United States’ Objections and Counter-Designations to Defendants’ Deposition Designations — United States v. Iseman & Associates, LLC et al., No. 1:25-cv-00450-MSN-LRV (Dkt. 57, E.D. Va.)
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In this October 14, 2025 filing in the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division (No. 1:25-cv-00450-MSN-LRV, Document 57), the United States, through Assistant United States Attorney John E. Beerbower for United States Attorney Lindsey Halligan, objects and counter-designates to the defendants' October 3, 2025 deposition designations (ECF No. 56) in its case against Iseman & Associates, LLC and others. The United States objects to all designations for Lisa Blackmore, arguing that Blackmore resides in Maryland, is "available" under the Rules and must be called to testify at trial. It recognizes that Anna Rosing resides in New York, more than 100 miles from the place of trial, but reserves the right to object if Rosing appears. A table lists line-by-line objections, such as hearsay, foundation and speculation, and counter-designations.
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Case 1:25-cv-00450-MSN-LRV Document 57 Filed 10/14/25 Page 1 of 11 PageID# 457
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF VIRGINIA
Alexandria Division
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
v. No.: 1:25-cv-00450-MSN-LRV
ISEMAN & ASSOCIATES, LLC, et al.
Defendants.
UNITED STATES’ OBJECTIONS AND COUNTER-DESIGNATIONS TO
DEFENDANTS’ DEPOSITION DESIGNATIONS
Pursuant to Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(a)(3) and Local Civil Rule 30, the United States submits its
objections and counter-designations to Defendant’s deposition designations, dated October 3,
2025 (ECF No. 56). The United States reserves the right to amend and/or supplement its
deposition objections and counter-designations, including with respect to the Court’s rulings on
any motions in limine or other pre-trial rulings. The United States also reserves the right to
introduce or use any of Defendants’ designations at trial, including as counter-designations, to
the extent Defendants’ do not do so. The United States further incorporates by reference herein,
its deposition designations filed on October 3, 2025 (ECF No. 55).
I. The United States Objects to Any Designations for Lisa Blackmore
The United States objects to all designations for Lisa Blackmore. Deposition testimony of
non-parties may only be used at trial in situations where the witness is “unavailable,” as defined
in Fed. R. Civ. P. 32(a)(4) and/or Fed. R. Evid. 804(a). Ms. Blackmore resides in Maryland and
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is “available” under the Rules. Accordingly, her deposition is entirely inadmissible hearsay and,
if Defendants wish to introduce her testimony, she must be called to testify at trial. While the
United States makes specific objections and counter-designations to Ms. Blackmore’s testimony,
it does so in the alternative and without waiving its objection above.
The United States recognizes that, unlike Ms. Blackmore, Anna Rosing presently resides
in New York, i.e., more than 100 miles from the place of trial. See Fed. R. Civ. P. 32(a)(4)(B);
Fed. R. Evid. 804(a)(5)(A). However, the United States reserves the right to object to the use of
Ms. Rosing’s deposition testimony if Ms. Rosing appears at the trial. See Siquerios v. General
Motors LLC, 2022 WL 3974752, at *20 (N.D. Cal. Aug. 31, 2022) (deposition testimony
inadmissible for witness who resides outside the subpoena power of the court but is present for
trial because “the Court cannot countenance how a witness who is present at the courthouse and
willing to testify could be ‘unavailable’ under Rule 804.”).
II. Specific Objections and Counter-Designations
Witness (Date) Defendant’s Objections Counter-Designations
Designations
Blackmore (9.9.25) 8:24-9:3 9:4-9:10
Blackmore (9.9.25) 9:11-12
Blackmore (9.9.25) 9:19-25
Blackmore (9.9.25) 10:10-14
Blackmore (9.9.25) 11:13-17 11:21-12:7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 12:11-25
Blackmore (9.9.25) 13:4-12 13:1-3
Blackmore (9.9.25) 13:18-24 14:2-9
Blackmore (9.9.25) 14:10-12
Blackmore (9.9.25) 15:10-17 15:6-9
Blackmore (9.9.25) 15:25-16:4
Blackmore (9.9.25) 16:17-17:18
Blackmore (9.9.25) 18:18-19:4
Blackmore (9.9.25) 20:8-14
Blackmore (9.9.25) 20:16-21:7
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Blackmore (9.9.25) 21:11-22:15
Blackmore (9.9.25) 22:23-23:5
Blackmore (9.9.25) 25:3-7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 25:14-18 25:19-22
Blackmore (9.9.25) 25:23-26:3 26:12-24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 27:12-15 27:16-22
Blackmore (9.9.25) 28:1-7 28:8-20
Blackmore (9.9.25) 28:21-29:3
Blackmore (9.9.25) 29:10-12
Blackmore (9.9.25) 30:3-31:24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 32:1-38:10
Blackmore (9.9.25) 38:15-18
Blackmore (9.9.25) 38:25-41:11
Blackmore (9.9.25) 41:16-44:25
Blackmore (9.9.25) 45:5-46:22
Blackmore (9.9.25) 47:2-48:10
Blackmore (9.9.25) 48:20-61:2
Blackmore (9.9.25) 61:5-62:7 62:7-8
Blackmore (9.9.25) 62:22-64:24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 65:01
Blackmore (9.9.25) 65:4-68:16
Blackmore (9.9.25) 68:18
Blackmore (9.9.25) 68:20-23
Blackmore (9.9.25) 69:2-70:13
Blackmore (9.9.25) 70:15-72:10 72:14-25
Blackmore (9.9.25) 73:1-13
Blackmore (9.9.25) 73:19-24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 74:22-76:22 77:24-78:2
Blackmore (9.9.25) 78:18-24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 79:17-80:6
Blackmore (9.9.25) 80:18-81:14
Blackmore (9.9.25) 83:9-84:11
Blackmore (9.9.25) 84:17-85:7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 86:21-87:19
Blackmore (9.9.25) 88:1-11 88:14-15
Blackmore (9.9.25) 88:13 Attorney Objection
Blackmore (9.9.25) 88:17-89:21
Blackmore (9.9.25) 90:21-24 91:1-2
Blackmore (9.9.25) 91:3-21
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Blackmore (9.9.25) 92:6-16
Blackmore (9.9.25) 93:18-22
Blackmore (9.9.25) 94:17-95:5
Blackmore (9.9.25) 95:15-96:8
Blackmore (9.9.25) 96:15-99:18
Blackmore (9.9.25) 100:9-25
Blackmore (9.9.25) 101:23-103:9
Blackmore (9.9.25) 103:13-18
Blackmore (9.9.25) 104:14-105:3 Hearsay; Relevance
Blackmore (9.9.25) 105:7-106:11 Hearsay; Foundation;
Lack of personal
knowledge
Blackmore (9.9.25) 106:17-108:11
Blackmore (9.9.25) 108:15-110:3
Blackmore (9.9.25) 110:11-16
Blackmore (9.9.25) 110:21-111:24 Hearsay
Blackmore (9.9.25) 112:3-6
Blackmore (9.9.25) 112:9-113:7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 113:9-114:15
Blackmore (9.9.25) 114:20-23
Blackmore (9.9.25) 115:1-20 As to 115:16-20:
Speculation;
Foundation
Blackmore (9.9.25) 115:22-23 Speculation;
Foundation
Blackmore (9.9.25) 116:1-23
Blackmore (9.9.25) 117:25-118:6
Blackmore (9.9.25) 118:23-119:16
Blackmore (9.9.25) 120:6-122:7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 122:15-16 Speculation;
Foundation
Blackmore (9.9.25) 122:18-20 Speculation;
Foundation
Blackmore (9.9.25) 122:22-24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 123:5-7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 124:8-126:2
Blackmore (9.9.25) 126:6-24
Blackmore (9.9.25) 127:17-129:25 Hearsay; Foundation;
Lack of personal
knowledge
Blackmore (9.9.25) 130:02 Speculation;
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Foundation
Blackmore (9.9.25) 130:4-7
Blackmore (9.9.25) 130:11-16 Speculation;
Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Blackmore (9.9.25) 130:18-25 131:7-17
Blackmore (9.9.25) 133:1-9 Speculation;
Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Blackmore (9.9.25) 133:16-18
Blackmore (9.9.25) 133:21-134:4 Speculation;
Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Blackmore (9.9.25) 134:13-135:1
Rosing (9.10.25) 7:14-16
Rosing (9.10.25) 8:8-14
Rosing (9.10.25) 9:12-17
Rosing (9.10.25) 10:11-16
Rosing (9.10.25) 11:3-8
Rosing (9.10.25) 11:23-12:16
Rosing (9.10.25) 12:21-13:5
Rosing (9.10.25) 14:8-18
Rosing (9.10.25) 15:15-17
Rosing (9.10.25) 15:20-25
Rosing (9.10.25) 17:2-9 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.10.25) 17:21-18:4
Rosing (9.10.25) 19:12-20:2 20:3-5
Rosing (9.10.25) 20:9-25
Rosing (9.10.25) 21:17-24:11
Rosing (9.10.25) 24:20-24:22
Rosing (9.10.25) 25:21-23 26:2-5
Rosing (9.10.25) 27:21-22
Rosing (9.10.25) 28:1-3
Rosing (9.10.25) 28:6-9
Rosing (9.10.25) 28:14-17
Rosing (9.10.25) 29:2-24
Rosing (9.10.25) 30:7-8
Rosing (9.10.25) 30:10-11
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Rosing (9.10.25) 31:5-8 30:15-24
Rosing (9.10.25) 32:11 Question without
Answer
Rosing (9.10.25) 32:20-33:5
Rosing (9.10.25) 33:13-34:1 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.10.25) 35:12-16
Rosing (9.10.25) 36:4-14
Rosing (9.10.25) 36:22-37:6
Rosing (9.10.25) 38:8-9
Rosing (9.10.25) 38:19-25
Rosing (9.10.25) 39:5-9
Rosing (9.10.25) 39:24 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.10.25) 40:21-24
Rosing (9.10.25) 41:14-43:1 43:2-6
Rosing (9.10.25) 43:7-12
Rosing (9.10.25) 44:14-45:2
Rosing (9.10.25) 45:21-46:3
Rosing (9.10.25) 46:9-11
Rosing (9.10.25) 46:17-47:8 Foundation; Lack of 47:10-11
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.10.25) 47:12-48:13
Rosing (9.10.25) 48:17-49:6
Rosing (9.10.25) 49:8-19
Rosing (9.10.25) 49:23-51:6 51:7-8
Rosing (9.10.25) 51:9-12
Rosing (9.10.25) 51:14-17
Rosing (9.10.25) 52:7-12 Relevance
Rosing (9.10.25) 53:3-11
Rosing (9.10.25) 53:21-54:7
Rosing (9.11.25) 6:3-24
Rosing (9.11.25) 7:4-13
Rosing (9.11.25) 8:3-5
Rosing (9.11.25) 8:10-17
Rosing (9.11.25) 9:12-19
Rosing (9.11.25) 11:18-12-4
Rosing (9.11.25) 12:10-21 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
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Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 13:8-20
Rosing (9.11.25) 14:4-15
Rosing (9.11.25) 15:2-4
Rosing (9.11.25) 15:10-21
Rosing (9.11.25) 16:14-21
Rosing (9.11.25) 17:6-13 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 18:6-19:6 As to 18:6-8:
Foundation; Assumes
facts not in evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 22:15-24:10
Rosing (9.11.25) 26:4-11 Foundation; Assumes
facts not in evidence;
Impermissible
hypothetical
Rosing (9.11.25) 27:23-28:11
Rosing (9.11.25) 28:14-29:13 Hearsay; Relevance
Rosing (9.11.25) 29:23-32:2
Rosing (9.11.25) 32:11-24
Rosing (9.11.25) 33:5-9
Rosing (9.11.25) 33:16-25
Rosing (9.11.25) 36:9-11 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 36:13 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 37:12-19 Foundation;
Speculation
Rosing (9.11.25) 38:4-12 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 38:25-39:16 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 43:6-44:10 Foundation; Assumes
facts not in evidence;
Lack of personal
knowledge;
Impermissible
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hypothetical
Rosing (9.11.25) 44:21-45:14 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 46:22-47:7 Hearsay; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 48:1-5 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 48:7-49:22 Hearsay
Rosing (9.11.25) 50:8-52:12 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 52:20-53:1 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 53:3-6 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 53:9-12 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 53:14-15 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 53:17-20 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
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evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 53:22 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 53:24-54:2 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence; call for legal
conclusion
Rosing (9.11.25) 54:4-7 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 54:9-11 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 54:14-17 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 60:6-21 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 62:11-14 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 63:18-21 Foundation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 64:4-14 64:16-25
Rosing (9.11.25) 65:1-23 65:1-15: Hearsay
65:19-23: Speculation
Rosing (9.11.25) 65:25 Speculation
Rosing (9.11.25) 66:10-23
Rosing (9.11.25) 68:2-5
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466
Rosing (9.11.25) 68:22-70:7 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 71:1-2 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 71:4 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 71:16-22 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 71:24-72:3 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 72:5 Foundation;
Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 72:7-8
Rosing (9.11.25) 72:10-73:1
Rosing (9.11.25) 73:3-11 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 73:13 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 73:15 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge;
Assumes facts not in
evidence
Rosing (9.11.25) 73:17-19
Rosing (9.11.25) 73:21-74:25 Foundation; lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 75:10-17
Rosing (9.11.25) 76:1-10 Speculation
Rosing (9.11.25) 76:12 Speculation
Rosing (9.11.25) 76:14-17 Speculation
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467
Rosing (9.11.25) 77:11-12 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 77:14-16 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 77:18-20 Speculation; Lack of
personal knowledge
Rosing (9.11.25) 81:4-7
Rosing (9.11.25) 81:9-10
Rosing (9.11.25) 84:13-85:3
Rosing (9.11.25) 85:5
Rosing (9.11.25) 86:14-23
Dated: October 14, 2025 Respectfully submitted,
LINDSEY HALLIGAN
UNITED STATES ATTORNEY
By: __/s/ John E. Beerbower___________
JOHN E. BEERBOWER
Assistant United States Attorney
United States Attorney’s Office
Counsel for the United States
2100 Jamieson Avenue
Alexandria, VA 22314
Tel: 703.299.3841
Fax: 703.299.3898
john.beerbower@usdoj.gov
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