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Email with Henry Huang on Deposition Subpoena (Exhibit 114) — Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge

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Exhibit 114 (Document 157-2), filed May 27, 2021 in Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD, is an email chain headed Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A. between Matthew Madden of Robbins, Russell, Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber LLP and Henry Huang. In emails dated from December 16, 2020, Madden asks Huang to accept service of a document subpoena and to sit for a deposition by Zoom. Huang answers on March 25, 2021 that Huang is in China and will be for the near future. A December 22, 2020 email from counsel for Huang says a deposition cannot be given because Chinese law prohibits it, and quotes a State Department statement and Article 277 of China's Civil Procedure Law.

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Date
2021-05-27

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“Email with Henry Huang on Deposition Subpoena (Exhibit 114) — Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge.” Original at ecf.vaed.uscourts.gov, dated 2021-05-27. Archived at Pandemic Darlings, https://pandemicdarlings.com/source-documents/2021-05-27-deposition-in-blue-flame-medical-llc-v-chain-bridge-bank-n-a/, SHA-256 3efa57685a5398f3d8a524297e90c82cd9cb484333ad4aa92b251d9ae98b78a6.

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EXHIBIT 114

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From:
Henry Huang <henryh@chcgp.com>
Sent:
Thursday, March 25, 2021 8:08 PM
To:
Madden, Matthew
Subject:
Re: Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.
Hi Matthew,

Apologies for the belated response. I am currently still in China and will be for the near future.

Thank you.

Henry

<mmadden@robbinsrussell.com> wrote:
Mr. Huang,

I am following up on my prior emails to you.  Please let us know whether you accept service of the
document subpoena that was attached to my email last Friday, and is attached again to this email.  Please
also confirm that you will include us in any discussions you have with Blue Flame Medical concerning
your deposition that we subpoenaed last December.  If the circumstances that have made you unavailable
to testify have now changed, then we intend to conduct your deposition pursuant to that subpoena and
want to discuss scheduling and logistics with you.

Regards,
Matt

MATTHEW MADDEN
Robbins, Russell, Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber LLP
2000 K Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
P 202.775.4529     mmadden@robbinsrussell.com

From: Madden, Matthew
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 8:24 PM
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To: Henry Huang <henryh@chcgp.com>
Cc: Orseck, Gary <gorseck@robbinsrussell.com>; Burke, Donald <dburke@robbinsrussell.com>
Subject: RE: Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.

Mr. Huang,

I write further to my email earlier this week.  Attached is a subpoena for documents that we wish to
receive from you prior to your deposition in this case.  We are happy to discuss the specifics with you at
your convenience.  Please let me know that you accept email service of this subpoena.  And, once again,
if you have retained new counsel in connection with this matter, please direct us to that person.

We also reiterate our wish to participate in any further discussions involving the logistics for your
deposition in this matter.

Regards,
Matt

MATTHEW MADDEN
Robbins, Russell, Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber LLP
2000 K Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
P 202.775.4529     mmadden@robbinsrussell.com

From: Madden, Matthew
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 10:23 PM
To: Henry Huang <henryh@chcgp.com>
Cc: Orseck, Gary <gorseck@robbinsrussell.com>; Burke, Donald <dburke@robbinsrussell.com>
Subject: Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.

Mr. Huang,

I write regarding your potential deposition in this matter.
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Recall that you received a deposition subpoena from us dated December 16, 2020.  Shortly thereafter,
your counsel, Mr. Koh, told us that you were unable to provide a deposition in this case because of
Chinese law.  Mr. Koh has confirmed that he no longer represents you in this matter, but please let me
know if you have other counsel who does.

Blue Flame Medical’s counsel told us earlier today that you have had direct discussions with Blue Flame
principal John Thomas, and are now considering travelling outside of China to give testimony at Blue
Flame’s request.  Because of our prior subpoena for your testimony, we ask to be included in future
discussions concerning your potential deposition in this case.  Among other things, the significant time
difference between your location and ours will require us to confer on reasonable arrangements for the
seven hours of testimony allowed by the applicable rules, possibly spread over separate sessions on
consecutive days.

Finally, we will require a production of documents and other material from you in advance of your
deposition.  Last December, we held off on seeking such documents from you in response to Mr. Koh’s
December 22 email.  Please let us know if you will accept email service of that document subpoena.

Regards,
Matt

MATTHEW MADDEN
Robbins, Russell, Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber LLP
2000 K Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
P 202.775.4529     mmadden@robbinsrussell.com

From: 高亨植 <hskoh@winteam500.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:01 AM
To: Madden, Matthew <mmadden@robbinsrussell.com>
Cc: henryh <henryh@chcgp.com>; wujin <wujin@winteam500.com>; Orseck, Gary
<gorseck@robbinsrussell.com>; Burke, Donald <dburke@robbinsrussell.com>; Ferguson, Zachary
<zferguson@robbinsrussell.com>
Subject: Re:Fw: Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.

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Dear Mr. Madden,

We are legal counsel for Mr. Henry Huang and he has asked us to respond to your
request for a deposition to be held via Zoom on January 19.  While Mr. Huang is
sympathetic to your client's case and is not personally opposed to giving his
testimony, he will be unable to do so as Chinese law prohibits it.   The US State
Department website, https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/Judicial‐Assistance‐Country‐
Information/China.html, states the following regarding the taking of deposition in China:

"China does not permit attorneys to take depositions in China for use in foreign courts. Under its
Declarations and Reservations to the Hague Evidence Convention and subsequent diplomatic
communications, China has indicated that taking depositions, whether voluntary or compelled, and
obtaining other evidence in China for use in foreign courts may, as a general matter, only be
accomplished through requests to its Central Authority under the Hague Evidence Convention.  Consular
depositions would require permission from the Central Authority on a case by case basis and the
Department of State will not authorize the involvement of consular personnel in a deposition without
that permission. Participation in such activity could result in the arrest, detention or deportation of the
American attorneys and other participants."

Specifically, Article 277 of China's Civil Procedure Law provides:

“The request for and provision of judicial assistance shall be conducted through the channels stipulated
in the international treaties concluded or acceded to by the People's Republic of China; where no treaty
relations exist, the request for and provision of judicial assistance shall be conducted through diplomatic
channels.
The embassy or consulate in the People's Republic of China of a foreign state may serve documents on,
investigate, and take evidence from its citizens, provided that law of the People's Republic of China is
not violated and that no compulsory measures are adopted.
Except for the circumstances set forth in the preceding paragraph, no foreign agency or individual may,
without the consent of the competent authorities of the People's Republic of China, serve documents,
carry out an investigation or take evidence within the territory of the People's Republic of China.”

If you wish to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact us.  Thanks.

------------------
Peter HS Koh
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Senior Foreign Lawyer (California Bar)
Shanghai Yingdong Law Firm, Yinghe Law Group
Mobile: +86 185 0165 9714
29 Fl., Greentech Tower, 436 Hengfeng Road, Shanghai 200071, China

‐‐‐‐‐ Forwarded Message ‐‐‐‐‐
From: Madden, Matthew <mmadden@robbinsrussell.com>
To: Henry Huang <henryh@chcgp.com>
Cc: Orseck, Gary <gorseck@robbinsrussell.com>; Burke, Donald <dburke@robbinsrussell.com>;
Ferguson, Zachary <zferguson@robbinsrussell.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020, 01:42:30 AM GMT+8
Subject: RE: Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.

Mr. Huang,

Attached is a deposition subpoena to take your testimony via Zoom at 8:00 China Standard Time on
January 19.  We can discuss a different date if that is not convenient for you.  We are based in
Washington D.C., and so an early morning start, your time, works best for us.  Once you have
provided this subpoena to your counsel, please have your counsel reach out to me directly.

Thank you,
Matt

MATTHEW MADDEN
Robbins, Russell, Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber LLP
2000 K Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
P 202.775.4529     mmadden@robbinsrussell.com

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From: Henry Huang <henryh@chcgp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 5:09 AM
To: Madden, Matthew <mmadden@robbinsrussell.com>
Cc: Burke, Donald <dburke@robbinsrussell.com>
Subject: Re: Deposition in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.

Hi Matthew,

Sure, I am based in China. Feel free to send me the deposition via email. I will submit to our counsel here
for review upon receipt.

Thank you,

Henry

Sent from Smallbiz Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020, 3:10 AM, Madden, Matthew <mmadden@robbinsrussell.com>
wrote:
Mr. Huang,

I represent the defendants in a lawsuit pending in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia,
titled Blue Flame Medical, LLC vs. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.  Blue Flame Medical’s
complaint against my clients is attached.

Blue Flame Medical and Chain Bridge Bank have both identified you as a person who is
likely to have discoverable information that it may use to support its claims.  We intend
to take your deposition in connection with this matter.  That deposition would take place
via Zoom at a time that is convenient for you during January.  Please let us know if we
can send you a subpoena for that deposition by email instead of by formal service of
process.  And if you are represented by a lawyer in connection with this matter, please
ask your lawyer to contact me so that I can speak with him or her directly.

Very best regards,
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MATTHEW MADDEN
Robbins, Russell, Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber LLP
2000 K Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
P 202.775.4529    mmadden@robbinsrussell.com

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  1. Defendant S Exhibit 108 PDFsame docket · 2021-05-27
  2. Ex 3 Brough Dep PDFsame docket · 2021-05-27
  3. Email on Discovery Responses to RFPs (Exhibit 130) — Blue Flame v. Chain Bridgesame docket · 2021-05-27
  4. Given the extraordinary circumstances, the Governor issued an emergency order which permits the waiving of typicalsame docket · 2021-05-27
  5. Plaintiff Blue Flame Medical LLC’s Reply Memorandum of Lawsame docket · 2021-05-27
  6. Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge — Chain Bridge Funds Availability Disclosure (Exhibit 113)same docket · 2021-05-27
  7. Order Granting Third-Party Plaintiff Chain Bridgesame docket · 2021-05-21
  8. Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge — Deposition of Mike Gula (Exhibit 115)same docket · 2021-05-27
  9. Unopposed Motion for Leave to Submit A Video Filesame docket · 2021-05-20
  10. Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge — Deposition of Richard Chivaro (Exhibit 119)same docket · 2021-05-27
  11. Confidential Pursuant to Protective Order — Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A., et al., No. 1:20-cv-00658same docket · 2021-05-20
  12. Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge — Deposition of Michael Wong (Exhibit 120)same docket · 2021-05-27
  13. Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge — Deposition of Daniel Kim (Exhibit 121)same docket · 2021-05-27
  14. Subject: Re: 100M Mask Ordersame docket · 2021-05-20
  15. Exhibit 125 — Confidential - Charles H. Grice Vol. I — Blue Flame Medical LLC, Chain Bridge Bank N.A., 1:20-cv-00658 (Document 160-7)same docket · 2021-05-27
  16. Small Batch Orders Pyles MG Mar25 7:18amsame docket · 2021-05-20
  17. Reported By : Marj orie Peters , FAPR, RMR, CRR, RSAsame docket · 2021-05-20
  18. Confidenttal Pursuant to Protective Ordersame docket · 2021-05-27
  19. [Proposed] Order Granting Unopposed Motionsame docket · 2021-05-20
  20. Reply in Support of Motion for Summary Judgment — Blue Flame Medical v. Chain Bridge Bank (Dkt. 158)same docket · 2021-05-27

Part of: E.D. Va., CourtListener docket 477405 · Other pandemic litigation · Exhibits and declarations · Federal court dockets (PACER) · 2021 · Source documents

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