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Transcript of Criminal Cause for Arraignment Before the Honorable James R. Cho United States Magistrate Judge — No. 1:24-cr-00369 (Dkt. 23, E.D.N.Y.)

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Transcript of a criminal cause for arraignment in United States v. Darnell Jones, 24-CR-369 (DLI), in the Eastern District of New York, held in Brooklyn on October 11, 2024 before Magistrate Judge James R. Cho and filed as Document 23 on 04/04/25. Emily Dean appeared for the government for United States Attorney Breon Peace, and the Court appointed Richard Palma for the defendant after reviewing a financial affidavit. The Court advised the defendant of his right to remain silent and his right to counsel, and recited the indictment: Count 1, wire fraud conspiracy; Count 2, aggravated identity theft; Count 3, a felon in possession of firearms and ammunition; plus forfeiture allegations. The defendant waived the public reading and pleaded not guilty, and the Court approved an order of excludable delay.

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Case 1:24-cr-00369-DLI   Document 23   Filed 04/04/25   Page 1 of 16 PageID #: 70



                     UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                     EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

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         UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,    :
                                      :            24-CR-369 (DLI)
                  v.                  :
                                      :            October 11, 2024
         DARNELL JONES,               :
                                      :            Brooklyn, New York
                        Defendant.    :
                                      :
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                 TRANSCRIPT OF CRIMINAL CAUSE FOR ARRAIGNMENT
                       BEFORE THE HONORABLE JAMES R. CHO
                         UNITED STATES MAGISTRATE JUDGE

         APPEARANCES:

         For the Government:               BREON PEACE, ESQ.
                                           U.S. ATTORNEY
                                           BY: EMILY DEAN, ESQ.
                                           ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY
                                           271 Cadman Plaza East
                                           Brooklyn, New York 11201


         For the Defendant:                RICHARD PALMA, ESQ.
                                           225 Broadway, Suite 715
                                           New York City, NY 10007




         Court Transcriber:                ARIA SERVICES, INC.
                                           c/o Elizabeth Barron
                                           274 Hovey Road
                                           Milo, ME 04463
                                           Aria@leinen.net



         Proceedings recorded by electronic sound recording,
         transcript produced by transcription service
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  1                  THE CLERK:        Criminal cause for arraignment

  2   on the indictment, 24-CR-369, United States v. Darnell

  3   Jones.

  4                  Counsel, starting with the government,

  5   please state your appearances for the record.

  6                  MS. DEAN:     Good afternoon, your Honor.

  7   Emily Dean for the government.

  8                  MR. PALMA:        Good afternoon.         For Mr. Darnell

  9   Jones, Richard Palma.

 10                  THE COURT:        All right, good afternoon,

 11   everyone.

12                   To confirm, are you Darnell Jones?

13                   THE DEFENDANT:        Yes.

 14                  THE COURT:        I’m Judge Cho.        How are you

15    doing?

16                   THE DEFENDANT:        I’m doing all right.

 17                  THE COURT:        All right.        Let me explain to

 18   you what’s going to happen today, okay?                   The purpose of

 19   this proceeding is to make sure you understand your

 20   rights, what you’ve been charged with, and to determine

21    whether you should be released on bail or held in jail.

 22                  You have the right to remain silent.                  You’re

 23   not required to make any statement.                  If you’ve made a

 24   statement, you need not say anything further.                      If you

 25   start to make a statement in the future, you can stop
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  1   at any time.       Keep in mind that any statement you make

  2   may be used against you.

  3                  Do you understand that?

  4                  THE DEFENDANT:        Yes.

  5                  THE COURT:        You also have the right to an

  6   attorney.      If you can’t afford one, the Court will

  7   appoint one for you, all right?               I have in front of me

  8   a financial affidavit.            Based on the information set

  9   forth in here, I will go ahead and appoint counsel for

10    you, okay?

11                   THE DEFENDANT:        Okay.

 12                  THE COURT:        Mr. Palma, do you accept that

13    appointment?

 14                  MR. PALMA:        Of course I do, and thank you

15    very much.

 16                  THE COURT:        All right.        So I’ll go ahead and

 17   appoint Mr. Palma to represent you in this matter, Mr.

18    Jones.

19                   THE DEFENDANT:        Yes.

 20                  THE COURT:        You have been charged by a grand

 21   jury with the following charges set forth in an

 22   indictment:        Count 1, wire fraud conspiracy; Count 2,

 23   aggravated identity theft; Count 3, a felon in

 24   possession of firearms and ammunition; and there are

 25   forfeiture allegations as well.
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  1                  Mr. Jones, have you received a copy of this

  2   indictment or has your attorney shared it with you?

  3                  THE DEFENDANT:        Yes.

  4                  THE COURT:        All right.        Have you had a

  5   chance to discuss these charges with your lawyer?

  6                  THE DEFENDANT:        Yes.

  7                  THE COURT:        Do you understand the basic

  8   nature of the charges against you?

  9                  THE DEFENDANT:        Yes.

 10                  THE COURT:        All right, Mr. Palma, at this

 11   time, does your client want the charges read out loud

12    or does he waive reading?

 13                  MR. PALMA:        He’ll waive the public reading,

14    your Honor.

 15                  THE COURT:        Mr. Jones, at this time, how do

16    you plead to the charges, guilty or not guilty?

17                   THE DEFENDANT:        Not guilty.

 18                  THE COURT:        All right.        I assume we don’t

19    need consular notification in this case, correct?

20                   MS. DEAN:     I’m sorry, what notification?

 21                  THE COURT:        We don’t need consular

22    notification in this case, correct?

23                   MS. DEAN:     No, your Honor.

 24                  THE COURT:        Let me give the government some

 25   warnings.      You can remain seated during this
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  1   conference.        Pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal

  2   Procedure 5(f), I remind the government of its

  3   obligation under Brady v. Maryland and its progeny to

  4   disclose to the defense all information known to the

  5   government, whether admissible or not, that is

  6   favorable to the defendant and material either to guilt

  7   or to punishment.

  8                  The government must make good-faith efforts

  9   to disclose such information to the defense as soon as

 10   reasonably possible.         I will be entering an order that

 11   more fully describes this obligation and the possible

 12   consequences of failing to meet it, and I direct the

13    government to review and comply with that order.

 14                  Does the government confirm that it

15    understands its obligations and will fulfil them?

 16                  MS. DEAN:     I understand and I will comply,

17    your Honor.

 18                  THE COURT:        All right.        Is there a bail

19    application today, Mr. Palma?

20                   MR. PALMA:        No, your Honor.

 21                  THE COURT:        All right.        Ms. Dean, are you

22    seeking detention?

23                   MS. DEAN:     Yes, your Honor.

 24                  THE COURT:        What’s the basis for the

25    request?
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  1                  MS. DEAN:     The government is seeking

  2   detention under 18 USC 3142(f)(1)(A) and also (f)(2)(A)

  3   related to the fact that there are no condition, nor

  4   combination of conditions that could secure this

  5   defendant’s return to court and also protect the

  6   community successfully from this defendant’s criminal

  7   activity.      Your Honor, I’ll lay the foundation for that

  8   based on the case and what we know about the defendant.

  9                  THE COURT:        Go ahead.

 10                  MS. DEAN:     Okay.      Just for some background

 11   on the defendant, your Honor, the defendant is a member

 12   of the Brooklyn-based 90 Gang, which is a violent

 13   street gang that operates out of East New York and is

 14   concentrated around the Pink Houses.                  This gang has

 15   committed murders, commits shootings, commits large-

 16   scale financial fraud, in which this defendant is

 17   deeply involved and is charged with that fraud in this

 18   indictment.

 19                  That fraud amounts to over a million

 20   dollars, your Honor, that the evidence shows in this

 21   case, and the defendant -- his conspiracy to commit

 22   wire fraud has victimized hundreds of people through

 23   unemployment fraud, Covid-related unemployment fraud,

 24   and other types of related fraud.                  The defendant

 25   commits this fraud with other gang members associated
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  1   with the 90 Gang and with other people.

  2                  Also, the defendant in this indictment is

  3   charged with weapons possession.               This relates to two

  4   weapons specifically that he kept in a home shared with

  5   another 90 Gang member.           These weapons both had laser-

  6   beam sights on them that are used to make sure to hit a

  7   target most accurately, and these weapons were used and

  8   shared amongst gang members.

  9                  Now, I’ll start with the risk of flight in

 10   this case.         Your Honor, you know a little now about the

11    underlying evidence of the defendant’s current charges.

 12   He’s facing 30 years on Count 1 as it is a Cares Act-

13    related crime under the wire fraud conspiracy charge.

 14   He’s facing a mandatory minimum of 2 years on Count 2,

 15   and he absconded from parole in April of 2021.                     There

 16   was a parole warrant issued for him on April 12 th of

 17   2021, and this gets us into his prior criminal history

 18   a little bit because he has a prior conviction for

 19   criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree,

 20   which is a misdemeanor.           But he was on parole for a

 21   prior conviction for attempted assault in the first

 22   degree.     That was for a gang-related shooting he

 23   committed when he shot a victim in the leg, breaking

24    his leg.

 25                  Now, while he was on parole in April -- I
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  1   think it was April 5 th specifically -- he did not

  2   respond to his parole officer.             He did not -- he did

  3   not attend an appointment with his parole officer, nor

  4   did he answer the phone.           After that, his parole

  5   officer was unable to locate him for years.                   Brooklyn

  6   North Warrants as well as DOCCS Warrants attempted in

  7   numerous ways to try to locate him, including through

  8   the mother of his children, with whom he is in touch,

  9   who denied having any information about his

 10   whereabouts, other family members as well, known

 11   addresses for him.

 12                  And the defendant during that time period

 13   was in numerous different states, used numerous

 14   different phone numbers, dropped phone numbers, used

 15   multiple numbers at a time.            The defendant also has

 16   multiple aliases.        He has fake identifications,

 17   including fake identification with his own photograph

 18   on it, photographs of which were recovered during a

 19   search warrant on an address that he had lived at,

 20   where those guns were found, your Honor.                  He dropped

 21   his social media accounts and went through great

 22   lengths to be successful in this parole absconsion

23    until today, your Honor.

 24                  So, your Honor, as you can see, the risk of

 25   flight is very great in this case.                He in fact has been
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  1   in the process of flight from parole for several years.

  2   He also while on parole had his parole revoked twice.

  3   He had DOCCS -- the DOCCS investigator reported 17

  4   different attempts to apprehend him, most recently a

  5   search for him on June 25 th of 2024, and during this

  6   time, he was unable to be located.

  7                  Now, he was located in relation to this

  8   arrest through phone work, your Honor, being able to

  9   locate a current phone number, which was difficult as

 10   he changes phone numbers frequently, and ultimately

 11   tracking his phone to a location on Long Island.                     That

 12   being said, he has had -- he is transient.                  He has been

 13   in multiple states and is not tied to the district

14    because of his absconsion from parole in part.

 15                  Also, your Honor, the weight of the evidence

 16   in this case, where just as a sample of the

 17   government’s evidence, there are text messages between

 18   the defendant and another gang member where he is

 19   detailing having obtained personal identifying

 20   information from victims, using it, and then

 21   distributing it to one of his coconspirators for them

 22   to use, and letting him know which ones he has used to

 23   commit fraud and which ones his coconspirator should

 24   use.    This is spelled out in his own words from one of

 25   his own phones.        There’s also significant financial
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  1    records in this case tying the defendant to the

  2    fraudulent scheme.

  3                      I’ll turn just very briefly, your Honor, to

  4    dangerousness.         I’ve already mentioned the history of

  5    gang activity, which includes violence committed by the

  6    gang and use of weapons by the gang, with which this

  7    defendant was involved.             And the financial fraud, your

  8    Honor, while not violent is extremely dangerous to the

  9    community.         The defendant was purchasing people’s

 10    identities and handing them out to his coconspirators.

 11    This ruins people’s financial future and it can ruin

 12    lives, your Honor, and there is evidence in this case

 13    of continued criminal activity, continued fraud, up

 14    until the time of his apprehension.                   So with that, we

 15    do ask for detention in this case.

 16                      THE COURT:      All right.        Mr. Palma, I know

 17    you’re not presenting a bail package today.                     Is there

 18    anything you want to add at this time?

 19                      MR. PALMA:      Not at this time, your Honor,

 20    thank you.

 21                      THE COURT:      Okay.    I do have the report from

 22    Pretrial Services as well.                Does Pretrial want to be

 23    heard?

 24                      PRETRIAL SERVICES:        Nothing from Pretrial,

 25    your Honor.
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  1                      THE COURT:      All right.        Given the nature of

  2    the offense in this case and the defendant’s history of

  3    parole violations, and also in light of the fact that

  4    no bail package has been presented, I will enter an

  5    order of detention at this time.                    But I want Mr. Jones

  6    to know that at any point in time, you can renew an

  7    application for bail, okay?

  8                      THE DEFENDANT:       Okay.

  9                      THE COURT:      Anything else for the government

 10    today?

 11                      MS. DEAN:    Yes, your Honor.           We have a date

 12    from Judge Irizarry’s court for the first status

 13    conference of October 28 th at 11:45 a.m.                   The government

 14    is requesting an order of excludable delay from today

 15    until October 28 th to begin discovery, turn discovery

 16    over to the defense, allow for the defense to review

 17    that discovery, and also to begin plea negotiations.

 18                      THE COURT:      Understood.        Have you discussed

 19    this request with defense counsel?

 20                      MS. DEAN:    I have not, although we did

 21    discuss the review of discovery in the meantime.

 22                      MR. PALMA:      Can I have a moment to explain

 23    this to my client?

 24                      THE COURT:      Sure, go ahead.

 25                      (Mr. Palma is conferring with the
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  1    defendant.)

  2                      MR. PALMA:      I explained to my client his

  3    speedy trial rights and he will waive -- he’ll exclude

  4    -- he’ll agree to the exclusion of time between now and

  5    October 28 th .

  6                      THE COURT:      All right.        Why don’t go ahead

  7    and take a minute to fill out the form then, okay?

  8                      MS. DEAN:    Thank you, your Honor.

  9                      (Pause in proceedings.)

 10                      THE COURT:      Mr. Palma --

 11                      MR. PALMA:      Yes.

 12                      THE COURT:      Have you discussed with your

 13    client the matter of excluding time?

 14                      MR. PALMA:      Yes, I have, extensively.

 15                      THE COURT:      All right.        And do you believe

 16    it’s in your client’s best interest to exclude time?

 17                      MR. PALMA:      Yes, I do, for sure.

 18                      THE COURT:      As you mentioned a minute ago,

 19    the basis for the reason for the exclusion is potential

 20    plea negotiations, is that correct?

 21                      MR. PALMA:      Yes, and also to review

 22    discovery.

 23                      THE COURT:      All right.        Let me turn to you

 24    now, Mr. Jones.         I have in front of me an application

 25    and order of excludable delay.                Just to confirm, is
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  1    this your signature on the form that you just signed?

  2                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

  3                      THE COURT:      All right.        Have you discussed

  4    this application with your lawyer?

  5                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

  6                      THE COURT:      Do you know what you are

  7    agreeing to by consenting to this application?

  8                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

  9                      THE COURT:      I want to make sure you

 10    understand what you are agreeing to by consenting to

 11    this order.         Under the Constitution and laws of the

 12    United States, a defendant in a criminal case is

 13    entitled to a speedy trial.               Specifically, by statute,

 14    a trial must begin within 70 days of either the

 15    unsealing of the indictment or the defendant’s first

 16    appearance in the district of prosecution, with certain

 17    periods of time excluded from that 70-day calculation.

 18    If trial does not begin within the 70 days, that could

 19    form the basis for a motion to dismiss the charges

 20    against you.

 21                      By agreeing to exclude time from today,

 22    October 11 th , until October 28 th from the 70-day

 23    calculation, you are in effect agreeing that the speedy

 24    trial clock will not be running at all during that

 25    period of time.         Therefore, if I approve this exclusion
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  1    and if you later made a motion to dismiss the charges

  2    on the grounds that you had not been brought to trial

  3    within 70 days, you would not be permitted to take into

  4    account in your calculation the period of time from

  5    today, October 11 th , until October 28 th , 2024.

  6                      Do you understand all of that?

  7                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

  8                      THE COURT:      All right.        Now, if you choose

  9    to persist in your not guilty plea and you go to trial,

 10    as you have an absolute right to do, you could end up

 11    spending additional time in jail awaiting trial.

 12                      Do you understand that?

 13                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

 14                      THE COURT:      Understanding what I’ve just

 15    said, do you still want me to approve this order of

 16    excludable delay?          Do you want me to approve the

 17    application?

 18                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

 19                      THE COURT:      All right.        And are you making

 20    this decision voluntarily and of your own free will?

 21                      THE DEFENDANT:       Yes.

 22                      THE COURT:      Have any promises or threats

 23    been made to you to get you to agree to this

 24    application?

 25                      THE DEFENDANT:       No.
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  1                      THE COURT:      I find at this time that the

  2    defendant Mr. Jones’ consent is knowing, intelligent,

  3    and voluntary, and that excluding the specified period

  4    of time serves the public interest, so I’ll go ahead

  5    and approve the order of excludable delay.

  6                      Ms. Dean, anything else for the government

  7    today?

  8                      MS. DEAN:    Nothing from the government,

  9    thank you, your Honor.

 10                      THE COURT:      Mr. Palma?

 11                      MR. PALMA:      Nothing, your Honor.          Thank you

 12    very much for your time.

 13                      THE COURT:      All right, we are adjourned.

 14    Have a nice day, everyone.

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