Deposition of Sean O'Malley (Exhibit 105) — Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge
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Exhibit 105, Document 142-6 in Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD, filed 05/20/21: pages from the CONFIDENTIAL transcript of the April 6, 2021 deposition of Sean O'Malley in Blue Flame Medical LLC v. Chain Bridge Bank, N.A. The appearance pages list counsel for Chain Bridge Bank, N.A., for Blue Flame Medical LLC and Mr. O'Malley, and for Third-Party Defendant JPMorgan Chase Bank. In the testimony, Mr. Madden asks about the customer due diligence process banks use in opening new accounts. Mr. O'Malley answers that a customer risk profile is unique to each institution and describes enhanced due diligence, periodic review, jurisdiction of domicile and industry classification.
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“Deposition of Sean O'Malley (Exhibit 105) — Blue Flame v. Chain Bridge.”
Original at ecf.vaed.uscourts.gov, dated 2021-05-20. Archived at Pandemic Darlings, https://pandemicdarlings.com/source-documents/2021-05-20-gov-uscourts-vaed-477405-142-6/
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EXHIBIT 105 Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD Document 142-6 Filed 05/20/21 Page 1 of 5 PageID# 3437 Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD Document 142-6 Filed 05/20/21 Page 2 of 5 PageID# 3438 Sean O'Malley CONFIDENTIAL 4/6/2021 Page 2 (2 - 5) Page 2 Page 4 1 counsel for Defendants/Third Party Plaintiff in the 1 APPEARANCES (Continued): 2 above entitled matter, pursuant to notice, the 2 3 witness being duly sworn by MARY GRACE CASTLEBERRY, a 3 4 Notary Public in and for the State of Maryland, taken 5 at 9:32 am. EDT, Tuesday, April 6, 2021, and the 6 proceedings being taken down by Stenotype by MARY 7 GRACE CASTLEBERRY, RPR, and transcribed under her 8 direction. 9 10 11 12 13 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 On behalf of the Defendants/Third-Party Plaintiff Chain Bridge Bank, N.A.: MATTHEW M. MADDEN, ESQ. LESLIE ESBROOK, ESQ. Robbins Russell Englert, Orseck, Untereiner & Sauber 2000 K Street, N.W., 4th Floor Washington, D.C. 20006 (202) 775-4500 mmadden@robbinsrussell.com lesbrook@robbinsrussell.com Page 3 Page 5 1 APPEARANCES: 1 APPEARANCES (Continued): 2 2 3 On behalf of the Plaintiff Blue Flame Medical 3 4 LLC and Mr. O'Malley: 4 5 JASON MITCHELL, ESQ. 5 6 ANGIE GARCIA, ESQ. 6 7 Schulte Roth & Zabel 7 8 901 15th Street, N.W., Suite 800 8 9 Washington, D.C. 20005 9 10 (202) 729-7476 10 11 j ason.mitchell@srz.com 11 12 angela.garcia@srz.com 12 13 13 14 14 15 15 16 16 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 21 21 22 22 On behalf of the Third-Party Defendant JPMorgan Chase Bank: ALBINAS PRlZGINTAS, ESQ. Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale & Dorr LLP 1875 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20006 (212) 663-6981 albinas .prizgintas@wilmerhale.com and GABRIEL TORRES, ESQ. JPMorgan Chase Assistant General Counsel 383 Madison Avenue New York, New York 10179 (212) 270-6000 ALSO PRESENT: JASON AQUI, Videographer Alderson® ATMtpomtComp,ny www. trustpoint. one 800.FOR.DEPO (800.367.3376) Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD Document 142-6 Filed 05/20/21 Page 3 of 5 PageID# 3439 Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD Document 142-6 Filed 05/20/21 Page 4 of 5 PageID# 3440 Sean O'Malley CONFIDENTIAL 4/6/2021 Page 19 (70 - 73) 1 2 Page 70 (Recess.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back on the 3 record. The time is 10:58 a.m. 4 BY MR. MADDEN: 5 Q. Welcome back, Mr. O'Malley. Are you 6 familiar with the customer due diligence process that 7 banks use in connection with opening new accounts? 8 A. Yes, I am. 9 Q. And does that process generally involve 10 the collection of information from the prospective 11 customer? 12 A. Yes, it does. 13 Q. And the information the customer provides 14 is then in tum used to determine, among other 15 things, the customer's risk profile; is that correct? 16 17 A. That is correct. Q. And what is the risk profile, generally 18 speaking? 19 A. You're looking for a definition of the 20 customer risk profile? 21 Q. Yeah, a description really. What is it 22 and what is it used for? 1 A. The customer risk profile is -- it's Page 71 2 unique to each institution. Each has their own way 3 of evaluating customer risk profile. It's a way of 4 looking at multiple pieces of information that they 5 collect and evaluating where, based on their own 6 approach to segmenting customers, where that risk 7 profile fits. 8 Most institutions have at least a high, 9 medium and low or at least a high, low, you know, 10 customer risk rating tiering, if you will, based on 11 the information that they collect. That information 12 is used primarily in two ways in most institutions. 13 First is that you'll go through and do the 14 preliminary risk rating and, depending on where they 15 fall, if they fall in one of the higher categories, 16 you will conduct what is typically called enhanced 1 7 due diligence. So you'll ask for additional 18 information or additional documentation from that 19 particular customer. 2 0 And the second is to determine the 21 periodic review; in other words, how frequently that 22 institution is going to go back to that customer to Page 72 1 refresh the information on the customer risk profile 2 and basically make an updated assessment of where 3 they belong based on that institution's customer risk 4 rating tiering. 5 Q. Okay. Thank you for that. 6 Now, among the multiple pieces of 7 information that banks typically collect and 8 evaluate, is one of them the customer's 9 jurisdictional or geographic risk? 10 A. Yes. Most commonly it's their 11 jurisdiction of domicile. 12 Q. And is another piece of information the 13 nature of the customer's business? 14 A. Many institutions use that. I think 15 you're referring to the industry and some 16 institutions will use the specifying industry that a 1 7 customer is in such as the NAICS code. The North 18 American Industry Classification Codes. 19 Q. For example, would, all else equal, a 20 consulting company likely have a different risk 21 profile than an international importer? 22 A. I'm sorry, what was the first example? An Page 73 1 LLC what? 2 Q. No, I'll restate it. I might have cut 3 out. Okay. 4 5 A. Q. For example, all else being equal, would a 6 consulting company have a lower risk profile than an 7 international importer? 8 A. I believe - Q. Based on -- 9 10 11 12 A. -- a domestic consulting company. Q. Sure. A. Right. It would depend on the type of 13 consulting that they're doing. Some types of 14 consulting are considered riskier than others 15 depending on the underlying industry obviously. 16 An export-import business is -- you know, 1 7 typically you're involving cross-border transactions 18 so that, you know, that can be -- that's something 19 that's taken into account. Anything that is 2 0 transnational will -- will typically be determined to 21 have a higher risk rating than something purely 22 domestic. Alderson® ATIUl!pomtComp,ny www. trustpoint. one 800.FOR.DEPO (800.367.3376) Case 1:20-cv-00658-LMB-IDD Document 142-6 Filed 05/20/21 Page 5 of 5 PageID# 3441
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