her and my brother were
the same height.
THE COURT: Fair, okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You know, but again, we went
through a lengthy trial and my brother could have spent up to
99 years in jail for something that he did not do, and it
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caused -- even though he didn't get convicted, it stopped him
from getting jobs. It just caused a ten-year spiral in his
life that didn't have to be.
THE COURT: Okay.
THE WITNESS: Yes.
THE COURT: Okay. Yes, sir.
MR. FINLAYSON: I just want to -- can you base any
kind of verdict on what the evidence that you actually see in
this courtroom, could you fairly just look at the evidence
that they show in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would hope so, but like I said,
I'm honestly not sure. I would -- I would hope so. Like I
said, my view is a bit tainted.
Now, you know, just my thinking is a little
different. Some crimes I think that people go to prison for
are not necessarily crimes that they should go to prison for.
I do have a -- you know, a different view that's been shaped
by some of my experiences and the things that I've seen. I
would hope so, but I'm -- I can't give 100 percent answer in
all truthfulness.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you for your honesty.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: The Judge is going to tell you the
law in the case.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
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MR. FINLAYSON: Can you follow that law and apply it
as you see it to the facts of the case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I would hope I can. I've never
served on a jury. I would hope, but I wouldn't want to stand
up here and say 100 percent yes and I -- in all honesty, I'm
just not sure.
I do believe that -- like I said, my views were
tainted. When I started to get a little bit more hopeful in
the justice system, then my situation happened. And I'm just
giving you the best honest answer that I can. I would hope to
think that I could. I'm just not 100 percent sure that I --
that I can.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you think anybody is 100 percent
sure?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can't speak for anyone else.
There's some things that I've been 100 percent sure about in
my life. But I can't speak for anyone else but myself.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE COURT: I appreciate you.
The next one is Juror Number 21, Mr. Hunter.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror 21.
THE COURT: Sir, you told me that you might want to
speak privately about --
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 7 and 8?
THE COURT: Yes, 7 and 8, friends or family accused
of a crime or victims of a crime.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. My brother was on -- this
has been awhile back, but he used my name. The three times,
you're out, he did 16 straight years.
Okay. And my -- I had a younger brother and a
younger sister that actually were murdered. This is back in
Detroit. I come here in '84.
THE COURT: So your younger brother and younger
sister were murdered in Detroit?
THE WITNESS: Right.
THE COURT: And your older brother was convicted of a
crime?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My -- I'm a year older than he
is.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He used my name. And as a matter
of fact, I had to go to the GBI when I got my pistol permit,
you know, they gave me a piece of paper. Still the only way
we'd be recognized is through thumbprint, yeah.
THE COURT: Do you think that any of what your
siblings have gone through, will that affect your ability to
be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Like I heard the guy say, right
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is right, you know, everybody can distinguish between right
and wrong, you know, and I know the difference.
THE COURT: And you think you can put aside these
other experiences?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's behind me, yes.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you.
Any follow-up, y'all?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: No.
THE COURT: Clark. Number 22, Ms. Clark.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Number 22, Ms. Clark.
THE COURT: Hi, Ms. Clark. You told me you might
want to talk privately about a family or friend who was
accused of a crime.
Can you tell me about that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's my son.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's -- he's currently at the --
in Wright Street for indecent exposure. I'm very upset and
just nervous about it. And all I can think about is just
that. I'm very depressed.
THE COURT: Okay. And that's ongoing at this moment?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Yeah. He's currently in
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jail now. He's been there for about three months.
THE COURT: Oh, okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And we're trying to get him some
type of help, trying to get him to talk to a social worker and
that's hard to do. And my daughter has three small children
and she doesn't want him to come back and live with us, so I'm
just worried about him being homeless when he gets out. I
don't know how long he's going to be in there.
THE COURT: Is that something that would affect your
ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: Tell me how that is.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I just -- I can only think about
that, you know, I just -- I'm just -- I'm depressed. I
wouldn't be able to concentrate on this trial.
THE COURT: Any questions from the parties?
MR. FINLAYSON: If you were placed on the jury, could
you listen to the witnesses testify from the stand?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I could, but I'm just -- it would
just -- I would be thinking about him being in jail.
MR. FINLAYSON: What about the Judge, if the Judge
tells you to apply the law in the case, could you apply that
law in the case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: What do you mean?
MR. FINLAYSON: If he instructs you on what the law
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is and how you're supposed to apply it to the facts, could you
do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know. I'm not sure.
MR. FINLAYSON: Nothing further, Judge.
MS. CONNORS: Has this created any problem for you at
work, are you having difficulty concentrating at work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
THE COURT: Okay. I'm assuming when you say the
social worker, you want the social worker, that he needs
mental health treatment, is that what you're saying?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right. He's trying to get in
some type of program. He said something about the PAD program
and, you know, just something that would -- he needs some kind
of counseling so he doesn't repeat this again.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. I'm very sorry for
what you're going through. As a parent, I can imagine it's
got to be awfully hard --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It is.
THE COURT: -- to have something beyond your control
like that. I'm sorry for you. And I appreciate you telling
us about it. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
THE COURT: The next one is Mr. Ellison, Juror 25.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 25,
Mr. Ellison.
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THE COURT: Sir, I think you told me that you wanted
to speak privately about a relative or friend who was a victim
of a crime?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. In 1999, the mother of my
child, she was gang raped at the University of Georgia by a
basketball player and two football players, so...
THE COURT: Okay. Would that affect your ability to
be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Any questions?
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
MR. FINLAYSON: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir, I appreciate it.
The next one is 28, Ms. Fisher.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 28,
Ms. Fisher.
THE COURT: Ms. Fisher, you told me -- I asked to
talk with you, you didn't ask to do it privately, but you had
started talking about a friend who was a victim of bank fraud
and it was clear to me you had some pretty strong feelings
about that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, my aunt.
THE COURT: Tell me a little bit about that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She met some fraudster at church.
We knew nothing about the financial dealings until federal
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agents showed up at my cousin's door front.
It started with this guy asking her to cash checks
for her out of her account. We noticed that a lot of her
money was missing. Like, you know, she was a retired federal
employee, she had a retirement check she got every month. We
noticed that money was missing, she was short every month.
Long story short, we changed her bank account, we put
my cousin in charge of everything, we changed her phone number
twice so the guy couldn't reach her anymore. But because it
was church related, he kept -- we eventually moved her to Ohio
to live with my sister.
She was older, he took advantage of the fact that she
had -- at that moment in time, when they first met, we didn't
recognize dementia, but pretty quickly we did. Again, it took
about four years to get through this all. She died in
December, all but penniless because of this.
THE COURT: Okay. sorry that you have gone through
this. Do you think it would affect your ability to be fair in
this case?
THE WITNESS: Honestly, I didn't think about it until
you gave the three sentences. Yeah, I do. I'm still pretty
angry about it.
THE COURT: All right. This doesn't involve anything
like that in terms of a personal relationship or anything of
that nature.
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But you still think it's something that would impact
your ability to be fair?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I want to say no, but I do, I do.
THE COURT: Okay. Questions from either party?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, Your Honor.
MS. CONNORS: No.
THE COURT: Thank you very much, ma'am. I appreciate
it.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
THE COURT: Okay. The next one is Number 29,
Ms. Oleary.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 29.
THE COURT: Ma'am, you told me that you might want to
talk privately about friends or people who have either been
accused of a crime or victims of a crime.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I didn't really say
privately, but I --
THE COURT: Oh, okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. Actually, I've been the
victim of a crime and I have a friend that was a victim of a
crime, her son was killed, murdered in their home.
And I was robbed on Fulton Industrial and also a
victim of property crime.
THE COURT: Looking at my notes, but I think I asked
you and you said you could put that aside.
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, absolutely.
THE COURT: Okay. Sorry to bring you back in here.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. No problem.
THE COURT: I've got to pay attention to my
highlighting.
Number 30, Mr. Rosselot.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 30.
THE COURT: Yes, sir. I think you said that there
was something involving your wife that you wanted to talk
about privately.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir. Just in interest of
her privacy, before we met, so 30 years ago, she was a victim
of sexual assault, so...
THE COURT: Anything about that that you think would
impact your ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, not at all.
THE COURT: Okay. Any questions, y'all?
MR. FINLAYSON: No.
MS. CONNORS: No.
THE COURT: Thank you, sir.
The next to last is Ms. Sosebee, Number 37.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 37.
THE COURT: Ms. Sosebee, you told us you might want
to speak privately about family and friends who were either
accused of a crime or victims of a crime.
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Can you talk to me about that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay. My husband's nephew served
time for meth and for counterfeiting, but it's been over ten
years.
THE COURT: All right. And is there anything about
that, that experience that your extended family went through
that would impact your ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Do you think as you hear the evidence or
weigh the evidence, it would linger in the back of your head?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Okay. Anything else about victims?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My brother was murdered back
1983, so it's been a long time.
THE COURT: Okay. How old was he at the time?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 26.
THE COURT: Anything about that that would impact
you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
THE COURT: So the only one we still need is 11,
Mr. Adeyeye.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 11.
MR. FINLAYSON: Can we bring 3 back in as well?
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THE COURT: Sure.
Mr. Adeyeye, you told us that you had a friend who
might have been a victim -- or accused of a crime that you
wanted to speak to us privately about that; is that right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
THE COURT: Talk to me about that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was my closest friend's
brother. And he was charged with fraud as well. And it was a
very tough case on everybody, my family, his family, included,
and he was, I would say, unjustly tried. He was a first-time
offender, and he was giving about 20 years, and, yeah, that
was --
THE COURT: Where did this happen?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Here in Georgia.
THE COURT: Was it a federal case or a state case, do
you know?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I believe it was a state case.
THE COURT: Okay. And is there anything about that
process or the way that you believe -- do you think that your
brother's friend -- no, your friend's brother.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Friend's brother.
THE COURT: Do you think that person was treated
fairly? I get the sense that you don't.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I do believe in justice,
and it's logic as well, you know, it's logic based. And even
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with that, I still believe that he was not. Because, like I
said, he was a first-time offender. He was not the
orchestrater of what was happening or what happened, so he --
I feel like he needed to be given a little bit more leeway in
that sense.
THE COURT: Fair enough. Do you think that that
could impact your ability to be fair in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Like I said, I do believe
justice is, you know, logic based, logical. And yeah,
that's -- I try to keep my emotions away from it.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you very much.
Any follow-up, parties?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.
Could we now bring in Juror Number 3, Mr. Lee.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Juror Number 3.
THE COURT: What are you going to ask him about?
MR. FINLAYSON: His original reaction.
THE COURT: Okay.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: Number 3.
THE COURT: Mr. Lee, I just wanted to follow up with
you very briefly about your initial reaction or your initial
discussion of the work you do and how it might impact your
ability to serve on a jury here.
Can you talk to me a little bit about that?
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Do you think it will affect your ability to be fair
in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just kind of that -- I am
teaching the cyber crime currently. And then the main issue
of the fraud, online fraud, those kind of issues, so I liken
that to the -- you know, that you guys know about the issue.
THE COURT: Do you think that you could follow my
instructions?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I can do that.
THE COURT: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
THE COURT: Anything from the parties?
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you think you have an unusual
prospective or perhaps a bias because of the work you do?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not much to be biased, I just
read the many -- the cases in the class and then discuss the
issue in the class, too.
MR. FINLAYSON: I'm sorry.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Discuss that issue in the
classroom.
MR. FINLAYSON: And what kind of issue do you discuss
in the classroom?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Like the general kind of online
fraud and then to bring up the cases, case by case, we
discuss.
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MS. CONNORS: You mean like legal cases or are you
talking about like factual examples?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Most of the factual cases.
MR. FINLAYSON: So are you talking about sort of
common ways that fraud is done?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Including those kinds of things.
The case that just a student or me bringing into the newspaper
or news media.
MR. FINLAYSON: And how did you become trained in
this area?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Trained?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yeah. How did you learn about this?
How did you learn about cyber crime in these areas?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So the cyber crime is basically a
new way that making some kind of fraud or the criminal things
is online, so we discuss the very different type of the cyber
crime, not just limit it to online, to the fraud, including
that I mention about the identity theft or kind of that the
phishing style, those kind of things, also, including some
kind of digital foreign thing is an issue, too, so...
MR. FINLAYSON: But how did you learn about these
things?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Me?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, I trained. And then I have a
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Ph.D. in sociology and criminology.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Did you learn about the
cyber crime too while training for the Ph.D?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, the part of. Yeah. I
checked quite clearly that the cyber crime is not that
different from any other crime and the behavior, but simply
that, in my point of view, they're using the new technology or
social media.
MR. FINLAYSON: Were you trained by law enforcement
agents?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no, no.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you ever interacted with law
enforcement agents?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. In terms of the law
enforcement, my current project working with the police
department in DeKalb County.
MR. FINLAYSON: So your project right now is with the
police in DeKalb County?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: The police or law enforcement agents
are going to testify in this trial for the government.
Do you think you might view their testimony -- you
might be more on their side because you work with police
yourself?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, yeah. Yeah. Just contrary
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to one of my project is they're working with the local law
enforcement with the agencies, right, usually that I interpret
them or I just surveyed that that is a special issue.
MR. FINLAYSON: So you might be more on their side
because of that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm very objective that -- yeah,
I'm not much as taking any side.
MR. FINLAYSON: You know you will --
THE WITNESS: I mean, scientific, the way I do my
research.
MR. FINLAYSON: And how often do you work with those
guys?
The DeKalb County Police Department, how often do you
work with them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, my surveys that are conducted
last year and then 2001. And currently I'm just doing that to
some -- the analysis of the data I collected from the
department.
MR. FINLAYSON: And are you getting paid by the
DeKalb County Police Department?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you ever been paid by them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: By the department?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
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MR. FINLAYSON: That's all I've got, Judge.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.
All right. So folks, the next step is -- I don't
think there's any others that said it. Does anybody think
there are other people that we need to follow up with
individually?
Okay. The next step is to have your individual
voir dire. I'd like to start that and go until -- the
government can go first until you finish or 12:30, 12:40-ish.
If you're not done then get to a spot where you're done and
then let's take a break.
Okay?
Any questions, concerns right now that y'all want to
talk about?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
MS. CONNORS: No.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Let's bring them all
back in then.
(Whereupon, the jurors entered the courtroom.)
THE COURT: All right. Everybody back where they're
supposed to be? Anybody think their neighbor is missing?
I think we've got one missing person, Juror 27.
All right. Everybody think their neighbor is present
and accounted for?
Okay. Great. All right. We're now at the step in
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the process -- we're moving very well, by the way -- we are at
the step in the process where the parties are going to get an
opportunity to ask you-all individual questions. Please give
them your attention. This is -- this is a very important part
of the process.
And again, if they ask you something that you want to
talk about privately, just let us know.
Okay?
All right. We'll go ahead and start with the
United States.
MS. CONNORS: Again, I'm Kelly Connors, so I'll be
going through a few of these questions with you.
What is typically helpful during this process is
you-all have a number card that I think most of you're sitting
on probably right now. You should be able to pick that up
from your seat, because generally what I like to do is ask
questions to begin with. If anyone has a positive response to
that question, if you can hold up your card number, that would
help us so that we can write down that you have a response to
that. You'll see that I'll go over some questions initially
and then I'll do individual follow-up after.
So to begin with, you'll just have to raise that
number card. Sometimes people also like to stand up, if
that's your preference, as long as we can see your number
card, that should be fine.
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Okay?
All right. If you would, please look around the jury
room and raise your hand if you think that you know anyone
else who is sitting with you on the panel today.
Okay.
All right. This case involves allegations that in
early 2021, Karl Delano, formerly known as Carl Torjagbo,
obtained a fraudulent loan from a federally insured financial
institution and that he filed two fraudulent 2020 federal tax
returns.
Do you have any personal knowledge of the facts of
this case or about the defendant that has not come from what
you have learned in court today?
Okay.
The indictment charges the defendant with, among
other offenses, bank fraud and alleges that the victim of the
bank fraud was JPMorgan Chase Bank.
Have you or anyone in your immediate family ever
worked for Chase Bank?
Anyone else?
Okay. I have 15 and 12.
Anyone else?
Okay. Aside from JPMorgan Chase Bank, have you or
any member of your immediate family or a close friend ever
worked for a bank or a company that issues loans?
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All right. 9, 12, 11, 13, 15, 16.
I've got over on that side, 28, 40, 39, 38, and 37.
Did I get everyone? And 3. Thank you.
Has any member of the panel or any member of your
immediate family had an unpleasant or negative experience with
a bank or company that issues loans?
Okay. 38, 29. I'm sorry, did I see yours, ma'am?
Thank you. 28, 18 and 3.
Okay. Did I get everyone?
Was there someone in the back two rows? I had 38,
29, 28, 18 and 3.
Okay. In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, certain
federal programs were created to counteract the economic
hardships faced by many businesses and individuals. These
programs provided financial relief to businesses and
individuals through government funding. One of these programs
was the Paychecks Protection Program or what is sometimes
referred to as PPP.
Does any member of the panel have a negative opinion
about the Paycheck Protection Program or any other
government-funded economic relief program that would prevent
you from being a fair and impartial juror?
Okay. No responses.
Okay. Have you or has anyone in your immediate
family ever worked for the Small Business Administration?
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Okay.
Does any member of the jury panel have any opinions
about the Small Business Administration, the
Internal Revenue Service, the Federal Bureau of Investigation
or any other federal, state or local law enforcement agency
that would affect your ability to render a fair and impartial
verdict in this case?
Okay. Would any member of the panel have difficulty
fairly evaluating the testimony of law enforcement witnesses
or other witnesses employed by government agencies?
Okay. In this case, you will hear from at least one
IRS employee.
Has any member of the panel had any experience that
would affect your ability to evaluate an IRS witness's
testimony in a fair and impartial manner?
Okay. Have you ever had an unpleasant experience
with any government agency or government employee which might
make it difficult for you to serve as a fair and impartial
juror in this case?
Okay. Have you, any member of your immediate family
or a close friend ever been involved in a lawsuit or any kind
of litigation with the United States Government?
Has any member of the jury panel formed a negative
opinion about prosecutors, police or federal investigators?
This case is being prosecuted by the United States
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Attorneys Office for the Northern District of Georgia, which
is part of the United States Department of Justice.
Do you have any feelings or opinions about the
United States Attorneys Office or the United States Department
of Justice that might make it difficult for you to serve as a
fair and impartial juror in this case?
Okay. At the close of this case, the Court will
instruct you on the law that you must follow in reaching your
verdict.
If the Court's instructions conflict with your
personal beliefs or convictions, would you be unable to follow
the Court's instructions?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Redo that.
MS. CONNORS: Which I know that you've already been
advised of something somewhat close to this.
If the Court's instructions conflict with your
personal beliefs, would you be unable to follow the Court's
instructions?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: And you're Juror Number Four, correct?
Okay. Do you or does any member of your immediate
family own or operate a business?
And some of you may have told us about spouses owning
businesses, but if you will still go ahead and hold up your
card, that will help.
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Number 7. Okay. All right. I have 7, 9, 10, 17,
19, 3, 22, 23, 40, let's see, 29, 28, 27, 25, 35, 33, 32, 25,
let's see, 26. Okay. Let's see. 14.
Okay. Did I get everyone's number?
Okay. All right. The indictment alleges that the
defendant obtained a PPP loan in the name of
Kremkov Industries, LLC.
Do you think you've ever heard of Kremkov Industries,
LLC?
Has any member of the panel applied for a PPP loan or
had a family member or close friend apply for a PPP loan?
I've got 32 and 40. Let's see, 35. Okay. And 40,
okay.
Okay. If any member of the panel or an immediate
family member was employed by a company that received a PPP
loan, is there anything about that circumstance that would
prevent you from being a fair and impartial juror?
Aside from student loans, has any member of the panel
applied for any type of government loan or had a family member
or close friend apply for one?
This would include loans through the
Small Business Administration. Okay. 18. 35, 40.
Okay. As part of your duties at work, have you ever
had any responsibility related to employees' payroll such as
calculating payroll, issuing checks or direct deposits and
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enrolling new employees in payroll systems?
40. And what's your number back there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 42.
MS. CONNORS: 42, okay. 42, 40, 37, 28, 25, 2, 9,
23. Yes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Did you say outside of work or --
what was the --
MS. CONNORS: As part of your duties at work. And
12, okay. Did I get everyone?
All right. As part of your duties at work, have you
ever had any responsibility related to employees' tax
withholdings, such as federal income taxes and Social Security
taxes that are deducted from paychecks?
42, 40, 9, 12. Let's see, I've got 40. Okay. Is
that everyone?
Okay. Have you or any member of your immediate
family ever received a salary or wages from a mining company?
Okay. Have you or any member of your immediate
family ever worked for a trucking logistics company?
29, 28, 35, 5, 8, 15, 17.
Let's see. I believe I gotcha, yes, ma'am.
Aside from a change due to marriage or divorce, has
any member of the jury panel or close family member changed
his or her name?
29. Anyone else?
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Okay. Have you, any of your relatives or your close
friends ever had any of your assets seized by the government?
Okay. Have you ever worked as an accountant or
auditor?
40, 28, 9, 15.
Have you ever worked as a tax preparer or as part of
your duties at work, have you had any responsibility in
preparing tax returns?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 40. Okay.
MS. CONNORS: Do you have any paralegal training?
17, 19.
Okay. Have you ever attended law school? And we
know we have one response at least to that.
Let's see. Anyone else?
Okay. Have you or any member of your immediate
family ever worked for a law firm or other organization that
defended people who were charged with committing crimes?
Okay. 29, 17, 30, 28, let's see, 23. And I think
I've got everyone.
Have you ever belonged to or donated money to any of
the following organizations: The ACLU, Prison Outreach, The
Innocence Project or the Fully Informed Jury Association?
Okay. 27, 28. Let's see anyone -- and 26. Anyone
else?
Okay. If you tend to feel sympathy for someone who
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is charged with committing a crime, do you believe that those
feelings might make it difficult for you to serve as a fair
and impartial juror in this case?
22.
Do you have any beliefs or views that you have not
yet mentioned that would prevent you from being fair to both
the government and the defendant in this case?
Okay. Is there any other reason that you prefer not
to sit on this jury?
Yes, sir?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I just want to --
THE COURT: I'm sorry. We need to have you repeat
what you said.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm saying -- I said --
THE COURT: Stand up. I can't hear you very well.
Go ahead.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I'm saying that I'm losing
money as we speak because I'm not getting paid at Home Depot
for the eight hours or each time. And that's serious for me.
It's just me and my son living together.
THE COURT: Okay. Understood. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Very hard.
THE COURT: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. This is the point where I sit
down so I can write a whole bunch of stuff.
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Okay. Let's see what you have. Okay. So let's see.
Juror Number 12, do you mind standing up for us so we
can make sure that we can see you. It's sometimes hard.
And you indicated that you had experience with
someone at JPMorgan Chase Bank?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, my cousin and my uncle both
worked there for a considerable amount of time.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Was that at a branch?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One handled loan origination,
something to that nature, and then my uncle, I can't remember
exactly what he did specifically.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So do they no longer work for
JPMorgan Chase?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. They don't anymore?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Do they work in some other type
of banking now?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My cousin, she works for Fidelity
now.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is that position still
anything related to loan origination?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I believe you said that you
were a senior diversity manager at your company?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm, yes.
MS. CONNORS: And what does your company do? Are you
Visa as in credit cards?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, the technology company, not
a credit card company.
MS. CONNORS: Okay, gotcha. And then are -- so are
you in like HR?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then both of your kids are
still in school; is that correct?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have one adult child and one in
elementary school.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And your adult child, was it
that they just graduated from college?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, they're in college.
MS. CONNORS: Oh, in college currently. Okay.
Okay. And I know you also answered to if you had
anyone else working in the banking industry. Is that just
your cousin and your uncle?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I worked for Bank of America, but
that was some time ago.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
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that was asked.
MS. CONNORS: Yes. So you worked there. What was
your role at Bank of America?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A bank teller.
MS. CONNORS: And do you remember approximately how
long ago that was?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, 15, 15 years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And how long were you there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was there almost two years.
MS. CONNORS: So that was at like a local bank
branch?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And let me see so I can avoid
having you stand up multiple times. Let's see. Make sure
that I'm not forgetting.
Okay. You indicated that you have some job duties --
job responsibilities related to payroll.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I've had job responsibilities
to onboard talent, so contractors.
MS. CONNORS: Um-hmm.
THE WITNESS: And so usually we use some type of
staffing agency for that. And so I have to go in and make
sure that their hours are processed or correct before payments
are submitted.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So is it mostly contractors, not
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for the salaried employees?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Exactly.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. I think that's all I have. I
think that's it. Thank you so much, ma'am.
Okay. And Juror Number 15. And hello, I think you
said you also knew someone who had worked for Chase Bank.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, a close friend in Louisiana.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Do they still work there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. How long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About three or four years ago.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do you know if they did
anything related to loans?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She was a loan officer.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Do you know what type of loans,
like was it mortgage or business loans?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Business.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Let's see. And how long have
you been retired?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two years.
MS. CONNORS: Two years. And then I believe you said
your husband was also retired. Was that at about the same
amount of time?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A little more.
MS. CONNORS: A little more, okay.
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And you said both of your kids are engineers. What
type of engineers?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Mechanical.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what type of company do they
work for?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Consulting and a small private
engineering firm here.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Okay. And then you indicated
that you had some other -- knew other people in the banking
industry or people that issued loans.
Is that someone aside from your friend?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, just her.
MS. CONNORS: Just her, okay. All right. And let's
see.
And then you indicated you had a family member who
had worked for a trucking or logistics company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, my stepfather.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is that his current
employment or was that in the past?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: In the past.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Did he own his own company or
did he work for a company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Work for.
MS. CONNORS: And you indicated that you had done
some work activities as an accountant or auditor.
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What was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I worked for SunTrust and Truist
Bank --
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
THE WITNESS: -- for a number of years, auditor,
accountant, and Delta Community Credit Union --
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: -- as an auditor, accountant and
the risk manager.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Risk officer.
MS. CONNORS: And as a risk manager, what were --
what was your primary role?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I worked in the finance area,
supporting HR, just different areas of the bank.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Did you have to do anything with
account risk or were you mostly on the side of any kind of
employee/employer operational risk?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Like employer.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Anything else?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (No audible response.)
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
Okay. And Juror Number 9. Hello.
I believe you said that you had someone who had
worked for a bank or a company that issues loans?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I put myself through
college working at a bank.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what bank did you work for?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Bank of America. It changed like
five times when I was there, before it was a credit union,
so...
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And how long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: How old am I? 56, so 18, 19.
MS. CONNORS: You pretty much just moved out of that
banking industry when you got out of school?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Anyone else that -- any family
members or close friends that work for a bank or any other
company that would issue loans?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. All right. Let me see. And I
believe you said that you're a CFO for a real estate company.
How long have you been in that position?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Three years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what did you do before that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was just -- I was a controller
for Mercedes Benz Stadium.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Food and beverage.
MS. CONNORS: The stadium right over here?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Nodding.)
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And in that work activity,
have -- do you have any control over hiring or payroll, any
type of activity like that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I've done payroll for as
many years as I've been in accounting.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So is that something that is
part of your regular duties?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. Right now I do payroll
every two weeks.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And so would you be responsible
for the tax withholdings, anything like that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Does that mean you also -- do you have
any experience with having to submit any tax documents for the
company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I put everything together
for the tax documents.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. All right. And I know you
responded that you'd been an accountant or auditor.
Is it all in that capacity that you've already
discussed?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Let's see.
And then you also indicated you had a family member
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or a close friends who owned their own company.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My wife, yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is that the interior design
business?
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And how long has she had that
company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The year before COVID, so
probably four or five years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Around like maybe 2019 or so?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I don't believe you raised
your hand about anything that she had received a PPP loan; is
that correct?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you so much, sir.
And Juror Number 11, I believe you said that you knew
someone who was in the banking or loan industry.
Who is that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My cousin.
MS. CONNORS: And how long has your cousin been in
that position?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: For about two years now.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And so that's their current
position?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Do you know what bank or company they
work for?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Wells Fargo.
MS. CONNORS: And are they in loan origination or do
they have another type of employment with the bank?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's software development.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So do you mean they're more on
like the IT side of the bank?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: So they wouldn't do things like account
openings or dealing with the actual bank accounts at the bank,
they're more computers?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, correct.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Okay. And I know you mentioned
you're 14 years in the U.S.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: Congratulations. Where are you from
originally?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Nigeria.
MS. CONNORS: And do you still have family that lives
in Nigeria?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And let's see. I know you said
you were a Stranger Things fan so you must be eager for the
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new season to come out.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I am.
MS. CONNORS: Eventually. They keep promising.
Okay. Let's see. Let me double-check if there was anything
else that you responded to. I think that's it. Thank you so
much, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. If we can go to Juror Number 13.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: And, ma'am, I know you said you were a
full-time student in Albany.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, Albany State University in
Albany, Georgia.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So are you -- are you here in
between school starting back?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: So you don't keep a permanent residence
there; is that right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. My permanent residence is in
Gwinnett County.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: When does school start back?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: August 18th.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So you won't have to go back to
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the temporary residence until that timeframe, right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: The whole time of this trial, you would
still be staying here in Gwinnett County?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And you indicated you're in like
a forensic science program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: And how many years in are you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's my pager. I'm in my last
semester.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And have you had any kinds of
like internships or anything related to that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not really. I did a crime scene
investigation summit, was it like last month, but I also did
an Albany Police Academy, like a program with them, but yeah.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So just a little -- yeah.
MS. CONNORS: Is there anything about your education
and the training that you're going through right now that you
think would interfere with your ability to strictly view the
evidence in this case and not try to bring in potentially
outside knowledge, just listen to the Judge?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I'm just here for the facts
of the case, so...
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MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's just the facts.
MS. CONNORS: And is there anything about your
training or background that would make you assume that there
should be certain types of evidence presented in a case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: And let's see. I believe you said that
you had a family member or a close friend who worked for a
bank or a loan company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, my dad. It was like 40
years ago.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And he also worked with Charles
Schwab, so he did move like money from different accounts for
people, yeah --
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: -- stuff like that, managed
money, so...
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So and he -- you said that a few
years ago he stopped working in that industry altogether or is
he now with Charles Schwab?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He stopped working there like 40
years ago. It was a long time ago --
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: -- in New York, so Wall Street,
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yeah, um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: Gotcha. So nothing recent.
You haven't talked to him about loans or anything
like that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, nothing recent.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. All right. Let me glance
through and see. And I think that was it. Thank you.
Juror Number 16. Hi, how are you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Doing well.
MS. CONNORS: Let's see. And so you indicated that
you had a friend or family member who worked for a bank or a
loan company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, my great cousin.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: Is that a current position that they
have or something in the past?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, they had a position. I
think it's at like Wells Fargo or something. I'm not sure
exactly what they do.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. But you think that they do -- do
you know if they work in the loan department or is it just in
the bank?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just in the bank that I know of.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I know you indicated that
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you had family who was in law enforcement.
Is there anything about that fact that would prevent
you from being fair and impartial in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And let me just double-check.
All right. Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. All right. And Juror Number 28.
And you indicated that you knew someone in the
banking industry or loan industry?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, for many years I worked for
GE Capital.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I left there about 15, 16 years
ago.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And how long were you there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was -- in total, I was at GE
for about 12 years, I think 6 or more on the capital side.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And during that time, did you
have involvement in loans?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did not do loan originations.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And you're currently with
Boeing?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Airplanes?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: And what do you do in program
management there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right now I'm leading a program
to implement a new payroll system for all of our international
offices.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So not the U.S., but every other
country.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do you have experience with
international payroll?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do now.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is that on like the
processing side or are you more on like a software side?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Both. We're -- we're improving
the process and we're implementing software.
MS. CONNORS: All right. And in terms of that
experience, are there certain countries that you're mostly
focused on?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's all countries except the
U.S. It's about 51 countries in total.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We -- we've completed nine, UK
will be the tenth and then we've got another 41 to go.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. That sounds like a big project.
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Let's see.
And so I believe that you responded a couple of times
to information about payroll.
Is that current program is that the only payroll
program, you haven't done that work in the past?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did an internship in college
with a small company and I did the payroll for them, but that
was longer than I care to admit.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. I understand. Let's see.
And you indicated that you had a family member who
was in the trucking or logistics business.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My dad worked for Consolidated
Freightways. And when he retired, he established his own
trucking company.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's retired full now.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I believe you had indicated
you had a family member who had their own business.
Is that your dad's business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My dad. I also have an executive
coaching firm.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So that's your own business that
you do in addition to working for Boeing?
THE WITNESS: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: And how long have you had that
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business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Since 2015.
MS. CONNORS: And it's a consulting business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: And do you have employees as part of
that business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: It's just you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just me.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I believe you indicated that
you had some type of unpleasant experience with a bank or a
loan department. Was it -- was it you or someone else?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it was a friend from college.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. This is something we discussed,
right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
THE COURT: Oh, this is something else?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. What we discussed, I
didn't think we needed to talk through again.
THE COURT: Yes.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I didn't raise my number for
any of that.
THE COURT: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: No, this would be something different,
correct?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: So you said that was when you were in
college.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, recently one of my friends
from college had -- is going through an issue with
Bank of America right now.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do you have any kind of
familiarity about that issue or do you just know that it
exists?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, yeah. We've talked about it
quite a bit.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's related to her mortgage
account.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She was generally paying her
taxes direct. She made a mistake after 20 something years and
they have overcharged her in escrow, I think you call it,
whatever you call it when you pay your taxes to the mortgage
company and then they pay it out.
MS. CONNORS: Um-hmm.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And she's fighting them now on
that. And she -- we spoke about it about a week ago. She
asked me if I know other people who worked there. I did. I
gave her some names.
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MS. CONNORS: Okay. So you know some people who work
at Bank of America?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is that someone other than who
you mentioned earlier?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Are they in the loan department
there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One of them is operations, she
does like six sigma work. And the other guy is managing
director. My guess is he's got probably some loan activity
under his group.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Anything about your friend's
issues with Bank of America that would prevent you from being
a fair and impartial juror in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: And if there was any evidence related
to bank accounts at Bank of America, do you think that that
would affect anything about your impartiality in the case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't think so.
MS. CONNORS: Let's see. And again, so the trucking
business was the only business for a family member?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Nodding.)
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And that was before your dad
retired, correct?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I believe you said that you
had a member of your immediate family that worked for a law
firm or another organization?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My mom.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. How long --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She's retired as well.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And she's been retired now for
six or seven years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what did she -- she worked
for a law firm?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She worked for two different law
firms, both times were I think more than 20 years ago.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She -- she's worked for judges in
the past, she's worked for lawyers in the past, she was clerk
of courts for two small suburbs in Ohio.
MS. CONNORS: But was all of that more than 20 years
ago or has she done that more recently?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: When she retired, she retired
from a clerk of courts job from a suburb in Ohio.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then you also indicated that
you had accounting or auditor experience.
Is that something different than what you've
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mentioned before in terms of the payroll?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, it is different.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I served as an auditor. I did
all of my formative years in finance.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And I served as an auditor for GE
Lighting, and I did a little bit of auditing on special
projects at GE Capital.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is there anything about your
background in banking and in finance that you think would kind
of influence how you would look at the evidence in this case
or do you think that you would just be able to look at the
records and listen to the testimony particularly from any kind
of bank employees?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I want to say yes.
MS. CONNORS: I get the want.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: But if a question may come up in
my brain, I want to say yes, but there may -- I may have a
question that -- that isn't covered and --
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And that might bother me a bit.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So do you think that if there
was something that you didn't feel had been presented during
the case, would it affect your ability to deliberate with your
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fellow jurors and be able to kind of keep that outside, only
focus on what is in the case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I can only focus on what's
in the case.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Okay. And then I think the last
thing I wanted to cover with you was you indicated that you
had donated to one of the organizations, which one was it?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: ACLU.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And how long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Last year.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Do you regularly donate to them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Anything about your involvement
with the ACLU that you think would prevent you from being a
fair and impartial juror?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Huh-uh.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. I believe that was all I had.
Okay. And, Judge, I think now was when you wanted to
take a break.
THE COURT: Okay. Let's take our lunch break now.
We're going to come back in one hour, at 1:40.
Okay?
So again, make sure you know where you're coming back
to, you've got to come back to that same place. And make sure
that you do not talk to each other about this case.
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All right?
Same rule applies. You cannot talk to each other
about this case.
All right. Enjoy the lunchroom downstairs.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors exited the
courtroom.)
THE COURT: Ms. Connors, how much longer do you think
you have?
MS. CONNORS: We have several people who had -- there
were a lot of people who answered.
THE COURT: I'm just asking how much longer you think
you have.
MS. CONNORS: Best guess, an hour.
THE COURT: An hour more?
MS. CONNORS: I would guess.
THE COURT: Okay. I mean, does anybody want to raise
cause issues? I mean, that woman you spent about 12 minutes
with, I think the last thing we heard from her was that she
could not be fair.
MR. FINLAYSON: And I think she said that earlier
about the aunt as well.
MS. CONNORS: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: She was upset that she couldn't get
off --
THE COURT: When we brought her in, she said I can't
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be fair and we've just spent 12 minutes on her.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: It was interesting.
MS. CONNORS: Your Honor, I mean, I agree, like I
think she probably should be struck for cause anyway, but then
out of an abundance of caution, I don't want to not --
THE COURT: Well, let's go through the ones that
you-all think should be struck for cause now, so that we can
streamline it.
I know I say I'm not putting time limits, and I'm
not, but you-all have to keep in mind that it doesn't mean
that you ought to use every moment that you think you have to
use. The jury wants to be dealt with efficiently and it just
puts the burden of self policing on you-all.
All right. Anybody want to raise for-cause
challenges so far?
MR. FINLAYSON: I would raise for Number Three. I
know there was attempts to Mr. Lee, I know there were attempts
to rehabilitate him, but I think his initial reaction spoke
volumes. The fact that he works with the DeKalb County Police
Department, the nature of his field.
I mean, he's not a law enforcement officer, but he
might as well be one, so I think Number Three should go for
cause.
I also think Number 4, the Jehovah's Witness should
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go for cause.
MS. CONNORS: Your Honor, I agree with Number 4, it
seems clear multiple times when there was any question about
what other people --
THE COURT: I agree.
MS. CONNORS: His beliefs --
THE COURT: He should be removed for cause. He
clearly said he can't sit in judgment.
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
Your Honor, Mr. Lee is a bit of a conundrum for me.
He did say that he thought that he could be objective. I'll
admit I think my bigger concern with him is that sometimes
during Mr. Finlayson's reaction with him, I was not confident
he was understanding some of the questions, so I don't have an
objection to him being struck.
I do think that there was some attempt to try to
rehabilitate him. He is not in law enforcement, but he did
seem to want to make a very big point that he reviews case law
as part of his regular profession and that he felt like that
would influence his ability to be a juror.
THE COURT: So I will say I don't -- I saw his first
reaction, I think he was just wanting to tell us what his job
is because it touched on cyber crime. But he was very clear
that he can be fair.
He said -- I can go back and look at the
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transcript -- but he described his work with the police as a
survey that he was now analyzing, but that his -- the work
that he does is scientific.
And I did not hear him say in any way that he did not
think that he could be fair or that he had any doubt about his
ability to put aside his -- what he believes the law to be in
his work and judge this case based upon the law that I give
him and the facts that he hears.
I have some concern over his comprehension, but I
think that's mostly his speaking. I haven't seen anything
that makes me think he's not following everything. You-all
can probe that more with him.
I understand why both of you might want him struck,
but that's the purpose of your strikes. I don't think that I
heard anything rise to the level of cause, and I'm going to --
I'm not going to apply a lesser degree of cause because
you-all both want him out for cause. I didn't hear him say
something like that.
Anyone else?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor. Your Honor, Juror
Number 18, that was the individual who came in. Some of the
things she said was she felt like her family history as well
as her own personal history of having been arrested before,
that things were blown out of proportion, tainted view of the
legal system, even when there is proof, it doesn't matter.
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That is certainly a huge concern.
And I do think Mr. Finlayson was trying to
rehabilitate her to some degree, but ultimately, her answers
were not unequivocal that she would be able to put all of that
aside. She at all junctures was saying that she did not think
that she could put it aside, that she maintains this tainted
view and that that -- it would affect her ability to be on
this jury, so I think she should be struck for cause.
THE COURT: Mr. Finlayson, do you think you
rehabilitate her?
MR. FINLAYSON: I'd like to think that I could
rehabilitate anyone.
THE COURT: Do you think you did in this case?
MR. FINLAYSON: She was very human and honest in her
answers. And I think she was expressing the reservations that
anyone might have. I think she was the one that said I can't
give it 100 percent or something like that, but it was close.
THE COURT: Yes. The record won't reflect the
hesitation in your voice in answering that.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
THE COURT: But I think that -- I don't think that
she was -- I think she was very honest. I think she said
something like I would hope to think that I could, but I can't
be sure. And I think that means that she has hit the mark for
cause.
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Anyone else?
MS. CONNORS: Your Honor, 22 is a little difficult
for me. I mean, I am concerned that she is saying that
this -- her son's current issues are overwhelming her to the
point where she can't concentrate. I did ask her if she was
having problems at work because of it --
THE COURT: I think she said very clearly that she
cannot concentrate.
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: That she will be listening to the
witnesses and thinking about her son.
MS. CONNORS: Yes.
THE COURT: Mr. Finlayson?
MR. FINLAYSON: My only concern about her answers
is -- and I -- and we don't know where the truth is here, but
I thought they were -- I questioned the sincerity. Like I
worry, let's say this, I worried that she was saying what she
needed to say to get out of here and that was --
THE COURT: I did not have that. I had -- my
impression was that her son is in jail on indecent exposure
charges and that she is a distraught mother, that she thinks
there is need for mental health, she hasn't been able to get
it for him and she doesn't know what will happen to him when
he does get out. It could be that she was using that for the
convenience, but I did not get that impression.
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Actually, I do not expect her to come to what she
said when we brought her back here, which was essentially that
she doesn't think she's going to be able to pay attention.
I'm inclined to strike her for cause as well.
And then anyone else?
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, where we started, Number 28.
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yes. I'm inclined to strike 28 as well.
So, I mean, I'm not going to do -- unless you want me
to now, does anybody intend to go back in on either Number 18,
Number 22, Number 28, any of those three?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
MS. CONNORS: In terms of questioning, no, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. Then I will strike those for
cause.
MR. FINLAYSON: And what about 4?
THE COURT: 18, 22, 28 and 4. 4 is -- yes, 4. I'll
strike all three of those -- four of those for cause.
If you want to go back in on Mr. Lee more, you can.
And anyone else you can, just because you-all said you don't
plan to go back in on those folks, I'm going to strike them
for cause now. I would have waited if you had said you
intended to.
Okay. Anything else?
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
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THE COURT: All right. We'll be back at 20 'til.
Okay. Thank you.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
(Whereupon, a lunch recess was taken.)
THE COURT: All right. Y'all ready?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: I have one other observation. We need 32
jurors to pick from.
MS. CONNORS: Umm-hmm.
THE COURT: We excused four, I think that is; is that
right?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: So that means we will be picking --
unless we lose more jurors, we will only be picking through
Juror 36, it looks like.
MR. FINLAYSON: And that's alternates as well, right?
THE COURT: Yes. Because you're going to get ten and
six strikes, ten for the defense, six for the government, and
then one more each for alternates, right?
MS. CONNORS: Um-hmm.
THE COURT: We're going to pick the first 14 -- the
first 12 will be our jurors. The next 2 will be our
alternates. So 16 plus 14 plus 2 is 32. And so we will only
be -- but we've got to have 4 more because we struck 4, so
we'll be picking from 36.
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So as you go through it, I don't think that there is
much chance of 37 through 43 getting on the jury is what I'm
trying to get to.
Okay?
MR. FINLAYSON: Agreed.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Are y'all ready for
the jury to come in?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors entered the
courtroom.)
THE COURT: All right. Anybody missing a neighbor?
Okay. Ms. Connors, go ahead. Thank you.
Everybody Okay? Anybody have any questions?
Concerns? Problems?
All right. Ms. Connors, go ahead.
MS. CONNORS: Thank you, Judge.
All right. Now that I've made my cheat sheet
hopefully I can go in order a little bit better.
So we are going to start with Juror Number 2.
I believe you said that you had some payroll duties
or experience with payroll?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am, very little.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Uh-oh.
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Do you need batteries?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you. I basically am just
in charge of getting the timecards ready to go up to our
corporate office for HR to spit the payroll, so just making
sure vacation time is on there correctly, everybody's clocked
in and out and stuff like that so...
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So even though you're the
practice manager, you're not handling specifically calculating
the payroll or having to do --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct, correct.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And Juror Number 5. I believe
you said you like crime shows.
Which crime shows do you like?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I watched basically all of them
like NCIS, Law & Order, stuff like that.
MS. CONNORS: So obviously those are dramas and TV
shows.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: Is there anything about watching those
TV shows that would, you know, kind of color how you would
anticipate the trial should unfold or how the evidence should
unfold?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: (Shaking head.)
MS. CONNORS: Able to separate reality --
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: -- from that?
Okay. And then I know you mentioned that you had a
cousin who was in -- involved in the criminal justice system
at one point.
Did you have any reason to believe that he wasn't
treated fairly?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you so much.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: And let's see. Juror Number 8.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: I believe you said you had a family
member or someone who was in the trucking business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My dad used to drive trucks and
my uncles.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And are they now retired or just
changing professions?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They're deceased now, yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Sorry about that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's Okay.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: And let's see. And Juror Number 10, I
believe you had a family member who owned their own business?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. My uncle did something in
marketing. I'm not a whole lot sure, but he owned his own
marketing firm, I think.
MS. CONNORS: So you don't really have any details
about that business or how it operated, how he ran it?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: None at all.
MS. CONNORS: All right. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: And Juror Number 14.
Ma'am, I know you said you were starting a new job on
Monday; is that right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: We're certainly hoping this trial stays
on track and would be done within five days.
But if it wasn't, would that create problems for you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, it would.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is it one of those things that
if you can't start on Monday, would you not be able to start
with them at all or do you think they would give you
flexibility?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I did notify them already in
case I wasn't pardoned. It's a matter of it's orientation for
a new grad nurses, so they do it in cohorts, like in groups,
so the first week, the first weeks are probably the most
important.
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MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: So if you missed the orientation on say
Monday, would that mean you had to wait until a later
timeframe to do the orientation or would you still be able to
start on Tuesday?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Honestly, I'm not sure, but I
already emailed her.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They are considerate when it
comes to especially things like this, so I just have to wait
to see what they have to say.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. But at least right now, they
haven't given you any feedback to where they'd say like you
couldn't start -- you'd lose that job or anything?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: All right. Juror Number 19.
You are also a fan of crime shows.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Geez. True crime. Not dramas.
MS. CONNORS: True crime, okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't like the dramas.
MS. CONNORS: Obviously that's a little different,
right, than the dramatization type of crime show.
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Anything about watching those that would make you
believe that there is only certain evidence that should be
presented in this case or that you would feel you somehow have
gained additional knowledge?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They're all outdated.
MS. CONNORS: Oh, okay. And I believe you also said
that you may have had some paralegal experience?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: What was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Before I went to nursing school,
I worked for a sole practitioner who realized that he could
bill more for me if I were a paralegal.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And then I went on to a larger
firm after that, but we did insurance defense and contract
law, a little med-mal.
MS. CONNORS: And how long have you been a nurse now?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Since '97.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So this would have been before.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Many years ago.
MS. CONNORS: Before that time.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: And anything about that prior work
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experience that would -- that you think would possibly
interfere or make you expect that there would be certain
things that should happen in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all, no.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then I believe you said your
husband owns his own business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: And what type of business is that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Self-storage development and
management.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is that like putting up those
buildings?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: All over the country as well as
putting in the management teams.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do you know, does he handle
like the day-to-day business operations and payroll?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's COO.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And paperwork and stuff like
that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, he doesn't do the technical
work of submitting the paperwork, but he's the COO and owner.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And they have anywhere between
170 and 180 employees.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Big company, okay. Thank you so
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much.
And I apologize, I skipped ahead. I went to Juror
Number 19 and skipped 17.
I think you said you had some experience as a
paralegal or a family member.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, so it was me.
MS. CONNORS: And do you -- how long ago was that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I was a paralegal for 15
years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And I moved into HR in 2007.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And so since that timeframe, you
haven't -- have you worked at all in the -- for a law firm?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have not.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what type of law did the
firm practice?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I was actually in several
places and I did -- it was everything from criminal defense to
labor and employment.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And in terms of that position,
did you -- did you learn some about criminal cases and --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did.
MS. CONNORS: Were you ever involved in a criminal
trial?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was. I sat with them at the
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MS. CONNORS: Okay. And approximately how many jury
trials do you think you were involved in?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Ten.
MS. CONNORS: And how long were you there, you said
15 years?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was 15 years as a paralegal in
total.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: But in that particular case, I
was with them five years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
Let's see. Juror Number 21 likes crime shows as
well.
Are you on the True Crime side or are you on more of
the CSI and that side?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 48 hours.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So some reality there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: In terms of watching that, is that
something that you regularly watch?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I like my pods.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's a good one.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. In terms of your history of
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watching that show, is there anything about doing that that
would make you feel like there's only certain kinds of
evidence that should be presented or that would make you feel
like there are certain things that would have to happen in
this trial?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Facts.
MS. CONNORS: I'm sorry?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Facts.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. But as -- would you be able to
judge the facts that are presented in this trial and not try
to bring in other facts or potentially something that you've
seen on the -- on 48 Hours before?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I wouldn't.
MS. CONNORS: You would not be able to?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. I'd be able to distinguish
between right and wrong.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So the fact that you watch that
show doesn't mean that you're going to come in and assume that
everything that happened on 48 Hours should happen here?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
All right. Juror Number 25.
Sir, I believe you said that you either had a family
member or someone who owns their own business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
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MS. CONNORS: Okay. Who is that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My best friend, he owns his own
business and he services -- basically, he does financial
planning and insurance catering to those above 40 years old.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I think you also said that
you or someone had experience with payroll?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, with me, since I'm an
athletic director of my school, this is my second stint, but a
couple of years ago, I believe, when I was five years out of
school, I collaborated with our bookkeeper in terms of
providing information for the employees, the other coaches,
who was getting a stipend, how much, et cetera, so...
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Would you also have to deal with
like payroll taxes or anything like that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, the bookkeeper took care of
all of that.
MS. CONNORS: So you're more consulting with them --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: -- than handling everything in the --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: Okay, great.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: And Juror Number 26.
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Sir, I know you said that you worked for Reuters and
I believe you said you do some tax analysis for attorneys, is
that correct, or something around that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I actually work for the parent
company of Reuters, Thompson.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And I don't do analysis. I do
front-end development for tools that we sell to subscribers
who use these tools to do their own tax analysis.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I'm not an attorney or an
accountant, but I work with CPAs and attorneys to create these
tools.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And when you're referring to
those tools, would that be something similar to like
individuals using products like tax apps or TurboTax to file
taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. More sort of business
specific stuff, GAAP, FASB, computation analysis kind of
thing, that kind of thing.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And so companies like a company
like TurboTax would not be a direct competitor of you; is that
right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think we may have a tool that
probably is similar to theirs, but it's -- it may be, you
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know, sort of in a different department.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then I believe you also said
that you had a family member who had their own business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So my wife is a partner in her
practice.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And occasionally we have to deal
with K-1s for various states, but it's pretty sporadic, so...
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So you're helping with some of
the corporate tax returns or at least she has to do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, we just visit an accountant
but we double-check them, so...
MS. CONNORS: Got you.
And then I believe you also indicated that you have
some -- you've had a donation before to --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I donated to the ACLU
awhile ago, not recently.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Okay. Thank you so much.
And then Juror Number 27, I believe, you also
indicated you had some donations.
Was that to ACLU or one of the other organizations?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, I can't remember all the ones
you named, but like prison fellowship.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That was on there, yes, but also
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the ACLU.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is that a regular donation
every year or has it been in the past?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's been sporadic through the
years.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. All right. And I think you also
had a family member or someone who was a business owner?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband and I, he owns his own
real estate development company. We also owned a carpet
company, we sold that, and we have two restaurants.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And so in terms of that, how
many employees do you think y'all have, total?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So the development company
doesn't have any. And the restaurant, I would say, you know,
15.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And in terms of any kind of
payroll, any kind of tax withholdings related to those -- to
the employees, is that something that you or your husband
handle directly?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Neither of us. And I don't know
anything about it.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. You have somebody else handle it
for you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
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Let's see. Juror Number 29. Let's see.
THE COURT: So I think you had a question -- I had
asked about if there was a name change other than marriage?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right. I misspoke. I just meant
for marriage. I shouldn't have raised my number.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Oh, no, not a problem.
And I believe you're a fan of Court TV; is that
right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Court TV, um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So that does broadcast some
actual trials.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MS. CONNORS: In terms of anything that you've seen
through watching that program, do you think it would interfere
in any way with you being able to just keep the facts that
this is what's happening in this trial?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then I believe you had some
experience working for a law firm or a family member had?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had a family member who owns a
law firm in Jefferson, Georgia.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do you know what type of law
they practice?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Family and sex crimes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is that like an immediate
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family member?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's my niece.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I also have a friend who owns a
law firm, but it's for real estate.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And I think you indicated that
you had had an unpleasant experience with a bank or a lender
before?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: With Fairbanks Capital, yes,
unfair practices -- unfair -- I don't know what they call it,
actually, but they were misplacing funds.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Misappropriating funds.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So it almost caused me to go into
foreclosure, so I had to get a lawyer and the whole nine
yards, but ended up suing and won.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So was it that the -- did that
bank ultimately have issues?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. They were involved in a
class action lawsuit.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is there anything about that
experience that you think would prevent you from being a fair
and impartial juror in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: None at all.
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MS. CONNORS: And to be clear, were you on --
you -- it was -- the bank had some activity that then you
were -- the unpleasant part was dealing with the bank?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They tried to put me in
foreclosure when I had actually paid the mortgage, so...
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And were you able to resolve
that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, we -- we ended up -- I
ended up being involved in the class action lawsuit.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Which was won. And they divvied
out, you know, I don't know, $55 million or something like
that. But by the time it trickled down to me, it was very
little. But I had already sold the home before that, you
know, actually happened.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And was that awhile ago or is
this something more recent?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was 2002.
MS. CONNORS: So more than 20 years ago?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then I think you also had a
family member who had their own business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. One of them owns a law
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firm and the other one owns a real estate company.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And I have a lawyer friend who
owns his own law firm, but like I said, it's for real estate.
MS. CONNORS: Okay, great. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
MS. CONNORS: All right. And Juror Number 30, I know
you're currently with Delta.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's correct.
MS. CONNORS: Have you worked in private practice
with a law firm before?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. Before joining Delta, which
was in 2004, I was at Kilpatrick.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Kilpatrick & Cody, I think, when
I joined and changed to Kilpatrick the next day.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. That happens.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: And what type of work were you doing
there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So I was a part of the corporate
practice group, which included both securities and M&A and
just general corporate work.
MS. CONNORS: So then when you went to Delta, you
were pretty much doing the same thing?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right. Yeah, carried it over
into the airline.
MS. CONNORS: Okay, great. Thank you.
Okay. Let's see. Juror Number 32.
And, sir, I believe you said you had a family member
or someone close to you who obtained a PPP loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do you know anything about
the loan or their experience with that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Basically, you know, he got his
own company, so I guess he took a PPP loan out to have extra
money in case we had to go travel somewhere and we didn't have
the funds or somebody would have a flat or somebody wouldn't
have a hat or somebody wouldn't have a shirt or whatever the
case may be, he had -- you know, he had extra for it off of
the money that he got from the PPP loan.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And so were you involved in that
company at all?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I mean, I do work for him.
I referee on the side regularly football and fast pitch
softball.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So during that time, would you
have been -- did you get payroll or anything from him?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, we get paid.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And then I think you also
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indicated that you had family or someone who had law -- legal
experience?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. My cousins, my first
cousins, there's three of them.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And now did they -- have they
ever worked for a law firm or are they represented by a law
firm?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Works, no. My dad works for a
law firm, he's a police officer with Fulton County.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is he still a police officer
with them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. Yes, ma'am.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Let's see. And Juror Number 33, I believe, you
indicated you had a family member or someone close to you who
was a business owner?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, my mother.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what type of business does
she have?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: She would create custom trophy
rings for little league, little league teams.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And was that essentially a small
business, was it her, did she have employees?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it was just her.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And was it -- when you were
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younger living at home, was that what she did, did she run
that business or have any other kind of business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That was her only business.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
And Juror Number 35, I believe you also had some
experience with someone getting a PPP loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I know it's a small business
loan.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I'm not sure if it was a PPP loan
exact, but yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Do you know if it was within the
last five years that they would have gotten the loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, yes.
MS. CONNORS: And I think you'd also responded that
you may have known someone with a government loan, so is that
what you're referring to, the same loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Is it -- and is it a close
family member who got that loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My parents actually. They buy
and sell properties.
MS. CONNORS: And did you really have any in-depth
conversations with them about that loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
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MS. CONNORS: Okay. Do you know anything about it?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Nothing.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And do your parents have
employees or is it just the two of them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, no, they have employees.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Employees.
MS. CONNORS: Do you know approximately how many
employees they have?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I just know it's a couple as
far as like depending on how far the location is. And then
maintenance workers, people who work on the houses and stuff
like that, but not exactly like a certain amount.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And is that the -- I think you
had also responded that you knew -- you had a family member
who owned their own businesses.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Is that the same business?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
Let's see. Juror Number 37, you had some experience
with payroll?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I've actually processed
payroll. And then I've done hiring and training and dealt
with the paperwork, helped assign pay rates and that type of
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MS. CONNORS: Is that current work or is that
something in the past?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That's something in the past.
MS. CONNORS: How long ago has it been?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 2002.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you so much.
And Juror Number 38, you had some -- you had some
prior experience working in at bank or a family member did?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My friend and neighbor, but not
since I've known her since 2016.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. So it's been awhile?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Great. Thank you so much.
Let's see. And Juror Number 39, you also had someone
you knew who worked for a bank.
Is that current or is that something in the past?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, that's in the past. My
brother was the president of a bank in west Georgia.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Not the president, though, of a
bank currently?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Was that many years ago?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About ten years ago.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Thank you.
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Let's see. And Juror Number 40, I think you had some
experience with a PPP loan?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband is a partial owner and
a GC contractor, and they received a PPP loan.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. Did his company have employees?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: Do you know approximately how many?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I think like 20.
MS. CONNORS: All right. Thank you.
And let's see. And Juror Number 42, do you have
experience doing payroll and taxes or is it someone else in
your family?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's me.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. And what kind of experience do
you have?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The general manager of a
construction company, so yeah, I get involved if there's any
complications. A lot of times employees just forget the
clock-ins, so I'm used to calculating hours for them, GPS
coordinates, adjustments and just making sure that information
gets to the actual payroll department that would process it,
but I work hand in hand with them if there are any issues.
MS. CONNORS: Okay. All right. I think that's it
for me, Judge.
THE COURT: Okay. Mr. Finlayson?
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MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
Hi. Good afternoon. I just have a few questions,
because cocounsel here has done a lot of the work, so we'll
try to make it quick.
If I ask you something and you've already answered
it, then, you know, we don't need to go through it again. If
you feel like there's something that was left out or my
question is a little different, then raise your hand or give
me your number.
And we'll do the same thing, like when I go through
my questions, I'll ask for the numbers to come up and then
again we'll try not to repeat and go through the stuff we've
already been through. And again, this shouldn't take long.
You've already been asked, but I'm going to ask it a
little different way.
Anybody know of or done business with Kremkov
Industries, it's a mining company, Kremkov Industries?
FlyingJack Freight and Logistics, anybody done any
business with FlyingJack Freight and Logistics Trucking
Company?
All right. We've asked about PPP loans. Anybody
that hasn't raised their hand about getting a PPP loan? So
we've covered those. Great.
Anybody here apply for a PPP loan and get turned
down?
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Anybody here -- and I know we heard a little bit
about the PPP -- anybody get a PPP loan and have that loan
forgiven, didn't have to pay it back?
Over here, I think. So the people that had PPP
loans, if you know, did they have to pay them back? If they
had to pay them back, raise your hand.
And if they didn't have to pay them back, raise your
hand. And that's forgiven, if your PPP loan was forgiven.
Maybe Number 40.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. It was my husband's
company, though, but I'm pretty sure they didn't have to pay
it back, but it wasn't mine.
MR. FINLAYSON: Yeah. Let's do the mic and let's
slow it down.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. It was my husband's
company that had the PPP loan and they didn't have to pay it
back, but it wasn't my PPP loan, so...
MR. FINLAYSON: So they did not have to pay it back,
it was forgiven?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Correct.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Thank you.
We've asked about people that own their own
businesses. I'm not going to go through all of those again.
The folks that own their own businesses, is there
anybody here who had private investors in their company,
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anybody have private investors?
Number 19. Anybody else? Number 19.
MS. CONNORS: 27.
MR. FINLAYSON: One more. Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm going to ask this a couple of different ways to
see if we can narrow it easiest.
Who here has prepared their own taxes, prepared and
filed their own taxes?
Number 9, Number 12, Number 20, Number 24, Number 25,
26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 37, 38 and 40 and 42 back there.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And 42.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: And 2.
MR. FINLAYSON: And 2.
MS. CONNORS: And 8.
MR. FINLAYSON: And 8.
Okay. Let's try asking it a different way.
Who here has had their taxes prepared by someone
else? Well, that's a bigger number. I don't want to get into
that. I like it the other way. We're going to leave that the
other way. Put it down.
All right. She may have asked this, but who here, if
anybody, has had problems with the IRS or a state department
of revenue?
Okay. Who here has got familiarity with the country
of Ghana, or has a close friend or maybe is from Ghana? Who
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knows something about Ghana? Anybody? Number 11, Number 1,
Number 14. Anybody else?
In this case you're going to learn that Mr. Delano is
originally from Ghana. He's a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Is that going to bother anybody? Is there anybody
here just because of his national origin that can't fairly
judge his case based on the evidence presented in this trial?
Anybody here have knowledge about the operation of
gold mines? Anybody ever worked with a gold mine or know
about the mining industry?
All right. Important question. Anybody who thinks
Mr. Delano is probably guilty just sitting here looking at
him?
Okay. We've asked about connections to people that
have family members that work for law enforcement. We heard
about the young man from Duke.
Is there anybody here that we haven't touched on
already who has a close friend or a family member that works
like for a federal agency, the DEA, the IRS, the FBI, a local
police department or a local sheriff's department?
And these are the people that we haven't touched on
already about these things. Number 9.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Does TSA count?
MR. FINLAYSON: Sure does. Number 10, Number 12, 25,
28, 35. Thank you.
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Anybody here ever work for a prison or a jail,
correctional institution?
Anybody here work as an EMT, a paramedic?
Anybody here ever had to testify as a victim in
court?
And is that something we already went into?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Number 9, Number 17.
Anybody here that was in the military ever serve in a
court-martial proceeding?
Let me ask you this. Who here has been in the
military?
Mr. Lee, Number 3, 39. Just two.
She asked the inverse of this. I'll ask it that way.
Anybody think federal agents, FBI, IRS, anybody think
federal agents or police officers are more believable than a
regular witness?
Mr. Lee? No?
Who here has a bumper sticker on their car or -- it
doesn't have to be on your bumper, who has a sticker on your
car, how about that? Number 19, Number --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: What do you mean by a sticker?
MR. FINLAYSON: A sticker, something that says
something with words or it could convey a message or it could
be a meme as the kids say.
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Would a park sticker count or
something?
MR. FINLAYSON: Something that conveys some type of
message. You're making a statement. It says hi, how are you
doing.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So a university sticker doesn't
count?
MR. FINLAYSON: Sure. We'll take that. Yeah, I'll
take it, unless we get a zillion, and then I don't want it.
We've got Number 19, Number 10, we have 28, we have 29, we
have 32, back there we have some more stickers.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: 41.
MR. FINLAYSON: 41, thank you. All right. We've got
all the stickers.
I think this is kind of an ask, but I'm going to
asking it a little different way.
Mr. Delano is charged with PPP loan fraud, he's
charged with wire fraud on the IRS, he's charged with money
laundering.
Is there anybody here just because of the nature of
the charges cannot fairly judge him and judge this case based
on the facts and the evidence presented in this courtroom?
Because of the nature of the charge, you're like,
wow, I can't do that, is there anybody here that can't do it,
can't be fair and impartial just because of the nature of the
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charges?
Is there anybody sitting here just looking at
Mr. Delano already made up their mind about this case?
Okay. All right. Now I'm going to sit down and I'm
going to ask some follow-ups.
Let's start with the private investor folks.
Number 19.
And, ma'am, you had a private investor in your
company or a company you worked with?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband's company has private
investors.
MR. FINLAYSON: And I know it's private, but does he
still have them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Is it a lot of them or just a
handful?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just a handful.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Do they own a stake in his
company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do they own more than 50 percent of
his company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: How often does he meet with those
folks?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: At least once a month.
MR. FINLAYSON: And do they tell him what to do or
does he tell them what to do or a little bit of both?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's very dynamic, they tell each
other.
MR. FINLAYSON: And in terms -- I'm sorry, I know --
and by the way, if we get to the point where we want to take
this offline, we can.
But are we talking they've invested millions?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. And I assume he has to pay
them back in some way or at some point?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. It wasn't a loan, it's
ownership.
MR. FINLAYSON: It's ownership.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: So is there stock?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Is there -- okay. Thank you.
Number 27. And, ma'am, you mentioned you have
private investors.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, my husband's company.
MR. FINLAYSON: Your husband's company. Is that in
the restaurants?
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MR. FINLAYSON: So does he build out -- is it --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He builds apartments.
MR. FINLAYSON: Apartments, okay. And how many
investors approximately does he have?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: That, I wouldn't know. It
wouldn't be a lot in the apartments and the same with the
restaurants, but the restaurants are a lot less, the
investments are much smaller.
MR. FINLAYSON: With the apartments, are we talking
about millions?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And do they -- does your husband own
the majority, has he got the 51 percent or do they have it?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's majority.
MR. FINLAYSON: And how often does he meet with those
folks?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Often. I can't tell you exactly
how often.
MR. FINLAYSON: And is it a dynamic relationship or
does it --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. There's give and take?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Is he the boss?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He's the chief operating officer.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
All right. We talked about filing taxes or I asked
about filing taxes and we're going to go through those numbers
because they're fewer.
Number 9.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: You, sir, have -- do you file your
own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not anymore. I did when I was
younger.
MR. FINLAYSON: And now you pay someone?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. Now I get them done.
MR. FINLAYSON: Say again.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Now they're getting done by a
professional.
MR. FINLAYSON: Right. Now, when you did your own,
did you -- you probably -- back in our day, we didn't have
Intuit, but back in the -- did you do it with TurboTax or just
do it by hand?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just do it by hand.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Anybody teach you how to do
that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My dad.
MR. FINLAYSON: Nice. That's all.
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Number 12, similar questions, you do -- you do your
own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you use a program to do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you always done it through that
program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. I've had assistance. It
depends on how complicated the tax return is.
MR. FINLAYSON: So if they're complicated, you had
somebody do it for you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. And is that -- does that just
depend on the year or how do you decide?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, it depends on the year.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you ever done them yourself
through TurboTax?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not Turbo, no.
MR. FINLAYSON: Not --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not Turbo.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. You used another program to --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Which programs have you used?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Primarily H&R Block. And if I
need assistance, I go to an H&R Block store.
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MR. FINLAYSON: Ah. And current years, are you
having somebody do them for you, or are you --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Myself.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Have you ever had somebody
else do them for you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Like a person do a handwritten
tax --
MR. FINLAYSON: Yeah, and they file it, too.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. It's either H&R Block
professionals at a store or myself.
MR. FINLAYSON: Got it. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Uh-huh.
MR. FINLAYSON: Number 20.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, sir.
MR. FINLAYSON: And you've done your own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do. I use TurboTax. I invest
in crypto and have a small social media channel that makes
some money, so instead of paying other folks, they -- a lot of
times they didn't seem to understand the crypto world or
social media, so I started learning to do it myself.
MR. FINLAYSON: That makes many people -- so you
invest in crypto. And that -- I guess the gains on that are
respect --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, the way it moves around
and, you know, sometimes you do micro transactions, hours,
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days. And when you bring that to an accounting firm, you may
have 20,000 transactions, and it gets really complex for them,
I guess. It's gotten better now, but I've been doing crypto
for about ten years. And going to a law firm or an accounting
firm, they were -- they wouldn't even touch it a lot of times.
MS. CONNORS: Gotcha. And you mentioned you have a
small social media company?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And what does that company do?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just mostly YouTube videos and
Instagram posts. It's cars, like restoring cars, repair.
MR. FINLAYSON: Oh, cool. What's it called?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: One's 240SX forums, like the
Nissan. And the other one is the Corvette, ATL Sedan
Corvette.
MR. FINLAYSON: And you have to do tax returns for
those businesses?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. They earn money so we have
to file taxes.
MR. FINLAYSON: How many employees do you have?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's just me. We have 50,000
users or so, but...
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MR. FINLAYSON: So Number 24, we have, 24 does taxes?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Right over here.
MR. FINLAYSON: Oh, I'm sorry. You do your own
taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: For the last three years, prior
to -- I'm sorry.
MR. FINLAYSON: That's all right, ma'am.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: For the last three years, I've
done them on my own. Prior to that, I was taking them to H&R
Block.
MR. FINLAYSON: Now, when you do them on your own, do
you use a program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, FreeTaxUSA.
MR. FINLAYSON: How long does it take you
approximately to get that all through?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About an hour. It's very user
friendly, very simple, the prompts, it's super easy to use.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You're welcome.
MR. FINLAYSON: 25, you file your own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I file my own taxes. I've been
doing it for 15 years. And prior to that, I did it for H&R
Block -- or I did it with H&R Block when I lived in Florida,
so...
MR. FINLAYSON: And do you use a program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: TurboTax.
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MR. FINLAYSON: And about how long does it take you
to do yours?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Couple hours.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
26, you do your own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I haven't done them in about 15
years, but I did prior to that.
MR. FINLAYSON: Why did you stop?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They got dramatically more
complicated.
MR. FINLAYSON: That makes sense.
Now, when you did them yourself, would you do them by
hand or did you use a program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, by hand.
MR. FINLAYSON: And now you have an accountant do
them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: That's fine. That's all.
Number 28. Go to 29. You're good.
You do your own taxes, ma'am?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have.
MR. FINLAYSON: And would you do them by hand or use
a program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I've done both.
MR. FINLAYSON: What did you do most recently?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: TurboTax.
MR. FINLAYSON: About how long does it take?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Depending on if I make any
mistakes, probably around two hours.
MR. FINLAYSON: If you make mistakes, what happens?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I go back and correct them,
because I check myself and the computer checks me as well.
MR. FINLAYSON: It kicks it back to you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: And then back in the day, you did
them by hand?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. Way back in the day, it's
been some years.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, ma'am.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: You're welcome.
MR. FINLAYSON: Number 30.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, sorry, yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: You do your own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you still do them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Through calendar year -- fiscal
year '24, yes. I still haven't for '25.
MR. FINLAYSON: October -- you've got an extension to
October?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, no. I'm current, but...
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MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. All right. So have you done
them by hand the old school way?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's been a long time, early
adopter of the electronic version.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you use TurboTax?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I use TurboTax, yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And about how long does it take you
to go through that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About five hours.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MR. FINLAYSON: 31. You do your own taxes, sir?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do.
MR. FINLAYSON: And do you do them with a program or
do you do them by hand?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: A program.
MR. FINLAYSON: And which program do you use?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: H&R Block.
MR. FINLAYSON: And about how long does it take you
to do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Two hours.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you ever done them by hand, the
old-fashioned way?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did, yes, but not here in the
U.S.
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MR. FINLAYSON: And where did you do them by hand?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: France.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Thank you.
MR. FINLAYSON: Number 33, you've done your own
taxes, ma'am?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And did you do them by hand or with
TurboTax or which way?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Used H&R Block.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. H&R Block. And about how long
did that take you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hour and a half, two hours.
MR. FINLAYSON: Did you ever do them by hand?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: No. Number 34, have you done your
taxes yourself?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have.
MR. FINLAYSON: And did you do them by hand or with
TurboTax or some kind of program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: TurboTax and TaxAct.
MR. FINLAYSON: And about how long does it take you
to do them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About an hour and a half.
MR. FINLAYSON: And have you ever done them by hand,
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, ma'am.
37, you've done your own taxes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I did my own before I got
married. And then my husband and I do them together now.
MR. FINLAYSON: And does he -- do y'all do them with
a program?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm, TurboTax and H&R Block.
MR. FINLAYSON: And about how long does it take you?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Hour and a half, two hours.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you. All right. I think we
have enough on that.
I asked about who was familiar and if I didn't get to
you, I apologize, but I think I've got enough sense of it that
I can go to the next question.
I asked about Ghana, who was familiar with Ghana.
And I was curious about who and how and sort of what the
context was, so Number 11.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. I do have friends from
Ghana.
MR. FINLAYSON: And in the Atlanta area?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And do you talk to them -- do you
talk to them about the country much or --
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Well, I mean, yeah. We do
exchange pleasantries from time to time, catching up. Yeah,
just -- you know, just typical friendly chat. It could be
about, you know, our countries, personal, you know, personal
life, just whatever, really.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you -- have you ever been to
Ghana?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have not.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you know much about like the
geology or do you know much about like -- do you know if
they've got gold in Ghana?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, I do know that.
MS. CONNORS: Did you ever talk to your friends
about -- do they know anything about the mines in Ghana?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Probably just seeing stuff
on social media.
MR. FINLAYSON: I'm sorry, say that one more time.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I've probably seen stuff off of
social media.
MR. FINLAYSON: And really what kind of stuff?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just Ghana mines and stuff like
that.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
Number 1. You know somebody from Ghana or you know
about Ghana?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And tell us about that.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have somebody I work with
that's from Ghana. And I know a couple of people who are from
Ghana.
MR. FINLAYSON: And did you talk -- what do you hear
about Ghana? What do you know about Ghana?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: The people who moved there, I
haven't talked to them since they left.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Other than the person you work
with, what's the business they work in?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We do sewer bypasses.
MR. FINLAYSON: So are these -- are these contractors
or --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, it's a -- he's one -- he used
to be one of my foremen, but he changed to a different
position.
MR. FINLAYSON: Did -- do you know much about the
culture or the people or the --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No, I -- I know -- I can't say I
know a lot. We have conversations about when his family moved
over here from Ghana. It's typically the same story that you
hear from people who move from other American countries,
nothing good or bad, just how their family came over here and
they came with them. A lot of them went to school here. And
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they left probably when they was nine or ten and spent the
majority of their time over here.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: And I had Number 14; is that right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And, ma'am, you know somebody from
Ghana or you know about Ghana?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. I'm Nigerian. I have
Ghanaian friends, people I went to school and graduated with.
MR. FINLAYSON: Did you talk to them about their
country or did --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Everything like superficial, we
talk about food, culture, things like that.
MR. FINLAYSON: And are these people in the nursing
world?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: The people that you work with, do
they have families still back in Ghana or do you know?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: So if you're referring to my new
job, my current job, I haven't started working yet, so...
MR. FINLAYSON: People in school.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: People in school, yeah. They --
like I've gone to school with other Ghanaian students,
whatever, all different types of majors, yeah.
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MR. FINLAYSON: You've never been there?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: You mentioned you're Nigerian.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: Have you been to Nigeria?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: When I was a child last.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Moving on, I asked about law
enforcement officers, and if we've already covered you in
that -- that relationship or that person, you don't have to
tell me again, like our friend from Duke here.
But if we haven't covered it and like there's like a
local police, sheriff or a deputy or a local police or, you
know, some law enforcement connection, and I'm going to read
the numbers, but if we haven't, that's what I'm looking for,
so...
I've got Number 9.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, my dad was a police officer.
MR. FINLAYSON: And where, sir?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Muskogee, Oklahoma.
MR. FINLAYSON: And did you talk with him about his
cases?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did -- yeah, with everything
else we talked about, everything else other than that when I
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was young.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. So there's going to be some
law enforcement in this case testifying obviously.
Is that going to affect you, the fact that your dad
was an officer, are you going to have -- is it going to affect
you in any way?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: You're not going to be like more for
them than me because of that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Thank you, sir.
Number 10.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: You had a law enforcement connection.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, my dad's a TSA officer.
MR. FINLAYSON: That's right. Do you ever talk to
him about his work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Occasionally, when he comes back
and complains about it.
MR. FINLAYSON: Of course, that's what we do.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: So we don't have any TSA in this
case, but we have FBI and the IRS and those kind of folks.
Is that going to affect you because your dad is in
the business, if you will?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Probably not, nobody.
MR. FINLAYSON: Probably not or not?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Nah.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. You can -- all right. Thank
you. Number 12, law enforcement?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. My first cousin is a
Lowndes County sheriff officer.
MR. FINLAYSON: Lowndes County?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: Valdosta?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you talk to your cousin about the
work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Sometimes.
MR. FINLAYSON: And what type of work do they do?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I mean, he started off as like a
correction officer. And I helped him, you know, along the
process to become a sheriff officer, so...
MR. FINLAYSON: Like with applications and stuff?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. And he had to come up here
for some type of evaluation and those type of things.
MR. FINLAYSON: So you do talk somewhat about the
work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: And what's he doing now?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He is still a -- so he does
traffic patrol, if that's what you're asking.
MR. FINLAYSON: That's what I'm asking, yes, ma'am.
So traffic control, like on the interstate and that
kind of stuff?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: So he'll probably do some big drug
cases sometimes, I'll bet.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: From time to time, he'll have a
number of things. Not necessarily just drugs, it depends on
the day, I guess.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. How will it affect you if
you've got a case law enforcement testifying against my
client, how is it going to affect you sitting on a jury
knowing, you know -- knowing what you know about your cousin
and his work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I mean, I'm here to do my civic
duty, so I wouldn't say that it would affect me.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. You can -- you can keep those
separate?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Thank you.
Number 25, you have a connection to law enforcement,
sir?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I do. I have an old friend of
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mine from high school, he was a police officer with
Cobb County for seven, eight years. And I want to say about
three or four years ago, he transferred to Henry County.
MR. FINLAYSON: All right. Where did you go to high
school?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Wheeler, Marietta.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Did you talk to him about his
cases?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Never.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
29, and you've got some --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My husband's nieces and nephews,
one of them works for the GBI, the other one works for -- was
just recently promoted to chief of police in Jonesboro, which
is in Clayton County. And then I have one that works for DNR.
And my niece's husband is an investigator for Jefferson County
police.
MR. FINLAYSON: My goodness.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Or Jefferson, the City of
Jefferson, I'm sorry.
MR. FINLAYSON: Is this the same -- you have
plumbers, too, is it the same side?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. Well, it's staggering, these
are on both sides.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Do you talk -- you've got a
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lot of people here. Do you talk to them, have you talked to
any of them about their work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just casual conversation, not any
specifics on any case, except for the chief of police, just
recently, he chased somebody down into Griffin and there was
some shots exchanged, but the person ended up taking their own
life before the police got to him.
MR. FINLAYSON: What's the GBI agent, what do they
investigate?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: They do everything, actually. A
lot of -- a lot of drug cases, a lot of chasing of criminals
that are on the run. And we don't get into specifics, but she
has told me on occasion that she's, you know, working on a
case and that she's looking for somebody.
MR. FINLAYSON: How will it affect you when law
enforcement is asked questions --
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not at all.
MR. FINLAYSON: Not at all? Are you sure of that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Oh, I'm positive.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
Number 35, and do you have some connection to law
enforcement?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: My dad is a retired officer for
DeKalb County.
MR. FINLAYSON: How long was he there?
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Maybe like 15 years.
MR. FINLAYSON: Did you grow up in DeKalb County?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Where did you go to high school?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Lithonia High.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Did you talk to your dad about
his work?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It depends. On like real
stressful days, then, yeah, he would talk about it. But then
if it was like an easy week, then no.
MR. FINLAYSON: So if he was stressed out, he would
tell you about it?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I had no choice, but yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: That's what happens. And what kind
of cases did he do?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I don't know. I heard a little
bit of everything, so, I mean, I don't know.
MR. FINLAYSON: Was he uniform?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Was he driving as a patrol officer?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: East precinct, I want to say.
MR. FINLAYSON: So was he driving patrol?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: And how long did he do that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: About 15 years.
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MR. FINLAYSON: Same question I've been asking.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: Is it going to affect you when you
hear an officer or IRS agent or FBI officer or GBI officer get
up there and testify?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: You can keep those things separate?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Um-hmm.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
I asked about a -- people testifying as a victim in
court. If we've already covered it, we don't need to go
through it again. And I apologize if I don't remember.
Number, I had 29.
We already went into it, right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. I was convicted of a crime
for a property crime. I had to go to court and testify.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Thank you. Number 9.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes. We have not talked about
it.
THE COURT: Hold on. Hold on. We've got to make a
record. You have got to wait and speak into the microphone
clearly.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We have not talked about it.
MR. FINLAYSON: Can you talk about it now?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. When I worked at the bank,
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we were robbed three times, so I had to go in and testify when
they finally caught them.
MR. FINLAYSON: Same guy rob you-all three times?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was a little group, one adult,
a lot of minors.
MR. FINLAYSON: So you got on the witness stand and
identified them?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: We never had to -- I didn't have
to make it that far. But we went to court and I think they
settled --
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: -- before.
MR. FINLAYSON: Would that affect you in this
process?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No. No, sir.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
And Number 17.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, hello.
MR. FINLAYSON: Hello. So you had to testify as a
victim?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did.
MR. FINLAYSON: And is that -- have we covered that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was a domestic situation.
MR. FINLAYSON: So you got on the witness stand
and --
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PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I did.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. Would that affect you in what
we're doing here in this case?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
MR. FINLAYSON: Are you sure?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Positive.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you. Number 29, did you have
to get up and testify in court?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: That's fine. That's all I've got.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes, thank you.
I asked about the military. Mr. Lee, you were in the
military?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. 40 years ago, I was in.
MR. FINLAYSON: I'm sorry, one second.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. I served in the Korean
military 40 years ago.
MR. FINLAYSON: That was mandatory, right?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It was mandatory, yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: And what was your job in the
military?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I got just basic training for
three months and then kind of working in the office. Yeah.
Writing some kind of report.
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MR. FINLAYSON: What's that?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Writing up something on a report,
yeah.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
And then Number 39, you were in the military, sir?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes, I was.
MR. FINLAYSON: And thank you, sir. What did you do
in the military? What was your job?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Initially, I was in signals
intelligence, intercepting communications, I basically went
into human intelligence, excuse me. Went to German language
school. I was a German linguist overseas and I screened
refugees, did basic intelligence-gathering type services, but
not since 1995.
MR. FINLAYSON: That was my next question. What are
the dates we were looking at?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah, 1978 to around 1995.
MR. FINLAYSON: What was your rank when you left?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I was a sergeant first class, E7.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
Bumper stickers, Number 19 -- or stickers, car
stickers. What does yours say?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: It's for Pearl River Outdoors,
they make outdoor equipment.
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apologize, I'm going to be jumping out of order on these.
Number 10.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yeah. So I'm still practicing in
my granddad's old car. Does that count?
MR. FINLAYSON: Sure.
THE COURT: Yeah.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: He was a Vietnam Veteran, so he's
got the I served in Vietnam sticker. I think he's got a John
Galt sticker, but I don't remember.
MR. FINLAYSON: Do you know what that means?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Not a clue.
MR. FINLAYSON: You should look it up. All right.
Thank you.
Number -- let's see if I can keep it closer. I
probably can't. We're going over here, 28.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: I have a university sticker, it
says Cornell University.
MR. FINLAYSON: Nice. Thank you. 29?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Mine just states in loving memory
of Andrew Drake and his date of birth.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you. Number 32?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: BS18, the speakers in my trunk.
MR. FINLAYSON: You've got to say that again. I
can't hear you.
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trunk, and then I've got I love HBCU.
MR. FINLAYSON: I see. Thank you.
And Number 41.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Navy vet.
MR. FINLAYSON: Say again.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Navy vet.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you. Thank you. Love it.
Your Honor, that's all my questions.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. We're going to give
you-all a short break while we talk for about five minutes
ourselves. Then we are going to come back in here and we are
going to get most of you out of here very quickly.
Yes, sir?
MR. FINLAYSON: I hate to ask, but can I get a
15-minute break before we strike?
THE COURT: We're going to take a 10-minute break,
maybe a 15-minute break, but most of you-all are going to be
gone within 30 minutes.
Okay?
So hold on. Should you talk about this case at all
amongst yourselves?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: No.
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Yes.
THE COURT: No. Did I hear somebody say yes?
PROSPECTIVE JUROR: Just kidding.
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THE COURT: No. You can't talk about this amongst
yourselves and come back to be the same place.
All right?
Thank you.
(Whereupon, the jurors exited the courtroom.)
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, Judge. I might be able to
do it quicker.
THE COURT: That's Okay.
MS. CONNORS: Your Honor, are we good for us to --
THE COURT: No, I'm going to talk for a second.
MS. CONNORS: Okay.
THE COURT: I just want to make sure that we're all
on the same page about a couple of things.
All right. As we've already discussed, we struck
Juror 4, Juror 18, Juror 22 and Juror 28.
Is that what you-all have as well?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes, sir.
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. And are there any other additional
motions for cause based upon anything y'all have heard since
then?
MR. FINLAYSON: Unfortunately, no.
MS. CONNORS: Not for the government, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. Then we will be striking our
jurors, we will be striking from the first 28; is that right?
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Yes, 28.
We're going to strike 12, and you each have 6 -- you
have a total of 16 strikes, right?
MR. FINLAYSON: I'm lost already. I'm sorry.
Wouldn't it be 29 since 28 is gone?
THE COURT: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say it that
way. Yes.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay.
THE COURT: So it will go through -- so let me do the
math. We have 16 strikes, we need 12 jurors, that's 28.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay. 32.
THE COURT: So it will go through 32. Okay?
So if you-all use all of your strikes, your jury will
be the first 12 of those that are not struck.
Okay. Make sense?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yeah.
THE COURT: And then you'll have two more -- one more
strike each to strike from the next four.
Okay?
Unless one of you doesn't use all of your strikes,
then we'll -- the jury -- then the alternate will come from
that point.
Everybody understand that?
MR. FINLAYSON: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Okay. We'll be back in 10 or 12 minutes.
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Okay?
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you.
THE COURT: I'm going to give you as much time as I
can.
And then I'm going to bring the jury in and you're
going to strike in front of them.
And, again, you can turn around so you can see. And
you don't have to talk to me. You've just got to pass the
page back and forth.
Okay?
Thank you.
MS. CONNORS: Thank you.
(Whereupon, a recess was taken.)
THE COURT: Okay. Y'all ready?
MS. CONNORS: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. You can bring them in.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors entered the
courtroom.)
THE COURT: Anybody think somebody's missing?
Okay. All right. Now all you-all do and all I do is
sit here and let the lawyers do some things back and forth
with each other to strike the jury.
Okay?
Go ahead, y'all. Ms. Kelley.
Speaking to the lawyers for this case, does the
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United States have any objection to the exercise of strikes by
the defendant?
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Mr. Finlayson, do you have any objection
as to the manner in which the government exercised its
strikes?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. Then we'll just take a minute and
we will read out the names.
Let me know, Ms. Kelley, when you're ready and no
pressure.
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Do you want me to just go ahead
and start calling them?
THE COURT: Okay. Yes. She's ready to announce the
names of the jurors who will be serving on this jury. So if
you hear your name, come on up and you can take a seat in the
jury box.
And you-all can go sit in the back row, if you want,
or you can go back here or you can do whatever you want.
Okay?
All right. So please stand if you hear your name
called and come on up here into the jury box.
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Terrell Salaam.
Laura DeWeese.
Je'Tavia Parks.
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Juanneeka Smith.
Patricia King.
Yolanda Ogedengbe.
Dennis Hunter.
Dustin Luckie.
Melissa Okorie.
April Carlock.
Kathleen Oleary.
Kamal Mourad.
Shelby Dean.
Any objection by either party to the jury as seated?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, Your Honor.
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. Speaking to everybody
else, you-all are released from your call in this case. I
want to thank you for coming here today and spending most of
the day with us.
Do they need to go back to the jury office,
Ms. Kelley?
COURTROOM DEPUTY: They just need to call back, I
think.
THE COURT: Okay. You don't have to go there today,
but you still have to call back in.
Okay?
I'm not aware of another trial going on this week or
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next, so fingers crossed for you-all, but you do need to
continue calling, but thank you very much for coming today and
you-all are released.
(Whereupon, the prospective jurors exited the
courtroom.)
THE COURT: All right. Speaking to everybody else,
you are the jury that will hear this case.
Okay?
We're not going to do much more today. I'm going to
talk with you about some housekeeping matters and then I'm
going to let you-all be done for the day and we're going to
start tomorrow.
Okay?
Let me ask you-all a couple of things. My preference
is to start at either 8:30 or 9:00 in the morning and go to
4:30 or 5:00 in the evening.
Is there anybody who feels strongly about either of
those two start times 8:30 or 9:00? Anybody who thinks they
would have trouble getting here by 8:30 and would rather do
9:00?
All right. Well, then let's do 8:30.
Okay?
And that means we'll stop every day at 4:30, but it
means you have to be here at 8:30, because if you're not, then
we can't start until everyone is here.
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Okay?
So when you're done with us today, the court security
officer is going to show you back into the jury room behind
me.
Okay?
And he's also going to show you how to get back to
the elevator from there, which includes walking down this
hallway this way, okay, on the other side of this wall.
So tomorrow when you come in, you will just come in
the back way and meet in the jury room.
Okay?
They'll have coffee; is that right?
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Yes.
THE COURT: And some kind of snacks?
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Hopefully, it will be by 8:30.
It's a little early for the folks to bring that up. They
usually bring it up around 8:30, so...
THE COURT: Well, let's tell them we're starting at
8:30, so we've got to have it by 8:15. If that doesn't work,
maybe we'll go back to 9:00.
Okay?
But they should have coffee for you and some type of
snacks, so just meet up in there and then we'll get you in and
ready to go at 8:30.
Tomorrow we're going to start off with having you
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sworn in, it's a different oath, it's an oath to try this case
in the appropriate way.
Then I am going to give you five or six minutes of
jury instructions, about how to behave as jurors, what to
expect over the next couple of days. And then we're going to
jump right into the parties giving you their opening
statements, and then straight into witnesses, so you'll start
to hear about the case tomorrow.
Okay?
Any questions or thoughts or concerns from anybody?
Anything y'all want to bring up?
Okay. So now you still don't know anything about the
case, right, you cannot talk with anybody about it.
Okay?
When you go home and you talk to your friends or
people you live with and they ask you about it, all you can
say is it's a criminal case. That's all you can say.
Right?
It's a criminal case. And they say what's it about,
you have to say I can't tell you. Well, is it bank robbery.
I can't tell you.
Okay?
Say that Judge seemed like he's nice, but he told me
I can't. I don't want to see what he's like when he's mean.
Okay?
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And the reason is if you tell them even a little
thing, what do you know now, you know that this has something
to do with fraud and you've heard something about the PPP
program or something like that.
You say something like that and all of a sudden
somebody is sharing with you something that they heard or they
think or they know and now you're being impacted by something
else.
Okay?
You might think you can keep an open mind, but
somebody is going to give you an opinion or a thought and
that's not fair to either of the parties. They're going to
give you everything that you need to decide this case. And
you will not be able to rely upon anything other than what you
hear in this courtroom.
Okay?
I'll give you more instructions about this tomorrow.
Don't do any research. Don't Google what's the PPP, don't
Google what is fraud, don't Google anything whatsoever.
Okay?
We will give you everything you are supposed to know
about this case. If you go home and you do any research
whatsoever, you'll be violating that very, very important
rule, that you let the parties and the rules of evidence give
you everything that you need to know to decide this case.
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All right? Any questions or concerns about that?
Anybody have somebody at home who's particularly
nosey?
All right. Okay. Anything else from the parties?
Anything you want me to say to them before we let them go for
the day?
MR. FINLAYSON: No, sir.
MS. CONNORS: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Then we are going to excuse
you for the day, ready to go -- my father I told you was in
the Marine Corps. And whenever we would go someplace he would
say we're leaving at 7:00, having had. Which means if you
want to have extra sleep time, have that. If you want to have
coffee, or you want to have a shower, have all of that. If
you want to have a snack, have all of that. But that's got to
have happened before 8:30 in the morning.
Okay?
So we're going to start at 8:30, having had, okay?
All right. Thank you-all very much.
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER: All rise.
JUROR: Do we take these?
THE COURT: You can leave those there. They will be
back there tomorrow and we'll talk more about them. Thank
you. Oh, yes. Leave your numbers, either here or in the back
room, and we'll collect them from you. You wouldn't need them
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anymore.
COURTROOM DEPUTY: Thanks.
THE COURT: Yes. Sorry about that.
(Whereupon, the jurors exited the courtroom.)
THE COURT: Okay. Y'all can be seated.
Any questions? Anything y'all want to talk about?
MR. FINLAYSON: Your Honor, I do have one matter.
Mr. Delano is in shackles and that may be the Court's standard
procedure in every trial. But it's a white collar fraud case,
there's been no evidence or allegation that he's dangerous,
there's no convictions for violence. I just -- I guess for
the record, I would object to him being in shackles for the
trial.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: I guess there's -- there should be
some kind of showing to justify it.
THE COURT: They're not visible because we have the
skirts around all of the tables, so it just looks normal.
I don't -- I don't have any concern about it. But I
don't make that rule. I let our marshals and our CSOs decide
the way that they do it here. It's important to me that the
jury not know. But the marshals are in charge of security
with the CSOs.
So why don't you talk with them about it and see what
they think, but I have to -- I'm going to defer to them.
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Okay?
But is there a time when you think it would impact or
might cause problems with the jury?
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, I think -- I mean, I appreciate
the skirts. I was sort of surprised to see them, I was like
is this a Gangster Disciples trial? But it's standing up,
they're doing their best to hide it, but just you stand
differently, I can -- I can -- I am probably tuned into it too
much now, but when he stands up and when we're turning,
it's -- he's just not -- he's not moving like a normal person
might move.
THE COURT: I have not noticed it. This is the first
I've heard of it.
MR. FINLAYSON: And I didn't want to bring it up
before, but I do --
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. FINLAYSON: I just don't think -- I think there's
got to be a show cause to justify it. And I don't -- unless
there's something that I'm missing.
THE COURT: All right. Well, why don't you email me.
If there's some rule about that, email it to me.
Okay?
This is the first time hearing of it.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay.
THE COURT: I tend to let the marshals and CSOs
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decide things about that because they're more informed than I
am, but if they're --
MARSHAL: I can speak on it real fast, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yes, go ahead.
MARSHAL: We have to do it as standard operating
procedure for all security purposes. I understand he may not
be as much of a threat as any other defendant, however, we
can't treat him any differently as to any other defendant.
MR. FINLAYSON: Well, then I guess I would inquire as
to every trial, every trial that somebody is in custody,
they're in shackles?
MARSHAL: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: So if you think there's some rule about
it, bring it to my attention.
Okay?
But other than that, you have to talk to them to see
if there is some exception for them.
Okay?
MR. FINLAYSON: All right.
THE COURT: All right. Anything else?
MS. CONNORS: I'm not sure if we were going to follow
up today or tomorrow about the transcript issue?
THE COURT: I'm going to read that tonight.
MR. FINLAYSON: Okay.
THE COURT: And we'll follow-up on that afterwards.
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Okay?
And I think y'all should be thinking about the jury
instructions already. I know we haven't started with anything
yet, but probably not tomorrow, but probably the next day,
Wednesday afternoon, depending on how it's going, we're going
to start talking jury instructions.
I've got them from you and I'm working through them.
I think there was some concerns about some of them, but I
think those had -- some of them, at least, were the aggregate
identity theft instructions that don't matter anymore.
MS. CONNORS: That's correct, Your Honor.
And when you're going through them, you can see there
were just a few instructions --
THE COURT: Yes.
MS. CONNORS: -- where we have actually got two
Supreme Court cases that were affecting the instructions at
that point, but obviously, the Dubin case is not going to be
at issue anymore since the ag ID was dismissed.
THE COURT: Okay. All right. So that's what we will
take up tomorrow at 8:30.
You-all have our contact information, right? If
something happens in the interim, then you-all let me know and
I'll tell you to be here at probably 8:00 tomorrow, but if
not, remember, 8:30 is having had. That means the jury comes
at 8:30, the jury comes out.
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Okay?
MR. FINLAYSON: Can we take bets?
THE COURT: On what?
MR. FINLAYSON: Whether one of them is late.
THE COURT: Yes. But let's let them be the late one.
And by the way, I have coffee back there if you-all want a cup
tomorrow, you can help yourself to it. The only thing I ask
is you have to clean your own glass. I'll give you the
coffee, but I won't clean up.
Okay?
All right. Thank you all.
MS. CONNORS: Thank you, Your Honor.
MR. FINLAYSON: Thank you, sir.
(Whereupon, the proceedings were adjourned at 3:46
p.m.)
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REPORTERS CERTIFICATE
I, Jana B. Colter, Official Court Reporter for the
United States District Court for the Northern District of
Georgia, with offices at Atlanta, do hereby certify:
That I reported on the Stenograph machine the
proceedings held in open court on July 21, 2025, in the matter
of United States of America v. Carl Delano Torjagbo also known
as Karl Lucius Delano, case Number 1:22-CR-00171-MLB; that
said proceedings in connection with the hearing were reduced
to typewritten form by me; and that the foregoing transcript
is a true and accurate record of the proceedings.
This the 10th day of November, 2025.
_______________________________
/s/ Jana B. Colter, FAPR, RDR, CRR, CRC
Official Court Reporter
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36 [2] 155/15155/25
37 [9] 82/12107/21107/22118/2122/4
156/2177/21182/10198/4
38 [5] 118/2118/7118/10178/8182/10
39 [4] 118/2178/15184/13212/5
3:46 [1] 229/15
3rd [1] 12/17
4
40 [20] 83/12118/2121/2121/12121/12
121/22122/2122/4122/14122/14123/5
123/9137/10137/22166/4179/1181/9
182/10211/15211/18
404 [9] 2/2317/1419/320/124/124/325/4
25/927/20
41 [4] 140/24185/12185/13214/3
42 [7] 122/3122/4122/4122/14179/10
182/10182/11
43 [1] 156/2
48 [3] 164/17165/12165/19
4:30 [2] 220/16220/23
5
50 percent [1] 186/21
50,000 [1] 192/21
500 [2] 15/315/3
51 [1] 140/21
51 percent [1] 188/14
52 [1] 52/2
55 [2] 71/1676/23
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56 [1] 131/8
5:00 [1] 220/16
7
75 [1] 2/22
7:00 [1] 224/12
8
8:00 [1] 228/23
8:15 [1] 221/19
8:30 [14] 220/15220/18220/19220/21
220/24221/15221/17221/19221/24
224/16224/18228/20228/24228/25
9
90 [1] 1/4
97.5 [1] 73/9
97.9 [1] 76/8
98.5 [1] 80/1
99 [1] 97/25
99.7 [1] 80/1
9:00 [4] 220/15220/18220/20221/20
9:30 [1] 4/19
9th [1] 14/12
A
ABC [1] 52/8
ability [34] 31/831/2249/2250/1155/7
72/473/1276/1179/1180/786/1292/17
93/494/794/1095/196/19100/23102/10
104/7105/18106/2107/15108/7110/7
110/24111/1119/6119/14136/21146/25
150/20151/6152/7
able [23] 10/922/2022/2542/1742/20
46/23102/15116/15146/13147/1152/4
153/22154/3157/25159/18160/5165/9
165/14165/15170/15172/8215/6223/14
about [324]
above [1] 166/4
absolutely [3] 59/1059/17107/1
abundance [1] 149/6
Academy [1] 136/16
accident [3] 23/2056/2557/3
accidental [1] 23/16
according [1] 15/24
account [7] 19/2127/14105/3105/7
130/17134/11143/14
accountable [1] 30/1
accountant [9] 84/12123/3129/25130/6
130/8132/20167/12168/11194/15
accountants [1] 74/6
accounted [1] 115/24
accounting [5] 73/22132/6145/24192/1
192/4
accounts [3] 134/12137/14144/18
accurate [1] 230/13
accused [25] 35/1144/1345/1948/13
49/1053/1159/270/2371/2075/776/10
77/779/2380/692/392/893/1795/2095/22
96/10100/2101/16106/15107/25109/3
ACLU [6] 123/21147/8147/14168/16
168/21169/1
acquisition [3] 25/225/2058/6
across [2] 15/315/4
Act [1] 11/2
action [3] 2/4171/21172/11
activities [1] 129/25
activity [5] 17/24132/2132/4144/11
172/2
actual [5] 9/510/12134/12170/11179/21
actually [23] 9/510/222/2024/2345/3
56/156/366/1477/2295/2398/8100/8
106/19154/1163/17167/4171/11172/7
172/17176/21177/23207/10228/15
ad [1] 20/18
adding [1] 20/13
addition [2] 4/22141/23
additional [6] 32/2137/1458/1263/5
161/4215/19
address [1] 11/7
Adetomiwa [1] 56/10
Adeyey [1] 91/25
Adeyeye [4] 56/1091/24108/23109/2
adjourned [1] 229/15
adjusting [1] 81/18
adjustments [1] 179/20
Administration [7] 16/816/1617/24
24/20118/25119/3121/22
administrator [3] 2/2045/1577/2
admissible [4] 8/1019/320/124/1
admit [3] 51/3141/8150/12
adopter [1] 196/4
Adrienne [1] 39/5
Adrienne Richardson [1] 39/5
adult [9] 27/2253/758/865/2566/777/3
126/13126/15210/4
adults [4] 44/852/476/180/15
advance [1] 22/13
advantage [1] 105/12
advised [2] 10/6120/15
affect [23] 76/1180/796/18100/23102/9
104/7105/18111/1119/6119/14144/19
146/25152/7203/4203/5203/24205/12
205/14205/18207/15209/3210/13211/2
affecting [1] 228/16
affects [1] 91/13
affinity [1] 64/15
after [12] 1/718/2226/1032/1933/1536/9
36/1239/2584/5116/21143/17161/17
after-school [1] 36/9
afternoon [2] 180/2228/5
afterwards [1] 227/25
ag [1] 228/18
again [27] 20/122/431/1535/741/143/2
58/1268/288/2297/23103/14105/14
116/6116/11142/19144/21147/23180/6
180/12180/13181/23189/14202/12
209/12213/23214/5217/7
against [2] 28/5205/13
agencies [3] 23/2114/2119/10
agency [7] 7/1344/1062/9119/5119/17
127/22183/19
agent [24] 4/124/125/125/135/195/24
6/106/137/138/98/138/149/1237/12
37/1337/1637/1738/138/274/1375/23
76/2207/8209/4
Agent Caruana [1] 8/9
agents [17] 5/35/47/77/177/2329/1
37/1037/1437/2562/762/8105/1113/10
113/13113/20184/15184/16
ages [1] 85/23
aggravated [1] 12/21
aggregate [1] 228/9
ago [48] 20/236/1136/1149/1261/563/7
63/863/1169/1069/1172/1374/1374/13
78/282/1783/2285/485/991/1092/11
93/23107/12126/23127/6128/10128/11
131/7137/11137/20137/23137/23139/15
143/23145/14145/20147/9161/22163/7
166/9168/17172/18172/21178/5178/23
178/24206/3211/15211/18
agree [6] 12/517/119/11149/4150/2
150/5
agreed [2] 12/1156/5
agreement [1] 11/14
Ah [1] 191/1
ahead [13] 11/2353/158/465/19116/9
120/24124/16156/13156/16163/2217/24
218/12227/4
AI [1] 1/13
aided [1] 2/18
Aiken [1] 82/11
Air [1] 67/19
airline [1] 174/2
Airlines [1] 77/1
Airplanes [1] 139/25
aisle [1] 43/23
Alan [1] 76/22
Albany [7] 58/2058/2058/21135/11
135/12135/13136/16
Alicia [1] 37/9
all [258]
allegation [4] 14/614/715/23225/10
allegations [2] 18/8117/6
allege [2] 13/113/4
alleged [2] 13/1521/4
alleges [4] 15/2018/17117/16121/5
allow [3] 25/2531/1586/6
allowed [3] 6/148/2327/19
almost [4] 24/1196/11127/9171/15
along [4] 9/310/936/3204/17
already [25] 4/228/1010/1618/218/11
18/1354/13120/14132/21159/21160/8
172/16180/5180/13180/14183/18183/22
184/6186/3202/10209/11209/14215/14
216/4228/3
also [63] 2/64/115/55/197/2512/2214/5
14/1016/1317/1318/1619/2319/2520/6
23/2526/1328/235/1137/637/1037/13
37/1438/1453/653/1558/1266/968/13
83/1885/2296/9106/22112/19116/23
126/19128/6128/22132/14132/25136/15
137/13141/20145/23149/25160/20161/8
166/5166/13168/2168/14168/19168/25
169/6169/9171/4172/23174/25176/5
176/15177/15178/15221/6230/9
alternate [1] 216/21
alternates [3] 155/16155/19155/23
although [2] 8/1727/17
altogether [1] 137/20
alumni [1] 65/6
always [13] 14/2321/2426/1254/454/23
58/272/1678/1197/397/497/1097/11
190/6
am [51] 9/1021/2129/1641/1845/14
45/1647/348/2352/353/453/653/2356/9
56/1358/658/861/161/364/1165/2165/24
66/1966/2066/2167/1668/469/2470/20
71/1773/2374/1475/575/1175/2476/25
77/179/2082/1382/1484/1184/1285/22
111/3126/10131/8135/2153/3157/1
222/3226/8227/2
Amanda [1] 37/17
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Amazing [1] 86/7
Amazon [2] 86/1886/23
amendment [2] 8/317/20
AMERICA [9] 2/3126/22127/3131/4
143/6144/2144/14144/18230/9
American [2] 73/7200/23
among [1] 117/15
amongst [4] 8/287/15214/21215/1
amount [3] 125/7128/23177/13
analysis [7] 21/974/7114/17167/2167/7
167/9167/19
analyst [2] 61/284/7
analyzing [1] 151/2
Anatomy [1] 53/14
anchor [1] 29/25
Andrew [1] 213/20
angry [2] 75/11105/22
angst [2] 76/1476/17
announce [1] 218/14
another [13] 13/2315/1423/1823/19
40/946/965/287/25134/6140/24145/4
190/21219/25
answer [12] 32/1333/334/952/666/3
66/2369/570/279/2487/598/1999/10
answered [3] 126/19148/10180/5
answering [1] 152/19
answers [5] 12/1158/11152/3152/15
153/14
anticipate [1] 157/22
Antonio [1] 72/19
any [152] 1/95/66/313/1117/117/21
18/1226/728/228/1529/731/1232/24
32/2533/2534/2235/838/638/2544/12
45/745/1846/1146/1247/548/348/12
48/1448/2451/751/1153/153/1455/16
56/1358/2359/160/762/162/771/1871/23
71/2472/773/1576/1476/1576/1776/17
83/1988/888/1490/1391/2293/694/395/6
98/7100/22101/7102/16103/5104/10
107/17110/12113/6114/7115/4115/13
117/11117/24118/4118/4118/19118/20
119/2119/2119/5119/8119/13119/13
119/17119/20119/21119/23120/3120/21
121/10121/14121/18121/19121/24
122/11122/16122/18122/23123/1123/2
123/7123/10123/15123/20124/5124/8
130/17131/12131/13132/3132/3132/15
132/15136/12142/22143/7144/17146/14
150/3151/4151/5154/11156/14158/6
159/4160/14169/14169/16169/17170/15
176/2176/23179/17179/22180/18195/3
203/6203/22207/2207/3207/4215/19
218/1218/4219/11222/10223/18223/22
224/1225/6225/19227/7227/8227/8
anybody [79] 6/1815/831/2433/933/23
34/435/2236/736/1436/1836/1836/20
36/2237/1837/1938/338/338/1738/19
38/2039/339/839/939/1839/1940/542/21
43/143/1143/1344/1355/2565/770/3
88/1389/1190/2599/14115/4115/21
148/16149/15154/10156/12156/14
180/16180/18180/21180/24181/1181/2
181/25182/1182/2182/22183/1183/2
183/5183/5183/8183/9183/11183/17
184/1184/3184/4184/9184/15184/15
185/20185/24186/2189/22217/19220/17
220/18222/10222/13224/2
anymore [8] 51/2490/8105/9125/15
189/10225/1228/10228/18
anyone [33] 5/56/535/2138/638/638/19
38/1939/1240/1041/1542/1042/1742/19
99/1699/18116/17117/3117/18117/20
117/22118/24122/25123/14123/23
123/23126/20131/12151/19152/12
152/16153/1154/5154/20
anything [82] 4/204/227/510/2011/5
11/1814/2434/435/2135/2341/1141/15
47/947/1248/1349/2055/555/661/2572/3
73/1176/1180/580/2081/2085/1287/10
87/1988/591/1892/16105/23105/24
107/14108/5108/12108/17109/18111/12
121/16125/22128/13130/16130/20
132/12133/13135/4136/13136/19137/3
138/3139/2144/13144/19146/10147/13
151/10151/15154/24157/20160/15161/1
161/25165/1166/14169/21170/13171/22
174/8174/23177/1199/14215/20222/11
222/12223/14223/19224/4224/5225/6
227/20228/3
anyway [1] 149/5
anywhere [1] 162/23
apartments [4] 188/3188/4188/7188/10
apologize [4] 163/2198/15209/12213/1
appear [1] 38/24
appearances [2] 2/244/7
Apple [2] 45/2377/13
application [1] 25/24
applications [1] 204/19
applied [3] 20/12121/10121/19
applies [1] 148/2
apply [15] 14/342/2547/1647/1657/20
59/1459/2399/1102/22102/22103/1
121/11121/20151/16180/24
applying [1] 43/2
appreciate [25] 23/2330/1141/1342/7
47/2460/160/2065/1365/1666/1768/23
73/1976/1979/1781/2584/891/2093/9
99/21101/9103/20104/13106/7115/2
226/4
approaches [1] 88/13
appropriate [8] 8/1417/2224/2525/8
26/126/2532/23222/2
approximately [6] 127/5164/2177/8
179/7188/5193/14
apps [1] 167/16
April [3] 12/1574/10219/7
architect [1] 52/3
are [137] 1/84/55/35/46/26/37/178/1
8/128/148/188/188/219/69/610/1511/6
12/412/2414/718/318/924/1725/2328/23
29/329/729/1730/931/532/534/2336/25
37/1437/2537/2541/1041/2543/1844/8
46/2246/2552/452/2453/1460/1564/24
65/1266/1367/1872/1073/2574/1574/23
75/2580/380/1582/682/2583/1186/14
94/2397/1598/16103/6110/17112/1
112/4113/21114/15114/19115/5116/1
116/2122/13126/2126/8126/8126/11
127/23127/24129/1134/5134/18135/14
135/14136/9138/8140/14140/18144/7
153/4156/6156/20157/17158/17159/24
160/10160/20164/15164/15165/4165/10
175/6179/22183/21184/16185/4187/9
188/8188/9188/10191/1191/2191/22
200/4200/13200/13201/15203/5206/24
207/12207/18211/5212/15214/11214/11
214/17215/9215/19216/14219/15220/3
220/7223/21224/9225/22
area [4] 59/22112/10130/14198/22
areas [2] 112/13130/15
argue [1] 20/18
argues [1] 16/14
arguments [1] 9/7
Armchair [1] 86/8
Army [1] 83/17
around [13] 16/1828/2044/349/14117/2
133/10167/3191/24195/4212/17217/7
221/17225/18
arrest [1] 80/23
arrested [19] 44/1245/1948/1353/11
59/260/861/670/2375/777/779/2380/19
85/1185/2592/895/1995/2296/9151/23
Artanjey [1] 69/23
as [138] 2/64/124/126/88/38/1710/11
11/112/1312/1313/2213/2314/114/17
14/2116/1016/1018/219/1420/122/8
22/2523/2524/624/626/628/828/1930/15
30/1530/1730/1730/2031/2235/1135/13
35/1537/1637/1738/1438/2439/1341/4
42/1443/343/2446/1046/1347/1759/11
59/2364/1572/576/578/584/786/586/5
87/1787/1790/591/294/2294/2295/499/2
100/18103/16108/9108/25109/8109/25
114/7116/24116/24117/7118/18119/18
120/5121/23121/24122/8122/10122/12
123/3123/6123/6124/2124/18126/3
129/25130/8130/12132/5132/6142/5
145/7146/4146/7148/21149/23150/19
151/1151/22151/23154/4154/8155/16
156/1162/13162/13163/4164/7164/13
165/9177/10177/11184/3184/4184/25
195/7204/16208/20209/10210/19215/14
215/16217/3217/3218/5219/11222/4
227/5227/7227/7227/8227/9230/10
Ashley [1] 81/6
aside [20] 31/1242/2146/2359/2161/18
63/1964/364/479/1480/1092/19101/3
106/25117/23121/18122/22129/11151/6
152/5152/6
ask [49] 5/26/26/46/176/228/2411/6
11/725/2530/2231/1831/1931/2132/14
32/1532/2032/2534/735/735/2536/23
38/1039/246/1747/2563/665/1475/15
78/1289/1589/17104/18110/17116/3
116/6116/16153/5180/5180/11180/14
182/5184/11184/14185/15186/5214/14
220/14222/16229/7
asked [21] 8/199/142/12104/17106/24
127/1143/24170/3180/14180/21181/22
182/21183/14184/14189/3198/14198/17
202/9207/16209/10211/13
asking [9] 30/1843/1105/2148/11
182/16185/16205/2205/3209/1
assault [1] 107/13
assets [1] 123/2
assign [1] 177/25
assistance [2] 190/8190/25
assistant [5] 36/2337/537/745/1463/24
assisting [2] 37/837/10
associate [2] 48/2386/24
associated [4] 5/86/1918/723/6
Association [1] 123/22
assume [4] 63/17137/4165/18187/11
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assuming [4] 8/2414/1619/18103/8
athletic [2] 72/22166/8
ATL [1] 192/14
ATLANTA [12] 2/22/224/344/748/11
62/1962/2162/2262/2477/13198/22
230/6
attached [1] 1/5
attaching [1] 1/8
attempt [1] 150/16
attempts [2] 149/18149/18
attended [1] 123/12
attention [5] 56/4107/4116/4154/3
227/14
attorney [7] 3/236/2137/537/763/25
76/25167/11
attorneys [7] 36/2438/874/5120/1120/4
167/2167/12
Attraction [1] 66/4
Auburn [1] 82/15
audible [1] 130/21
audio [4] 10/745/2461/974/19
auditing [1] 146/8
auditor [8] 123/4129/25130/5130/8
132/20145/24146/4146/7
August [1] 135/24
August 18th [1] 135/24
aunt [3] 75/8104/22148/21
automatic [1] 85/21
avoid [3] 12/188/9127/13
aware [4] 10/2311/122/23219/25
away [3] 21/372/14110/10
awfully [1] 103/17
awhile [4] 100/5168/17172/18178/12
B
back [81] 10/1115/924/628/2028/20
33/737/1545/462/1162/1262/2064/12
65/1671/1372/1684/2587/588/1988/25
89/389/1491/191/25100/5100/8102/6
107/2108/10108/13108/25115/18115/20
118/10122/2135/15135/23135/25147/21
147/23147/24150/25154/2154/10154/19
154/21155/1181/3181/5181/6181/7
181/12181/17181/18182/10185/11
187/12189/18189/19195/6195/8195/10
195/12201/19203/18214/11215/2216/25
217/9217/21218/18218/19219/18219/20
219/23221/3221/6221/10221/20224/23
224/24229/6
background [3] 60/11137/4146/11
backup [1] 68/21
bad [2] 30/15200/24
baker [1] 71/18
balance [1] 39/24
bank [52] 35/1161/275/994/21104/19
105/7117/16117/17117/17117/19117/23
117/25118/6125/5126/22127/3127/4
127/10128/6130/3130/15130/25131/2
131/3131/4131/13134/2134/6134/9
134/12134/12137/9138/11138/23138/24
142/11143/6144/2144/14144/18144/18
146/15171/7171/19172/2172/3178/9
178/16178/19178/21209/25222/20
banking [7] 125/18126/20129/9131/10
133/18139/10146/11
barber [1] 66/9
base [1] 98/7
baseball [1] 78/24
based [14] 31/1134/2435/2042/1666/13
66/1480/1094/14109/25110/9151/7
183/7185/21215/20
bases [1] 14/3
basic [2] 211/23212/13
basically [8] 65/674/7112/14157/1
157/15166/3174/10212/10
basis [1] 15/12
basketball [2] 64/23104/6
bathroom [1] 89/18
batteries [1] 156/25
Baucom [1] 37/16
BBC [1] 75/14
be [232]
Bear [2] 61/783/11
Bearden [1] 39/5
beat [1] 22/4
became [1] 49/18
because [56] 7/19/2012/1213/714/5
15/1817/1119/1922/1723/524/426/1
26/2327/131/933/1334/2549/2561/765/2
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24/626/1926/1926/2228/1933/2540/6
46/1848/148/1249/1456/1456/1568/7
69/469/870/2275/2276/377/980/1884/4
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127/23131/5131/20133/8144/24146/1
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17/1122/2130/1239/2257/1668/2276/10
76/1083/9102/7102/20118/22119/25
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170/15171/23172/11223/7225/12
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120/17124/5150/6
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40/2446/2562/2576/1396/2197/399/7
109/17109/19109/24110/1110/8122/21
124/1125/24128/21130/24131/17133/12
133/17137/7141/2141/17142/10145/2
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168/2168/14168/19170/7170/18174/5
175/14176/5
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166/2226/7
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162/25205/7
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23/723/10213/20
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77/1583/1693/1997/398/1399/8104/23
110/4110/25143/11146/8146/22150/10
156/19181/1187/3208/17
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193/22193/22196/18197/10197/11198/9
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24/2531/1349/2262/663/1663/2068/5
75/676/479/1181/183/1792/692/794/7
96/23124/6125/6126/11129/1140/15
145/14151/13151/17173/22187/3187/25
194/24206/24
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57/20149/14
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72/1184/785/5118/25119/3120/22
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141/19141/22142/1142/3142/6144/22
144/22158/14158/25159/5162/6162/8
162/16165/24166/3167/18168/3169/7
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177/16181/23181/24192/17
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25/626/1326/2328/1528/2128/2229/4
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84/1685/7184/19184/21212/21213/4
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116/18116/23116/25120/25126/7
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207/11208/15228/16
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149/5149/8149/15149/24150/1150/7
151/15151/16151/17152/8152/25154/4
154/15154/18154/22215/20226/3226/18
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161/2162/2165/2165/4177/13
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28/1572/18152/1159/13
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33/543/20156/2
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170/3
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131/4173/16200/16
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93/22117/15153/21185/21186/1
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125/13128/6
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Cherokee [4] 43/853/353/883/16
Cherokee County [1] 53/3
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79/2180/1583/2085/2386/19102/5
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61/1161/1269/1282/1685/2
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17/617/1017/23
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212/19
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69/278/22206/15
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25/1028/23104/20150/3150/23172/1
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209/22
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53/1053/1254/356/1859/161/671/20
71/2172/175/876/477/779/2286/3117/24
119/21120/7120/15121/11121/20122/23
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67/1267/2570/1882/1282/14206/2
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61/2367/1270/1882/12206/2
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229/9
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126/16126/17126/18131/2141/6142/13
143/3143/5
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40/761/1971/1378/988/1888/2597/7
100/9102/6117/12135/1146/18147/21
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84/13
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117/25118/6121/15122/17122/19125/25
126/2126/6126/7129/4129/16129/21
129/22130/25131/14131/17132/16133/1
133/7134/2137/9138/12141/7141/14
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37/1139/239/948/1
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140/21199/4200/23
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18/418/668/8
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51/1052/253/353/853/2055/2156/11
56/1258/658/1960/360/2561/161/23
65/2166/1966/2067/1267/2569/269/24
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76/2478/2279/179/1980/1481/782/4
82/1283/583/1684/1184/2385/1986/18
113/16113/18114/13114/20135/20136/4
149/20175/9204/7204/8206/2206/3
206/15206/16207/24208/2
couple [19] 4/1821/1621/1828/1330/22
50/2454/1765/972/1387/7141/2166/9
177/10182/5194/3200/4215/13220/14
222/5
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5/35/56/18/109/1410/111/112/214/2
23/2424/2425/125/325/825/2526/276/6
86/1117/13120/7170/7170/9184/5
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228/16230/4230/5230/8230/19
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120/10120/12120/16120/17225/8
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156/11185/22215/5217/18220/5223/15
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cousin [16] 49/149/949/1549/2150/2
105/8125/6125/19126/21133/20133/21
138/13158/4204/6204/12205/15
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cover [1] 147/6
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209/11210/22
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COVID-19 [1] 118/12
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131/5
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19/2220/2024/524/628/441/741/1944/13
44/1445/1945/2046/1246/1347/448/14
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90/2092/493/1795/20100/3100/3100/14
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106/23107/25107/25109/3111/4112/13
112/14112/17113/3113/5113/6124/1
136/14150/23157/13157/14160/20
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69/676/1098/1598/16123/17170/24
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46/1857/1659/2261/1169/1269/1383/21
112/15158/4163/18163/21163/23222/17
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CRR [2] 2/20230/18
crypto [4] 191/17191/19191/22192/3
CSI [1] 164/16
CSOs [3] 225/20225/23226/25
culture [2] 200/19201/14
cup [1] 229/6
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138/16141/4153/4178/2178/17191/1
195/25201/21
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101/25111/4114/16126/18139/22173/8
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68/2278/1890/990/1090/20111/4112/13
112/14112/16113/3113/5150/23
cyber crime [1] 113/3
Cynthia [1] 60/24
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dad [15] 62/1363/1563/22137/10141/12
141/20144/24158/15175/8189/24202/19
203/4203/24207/23208/6
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damage [1] 80/19
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data [2] 68/21114/17
date [9] 14/918/1922/122/2222/2323/7
23/1036/6213/20
dates [5] 14/2215/2218/822/9212/16
dating [1] 62/3
daughter [13] 45/1753/953/2566/21
70/1072/2473/2477/2178/1078/1283/7
84/14102/5
daughter's [1] 73/3
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day [26] 11/1018/1820/1022/130/14
36/1259/1879/481/1181/1481/1695/12
162/16162/16173/16189/18195/10
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days [9] 1/414/1336/136/536/14159/14
192/1208/9222/5
DEA [3] 62/1362/24183/19
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Decatur [1] 38/15
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13/2514/514/1215/2016/616/1318/6
18/1019/819/1022/1922/2323/423/6
23/1224/1831/1335/1035/14117/12
117/15121/6124/7218/2227/7227/8
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defer [1] 225/25
define [1] 16/9
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degree [3] 77/5151/16152/3
DeKalb [14] 43/855/2171/1676/2381/7
84/1184/23113/16113/18114/13114/20
149/20207/24208/2
DELANO [23] 2/52/64/144/144/164/16
8/98/139/915/2115/2135/1035/1138/15
38/18117/7183/3183/12185/17186/3
225/8230/9230/10
deliberate [1] 146/25
deliberating [1] 87/16
delivering [1] 65/25
Delta [6] 76/2577/18130/6173/8173/12
173/24
dementia [1] 105/14
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Dennis [2] 69/1219/4
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DentFirst [1] 45/15
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department [18] 38/773/22113/16
114/13114/18114/20114/23120/2120/4
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182/22183/20183/20
depend [1] 190/14
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190/15205/10208/8
deposits [1] 121/25
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depth [1] 176/23
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described [1] 151/1
describing [1] 13/22
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design [1] 133/3
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despite [1] 81/2
details [5] 49/258/1373/173/4159/4
determine [3] 31/531/736/18
determined [2] 14/233/20
Detroit [2] 100/9100/11
develop [1] 74/6
developer [2] 46/974/22
development [8] 67/1773/22134/7
162/9167/8169/9169/13187/25
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61/461/1663/763/864/1464/1469/769/18
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163/18163/21163/21163/22171/18
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76/1498/198/3104/18105/13105/20
106/16142/19142/21146/24151/17
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191/19198/14210/8216/6226/14
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15/1915/2216/517/217/1518/818/19
18/2318/2419/1420/320/1020/1220/19
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25/225/2436/1887/2398/1598/17112/16
113/6130/15137/14142/24145/13145/25
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182/16185/16200/16201/25222/1
differently [2] 226/8227/8
difficult [8] 22/1939/1439/2139/22
119/18120/5124/2153/2
difficulty [3] 43/2103/6119/8
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dire [3] 30/1930/20115/8
direct [4] 82/23121/25143/17167/22
directly [1] 169/19
director [6] 68/1768/2070/2172/22
144/11166/8
disability [2] 39/1339/21
Disasters [1] 67/19
Disciples [1] 226/6
discouraged [1] 40/19
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discourse [1] 41/11
discovery [5] 14/1014/2314/2515/24
56/5
discuss [8] 77/982/1886/1111/16
111/19111/21111/25112/16
discussed [5] 4/22132/22142/14142/18
215/14
discussion [2] 19/24110/23
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distraught [1] 153/21
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38/943/8120/1230/5230/5
diversity [2] 58/7125/25
DIVISION [1] 2/2
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DNR [1] 206/15
do [364]
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document [3] 1/917/1819/9
Document 196 [1] 19/9
Document 207 [1] 17/18
documents [3] 14/17132/15132/18
Dodson [3] 65/2193/1193/13
does [57] 6/17/2114/217/1622/1736/7
38/638/1943/1459/862/1470/1274/20
78/1490/790/14115/4118/19119/2
120/21126/2132/14135/23144/10148/16
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dog [6] 52/1052/1052/1152/1852/23
58/3
dogs [2] 52/352/13
doing [24] 6/2523/1527/2529/2233/12
44/952/1456/261/2471/1185/588/10
114/16138/9165/1173/19173/25179/11
185/5192/3193/21204/25211/3226/7
dollars [2] 28/1397/1
Dolphins [1] 68/13
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125/15133/12135/17144/20149/6150/14
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donation [2] 168/15169/2
donations [1] 168/20
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33/1554/1761/2481/1689/24112/5
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door [1] 105/1
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Douglas [2] 43/986/18
down [18] 32/134/1434/1634/1840/7
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172/15180/25181/14182/20186/4207/5
221/7
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Dr. [1] 39/7
Dr. Solomon [1] 39/7
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drama [2] 53/1569/6
dramas [4] 45/21157/17160/21160/23
dramatically [1] 194/9
dramatization [1] 160/25
drink [1] 66/10
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driver's [5] 23/523/723/823/1127/24
driving [2] 208/20208/22
dropped [2] 12/2080/20
dropping [1] 13/10
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Duke [5] 64/764/864/22183/16202/12
duplicity [2] 15/1617/3
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91/1595/24116/13139/19146/24150/13
174/22
Dustin [2] 70/17219/5
duties [8] 29/24121/23122/8122/10
123/7127/16132/8156/21
duty [2] 81/8205/18
dynamic [2] 187/4188/20
E
E7 [1] 212/19
each [14] 15/1830/2231/487/987/12
87/23124/19147/25148/2155/19187/4
216/2216/18217/22
eager [1] 134/25
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early [5] 22/1091/11117/7196/3221/16
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easiest [1] 182/6
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easy-peasy [1] 40/3
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efficiently [2] 36/4149/13
effort [1] 12/1
egregious [1] 28/4
eight [4] 73/2482/12124/19206/2
eight-year-old [1] 73/24
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55/1456/460/1276/1090/990/1591/22
93/693/1795/695/19106/4106/14107/24
154/10165/23191/9219/11220/15220/17
223/12224/24
elderly [2] 39/2039/20
electronic [1] 196/4
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elevator [1] 221/7
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Eleventh Circuit [3] 14/225/1026/20
Eleventh Circuit's [1] 19/24
Eliese [1] 75/2
Elizabeth [1] 83/5
Ellison [3] 72/20103/23103/25
else [45] 6/187/510/2011/1832/1633/2
37/1941/441/1542/1087/2288/1399/16
99/18108/12117/4117/20117/22122/25
123/14123/24126/20130/20131/12135/5
142/12142/17151/19153/1154/5154/20
154/24169/22179/11182/2182/18183/2
191/5202/25202/25219/15220/6223/8
224/4227/20
elsewhere [2] 14/2394/1
email [3] 10/19226/20226/21
emailed [1] 160/8
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embarrasses [1] 32/25
EMC [1] 82/14
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employed [2] 119/10121/15
employee [4] 105/5119/12119/17
130/18
employee/employer [1] 130/18
employees [17] 38/6122/1128/1142/5
146/15162/24166/11169/12169/18
175/23177/4177/5177/7177/9179/5
179/18192/20
employees' [2] 121/24122/11
employer [2] 130/18130/19
employment [3] 129/19134/6163/19
EMT [1] 184/3
end [7] 5/2511/930/1431/273/2187/15
167/8
ended [5] 65/2171/17172/10172/11
207/6
Energy [2] 65/2266/10
enforcement [22] 23/259/9113/9113/13
113/15113/20114/2119/5119/9139/1
149/22150/17183/15202/10202/15203/3
203/14204/5205/13205/23207/16207/22
engaged [1] 59/19
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engineering [1] 129/7
engineers [3] 61/4129/1129/2
English [1] 39/16
Enjoy [1] 148/4
enjoyed [1] 30/14
enough [7] 15/739/1681/1797/18110/6
198/13198/15
enrolling [1] 122/1
entered [6] 29/1235/1435/16115/19
156/10217/17
entire [1] 95/24
entry [1] 1/6
episode [1] 95/23
equipment [3] 81/881/18212/24
error [1] 25/11
escrow [1] 143/18
especially [3] 47/797/17160/11
essentially [4] 23/2426/3154/2175/22
established [1] 141/13
establishes [1] 22/22
estate [11] 53/2266/574/1374/2175/23
76/2131/17169/9171/5173/1173/4
et [2] 76/7166/12
et cetera [2] 76/7166/12
evaluate [1] 119/14
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evaluation [1] 204/21
even [16] 18/120/830/1341/1142/23
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151/25157/6192/5223/1
evening [1] 220/16
Event [1] 71/3
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ever [39] 38/2040/745/2054/371/20
72/1277/7113/12114/22117/18117/24
118/25119/16119/21121/8121/23122/11
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Evert [4] 3/34/1037/637/19
every [14] 7/1321/1066/1579/4105/5
105/6132/10140/8149/12169/3220/23
225/9227/10227/10
everybody [20] 6/46/178/429/1532/1
32/1533/233/634/1834/1943/2190/19
101/1109/9115/20115/23156/14216/23
219/14220/6
everybody's [1] 157/4
everyone [6] 118/3118/9122/9122/15
123/19220/25
everyone's [1] 121/4
everything [17] 54/568/287/22105/8
132/17151/11163/18165/19166/21
201/13202/24202/25207/10208/17
223/13223/21223/25
evidence [35] 10/1218/2119/519/619/7
19/1219/1319/1820/221/423/1223/25
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185/22223/24225/10
exact [4] 13/1136/688/19176/11
exactly [7] 74/388/25125/11128/2
138/20177/13188/18
example [2] 32/1597/19
examples [1] 112/2
except [3] 88/5140/20207/4
exception [1] 227/17
exchange [1] 199/2
exchanged [1] 207/6
exciting [1] 60/18
exclude [1] 11/5
excluded [1] 11/4
excuse [4] 33/533/6212/11224/9
excused [2] 33/7155/10
executive [2] 65/22141/20
exercise [1] 218/1
exercised [1] 218/5
exhibits [1] 35/4
exists [1] 143/9
exited [5] 89/8148/5215/5220/4225/4
expect [4] 33/23154/1162/2222/5
expected [2] 36/537/25
expecting [1] 14/10
experience [31] 31/757/2161/1877/25
92/9108/6118/5119/13119/16125/4
132/15140/10140/18142/11145/24
156/22161/9162/1163/4166/6170/19
171/7171/23174/9175/2176/6177/21
178/9179/2179/11179/14
experienced [1] 96/24
experiences [4] 76/993/2098/18101/4
experiencing [1] 94/23
expert [3] 10/2310/2411/3
Experts [1] 86/8
explain [2] 27/927/11
explaining [1] 26/20
explains [1] 13/19
explanation [1] 24/3
exposure [2] 101/21153/20
expressing [1] 152/15
extended [1] 108/6
extension [1] 195/23
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extra [3] 174/11174/15224/13
extrinsic [1] 23/25
F
faced [1] 118/14
fact [12] 18/718/2523/1227/2536/7
63/22100/19105/12139/2149/20165/17
203/4
facts [19] 25/531/1142/1679/1592/20
94/1494/1599/2103/1117/11136/24
137/2151/8165/6165/8165/10165/11
170/15185/22
factual [2] 112/2112/3
fair [51] 15/731/931/1031/1633/2049/22
50/1255/763/2073/1376/1179/1180/7
81/181/1786/1292/1793/494/794/1095/1
96/1997/22100/24102/10104/8105/18
106/2107/15108/7110/6110/7111/1
118/22119/6119/15119/18120/6121/17
124/2124/6139/3144/15147/15148/19
149/1150/24151/5171/23185/25223/12
Fairbanks [1] 171/9
fairly [10] 28/1173/1694/494/598/9
109/23119/9158/7183/6185/21
Falcons [1] 88/4
fall [2] 19/2377/13
false [6] 16/219/819/1320/420/728/12
familiar [2] 198/14198/17
familiarity [2] 143/8182/24
families [1] 201/19
family [64] 38/738/2054/254/2254/22
75/676/993/1696/596/697/16100/2
101/15107/24108/6109/9109/9117/18
117/24118/5118/25119/20120/22121/11
121/15121/19122/17122/19122/23
123/16129/15131/12132/25134/21137/8
138/11139/1141/10141/18144/22145/3
151/22158/13158/25163/5165/23168/3
169/7170/19170/20170/24171/1172/24
174/5175/1175/15176/20177/15178/9
179/12183/15183/18200/21200/24
fan [9] 44/2044/2144/2145/1067/288/4
134/25160/20170/7
fancy [1] 72/13
fans [1] 72/10
fantasy [1] 45/22
FAPR [2] 2/20230/18
far [11] 5/1121/324/639/1740/447/10
72/14149/16177/11177/11210/9
Fargo [2] 134/4138/19
farsighted [1] 22/12
FASB [1] 167/19
fashioned [2] 196/23198/1
fast [2] 174/20227/3
Fatal [1] 66/4
father [3] 30/862/14224/10
favor [3] 55/1463/2372/7
favorite [3] 51/1757/2486/9
favorites [1] 74/17
favoritism [1] 31/12
FBI [11] 4/125/1237/1237/1638/162/10
63/7183/19184/15203/23209/4
February [1] 13/6
February 13th [1] 13/6
federal [18] 62/662/863/1663/2393/25
94/2104/25105/4109/15117/9118/13
119/4119/5119/24122/12183/19184/15
184/16
federally [1] 117/8
feedback [1] 160/14
feel [8] 50/4110/4123/25146/24161/3
165/2165/3180/7
feelings [6] 42/2364/2275/16104/20
120/3124/2
feels [3] 34/454/21220/17
fellow [1] 147/1
fellowship [1] 168/23
felt [2] 150/19151/22
few [7] 7/684/696/12116/12137/19
180/2228/13
fewer [1] 189/5
fi [4] 45/2245/2546/156/20
fictitious [1] 13/7
Fidelity [1] 125/19
field [1] 149/21
fifth [2] 65/267/5
fighting [1] 143/22
figure [2] 65/475/10
file [12] 2/413/218/2219/1420/422/20
167/16189/8191/8192/19193/19193/20
filed [15] 1/21/71/911/512/1814/815/13
17/2018/1826/2327/227/327/3117/9
182/8
filing [7] 13/513/1216/1016/1028/12
189/3189/4
filings [2] 14/2122/25
film [2] 79/379/4
final [2] 19/419/5
finally [1] 210/2
finance [3] 130/14146/5146/11
financial [4] 104/25117/8118/15166/3
find [3] 30/1187/2396/22
fine [6] 17/2252/2290/17116/25194/18
211/10
fingers [1] 220/1
finish [1] 115/9
FINLAYSON [17] 3/43/54/1415/817/19
24/924/1538/1038/1338/1438/1838/21
152/2152/9153/13179/25218/4
Finlayson's [2] 24/3150/13
firm [22] 68/20123/16129/7141/21145/4
145/12159/3161/17163/13163/16170/19
170/21171/5173/1173/4173/11175/6
175/7175/9192/1192/4192/5
firms [1] 145/14
first [27] 7/913/1721/2026/1032/632/12
49/173/878/2579/990/24105/13109/10
110/2115/9150/21155/21155/22159/24
159/24175/3204/6212/19215/25216/14
226/12226/23
first-time [2] 109/10110/2
fiscal [1] 195/21
Fischer [1] 75/3
Fisher [3] 104/14104/16104/17
five [14] 36/136/536/1444/889/21131/5
133/9159/14164/11166/9176/13196/9
214/10222/3
flag [1] 10/22
flat [1] 174/13
flexibility [1] 159/20
Florida [5] 15/2423/868/192/10193/22
fly [3] 10/2411/311/8
FlyingJack [2] 180/18180/19
FM [1] 69/6
focus [2] 147/2147/3
focused [1] 140/19
folks [9] 115/3154/21181/24186/6
186/25188/17191/18203/23221/16
follow [29] 10/932/1432/1532/2139/16
42/1846/2447/2048/248/256/2357/19
61/1964/591/2293/699/1101/7110/12
110/21111/7115/5116/21120/8120/11
120/17186/5227/21227/25
follow-up [11] 32/1432/1532/2148/2
48/291/2293/6101/7110/12116/21
227/25
follow-ups [1] 186/5
following [4] 1/142/21123/21151/11
food [2] 131/24201/14
football [6] 45/2161/2464/982/20104/6
174/20
foreclosure [2] 171/16172/7
foregoing [1] 230/12
foreign [1] 112/20
foremen [1] 200/16
forensic [3] 58/2259/6136/7
foreperson [6] 57/961/1369/1469/16
82/1883/23
Forest [1] 64/15
forget [1] 179/18
forgetting [1] 127/15
forgiven [4] 181/3181/8181/8181/19
forgot [2] 53/2162/6
form [1] 230/12
formative [1] 146/5
formed [1] 119/23
former [3] 12/2012/2377/2
formerly [1] 117/7
forms [1] 19/21
forth [2] 217/9217/21
Fortune [1] 46/15
forums [1] 192/13
fought [2] 96/1196/11
found [3] 96/497/497/4
four [16] 12/2369/1172/2174/1475/10
80/1583/1787/22105/15120/20128/11
133/9154/18155/10206/3216/18
Fowler [1] 38/2
France [2] 78/9197/2
fraud [38] 13/513/1213/1214/615/19
16/416/816/1516/1617/417/818/1018/21
24/724/1224/1935/1235/1241/2447/8
75/1094/2294/22104/19109/8111/5
111/5111/24112/5112/15112/17117/16
117/17185/17185/18223/3223/19225/9
fraudster [2] 75/9104/24
fraudulent [7] 13/213/614/816/2018/3
117/8117/9
freed [2] 96/296/7
FreeTaxUSA [1] 193/12
Freight [2] 180/18180/19
Freightways [1] 141/13
fresh [1] 65/7
Fridays [1] 81/15
friend [44] 44/1445/2046/1246/1251/13
54/356/1559/160/866/2471/2071/21
71/2575/875/1676/477/786/392/392/4
95/19101/15104/2104/19106/20109/2
109/20117/24119/21121/11121/20128/7
129/11137/8138/11142/13166/2171/4
173/3178/10182/25183/18202/12205/25
friend's [4] 109/7109/20109/21144/13
friendly [3] 88/11193/16199/3
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friends [21] 44/1245/1851/1453/11
53/1260/775/676/1084/1993/16100/2
106/14107/24123/2131/13133/1143/4
198/20199/13201/10222/15
front [7] 4/1628/2333/273/21105/1
167/8217/6
front-end [2] 73/21167/8
full [4] 1/858/20135/11141/16
full-time [2] 58/20135/11
Fully [1] 123/22
Fulton [14] 4/343/952/253/2061/166/19
69/2473/2174/1175/379/182/4106/22
175/9
Fulton County [3] 74/1179/1175/9
fun [2] 30/2077/16
funded [1] 118/21
funding [1] 118/16
funds [3] 171/11171/13174/13
further [3] 22/2277/9103/4
G
GAAP [1] 167/19
gained [1] 161/4
gains [1] 191/22
Galt [1] 213/9
game [5] 44/2545/145/549/586/21
gang [3] 41/1846/6104/5
gangster [2] 68/12226/6
garden [1] 77/15
Gates [1] 58/15
gathering [1] 212/13
gave [7] 14/1214/1414/1630/5100/20
105/21143/25
GBI [4] 100/19206/13207/8209/4
GC [1] 179/4
GE [4] 139/12139/17146/7146/9
Geez [1] 160/21
general [7] 31/2247/684/1385/20111/23
173/23179/16
generally [4] 41/2147/4116/16143/16
gentleman [1] 90/18
geology [1] 199/10
GEORGIA [25] 2/12/224/315/2523/11
36/2138/943/844/2454/1158/2060/14
62/1166/1373/378/1578/1678/17104/5
109/14120/1135/13170/21178/19230/6
German [2] 212/11212/12
get [69] 7/117/129/1811/412/1112/12
16/1116/2321/1322/1223/123/823/11
27/228/1331/331/431/1032/2033/933/24
43/2388/2189/1889/2389/2391/1996/7
97/1198/199/8102/3102/4103/11105/15
109/23115/10116/2118/3118/9121/4
122/9146/17148/23153/18153/22153/24
153/25155/17156/3171/16174/23174/24
179/17180/24181/2182/18185/9187/7
189/13193/14198/14207/12209/4211/8
214/12214/14221/6221/23
gets [4] 21/2102/7179/21192/2
getting [16] 16/218/1624/1327/828/6
43/1798/2114/19124/18156/2157/2
166/12176/6180/22189/15220/19
Ghana [21] 182/25182/25183/1183/4
198/17198/17198/21199/7199/11199/14
199/21199/24199/25200/4200/5200/7
200/7200/22201/8201/8201/19
Ghanaian [2] 201/10201/24
give [30] 25/325/831/2433/2034/21
42/1546/2447/1757/2059/1359/2380/10
94/1597/1998/19116/3151/7152/17
159/19180/8188/23214/9217/3222/3
223/11223/13223/17223/21223/24229/8
given [4] 10/2387/10110/4160/14
gives [1] 26/2
giving [4] 26/399/10109/11222/6
glance [1] 138/6
glass [1] 229/8
go [95] 4/2111/2312/815/1122/1324/6
24/2431/1732/132/632/1232/2034/2
35/1636/1742/1143/2443/2548/453/1
58/458/2159/859/1160/1365/665/665/19
68/1372/1272/2084/2585/1889/290/25
91/2598/1598/16100/19115/8115/9
116/9116/20120/24124/16127/22135/8
135/25140/24149/7149/23150/1150/25
154/10154/19154/21156/1156/13156/16
156/19157/2171/15174/12180/6180/10
180/12181/23189/4190/25194/19195/6
196/8198/16206/4208/4209/11209/16
210/1216/9216/12217/24218/12218/18
218/19219/18219/22220/15221/20
221/24222/15223/22224/5224/10224/11
227/4
goal [1] 31/9
goes [2] 10/1178/15
going [152] 4/214/255/75/256/26/36/16
6/228/179/129/219/2411/411/614/17
16/916/2521/422/1425/625/1925/2127/2
27/928/428/2329/329/2029/2330/16
30/1830/2231/1731/1731/1831/2131/24
34/734/2034/2035/435/835/2536/23
38/1038/2341/2542/842/1143/2043/22
43/2244/1044/1644/1747/2451/2351/24
53/2454/1155/2257/1560/1564/564/24
65/1165/1475/1579/1087/387/487/588/8
88/988/1189/389/2390/390/2592/24
98/23102/8103/16110/17113/21116/2
116/12136/20143/5147/21151/15151/16
154/3154/9154/21155/17155/21156/20
165/18180/14181/23182/5182/19183/3
183/5185/15186/4186/5189/4192/4
202/15203/2203/4203/5203/5203/8
203/24205/14209/3213/1213/15214/9
214/11214/12214/16214/17215/10216/2
217/3217/5217/6219/25220/9220/9
220/11220/11221/3221/6221/25222/3
222/5223/11223/12224/9224/18225/25
227/21227/23228/5228/5228/12228/17
gold [6] 94/2395/895/9183/9183/9
199/11
gone [7] 55/472/16100/23105/17201/24
214/18216/5
good [42] 4/94/1318/1324/926/1229/10
29/1532/1537/438/1344/145/1247/23
48/2152/1653/258/260/260/2065/865/9
65/1165/2067/1067/2469/2371/1572/19
78/678/881/682/383/1584/2285/1787/1
91/4164/24180/2194/19200/24215/9
goodness [1] 206/18
Google [3] 223/18223/19223/19
gospel [1] 49/8
got [74] 7/1410/1610/1715/815/923/10
23/1226/2327/127/227/327/2329/1036/8
39/2445/451/359/2161/2364/1266/16
88/2290/2491/1100/19103/17105/5
107/4115/1115/22118/2121/12122/14
123/19131/10140/24144/11147/24
155/24168/13174/10174/16176/20
182/24185/10185/13188/14191/11194/9
195/23198/5198/15199/11202/18205/13
206/11206/25207/7209/20209/21210/6
210/24211/10211/23213/8213/8213/23
214/1217/8221/19224/15226/18228/7
228/15
gotcha [5] 68/4122/21126/8138/2192/6
gotten [3] 18/25176/13192/3
governance [1] 77/20
government [29] 7/138/119/710/23
15/1015/1819/519/1822/726/2127/23
30/131/1335/13113/21115/9118/16
118/21119/10119/17119/17119/22
121/19123/2124/7155/18176/16215/23
218/5
government-funded [1] 118/21
GPS [1] 179/19
grad [1] 159/23
grade [4] 67/467/572/2278/23
graduated [7] 60/464/2465/177/380/16
126/16201/10
granddad's [1] 213/4
grandkids [1] 54/25
granted [1] 12/16
great [12] 5/2342/754/1677/2477/25
115/25138/13166/23173/5174/3178/14
180/23
green [1] 11/25
Gregory [1] 55/20
grew [3] 38/1449/1749/18
Grey's [1] 53/14
Griffin [1] 207/5
grounds [1] 18/8
group [7] 31/1033/1643/1653/21144/12
173/22210/4
groups [1] 159/23
grow [1] 208/2
grown [2] 70/170/8
grows [1] 28/9
guess [15] 7/248/427/2277/1177/12
144/11148/13148/15174/11191/22192/3
205/11225/11225/15227/9
guilty [6] 35/1435/1796/597/497/4
183/12
gunpoint [1] 92/10
guy [6] 48/17100/25105/2105/9144/10
210/3
guys [2] 111/6114/12
Gwinnett [11] 43/944/256/1158/19
72/2079/1980/1483/585/20135/20136/4
Gwinnett County [8] 44/256/1172/20
79/1980/1483/5135/20136/4
H
hacked [1] 68/22
had [149] 10/610/2312/1012/1312/16
13/213/1514/2224/2427/2131/738/20
49/954/354/2260/862/1965/165/868/9
68/1070/370/2271/2172/1373/376/10
78/484/1686/196/1097/20100/7100/19
104/18104/20105/5105/13109/2118/5
118/10119/13119/16121/11121/19
121/24122/11123/2123/7125/4126/19
127/18128/6129/9129/15129/16129/24
130/24130/24132/25133/6133/13136/12
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had... [86] 137/8138/11138/18139/1
141/10141/17141/18141/18141/25
142/11143/5145/3145/24146/24147/7
147/17148/9151/5153/19154/22156/21
158/3158/13158/25160/4161/9163/4
165/23166/6168/3168/3168/15168/20
169/7170/2170/2170/18170/19170/20
171/7171/7171/16172/2172/7172/16
172/23172/24174/5174/12174/15174/15
175/1175/1175/15176/5177/15177/15
177/21178/8178/8178/15179/1181/4
181/6181/16181/25182/17182/22184/4
186/8190/8190/10191/4201/5203/14
204/20208/13209/13209/16210/1210/8
210/19224/12224/18228/9228/24
Haigler [1] 80/14
half [3] 197/13197/24198/11
hallway [1] 221/8
hand [24] 34/534/11117/3133/13179/22
179/22180/8180/22181/6181/8189/20
189/21194/13194/14194/22195/11196/2
196/15196/22197/1197/8197/14197/19
197/25
handed [1] 11/21
handful [2] 186/16186/17
handle [3] 162/15169/19169/22
handled [1] 125/9
handling [2] 157/7166/21
hands [2] 35/2436/16
handwritten [1] 191/6
happen [9] 88/1488/1588/1591/10
109/13153/23162/3165/4165/19
happened [14] 22/226/2127/127/11
27/1850/680/581/285/899/9110/3165/19
172/17224/16
happening [3] 70/5110/3170/16
happens [4] 173/17195/5208/14228/22
happily [1] 77/1
happy [1] 28/19
hard [11] 22/227/2140/245/154/1767/8
89/21102/5103/17124/22125/3
hardships [1] 118/14
Harrison [1] 73/20
Harvey [1] 73/9
has [72] 1/78/1012/515/919/523/24
25/1025/1831/2434/1834/1935/1435/16
37/2038/638/1938/2038/2039/1239/18
39/1940/540/1050/1954/2356/1556/18
57/1659/171/2071/2290/2091/1793/2
93/2194/1994/2196/13100/5102/5103/5
116/17117/12118/4118/24119/13119/23
121/10121/18122/22133/6133/21145/20
152/24168/10169/3178/5180/3182/7
182/17182/22182/24182/25183/18
184/11184/19184/20186/10187/11
188/14207/13223/2
hasn't [2] 153/22180/22
hat [1] 174/14
hate [1] 214/14
have [423]
haven't [18] 11/514/2415/746/10138/3
141/5151/10160/14163/13183/17183/21
194/6195/22200/9201/21202/13202/16
228/3
having [14] 12/224/1824/20103/6
127/14132/15151/23153/6157/8191/2
221/25224/12224/18228/24
Hazel [1] 39/4
HBCU [1] 214/1
HBO [1] 84/18
he [166] 6/106/126/136/149/813/213/15
13/1713/1813/2014/516/117/717/917/9
17/1218/2519/1319/1619/1720/220/4
20/620/2422/2423/723/1823/1823/19
24/1024/1227/1827/2127/2335/1435/16
50/450/650/662/2470/1271/1772/373/2
73/1778/278/285/185/1094/494/596/4
97/2598/1100/5100/6100/15100/18
102/7102/25103/9103/12103/13103/14
105/10105/12108/15109/8109/10109/10
109/11110/1110/2110/2110/3110/4
117/9125/11129/21129/22137/13137/14
137/19137/20137/21137/22141/13
141/13149/20149/22150/7150/7150/8
150/11150/11150/11150/14150/17
150/17150/18150/19150/22150/23
150/24150/25151/1151/2151/3151/4
151/5151/5151/6151/8153/24158/6
159/2159/5161/13162/15162/20166/2
166/3166/3169/8174/10174/11174/15
174/15174/16175/10186/12186/24187/3
187/11188/2188/3188/5188/14188/16
188/25198/7200/15200/16203/18204/16
204/20204/25205/1205/1206/1206/3
207/5207/25208/9208/11208/11208/15
208/18208/20208/22208/24213/7222/23
224/11226/9227/6
he'll [2] 205/7205/9
he's [41] 8/1715/917/317/817/1122/11
23/1023/1058/962/1370/1374/2184/25
101/20101/20101/25102/1102/8103/11
141/16144/11149/22151/11162/17
162/21175/9183/4185/17185/18188/15
189/1200/15213/7213/8221/6222/23
222/24222/24225/10226/10226/10
head [6] 77/1978/2394/1495/4108/10
157/24
health [2] 103/10153/22
healthcare [1] 75/23
hear [19] 34/2539/1576/1497/9108/9
119/11124/15151/4151/17200/6200/23
209/4213/24214/24218/16218/21220/7
222/8223/15
heard [14] 14/2415/735/20100/25121/8
148/18151/15181/1183/15208/16215/20
223/3223/6226/13
hearing [2] 226/23230/11
hears [1] 151/8
hearsay [4] 8/168/189/119/13
heart [1] 54/18
Heat [2] 58/1668/13
heavy [1] 81/8
heavy-duty [1] 81/8
Heel [1] 64/11
height [1] 97/21
Heights [1] 93/1
held [2] 30/1230/8
hello [12] 55/2058/566/1867/1175/20
79/1884/1088/9128/5130/23210/18
210/19
help [8] 26/1031/1452/1952/21102/4
116/19120/25229/7
helped [2] 177/25204/17
helpful [1] 116/13
helping [2] 37/15168/9
Henry [6] 43/945/1356/1265/2175/21
206/3
her [52] 51/352/2152/2554/2468/975/10
95/895/997/1997/20105/2105/3105/3
105/3105/7105/8105/9105/10106/21
107/12122/24129/12129/13143/13
143/16143/18143/25148/18148/25149/1
151/22151/23152/3152/3152/7152/10
152/14153/4153/4153/5153/11153/14
153/20154/1154/2154/4160/8168/4
175/23175/24176/3178/11
here [106] 4/55/2211/317/817/1123/3
25/425/627/228/329/529/729/1129/20
30/1231/1733/735/135/2136/736/20
36/2537/537/1838/338/1738/2039/12
39/2240/240/542/1743/1343/1748/11
61/2362/1166/1368/178/980/784/288/3
89/292/2097/799/5100/9107/2109/14
110/24129/7131/25135/14136/4136/24
153/15153/18154/2165/19180/3180/24
181/1181/4181/25182/7182/17182/21
182/24183/6183/8183/12183/17184/1
184/3184/4184/9184/11184/19185/20
185/24186/2193/1196/24200/22200/24
200/25201/2202/12204/20205/17207/1
211/3213/15214/11214/12217/21218/19
218/22219/16220/19220/24220/25
224/24225/21228/23
here's [1] 43/5
hereby [1] 230/6
Hertzberg [3] 36/2136/2236/24
hesitation [1] 152/19
HGTV [1] 67/20
hi [17] 52/158/1860/2470/1773/2074/10
75/276/2283/492/293/1395/1695/17
101/14138/8180/2185/4
hide [1] 226/7
high [6] 53/874/25206/1206/4208/4
208/5
higher [1] 57/16
highlight [1] 10/15
highlighting [2] 11/25107/5
him [48] 4/169/19/111/411/511/816/8
27/1927/2028/535/1743/2250/754/13
54/1798/1102/3102/4102/6102/7102/20
110/17138/3149/19150/12150/13150/15
150/17151/4151/8151/12151/13151/17
151/17153/23153/23174/19174/23
183/13185/21187/2202/22203/17204/17
206/7207/7225/12227/8
himself [3] 19/141/350/4
Hines [1] 60/24
hiring [2] 132/3177/24
his [53] 6/159/19/712/1619/1119/14
25/1926/126/727/927/2265/2496/398/2
109/9110/18122/24129/18129/21141/13
144/12149/19149/21150/6150/19150/20
150/21150/22151/1151/2151/5151/6
151/7151/9151/10159/2162/6166/2
169/8173/4174/10179/5183/6183/7
186/18186/22200/21202/22203/17
205/16206/7208/7213/20
history [4] 86/1151/22151/23164/25
hit [2] 7/6152/24
hmm [35] 56/859/1563/1463/1865/10
67/2369/2281/582/1098/25126/1126/4
127/20135/22138/1138/15143/21155/9
155/20157/11158/10159/8161/10161/24
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hmm... [11] 164/19170/9170/12195/9
198/9201/4202/4203/13203/21209/2
209/8
hold [5] 116/18120/24209/20209/20
214/20
Holland [1] 37/9
Holly [2] 5/2037/13
home [15] 46/748/1053/961/874/12
75/2275/2395/22106/21124/18172/16
176/1222/15223/22224/2
homeless [1] 102/7
homemaker [1] 68/5
honest [4] 97/599/10152/14152/22
honestly [4] 96/2098/12105/20160/7
honesty [2] 98/2199/5
Honor [56] 4/94/134/245/135/166/96/21
7/610/111/1311/2012/2514/1816/22
22/1723/1723/2223/2324/2325/1625/25
26/1426/1828/2539/1090/1793/8104/11
104/12106/5149/4150/2150/9150/10
151/20151/20153/2153/9154/7154/25
155/12156/8214/8215/9215/18215/23
217/15218/3218/7219/12219/13224/8
225/7227/3228/11229/12
HONORABLE [1] 2/11
hope [10] 30/1030/1595/1198/1198/12
98/1999/399/499/10152/23
hopeful [1] 99/8
hopefully [2] 156/19221/15
hoping [1] 159/13
Horner [1] 39/6
horse [1] 22/5
hour [7] 147/21148/13148/14193/15
197/13197/24198/11
hours [14] 30/23124/19127/23164/17
165/12165/19179/19191/25194/3195/4
196/9196/21197/13198/11
house [1] 76/25
housekeeping [2] 4/18220/10
houses [3] 71/371/6177/12
housewife [1] 46/8
how [98] 4/1518/2221/1326/2026/23
27/627/1127/1827/2328/2231/1739/19
49/1249/1550/2352/1454/2163/663/8
69/1072/174/2378/1291/1092/1193/23
94/17102/8102/12103/1108/15110/23
112/9112/12112/13112/21114/11114/13
127/5127/8128/10128/18131/7131/8
131/18133/6133/21136/9138/8139/16
141/25145/6146/12147/9148/7148/11
157/21157/22159/5159/5161/19163/7
164/2164/5166/12169/11177/8177/11
178/5179/7184/21185/4186/24188/4
188/16188/19189/22190/9190/14192/20
193/13194/1195/2196/7196/19197/11
197/22198/10198/18200/24205/12
205/14207/15207/25208/24221/6222/4
228/5
however [3] 1/880/19227/7
HR [7] 65/2270/2182/14126/9130/15
157/3163/11
huge [1] 152/1
Hughes [1] 53/20
huh [4] 108/21147/16173/6191/12
Huh-uh [1] 147/16
Hulu [2] 73/773/7
human [2] 152/14212/11
Hunt [1] 53/3
Hunter [3] 69/199/22219/4
Hurricanes [1] 68/13
husband [19] 53/661/365/2467/1672/2
72/1774/2075/2482/1483/684/13128/22
162/6169/8169/18179/3188/13198/6
206/16
husband's [8] 72/11108/2181/10181/15
186/10187/22187/23206/12
I
I'd [14] 7/110/1321/1929/330/1333/3
39/252/669/477/982/18115/8152/11
165/15
I'll [22] 17/1430/1334/250/1956/573/4
81/2389/1489/1597/19116/11116/20
116/21150/11154/17180/11184/14185/8
205/8223/17228/23229/8
I'm [225] 4/215/116/166/226/258/24
14/1617/2519/1019/1819/1920/1221/3
21/1921/1921/2021/2122/1422/1528/19
30/730/1631/1731/2131/2334/734/20
34/2034/2235/435/835/2536/2337/5
38/1038/1338/2339/239/2541/141/10
42/142/1143/144/144/344/544/744/20
44/2344/2445/2346/546/646/646/748/22
50/2151/1052/753/1553/1953/2053/21
54/854/1054/1455/2255/2356/256/3
57/1357/1558/258/1858/1958/1958/21
58/2360/360/661/2261/2464/565/465/22
66/1567/167/267/567/1267/1367/20
68/1969/369/2369/2469/2570/1772/21
72/2474/1074/1074/1874/2175/1575/20
75/2276/2276/2577/1178/2378/2479/18
79/2180/1481/882/582/582/1182/1383/5
83/1783/1883/2584/2385/485/485/7
85/2085/2487/489/1890/390/2496/20
96/2097/1398/1298/1999/599/999/11
100/15101/21101/23102/6102/14102/14
102/19103/3103/8103/15103/20105/21
111/18114/6114/7114/16116/11118/7
124/12124/14124/17124/17124/18
127/15136/10136/24138/19140/4148/11
149/10149/10151/15151/16154/4154/8
154/9154/21156/2159/2160/7165/7
166/7167/11176/10179/19180/14181/11
181/23182/4182/5185/15186/4186/4
187/6193/2193/5195/25199/17201/9
202/15202/16205/3205/17206/20207/19
211/16213/1213/3215/10216/4216/4
216/6217/3217/5219/25220/9220/10
225/25226/19227/21227/23228/7
I've [90] 4/218/1910/1718/1121/2421/25
36/839/1644/344/1145/1448/1252/253/3
53/1054/154/354/1755/458/1060/660/8
66/266/1966/2268/168/769/170/170/3
70/370/1872/1572/2072/2573/2174/11
74/1575/375/2176/376/2378/978/22
79/1979/2280/1882/482/1283/884/15
84/1684/2485/285/2486/1887/1096/21
96/2398/1899/399/17106/19107/4115/1
118/2121/12122/14123/19127/18132/5
132/6156/18177/23177/24178/11190/8
192/3193/7193/20194/24198/15199/18
201/24202/18209/1211/10214/1226/13
228/7
ICU [2] 80/480/5
ID [1] 228/18
idea [2] 35/596/11
ideas [1] 42/20
identification [2] 13/1619/14
identified [2] 16/5210/7
identify [1] 20/7
identifying [1] 20/9
identity [11] 12/2141/2446/2147/847/13
68/990/590/790/20112/18228/10
illegal [1] 17/23
imagine [1] 103/16
immediate [13] 38/7117/18117/24118/5
118/24119/20120/21121/14122/16
122/18123/15145/3170/25
impact [23] 31/849/2249/2450/1155/6
72/473/1279/1185/1286/1192/1793/4
94/794/994/1294/25106/1107/15108/7
108/17110/7110/23226/2
impacted [2] 12/12223/7
impartial [16] 31/931/1031/1633/20
118/22119/6119/15119/18120/6121/17
124/3139/3144/15147/15171/24185/25
impartiality [1] 144/19
implement [1] 140/5
implementing [1] 140/16
important [12] 29/2430/930/1042/22
46/2255/1259/11116/4159/25183/11
223/23225/21
importantly [1] 23/3
impose [1] 40/1
impossible [2] 26/2439/14
impression [2] 153/20153/25
improving [1] 140/15
incarcerated [1] 70/13
incident [1] 56/14
incidents [1] 55/25
inclined [2] 154/4154/8
include [5] 5/45/56/117/23121/21
included [2] 109/9173/22
includes [3] 15/1615/19221/7
including [4] 46/18112/6112/17112/19
inclusion [1] 58/7
income [1] 122/12
inconvenient [1] 29/21
indecent [2] 101/21153/20
independent [2] 70/2097/8
indicated [20] 125/4127/16129/8129/15
129/24132/25136/6138/10138/25139/9
141/10141/17142/10145/23147/6168/14
168/20171/6175/1175/15
indictment [9] 12/1913/413/413/19
16/1918/1721/10117/15121/5
indictments [2] 14/317/2
individual [5] 97/16115/7116/3116/21
151/21
individually [1] 115/6
individuals [3] 118/14118/16167/16
Industrial [1] 106/22
Industries [5] 13/8121/7121/8180/17
180/17
industry [8] 126/20129/10131/10
133/18137/20139/10139/10183/10
inextricably [7] 19/219/1219/2422/16
24/524/527/13
influence [2] 146/12150/20
information [8] 14/2125/2126/2233/9
141/3166/11179/20228/21
informed [2] 123/22227/1
initial [3] 110/22110/22149/19
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initially [2] 116/20212/9
Innocence [1] 123/22
innocent [4] 35/1535/1797/397/4
inquire [1] 227/9
ins [1] 179/19
Instagram [1] 192/11
instance [1] 17/11
instead [2] 25/20191/18
institution [2] 117/9184/2
instruct [1] 120/8
instruction [11] 17/2318/124/1625/3
25/525/926/226/426/1528/1657/19
instructions [23] 17/2018/218/1342/15
42/1842/2146/2447/2159/1461/1988/10
111/8120/10120/12120/16120/18222/4
223/17228/3228/6228/10228/13228/16
instructs [1] 102/25
insurance [5] 53/553/781/8161/17
166/4
insured [1] 117/8
integral [2] 19/2127/14
intel [1] 58/6
intelligence [3] 212/10212/11212/13
intelligence-gathering [1] 212/13
intend [3] 19/619/7154/10
intended [2] 31/5154/23
intent [2] 96/2297/14
intentional [1] 23/21
interacted [1] 113/12
interacting [1] 27/23
intercepting [1] 212/10
interest [1] 107/11
interesting [3] 81/2281/24149/3
interfere [3] 136/21162/2170/14
interim [1] 228/22
interior [2] 53/23133/3
Internal [1] 119/4
Internal Revenue Service [1] 119/4
international [3] 84/6140/5140/11
interns [2] 29/729/10
internship [1] 141/6
internships [1] 136/13
interpret [1] 114/2
interstate [1] 205/4
intertwined [6] 19/219/1219/2422/16
24/527/13
interview [6] 5/18/98/239/910/556/6
intrinsic [3] 24/424/427/5
introduce [6] 6/46/176/2329/336/25
38/11
introduced [1] 37/20
Intuit [1] 189/19
inverse [1] 184/14
invest [2] 191/16191/22
invested [1] 187/9
investigate [1] 207/9
investigation [3] 9/8119/4136/15
investigator [1] 206/16
investigators [1] 119/24
investments [1] 188/9
investor [2] 186/6186/8
investors [5] 181/25182/1186/11187/21
188/5
invoke [3] 7/97/107/25
involve [3] 90/790/9105/23
involved [9] 36/19119/21158/4163/23
164/3171/20172/11174/17179/17
involvement [2] 139/20147/13
involves [1] 117/6
involving [3] 24/791/7107/9
IRS [12] 4/125/1916/1637/13119/12
119/14182/22183/19184/15185/18
203/23209/4
is [479]
ish [1] 115/9
Island [2] 50/2582/7
isn't [2] 27/10146/20
issue [26] 4/258/2110/1512/214/814/9
19/520/1321/1122/2127/327/447/794/15
111/4111/6111/17111/19111/21112/20
114/3131/14143/5143/8227/22228/18
issued [1] 129/10
issues [14] 8/1715/1622/641/2452/25
111/5117/25118/6130/25144/14148/17
153/4171/19179/22
issuing [1] 121/25
it [456]
it's [119] 7/239/99/139/149/149/179/17
14/715/915/1015/1116/419/1619/2121/2
21/521/921/1121/2422/222/824/324/9
24/1225/625/1126/1227/827/2028/328/7
28/728/728/828/1128/1428/2531/1733/1
41/541/641/1241/1942/2244/1749/5
50/1851/2452/2354/1154/1754/2459/11
64/2372/1278/281/2282/1782/2192/12
92/1596/1297/15103/16106/1108/3
108/14109/25109/25124/20125/3134/7
137/2138/19140/20140/21142/3142/8
143/13159/22159/22164/24167/25168/8
169/4171/2171/5173/4176/7177/10
178/12179/13180/17186/12187/4187/13
187/15191/9192/3192/11192/21193/15
193/16195/12196/3200/15200/22206/23
212/23221/16222/1222/1222/17222/19
225/9225/21226/6226/10228/5
items [1] 89/15
its [1] 218/5
J
jail [5] 97/25102/1102/20153/20184/1
Jamaica [1] 48/11
James [2] 39/683/15
Jamie [1] 58/5
JANA [3] 2/20230/4230/18
Je'Tavia [2] 48/22218/25
Jefferson [5] 29/25170/21206/16
206/19206/20
Jehovah [2] 40/2240/24
Jehovah's [2] 40/17149/25
Jehovist [1] 41/2
Jersey [1] 44/24
job [12] 29/10127/16127/17127/18
145/22150/22159/10160/15201/21
201/21211/21212/8
jobs [1] 98/2
John [2] 73/20213/8
joined [3] 4/114/14173/16
joining [1] 173/12
Jonesboro [1] 206/14
Jose [1] 67/25
JPMorgan [4] 117/17117/23125/5
125/13
Juanneeka [2] 51/9219/1
judge [23] 29/1637/2140/2541/341/4
41/1094/1498/23102/21102/21103/4
115/1136/23147/18151/7156/17165/10
179/24183/7185/21185/21215/6222/23
judges [2] 30/5145/16
judging [1] 40/18
judgment [1] 150/8
judgments [1] 87/19
JULY [5] 2/124/312/1814/12230/8
July 1st [1] 12/18
July 9th [1] 14/12
jump [1] 222/6
jumping [1] 213/1
junctures [1] 152/5
juror [88] 32/540/1340/1541/1743/24
44/245/1346/548/948/2253/1955/2156/9
61/2265/2166/1967/1267/2469/2472/5
75/2076/2279/1880/1382/1291/191/3
92/193/1295/1495/1597/799/2299/23
103/23103/24104/15106/12107/7107/22
108/24110/15110/16115/22118/22
119/19120/6120/20121/17124/3125/2
128/5130/23133/17135/8138/8139/8
144/15147/15150/20151/20155/15
156/20157/12158/11158/24159/9160/19
163/2164/13165/22166/25168/19170/1
171/24173/7174/4175/14176/5177/21
178/8178/15179/1179/10215/15215/15
215/15215/15
jurors [25] 4/1929/1230/631/1033/19
34/1248/387/1589/890/4115/19147/1
148/5155/8155/14155/22156/10215/5
215/25216/10217/17218/15220/4222/4
225/4
jury [137] 4/54/164/198/158/158/158/19
10/910/1116/716/1416/1817/1918/10
18/2020/324/1624/1725/1526/726/22
26/2228/528/1828/2129/629/729/829/18
29/2331/131/1531/2233/1633/2133/24
34/2339/1440/340/640/840/1140/19
40/2342/1243/643/1644/1145/1746/10
48/1248/2551/1352/553/1054/155/24
56/1456/2457/557/958/1058/2460/7
61/1061/1461/1662/266/266/2267/18
68/769/469/769/1669/1870/170/2271/19
72/2573/2574/1575/676/377/678/10
78/1078/2579/2280/1880/2481/1082/16
83/883/2184/1584/2585/285/1385/25
86/2087/1699/4102/17110/24117/2
119/2119/23122/23123/22124/9149/13
152/8156/2156/7164/1164/2205/14
216/13216/21217/5217/22218/15218/17
218/22219/11219/18220/7221/3221/10
222/4225/22226/3228/2228/6228/24
228/25
just [171] 5/26/26/228/411/2115/216/9
16/1717/2220/1520/1821/822/625/13
25/1726/1627/732/1233/233/333/733/18
34/537/2041/1242/643/2545/445/2347/6
50/650/750/1750/2152/953/2156/656/20
56/2259/559/2060/461/2362/1065/465/6
68/1468/1568/1671/1074/177/379/6
80/1682/883/2485/486/2288/1189/11
89/1490/390/2596/1296/2197/398/298/7
98/998/1499/699/999/11101/22101/22
102/7102/13102/14102/14102/19102/20
103/13107/11110/21111/3111/15112/7
112/17113/25114/3114/16116/7116/22
124/11124/20126/16126/20129/12
129/13130/15131/9131/21136/18136/23
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just... [67] 136/24137/2138/22138/24
139/5142/8142/9143/8146/13148/11
149/1149/13150/22154/20157/1157/3
158/17160/11168/11170/4170/15173/23
175/24177/4177/10179/18179/20180/2
183/6183/12184/13185/20185/25186/2
186/15186/17189/19189/21190/13
192/10192/21199/3199/3199/5199/15
199/21200/24205/10206/14207/3207/4
211/23213/19214/25215/12217/8218/8
218/12219/20221/9221/23225/11225/18
226/7226/10226/17228/13
justice [11] 11/238/841/1846/1859/23
99/9109/24110/9120/2120/5158/4
justify [2] 225/16226/18
juvenile [2] 86/186/2
K
K-1s [1] 168/8
Kamal [2] 78/9219/9
Kamal Mourad [1] 78/9
KARL [4] 2/635/11117/7230/10
Karl Lucius Delano [1] 35/11
Kate [1] 84/10
Kathleen [2] 75/21219/8
Kayla [1] 58/18
keep [16] 7/227/2334/1659/1268/21
87/7110/10135/3135/17147/1149/11
170/15205/19209/7213/14223/10
Kelley [5] 31/1834/7217/24218/10
219/19
Kelli [1] 39/6
Kelli Carpenter [1] 39/6
Kelly [4] 3/34/1037/5116/11
Kelly Connors [3] 4/1037/5116/11
Kendra [1] 37/9
kept [1] 105/10
Kerr [2] 40/1548/9
key [1] 21/9
kicks [1] 195/8
kid [3] 84/2584/2591/11
kidding [1] 214/25
kids [26] 36/939/2544/844/1748/2451/6
51/1251/2352/454/2455/2356/1362/1
67/1769/370/970/2074/1474/2375/5
75/2581/982/5126/11129/1184/25
killed [1] 106/21
killing [1] 54/12
Kilpatrick [3] 173/13173/15173/16
kind [52] 8/2018/1221/1647/447/649/18
49/1850/550/571/171/277/1477/1780/2
81/1782/2296/596/796/1398/8103/13
111/3111/5111/21111/23112/15112/18
112/19112/20119/21130/17143/7146/11
146/14147/1157/21167/19167/20169/16
169/17176/2179/14185/15197/20199/20
203/23205/5208/14211/24211/25221/14
225/16
kinds [5] 77/1288/1112/6136/12165/2
King [3] 52/191/1219/2
knew [8] 49/21104/25128/6129/9
133/17139/9177/15178/16
Knicks [3] 44/2145/945/10
know [186] 5/57/79/1514/1117/917/12
17/2221/1521/1621/2121/2122/1122/21
23/1325/1726/526/1626/2326/2327/10
28/1130/831/534/2535/635/2135/23
36/2237/1938/338/638/1838/2538/25
39/139/841/2042/2446/1347/948/1449/2
49/349/450/450/650/750/852/2253/21
55/1155/2556/456/2056/2162/764/365/7
68/868/1570/2573/173/983/185/1886/10
87/1087/1988/488/1488/2190/1890/21
97/197/297/1097/2398/1498/17100/20
101/1101/2101/2102/8102/14103/3
103/13105/4109/16109/25110/9111/6
111/6114/8116/7117/3120/14123/13
126/19128/12128/15132/19134/2134/15
134/24135/10138/22138/24138/25143/8
143/24144/1147/23149/10149/18149/18
153/15153/23157/21158/3159/10162/15
167/1168/1169/14169/20170/22171/10
172/14172/14172/17173/7174/8174/10
174/15176/7176/12177/1177/8177/10
179/7180/6180/16181/1181/5183/9
186/12187/6188/6191/25199/3199/4
199/4199/9199/10199/10199/12199/14
199/24199/24200/4200/7200/18200/20
200/21201/7201/8201/19202/15204/17
205/15205/15207/13208/16208/17
213/10218/10222/12223/2223/2223/7
223/21223/25225/22228/3228/22
knowing [5] 47/650/755/12205/15
205/15
knowledge [5] 47/6117/11136/23161/4
183/8
known [10] 2/635/1135/1338/1438/19
70/3117/7176/16178/11230/9
knows [4] 32/1636/1836/20183/1
Kobina [1] 39/6
Kobina Oppong [1] 39/6
Korean [1] 211/17
Kremkov [5] 13/8121/7121/8180/16
180/17
Kremkov Industries [2] 121/7121/8
KSU [1] 68/6
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labor [1] 163/19
lack [1] 19/25
lady [1] 87/24
landscape [1] 15/11
language [2] 25/7212/11
larger [1] 161/16
Lasso [2] 74/1677/12
last [19] 12/1526/1935/1650/2471/10
75/1175/2293/24107/21114/16136/10
136/15147/5147/10148/18176/13193/4
193/7202/6
late [2] 229/4229/5
lately [1] 61/7
later [13] 11/714/2117/917/1023/924/12
33/333/436/1048/569/577/10160/4
laundering [2] 35/12185/19
Laura [2] 45/13218/24
Laura Deweese [1] 45/13
law [81] 3/423/129/1131/1138/2142/14
42/1542/2042/2342/2442/2543/246/24
46/2447/147/747/1647/1647/1747/21
59/859/2372/1473/878/478/579/1580/10
85/694/1494/1598/2499/1102/22102/23
102/25113/9113/12113/14113/20114/1
119/5119/9120/8123/12123/16139/1
145/3145/12145/13149/22150/17150/18
151/6151/7157/16161/18163/13163/15
170/19170/21170/22171/5172/25173/4
173/11175/1175/6175/6175/9183/15
192/4202/9202/15203/3203/14204/5
205/13205/23207/15207/21
lawsuit [3] 119/21171/21172/11
lawyer [3] 38/14171/16173/3
lawyers [5] 12/1630/25145/17217/21
217/25
lay [1] 47/8
leading [1] 140/4
league [2] 175/21175/21
leaning [1] 57/20
learn [6] 112/12112/13112/21113/2
163/21183/3
learned [1] 117/13
learning [3] 59/1359/22191/20
least [10] 19/1626/1030/1592/8119/11
123/13160/13168/10187/1228/9
leave [9] 29/129/554/1854/1963/763/8
182/19224/22224/24
leaving [2] 88/25224/12
lee [11] 39/641/1846/6110/15110/21
149/18150/10154/19184/13184/18
211/13
Lee Horner [1] 39/6
leeway [1] 110/4
left [9] 27/1739/988/1888/24139/14
180/7200/9201/1212/18
legal [11] 24/1377/1896/896/1396/22
97/1097/1197/15112/1151/25175/1
legs [1] 34/3
Leigh [2] 4/1438/13
Leigh Finlayson [2] 4/1438/13
lender [1] 171/7
lengthy [3] 8/129/697/24
less [2] 20/10188/8
lesser [1] 151/16
let [32] 6/210/1312/817/2226/1627/1
32/2435/1646/1763/664/578/1284/25
88/14116/7127/13131/16135/4138/6
139/5184/11216/9217/21218/10220/11
220/14223/24224/5225/20226/25228/22
229/5
let's [53] 11/921/522/228/2228/2290/24
91/24115/11115/17121/2121/3121/3
121/12122/14122/21123/14123/18
123/23125/1125/1127/14128/18129/13
132/24134/24135/4137/7138/10141/1
141/9144/21147/20149/7153/17158/11
158/24164/13170/1170/1174/4175/14
177/21178/15179/1179/10181/13181/13
182/16186/6213/14220/21221/18229/5
level [1] 151/15
license [2] 23/523/11
licenses [3] 23/723/827/24
life [9] 31/760/362/1179/2096/398/3
99/18199/5207/7
lifelong [1] 64/11
lifetime [1] 74/13
light [2] 9/225/9
Lighting [1] 146/8
like [203] 5/167/1210/1315/317/25
20/1120/2421/2022/1022/1024/724/9
27/828/328/729/430/330/1331/2331/23
34/436/839/1539/1840/640/741/641/12
41/1541/1643/1645/2146/148/2349/1
49/549/850/150/450/750/750/750/19
51/1851/2452/652/752/1053/1554/13
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like... [153] 56/456/2558/1959/459/22
62/1262/1263/1064/665/565/566/23
68/1268/1268/1469/569/670/270/671/5
73/773/873/1074/274/1674/1674/17
74/1877/2178/2279/581/1381/1581/20
82/1883/1184/1885/2286/788/490/21
91/1896/496/2397/298/1198/1299/7
100/25103/20105/4105/24110/1110/4
110/8111/23112/1112/2115/8116/16
116/23126/9127/10128/16130/19131/4
132/4132/12133/10134/9134/11136/6
136/13136/15136/16137/10137/14
137/17137/22138/4138/19140/13140/14
140/25144/10149/4150/19151/18151/22
152/11152/17152/23153/16155/15157/5
157/13157/14157/16157/16159/23
160/11160/14160/23162/11162/16
162/18164/22165/2165/4166/14166/14
167/15167/16167/21167/22168/23
170/25172/14173/4177/11177/13177/13
179/8180/7180/10182/19183/19185/23
191/6192/11192/13199/9199/10199/21
201/13201/14201/24202/12202/13
202/13203/8204/16204/19205/4208/1
208/8208/10222/23222/24223/4223/5
226/5226/10
liked [1] 72/16
likelihood [1] 18/12
liken [1] 111/5
likes [1] 164/13
limit [1] 112/17
limiting [3] 25/325/926/2
limits [1] 149/10
line [1] 1/6
lines [1] 9/3
linger [1] 108/10
linguist [1] 212/12
Lise [1] 67/11
list [5] 32/938/2339/343/2588/21
listen [36] 39/244/1745/2245/2446/16
48/1848/1949/751/1852/853/1654/556/4
56/2158/1659/560/1161/861/962/466/6
67/370/771/2474/1875/1476/879/580/1
81/1182/882/2184/19102/18136/23
146/14
listening [3] 31/287/17153/10
Lithonia [1] 208/5
litigation [1] 119/22
little [39] 25/525/625/1728/231/434/2
41/1943/2159/1977/1583/1693/1997/2
98/1499/8104/23110/4110/25128/24
128/25136/18146/8153/2156/19156/23
160/24161/18172/16175/21175/21180/8
180/15181/1185/16187/3208/16210/4
221/16223/1
live [40] 8/631/2343/743/1444/245/13
48/951/1053/353/2055/2158/1860/3
60/2561/761/2362/1462/1562/1662/22
65/2166/1967/2569/2471/1672/2074/11
76/2378/2179/1980/1481/783/583/16
84/1184/2385/19102/6105/11222/16
lived [15] 52/261/566/2067/1273/21
75/375/2176/2376/2479/1982/482/12
86/1895/25193/22
lives [1] 134/21
living [13] 44/346/651/1052/369/270/9
72/2174/2078/1478/2292/22124/20
176/1
Liz [1] 83/4
LLC [2] 121/7121/9
load [1] 42/8
loan [44] 25/24117/8121/6121/10
121/11121/16121/19125/9125/22128/14
133/13133/18134/5137/9138/12138/22
139/10139/21142/12144/7144/11174/6
174/9174/11174/16176/6176/8176/10
176/13176/16176/17176/20176/24179/2
179/4180/22180/24181/2181/2181/8
181/16181/17185/17187/13
loans [14] 117/25118/6121/18121/21
128/13128/15128/16129/10130/25
131/14138/3139/20180/21181/5
local [8] 83/24114/1119/5127/10183/19
183/20202/14202/14
location [1] 177/11
Lockheed [1] 85/1
logic [3] 109/25109/25110/9
logical [1] 110/9
logistics [6] 65/24122/19129/16141/11
180/18180/19
London [4] 66/1977/595/1495/16
long [46] 49/1252/1461/563/763/869/10
78/278/285/391/1092/1193/2396/6102/8
105/7108/14116/24127/6127/8128/10
128/18131/7131/18133/6133/21137/23
139/16141/25145/6147/9161/19163/7
164/5178/5180/13193/13194/1195/2
196/3196/7196/19197/11197/22198/10
207/25208/24
longer [4] 125/12141/8148/7148/11
look [10] 88/1788/2488/2497/2098/9
117/2146/12146/13150/25213/12
looking [9] 39/2539/2558/3106/24
183/12186/2202/16207/14212/16
looks [2] 155/15225/18
lose [2] 155/14160/15
losing [1] 124/17
loss [1] 94/20
losses [1] 13/8
lost [1] 216/4
lot [38] 20/1021/1521/1928/939/23
39/2441/2542/2244/1552/2555/1164/22
68/1375/1484/1786/589/2490/490/21
94/2396/24105/3148/10159/2179/18
180/3186/15188/7188/8191/18192/5
200/21200/25207/1207/11207/11207/11
210/5
Louisiana [3] 67/295/21128/7
love [8] 50/2558/1166/470/674/1782/7
214/1214/7
loved [3] 77/2478/278/3
loving [1] 213/19
lower [1] 30/13
Lowndes [2] 204/7204/8
LSU [1] 67/2
LUCIUS [3] 2/635/11230/10
luck [3] 60/2067/767/10
Luckie [2] 70/17219/5
lunch [3] 89/24147/20155/4
lunchroom [1] 148/4
lying [1] 9/5
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ma'am [35] 51/851/2591/23106/7
106/13118/7122/21128/4130/22131/11
131/15132/13132/23133/2133/5133/11
133/15135/10156/23158/12159/10
159/12160/16160/18170/17175/12186/8
187/20193/6194/20195/14197/6198/3
201/7205/3
machine [1] 230/7
made [10] 8/259/159/179/1725/1028/12
51/5143/17156/18186/3
made-up [1] 28/12
main [2] 84/18111/4
mainly [3] 67/167/280/1
mainstream [1] 80/1
maintains [1] 152/6
maintenance [1] 177/12
major [1] 58/21
majority [5] 25/1979/20188/14188/15
201/2
majors [1] 201/25
make [49] 11/1717/2118/119/320/720/8
22/725/1126/626/1030/1630/2031/10
31/1632/2339/239/1340/242/1647/5
55/1459/2063/2372/788/2497/6119/18
120/5124/2125/3127/14127/22137/4
147/23147/24150/18161/1162/2165/2
165/3180/4195/3195/5209/20210/9
212/24215/12216/15225/20
makes [7] 20/1024/939/22151/11
191/17191/21194/11
making [4] 112/15157/3179/20185/4
mal [1] 161/18
Maldonado [1] 86/17
man [2] 88/3183/16
managed [1] 137/17
management [5] 67/1775/4140/3
162/10162/14
manager [9] 44/446/858/785/20125/25
130/9130/12157/7179/16
managing [1] 144/10
mandated [1] 13/25
mandatory [2] 211/19211/20
manner [2] 119/15218/5
manufacturer [1] 75/4
many [14] 111/16118/14132/6136/9
139/11161/22164/2169/12177/8178/23
179/7188/4191/21192/20
March [1] 12/17
March 3rd [1] 12/17
Marcus [2] 5/1437/12
Marietta [1] 206/6
Marine [2] 30/8224/11
mark [1] 152/24
marketing [2] 159/2159/3
marriage [3] 122/22170/3170/5
married [41] 44/745/1646/748/1048/24
51/1152/353/653/2355/2356/1358/8
58/2360/661/362/164/1165/2466/566/21
67/1668/470/2071/1772/2473/2374/14
75/575/2477/178/2479/2180/1581/882/5
82/1483/1884/1285/2386/19198/6
marshals [3] 225/20225/22226/25
martial [1] 184/10
Martin [1] 85/1
master [1] 66/9
master's [1] 77/4
material [1] 18/9
math [4] 14/1367/572/22216/10
Matt [1] 39/5
Matt Bearden [1] 39/5
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matter [10] 7/219/1531/635/6100/18
151/25159/22225/7228/10230/8
matters [3] 4/1841/9220/10
may [26] 1/21/54/75/66/56/79/89/810/1
29/2037/1137/1452/18120/23146/18
146/19146/19161/9167/24167/25174/15
176/16182/21192/1225/8227/6
maybe [23] 17/1218/2020/520/821/25
22/124/525/629/642/2349/1460/1062/12
63/1076/2478/1097/16133/10181/9
182/25208/1214/17221/20
me [121] 4/155/116/26/2410/1312/8
17/2218/1419/1921/1124/1624/1725/15
25/2526/926/1026/1628/2029/2530/5
30/2031/132/2433/235/1636/836/10
37/2140/1640/2242/846/1750/1951/5
54/1254/2157/658/463/666/768/268/17
69/769/1570/874/375/1078/1280/281/17
84/384/2484/2585/1086/688/1490/25
92/292/693/1996/1299/24100/20101/5
101/14101/17102/12104/1104/17104/20
104/23106/13108/1109/6110/25112/7
112/23124/19124/20127/13131/16135/4
138/6139/5142/9143/24146/22150/10
151/11153/3154/9161/14163/6166/7
171/15172/6172/15179/13179/24180/9
184/11192/21195/7202/12203/9205/18
207/13212/11216/9217/8218/10218/12
220/14221/4222/23224/5225/21226/20
226/21228/22230/12
mean [35] 9/1115/1820/721/821/2228/3
28/749/655/1059/881/1395/7102/24
112/1114/9132/14134/8148/16148/17
149/4149/11149/22153/3154/9160/4
165/18174/19184/22199/1204/16205/17
208/17216/6222/24226/4
meaningful [1] 30/11
means [11] 30/2131/1833/1934/18
152/24155/13213/10220/23220/24
224/12228/24
meant [2] 33/1170/4
mechanical [2] 2/18129/3
med [2] 76/7161/18
med-mal [1] 161/18
media [7] 112/8113/8191/17191/20
192/7199/16199/19
medical [2] 45/2153/15
meet [5] 43/11186/24188/16221/10
221/23
Melissa [2] 71/15219/6
member [47] 38/2039/14117/24118/4
118/4118/19119/2119/8119/13119/20
119/23120/21121/10121/11121/14
121/15121/18121/19122/16122/18
122/23122/23123/15129/15132/25137/8
138/11141/10141/18144/22145/3158/14
158/25163/5165/24168/3169/7170/19
170/20171/1172/24174/5175/15176/20
177/15178/9183/18
members [2] 131/13183/15
meme [1] 184/25
memory [2] 94/20213/19
men [1] 61/8
Mendoza [1] 67/25
mental [3] 39/21103/10153/22
mention [3] 42/662/6112/18
mentioned [8] 124/6134/15144/5146/1
158/3187/20192/6202/3
Mercedes [1] 131/22
merely [1] 13/19
mess [1] 7/2
message [3] 44/10184/24185/4
met [5] 75/977/9104/24105/13107/12
meth [1] 108/3
Miami [3] 62/1965/668/1
mic [1] 181/13
MICHAEL [3] 2/1185/1785/18
micro [1] 191/25
microphone [3] 32/1343/23209/21
might [62] 6/187/1518/918/2519/13
19/1620/324/1024/1024/1526/2427/15
30/2530/2531/131/731/832/1432/14
36/1937/1538/2438/2539/142/2245/6
52/2555/1658/2559/1359/1859/2162/5
63/363/463/2264/372/781/290/1395/18
97/699/24101/14106/13107/23109/3
110/23113/22113/23114/4119/17120/5
124/2146/22149/23151/13152/16215/6
223/10226/3226/11
Mike [1] 29/16
military [8] 184/9184/12211/13211/14
211/18211/22212/5212/8
Milk [1] 72/15
million [3] 28/1328/14172/14
millions [2] 187/9188/11
mind [9] 59/1280/2385/1687/791/14
125/2149/11186/3223/10
minding [1] 85/5
mine [7] 48/1456/1556/18181/12183/9
206/1213/19
mines [3] 183/9199/14199/21
minimal [1] 12/20
mining [3] 122/17180/17183/10
minors [1] 210/5
minute [5] 17/15214/15214/16214/17
218/8
minutes [8] 10/2189/21148/17149/1
214/10214/18216/25222/3
Misappropriating [1] 171/13
misplacing [1] 171/11
miss [1] 90/25
missed [3] 45/368/19160/3
missing [8] 39/3105/4105/6115/21
115/22156/12217/19226/19
misspoke [1] 170/4
mistake [10] 19/119/2520/820/1122/23
23/2027/2127/2596/9143/17
mistakenly [1] 20/6
mistakes [3] 20/7195/4195/5
mix [1] 69/2
MLB [3] 2/449/6230/10
MobLand [1] 68/12
mode [1] 87/17
moderate [1] 48/2
modification [1] 52/12
modified [2] 12/2226/16
modify [1] 17/21
mom [8] 50/2062/1063/663/1573/3
74/1283/9145/5
moment [6] 20/231/1734/8101/24
105/13149/12
Monday [5] 60/587/24159/11159/18
160/4
money [13] 11/335/12105/4105/6
123/20124/18137/14137/18174/12
174/16185/18191/18192/18
Monica [1] 39/5
Monica Sweeten [1] 39/5
Monster [2] 65/2266/10
month [5] 22/1105/5105/6136/15187/1
months [3] 36/11102/1211/24
moral [1] 42/2
more [58] 9/314/514/1214/2515/215/3
18/124/327/2029/730/933/340/147/24
59/1859/1965/1474/1883/2597/1599/8
110/4113/23114/4128/24128/25134/8
134/13139/18140/14145/14145/19
145/20148/14151/12154/19155/14
155/19155/24161/14164/15166/19
167/18172/19172/21182/4184/16185/11
186/21194/9199/17203/8216/17216/17
220/9223/17224/23227/1
morning [25] 4/94/136/1729/1537/4
38/1344/145/1248/2153/260/265/20
67/2469/2371/1572/1978/881/682/3
83/1584/2285/1791/4220/15224/16
mortgage [4] 128/16143/13143/19
172/7
most [21] 21/1123/223/330/2433/533/6
33/2044/1548/1648/1858/1662/1179/16
83/9112/3116/14159/24194/25214/12
214/17219/16
mostly [18] 5/256/635/139/2344/15
48/1856/2164/2374/174/1275/1377/12
83/24127/25130/17140/18151/10192/10
mother [4] 94/19104/4153/21175/17
motion [7] 11/212/1412/1615/1215/14
17/1718/5
motions [4] 4/2112/919/11215/20
motive [1] 19/25
Mourad [2] 78/9219/9
move [5] 36/365/5137/14200/23226/11
moved [6] 62/11105/10131/9163/11
200/8200/21
moves [1] 191/24
movie [1] 83/25
moving [3] 116/1202/9226/10
Mr [2] 37/19211/13
Mr. [47] 4/144/144/168/98/139/915/8
15/2115/2117/1924/324/924/1532/3
32/1236/2438/1038/1538/1838/1843/18
55/1991/2599/22103/23103/25107/6
108/23109/2110/15110/21149/18150/10
150/13152/2152/9153/13154/19179/25
183/3183/12184/13184/18185/17186/3
218/4225/8
Mr. Adeyey [1] 91/25
Mr. Adeyeye [2] 108/23109/2
Mr. Delano [15] 4/144/144/168/98/13
9/915/2115/2138/1538/18183/3183/12
185/17186/3225/8
Mr. Ellison [2] 103/23103/25
Mr. Finlayson [11] 15/817/1924/924/15
38/1038/18152/2152/9153/13179/25
218/4
Mr. Finlayson's [2] 24/3150/13
Mr. Hertzberg [1] 36/24
Mr. Hunter [1] 99/22
Mr. Lee [7] 110/15110/21149/18150/10
154/19184/13184/18
Mr. Rosselot [1] 107/6
Mr. Salaam [3] 32/332/1243/18
Mr. Vaughan [1] 55/19
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Ms [12] 91/193/1193/1395/1495/16
101/12101/13101/14104/14104/17
107/21107/23
Ms. [12] 31/1834/737/337/19104/16
106/11148/7156/13156/16217/24218/10
219/19
Ms. Connors [5] 37/337/19148/7156/13
156/16
Ms. Fisher [1] 104/16
Ms. Kelley [5] 31/1834/7217/24218/10
219/19
Ms. Oleary [1] 106/11
much [63] 15/1124/329/1438/2241/13
46/1447/2453/1758/1759/2561/2166/16
67/2268/2374/875/175/1976/1979/4
80/1281/481/2081/2583/383/1384/8
85/1586/586/2591/2193/995/1199/19
106/7108/20110/11111/15114/7128/4
131/9133/16135/6148/7148/11156/2
158/9163/1166/12168/18173/25178/7
178/14188/9198/25199/9199/10200/18
217/3220/2220/9224/19226/9227/7
muddy [1] 16/25
multiple [4] 15/1694/21127/14150/3
mundane [1] 28/14
murder [1] 79/1
murdered [5] 91/9100/8100/11106/21
108/13
Muriel [1] 82/11
music [9] 48/1951/1852/954/656/6
68/1568/1680/186/22
musician [2] 82/1382/22
Muskogee [1] 202/21
must [5] 27/535/1781/21120/8134/25
my [254]
myself [7] 84/599/18131/1191/3191/10
191/20195/7
mysteries [1] 82/20
N
Nah [1] 204/3
name [50] 5/126/829/1637/438/1439/8
40/1441/1743/2445/1246/548/848/17
48/2151/952/153/253/1955/2056/958/5
60/260/2465/2066/1867/1169/171/15
72/1973/2075/278/878/2179/1980/13
81/682/382/1183/483/1584/1084/22
86/17100/5100/18121/6122/24170/3
218/16218/21
named [1] 168/23
names [7] 6/37/238/438/23143/25218/9
218/15
narrow [1] 182/6
national [2] 83/25183/6
naturalized [1] 183/4
nature [12] 19/227/2428/135/435/736/9
105/25125/10149/21185/20185/23
185/25
nauseam [1] 20/18
Navy [2] 214/4214/6
NCIS [1] 157/16
nearly [1] 75/23
necessarily [2] 98/16205/10
necessary [3] 19/2227/1477/10
need [32] 6/148/89/229/2210/2026/21
27/727/1028/2329/733/934/452/1958/3
86/1088/7108/22115/5124/12153/22
155/7156/25180/6190/25209/11216/10
219/18219/20220/1223/13223/25224/25
needed [4] 14/5110/4142/19153/18
needs [3] 26/16103/9103/13
negative [3] 118/5118/19119/23
neighbor [4] 115/21115/23156/12
178/10
neighborhood [2] 93/196/1
neither [3] 7/1696/25169/20
nephew [3] 85/2586/11108/2
nephews [1] 206/12
nerved [1] 79/22
nervous [1] 101/22
Netflix [4] 62/473/673/784/18
network [1] 83/19
Neuro [2] 60/1760/18
never [46] 16/2144/1145/1748/1248/25
51/1151/1352/553/1054/155/2458/10
58/2459/260/660/862/166/266/2267/18
68/770/170/370/370/2270/2271/1972/25
73/2574/1575/576/377/678/1078/25
79/2280/1881/1083/884/1585/2486/2
99/3202/1206/9210/8
new [23] 8/314/614/714/1044/2144/21
44/2358/365/571/185/485/992/2592/25
112/15113/7122/1135/1137/25140/5
159/10159/23201/20
New York [5] 44/2144/2165/585/9
137/25
news [6] 52/752/752/880/2183/25112/8
newspaper [1] 112/7
Newton [1] 43/9
next [26] 10/2130/2232/138/1651/19
53/2460/572/2388/1890/1493/1199/22
103/23104/14106/10107/21115/3115/7
155/22173/16198/16212/15216/18220/1
222/5228/4
nice [7] 9/682/2595/12189/25212/25
213/18222/23
Nicholas [3] 3/34/1037/6
niece [1] 171/2
niece's [1] 206/16
nieces [1] 206/12
Nigeria [3] 134/20134/22202/5
Nigerian [2] 201/9202/3
Nike [1] 80/16
nine [5] 75/385/20140/23171/16201/1
ninth [1] 78/23
Nissan [1] 192/14
no [195] 1/132/49/1717/317/417/23
18/1222/1122/1235/2436/1638/2239/11
40/340/840/841/442/445/849/449/24
50/350/1350/1850/2251/1351/1451/15
52/552/553/1053/1255/855/1755/23
55/2455/2556/1860/660/761/661/1562/2
63/263/364/2266/1466/2467/1767/18
68/368/868/1569/369/1771/1471/1472/9
73/1473/2574/1576/1376/1676/1876/18
77/679/279/1279/2480/880/2080/2181/9
81/1082/582/683/283/883/2384/1585/5
86/1386/1986/1986/2086/2090/1190/12
90/1690/1792/1893/593/794/295/295/2
95/996/10101/8101/11104/11106/3
106/6107/3107/16107/18107/19108/8
108/11108/19109/20110/8110/13113/11
113/11113/11113/14114/21114/25
115/15115/16118/23125/12125/14
125/16125/23126/17128/9129/12130/21
131/15133/15135/19136/24137/6138/5
139/4142/7142/13142/16142/24143/4
144/16154/12154/13158/8160/16162/4
163/6165/13166/15166/17168/11170/6
170/17174/19175/8175/24177/5177/10
178/18178/22184/18186/23190/8190/18
191/9195/25195/25197/15197/16198/2
199/15200/15200/20202/2203/7203/10
206/23208/10208/13209/6210/15210/15
211/4214/22214/24215/1215/10215/22
218/10224/7224/8225/10225/11
No, [9] 39/1093/8104/12106/5154/25
218/3218/7219/12219/13
No, Your Honor [9] 39/1093/8104/12
106/5154/25218/3218/7219/12219/13
nobody [1] 204/1
Nobody's [1] 70/23
Nodding [2] 132/1144/23
non [2] 16/1455/24
non-traffic [1] 55/24
non-unanimous [1] 16/14
none [3] 46/11159/6171/25
nonpassive [1] 13/8
nonprofit [2] 84/284/7
nonrefundable [1] 36/12
normal [2] 225/18226/10
normally [1] 30/20
North [1] 61/5
NORTHERN [6] 2/136/2138/843/7120/1
230/5
nosey [1] 224/3
not [243]
note [3] 1/1223/2384/2
notes [2] 14/1106/24
nothing [9] 55/1391/1793/3103/4
104/25138/2138/5177/2200/24
notice [2] 10/2419/7
noticed [3] 105/3105/6226/12
notify [2] 25/25159/21
notion [1] 73/15
notions [1] 42/20
November [1] 230/14
now [82] 10/1412/2415/815/915/915/9
22/1423/134/734/834/2035/2536/23
38/1038/2343/2044/1047/2549/650/19
53/1657/1159/2061/2562/2264/2465/4
68/570/1972/2179/181/782/485/498/14
102/1110/15113/17115/13115/25116/15
125/18125/20132/9133/23136/20137/21
140/4140/12141/16143/6143/22145/9
147/18147/20149/8151/2154/10154/22
156/18158/17158/19160/13161/19175/5
186/4189/12189/13189/15189/17192/3
193/10194/12194/15198/6204/25209/24
217/20222/12223/2223/7226/9
NPR [3] 46/1675/1484/1
number [197] 1/61/612/2213/1613/20
15/2016/1220/922/2423/928/632/536/17
40/1541/1743/2444/245/1346/548/9
48/2252/552/653/1955/2156/958/10
58/1261/2262/262/262/365/2166/19
66/2366/2367/167/1267/2468/868/8
68/1168/1169/2470/274/1175/275/20
76/476/676/2377/677/879/279/379/18
79/2480/1380/2082/1283/883/984/15
85/385/587/991/191/391/891/2491/25
92/192/392/492/993/1193/1295/1495/15
99/22101/12101/13103/24104/15105/8
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number... [112] 106/10106/12107/6
107/7107/21107/22108/24110/15110/16
110/20116/14116/18116/23116/24
120/20121/1121/4122/2125/2128/5
130/5130/23133/17135/8138/8139/8
142/21149/17149/23149/25150/2151/21
154/6154/10154/11154/11156/20157/12
158/11158/24159/9160/19163/3164/13
165/22166/25168/19170/1170/5173/7
174/4175/14176/5177/21178/8178/15
179/1179/10180/9181/9182/2182/2
182/9182/9182/9182/9182/9182/18
183/1183/1183/2183/22183/24183/24
184/8184/8184/13184/21184/21185/10
185/10186/7187/20189/6190/1191/13
192/25194/19195/16197/5197/16198/19
199/24201/5202/18203/12204/5205/10
205/23207/21209/13209/17210/17211/7
212/5212/21212/25213/2213/14213/21
214/3230/10
Number 1 [2] 183/1199/24
Number 10 [4] 55/21183/24185/10
213/2
Number 11 [5] 56/991/24133/17183/1
198/19
Number 12 [6] 91/25125/2182/9183/24
190/1204/5
Number 13 [1] 135/8
Number 14 [2] 183/2201/5
Number 15 [1] 128/5
Number 16 [2] 61/22138/8
Number 17 [4] 65/2193/11184/8210/17
Number 18 [3] 66/1995/14154/10
Number 19 [7] 67/12160/19182/2182/2
184/21186/7212/21
Number 2 [1] 156/20
Number 20 [2] 67/24182/9
Number 21 [1] 99/22
Number 22 [3] 69/24101/12154/11
Number 24 [1] 192/25
Number 25 [2] 165/22205/23
Number 26 [1] 166/25
Number 27 [3] 74/11168/19187/20
number 28 [5] 75/2139/8154/6154/11
194/19
Number 29 [4] 75/20106/10170/1211/7
Number 3 [4] 41/1746/5110/15184/13
Number 30 [2] 107/6173/7
Number 32 [2] 174/4213/21
Number 33 [1] 197/5
Number 34 [2] 80/13197/16
Number 35 [1] 207/21
Number 37 [1] 107/21
Number 39 [1] 212/5
Number 4 [2] 149/25150/2
Number 41 [1] 214/3
Number 42 [1] 179/10
Number 5 [1] 157/12
Number 7 [12] 52/558/1062/268/870/2
76/483/884/1585/391/192/3121/1
number 8 [16] 52/658/1262/268/868/11
68/1177/879/279/2480/2083/985/591/8
92/492/9158/11
Number 9 [10] 62/367/176/679/3130/23
182/9183/22184/8189/6202/18
numbers [22] 13/214/2215/2216/216/5
18/1718/2419/119/820/320/1922/13
23/1324/1424/1925/325/2027/19180/11
189/4202/16224/24
nurse [6] 60/467/1379/2080/382/5
161/19
nurses [2] 87/23159/23
nursing [3] 60/13161/12201/15
nutrition [1] 51/11
O
oath [7] 31/1934/934/934/1534/15222/1
222/1
object [2] 90/15225/12
objecting [1] 9/10
objection [6] 90/1390/16150/15218/1
218/4219/11
objective [2] 114/6150/11
observation [1] 155/7
obtained [11] 13/215/2119/819/1320/2
20/1922/924/18117/8121/6174/6
obviously [8] 91/1291/1792/1593/2
157/17160/24203/3228/17
occasion [1] 207/13
occasionally [2] 168/7203/18
occurred [1] 15/24
October [2] 195/23195/24
odd [3] 5/125/528/8
off [8] 29/1960/2170/6148/24174/15
199/18204/16221/25
offender [2] 109/11110/2
offense [2] 18/956/25
offenses [2] 19/12117/16
office [9] 3/23/438/838/21120/1120/4
157/3211/24219/18
officer [22] 27/853/453/7128/14130/11
149/22175/9175/10189/1202/19203/5
203/15204/7204/17204/18206/1207/23
208/20209/4209/4209/4221/3
officers [2] 184/16202/10
offices [2] 140/6230/6
official [8] 1/11/21/31/71/142/21230/4
230/19
offline [1] 187/8
often [6] 114/11114/13186/24188/16
188/18188/19
Ogedengbe [2] 60/3219/3
Oglethorpe [1] 72/23
oh [39] 7/1937/2347/1849/1353/21
60/1860/2064/1665/1068/168/468/19
69/1174/2176/1884/484/2589/20102/2
106/18107/1112/25113/4114/15126/18
127/7142/17143/10156/24161/8168/22
170/6177/5182/4192/12193/2195/17
207/19224/24
Ohio [3] 105/10145/18145/22
OIG [1] 38/2
OJ [2] 95/2596/2
OJ Simpson [1] 95/25
okay [582]
Oklahoma [4] 54/1054/1055/2202/21
Okorie [2] 71/16219/6
old [19] 27/843/743/1445/1653/2572/24
73/2474/2378/1283/784/14108/15131/8
166/4196/2196/23198/1205/25213/4
old-fashioned [2] 196/23198/1
older [4] 54/24100/13100/15105/12
oldest [1] 93/21
Oleary [3] 75/21106/11219/8
onboard [1] 127/19
once [1] 187/1
oncology [1] 67/13
one [105] 4/257/127/1610/1913/2214/3
15/1620/520/1022/1022/1023/723/8
23/1823/1825/1325/1727/233/1138/22
40/340/1341/443/1444/844/945/1646/8
46/948/1048/1151/453/853/2458/358/8
60/2166/2168/668/668/2072/872/15
74/1676/176/277/378/1078/2480/15
82/1583/684/1487/987/2389/489/490/3
90/390/393/1199/22103/23104/14
106/10108/22114/1115/22118/16119/11
121/20123/13125/9126/13126/13143/4
144/9147/7147/7147/21149/23152/16
155/7155/19158/5159/17164/24168/21
172/25173/1182/4192/14199/17200/15
200/16206/13206/13206/15210/4211/16
216/17216/20225/7229/4229/5
One's [1] 192/13
ones [5] 18/1420/1284/18149/7168/22
ongoing [1] 101/24
online [7] 41/2341/2347/8111/5111/23
112/16112/17
only [23] 1/21/77/1110/2213/1413/21
27/229/2530/2100/20102/13108/22
141/4144/22147/1147/3153/14155/14
155/23161/2165/2176/3229/7
open [3] 4/3223/10230/8
opening [2] 11/11222/6
openings [2] 11/14134/12
operate [1] 120/22
operated [1] 159/5
operating [2] 189/1227/5
operation [1] 183/8
operational [2] 61/1130/18
operations [2] 144/9162/16
opinion [5] 24/1394/3118/19119/24
223/11
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156/19157/16213/1
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19/1122/1025/2329/2130/930/2433/12
35/2537/2240/1144/946/353/958/966/15
72/872/1676/177/480/1680/1787/987/12
87/2388/494/17101/4113/6115/5117/16
118/20119/5119/10123/16124/8125/17
129/9129/9131/13140/8143/24144/4
144/10147/25148/2150/4155/7165/11
166/11168/21170/3173/1176/2182/19
182/20187/5191/18192/14200/10200/23
201/24202/25206/13215/19217/22221/8
223/14227/7227/8227/16
others [1] 115/4
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ought [4] 5/75/926/11149/12
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29/1930/131/132/534/334/968/2177/19
96/6140/5147/20155/22155/22157/2
166/10189/18199/4202/12215/24225/20
225/20228/21
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37/1539/945/351/1954/1861/1962/18
65/465/666/1575/1180/2388/2189/289/2
91/1494/1395/396/14100/6102/7105/3
131/9131/10135/1143/20149/6151/17
151/24153/18153/24157/5166/9172/14
174/11180/7188/2208/11213/1214/12
218/9228/25
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147/1
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32/2035/1636/1742/1176/1482/1783/17
92/1296/5108/3116/20118/2131/25
132/3151/9162/13174/1181/4193/1
200/22200/24201/2213/15222/5
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120/22129/21129/21133/1141/13141/18
141/22151/23158/25159/2162/6165/24
166/2167/9168/3169/8172/24173/4
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181/24182/7182/8186/18186/21188/13
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193/10193/19193/20194/5194/20195/18
196/12197/5198/4198/5207/6229/8
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177/16
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175/16179/3
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169/8170/20171/4172/25173/1173/4
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174/24
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118/19119/2119/8119/13119/23121/10
121/14121/18122/23
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163/8164/7
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92/792/1192/16176/21177/3
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19/2124/2027/1429/2430/1031/1432/11
35/1682/13113/4116/4120/2121/23
122/8122/10123/6132/8142/5150/19
172/3173/21
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88/8102/16110/12111/12116/2222/6
223/12223/24224/4
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106/4219/11
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129/20138/17141/5145/17145/17169/3
178/3178/4178/17178/18
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177/25181/3181/5181/6181/7181/11
181/16181/18187/11189/12
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132/3132/5132/9140/5140/11141/3
141/4141/7146/1156/21156/22157/3
157/8162/16166/6166/14169/17174/23
177/22177/24179/11179/21
PD [1] 76/7
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33/633/1236/1836/2537/138/2438/25
39/139/839/2443/1755/1157/257/271/7
88/1189/389/1190/2197/798/15106/14
115/5116/23123/17129/9129/10137/15
143/24144/1148/9148/10150/4177/12
181/4181/22183/14183/21191/21200/4
200/8200/19200/23201/10201/15201/18
201/22201/23207/1209/10222/16
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152/17186/21188/14
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73/1697/16109/22115/22191/6200/10
202/11207/6226/10
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120/11120/17151/23199/4199/4
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89/11154/21
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117/2218/21
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25/126/148/248/3113/7124/24150/18
153/5158/5187/7187/12216/22228/17
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police [22] 113/15113/18113/20113/23
114/13114/20119/24136/16149/20151/1
175/9175/10183/20184/16202/14202/14
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207/4207/7
policing [1] 149/14
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136/22165/11
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121/11121/15133/13174/6174/11174/16
176/6176/10179/2179/4180/21180/22
180/24181/2181/2181/4181/8181/16
181/17185/17223/3223/18
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168/5170/23173/10173/22
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165/3165/10183/7185/22
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81/2091/2104/20105/14105/21131/9
168/8173/25181/11
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124/6139/2144/14147/14171/23
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161/25178/9193/4193/8193/21194/7
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123/21168/23184/1
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66/366/2370/373/582/1986/2129/6
173/10181/25182/1186/6186/8186/10
186/12187/21
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91/892/393/1695/1999/25101/15104/2
104/18106/14106/17107/10107/24109/4
116/7
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49/549/849/1365/1178/2286/888/9
116/15133/9144/11149/5159/24167/25
183/12189/18195/4199/15199/18201/1
204/1204/2205/7213/15226/8228/4
228/4228/23
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103/5107/3170/6
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182/22226/3
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230/11230/13
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31/1432/1132/2034/1942/2449/2059/12
59/20109/19116/1116/2116/5116/13
140/16179/21204/18210/14
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103/12103/12118/17118/20118/21136/7
136/16140/2140/4141/4141/5170/14
190/4190/7190/21193/11193/24194/13
194/23196/14196/16196/17197/20198/8
223/4
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190/23
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123/22140/25
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97/1497/18151/25
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119/24
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148/5156/10217/17220/4
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58/12
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46/2350/459/2161/1863/1964/264/4
79/1480/980/2391/1492/1994/1395/3
101/3105/7106/25131/1132/17151/6
152/4152/6172/6182/20
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Q
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47/1566/466/2266/2377/697/8116/18
126/25146/18146/20150/3170/2180/8
183/11198/16209/1212/15
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31/1931/2231/2332/932/1332/2132/22
33/2534/935/2542/142/943/2547/2463/5
64/665/1466/375/1687/595/6102/16
104/10106/4107/17115/13116/3116/12
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190/1207/16214/8222/10224/1225/6
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Race [1] 86/7
Rachael [1] 79/19
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59/560/1261/962/466/567/267/2068/15
70/771/171/2473/874/1875/1476/777/14
79/579/579/2580/2181/1282/882/21
83/1283/2584/2085/786/786/21
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117/3142/21148/16149/15149/17180/8
181/6181/7
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ran [1] 159/5
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rates [1] 177/25
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83/22105/9
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217/14218/10218/14221/24224/10
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76/2131/17169/9171/5173/1173/4208/8
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59/460/1060/1160/1861/865/479/379/5
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223/1
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58/1473/675/1376/683/24147/11164/21
174/20
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152/10152/12
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25/1951/1455/2464/2393/22105/10
121/24122/11125/22127/17128/13
136/13143/13144/17169/17
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48/1348/1448/2549/153/1254/356/18
59/160/860/966/2471/2071/2171/25
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92/392/495/19104/2
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209/12213/9228/24
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230/19
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176/15177/15
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123/13130/21
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188/8188/8
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83/1884/587/25105/4128/19128/22
141/13141/16144/25145/7145/9145/21
145/21158/17207/23
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returns [25] 13/313/513/1313/2214/8
16/1016/2018/418/718/2018/2319/15
20/420/822/2023/1625/2427/127/328/12
28/14117/10123/8168/10192/16
Reuters [3] 74/4167/1167/5
reveal [2] 73/474/18
revealed [1] 9/8
revenue [2] 119/4182/23
reversible [1] 25/11
reviewed [1] 32/22
reviews [1] 150/18
revolving [1] 85/21
rewarding [1] 30/11
Richardson [1] 39/5
Richmond [3] 77/477/2177/24
right [201] 5/227/149/209/2110/18
11/1812/814/1714/2414/2416/2121/1
22/1926/927/1228/1829/1531/1432/19
34/134/834/1134/1434/1834/2035/1
35/2436/1738/2339/1940/340/440/10
41/2042/1043/1643/1743/2044/1046/4
46/447/347/1047/1147/2247/2348/748/8
49/649/1350/950/1951/553/1557/2458/2
59/2560/1561/2161/2563/463/1365/4
65/1968/570/1676/2179/179/1279/12
80/283/385/485/585/1586/2587/487/21
88/688/1888/2489/1790/1090/2491/20
91/2495/1397/797/11100/12100/25
101/1101/1101/6103/11104/10105/23
108/5108/20109/4113/17114/2115/3
115/13115/17115/20115/23115/25116/9
116/15117/2117/6118/1121/1121/5
122/10129/13131/16131/25132/9132/19
135/18136/1136/20138/6139/6139/8
140/4140/17142/15143/6148/1148/4
149/15155/1155/5155/11155/16155/19
156/6156/12156/16156/18159/7159/11
160/13160/19160/25165/16165/20
165/22167/23169/6170/4170/8173/7
174/1179/9179/23180/21182/21183/11
185/13186/4189/3189/17193/1193/6
196/1198/12201/5203/16204/4206/4
209/14211/19213/12214/9215/3215/14
215/25216/3217/20218/21219/14220/6
220/21221/12222/6222/13222/18224/1
224/4224/9224/19226/20227/19227/20
228/19228/21229/11
Riley [2] 83/483/5
rings [1] 175/21
rip [1] 54/18
rise [3] 89/7151/15224/20
risk [7] 17/361/2130/9130/11130/12
130/17130/18
River [1] 212/23
rob [1] 210/3
robbed [4] 92/1092/23106/22210/1
robber [1] 97/20
robbery [2] 95/22222/20
rock [1] 54/6
Rockdale [1] 43/9
role [2] 127/3130/13
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rolling [1] 85/22
room [9] 6/1829/756/386/687/16117/3
221/3221/10224/25
Rosemarie [1] 39/4
Rosselot [2] 76/22107/6
roughly [1] 20/20
row [3] 28/2332/1218/18
rows [1] 118/10
Rueters [1] 73/23
rule [9] 7/97/107/117/25148/2223/24
225/20226/21227/13
ruled [2] 8/1023/24
rules [1] 223/24
ruling [4] 20/1722/524/2525/9
run [3] 11/17176/1207/12
Ryan [3] 61/2285/1785/18
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said [83] 8/29/812/313/1614/514/17
15/915/1020/121/2428/828/1929/2530/6
30/634/1539/1646/1754/2272/1779/7
89/1291/793/1594/995/795/1896/496/23
97/297/1998/1198/1399/7103/12106/25
107/8110/2110/8115/4124/13124/14
125/24128/6128/21129/1130/24131/17
133/17134/24135/10137/7137/19143/2
145/2148/20148/25150/8150/25151/22
152/16152/22153/7154/2154/20154/22
156/21157/13158/13159/10161/8162/5
163/4164/5165/23166/5167/1167/2
168/2173/4174/5213/25230/11
Salaam [5] 32/332/1243/1844/2218/23
salaried [1] 128/1
salary [1] 122/17
Salvatore [1] 39/4
Salvatore Hazel [1] 39/4
same [26] 13/513/1113/1214/715/15
18/1818/2319/1521/2488/1997/21
128/22147/24148/2173/25176/17177/18
180/10188/7200/22206/21206/22209/1
210/3215/2215/13
sat [2] 34/18163/25
Saturday [2] 44/2545/1
saw [1] 150/21
say [67] 8/2312/1915/1820/1424/2425/4
27/227/530/1430/1530/2031/2532/24
33/339/2341/149/149/349/949/1350/3
52/2354/1556/2463/1085/1888/999/5
100/25103/8106/3106/16109/10122/6
146/16146/19149/10150/11150/21151/4
151/17153/17153/18160/3160/12160/14
169/14184/25189/14199/17200/20
205/18206/2208/21212/22213/23214/5
214/24216/6222/17222/17222/19222/20
222/23223/5224/5224/12
saying [11] 27/930/2197/997/1297/13
103/10124/14124/17152/5153/3153/17
says [10] 14/1115/816/717/2326/20
26/2168/17184/23185/4213/17
scenario [1] 96/10
scene [1] 136/14
scheduled [1] 10/24
school [29] 36/944/1053/858/958/9
60/1372/2374/2578/192/24123/12
126/12126/14131/10135/15135/23
161/12166/8166/10196/2200/25201/10
201/22201/23201/24206/1206/5208/4
212/12
schools [2] 44/856/12
Schwab [2] 137/14137/21
sci [4] 45/2245/2546/156/20
sci-fi [4] 45/2245/2546/156/20
science [4] 53/858/2267/19136/7
sciences [1] 59/6
scientific [2] 114/9151/3
Scott [3] 6/837/1638/1
screened [1] 212/12
season [1] 135/1
seat [2] 116/16218/16
seated [5] 5/2289/1090/2219/11225/5
second [9] 13/1413/1613/1813/2117/5
88/7166/8211/16215/10
secret [2] 7/227/23
secretary [1] 69/25
securities [2] 77/19173/22
security [46] 13/213/1713/2013/23
13/2415/2015/2216/216/516/816/11
16/1116/1516/2417/417/817/2418/10
18/1618/2419/119/820/320/920/1922/13
22/2423/923/1324/1324/1924/2025/2
25/1825/2025/2127/1928/638/268/18
68/2068/22122/12221/2225/22227/6
Sedan [1] 192/14
see [65] 10/1328/2128/2235/2436/16
37/1137/1438/2240/340/1388/788/18
97/998/899/2116/20116/24118/7121/2
121/3121/3121/12122/14122/21123/14
123/18123/23125/1125/1125/3127/13
127/14128/18129/14131/16132/24
134/24135/4137/7138/7138/10141/1
141/9144/21158/11158/24160/12164/13
170/1170/1174/4175/14177/21178/15
179/1179/10182/6213/14214/2217/7
222/24225/24226/5227/16228/12
seeing [1] 199/15
seem [4] 20/1026/6150/18191/19
seemed [1] 222/23
seems [4] 43/1659/2290/21150/3
seen [8] 5/829/496/2198/18151/10
165/12170/13199/18
seized [1] 123/2
select [3] 29/1731/1433/15
selected [4] 33/1834/2346/2280/24
self [3] 67/17149/14162/9
self-storage [2] 67/17162/9
sell [4] 74/695/9167/8176/22
selling [1] 95/8
semester [1] 136/11
Seminole [1] 92/25
semiretired [1] 82/13
senior [5] 58/666/2167/768/20125/25
sense [6] 41/11109/23110/5194/11
198/15216/15
sent [1] 15/4
sentences [3] 35/2287/11105/21
separate [4] 15/23157/25205/20209/7
sequestration [3] 7/97/107/22
sergeant [1] 212/19
series [2] 35/2576/7
serious [1] 124/19
serve [12] 30/731/2234/2340/841/443/5
61/4110/24119/18120/5124/2184/9
served [44] 44/1145/1748/1248/25
51/1352/553/1054/157/558/1058/2460/7
62/166/266/2268/769/469/770/170/22
71/1972/2573/2574/1575/676/377/6
78/2580/1881/1082/1683/883/2184/15
84/2485/285/2486/2099/4108/2146/4
146/7211/17213/8
serves [1] 31/1
service [3] 40/1252/13119/4
services [2] 166/3212/13
serving [9] 29/2339/1340/640/1940/23
42/346/1056/23218/15
set [5] 12/1530/1332/1571/581/7
sets [2] 11/2427/13
settled [1] 210/10
setup [1] 19/20
seven [3] 83/22145/10206/2
seventh [1] 72/22
seventh grade [1] 72/22
several [5] 12/1036/1142/11148/9
163/17
sewer [1] 200/12
sex [1] 170/24
sexual [1] 107/13
shackles [3] 225/8225/12227/11
Shaking [1] 157/24
shaped [1] 98/17
share [1] 8/1
sharing [1] 223/6
Shavara [1] 66/18
she [94] 5/2137/1950/2052/1852/24
63/763/870/1075/975/1178/1478/15
80/1682/1582/1583/1884/2487/2491/1
94/2197/20102/6104/5104/24105/4
105/5105/5105/6105/12105/12105/15
107/12125/19128/14133/6133/13143/16
143/17143/23143/23144/9145/11145/11
145/13145/16145/17145/20145/21
145/21148/18148/20148/23148/23
148/25149/5151/22151/22152/4152/5
152/5152/6152/6152/8152/14152/15
152/16152/22152/22152/22152/24153/3
153/5153/5153/7153/7153/10153/17
153/17153/21153/21153/22153/23
153/24154/1154/3168/10175/19175/20
175/23176/1176/1182/21184/14207/12
she's [16] 7/631/2150/2152/2268/5
78/1786/6143/22145/7145/9145/16
145/17154/3207/13207/14218/14
sheet [1] 156/18
Shelby [2] 82/3219/10
sheriff [3] 202/14204/7204/18
sheriff's [1] 183/20
Sherry [1] 53/3
Sherry Hunt [1] 53/3
shifting [2] 8/168/18
shirt [2] 64/7174/14
shock [1] 28/5
shoes [1] 74/1
short [5] 87/394/20105/6105/7214/10
short-term [1] 94/20
shots [1] 207/6
should [25] 25/826/742/2396/1498/16
116/15116/25137/5149/5149/8149/23
149/25150/7152/8157/22157/22161/2
162/3165/3165/19213/12214/20221/22
225/15228/2
shoulder [1] 50/8
shouldn't [3] 88/15170/5180/13
show [21] 17/219/2520/620/1123/3
23/1523/2027/646/1449/650/2351/7
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show... [9] 51/1651/1798/10160/25
165/1165/18221/3221/6226/18
showed [3] 96/2496/25105/1
shower [1] 224/14
showing [2] 20/23225/16
shows [44] 19/119/219/2044/1545/22
45/2548/1649/550/1550/2052/753/14
56/256/1958/1462/367/167/1968/12
68/1269/670/2571/2373/673/874/274/16
75/1377/1182/782/2083/1183/1183/24
84/1785/686/586/21157/13157/14
157/18157/21160/20164/13
shrug [1] 50/7
shy [3] 33/1133/1258/15
siblings [1] 100/23
side [21] 28/2454/254/2255/755/1572/8
90/15113/23114/4114/7118/2130/17
134/9139/18140/14140/14164/15164/16
174/20206/22221/8
sides [7] 24/2549/2263/2079/1181/2
94/8206/24
sigma [1] 144/10
signals [1] 212/9
similar [3] 167/15167/25190/1
simple [3] 47/1696/9193/16
simply [5] 16/435/441/747/6113/6
Simpson [2] 95/2596/2
since [16] 17/324/2466/2068/183/5
142/2161/20163/12166/7178/11178/11
200/9212/14215/20216/5228/18
sincerity [1] 153/16
sing [1] 82/23
single [2] 69/369/24
sir [74] 4/1720/1439/1140/1448/748/20
55/1755/1856/757/1459/759/2464/10
68/2069/2170/1672/973/1473/1876/13
78/678/1979/1780/880/1186/1393/798/6
99/24101/8101/9104/1104/13107/8
107/11107/20110/13110/14115/2115/15
124/10133/16135/6139/6154/12154/13
155/3155/6156/9165/23167/1174/5
180/1189/8191/14196/12197/3199/23
201/3202/20203/11205/24210/15210/16
212/4212/5212/7212/20214/13215/17
216/24224/7227/12229/13
Sirius [3] 58/1666/569/6
sister [6] 50/1954/2478/4100/8100/11
105/11
Sisters [1] 58/15
sit [12] 29/629/834/1434/1650/2172/4
124/9124/24150/8186/4217/21218/18
sitcoms [2] 75/1482/20
sitting [9] 5/67/1737/1188/18116/14
117/4183/12186/2205/14
situation [7] 49/250/473/173/379/799/9
210/23
six [8] 44/361/2382/4144/10145/10
155/18155/18222/3
sketchy [2] 24/1328/8
skipped [2] 163/2163/3
skirts [2] 225/18226/5
sleep [1] 224/13
slides [1] 71/4
slow [1] 181/14
slowly [1] 89/3
small [12] 85/23102/5118/25119/3
121/22129/6141/7145/18175/22176/7
191/17192/7
Small Business Administration [2]
119/3121/22
smaller [1] 188/9
Smith [4] 48/1751/961/22219/1
snack [1] 224/15
snacks [2] 221/14221/23
so [318]
social [51] 13/213/1713/2013/2313/24
15/2015/2216/216/516/816/1116/11
16/1516/2317/417/817/2418/1018/16
18/2418/2519/820/320/920/1922/13
22/2423/823/923/1324/1324/1924/19
25/225/1825/2025/2127/1928/638/177/2
102/4103/9103/9113/8122/12191/17
191/20192/7199/16199/19
social media [6] 113/8191/17191/20
192/7199/16199/19
Social Security [6] 13/213/1713/20
13/2313/2415/20
socials [3] 22/922/1823/4
sociology [1] 113/1
softball [1] 174/21
software [3] 134/7140/14140/16
sold [3] 94/22169/10172/16
sole [1] 161/13
solely [1] 42/13
Solomon [1] 39/7
some [115] 6/178/128/1612/814/20
16/1516/1616/2517/618/120/2024/16
28/429/1030/330/531/731/831/2132/14
32/1532/2132/2137/1440/845/2247/4
47/752/1952/2354/2259/959/1862/362/4
64/564/1565/1470/2572/1375/1586/1
87/598/1598/1899/17102/3103/12
103/13104/20104/24112/15112/19
114/17116/20120/23125/17126/23
127/16127/21129/9129/25142/11143/25
144/1144/11150/14150/16151/9151/21
152/3156/21161/9163/4163/21164/18
167/2168/9168/15168/20170/10170/18
172/2176/5177/21178/8178/8179/1
185/3185/11186/5187/12187/12191/18
195/13197/20202/15203/2204/21205/7
206/11207/6207/21211/25217/21220/10
221/14221/22225/16226/21227/13
227/17228/8228/8228/9
somebody [24] 8/2320/1141/782/25
87/1890/1495/9169/22174/13174/13
174/14190/11191/2191/4199/24200/3
201/7207/5207/14214/24223/6223/11
224/2227/10
somebody's [3] 41/650/18217/19
somehow [5] 17/1490/490/590/19161/3
someone [27] 18/2239/2095/797/14
118/10123/25125/5128/6129/11130/24
133/18139/9142/12144/4158/14165/24
166/6169/7174/6175/1175/15176/6
176/16178/15179/11182/17189/12
someplace [1] 224/11
something [80] 6/716/1117/2520/14
20/2521/527/1728/128/728/931/631/25
33/135/636/1539/2540/741/642/256/3
56/556/658/360/1178/1184/1990/2291/7
91/1291/1497/25102/9103/12103/13
103/19106/1107/9116/6120/15125/10
132/7138/17138/19142/14142/17142/24
143/17145/25146/24151/18152/17
152/23159/1164/21165/11167/3167/15
169/18172/14172/19178/3178/4178/17
180/5180/7183/1184/6184/23184/24
185/2185/3212/2223/2223/3223/4223/5
223/6223/7226/19228/22
sometime [2] 24/1246/15
sometimes [12] 11/1727/972/1596/22
97/16116/23118/17125/3150/12191/25
204/14205/8
somewhat [2] 120/15204/22
somewhere [1] 174/12
son [13] 54/1170/1175/1077/2277/23
78/2493/2194/6101/18106/21124/20
153/11153/20
son's [1] 153/4
sons [3] 48/1066/166/7
soon [3] 12/1351/2087/17
sooner [2] 11/734/4
sorry [33] 5/1110/111/2321/2141/144/5
52/754/868/168/1974/2185/2489/18
103/15103/20105/17107/2111/18118/7
124/12158/20165/7182/4187/6193/2
193/5195/17199/17206/20211/16216/4
216/6225/3
sort [11] 8/2523/1924/427/828/890/3
112/4167/18168/1198/18226/5
Sosebee [2] 107/21107/23
sounds [1] 140/25
south [2] 62/1875/3
span [1] 27/15
speak [15] 30/2131/432/256/1688/11
92/399/1699/1899/25104/2107/24109/4
124/18209/21227/3
speakers [2] 213/22213/25
speaking [4] 151/10217/25219/14220/6
special [9] 5/135/1937/1237/1638/1
39/1385/1114/3146/8
specialized [1] 81/21
specializes [1] 85/21
specialty [1] 60/16
specific [4] 13/2213/2326/8167/19
specifically [7] 9/510/1620/1123/3
77/14125/11157/7
specifics [2] 207/4207/12
speech [1] 58/25
spend [2] 24/1696/2
spending [2] 60/21219/16
spent [6] 73/197/197/24148/17149/1
201/1
spin [1] 77/14
spiral [1] 98/2
spiraled [1] 96/6
spirits [1] 70/19
spit [1] 157/3
spoke [2] 143/23149/19
sporadic [2] 168/8169/4
sports [17] 44/1644/1848/1654/454/4
61/762/467/168/1370/2574/174/1777/13
84/186/586/586/21
spot [1] 115/10
Spotify [1] 82/8
spouse [1] 71/17
spouses [1] 120/23
Sprint [2] 83/1884/6
SSN [1] 15/6
stadium [2] 131/22131/25
staffing [1] 127/22
staggering [1] 206/23
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stake [1] 186/18
stand [17] 27/829/432/1234/834/840/14
43/2389/1499/4102/18116/23124/15
127/14210/6210/24218/21226/7
standard [5] 25/430/1341/8225/8227/5
standing [3] 34/16125/2226/6
stands [1] 226/9
Stanwood [1] 37/17
Star [1] 46/1
start [32] 4/511/1429/1930/1833/12
33/2543/2260/465/687/1787/1887/19
88/2289/3115/8116/9135/23156/20
159/18159/18160/6160/15186/6218/13
220/12220/15220/18220/25221/25222/7
224/18228/6
started [13] 40/1762/1872/1490/490/19
99/8104/19105/2154/6191/20201/21
204/16228/3
starting [6] 4/787/2491/6135/15159/10
221/18
state [9] 23/123/258/2160/14109/15
109/17119/5135/12182/22
statement [5] 8/89/149/1547/5185/4
statements [4] 8/138/2511/11222/7
states [33] 2/12/34/64/84/1112/1814/1
14/1114/1619/1121/436/2036/2437/2
37/537/738/738/843/656/1063/1363/24
116/10119/22119/25120/2120/4120/4
168/8213/19218/1230/5230/9
station [6] 46/1651/1758/1576/879/5
86/21
stations [18] 49/752/854/556/666/667/2
68/1570/771/2473/977/1479/579/25
80/2182/882/2183/2586/8
stay [7] 29/229/546/748/2256/1174/12
91/4
stayed [1] 69/2
staying [1] 136/4
stays [2] 53/9159/13
steel [1] 85/22
Stenograph [1] 230/7
Stenographic [1] 1/12
stenography [1] 2/18
step [4] 115/3115/7115/25116/2
stepfather [1] 129/17
Stephen [1] 48/17
Steve [1] 73/9
Steven [1] 86/17
sticker [9] 184/19184/20184/22184/23
185/1185/6213/8213/9213/16
stickers [5] 185/11185/14212/21212/21
212/22
still [23] 24/1275/11100/20105/21106/1
108/22110/1120/24125/21126/12128/8
134/21136/4160/5175/10186/13195/20
195/22201/19205/1213/3219/23222/12
stint [1] 166/8
stipend [1] 166/12
stock [1] 187/17
stolen [2] 68/984/16
stop [2] 194/8220/23
stopped [3] 98/1137/20137/22
storage [2] 67/17162/9
store [2] 190/25191/10
story [6] 19/1622/1824/427/8105/7
200/22
straight [2] 100/6222/7
Stranger [4] 51/1751/1956/20134/25
stream [1] 74/16
streaming [1] 50/15
streamline [1] 149/9
Street [2] 101/21137/25
stressed [1] 208/11
stressful [1] 208/9
stretch [2] 27/1634/3
strictly [1] 136/21
strike [14] 17/1718/518/6154/4154/8
154/14154/18154/21214/15216/2216/18
216/18217/6217/22
strikes [8] 151/14155/18216/3216/10
216/13216/20218/1218/6
striking [2] 215/24215/25
strong [2] 23/12104/20
strongly [1] 220/17
struck [8] 149/5149/8150/15151/13
152/8155/24215/14216/14
student [4] 58/20112/7121/18135/11
students [2] 29/11201/24
study [1] 41/21
studying [3] 59/678/1782/15
stuff [22] 44/1646/346/2156/2156/22
73/673/1086/7124/25137/17157/5
157/16162/18167/19177/12180/12
199/15199/18199/20199/21204/19205/5
stutter [2] 58/2458/25
style [1] 112/19
subcontractor [1] 84/12
subject [2] 31/635/6
submit [3] 26/2527/7132/15
submitted [1] 127/24
submitting [1] 162/21
subscribers [2] 74/6167/8
suburb [1] 145/22
suburbs [1] 145/18
such [2] 121/24122/12
sudden [1] 223/5
suffer [1] 97/14
suggest [1] 20/3
suggested [1] 13/25
suggests [1] 26/15
suing [1] 171/17
Suits [1] 62/3
summations [1] 9/7
summit [1] 136/15
Sunbelt [2] 44/444/6
SunTrust [1] 130/2
super [1] 193/16
superficial [1] 201/13
superintendent [1] 84/13
Supernatural [1] 56/20
superseding [6] 12/1913/913/1513/16
13/1914/3
support [1] 56/11
supporting [1] 130/15
suppose [1] 24/6
supposed [6] 36/187/1488/12103/1
115/21223/21
Supreme [2] 14/1228/16
sure [47] 11/1717/2519/1021/1721/19
21/2025/1130/731/1032/2339/242/147/3
59/2074/986/1488/2589/2193/2196/21
98/1299/699/1199/1599/17103/3109/1
125/3127/14127/23138/19147/23147/24
152/24157/4159/2160/7176/10179/20
181/11183/24185/8207/18211/5213/5
215/12227/21
surgery [1] 36/10
surplusage [2] 17/1718/5
surprised [1] 226/5
survey [1] 151/2
surveyed [1] 114/3
surveys [1] 114/15
Survivor [1] 86/7
suspect [1] 42/8
SW [1] 2/22
swear [2] 31/1834/7
Sweeten [1] 39/5
switched [1] 21/25
swore [1] 34/15
sworn [3] 34/1234/19222/1
sympathy [1] 123/25
synch [1] 10/7
synched [1] 10/11
system [10] 96/896/1396/2297/1097/11
97/1599/9140/5151/25158/4
systems [4] 2/2068/2183/19122/1
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table [8] 4/115/66/187/137/1728/20
37/11164/1
tables [1] 225/18
tainted [7] 96/796/1397/398/1399/8
151/24152/6
take [31] 31/1933/534/134/334/836/1
36/571/587/3115/11147/19147/20
180/13185/8185/9187/7188/23193/13
194/1195/2196/7196/19197/12197/22
198/10214/16218/8218/16224/21228/20
229/2
taken [3] 90/1155/4217/13
takes [1] 19/4
taking [4] 96/10114/7193/8207/6
talent [1] 127/19
talk [76] 4/204/238/28/89/2310/1510/20
11/1111/1217/1421/622/233/234/234/5
40/1641/1644/1871/184/184/1987/687/9
87/1187/1487/2288/188/488/889/1291/6
91/793/1593/1995/18101/15102/4
104/18106/14107/9108/1109/6110/25
115/14116/7142/19147/25148/2198/24
198/25199/13200/6201/11201/14202/22
203/16204/12204/22206/7206/25207/1
208/6208/9209/24214/10214/20215/1
215/10217/8220/10222/13222/15224/23
225/6225/24227/16
talked [11] 7/78/1218/11138/3143/10
189/3200/9202/25207/1209/18209/23
talking [17] 8/238/2523/526/1128/4
30/2453/2257/1385/1987/1890/4104/19
112/2112/4187/9188/10228/6
talks [3] 27/1348/1788/13
Tamela [1] 65/20
Tampa [4] 92/2592/2592/2593/1
Tar [1] 64/11
Target [1] 48/24
tax [40] 13/313/513/1213/1513/1713/21
13/2214/816/1016/2018/318/718/19
18/2319/1420/420/720/822/2023/15
25/2428/1228/1473/2274/7117/9122/11
123/6123/8132/12132/15132/18167/2
167/9167/16168/10169/17190/9191/7
192/16
TaxAct [1] 197/21
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taxes [28] 25/21122/12122/13143/17
143/19166/14167/17179/11182/7182/8
182/17189/3189/4189/9190/2191/15
192/19192/25193/3193/19193/20194/5
194/20195/18196/12197/6197/17198/4
teach [4] 46/1867/467/5189/22
teacher [4] 53/866/2072/2278/23
teaching [3] 41/1996/12111/4
team [3] 54/1165/965/11
teams [5] 44/1954/754/9162/14175/21
tech [4] 58/778/1578/1678/17
technical [1] 162/20
technically [1] 76/24
technology [3] 1/13113/7126/6
Ted [3] 2/2274/1677/12
Teddy [1] 36/21
telecom [2] 83/1883/19
tell [56] 5/1124/1624/1725/1526/926/11
26/1229/2531/431/1933/233/433/834/19
34/2236/836/1040/1440/2242/2543/21
43/2447/1657/657/1566/768/1769/770/8
72/1774/380/281/1784/390/1490/21
90/2591/1392/698/23101/17102/12
104/23150/22187/2187/3187/4188/18
200/2202/12208/12221/18222/20222/21
223/1228/23
teller [1] 127/4
telling [4] 19/2227/1542/8103/20
tells [2] 19/19102/22
temp [1] 44/9
temporary [1] 136/1
ten [15] 10/2114/1158/1963/1074/12
83/784/1498/2108/3155/17155/18164/4
178/24192/4201/1
ten-year [1] 98/2
ten-year-old [2] 83/784/14
tend [2] 123/25226/25
tenth [1] 140/24
term [1] 94/20
terms [24] 11/2020/2321/921/1021/10
22/525/526/2027/2328/528/11105/24
113/14140/17146/1154/13163/20164/20
164/25166/10169/11169/16170/13187/6
Terrell [2] 44/1218/23
testify [12] 7/158/1737/2237/25102/18
113/21184/4209/5209/16210/1210/19
211/8
testifying [9] 5/35/46/137/188/19/12
203/3205/13209/10
testimony [11] 6/158/125/125/1926/1
26/735/3113/22119/9119/15146/14
Texas [2] 15/2423/8
than [26] 14/1314/2518/124/440/147/17
72/1697/16100/15141/8144/4145/14
145/19145/25160/25166/21170/3172/21
184/16186/21200/10202/25203/9223/14
227/1227/16
thank [176] 12/726/1829/1434/1338/5
38/1738/2241/1343/445/747/2348/7
48/2051/752/1653/1753/1855/1856/7
58/1759/2560/1960/2260/2361/2165/13
66/1667/1067/1567/2268/2368/2569/21
70/1472/1772/1873/1874/875/175/19
76/1976/2177/1778/678/1978/2079/17
80/1281/481/2582/983/383/1383/1484/8
84/2185/885/1586/1686/2589/691/21
91/2393/995/1195/1398/2199/1999/20
101/6101/9101/10103/15103/21104/13
106/7106/9107/20108/20110/11110/14
115/2118/3118/8124/21124/23128/4
130/22133/16135/5135/7135/9138/7
139/6139/7152/20155/2155/3156/9
156/13156/17157/1157/10158/9158/22
158/23159/7160/17162/25164/12165/21
166/24168/18169/25173/5174/3175/13
176/4177/20178/7178/14178/25179/9
180/1181/21183/25185/13187/19189/2
191/11192/23192/24193/17194/4195/14
196/10196/11197/3197/4198/3198/12
199/23201/3202/7203/11204/4205/22
206/10207/20209/9209/17210/16211/7
211/12212/4212/7212/20212/25213/13
213/18213/21214/2214/7214/7215/4
215/6217/2217/11217/12219/16220/2
224/19224/23229/11229/12229/13
Thanks [2] 52/17225/2
that [1059]
that's [109] 8/38/208/249/59/199/21
11/1611/1913/813/2114/316/316/416/9
16/1616/2219/819/1920/520/2021/14
24/2326/1327/327/627/627/1228/430/7
42/744/1345/2046/446/1347/2554/3
54/1454/1654/2155/1360/860/1862/2
62/762/1964/1865/866/2467/870/371/1
75/1777/778/1179/679/2384/186/390/17
91/1293/1697/598/17101/5101/18
101/24102/5110/10115/1116/24124/19
128/3128/4133/24135/5136/10141/22
151/10151/14155/16158/21160/24173/9
178/4178/18179/23181/8182/18189/25
193/6194/18194/18200/4202/16203/16
203/20205/2205/3208/14211/10211/10
214/8215/8216/10222/17223/12224/15
228/11228/19
theft [12] 12/2141/2447/847/1368/990/5
90/790/990/2096/10112/18228/10
their [36] 20/922/838/6106/21113/22
113/23114/4115/21115/23127/23133/1
133/24141/18158/25165/24167/9168/3
172/24174/9177/16180/22181/22181/24
181/25182/7182/8182/17184/19186/3
200/24201/2201/11207/2207/6222/6
226/7
theirs [1] 167/25
them [126] 6/238/198/208/248/249/2
10/2312/1114/1417/2017/2118/1520/4
26/1126/1228/528/2229/129/329/431/15
36/2537/1141/2155/564/579/1088/8
89/1489/1590/390/14114/3114/14
114/22115/17116/4136/16141/7143/22
144/9147/11154/21157/15159/19159/21
163/25164/11166/19168/12172/25175/4
175/11176/24177/4179/19179/22181/5
181/6181/7186/13186/15187/3187/12
189/13190/16191/2191/5192/2193/8
193/8193/10194/6194/12194/12194/16
194/22195/6195/11195/20196/2196/14
196/15196/22197/1197/8197/14197/19
197/23197/25198/6198/7198/24198/25
200/9200/25200/25201/11203/9206/13
207/1207/2210/2210/7217/6217/16
218/13221/18223/1224/5224/5224/23
224/25224/25225/24225/25226/5227/16
227/17228/7228/7228/8228/9228/12
229/4229/5
themselves [2] 8/236/25
then [107] 5/25/195/247/217/258/25
12/421/321/521/1823/923/1029/430/20
31/2132/2033/1233/1534/334/1542/15
43/2343/2549/149/750/2154/1962/12
62/1962/2066/973/882/886/687/1787/24
88/1797/1599/9111/4111/16111/24
112/25114/16115/10115/11115/18
116/21125/10126/8126/11128/21129/8
129/15132/25140/24143/20145/23147/5
149/5154/5154/14155/19158/3161/16
162/5168/2168/14168/19170/18172/2
172/23173/24174/25177/11177/24180/6
180/8180/11185/9195/10198/6206/15
208/9208/9208/10211/24212/5214/1
214/11215/21215/24216/17216/21
216/21217/5218/8220/10220/21220/24
221/23222/3222/5222/7224/9227/9
228/22
Theodore [1] 36/22
therapy [1] 66/8
there [154] 4/226/148/88/98/129/612/22
14/1015/315/1416/716/1416/2517/317/6
17/1317/2321/2225/1727/1727/1829/7
30/932/2133/435/2035/2236/1436/20
37/1837/2538/1739/1240/1042/242/17
42/1943/143/1143/1344/345/1449/20
53/355/1359/1861/1865/965/2266/15
66/2072/372/672/1572/2174/1175/21
76/2377/2578/278/578/2279/2089/3
89/1490/1391/492/292/1697/1397/14
97/18102/1102/8107/8108/5109/18
115/5118/10121/16122/2124/8125/7
127/2127/8127/9128/8131/5135/4
135/18136/19137/3137/4137/22139/2
139/14139/16140/3140/18143/24144/8
144/17146/10146/19146/23148/9149/18
149/18150/3150/16151/25153/22156/1
157/4157/20161/2162/2164/5164/18
165/1165/4168/25170/3171/22173/20
179/22181/24182/10183/5183/17185/11
185/20185/24186/2187/17187/19200/8
202/1207/5207/25209/5215/19219/22
220/17221/7221/23224/22224/23225/15
226/2227/17228/8228/12229/6
there's [35] 4/258/1611/2411/2411/25
17/417/1317/1718/1221/1521/1621/18
22/1122/1228/233/146/1457/1289/2
99/17115/4165/2175/4179/17180/7
188/23202/13203/2225/10225/11225/15
226/17226/19226/21227/13
therefore [2] 18/1820/1
therein [1] 9/16
these [27] 7/179/812/1015/2022/631/5
31/1532/2238/2539/190/4101/3112/13
112/21116/12118/14118/16167/9167/12
183/21183/22200/13200/13201/15
206/23213/1224/21
they [178] 7/117/127/258/18/18/158/16
8/188/188/2511/511/611/1712/1213/6
13/714/1714/1715/415/1817/1718/9
18/1818/2018/2118/2219/619/720/8
21/2524/1726/1226/1326/2227/527/7
29/429/429/529/529/629/2430/530/6
30/632/1433/2033/2334/435/2135/23
36/1536/2236/2437/1938/338/1839/8
41/1541/2542/1742/1942/2043/246/25
49/350/552/457/662/1662/1862/2263/4
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they... [105] 63/1264/1264/1464/14
65/1266/1374/2387/1889/1290/2195/7
97/1598/1098/16100/20105/13116/6
125/12125/15125/17126/16128/8128/12
129/4134/2134/5134/6134/11135/3
138/16138/18138/20138/21138/22
143/18143/20144/7153/16158/17159/19
159/23160/10160/12160/13162/23
170/23171/10171/11171/20172/6172/13
175/5175/5175/6176/13176/21177/5
177/9179/4181/5181/5181/7181/11
181/16181/18186/18186/21187/2187/4
188/13188/14191/8191/18191/19192/5
192/5192/18194/9199/14200/9200/11
200/25201/1201/1201/19201/23204/15
207/8207/10210/2210/9212/24219/18
219/20220/18221/16221/22222/16
222/19223/6223/6223/7224/22225/21
225/25
they'd [1] 160/14
They'll [1] 221/12
they're [38] 5/79/711/311/2222/625/17
32/2337/2442/847/2451/2355/261/4
65/1065/1488/888/988/1088/1088/11
88/12113/7114/1115/20126/17134/8
134/13158/19161/7189/5189/15190/10
223/12225/17226/7227/1227/2227/11
they've [5] 7/1415/818/2187/9199/11
thing [28] 5/210/2217/1520/521/25
25/1326/1930/1033/843/1655/1280/22
85/588/788/1788/2290/494/17112/20
147/6148/18167/20167/20173/25178/1
180/10223/2229/7
things [56] 7/79/99/1021/1521/1621/18
21/1923/1924/825/2327/2429/2130/6
31/2335/435/736/436/936/939/2451/17
51/1956/2074/277/1285/2287/788/188/4
89/1296/1296/1396/2498/1899/17112/6
112/15112/19112/22134/11134/25
151/22151/24159/17160/11162/3165/4
183/22201/14204/21205/10209/7215/13
217/21220/14227/1
think [221] 4/255/75/85/257/67/148/14
8/229/49/149/1712/2313/914/1314/20
16/916/1317/117/1517/2218/318/11
18/1618/2018/2219/219/419/1319/23
19/2321/821/822/522/722/1022/2223/2
23/1124/124/224/324/2525/425/826/2
26/1227/1227/1727/2027/2128/228/3
28/1428/2529/133/2036/2238/2539/8
42/2342/2445/647/1748/150/154/357/19
57/2259/1661/1262/563/263/1963/22
64/272/473/1279/1079/1480/980/2381/1
87/2290/1791/1692/1994/594/1394/25
95/396/1897/1098/1599/1199/14100/22
101/3101/22102/13104/1105/18105/20
106/1106/24107/8107/14108/9109/19
109/22110/6111/1111/7111/13113/22
115/4115/4115/21115/22115/23116/14
117/3121/8123/18126/25128/3128/4
128/5135/5136/21138/7138/19138/21
139/18142/19143/18144/18144/20
145/14146/11146/13146/23147/5147/14
147/18148/7148/11148/18148/20149/5
149/8149/12149/19149/23149/25150/12
150/16150/22151/5151/10151/11151/14
152/2152/5152/8152/9152/11152/13
152/15152/16152/21152/21152/22
152/22152/23152/24153/7154/3155/10
156/1159/3159/19162/1163/4164/3
166/5167/24169/6169/12170/2170/14
171/6171/23172/23173/15174/25176/15
177/14179/1179/8179/23181/4184/15
184/15185/15198/12198/15210/9213/8
217/19219/21223/7223/10225/25226/2
226/4226/17226/17227/13228/2228/8
228/9
thinking [5] 90/1998/14102/20153/11
228/2
thinks [13] 35/2135/2236/1437/1838/3
38/1842/1742/1943/143/2153/21183/11
220/18
third [4] 12/1813/913/1988/17
this [282]
Thomas [1] 29/25
Thompson [3] 73/2274/4167/5
Thompson Reuters [1] 74/4
those [66] 6/36/37/258/199/912/13
12/2413/1114/1615/1518/418/818/25
19/820/1220/1220/1322/922/2023/4
23/1324/838/443/1143/1463/1565/9
71/1276/2577/1282/1889/1592/693/20
111/5112/6112/19114/11124/1154/11
154/14154/18154/18154/21157/17
157/20159/17161/1162/11166/4167/15
169/17180/23181/23186/24188/16189/4
192/17203/23204/21205/19209/7216/14
220/18224/22228/9
though [5] 64/1398/1157/6178/20
181/11
thought [8] 11/1624/2530/1550/197/8
150/11153/16223/11
thoughts [1] 222/10
thousands [2] 97/197/1
threat [2] 18/12227/7
three [31] 12/2112/2312/2418/735/22
65/2566/170/2075/2576/2478/2579/9
80/1584/7100/5102/1102/5105/21
128/11131/19149/17149/23154/11
154/18175/4193/4193/7206/3210/1
210/3211/24
Thrones [1] 86/21
through [59] 4/2115/1128/1529/20
29/2343/2443/2544/949/2151/655/14
55/2259/1272/172/479/1080/2286/11
94/795/2395/2496/497/24100/21100/23
103/16105/15105/17108/6116/12118/16
121/21131/1136/20138/7142/19143/5
149/7155/14156/1156/2169/4170/14
180/6180/10180/12180/13181/23189/4
190/6190/17193/14195/21196/8209/12
216/9216/12228/7228/12
throughout [1] 27/22
thumbprint [1] 100/21
Thurmond [1] 39/7
Thursday [1] 20/25
Thursdays [1] 81/15
tickets [1] 36/12
ties [1] 27/20
tight [1] 52/24
TIGTA [2] 5/2437/17
time [71] 12/1114/514/1421/323/18
23/1924/1625/1527/1527/2227/2529/19
31/131/131/332/2232/2234/134/136/4
36/636/836/1744/248/448/1648/1848/18
49/1449/1658/2061/567/872/178/282/13
82/2185/390/1495/2496/6105/13108/3
108/14108/15109/10110/2124/19125/7
126/23128/23135/11136/3137/23139/19
149/10157/4161/23172/15174/22196/3
199/2199/2199/17201/2205/9205/9
217/3224/13226/2226/23
timecards [1] 157/2
timeframe [3] 136/1160/5163/12
times [15] 42/1254/1794/21100/5
127/14131/5141/2145/14150/3179/18
191/19192/5210/1210/3220/18
TIN [1] 13/18
today [16] 9/219/2311/1111/1212/17
29/2029/2237/24117/4117/13219/16
219/22220/2220/9221/2227/22
together [6] 11/1726/1149/17124/20
132/17198/6
told [20] 8/158/2435/2240/847/1248/1
92/295/2596/199/24101/14104/1104/17
106/13107/23109/2120/23207/13222/23
224/10
Tom [1] 39/7
Tommy [1] 53/20
tomorrow [15] 11/1211/1536/1236/13
220/12221/9221/25222/8223/17224/23
227/22228/4228/20228/23229/7
tonight [1] 227/23
Tony [1] 72/20
too [13] 15/1132/2445/947/865/1168/14
89/20111/17112/20113/3191/8206/22
226/8
took [7] 34/1475/1096/6105/12105/14
166/17174/11
tool [1] 167/24
tools [5] 74/6167/8167/9167/13167/15
top [1] 83/12
topic [2] 86/1087/12
topics [1] 48/3
TORJAGBO [5] 2/54/635/11117/7230/9
total [5] 139/17140/21164/8169/12
216/3
touch [3] 31/859/22192/5
touched [4] 62/5150/23183/17183/21
touching [2] 48/493/3
tough [2] 64/18109/9
town [2] 45/477/25
track [1] 159/14
Tracy [1] 84/10
traffic [6] 55/2456/1456/2484/23205/2
205/4
trailers [1] 81/19
train [2] 52/252/13
trained [4] 112/9112/11112/25113/9
training [8] 52/1052/10113/3123/10
136/20137/4177/24211/23
trains [1] 81/19
transactional [1] 77/20
transactions [3] 14/7191/25192/2
transcript [17] 1/11/51/81/91/142/12
2/188/209/2410/210/710/1110/1411/20
151/1227/22230/12
transcripts [1] 1/2
transferred [1] 206/3
transportation [1] 70/21
travel [1] 174/12
treat [1] 227/8
treated [7] 50/273/1692/1794/494/5
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treated... [2] 109/22158/7
treatment [1] 103/10
Trek [1] 46/1
trial [64] 4/67/188/312/1212/1412/15
12/1714/1314/1524/1829/1730/2435/15
37/937/1138/144/1144/1145/1746/10
48/2553/1058/1058/2460/762/266/2
66/2268/769/471/1972/2573/2575/6
78/1079/179/2280/1881/1082/1683/21
84/1585/2485/2586/2095/2496/497/24
102/15113/21136/3157/22159/13163/24
165/5165/10170/16183/7219/25225/9
225/13226/6227/10227/10
trials [2] 164/3170/11
trickled [1] 172/15
tried [2] 109/10172/6
trophy [1] 175/20
trouble [3] 54/254/23220/19
troubles [1] 21/11
trucking [7] 122/19129/16141/11
141/14144/21158/14180/19
trucks [2] 81/19158/15
true [7] 30/774/1796/25160/21160/22
164/15230/13
Truist [1] 130/2
trunk [2] 213/22214/1
truth [6] 9/1530/2131/1934/1996/23
153/15
truthfully [1] 34/10
truthfulness [1] 98/20
try [17] 30/1633/1636/136/336/468/21
88/389/2391/24110/10136/22150/16
165/10180/4180/12182/16222/1
trying [8] 33/865/496/7102/3102/4
103/11152/2156/3
TSA [3] 183/23203/15203/22
Tuesday [2] 20/24160/6
tuned [1] 226/8
Turbo [2] 190/18190/20
TurboTax [13] 167/16167/22189/19
190/17191/16193/25195/1196/5196/6
197/9197/20197/21198/9
turn [5] 6/1628/1950/2270/6217/7
turned [1] 180/24
Turner [1] 2/22
turning [2] 30/3226/9
TV [49] 44/1544/1544/1546/1446/15
48/1649/549/550/1750/2251/651/16
51/1752/753/1454/456/256/356/1958/14
59/460/1060/1061/768/1270/2571/23
73/674/175/1376/677/1177/1379/379/25
80/2082/782/782/2083/1183/2484/17
84/1786/586/21157/17157/21170/7
170/9
tweak [1] 25/7
twice [1] 105/9
two [87] 4/125/47/1411/2411/2412/24
13/113/213/513/1013/1214/2214/22
15/1515/2015/2115/2216/517/217/25
18/418/618/1618/1918/1918/2318/23
19/1420/220/1020/1021/1222/1222/18
24/1324/1825/225/2025/2426/2327/1
27/327/1827/1927/2137/837/1037/22
37/2544/846/848/1052/353/753/2457/2
57/258/861/468/570/174/2474/2475/25
77/385/2387/11104/6117/9118/10127/9
128/20128/21132/10133/23145/13
145/18169/10177/4184/13195/4196/21
197/13198/11216/17220/18228/15
type [28] 9/913/1128/2102/4103/12
112/16121/19125/17127/21128/15129/2
129/4132/4134/6142/11160/25162/8
163/15170/22173/19175/18177/25185/3
204/15204/21204/21212/13221/22
types [3] 40/11137/5201/25
typewritten [1] 230/12
typical [1] 199/3
typically [4] 8/2244/17116/13200/22
Tyson [1] 38/2
U
U.S [7] 1/142/213/2134/16140/8140/21
196/25
U.s. [3] 43/1383/17183/4
U.S. Army [1] 83/17
U.s. citizen [2] 43/13183/4
U.S.C [1] 13/25
UGA [1] 68/6
uh [5] 108/21147/16156/24173/6191/12
Uh-huh [3] 108/21173/6191/12
Uh-oh [1] 156/24
UK [1] 140/23
ultimately [2] 152/3171/19
um [34] 56/859/1563/1463/1865/10
67/2369/2281/582/1098/25126/1126/4
127/20135/22138/1138/15143/21155/20
157/11158/10159/8161/10161/24164/19
170/9170/12195/9198/9201/4202/4
203/13203/21209/2209/8
um-hmm [34] 56/859/1563/1463/18
65/1067/2369/2281/582/1098/25126/1
126/4127/20135/22138/1138/15143/21
155/20157/11158/10159/8161/10161/24
164/19170/9170/12195/9198/9201/4
202/4203/13203/21209/2209/8
Umm [1] 155/9
Umm-hmm [1] 155/9
unable [2] 120/11120/17
unanimous [1] 16/14
uncle [5] 91/9125/6125/10126/21159/1
uncles [1] 158/16
under [8] 17/1518/2319/319/2320/1
24/127/20144/12
understand [16] 7/1222/329/2235/19
39/1640/2147/1347/1457/1259/1959/21
141/9151/13191/19216/23227/6
understanding [4] 7/1146/2347/4
150/14
Understood [1] 124/21
underwriting [2] 53/453/6
unemployed [1] 58/19
unequivocal [1] 152/4
unfair [3] 28/10171/10171/10
unfairly [1] 50/2
unfold [2] 157/22157/23
unfortunately [5] 54/176/494/2194/23
215/22
uniform [1] 208/18
union [2] 130/6131/5
UNITED [32] 2/12/34/64/84/1112/18
14/114/1114/1619/1121/436/2036/23
37/237/537/738/738/843/656/1063/13
63/2477/13116/10119/22119/25120/2
120/4120/4218/1230/5230/9
United States [21] 4/84/1112/1814/1
14/1114/1619/1136/2037/238/738/843/6
56/1063/13116/10119/22119/25120/2
120/4120/4218/1
university [9] 58/2172/2373/377/4104/5
135/12185/6213/16213/17
unjustly [1] 109/10
unless [6] 22/11154/9155/14185/9
216/20226/18
unpleasant [5] 118/5119/16142/11
171/7172/3
unrelated [1] 24/11
until [14] 12/1731/243/2360/562/11
87/1587/16104/25105/20115/8115/9
136/1160/4220/25
unusual [1] 111/13
up [78] 5/257/210/1111/2127/227/13
28/1229/432/1232/1432/1532/2134/8
34/834/1638/1440/1443/2348/248/2
49/1749/1856/2359/564/565/271/577/19
81/790/1491/2293/697/2097/2499/5
101/7105/1110/12110/21111/24115/5
116/15116/18116/21116/23120/24
124/15125/2127/14146/18157/2162/11
171/17172/10172/11180/11186/3199/2
204/20207/6208/2209/5211/8212/2
213/12218/16218/22221/16221/17
221/23222/11226/6226/9226/14227/22
227/25228/20229/9
upon [7] 31/1134/2435/2042/16151/7
215/20223/14
ups [1] 186/5
upset [4] 33/1833/23101/21148/23
us [30] 5/619/431/433/837/837/1037/15
40/1443/2143/2460/2188/2590/2191/7
93/15102/6103/21107/23109/2109/4
116/7116/19120/23125/2150/22169/20
200/2215/9219/17221/2
use [23] 14/2220/424/1226/1226/13
28/2033/11127/21149/12149/13167/9
190/4191/16193/11193/16193/24194/13
194/22196/5196/6196/17216/13216/20
used [18] 1/1313/113/1513/1713/18
13/2023/1823/1871/1282/13100/5
100/18158/15179/19190/21190/23
197/10200/15
user [1] 193/15
users [1] 192/22
using [14] 13/2213/2315/1922/2423/4
23/723/1123/1324/727/2128/12113/7
153/24167/16
usually [5] 45/2370/25114/2127/21
221/17
V
VA [2] 66/984/24
vacation [1] 157/4
Valdosta [1] 204/10
Valerie [1] 84/22
variety [1] 70/7
various [3] 4/2123/1168/8
Vaughan [2] 55/1955/20
verdict [12] 16/1542/1357/661/1669/18
69/1982/1783/2285/398/8119/7120/9
version [1] 196/4
very [76] 16/1716/1921/2022/625/10
28/229/1429/2430/1631/234/2138/22
41/1347/1547/2352/1653/1758/258/17
59/2561/2166/1667/2268/1068/2374/8
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very... [50] 75/175/1175/1976/1978/6
80/1281/481/2181/2582/2583/383/13
84/885/1586/2587/1588/1091/2193/9
95/1199/19101/21101/23103/15106/7
108/20109/9110/11110/22112/16114/6
116/1116/4124/15124/22150/18150/23
152/14152/22153/7156/23172/15187/4
193/15193/16214/12220/2223/23223/23
224/19
vet [2] 214/4214/6
Veteran [2] 30/8213/7
victim [35] 44/1445/2046/1348/1549/3
51/1553/1354/456/1959/360/966/2568/9
70/470/2471/2277/883/986/286/392/5
94/1894/2197/19104/2104/19106/20
106/20106/23107/12109/3117/16184/4
209/10210/20
victims [9] 55/2561/668/2276/1093/17
100/3106/15107/25108/12
videos [1] 192/10
Vietnam [3] 30/8213/7213/8
view [10] 96/896/1397/298/1398/17
113/7113/22136/21151/24152/7
views [2] 99/7124/5
violating [1] 223/23
violation [2] 17/717/14
violence [2] 81/16225/11
Visa [1] 126/3
visible [1] 225/17
visit [1] 168/11
voice [3] 76/1591/13152/19
voir [3] 30/1930/20115/8
voir dire [2] 30/19115/8
VOLUME [1] 2/5
volumes [1] 149/20
volunteered [1] 32/6
W
W-O-N-D-E-R-G-E-M [1] 5/17
WABE [1] 77/15
Wadley [1] 79/19
wages [2] 13/7122/17
wait [4] 43/23160/4160/11209/21
waited [1] 154/22
waiting [1] 79/1
waived [1] 26/20
Wake [1] 64/15
Walgreens [1] 55/22
walk [3] 51/654/1858/3
walking [1] 221/7
wall [2] 137/25221/8
want [83] 4/154/204/236/17/211/317/17
17/2120/1822/424/1524/1725/1125/15
29/129/529/829/1931/1633/233/1336/17
37/2138/2548/251/559/859/2063/1065/5
66/268/273/487/189/2389/2390/2195/18
97/797/998/799/499/24101/15102/6
103/9106/3106/13107/23115/13116/6
124/11146/16146/17146/19148/16149/6
149/15150/18151/13151/17154/9154/19
182/18185/9187/7206/2208/21215/12
218/12218/18218/19219/16222/11
222/24224/5224/13224/13224/14224/15
225/6226/14229/6
wanted [19] 5/25/511/1712/1112/12
20/1422/647/2589/1289/2091/792/2
93/15104/1107/9109/4110/21147/6
147/18
wanting [1] 150/22
wants [3] 18/618/15149/13
warehouse [5] 48/2366/970/1180/17
86/24
was [320]
wasn't [13] 7/719/1520/2423/2030/15
45/185/10158/6159/15159/22181/12
181/17187/13
waste [1] 36/4
watch [49] 44/1544/1645/245/2146/14
46/1448/1649/549/650/1450/1450/19
50/2051/1651/1652/753/1454/456/2
56/1958/1459/460/1061/762/367/167/19
68/1370/570/671/2373/674/175/1375/13
75/1476/679/379/379/2580/2082/783/24
84/1784/1886/686/7164/21165/17
watched [3] 51/251/4157/15
watching [14] 46/1550/1950/2050/21
50/2151/656/566/479/4157/20161/1
164/20165/1170/14
water [1] 71/4
waters [1] 17/1
way [52] 17/1917/2119/1922/1122/12
23/1924/124/225/1430/230/630/2131/8
33/134/2235/848/158/2459/965/1685/12
88/1492/1696/14100/20109/19112/15
114/9116/1151/4170/15180/15182/16
182/19182/20184/14185/16187/7187/12
191/24195/12196/2196/23197/9198/1
203/6216/7221/8221/10222/2225/21
229/6
Wayne [2] 40/1548/8
ways [3] 30/9112/5182/5
we [239]
we'd [1] 100/21
we'll [25] 33/533/533/634/234/334/5
38/1591/191/24116/9155/1155/25180/3
180/10180/12185/8216/21216/25218/8
220/23221/20221/23224/23224/25
227/25
we're [40] 4/1116/923/526/127/227/9
30/1830/2233/843/2243/2248/487/389/3
102/3115/25116/1140/15140/15140/16
147/21155/21159/13182/19189/4211/3
213/15214/9214/16215/12216/2220/9
220/11221/18221/25222/5224/12224/18
226/9228/5
we've [23] 23/1229/1032/1972/1688/22
115/22140/23140/24143/10149/1155/24
180/12180/21180/23181/22183/14
185/10185/13202/10209/11209/20
215/14221/19
wearing [1] 54/14
Wednesday [2] 10/25228/5
week [8] 36/1038/1660/2166/15143/23
159/24208/10219/25
weeks [4] 36/1150/24132/10159/24
weigh [1] 108/10
welcome [3] 82/2193/18195/15
well [71] 4/126/26/78/38/179/139/19
11/113/1614/2121/821/1422/824/1027/9
27/1229/637/1739/1654/1656/1560/20
63/464/1565/865/1267/771/1373/276/5
78/591/291/2094/2295/497/20106/16
108/25109/8109/24109/25113/25116/1
124/15126/6138/9145/7148/21149/7
149/23151/22154/4154/6154/8155/16
162/13162/20164/14166/7182/18187/22
195/7199/1206/23215/16220/21221/18
222/20226/4226/20227/9
Wells [2] 134/4138/19
went [27] 49/2162/1962/2064/871/25
72/478/178/580/2286/1194/695/2395/23
96/497/23108/6161/12161/16163/2
173/24184/6200/25201/10209/14210/9
212/10212/11
were [89] 12/2013/613/1114/1715/3
18/718/1820/1921/2221/2222/934/12
40/640/849/349/1549/1750/557/257/9
61/1061/1362/662/865/969/1469/1672/1
80/1987/591/692/1792/2292/2293/16
95/895/2596/196/1496/2597/197/2099/7
100/8100/11102/17107/24113/9118/13
123/17125/25127/8130/12130/17134/25
135/10139/16143/2145/14148/10149/18
151/24152/4153/16159/10161/14163/23
164/3164/5171/11171/20172/1172/3
172/8173/19173/25174/17175/25192/5
210/1211/13212/5212/16227/21228/9
228/13228/16229/15230/11
Wesley [1] 78/21
west [2] 65/6178/19
westerns [4] 70/570/570/670/6
what [183] 7/218/28/249/710/1111/16
15/415/1016/116/616/1319/419/1820/5
21/422/2226/1026/1126/1226/1326/15
28/330/1930/1930/2232/1634/2034/21
34/2234/2535/535/735/2039/1640/22
42/2342/2442/2544/1944/2245/2546/1
46/2346/2547/1747/2549/2150/650/6
50/651/1051/1653/2154/754/956/257/6
57/1359/1359/2162/964/2466/767/4
68/1168/1770/870/1271/271/2572/374/3
74/2075/1376/1677/1778/1480/280/5
81/281/1381/1782/2283/2585/885/19
86/1186/2394/696/2197/897/1298/8
100/22102/21102/24102/25103/10
103/16110/3110/3110/17111/21116/13
116/16117/12118/17122/7124/13125/1
125/11126/2127/2128/15129/1129/4
130/1130/12130/13131/3131/20134/2
138/20140/2142/18145/11145/25147/2
150/4150/22151/6153/17153/23154/1
154/16156/2160/12161/11162/8163/15
170/22171/10173/19175/18176/1176/17
179/14184/22187/2187/3192/9194/25
195/5198/18199/20200/6200/7202/16
203/20204/15205/2205/3205/15207/8
208/14208/14211/2211/21212/7212/8
212/15212/18212/22213/10215/16222/4
222/24223/2223/14223/19225/24228/19
229/3
what's [15] 9/1125/557/2464/2070/5
122/2147/3170/16192/12200/11204/25
207/8212/1222/19223/18
whatever [9] 27/2267/2179/685/6
143/19174/14199/5201/25218/19
whatsoever [3] 35/23223/19223/23
Wheel [1] 46/15
Wheeler [1] 206/6
when [78] 6/38/2220/923/924/1626/1
26/927/2130/531/331/431/2136/845/23
49/1858/359/1861/561/1062/1262/20
67/2082/2186/687/1692/2297/1399/8
100/19102/7103/8105/13131/5131/10
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when... [44] 135/23141/13143/2143/19
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