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TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings as to Amanda Christian held on 3/23/2022, before Judge JP… — USA v. Thomas et al (Dkt. 759)

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Filed2023-10-20

U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia · No. 1:20-cr-00296-JPB-CMS · Doc. 759 · 2023-10-20 · Docket on CourtListener

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A transcript of change of plea proceedings as to Amanda Christian, No. 1:20-cr-00296-JPB-CMS, before Judge J.P. Boulee in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, held by Zoom on March 23, 2022 and filed October 20, 2023 as Document 759. The transcript records the defendant's consent to a video hearing, the oath, the court's review of the rights given up by a guilty plea, and her stated plea of guilty to Count 34. The Assistant United States Attorney reads the plea agreement paragraph by paragraph, describing a base offense level under Section 2B1.1, a 16-level upward adjustment for a loss between 1.5 million and 3.5 million and an agreement to pay $835,540 plus interest in restitution to three victims. It also describes cooperation obligations and a possible 5K or Rule 35 motion for substantial assistance. The transcript is 30 pages.

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THE FOLLOWING IS THE PDF OF AN OFFICIAL 
TRANSCRIPT.  OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPTS MAY ONLY BE FILED IN CM/ECF 
BY THE OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER AND WILL BE RESTRICTED IN 
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REFERENCING PAGE AND LINE NUMBER, ONLY AFTER THE COURT 
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PROHIBITED FROM ATTACHING A FULL OR PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT TO ANY 
DOCUMENT FILED WITH THE COURT. 
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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AMANDA CHRISTIAN,
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DEFENDANT.
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TRANSCRIPT OF CHANGE OF PLEA PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE HONORABLE J.P. BOULEE
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
MARCH 23, 2022
APPEARANCES:
ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT: 
TAL COHEN CHAIKEN, ESQ.
NATHAN PARKER KITCHENS, ESQ.
BABASIJIBOMI MOORE, ESQ.  
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT:
JAMES GABRIEL BANKS, ESQ.
STENOGRAPHICALLY RECORDED BY:  
PENNY PRITTY COUDRIET, RMR, CRR
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
ATLANTA, GEORGIA 
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(PROCEEDINGS HELD VIA ZOOM TECHNOLOGY AT 10:05 AM, 
ATLANTA, GEORGIA)
COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK:  The Court has set aside time 
this morning for a change of plea hearing in case United 
States v. Christian, case 1:20-CR-296.  
Counsel, will you please make your appearance for the 
record. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Good morning, your Honor.  Tal Chaiken 
for the United States.  And with me on behalf of the 
government is Nathan Kitchens from my office, CG Moore from 
the Department of Justice's fraud division, Special Agents Joe 
Stites and Steffan Bublitz from the FBI, and Jeff Hale from 
the IRS. 
MR. BANKS:  Good morning, Judge.  Gabe Banks on 
behalf of Ms. Christian.  And Ms. Christian is present on the 
Zoom hearing. 
THE COURT:  Good to see everyone.  
If we could please swear in the defendant. 
(The defendant was duly sworn) 
THE COURT:  All right.  Thank you, Ms. Oduka.  
Under Section 2 of the Northern District of Georgia's 
General Order 20-04 the Court finds that this hearing cannot 
be further delayed without serious harm to the interests of 
justice.  
Mr. Banks, do I understand correctly that you've 
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discussed handling this hearing by Zoom with your client and 
that she consents to handling it by Zoom and waives her 
personal appearance in court before me?  
MR. BANKS:  Yes, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  And, Ms. Christian, let me ask you 
as well.  Do you waive your personal appearance in court 
before me and consent to doing this by Zoom video conference?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  Thank you.  
Ms. Chaiken, if you could please verify the 
signatures on the plea agreement. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes, your Honor.  
Ms. Christian, do you have a copy of the guilty plea 
and plea agreement?  It's a 20-page PDF. 
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, ma'am. 
THE COURT:  And have you had an opportunity to review 
this document with your attorney?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, ma'am. 
THE COURT:  On page 17, above where it says your 
name, is that your signature?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, ma'am. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  And, Mr. Banks, above where it says 
your name on page 17, is that your signature?  
MR. BANKS:  It is. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Ms. Christian, on page 18 above where 
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it says your name, is that your signature?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, ma'am. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  And, Mr. Banks, on page 19 above where 
it says your name, is that your signature?  
MR. BANKS:  Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Thank you.  
Ms. Christian, before I can accept your plea of 
guilty, I need to go over several matters with you.  As we go 
through this process, if anything I state is unclear, let me 
know and I will repeat or rephrase it for you.  
It's important that you understand not only my 
statements to you but also my questions.  You need to 
understand my questions so that you can answer them 
truthfully.  A failure to truthfully answer any question could 
result in additional charges being brought against you.  
Also, as I ask questions, please answer the questions 
out loud.  This will allow the court reporter to take down 
your responses so we can have an accurate record of these 
proceedings.  
Do you understand, ma'am?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  How old are you?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Thirty-four. 
THE COURT:  How far did you go in school?  
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THE DEFENDANT:  I have a bachelor's degree. 
THE COURT:  In the last 24 hours have you taken any 
drugs, medicine, pills or had any alcoholic beverages to 
drink?  
THE DEFENDANT:  I take Claritin for my allergies 
daily.  And I'm on birth control pills. 
THE COURT:  I assume that those don't, but those 
don't affect your judgment or actions in any manner or your 
ability to understand these proceedings and enter a knowing 
plea, do they?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir. 
THE COURT:  Have you been treated recently for any 
mental illness or addiction to alcohol or drugs?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir. 
THE COURT:  And, Mr. Banks, are you aware of any 
issues regarding your client's competence to enter a plea this 
morning?  
MR. BANKS:  No, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  I'll now review with you the rights, 
ma'am, you're guaranteed under the Constitution and laws of 
the United States.  I want to be sure that you understand your 
rights and by entering this plea of guilty, you're giving up 
many of these rights.  
Do you understand that under the Constitution and 
laws of the United States you have the right to plead not 
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guilty and have a trial by jury?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that you're entitled to 
a speedy and public trial on the charge against you?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that you have the right 
to be represented by an attorney throughout all proceedings 
and if you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to 
represent you at no cost to you?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that if you pled not 
guilty and went to trial, at the trial you would be presumed 
to be innocent and that the government would have to overcome 
the presumption and prove you guilty beyond a reasonable 
doubt?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that at a trial you 
would not have to prove that you were innocent because the 
burden would be on the government to prove you're guilty 
beyond a reasonable doubt?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that at a trial you 
would have the right to subpoena witnesses which would be an 
order from the Court compelling their appearance at trial to 
testify on your behalf?  
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THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that during a trial 
witnesses for the government must come to court and testify in 
your presence?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that your attorney 
would have the opportunity to cross-examine the witnesses for 
the government, object to evidence offered by the government 
and offer evidence on your behalf?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that at a trial, while 
you would have the right to testify if you chose to do so, you 
also would have the right not to testify?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  And do you understand that if you chose 
not to testify or put on any evidence, those facts could not 
be used against you?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that in order to 
convict you at a trial, the jury would have to reach a 
unanimous verdict that you were guilty of the crime with which 
you're charged?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  If I accept your plea of guilty, you will 
not have a trial and a jury will not decide your guilt, but I 
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will find you're guilty of the charge based on your admission 
that you're guilty.  Do you understand?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Are you willing to give up your right to 
a trial and proceed with a plea of guilty at this time?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  You earlier verified your signature on 
the plea agreement that you've entered into with the 
government.  In a moment I will ask the Assistant US Attorney 
to review the terms of the agreement other than the factual 
basis for the plea and the penalties which we will discuss a 
bit later in the proceeding; 
After that, I will be asking you whether the 
agreement as presented accurately reflects your understanding 
of the agreement that you have reached with the government.  
Ms. Chaiken. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you, your Honor.  
Paragraph one of the plea agreement sets forth 
Ms. Christian is pleading guilty to Count 34 because she is, 
in fact, guilty of that offense.   
Paragraphs 2 through 6 set forth an acknowledgment 
and a waiver of the rights the Court just covered with 
Ms. Christian.  
Paragraph 7 through 9 sets forth an acknowledgment  
of the penalties associated with the offense to which 
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Ms. Christian is pleading guilty, which I understand we'll be 
reviewing in a moment.  
Paragraph 11 provides the government's agreement not 
to bring further charges related to the charge to which 
Ms. Christian is pleading guilty.  
Paragraphs 12 through 15 set forth a series of 
guideline stipulation; specifically, that the base offense 
level is Section 2B1.1, that a 16-level upward adjustment will 
apply under Section 2B1.1(b)(1)(h) because the amount of loss 
is between 1.5 million and 3.5 million, that there will not be 
a two-level adjustment pursuant to Section 2B1.1(b)(10) for 
sophisticated means, and that there will not be a two-level 
upward adjustment for obstruction of justice.  
Paragraph 16 provides the government's agreement to 
recommend an adjustment for acceptance of responsibility to 
the maximum extent authorized by the guidelines subject to the 
exceptions that are set forth in that paragraph.  
Paragraph 17 provides the parties' agreement that  
each party reserves the right to make recommendations for 
sentencing and that there are no agreements on the guidelines 
other than those mentioned in the agreement.  
Paragraph 18 provides that the United States reserves 
the right to modify its sentencing recommendation if it 
receives additional information that's relevant to those 
issues.  
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Paragraph 19 provides that the -- that Ms. Christian 
agrees to cooperate truthfully and completely with the 
government, including producing all records requested, making 
herself available for interviews, responding truthfully to all 
government inquiries, and at the government's request 
testifying at trial or another proceeding.  
Pursuant to paragraph 20 Ms. Christian consents to 
direct contact with the government outside the presence of her 
counsel for purposes of cooperation.  
Paragraph 21 provides the government's agreement to 
abide by Section 1B1.8 of the sentencing guidelines and not to 
use information previously unknown to the government for 
sentencing guidelines purposes with the caveat that if 
Ms. Christian is not truthful or candid in her cooperation, 
she may be prosecuted for perjury, false statements, 
obstruction and all the information may be used against her.  
Paragraph 22 provides the government's agreement to   
a conditional 5K or Rule 35 motion if the defendant provides 
substantial assistance.  
It provides Ms. Christine's understanding that the 
government alone will determine if she provided substantial 
assistance.  And that while the government may recommend a 
sentence reduction if it files a motion, the ultimate decision 
on any sentence reduction would rest with the Court.  
Pursuant to paragraph 23 the government agrees to 
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recommend a sentence at the low end of the guideline range 
subject to the caveat in Paragraph 16 regarding acceptance of 
responsibility.  
Pursuant to paragraph 24 the United States agrees to 
make no specific recommendation as to the fine to be imposed.  
Paragraph 25 provides Ms. Christian's agreement to 
pay $835,540 plus applicable interest and restitution to the 
three victims who are identified in the plea agreement.  
Paragraphs 26 and 27 provide Ms. Christian's 
agreement to forfeiture of any assets that were seized in 
connection with this case.  
Paragraph 28 provides the government's -- I'm sorry, 
Ms. Christian's agreement to pay a special assessment of $100.  
Paragraphs 29 through 33 provide Ms. Christian's 
agreement to cooperate fully in the collection of any 
restitution or fine pursuant to the terms that are laid out in 
those paragraphs.  
Paragraph 34 provides Ms. Christian's -- that       
Ms. Christian understands that the recommendations in the plea 
agreement are not binding on the Court.  
Paragraph 35 sets forth an appeal waiver, which I 
would like to read in full into the record.  
To the maximum extent permitted by federal law the 
defendant voluntarily and expressly waives the right to appeal 
her conviction and sentence and the right to collaterally 
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attack her conviction and sentence in any post-conviction 
proceeding including but not limited to motions filed pursuant 
to 28 United States Code, Section 2255, on any ground except 
that the defendant may file a direct appeal of an upward 
departure or upward variance above the sentencing guideline 
range as calculated by the district court.  
Claims that the defendant's counsel rendered 
constitutionally ineffective assistance are excepted from this 
waiver.  
The defendant understands that this plea agreement 
does not limit the government's right to appeal, but if the 
government initiates a direct appeal of the sentence imposed, 
the defendant may file a cross-appeal of that same sentence.  
Paragraph 36 sets forth the standard FOIA and Privacy 
Act waiver.  
And paragraph 37 provides that there are no other 
agreements between the parties other than those set forth in 
the plea agreement. 
THE COURT:  Thank you.  
Ms. Christian, does that accurately reflect the 
agreement that you believe you've reached with the government?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
MR. BANKS:  Judge, if I may, I may have heard it 
wrong, but on paragraph 13, provision B, I thought she said 
2B1.1(b)(1)(H).  I think the loss amount is correct, 1.5 to 
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3.5, but (b)(1)(H), if I heard it correctly, actually provides 
for a loss amount of 550 to 1.5.  I do believe it's correctly 
reflected in the plea agreement, I just thought I heard her 
say (b)(1)(H) as opposed to (b)(1)(I), if that makes sense.  
So I just wanted to make that notation on the record. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  I do believe I misspoke, your Honor.  
The plea agreement does set forth that the applicable 
adjustment is 2B1.1(b)(1)(I).  And I think I correctly stated 
the loss amount of between 1.5 and 3.5 million, but I did 
reference the wrong subsection.  So my apologies to the Court 
for that. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  Very well.  Sounds like we've got 
it cleared up now, so thank you.  
Ms. Christian, with that correction does that 
accurately reflect the agreement that you believe you've 
reached with the government?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that any provisions in 
the agreement regarding recommendations to be made by the 
government are not binding on the Court?  In other words, if I 
choose not to follow some recommendation the government makes, 
do you understand that you will still be bound by your plea of 
guilty and would not be entitled to withdraw the plea based on 
the Court not following the recommendation?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
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THE COURT:  Is this the only agreement that you've 
entered into with the government?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Other than the terms of this agreement 
has any promise of any kind been made to cause you to plead 
guilty?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir. 
THE COURT:  Per the terms of the plea agreement, the 
United States Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia 
has agreed not to bring any additional charges related to the 
offense to which you're pleading guilty.  
Other than those terms has anyone threatened or 
forced you to plead guilty or told you if you do not plead 
guilty further charges will be brought against you and other 
adverse action taken against you?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Banks, are you aware of any plea 
agreement or promise being made to your client other than 
what's been discussed here this morning?  
MR. BANKS:  No, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  In a moment I will ask the Assistant US 
Attorney to state the elements of the offense to which you're 
pleading guilty.  The elements of the offense are those 
matters that the government must prove beyond a reasonable 
doubt in order to convict you of the charge.
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Ms. Chaiken. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you, your Honor.  
Ms. Christian will be pleading guilty to Count 34 of 
the second superseding indictment, which charges conspiracy to 
commit wire fraud in violation of Title 18 United States Code, 
Section 1349.  
The elements of conspiracy to commit wire fraud are 
as follows:  
One, two or more persons in some way or manner agreed 
to try to accomplish a common and unlawful plan to commit wire 
fraud as charged in the indictment; 
And, two, the defendant knew the unlawful purpose of 
the plan and willfully joined in it.  
The elements of wire fraud in turn are as follows:  
One, the defendant knowingly devised or participated 
in a scheme to defraud someone by using false or fraud 
pretenses, representations or promises.  
Two, the false pretenses, representations or promises 
were about a material fact.  
Three, the defendant acted with the intent to 
defraud.  
And, four, the defendant transmitted or caused to be 
transmitted by wire some communication in interstate commerce 
to help carry out the scheme to defraud. 
THE COURT:  Thank you.  
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Ms. Christian, do you understand those are the 
elements that the government would have to prove beyond a 
reasonable doubt to convict you of the charge?  
THE DEFENDANT:  I'm sorry, your Honor, can you repeat 
that, please. 
THE COURT:  Sure.  Ms. Chaiken just listed the 
elements of the offense to which you're pleading guilty.  And 
I'm asking you if you understand that those are the elements 
that the government would have to prove beyond a reasonable 
doubt in order to convict you of the charge?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  All right.  
In a moment I will ask the Assistant US Attorney to 
summarize the evidence that the government would expect to 
present at trial to prove each of these elements.  In other 
words, these are what the government contends are the facts of 
the case.  
It's necessary for the government to state these 
facts because I must determine whether there is a factual 
basis for you to enter this plea of guilty.  
After this statement I will ask you whether you 
disagree with any of the facts as stated by the prosecutor.  
If you do, tell me and we will discuss those facts at that 
time.  
Ms. Chaiken. 
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MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you, your Honor.  
If this case were to go to trial, the United States 
would prove by admissible evidence and beyond a reasonable 
doubt the following facts.  
The Paycheck Protection Program, known as the PPP, 
was authorized as part of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and 
Economic Security Act to provide forgivable loans to eligible 
small businesses.  
Under the PPP small businesses could apply for loans 
that must be used for payroll expenses, interest on mortgage, 
rent and/or utilities.  
The amount of the PPP loan that a business could 
receive was generally two-and-a-half times, or 250 percent, of 
the business' average monthly payroll cost.  
While the United States Small Business Administration 
oversaw the PPP, individual PPP loans were issued by private 
approved lenders, including CDC Small Business Finance.
The PPP borrower application form asks the applicant 
to provide information related to their loan application, 
including the amount of the business' average monthly payroll, 
the number of the business' employees and the purpose of the 
loan, with options for payroll, lease and mortgage interest, 
utilities and/or other.  
The lender then used this information to calculate 
the amount of the loan that the business was eligible to 
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receive.  
The application form also included certain 
representations and certifications, including certifications 
as to the accuracy of the information included in the 
application itself and in any supporting documents, and the 
certification that the funds would be used to retain workers 
and maintain payroll or to make mortgage interest payments, 
lease payments and utilities payment.  
The Defendant Amanda Christian conspired with Daryl 
Thomas, Denesseria Slaton and others to submit fraudulent PPP 
loan applications for three businesses:  Advertising and Then 
Some, Inc., purportedly owned by Ms. Christian, Mickey's Auto 
and Tire, known as Mickey's, which is purportedly owned by 
Rick McDuffie, and Transportation Management Services, Inc., 
which is purportedly owned by Bern Benoit.  
On or around August 10th of 2020, Mickey's 
electronically submitted a PPP loan application to CDC Small 
Business Finance.  In its PPP loan application Mickey's 
represented that it had 67 employees and an average monthly 
payroll of $314,864 and that it would use the funds for 
payroll.  In reality Mickey's has no employees and no average 
monthly payroll.  
To support its payroll figures Mickey's submitted 
with its PPP loan application fabricated IRS form 941s, which 
are employer's quarterly federal tax returns, for several 
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quarters of 2019.  
Mickey's also submitted with its application 
fabricated payroll spreadsheets for 2019 and for January 1st 
through May 31st of 2020.  
Based on the untrue statements in Mickey's PPP 
application and the accompanying documents, CDC Small Business 
Finance deposited approximately $787,160 into Mickey's account 
at Woodforest Bank.  However, with the exception of $5,125 the 
funds were frozen and ultimately returned to CDC Small 
Business Finance because Woodforest Bank suspected the deposit 
was fraudulent.  
Ms. Christian facilitated Mickey's fraudulent PPP 
loan by directing Mr. McDuffie regarding Mickey's PPP loan 
application.  For example, she directed Mr. McDuffie to 
provide information and documentation necessary for the 
submission of the loan and provided that information and 
documentation to other individuals acting on Daryl Thomas' 
behalf, knowing that Mickey's did not have any employees and 
that Daryl Thomas would use the information and documentation 
to submit a fraudulent PPP loan application on behalf of 
Mickey's 
THE COURT:  All right.  Thank you.  
Ms. Christian, do you disagree with any of the facts 
as stated by the Assistant US Attorney?  
MR. BANKS:  Judge, if I may just briefly on behalf of 
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Ms. Christian.  We don't dispute that there's a factual basis 
for the fraud, that she participated in the fraudulent 
conduct, that she received e-mails and sent e-mails during 
this fraudulent scheme.  What is noted in the plea agreement 
under Paragraph 14(b) is that the parties have an agreement to 
dispute about whether -- what role or aggravating role, if 
any, she played in this fraudulent scheme.  And to the extent 
that any of the factual basis speaks to the role, we would ask 
respectfully that we be able to present evidence at the 
appropriate time at the sentencing hearing to contest that as 
is permitted by the plea agreement.  
Other than that, I do believe that she would admit to 
the factual basis. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Thank you, Mr. Banks.  
Ms. Christian, subject to the caveats as stated by 
your attorney, do you disagree with any of the facts as stated 
by the Assistant US Attorney?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir. 
THE COURT:  I want to go over those elements with you 
that Ms. Chaiken outlined earlier and see if you admit each of 
those.  
First off, do you admit that two or more persons in 
some way or manner agreed to try to accomplish a common and 
unlawful plan to commit wire fraud as charged in the 
indictment?  
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THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  And do you admit that you knew the 
unlawful purpose of the plan and willfully joined in it?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir.  
THE COURT:  Do you admit that you knowingly devised 
or participated in a scheme to defraud someone by using false 
or fraudulent pretenses, representations or promises?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you admit that the false pretenses, 
representations or promises were about a material fact?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you admit that you acted with the 
intent to defraud?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  And, finally, do you admit that you 
transmitted or caused to be transmitted by wire some 
communication in interstate commerce to help carry out the 
scheme to defraud?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Chaiken, if you could please state 
the potential penalties that the defendant faces for the 
charge, including any maximum penalty and any mandatory 
minimums?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes, your Honor.  
Ms. Christian faces the following maximum and 
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mandatory minimum penalties as to Count 34:  
The maximum term of imprisonment is 20 years.  
There is no mandatory minimum term of imprisonment.  
The authorized term of supervised release is zero to 
three years.  
There's a maximum fine of $250,000 or twice the gain 
or twice the loss, whichever is greatest.  
There's also full restitution, a mandatory special 
assessment of $100 and forfeiture of any property, real or 
personal, constituting or derived from the proceeds of the 
scheme directly or indirectly as a result of the offense. 
THE COURT:  Thank you.  
Ms. Christian, do you understand those are the 
possible penalties you could receive in this case?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that it's not possible 
for me to state to you today what your sentence will be?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that in deciding your 
sentence, I will consider the sentencing guidelines and that 
the sentencing guidelines are advisory, which means that I 
have the discretion to impose a sentence that is either within 
the guidelines, greater than the guidelines or less than the 
guidelines?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
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THE COURT:  In the plea agreement that was reviewed 
with you earlier, you waived certain appeal rights.  I want to 
be sure that you understand the meaning of that waiver.  
Let me first state to you the rights you would have 
if you did not waive or give up those rights.  
The defendant in every criminal case has the right to 
file a direct appeal immediately after her conviction and 
sentence.  In that appeal, you may raise any issues concerning 
the handling of your case in this court that you wish to 
raise.  
Those issues would be reviewed by the Court of 
Appeals.  If errors were found, the Court of Appeals could 
order that action be taken to correct those errors.  
Besides that right to a direct appeal, you would have 
an additional opportunity for review of your case by filing a 
writ of habeas corpus pursuant to 28 USC, Section 2255.  
That's another opportunity for you to challenge the legality 
of your conviction and/or your sentence.  These are the rights 
that every defendant has unless she waives or gives them up.  
In your plea agreement you have, for the most part, 
given up these rights.  Your right of review will be limited 
to three specific circumstances:  
First, if after calculating the sentencing guidelines 
that apply to your case, I then impose a sentence that is 
greater than the guidelines, you would have a right to file a 
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direct appeal challenging that sentence.  
Second, if the government files an appeal for any 
reason, you have a right to file a cross-appeal raising any 
issues that you wish to raise.  
Finally, you always reserve the right to challenge 
constitutionally ineffective assistance of counsel.  
But aside from these three very narrow circumstances, 
you will have no right of appeal and will be essentially bound 
by my decision.  Do you understand that, ma'am?
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Banks, have you reviewed the rights 
with your client such that you're comfortable she understands 
both her rights and her waiver of those rights?  
MR. BANKS:  I have, Judge. 
THE COURT:  And, Ms. Christian, do you understand 
that parole has been abolished in the federal system and if 
you're sentenced to prison, you will not be released early on 
parole?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Do you understand that you may be 
sentenced to a term of supervised release that will follow any 
term of imprisonment and will include rules governing your 
conduct that if you violate could result in more time in 
prison?  
THE DEFENDANT:  I'm sorry, could you repeat that.  
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THE COURT:  Certainly.  Do you understand that you 
may be sentenced to a term of supervised release that will 
follow any term of imprisonment and will include rules 
governing your conduct which if you violate could result in 
more time in prison?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Oh, yes, sir.  Yes, sir.  I missed a 
word. 
THE COURT:  And do you understand that you may be 
ordered to pay restitution to any victim of the offense?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Are you a citizen of the United States 
Government?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  And, Counsel, am I correct that 
forfeiture is in play in this case?  
MR. BANKS:  Yes, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Ma'am, do you understand that as part of 
your sentence certain property that's been identified by the 
government may be forfeited by you to the government?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Is there anything that we've talked about 
today that you do not feel that you fully understand?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No, sir. 
THE COURT:  Have you had a sufficient opportunity to 
talk about your case with your attorney and have your attorney 
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answer any questions that you have before entering your plea?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Are you satisfied with the representation 
that your attorney has provided to you?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  And how do you plead to Count 34 of the 
second superseding indictment?  
THE DEFENDANT:  I plead guilty. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Banks, do you feel you've had a 
sufficient opportunity to investigate your client's case and 
advise her concerning entry of this plea?  
MR. BANKS:  Yes, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Are you aware of any reason I should not 
accept the plea?  
MR. BANKS:  No, Judge. 
THE COURT:  Is there anything else that you want me 
to address with your client on the record at this time?  
MR. BANKS:  We would just ask that the Court allow 
her to remain on bond.  She has been in compliance with the 
terms and conditions of her bond.  I don't think the 
government as long as she's been in compliance opposes that 
request. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Is that correct, Ms. Chaiken?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  That's correct, your Honor.  We don't 
oppose to her remaining on bond. 
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THE COURT:  That's fine with the Court.  
And, Ms. Chaiken, is there anything further that the 
government wishes the Court to address?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  No, your Honor.  Thank you. 
THE COURT:  I find the defendant understands the 
charge and consequences of the plea.  
I've observed the defendant during this proceeding 
and she does not appear to be under the influence of any 
substance that might affect her judgment or actions in any 
manner.  
The Court finds that the plea has a factual basis and 
is free of any coercive influence of any kind.  
I find that there have been no promises made to the 
defendant except those set out in the plea agreement.  
I find that the defendant is competent to understand 
these proceedings and enter a knowing plea of guilty.  
I find the plea is freely and voluntarily entered.  
It's therefore ordered that the plea of guilty of the 
defendant to Count 34 of the second superseding indictment is 
accepted and entered.  
Ms. Christian, you are hereby adjudged guilty of the 
charge contained in Count 34 of the second superseding 
indictment.  
I will now be referring your case to a probation 
officer who will prepare a presentence report.  
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Before I receive the report, ma'am, you and your 
attorney will receive a copy of the report and will have an 
opportunity to object to any findings that are in the report.  
At your sentencing hearing I will hear from the 
government and any witnesses that it wishes to present, and 
from you, your attorney and any witnesses that you wish to 
present.  
At that time I will decide the proper sentence in 
your case.  
Do you understand, ma'am?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Counsel, anything else?  
MR. BANKS:  Not on behalf of Ms. Christian. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Not from the government, your Honor.  
Thank you. 
THE COURT:  All right.  
Well, good to see all of you.  
My thanks to Ms. Coudriet, our court reporter, to 
Ms. Oduka who is our -- I guess for today still just a 
temporary courtroom deputy but will be joining us as a 
courtroom deputy full time in about another week.  We're 
certainly happy to have her rolling on board.  
So, again, thanks, everyone.  We are adjourned.
(PROCEEDINGS REPORTED WERE CONCLUDED 10:36 AM)
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C E R T I F I C A T E
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
I do hereby certify that the foregoing pages are a true
and correct transcript of the proceedings taken down by me in 
the case aforesaid.
   This the 16th day of October, 2023. 
    ________________________________
  
  
               
    PENNY PRITTY COUDRIET, RMR, CRR
    OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
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