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Jury Trial Transcript, Day 1 (October 25, 2022) — United States v. Adedayo Ilori

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The day one jury trial transcript in United States v. Adedayo Ilori, 21 Cr. 746 (MKV), for proceedings on October 25, 2022 before the Hon. Mary Kay Vyskocil in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, filed November 18, 2022 as Document 92. It opens with the court and counsel settling the summary of the case to be read to the venire and confirming the proposed verdict form, then records jury selection. A jury of 12 and two alternates was impaneled and sworn, after which the court addressed the courthouse COVID-19 protocols and the daily schedule. The court's preliminary instructions describe the order of proof, the three categories of evidence, what is not evidence, and the jurors' duty not to discuss the case. The 31-page transcript closes with scheduling discussion and an adjournment to October 26, 2022.

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1    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
     SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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3    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

4                v.                                   21 Cr. 746 (MKV)

5    ADEDAYO ILORI,

6                   Defendant.                        Jury Trial
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                                                      New York, N.Y.
8                                                     October 25, 2022
                                                      9:30 a.m.
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10   Before:

11                             HON. MARY KAY VYSKOCIL,

12                                                    District Judge

13
                                     APPEARANCES
14
     DAMIAN WILLIAMS
15        United States Attorney for the
          Southern District of New York
16   BY: JULIANA N. MURRAY, ESQ.
          DAVID R. FELTON, ESQ.
17        Assistant United States Attorneys

18   BRILL LEGAL GROUP, P.C.
          Attorneys for Defendant
19   BY: PETER E. BRILL, ESQ.

20   ALSO PRESENT:    ISABEL LOFTUS, Paralegal Specialist, USAO

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2              THE COURT:      Good morning, and good morning to our

3    court reporter, Ms. Walker.       Thank you for being here.

4              All right.      So we are ready to start with jury

5    selection this morning.       Just one or two things I want to talk

6    to the parties about and put on the record.

7              I mentioned to the parties earlier this morning off

8    the record that in connection with my introductory remarks to

9    our venire, the panel of prospective jurors, that I thought the

10   summary of the case -- that I thought what the parties

11   previously submitted and signed off on was more detailed and

12   lengthy than it needed to be.       It went on for five pages.           And

13   so I propose to the parties that we instead use the background

14   of the case from my opinion on the in limine motions.

15             I distributed copies of that to counsel off the

16   record, and they have sent back to me a few minor proposed

17   edits.   Let me just walk through them to be sure I'm not

18   missing anything.    All right.

19             So I had proposed to the parties, we're going to

20   strike the language after each count that says "in violation

21   of" with the statutory citation, so we'll do that for each

22   count.

23             We're going to strike in the middle of the page the

24   words "in connection with another fraud and identity theft case

25   in this district."


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1               I'm going to get rid of the parentheticals, you know,

2    the citations for the record, ECF and that sort of thing for my

3    opinion.

4               Coming down to the bottom third of the page on the

5    right-hand side we're going to strike "the government alleges"

6    and just say "the indictment alleges."

7               Oh, and I missed, I'm sorry, up above you're proposing

8    to strike "superseding" before the word "indictment."               So we'll

9    just say indictment throughout.

10              All right.     And then I'm going to strike the sentence

11   saying "many of these applications were submitted in the name

12   of two particular victims, hereinafter identity victim one and

13   two."

14              And in the final sentence we will strike the word

15   "the" before representations, and we'll strike all before

16   false.

17              With that, do the parties consent to this summary of

18   the case?

19              MS. MURRAY:     Yes, your Honor.      Just to confirm -- I

20   understand it's stricken with the comments you made.               I just

21   want to confirm footnote two will be stricken.

22              THE COURT:     Of course.     That wasn't meant to be part

23   of what I was giving you.       But that is out, and obviously

24   everything else from my opinion is out.

25              MS. MURRAY:    So the government consents, your Honor.


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1              THE COURT:      Okay.   Mr. Brill.

2              MR. BRILL:      Yes, your Honor.      Thank you.

3              THE COURT:      It's acceptable?

4              MR. BRILL:      Yes.

5              THE COURT:      Okay.   Thank you very much.

6              Is there anything else we need to discuss among

7    ourselves before we let the jury administrators know that we're

8    ready for the panel of the prospective jurors?

9              MS. MURRAY:     Nothing from the government, your Honor.

10             MR. BRILL:      Nothing, your Honor.       Thank you.

11             THE COURT:      All right.     Thank you.

12             So Ms. Dempsey will advise downstairs that we're ready

13   for our prospective jurors.

14             What we're going to do is tell people not to sit in

15   the jury box or the first several rows.           Ms. Dempsey has it all

16   figured out.    So people will be standing for a few minutes

17   until we spin the wheel to populate the first 32 seats, which

18   is the size of the wheel we need ultimately for challenges,

19   okay?

20             One more matter on the record.          Mr. Brill, the verdict

21   form, you had asked at the pretrial conference for time to just

22   look it over and let me know when you're in agreement with the

23   Court's edits to the proposed verdict form?

24             MR. BRILL:      Yes, your Honor.      I have no objection.

25             THE COURT:      All right.     Thank you.


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1              While we're waiting, let me just ask on the record,

2    have you had further questions on -- you have raised,

3    Mr. Brill, on what you could say about Mr. Recamier.                 Have you

4    had those conferences and is there an agreement?

5              MS. MURRAY:     Yes.

6              MR. BRILL:      Yes, your Honor.

7              THE COURT:      Let Mr. Brill go first.           Go ahead.

8              MR. BRILL:      It's interesting.       Actually, the

9    government and I did a bunch of research.             There's very, very

10   little out there from the defendant's perspective on offering

11   that, and while I'm sure I could come up with a creative

12   argument as to why from the defense perspective it might be

13   different, all the case law says it's completely inappropriate.

14   And I could find no case law in support of my possibly creative

15   argument.

16             So based on that, as you can see, I didn't file

17   anything asking the Court to consider it.

18             THE COURT:      Okay.   Great.     Thank you.

19             (Continued on next page)

20             (Jury selection conducted)

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1              (A jury of 12 and two alternates was duly impaneled

2    and sworn)

3              THE COURT:      All right.     So just a couple of

4    preliminaries.    My plan for today is each of the lawyers has

5    told me that their opening statements are going to be

6    relatively brief.    So I'd like to get those started today so

7    that we can start out tomorrow morning with evidence.

8              I'm going to work hard to get you all finished with at

9    least the presentation of the evidence and the lawyers'

10   presentations to you this week, if we can possibly do that, so

11   that we get you all to complete your service promptly.

12             Let me just talk to you about a couple of things.

13             As I mentioned earlier today, the COVID-19 protocols

14   in the courthouse constantly are being updated, and the current

15   protocols say that you're not required to wear a mask, although

16   it may be prudent for people to wear a mask.               If for individual

17   reasons people opt to do that, that's absolutely fine.                 I'd ask

18   you to respect one another if people do choose to use masks.

19   We're also not requiring social distancing as we had to do

20   during the height of the pandemic.          But please be respectful of

21   one another.    The only restriction really that remains in place

22   at the courthouse now is that if you test positive for COVID,

23   if you experience symptoms, or if you're in close contact with

24   someone who tested positive, there are some remaining

25   restrictions in place.      Ms. Dempsey is going to give you her


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1    contact information before you leave today.              Please let her

2    know immediately if any of those circumstances materialize.

3    If, god forbid, you should test positive or be in contact with

4    somebody else who does, you'll please let us know about that.

5    And if you have any questions about the protocols, you can let

6    us know that as well and we'll try to answer.              Okay?

7              So in a few moments we're going to begin the trial, as

8    I say, with opening statements from counsel.              Before we do

9    that, I want to give you a little bit of information about what

10   to expect over the course of this trial and some principles of

11   law that you should keep in mind as you are serving as jurors.

12             Each day we're going to begin around 9:30 or 10:00.

13   I'll tell you before we conclude on any given day exactly what

14   time we're going to start the next morning.

15             We will make light breakfast available in the jury

16   room, which Ms. Dempsey will show to you shortly.              We'll do

17   that starting at around 8:30 for anybody who might arrive early

18   enough to be able to enjoy it, and Ms. Dempsey will, as I say,

19   give you the instructions about where you should gather and

20   where that will be.

21             Each day we'll try to take a morning break, a stretch

22   break, bathroom break.     We'll have lunch each day for roughly

23   the same amount of time that we took it today.              If you have to

24   go out and buy food, it might be a little tough.              I don't know

25   if any of you tried to do that today.         But the cafeteria is


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1    available to you.    You might want to bring your own lunch as

2    well.   We'll take a break each afternoon, and then I will

3    endeavor to finish each day around 4:30, but by 5:00 at the

4    very latest.    All right?

5              So as I said, we're going to start the trial with

6    opening statements from counsel, first from the government and

7    then from the defendant.       Opening statements are an opportunity

8    for the lawyers to give you a sense of what they think you

9    should expect to find out at trial.

10             After opening statements, the government will present

11   its evidence.    It will call witnesses, one witness at a time.

12   The government will ask its witnesses questions.             That's called

13   direct examination.       Then defense counsel, Mr. Brill, will have

14   the opportunity to ask any questions he wishes of the

15   government's witnesses.       That's called cross-examination.           And

16   then there might be what we call redirect by the government and

17   potentially recross by the defendant until each witness is

18   completed with his or her testimony.

19             After the government has called its last witness, the

20   defense has a chance to call witnesses.          Keep in mind the

21   defendant has no burden to call any witnesses or to present any

22   evidence whatsoever.       The burden at this trial is always and

23   exclusively on the government to prove guilt beyond a

24   reasonable doubt.    That said, the defendant may call witnesses

25   if he wishes to do so.


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1              After all the evidence is complete, the lawyers will

2    make closing statements, and that's their opportunity to

3    present to you arguments about what they think the evidence has

4    shown.   Then I'll instruct you on the law, and then you'll

5    retire to the jury room and deliberate to reach a verdict.

6              Now as I mentioned to you earlier today, in our

7    American system of justice, the judge and the jury each have

8    separate roles.    My job is to instruct you on the law, and as

9    I've just indicated, I will largely do that at the end of the

10   case, aside from these few instructions I'm giving you right

11   now.

12             Your job as jurors is to listen and to decide all

13   issues of fact in this case based on the evidence that will be

14   presented to you in the courtroom during the trial.              You are

15   the only tryers of fact issues, and your decisions will control

16   the verdict that gets rendered here.        I just remind you, please

17   don't take anything that I say or I do during this trial as

18   indicating what your verdict should be.         Please pay close

19   attention to all the evidence at trial.

20             The evidence will come in to you in three general

21   categories.    The first category we've just talked about; that's

22   testimony from witnesses called by the parties.             Testimony

23   given by a witness under oath is evidence.          The second category

24   of evidence consists of documents or exhibits if I formally

25   receive them into evidence during the trial.             And the third


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1    category are stipulations or agreements between the parties.

2    If the parties stipulate to certain facts or to what a witness

3    would say, that stipulation is evidence.

4              There are other things that happen during a trial that

5    are not evidence.     So for example, a question asked by a lawyer

6    before a witness answers is not evidence.          Any statement by

7    counsel, including opening statements and closing remarks to

8    you, the jury, are not evidence.        Anything that I exclude

9    during trial or if I should strike anything from the record and

10   tell you not to consider it, that is not evidence.             Finally,

11   anything that you see or you hear or you read outside of this

12   courtroom is not evidence.      You must base your verdict solely

13   on the evidence that is received in this courtroom.

14             Now from this point on until you retire to deliberate

15   on your verdict, it is your duty not to discuss this case and

16   not to remain in the presence of other people who might be

17   discussing the case.      This rule about not discussing the case

18   with others includes discussions even with members of your own

19   family and your friends.      If at any time during the course of

20   the trial any person attempts to talk to you or to communicate

21   with you about the case, either in or out of the courthouse,

22   please immediately report such an attempt to me through my

23   courtroom deputy, Ms. Dempsey.

24             So in this regard, let me explain to you that the

25   attorneys and the defendant in this case are not supposed to


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1    talk to you, the jurors, even to offer a friendly greeting.              So

2    if you happen to see one of these lawyers or one of their

3    assistants or the defendant in the hall or anywhere in the

4    courthouse and they should ignore you, please don't take

5    offense.    They're acting properly by doing that because they

6    really shouldn't be communicating with you in any way, verbally

7    or otherwise.

8               Just as you may not have any in-person communications

9    about this case, you shouldn't communicate about the case with

10   anyone by cellphone, through email, through BlackBerrys, if

11   anybody still has those, by iPhone, text messaging, Twitter,

12   YouTube, any blog, website, or any internet chat room, any

13   social networking sites—-this is some of why we asked you about

14   these things—-including Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube.

15   All of that is off limits for talking about this case while you

16   are sitting as a juror.      Similarly, you cannot use any of these

17   tools to post any information about the case on the internet,

18   or to do any research or make any investigation on your own

19   about any of the matters relating to this case, or even this

20   type of case, while you're sitting as jurors.            So that means,

21   for example, that you shouldn't consult reference works or

22   dictionaries; you shouldn't search the internet or websites,

23   any kind of blog, use any kind of electronic tool to obtain

24   information about this case or even this type of case, not

25   about the parties to the case, the lawyers in the case, anyone


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1    else involved in the case.       You must decide this case, as I

2    said repeatedly while we were selecting you as jurors, based

3    only on the evidence presented to you in this courtroom and my

4    instructions about the law.       It would be improper for you to

5    supplement that information on your own.

6              All right.      Finally, some jurors like to take notes

7    during the trial, especially if it's a long trial.             This won't

8    be a particularly long trial, but I do permit jurors—-and the

9    parties have signed off on this—-to take notes during the trial

10   should you wish to do so.       Not during opening statements, but

11   when you come tomorrow, Ms. Dempsey will give each of you a

12   notepad, and if you want to take notes during the course of the

13   trial, as I say, you may do so.         You're not obligated to do

14   that.   If you do take notes, please be sure that your taking of

15   notes doesn't interfere in any way with your listening to or

16   considering all of the evidence.

17             Also, if you do take notes, don't discuss them with

18   anyone during the trial, even during your deliberations.                 If

19   you take notes, they are to be used solely to assist you, and

20   your notes are not to substitute for your recollection of the

21   evidence in this case.       In addition, the fact that a particular

22   juror has taken a note entitles that juror's view to no greater

23   weight than the views of any other juror during deliberations.

24   And again, as I said, please don't show your notes to any other

25   juror during deliberations.


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1              If during the deliberations you have any doubt as to

2    what the testimony was, you'll be permitted to request that the

3    official transcript, which is being made of these proceedings

4    by our court reporter who is here with us right now over

5    here -- she will be making an official transcript throughout,

6    and you can request that testimony be read back to you.

7              Please don't take your notebooks with you during

8    breaks, and please don't take them home with you when you leave

9    each evening.    Leave them here at the courthouse, and pick them

10   up again when you return the next morning.

11             All right.      So bearing all of those preliminary

12   instructions in mind, we're now ready to start this trial, and

13   we'll begin with the government's opening statement.

14             MS. MURRAY:      Thank you, your Honor.

15             THE COURT:      All right.   Ms. Murray, you'll be

16   delivering?

17             MS. MURRAY:      Yes, your Honor.   May I just move the

18   podium in front of the jury?

19             THE COURT:      Yes, sure.   Do you want to help

20   Ms. Murray?    Just be careful of the wires, if there are any.

21             MS. MURRAY:      This is a case about lies, about greed,

22   and about brazen theft.       This man, Adedayo Ilori, the

23   defendant, used real people's identities to create fake IDs, to

24   open accounts in their names, and to defraud banks and the

25   federal government.       Using these stolen identities, the


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1    defendant submitted fraudulent loan applications for more than

2    $10 million, and he successfully stole more than $1 million in

3    government aid—-money that was intended to help small

4    businesses that were trying to stay afloat during the COVID-19

5    pandemic; money that was intended to help people keep their

6    jobs, to help keep roofs over their head.

7               And what did the defendant use this money for?          For

8    himself.    To rent an apartment, to buy luxury items, to invest

9    in stocks and cryptocurrency.       The defendant left dozens of

10   victims in his wake.      He cheated the federal government, he

11   cheated banks, and he cheated the individual victims—-real

12   people whose names and personal information he stole, whose

13   credit and reputation he damaged.        That is why we're here

14   today, because the defendant was in the business of stealing

15   identities and money.

16              Now I want to give you an overview of what I expect

17   the evidence at this trial will show.

18              In March 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic thrust our

19   country into uncertainty.      Essentially overnight, New York City

20   was locked down.     We were told to stay inside.       The streets

21   were deserted, businesses were shuttered, and there was no end

22   in sight.    You will learn that the Small Business

23   Administration, or SBA, a federal government agency, stepped in

24   and ran different programs intended to provide individuals and

25   small businesses in the United States with financial support


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1    during the pandemic.        You will hear that the SBA worked with

2    banks to process loan applications and to provide money to

3    struggling small businesses that needed help paying employees

4    and keeping the lights on.

5               You will hear how the defendant took advantage of

6    those pandemic relief programs.        You will hear that the

7    defendant submitted over a dozen fraudulent loan applications,

8    but he did not use his own name on those applications.

9    Instead, he stole the identities of other individuals and he

10   submitted the applications, applications filled with lies,

11   under their names.        He lied, claiming the money was needed to

12   support small businesses.        He lied, saying the money would be

13   used to pay the salaries of those businesses'

14   employees—-employees who didn't exist.

15              You will learn about how the defendant and his

16   co-conspirators meticulously tracked and maintained personal

17   information of these identity theft victims, how they kept

18   notebooks in which they wrote down details about their victims,

19   including names, addresses, phone numbers, and Social Security

20   numbers.    They even kept notes about specific victims, notes

21   indicating whether the victim's stolen information was good or

22   bad at particular banks.        You will hear how the defendant used

23   these stolen identities to set up email accounts and cellphone

24   accounts in victims' names, which he used for fraudulent

25   communications to open bank accounts and investment accounts in


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1    the victims' names, to impersonate the victims during meetings,

2    phone calls, and email communications.        The defendant used

3    these stolen identities so he could submit more fraudulent

4    applications, so he could steal more money.            And he used the

5    stolen identities to cover his tracks, to distance his own

6    identity from the fraud, to avoid getting caught.

7              And you'll learn that the defendant was being paid

8    handsomely.    Working alongside co-conspirators, the defendant

9    succeeded in stealing more than $1 million in pandemic relief

10   funds, and he attempted to obtain millions more.           The defendant

11   routed the stolen money through bank accounts that he and his

12   co-conspirators set up in individual victims' names.            He moved

13   the money around to hide the fact that it was dirty.            He lined

14   his own pockets with money intended to help desperate people

15   and businesses struggling in the heart of the pandemic.             How?

16   He drove a new Mercedes, he rented a luxury apartment, he

17   withdrew thousands of dollars in cash, and he made investments

18   for himself.    That is what I expect the evidence will show.

19             Now let me take a moment and tell you about the types

20   of evidence that the government will use to prove the

21   defendant's crimes.

22             You will see fraudulent documents in the names of

23   numerous identity theft victims.       Those documents include fake

24   IDs and fraudulent bank cards, fraudulent credit card and bank

25   account applications, falsified tax and bank records, and


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1    fraudulent apartment and car rental agreements.          Some of these

2    fake IDs have the defendant's or a co-conspirator's photograph

3    alongside the names and dates of birth of their victims.               Some

4    of these fraudulent bank cards were in the defendant's pocket

5    when he was arrested.      Blatant fraud.    You will see the

6    fraudulent loan applications for five pandemic relief loans

7    that the defendant actually received, loan applications

8    submitted under stolen identities for more than $1 million in

9    government and government-backed aid, money intended to assist

10   small businesses.

11             You will also see fraudulent loan applications for

12   several additional loans the defendant unsuccessfully applied

13   for, his attempts to obtain millions more.

14             You will see bank records for numerous bank accounts

15   that the defendant and his co-conspirators opened and

16   controlled in the names of identity theft victims, accounts

17   that received the more than $1 million in stolen money.

18             You will also see records showing that the money was

19   then laundered out of those accounts, including through large

20   cash withdrawals and transfers to other bank accounts or

21   investment accounts that the defendant and his co-conspirators

22   controlled, all in an effort to conceal the scheme, to hide the

23   fact that the money was dirty.

24             You're going to see emails and text messages in which

25   the defendant, in his own words, discussed the fraudulent


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1    scheme with his co-conspirators.       You'll see the defendant

2    using multiple cellphones and fraudulent email accounts in the

3    names of numerous victims to communicate with the SBA, banks,

4    and others.    You will see messages that were recovered from

5    many different devices, including two of the cellphones the

6    defendant had on him when he was arrested—-messages that detail

7    months of the fraud and identity theft scheme.

8              And you'll see the notebook that the defendant and his

9    co-conspirators used to track the identity theft victims'

10   personal information, to record the successful theft of those

11   identities.

12             And you're also going to hear the testimony of

13   witnesses.    You will hear from several of the victims whose

14   identities were stolen, innocent people whose personal

15   information the defendant and his co-conspirators used.             They

16   used the victims' identities to set up email accounts, to open

17   bank accounts and credit cards, to submit loan applications and

18   receive funds, to rent apartments and cars.            You will hear that

19   the theft and fraudulent use of these victims' identities

20   plagued the victims with problems, ranging from damaged credit

21   scores to being blacklisted by businesses.

22             You will also hear from representatives of the SBA,

23   the federal government agency that supplied the pandemic relief

24   money that the defendant stole.

25             You will hear from employees of a bank from which the


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1    defendant attempted to steal millions more in pandemic relief.

2              Finally, you will hear from law enforcement agents who

3    investigated the fraud scheme.       You will hear how the agents

4    learned about a single possible fraudulent loan and started to

5    pull the thread, how they dug into the information listed on

6    that loan application, how they traced the cellphone number

7    listed on that application, tracking the location of that

8    cellphone across New York City, how the agents did stakeouts,

9    conducted physical surveillance, and followed the money, how

10   they pieced together the electronic fingerprints the defendant

11   and his co-conspirators accidentally left behind.           This work

12   allowed them to see past the fake identities that were being

13   used and led them to the real fraudster behind the scheme, the

14   defendant.

15             Ladies and gentlemen, the evidence at this trial is

16   going to be presented to you in bits and pieces, and it won't

17   always come in in chronological order, so we ask that you pay

18   close attention as witnesses take the stand and as exhibits are

19   admitted.    What I've outlined this afternoon is just an

20   overview of the evidence you can expect to see and hear.

21             At the end of the trial, we'll have the opportunity to

22   speak with you again and to talk with you in more detail about

23   everything you've seen and heard.        Now between now and then,

24   I'd like to ask you to do three things—–first, pay close

25   attention to the evidence; second, follow the judge's


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1    instructions on the law; and third, use your common sense, the

2    same common sense you use every day in your lives as New

3    Yorkers.    When you do those three things, you will reach the

4    only verdict that is consistent with the law, the evidence, and

5    your common sense, that the defendant is guilty.

6               THE COURT:     All right.   Thank you, Ms. Murray.

7    Mr. Brill?

8               We'll now hear from Mr. Brill on behalf of the

9    defendant Mr. Ilori.

10              MR. BRILL:     Thank you, your Honor.

11              Good afternoon, everybody.

12              The government says that this is a case about lies; we

13   don't disagree.     The government says that this is a case about

14   greed; and again, we don't disagree.        What we do disagree with

15   is the government's use of the term—-you've heard it a couple

16   of times kind of stuck in there—-co-conspirators.           The

17   government believes, as they've said, that Mr. Ilori worked

18   with other people—-that's what "co-conspirators" means—-to

19   engage in this fraud.      Our position, which I think is going to

20   be fairly clear, is that this fraud, this identity theft, this

21   stealing of money, was perpetrated by somebody else, not a

22   co-conspirator with Mr. Ilori but just somebody that Mr. Ilori

23   knew and was friends with.

24              So when the government says this is a case about lies,

25   as I said, we agree, and this is a case about greed, as I said,


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1    we agree, but this is not a case about Mr. Ilori's lies or

2    Mr. Ilori's greed.        This is perhaps a case about Mr. Ilori's

3    gullibility, and it certainly is a case about the guilt of

4    another individual, Chris Recamier, whose face and name you

5    will hear throughout the days of this trial over and over and

6    over again.    It's Mr. Recamier who was on bank surveillance

7    photo and bank surveillance video going and opening up bank

8    accounts.    It's Mr. Recamier, when he has to open up a

9    brokerage account or a Robinhood account, who takes a picture,

10   a selfie of his own face as the person claiming to be one of

11   the identity theft victims or multiple identity theft victims.

12   And our hearts go out to these victims.         Just, they're not

13   Mr. Ilori's victims; they're Mr. Recamier's victims.

14             This is a case, aside from the lies and the greed,

15   that in our mind is a case of guilt by association.            The fact

16   that Mr. Ilori was friends with Mr. Recamier, the fact that

17   Mr. Ilori spent time with Mr. Recamier, the government has

18   taken a leap to decide that not only is Mr. Ilori a person who

19   was -- happened to be present and friendly with the actual

20   perpetrator of these crimes but actually engaged in these

21   crimes with Mr. Recamier.        The government was not satisfied

22   simply that Mr. Recamier committed these crimes but they also

23   accuse Mr. Ilori of being part of it.

24             So the government, for example, says that Mr. Ilori

25   rented an apartment.        Well, Mr. Recamier actually lived in that


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1    apartment.    Mr. Recamier was the reason that the government

2    actually found out a lot about what was going on and what he

3    was doing because Mr. Recamier had a drug problem and

4    Mr. Recamier OD'd in the apartment.         And the water was running

5    in the apartment, and the water was dripping down into the

6    apartment below.     So the building management comes up, they

7    knock on the door.        They kind of, you know, with the security

8    chain, they can peek in the door and they see Mr. Recamier like

9    with his head in the sink.        So they knocked on the door.          The

10   police come, they go into the apartment, they find all these

11   fake IDs.    That's one of the first clues that maybe he's up to

12   something.    Mr. Ilori wasn't there.       Mr. Recamier rented the

13   car, the Mercedes -- or purchased the Mercedes.            I mean, he

14   didn't purchase it with his own name; he purchased it in the

15   name of one of these identity theft victims.            But over and over

16   again, the things that the government is telling you and just

17   told you in the opening statement were done by Mr. Ilori were

18   actually done by Mr. Recamier.

19             So the government's theory perhaps -- maybe this is

20   what they will try to intimate -- is that Mr. Ilori was somehow

21   the power behind the throne.        I don't know how they're going to

22   get there.    But ultimately, the evidence in this case will show

23   Chris Recamier, Chris Recamier, Chris Recamier, doing literally

24   everything that the government is alleging against Mr. Ilori.

25             And so that's the issue here.        The issue here is not


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1    that this crime didn't occur, over and over again, because it

2    did occur over and over again.       The issue is not that these

3    poor people had their identities stolen, and their lives were

4    thrown into chaos, because that's what happened, and the

5    government will, as part of its evidence, put some of those

6    people up on the stand.      A, because it's proper, you know, the

7    government is going to show you the people whose identities

8    were stolen; but of course it's also to show you the emotional

9    gravitas of what these people went through.            The thing to keep

10   in mind is that it wasn't Mr. Ilori who put those people

11   through those things; it's somebody else.         And not some random

12   person, some pie-in-the-sky person, some person that we

13   imagined; there's an actual physical person we know about who

14   did all of it.    And you will see much evidence, lots of

15   evidence—-not to beat a dead horse here—-of that person having

16   done this, over and over and over again.

17             So again, it's our position, and we believe the

18   evidence will show quite clearly, that Mr. Ilori may have been

19   friends with Mr. Recamier, Mr. Ilori may have hung out with

20   Mr. Recamier, but Mr. Ilori didn't live in the apartment,

21   Mr. Ilori didn't control the vehicles.        Mr. Ilori was just a

22   victim of circumstance, much the same way that these identity

23   theft victims were.

24             Now the government certainly will say, well, there's a

25   piece of breadcrumb here that proves Mr. Ilori knew what was


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1    going on, or there's a breadcrumb here that proves Mr. Ilori

2    knew what was going on, but literally the government is taking

3    little breadcrumbs and trying to take you down a path, but the

4    breadcrumbs do not lead down the path that the government is

5    going to try to take you down.       The government is certainly

6    allowed to use evidence that is not direct evidence, right?            I

7    mean, you have a murder case, you know, they don't always have

8    a video of the person shooting the other person, right?

9    There's circumstantial evidence as well.         I'm not saying that

10   that's not proper, but there is circumstantial evidence and

11   there is conjecture; there is circumstantial evidence and there

12   is guessing; there is circumstantial evidence and there's

13   simply just casting aspersions.

14              And it's your job to hold the government to its proof.

15   And what that means in our system, and in our court system, is

16   that the government must prove its case to you by a very, very

17   high burden.    They must prove its case to you beyond a

18   reasonable doubt.     So the government essentially must eliminate

19   all reasonable doubt about the defendant's guilt before you can

20   convict.    The government will not be able to prove its case to

21   you beyond a reasonable doubt.       They will give you little bits

22   and pieces and try to get you to put it together into a

23   coherent picture.     To use a different analogy, they'll give you

24   lots of pieces of the puzzle but it won't make a full puzzle.

25   And so that's the problem here.       Because they've got the puzzle


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1    put together for Mr. Recamier, and now they want to put the

2    puzzle together for Mr. Ilori, and they will not be able to do

3    that, because he didn't do it.

4               So I'm going to ask you, as the government,

5    Ms. Murray, just asked you when she had that list of three

6    things she wanted you to do, I'm just going to ask you to do

7    one thing, and that is to listen to the evidence and to use

8    your own independent judgment, not what the government tells

9    you or what the witnesses, especially the government agents,

10   ask you to believe, but to use your own independent judgment

11   and say:    Is the government convincing me to the point that I

12   need to convict a person of a serious crime?             And I'm going to

13   suggest to you that the government will not be able to do that,

14   they will not be able to put the picture together, and you will

15   ultimately have to find Mr. Ilori not guilty.

16              Thank you.

17              THE COURT:     All right.    Thank you very much,

18   Mr. Brill.

19              So, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to at this stage

20   adjourn for the day.      The next step in the process is for the

21   government to begin presenting its case by calling witnesses.

22   We'll do that starting first thing tomorrow morning.             So I

23   would ask you all to be back ready to take your seats and begin

24   the trial at 9:30 tomorrow morning.         As I said, we'll have

25   refreshments for you in the jury room starting at about 8:30,


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1    so anybody who's able to and wishes to arrive early, you can

2    certainly do that, but we need to start the trial at 9:30, so

3    that we keep things moving and we can get you all through this

4    trial on the timetable that I told you I'm going to endeavor to

5    achieve.

6               MR. BRILL:     Your Honor, I'm sorry.          May we approach

7    for one second.     I apologize.

8               THE COURT:     Sure.

9               MR. BRILL:     Thank you.

10              THE COURT:     Excuse us for one moment.

11              (At the sidebar)

12              MR. BRILL:     Your Honor, I believe our second alternate

13   is the one who has the doctor's appointment tomorrow.

14              THE COURT:     Let me check.    Okay.    And what time, she

15   said 8:30?

16              MR. BRILL:     Yes.

17              THE COURT:     Let's ask her to come up here.

18              MS. MURRAY:     No. 14.

19              THE COURT:     Can I ask Juror No. 14 if you could join

20   us for a minute.

21              (Juror No. 14 present at sidebar)

22              THE COURT:     Did you tell us that you have an

23   appointment tomorrow morning?

24              JUROR:   Yes.    8:30.

25              THE COURT:     Okay.   Mr. Brill remembered and reminded


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1    me.   Both counsel reminded me.          So you think it will be about

2    how long?

3              JUROR:    Approximately an hour.         It's over on 72nd

4    Street, York Avenue.

5              THE COURT:      Oh, okay.      So you think you can get here

6    by 10?

7              JUROR:    Yes.

8              THE COURT:      Okay.   So I'm going to tell everybody to

9    come at 10 instead of 9:30, okay?           If you run into a problem,

10   Ms. Dempsey will take you all in the back and she'll give you

11   her contact information, and you can be in touch with her.

12             Thank you, Mr. Brill.

13             (In open court)

14             THE COURT:      All right.      Ladies and gentlemen, I

15   forgot, there was something we had discussed with one of your

16   fellow jurors in terms of a conflict for very early tomorrow

17   morning, so I don't want to drag you all here on the chance

18   that she might not be able to be here for a 9:30 start, so why

19   don't we say tomorrow morning we'll plan on 10:00.               That's a

20   little bit out of the ordinary, but I just don't want to waste

21   all of your time by having you here if we're potentially not

22   going to be ready to go.       But we will have refreshments

23   available if anybody wants to come early.            But please be here

24   and ready to go by 10:00 tomorrow morning, all right?

25             Now the final thing I just want to remind you, please


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1    do not discuss the case, not with each other, not with your

2    families.    You can tell them you're serving on a jury, but not

3    what kind of case, not what the case is about.            Don't do any

4    research about the case, all right?

5              You don't yet have your notebooks, but I'm going to

6    tell you each day to please just leave your notebooks on your

7    chairs or in the jury room when you leave for the day.

8              And with that, then, we'll adjourn for the day.                I

9    thank you very much, and I'll see everybody tomorrow morning.

10   Ms. Dempsey will meet you in the back in the jury room, okay?

11   Thank you all very much.

12             Please rise for the jury.

13             (Jury not present)

14             THE COURT:      You can be seated, everyone.

15             Is there anything we should discuss?

16             MS. MURRAY:      Nothing from the government, your Honor.

17             MR. BRILL:      What time would you like us here?

18             THE COURT:      All right.    Well, that's why I'm asking if

19   there's anything we need to discuss.         If there isn't, then we

20   don't need too much time.

21             Let me just ask, has the government given notice to

22   any victims entitled to notice?

23             MS. MURRAY:      Yes, we've notified all of the victims of

24   the scheduling of the trial.       Everyone has been made aware.

25             THE COURT:      Okay.   All right.   Then who is the first


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1    witness tomorrow?

2               MS. MURRAY:     We will be calling Gerald Hanson, and we

3    did provide -- oh, actually, your Honor, we are going to begin

4    by reading several stipulations into the record --

5               THE COURT:     Okay.

6               MS. MURRAY:     -- which will be very brief, and then

7    we'll call Gerald Hanson, and we did provide a list in order of

8    the government's anticipated witnesses to Mr. Brill this

9    morning.

10              THE COURT:     Okay.   And do you have a copy of that that

11   you can make available to me?

12              MS. MURRAY:     I have one downstairs.        I can bring it

13   right back up in a few minutes.

14              THE COURT:     Unless you remember; you can just tell it

15   to me.

16              MS. MURRAY:     Gerald Hanson.

17              THE COURT:     And how long, roughly?

18              MS. MURRAY:     Approximately 15 minutes or so.

19              THE COURT:     Oh, not very long at all.

20              MS. MURRAY:     No.    Then Jonathan Herttua,

21   H-E-R-T-T-U-A; again, maybe 20 or so minutes.

22              John Piarulli, P-I-A-R-U-L-L-I, 20 to 30 minutes, I

23   would say.

24              THE COURT:     Okay.

25              MS. MURRAY:     Kathleen Littwin, L-I-T-T-W-I-N, around


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1    30 minutes.    And then --

2              THE COURT:      I'm not going to hold you to exactly.          I'm

3    just trying to get a sense.

4              MS. MURRAY:      Of course.    Of course.      And then our new

5    witness, Joshua Sarver, again, maybe 20 to 30 minutes.

6              Oh, excuse me, your Honor.        After Kathleen Littwin, we

7    have Kandace Zelaya, again, 30 minutes or so; and then

8    Mr. Sarver.    And then just to close out what I expect to be

9    tomorrow is the case agent, Harry Lidsky, who will be two to

10   three hours.

11             THE COURT:      Okay.    And it occurred to me that's why he

12   was not here during voir dire?

13             MS. MURRAY:     So we spoke with Mr. Brill.         Mr. -- or

14   Special Agent Lidsky was in the courtroom during voir dire.

15             THE COURT:      Oh, he was.

16             MS. MURRAY:      Yeah.    We discussed the case law with

17   Mr. Brill, and he agrees the case agent is able to be present

18   at the trial before testifying.

19             THE COURT:      But somebody wasn't here?

20             MS. MURRAY:      Mr. Kerwin John was not here and the

21   other law enforcement agent we're going to be calling was not

22   here, for that reason.

23             THE COURT:      All right.    I appreciate it.

24             So if there's nothing that we need to talk about

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1    between 9:30 and 9:45, ready to start at 10:00.

2              MR. BRILL:      Okay.

3              THE COURT:      If anything occurs to anybody that we do

4    need to talk about, you can either submit a letter on the

5    docket with a courtesy copy to chambers by email or be in touch

6    with Ms. Dempsey.

7              All right.      Thank you very much then.        Thank you to

8    our court reporter.       And we'll stand adjourned then.        Thank

9    you.   Have a good evening, everyone.

10             MS. MURRAY:      Thank you, your Honor.        You too.

11             (Adjourned to October 26, 2022, at 10:00 a.m.)

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