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Securing America's Mineral Future: Unlocking the Economic Value Beneath Our Feet (House Small Business Committee hearing, June 24, 2025)

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The printed record of a House Committee on Small Business hearing, Securing America's Mineral Future: Unlocking the Economic Value Beneath Our Feet, held June 24, 2025, Small Business Committee Document Number 119–015. Chairman Roger Williams and Hon. Hillary Scholten gave opening statements. Four witnesses testified: Aaron T. Dowd, Chief Executive Officer of Rare Earth Salts, Beatrice, NE; Harvey Kaye, Executive Director of U.S. Critical Materials; Ken Mushinski, President and Chief Executive Officer of Rare Element Resources, Littleton, CO; and Dr. Laura Stoy, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Rivalia Chemical, Lemont, IL. The appendix carries their prepared statements and letters from the Alliance for Mineral Security, Ecological Economics, the National Science Foundation, the Outdoor Alliance, ReElement Technologies and Robert Anderson.

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                                                                  SECURING   AMERICA’S  MINERAL   FUTURE:
                                                                    UNLOCKING THE ECONOMIC VALUE BENEATH
                                                                    OUR FEET


                                                                                                      HEARING
                                                                                                             BEFORE THE


                                                                           COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
                                                                                  UNITED STATES
                                                                            HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
                                                                                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS
                                                                                                           FIRST SESSION


                                                                                                           HEARING HELD
                                                                                                            JUNE 24, 2025




                                                                                    Small Business Committee Document Number 119–015
                                                                                      Available via the GPO Website: www.govinfo.gov




                                                                                               U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE
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                                                                                        HOUSE COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
                                                                                             ROGER WILLIAMS, Texas, Chairman
                                                                                                  PETE STAUBER, Minnesota
                                                                                                  DAN MEUSER, Pennsylvania
                                                                                                   BETH VAN DUYNE, Texas
                                                                                                      JAKE ELLZEY, Texas
                                                                                                    MARK ALFORD, Missouri
                                                                                                    NICK LALOTA, New York
                                                                                                  BRAD FINSTAD, Minnesota
                                                                                                     TONY WIED, Wisconsin
                                                                                               ROB BRESNAHAN, Pennsylvania
                                                                                                      BRIAN JACK, Georgia
                                                                                                  TROY DOWNING, Montana
                                                                                        KIMBERLYN KING-HINDS, Northern Marina Islands
                                                                                                   DEREK SCHMIDT, Kansas
                                                                                                   JIMMY PATRONIS, Florida
                                                                                         NYDIA VELÁZQUEZ, New York, Ranking Member
                                                                                               MORGAN MCGARVEY, Kentucky
                                                                                                HILLARY SCHOLTEN, Michigan
                                                                                               LAMONICA MCIVER, New Jersey
                                                                                                   GIL CISNEROS, California
                                                                                                KELLY MORRISON, Minnesota
                                                                                                GEORGE LATIMER, New York
                                                                                                    DEREK TRAN, California
                                                                                                 LATEEFAH SIMON, California
                                                                                               JOHNNY OLSZEWSKI, Maryland
                                                                                                 HERB CONAWAY, New Jersey
                                                                                            MAGGIE GOODLANDER, New Hampshire

                                                                                               LAUREN HOLMES, Majority Staff Director
                                                                                                MELISSA JUNG, Minority Staff Director




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                                                                                                                  CONTENTS
                                                                                                                OPENING STATEMENTS
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Page
                                                                  Hon. Roger Williams ................................................................................................               1
                                                                  Hon. Hillary Scholten ..............................................................................................               2

                                                                                                                           WITNESSES
                                                                  Mr. Aaron T Dowd, Chief Executive Officer, Rare Earth Salts, Beatrice,
                                                                    NE .........................................................................................................................     5
                                                                  Mr. Harvey Kaye, Executive Director, U.S. Critical Materials ...........................                                           6
                                                                  Mr. Ken Mushinski, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rare Element
                                                                    Resources, Littleton, CO ......................................................................................                  8
                                                                  Dr. Laura Stoy, PhD., Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Rivalia Chemical,
                                                                    Lemont, IL ............................................................................................................          9

                                                                                                                            APPENDIX
                                                                  Prepared Statements:
                                                                      Mr. Aaron T. Dowd, Chief Executive Officer, Rare Earth Salts, Beatrice,
                                                                        NE ..................................................................................................................       35
                                                                      Mr. Harvey Kaye, Executive Director, U.S. Critical Materials ....................                                             38
                                                                      Mr. Ken Mushinski, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rare Element
                                                                        Resources, Littleton, CO ...............................................................................                    41
                                                                      Dr. Laura Stoy, PhD., Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Rivalia
                                                                        Chemical, Lemont, IL ...................................................................................                    47
                                                                  Questions for the Record:
                                                                      None.
                                                                  Answers for the Record:
                                                                      None.
                                                                  Additional Material for the Record:
                                                                      Alliance for Mineral Security Letter ...............................................................                          51
                                                                      Ecological Economics Letter ............................................................................                      57
                                                                      National Science Foundation (NSF) Letter ....................................................                                 66
                                                                      Outdoor Alliance Letter ...................................................................................                   73
                                                                      ReElement Technologies Letter .......................................................................                         77
                                                                      Robert Anderson Letter ...................................................................................                    79




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                                                                  SECURING AMERICA’S MINERAL FUTURE:
                                                                   UNLOCKING   THE   ECONOMIC VALUE
                                                                   BENEATH OUR FEET


                                                                                                 TUESDAY, JUNE 24, 2025

                                                                                          HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
                                                                                       COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS,
                                                                                                                    Washington, DC.
                                                                     The Committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:08 a.m., in Room
                                                                  2360, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Roger Williams [chair-
                                                                  man of the Committee] presiding.
                                                                     Present: Representatives Williams, Stauber, Meuser, Alford,
                                                                  Finstad, Bresnahan, Downing, Patronis, Scholten, McIver,
                                                                  Cisneros, Morrison, Tran, Simon, Olszewski, and Goodlander.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Good morning, everyone. I now call the
                                                                  Committee on Small Business to order. And without objection, the
                                                                  Chair is authorized to declare recess of the committee at any time.
                                                                  I recognize myself for my opening statement.
                                                                     Welcome to today’s hearing entitled Securing America’s Mineral
                                                                  Future: Unlocking the Economic Value Beneath Our Feet. Thank
                                                                  you to all our witnesses for joining us today. We appreciate you
                                                                  taking time away from your busy businesses to participate in to-
                                                                  day’s conversation. So today, we will examine how to secure our
                                                                  mineral supply chains against hostile foreign adversaries such as
                                                                  the Chinese Communist Party and how America’s small businesses,
                                                                  national security, and ability to create new, innovative technologies
                                                                  rely on these essential materials.
                                                                     Rare earth minerals and the broader category of critical minerals
                                                                  used in the manufacturing process of batteries, magnets, com-
                                                                  puters, and medical devices, to name a few, are vital to the func-
                                                                  tioning of the American economy. Unfortunately, far too long, bur-
                                                                  densome regulations have made the production and refining of rare
                                                                  earth and critical minerals difficult in America, contributing to
                                                                  China’s dominance in this market.
                                                                     Now, to combat the CCP’s monopoly, President Trump issued
                                                                  several executive orders aimed at bolstering domestic mineral pro-
                                                                  duction and reducing our reliance on foreign adversaries. Cur-
                                                                  rently, the Mountain Pass Mine in California is the only active
                                                                  mine in the United States that extracts rare earth minerals. As a
                                                                  result, approximately 80 percent of the critical minerals used in
                                                                  America are supplied from foreign sources. The lack of domestic
                                                                  production undermines our national security and hinders small
                                                                  business innovation.
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                                                                     Thankfully, the Trump administration is working to unleash
                                                                  American energy production, safeguarding national security and al-
                                                                  lowing American small businesses to compete on a global stage.
                                                                  Small businesses are at the forefront of American innovation. The
                                                                  enhancement of the defense industry that provides our homeland
                                                                  relies on groundbreaking technology often developed by small busi-
                                                                  nesses that need rare earth minerals to produce.
                                                                     I want to thank our witnesses again for their contributions to
                                                                  end U.S. reliance on foreign rare earth elements and critical min-
                                                                  erals. We look forward to your testimony.
                                                                     With that, I will yield to the distinguished Ranking Member
                                                                  today from the great state of Michigan, Ms. Scholten, for her open-
                                                                  ing remarks.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you
                                                                  to our incredible witnesses and thank you for your patience. We
                                                                  had a very important caucus meeting this morning. It kept me tied
                                                                  up. I am so grateful, Mr. Chairman, that we are holding this hear-
                                                                  ing this morning. Critical minerals are pivotal to our nation’s clean
                                                                  energy transition and national security. On this, we agree there is
                                                                  a lot of common ground. That is why I am so grateful that we are
                                                                  having this hearing.
                                                                     These minerals are an essential component of our smartphones,
                                                                  electric vehicles, and, importantly, military hardware. Yet the sup-
                                                                  ply chains for these 50 materials often run offshore and through
                                                                  the influence of our adversaries, most notably China, as you men-
                                                                  tioned. That is why federal policy should redirect our critical min-
                                                                  eral supply chains through our shores and the shores of our allies,
                                                                  not our enemies.
                                                                     Every critical mineral is unique. Some, like aluminum, are rel-
                                                                  atively easy to extract and process into usable material. Others,
                                                                  like certain rare earth elements, are less concentrated in ore.
                                                                  Therefore, they require advanced, complex refinement methods
                                                                  that are developed by and accessible to only a handful of countries
                                                                  and companies. And crucially, some critical minerals just aren’t de-
                                                                  posited within U.S. territory, meaning they can’t be mined here.
                                                                  The diversity of these materials, their properties, and extraction
                                                                  and refinement techniques means that the avenues to onshoring
                                                                  them must be equally diverse.
                                                                     It is a complex problem, and we need a complex solution to make
                                                                  these minerals accessible. In other words, Mr. Chairman, we can’t
                                                                  only mine our way out of our critical mineral needs. The federal
                                                                  government must prioritize and maintain investments in recycling,
                                                                  waste recovery, friend shoring, and industrial policy if our nation
                                                                  is to reclaim control over our critical mineral supplies.
                                                                     In particular, I want to mention the invaluable boosts to domes-
                                                                  tic critical mineral sourcing, processing, and component manufac-
                                                                  turing found in the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and
                                                                  the Inflation Reduction Act, two landmark pieces of legislation
                                                                  signed under the previous administration. Democrats stand ready
                                                                  to defend and expand upon the massive long-term investments the
                                                                  federal government has already made in this space. We want to
                                                                  make it better.
                                                                     I would also be remiss if I didn’t highlight the downsides of min-
                                                                  ing when not done properly. When a new mine is opened, America




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                                                                  gains another source of minerals, yes, but it often loses unique
                                                                  pristine land that would have yielded far more economic activity
                                                                  and value through tourism, hunting, fishing, and other outdoor
                                                                  recreation business. In my family, we are avid outdoorsmen and
                                                                  women, year-round anglers. This matters deeply to us. Commu-
                                                                  nities near mine often have to contend with new large competitors
                                                                  for wastewater resources and pollution of what remains with min-
                                                                  ing waste and byproducts. Sometimes, new mines even run rough-
                                                                  shod over long-standing treaties and agreements with neighboring
                                                                  tribes. It is vital that we, as federal policymakers, consider the
                                                                  tradeoffs of expanding mining and the harm it can pose to nearby
                                                                  towns, tribes, and small businesses.
                                                                     It is also important to remember that hard rock mining in Amer-
                                                                  ica is not governed by an outdated law from the 1870s. You heard
                                                                  me right. Not the 1970s, but the 1870s. Nearly 150 years ago. Long
                                                                  before the concepts of land preservation and environmental protec-
                                                                  tion and even consumer automobiles entered the mainstream.
                                                                     Before we consider any changes to mining regulation, we have to
                                                                  reform the underpinning mining law to further balance the inter-
                                                                  ests of miners and other industries and make mining activities
                                                                  more sustainable for the environment. To ensure that we can all
                                                                  continue to use these vital resources on shoring our critical mineral
                                                                  supply chain is a complicated issue intertwined with many other
                                                                  topics and policy areas. But I have trust in this committee, our wit-
                                                                  nesses here today, and our shared commitment to making sure that
                                                                  the vast majority of these critical earth minerals are not sourced
                                                                  only through our competitor.
                                                                     I look forward to the hearing, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Gentlelady yields back. And I will now in-
                                                                  troduce our witnesses.
                                                                     Our first witness here with us today is Aaron Dowd. Mr. Dowd
                                                                  is the chief executive officer of Rare Earth Salts in Beatrice, Ne-
                                                                  braska. Mr. Dowd has more than two decades of experience leading
                                                                  efforts at the intersection of global business strategy, government
                                                                  affairs, and national security. Mr. Dowd previously served as chief
                                                                  of staff in the U.S. Senate and supported high-level policy work at
                                                                  the Atlantic Council and Department of Energy. Mr. Dowd earned
                                                                  a Master’s degree in Business Administration from Duke, Home of
                                                                  the Blue Devils, right, University, and Bachelor’s degree in Polit-
                                                                  ical Science from Marquette University. Thank you for being with
                                                                  us today, and we look forward to our conversation.
                                                                     Our next witness here with us today is Mr. Harvey Kaye. Mr.
                                                                  Kaye is the executive director of U.S. Critical Materials in Salt
                                                                  Lake City, Utah. Mr. Kaye has over 45 years experience in finance,
                                                                  strategic planning, and executive leadership across both public and
                                                                  private companies. Mr. Kaye has served as Founder, Chairman,
                                                                  and now Director of Zero Gravity Solutions, an agricultural bio-
                                                                  technology firm. Mr. Kaye also held various leadership roles at
                                                                  Latitude Solutions, a company specializing in water remediation
                                                                  and treatment. He received his Bachelor of Science degree in Mar-
                                                                  keting from Temple University. So we are glad you are here today
                                                                  and look forward to your testimony.
                                                                     Our next witness is Mr. Ken Mushinski. Mr. Mushinski is the
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                                                                  Sundance, Wyoming. Mr. Mushinski has over 30 years experience
                                                                  in corporate development, mergers and acquisitions, and regulatory
                                                                  navigation across the mining and nuclear energy sectors. Mr.
                                                                  Mushinski previously served as vice president of corporate plan-
                                                                  ning and acquisitions for General Atomics Technologies Corpora-
                                                                  tion. Mr. Mushinski earned a Master’s degree in Business Adminis-
                                                                  tration and Bachelor’s of science in Mechanical Engineering from
                                                                  San Diego State University, where the Aztecs are. And we appre-
                                                                  ciate you being here today.
                                                                     And I now recognize the Ranking Member Ms. Scholten from
                                                                  Michigan to briefly introduce our last witness.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman.
                                                                     Dr. Laura Stoy is an environmental engineer and the founder
                                                                  and CEO of Rivalia Chemical, an Illinois startup developing a
                                                                  novel method to chemically recover rare earth elements from coal
                                                                  ash and other mining waste. Rivalia Chemical patented the process
                                                                  and has been working on commercializing it since 2022. Addition-
                                                                  ally, the firm enjoys access to the Argonne National Laboratory in
                                                                  Lamont under the Department of Energy’s Lab-Embedded Entre-
                                                                  preneurship Program, LEAP. Previously, Dr. Stoy served at the
                                                                  Environmental Protection Agency as a National Science Founda-
                                                                  tion intern fellow. At the EPA, Dr. Stoy worked on an environ-
                                                                  mental assessment of rare earth extraction from mining waste, pre-
                                                                  cisely the process that she is developing and using now. While at
                                                                  school, Dr. Stoy also helped create an app named RocketJudge,
                                                                  which automates judge work for competitions such as fashion
                                                                  shows, barbecue festivals, and professional conferences. It is safe to
                                                                  say, Mr. Chairman, that Dr. Stoy is a serial innovator. Dr. Stoy
                                                                  holds a Bachelor’s of Arts degree in Chemistry from Vanderbilt
                                                                  University and a Ph.D. in environmental engineering from Georgia
                                                                  Tech. Welcome, Dr. Stoy.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Welcome again to all of you. And then,
                                                                  before we begin to recognize the witnesses, we do have a few rules
                                                                  around here. Got to go over the rules, all right? And I would like
                                                                  to remind all of you that your oral testimony is restricted to 5 min-
                                                                  utes in length. If you see the light turn red in front of you, it
                                                                  means your 5 minutes has concluded, and you should wrap up your
                                                                  testimony. If you keep talking, you will hear me do this. That is
                                                                  a kind way of saying, quit talking. Okay? And so, and also on an-
                                                                  other note, you periodically will recognize or will see some of our
                                                                  panel move in and out. That is because we got other hearings going
                                                                  on. It has nothing to do with whether you said the right thing or
                                                                  the wrong thing. We will be moving in and out, but you will see
                                                                  that.
                                                                     So with that in mind, I now recognize Mr. Dowd for his 5-minute
                                                                  opening remarks.




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                                                                  STATEMENTS OF MR. AARON T. DOWD, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF-
                                                                   FICER, RARE EARTH SALTS; MR. HARVEY KAYE, EXECUTIVE
                                                                   DIRECTOR, U.S. CRITICAL MATERIALS; MR. KEN MUSHINSKI,
                                                                   PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, RARE ELE-
                                                                   MENT RESOURCES; AND DR. LAURA STOY, PHD., FOUNDER
                                                                   AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, RIVALIA CHEMICAL
                                                                       STATEMENT OF AARON T. DOWD, CEO, RARE EARTH SALTS
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Chairman Williams, Congresswoman Scholten, and
                                                                  distinguished Members of the committee, thank you for the invita-
                                                                  tion to testify on the critical issue of securing America’s mineral fu-
                                                                  ture. I appear before you today representing Rare Earth Salts, a
                                                                  Nebraska-based small business at the forefront of addressing one
                                                                  of our nation’s challenges.
                                                                     The United States confronts an unprecedented threat to our eco-
                                                                  nomic sovereignty and national security through China’s control of
                                                                  the rare earth elements supply chain. Rare earths are a set of 17
                                                                  elements in the periodic table that play a critical role in our na-
                                                                  tional security, energy independence, environmental future, and
                                                                  economic prosperity. These elements are far more than mere com-
                                                                  modities; they form the backbone of modern technological advance-
                                                                  ments. From powering batteries and electric vehicles to enabling
                                                                  medical equipment, military systems, smartphones, and wind tur-
                                                                  bines, rare earths are foundational to the innovation driving our
                                                                  technological civilization.
                                                                     The age of technology is indeed the age of critical minerals with
                                                                  vast geopolitical implications. The need for securing both domesti-
                                                                  cally sourced rare earth elements and domestic rare earth proc-
                                                                  essing infrastructure is vital.
                                                                     Today, China controls 90 percent of the global downstream rare
                                                                  earth market, impacting the rest of the world’s supply chain and
                                                                  giving them significant control in restricting America’s access to
                                                                  materials vital for manufacturing and defense capabilities. This
                                                                  was not always the case. From the 1960s until the 1990s, the U.S.,
                                                                  specifically California’s Mountain Pass mine, led global production.
                                                                  However, China’s deliberate industrial policy systematically cap-
                                                                  tured market control, creating the vulnerable supply chain we face
                                                                  today. Though China’s dominance in the rare earth market has
                                                                  prompted global efforts to find alternative sources and processes to
                                                                  produce these critical compounds, producers outside of China con-
                                                                  tinue to face formidable challenges, struggling to compete with the
                                                                  highly competitive pricing of China’s domestic market.
                                                                     The challenge extends beyond supply security to economic com-
                                                                  petitiveness. China’s current market dominance stems from their
                                                                  large-scale use of Solvent Extraction, which were developed and
                                                                  implemented in the U.S. in the 1960s. These processes require hun-
                                                                  dreds of separation stages and generate excessive chemical waste.
                                                                  Western companies utilizing this proven method face higher pro-
                                                                  duction costs due to necessary environmental and worker protec-
                                                                  tions. This cost differential has created a market failure where
                                                                  Western innovation cannot compete with Chinese production, de-
                                                                  spite superior technology and environmental stewardship. For
                                                                  small businesses like ours, this represents both a challenge and an
                                                                  extraordinary opportunity to innovate and lead.




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                                                                     Founded in 2012 by Dr. Joseph Brewer, Rare Earth Salts exem-
                                                                  plifies how America’s small business innovation can address stra-
                                                                  tegic national challenges. Rare Earth Salts addresses the global
                                                                  need for a cost-effective, sustainable, and environmentally friendly
                                                                  rare earth separation process.
                                                                     Prior to developing our proprietary processes, we evaluated the
                                                                  strengths and weaknesses of every separation process used since
                                                                  the 1940s. That allowed us to invent a revolutionary electro-
                                                                  chemical process from the ground up based on sound basic chem-
                                                                  istry. The separation process advancements by Rare Earth Salts
                                                                  represent industry-changing solutions demanded by the rare earth
                                                                  supply chain to profitably compete with Chinese production and
                                                                  maintain a low environmental footprint.
                                                                     Rare Earth Salts has been working closely with the U.S. govern-
                                                                  ment and has received multiple grants and awards for its separa-
                                                                  tion technologies from the Department of Defense and the Depart-
                                                                  ment of Energy. These private-public partnerships demonstrate
                                                                  how federal investment in small business innovation can yield stra-
                                                                  tegic returns for national security while building defense industrial
                                                                  capacity. Rare Earth Salts recently received an award from the De-
                                                                  partment of Defense to increase production of heavy rare earth ele-
                                                                  ments, specifically Terbium.
                                                                     The rare earth challenge represents more than supply chain vul-
                                                                  nerability; it is a defining opportunity for American small busi-
                                                                  nesses to lead the next generation of critical mineral production.
                                                                  Companies like Rare Earth Salts exemplify how American innova-
                                                                  tion can compete globally.
                                                                     Supporting domestic innovation in mineral processing can help
                                                                  ensure the United States does not merely secure its mineral future
                                                                  but leads the world in sustainable, competitive production of these
                                                                  essential materials. By supporting small businesses developing in-
                                                                  novative separation technologies, we can reestablish America’s
                                                                  leadership in this critical sector.
                                                                     Rare Earth Salts stands ready to contribute to America’s mineral
                                                                  independence. The mission requires collective effort. With a robust
                                                                  policy framework that acknowledges the strategic importance of do-
                                                                  mestic critical mineral production, American small businesses can
                                                                  help transform this challenge into a competitive advantage. The
                                                                  technology is ready. The market need is undeniable. The national
                                                                  security imperative is urgent. We need to now unlock the economic
                                                                  value beneath our feet and secure America’s mineral future.
                                                                     Chairman Williams, Congresswoman Scholten, and distinguished
                                                                  Members of the committee, thank you again for the invitation to
                                                                  testify, and I look forward to your questions.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Thank you.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Kaye for his 5-minute opening remarks.
                                                                       STATEMENT OF HARVEY KAYE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, U.S.
                                                                                      CRITICAL MATERIAL
                                                                    Mr. KAYE. Thank you Mr. Chairman and Members of the Com-
                                                                  mittee for allowing us to testify today. This is an issue that has
                                                                  taken 15 years to come to the point that we are at right now. We
                                                                  have all talked about Chinese dominance. It is actually 90 or 95
                                                                  percent dominance in terms of its ability to process rare earths.




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                                                                  Their concerns about the environment are not the same as ours. It
                                                                  is no longer acceptable to spend 20 or 29 years to get a project on-
                                                                  line.
                                                                     To that end, U.S. Critical Materials controls 339 claims covering
                                                                  approximately 11 square miles in a place called Sheep Creek, Mon-
                                                                  tana. Montana in the past has been known as the Treasure State.
                                                                  Our objective is to make it the Treasure State again.
                                                                     To that end we have a two-point point of our spear to accomplish
                                                                  those goals. First, is the rare earths that encompass our deposit
                                                                  have been considered now the highest-grade rare earths ever found
                                                                  in America, averaging 9 percent up. We also have a very robust de-
                                                                  posit of gallium. Gallium is a mineral, a critical mineral that has
                                                                  3,800 military applications. We now face a geopolitical situation
                                                                  that we are all aware of. It is in the front page news. To that end,
                                                                  we have expanded a great amount of the critical minerals and rare
                                                                  earths required for missiles, for radar, for advanced aircraft, the
                                                                  F47, et cetera. We cannot be dependent upon the Chinese to be our
                                                                  supply of these materials.
                                                                     Therefore our focus and the focus I hope of this committee is to
                                                                  assist companies such as ourselves to accomplish those goals. What
                                                                  do we need to do that? We need help in accelerating permitting.
                                                                  Today, as the congresswoman stated, there is regulations that we
                                                                  are dealing with since 1870. Okay? We have made an attempt to
                                                                  fix that through Fast-41. Okay? Now, it requires cutting the red
                                                                  tape, unchaining the American entrepreneurial spirit in order to
                                                                  accomplish the goals. We have it here. It should be found in Amer-
                                                                  ica.
                                                                     We also have now entered into a venture with one of the pres-
                                                                  tigious American National labs called Idaho National Lab. Dr. Rob-
                                                                  ert Fox is an acknowledged expert in the world of developing proc-
                                                                  esses and technologies to process these kinds of minerals. We did
                                                                  a full-court press with them, and at the end of a year, they have
                                                                  accomplished the goal of setting forth the flow diagrams and the
                                                                  methodology for a process that we call an electrochemical mem-
                                                                  brane reactor. It is environmentally conscious. It has the ability to
                                                                  process rare earths in an efficient environmental manner.
                                                                     To that end, therefore, we are working very hard to cooperate
                                                                  with the government. This committee can help us and the entire
                                                                  industry enormously. We need to do what we did with Sputnik. We
                                                                  need to do what we did with the Manhattan Project. This country
                                                                  can no longer have the Chinese knee on our neck. Therefore, as a
                                                                  group, we need to work together, government-private partnerships.
                                                                  And what is required? What is required is help in permitting. What
                                                                  is required is for us to establish a permanent market for the
                                                                  offtake so the Chinese can no longer utilize price manipulation to
                                                                  hurt our domestic marketplace. And we need to work together as
                                                                  a team in order to make the United States critically mineral inde-
                                                                  pendent and sovereign again. And so with that, I yield with 22 sec-
                                                                  onds left.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. You are going to go far in this company.
                                                                  Thank you for the testimony.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Mushinski for his 5-minute opening re-
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                                                                  STATEMENT OF KEN MUSHINSKI, PRESIDENT AND CEO, RARE
                                                                                 ELEMENT RESOURCES
                                                                     Mr. MUSHINSKI. Chairman Williams, Ranking Member
                                                                  Scholten, and esteemed Members of the committee, thank you for
                                                                  the opportunity to address this committee on issues of vital impor-
                                                                  tance to this nation-securing critical minerals and, in my case spe-
                                                                  cifically, rare earths, for our National defense and high-tech indus-
                                                                  tries and supporting small businesses in meeting that need.
                                                                     RAR is a publicly traded company with a critical rare earth de-
                                                                  posit and state-of-the-art innovative rare earth processing and sep-
                                                                  aration demonstration plant in Wyoming. We have invested over
                                                                  $170 million in developing our USGS-recognized world-class rare-
                                                                  earth deposit and proprietary separation technology.
                                                                     I know you are all well-versed in why rare earths are critical
                                                                  components in our modern technology, essentially, in everything
                                                                  from smartphones, electric vehicles, wind turbines, and defense
                                                                  systems. Our rare earth elements are enablers to the evolution of
                                                                  our high-tech world and vital to our American defense system.
                                                                     It is also widely known that China dominates the rare earth in-
                                                                  dustry and is taking deliberate action to control the entire proc-
                                                                  essing and manufacturing supply chains where rare earths are uti-
                                                                  lized for downstream products. This has created an untenable Na-
                                                                  tional and economic scenario. Chinese dominance and manipulation
                                                                  of the rare earth extraction, processing and separation, and perma-
                                                                  nent magnet production is an existential risk to our modern world.
                                                                  Further, this dominance allows China to influence global prices,
                                                                  making it risky for competitors to invest.
                                                                     Small businesses like RER have unique technologies and the po-
                                                                  tential to innovate and contribute to domesticating the rare supply
                                                                  chain from mine to magnets. However, our small companies face
                                                                  challenges that have distinct needs and must be addressed to en-
                                                                  sure a sustainable domestic rare earth supply chain.
                                                                     As an example of the obstacles faced by RER, we have completed
                                                                  our resource confirmation and commenced the arduous NEPA per-
                                                                  mitting of the Bear Lodge Project in 2011. We spent over $30 mil-
                                                                  lion and many years progressing that effort, an effort that was ulti-
                                                                  mately derailed through Chinese market manipulation whereby
                                                                  rare earths supplied by the Chinese flooded the market, and prices
                                                                  bottomed out. As a result, RER’s access to capital quickly dis-
                                                                  appeared and, ultimately, resulting in cessation of operation and
                                                                  almost bankrupting our company.
                                                                     Realizing we could not compete with predatory Chinese market
                                                                  dominance, RER, in conjunction with its now majority shareholder
                                                                  and affiliate of General Atomics, pivoted to proving our novel and
                                                                  proprietary rare earth material separation technology so that we
                                                                  and potentially other domestic rare earth companies would not be
                                                                  reliant on China to economically and efficiently separate the rare
                                                                  earth concentrates produced here in the United States. Our goal is
                                                                  to compete with China in rare earth production and also create a
                                                                  path for processing and separation that is economically and envi-
                                                                  ronmentally superior—adhering to all U.S. Environmental regula-
                                                                  tions while supplanting the environmentally detrimental and costly
                                                                  steps in conventional Chinese technology.




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                                                                    With that challenge in front of us, RER, with partial funding
                                                                  from the Department of Energy and the state of Wyoming, have
                                                                  constructed and will soon begin operating our over $66 million
                                                                  demonstration plant that is intended to prove our separation tech-
                                                                  nology on an industrial scale. Even with the expected success from
                                                                  this plant’s operation, without additional support from the govern-
                                                                  ment, RER and other innovative small businesses face monumental
                                                                  hurdles. Specifically, access to capital requires a certain level of
                                                                  market stability that is thwarted by Chinese ability to manipulate
                                                                  the rare earth market.
                                                                    Small businesses like RER, unfortunately, find themselves in a
                                                                  paradox whereby investors and potential industry supply chain
                                                                  partners require certainty in the markets, and yet this is not pos-
                                                                  sible with the ongoing threat of Chinese market interference.
                                                                    We believe addressing this nascent market’s unique challenges,
                                                                  especially for small and innovative businesses, requires a multi-
                                                                  faceted approach to market stabilization. RER encourages Congress
                                                                  to pursue policies and support funding to support small businesses
                                                                  that are innovating and progressing a secure domestic rare supply
                                                                  chain, including government purchasing to establish strategic
                                                                  stockpiles as potentially envisioned, but with the $2.5 billion crit-
                                                                  ical minerals included in the recently passed reconciliation pack-
                                                                  age, government grants to unlock industry innovation, government
                                                                  incentives and guarantees to encourage private investment in loans
                                                                  and permitting reform to bring surety to project timeliness.
                                                                    We believe these types of initiatives will remove the significant
                                                                  market obstacles and barriers to progress for small businesses en-
                                                                  gaged in rare supply chain so that collectively, we can become a so-
                                                                  lution to a very real and present danger to our nation’s defense and
                                                                  high-tech industries.
                                                                    I am honored to be here today to share with you RER’s unique
                                                                  experience as a small business in the rare earth industry, and I
                                                                  look forward to addressing your questions. Thank you very much.
                                                                    Chairman WILLIAMS. Gentleman yields back.
                                                                    And now recognize Dr. Stoy for her 5-minute opening remarks.

                                                                       STATEMENT OF LAURA STOY, FOUNDER AND CEO, RIVALIA
                                                                                        CHEMICAL CO.
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Chairman Williams, esteemed Member Scholten,
                                                                  Members of the committee, thank you so much for the opportunity
                                                                  to speak today. It is an honor to discuss this issue that is critical
                                                                  to the future of U.S. mining and materials, securing our critical
                                                                  mineral supply chains for national defense, technological innova-
                                                                  tion, and manufacturing strength.
                                                                     My name is Dr. Laura Stoy, and I am the CEO and founder of
                                                                  Rivalia Chemical Company. At Rivalia, we are pioneering new
                                                                  chemical extraction technologies to cover valuable rare earth ele-
                                                                  ments from industrial wastes, including coal fly ash and other coal
                                                                  combustion byproducts, phosphogypsum, acid mine drainage, and
                                                                  mine tailings. Our patent-pending process extracts rare earths
                                                                  from these materials and separates them from their major ele-
                                                                  ments in a single step. A significant challenge in traditional mining
                                                                  processing for rare earths. Using this method and by using wastes,




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                                                                  we can avoid the environmental and economic costs of mining while
                                                                  minimizing hazardous waste generation.
                                                                     The U.S. has approximately 2 million metric tons of rare earths
                                                                  and reserves. However, there is far more locked in our waste mate-
                                                                  rials. Researchers at UT Austin estimate that there are 11 million
                                                                  metric tons of rare earths and coal ash alone. Oak Ridge National
                                                                  Lab found millions of tons of rare earths in phosphogypsum. Duke
                                                                  University did research that found that abandoned mine drainage
                                                                  releases 500 to 3,400 tons of rare earths annually through acid
                                                                  mine drainage. These waste streams are often overlooked, but they
                                                                  present an opportunity to both recover rare earths and remediate
                                                                  environmental damage in local communities.
                                                                     There are currently no companies producing rare earths from
                                                                  waste at scale in the U.S. right now, though I will note to this com-
                                                                  mittee that there are many small businesses and startups address-
                                                                  ing this opportunity space.
                                                                     Rivalia’s focus is on mining rare earths from waste, but I want
                                                                  to emphasize that it is likely that this is just one component of a
                                                                  broader rare earth element supply chain along with traditional
                                                                  mining. Building a broader, more diverse supply chain for rare
                                                                  earths will make our system overall more resilient to disruption
                                                                  and manipulation by our adversaries.
                                                                     To achieve supply chain stabilization, the U.S. can’t only mine.
                                                                  We can’t mine our way out of this. We also need to separate, find,
                                                                  materialize, and produce the finished products—the permanent
                                                                  magnets.
                                                                     China’s dominance in rare earths comes from its control over this
                                                                  entire supply chain, which includes processing minerals both from
                                                                  its own mines and from international partners. To compete glob-
                                                                  ally, U.S. rare earth producers must have robust midstream proc-
                                                                  essing. This requires a skilled workforce, innovation, and efforts to
                                                                  derisk the market for private investors, especially given the price
                                                                  volatility caused by China’s outsized market influence. Our market
                                                                  also must be cost competitive. China has subsidized their supply
                                                                  chains, enabling their businesses to offer products at significantly
                                                                  lower costs. Competing with that will require American ingenuity
                                                                  and innovation to lower our production costs and make U.S. rare
                                                                  earths attractive to both customers and investors.
                                                                     I founded Rivalia after completing my PhD in environmental en-
                                                                  gineering at Georgia Tech, where I was fortunate enough to receive
                                                                  both government and private funding, the National Science Foun-
                                                                  dation’s Graduate Research Fellowship, as well as funding from
                                                                  Georgia Power, one of the major utilities in the Southeast. This
                                                                  funding allowed me to develop the core technology behind Rivalia.
                                                                     Since then, we participated in TechStars, a prestigious startup
                                                                  accelerator which included raising venture capital. This also al-
                                                                  lowed us to secure a future pilot with Southern Company. We have
                                                                  also raised non-dilutive funding through the National Science
                                                                  Foundation’s SBIR program, which is helping us to de-risk our
                                                                  technology and validate it with other materials. We also have ob-
                                                                  tained funding through the Department of Energy EnergyWerx
                                                                  Vouchers Program as well as the Department of Energy Lab-Em-
                                                                  bedded Entrepreneurship Program called LEAP. And through that,
                                                                  we have gained access to critical expertise and facilities at Argonne




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                                                                  National Lab. This support has been crucial to scaling our tech-
                                                                  nology and positioning it for high market impact.
                                                                     For hard tech startups like Rivalia and my colleagues here, gov-
                                                                  ernment funding is essential. It provides early-stage capital that is
                                                                  needed for high-risk project with immense potential but limited in-
                                                                  vestor interest. Government funding acts as a third-party valida-
                                                                  tion, attracting private capital and allowing us to make tangible
                                                                  progress on critical milestones. Hard tech ventures require signifi-
                                                                  cant upfront capital from prototyping, testing, and compliance, and
                                                                  without government support, companies like ours would face much
                                                                  greater challenges in bringing new game-changing technologies to
                                                                  market.
                                                                     The U.S. is at a critical juncture in securing its mineral future.
                                                                  We need to embrace innovation, leverage public and private fund-
                                                                  ing, and develop new technologies to ensure a robust and diverse
                                                                  critical supply chain here. Government support for startups like
                                                                  Rivalia are essential for maintaining U.S. leadership and tech-
                                                                  nology, national security, and economic competitive—competitive-
                                                                  ness.
                                                                     Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Gentlelady yields back. We will now move
                                                                  to the Member questions under the 5-minute rule, and I will recog-
                                                                  nize myself for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Throughout the Biden and Harris administration, the govern-
                                                                  ment has burdened small businesses with endless regulatory red
                                                                  tape. These regulations have slowed business-building projects and
                                                                  mining efforts. And I think we can all agree that we should get the
                                                                  government out of the way to let small businesses do what they do
                                                                  best. Now, Mr. Kaye, can you provide us with some examples of
                                                                  how the government has stood in your way?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. We have had these claims for better than 35 years.
                                                                  They—our approach is to do this with a great amount of environ-
                                                                  mental consciousness. Therefore, we deal with the U.S. Forest
                                                                  Service. The response many times is slow to get back. There has
                                                                  been a great amount of progress, however, recently with the advent
                                                                  of Fast-41. We have filed an application for that. And what it does
                                                                  is it holds the various agencies that are responsible for approvals
                                                                  to a very strict timetable.
                                                                     Our plan is to be able to extract from our deposit literally this
                                                                  year, to be able to, in effect, stand on the steps of the White House
                                                                  and or Congress with a bag of gallium rare earths that were found
                                                                  in Montana, processed with American technology, and available for
                                                                  the defense of this country and indeed the free world. So it is start-
                                                                  ing to change. And we are seeing the effect of that because there
                                                                  is now a recognition that there is an issue, and we can’t wait 15
                                                                  or 20 years to bring a deposit online. So we feel that things are get-
                                                                  ting much better, and for that, we are grateful.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Good. Let’s book that date, okay?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. Yep.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Domestic mining of rare earth elements
                                                                  and critical minerals faces numerous challenges, and one of which
                                                                  is that America has few known large deposits of pure rare earth
                                                                  elements. Despite these challenges, the United States is well posi-
                                                                  tioned to quickly build its rare earth refining capacity. So, Mr.




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                                                                  Dowd, can you please explain the innovative approach your com-
                                                                  pany has taken in the refining process and what impact those inno-
                                                                  vations have on the entire mining industry?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Thank you, Sir. We believe the enormous demand
                                                                  for non-Chinese rare earth supply will only be met with the re-
                                                                  imagining of innovative, nontraditional clean separation tech-
                                                                  nologies. Our processes have a significant advantage over existing
                                                                  separation technologies in an industry that has not seen much via-
                                                                  ble refining innovation in more than three-quarters of a century.
                                                                  Our technology significantly reduces the cost of producing rare
                                                                  earths from concentrate, be it from recycled material, rare earth
                                                                  elements, specific mining operations, or as a byproduct of a mining
                                                                  operation. Our patented processed capital expenditure and oper-
                                                                  ating expense are highly cost-competitive versus traditional rare
                                                                  earths refining. Our processing time from concentrate to first fin-
                                                                  ished products is days with very limited separation steps versus
                                                                  months and dozens of steps with solvent extraction. Rare Earth
                                                                  Salts provides an immediate opportunity to reestablish domestic
                                                                  commercial production. The capability of our technologies has been
                                                                  thoroughly validated.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Okay, thank you. And now, quickly in the
                                                                  time I have got left, rare earth mining extraction is a heavily regu-
                                                                  lated industry that we have talked about today. Well, rare earth
                                                                  mines must comply with a substantial number of regulations in-
                                                                  tended for traditional mines. Rare earth mines also must navigate
                                                                  Nuclear Regulatory Commission requirements. So Mr. Mushinski,
                                                                  how is your business dealing with this complicated web of regula-
                                                                  tions? How can it be simplified?
                                                                     Mr. MUSHINSKI. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do have a NRC
                                                                  possession license because as with most REE ore, it does have some
                                                                  naturally occurring thorium and uranium in it. So, we do have a
                                                                  license. That was quite a detailed and lengthy process. They, the
                                                                  NRC, did their own environmental assessment in addition to what
                                                                  is required by the EPA for a mine. It was costly, expensive and
                                                                  took a significant amount of time. We do have that license. That
                                                                  license is valid through 2027. However, we, like others, have a de-
                                                                  posit that is on National Forest Service. We also have invested and
                                                                  had various meetings with the permitting council and are pro-
                                                                  gressing toward Fast-41 permitting of our mine. That (Fast-41) is
                                                                  a much welcome improvement to the permitting process, and I will
                                                                  admit it is not a Trump administration policy, it is a previous ad-
                                                                  ministration that started Fast-41, but it is this administration that
                                                                  has advanced it into the mining sector. And we are very appre-
                                                                  ciative of that, and that is looked at as being helpful to our proc-
                                                                  essing.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Gentleman yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize the Ranking Member for her 5 minutes of ques-
                                                                  tioning.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Stoy, I am won-
                                                                  dering if you could just start out and elaborate on the recovery
                                                                  process Rivalia is developing. Talk to us about how you are getting
                                                                  these minerals out of waste.
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Absolutely. Thank you so much for the question. So
                                                                  Rivalia’s patent pending technology employs a recyclable ionic liq-




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                                                                  uid in a closed-loop process that selectively extracts rare earths
                                                                  from the starting material. So again, this starting material might
                                                                  be coal ash, bauxite residue, phosphogypsum, mining tailings, acid
                                                                  mine drainage magnets, for really any rare earth element-rich
                                                                  waste is in our realm. So, we have some physical separation proc-
                                                                  esses optimized to isolate higher rare earth element contained frac-
                                                                  tions within the original material. This helps improve our down-
                                                                  stream efficiency. And depending on the material we also might
                                                                  have some chemical pretty treatment steps.
                                                                     But our core innovation is that our method both extracts the rare
                                                                  earths from the starting material and does the separation from the
                                                                  bulk in one single step. We use this using—or we do this using pro-
                                                                  prietary chemistry to selectively bind with the rare earths while
                                                                  leaving most of the elements behind. This approach achieves higher
                                                                  selectivity than conventional acid leaching methods, reducing
                                                                  chemical consumption and waste generation. Following extraction,
                                                                  the chemical chemicals are recovered and recycled through the sys-
                                                                  tem, so they are ready for reuse, while the residuals are condi-
                                                                  tioned for beneficial use applications.
                                                                     We generate two valuable rare earth element product streams.
                                                                  Scandium oxide product, which is a valuable rare earth used in
                                                                  solid oxide fuel cells, high-performance aluminum alloys, and spe-
                                                                  cialized lighting applications. Second, we produce a mixed rare
                                                                  earth element concentrate containing multiple elements, including
                                                                  neodymium, cerium, lanthanum, terbium, europium, yttrium. All of
                                                                  these have significant roles in different applications that we have
                                                                  talked about already.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. Thank you. For my second question and stick-
                                                                  ing with you, Dr. Stoy, how much of the rare earth in existing
                                                                  products currently are we recycling?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Thank you for the question. To my knowledge, there
                                                                  is very limited recycling of rare earths in the U.S. I don’t know of
                                                                  any companies doing this at scale right now. For some products, it
                                                                  is fundamentally challenging to extract rare earths from them. You
                                                                  know, consider consumer electronics, you know, your cell phone,
                                                                  your laptop is not designed to easily pull the rare earth elements
                                                                  out. You also have to collect them from the consumers. And that
                                                                  is not trivial. This is the same for EV motors. Permanent magnets
                                                                  in the motors will need to recover those. Industrial wastes don’t
                                                                  have that kind of spatial distribution issue. In that way, they are
                                                                  almost more like a mine. But there is no one really recycling rare
                                                                  earths at this time.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. So, as a follow-up to that, can you describe the
                                                                  potential for recycling to add to the rare earths supply that we
                                                                  have here?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Yeah, absolutely.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. And be as specific as you can. I know it is not
                                                                  currently being done, so it is hard to sort of, you know, get into
                                                                  specifics. But in terms of percentages.
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Yeah, there is a lot of potential here. It is hard to
                                                                  quantify and be forward-looking here. There is a researcher at
                                                                  Ames National Lab in Iowa, Dr. Kenneth Nlebedim, and one of the
                                                                  things he suggested was in the next 10 years, more than 25 percent
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                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. Okay, very good. I agree with your comments
                                                                  about, you know, the pressing nature of this problem requiring a
                                                                  bit of an all of the above approach. Traditional mining, as well as
                                                                  recycling. How would you characterize added returns created by
                                                                  new mines individually, but as well as opposed to recycling or in
                                                                  contrast to recycling?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Yeah, I think all of the above is really the answer
                                                                  here. You know, we, right now, we have one active mine. Would it
                                                                  be helpful if we had more? I can imagine so, but it is hard to say,
                                                                  right? Is five new mines the new—is the right answer. 50? 500? At
                                                                  a certain point, we do reach diminishing returns. Frankly, you
                                                                  know, what all of these minds do really need is refining. And I
                                                                  know some of my colleagues here are talking about integrating that
                                                                  into their processes. And that midstream or refining, in my opin-
                                                                  ion, is much more important and a higher priority than opening a
                                                                  new mine. Because if we don’t have that refining capacity, we are
                                                                  sending our concentrate abroad for refining. And 99 percent of the
                                                                  time, that is going to be in China. We don’t have—we won’t have—
                                                                  you know, we could have dozens of mines, but if we are still send-
                                                                  ing the concentrate abroad, we haven’t solved the problem.
                                                                     Ms. SCHOLTEN. Okay, thank you. Very enlightening. I yield
                                                                  back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Gentlelady yields back. I now recognize
                                                                  Mr. Stauber from the great state of Minnesota for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. STAUBER. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. The develop-
                                                                  ment of America’s abundance of resources is critical, and rare earth
                                                                  minerals are of deep importance to me in my district. The Min-
                                                                  nesota’s 8th Congressional District holds the biggest untapped cop-
                                                                  per-nickel find in the world. The previous administration banned
                                                                  224,000 acres of it and took two leases away from a mining com-
                                                                  pany that they had since 1966. Just last week, Talon Metals in
                                                                  Tamarack, Minnesota, brought an exploratory drill section: 28 per-
                                                                  cent nickel. The highest in the world. I don’t know if you all knew
                                                                  that. Talon Metals, Northeastern Minnesota, drill hole, 28 percent
                                                                  nickel. Nowhere in the world can we do that? Northeastern Min-
                                                                  nesota is ready, able, and willing to deliver these critical minerals
                                                                  to this great nation for our strategic national security.
                                                                     I sit on the Natural Resources Committee. There was a Democrat
                                                                  witness when we were talking about mining. I said to her, I said,
                                                                  ‘‘You say it is too wet in Minnesota to mine. It is too dry in Arizona
                                                                  to mine. Where would you like us to mine?’’ And her answer, she
                                                                  said it out loud, ‘‘Nowhere.’’ We have an anti-mining political agen-
                                                                  da in this nation that is crippling our security, our strategic na-
                                                                  tional security. Northeastern Minnesota mines the iron ore that
                                                                  makes 82 percent of this nation’s steel that helped us win two
                                                                  world wars. And we continuously have to battle for these good
                                                                  union jobs in this town. The prior administration was the most
                                                                  anti-mining administration in the history of this country.
                                                                     We will follow all environmental and labor standards. Allow us
                                                                  to do so. And when we do that, we will bring the economic engine
                                                                  to our communities. We will bring good-paying jobs to the iron
                                                                  range of Northern Minnesota, which jobs start at $90,000 a year
                                                                  without overtime, health benefits, et cetera. The median household
                                                                  income for the district that I represent is under $74,000. One min-




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                                                                  ing job can make up for that. This is how important domestic min-
                                                                  ing is to our nation, to our strategic national security, to our econ-
                                                                  omy.
                                                                     And, ma’am, you are right. Recycling is part of it. That is part
                                                                  of the concern. And bring it on. But we are—the demand is so
                                                                  much more right now.
                                                                     There are 17 rare earth minerals, right? China just stopped sell-
                                                                  ing six of their critical rare earth minerals to the world. 15 of the
                                                                  19 industrial mines in the Congo are owned by the Chinese com-
                                                                  munist party, who use child slave labor. We can’t accept that any-
                                                                  more. We should never enter into a memorandum of understanding
                                                                  with the communist country of China for our rare earths. Never.
                                                                  Yet the past administration did.
                                                                     We have the opportunity to mine in this country. We can mine
                                                                  in Minnesota. We can mine in Alaska. We can mine in Utah. We
                                                                  can mine in Nevada. We can mine in California. We can mine in
                                                                  Washington. We can mine in Pennsylvania. And the list goes on
                                                                  and on. We have to have the political will to do it. It will be an
                                                                  economic boom for our communities. The jobs. What an opportunity
                                                                  do we have? Let’s not miss it. And it starts with all of us under-
                                                                  standing the importance of mining and the value that it can bring
                                                                  to our economy and our strategic national security, the state of
                                                                  Minnesota, and Northeastern Minnesota. I want you to understand
                                                                  the iron range and the Duluth complex, which is the copper, nickel,
                                                                  and cobalt—we have the opportunity to bring it to the nation.
                                                                     I am so proud of each and every one of you here to talk about
                                                                  this opportunity. Mr. Chair, we cannot miss this opportunity. Our
                                                                  nation is depending on it. Our small businesses are depending on
                                                                  it. Our strategic national security is depending on it, and our com-
                                                                  munities and our minors need it. And I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Gentleman yields back. I now recognize
                                                                  Ms. McIver from the great state of New Jersey for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Ms. MCIVER. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank
                                                                  you to our Ranking Member for convening this hearing today. I
                                                                  want to thank each witness for being here today with us.
                                                                     Critical minerals are the foundation of our national security and
                                                                  economic resilience. And we must ensure that Congress supports
                                                                  the responsible development, processing, and reuse of these essen-
                                                                  tial resources. Small businesses, from clean technology startups to
                                                                  equipment manufacturers to recycling innovators, are the engine of
                                                                  American creativity. They must be at the center of any National
                                                                  critical mineral strategy. That means leveling the playing field, en-
                                                                  suring fair access to capital, and providing consistent federal sup-
                                                                  port to help them compete with larger and often state-subsidized
                                                                  global players. We must continue to build on the historic invest-
                                                                  ments made through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the In-
                                                                  flation Reduction Act, not roll them back. These programs support
                                                                  responsible development, promote environmental innovation, and
                                                                  empower the small businesses driving the next generation of Amer-
                                                                  ican innovation. America’s energy future, security, and economic
                                                                  leadership depend on it.
                                                                     I have two questions, and these are both for Dr. Stoy. Some of
                                                                  my colleagues from across the aisle argued that repealing clean en-
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                                                                  and Inflation Reduction Act will save money for our nation and its
                                                                  small business owners. Can you speak about how repealing the in-
                                                                  vestments made under these laws will cost us in the critical min-
                                                                  eral—minerals industry?
                                                                    Ms. STOY. Absolutely. Thank you so much for the question. I
                                                                  will say I am not an expert on the Inflation Reduction Act. But my
                                                                  understanding is that, you know, as we seek to build out the entire
                                                                  supply chain in the U.S. as we seek to, you know, bolster manufac-
                                                                  turing, we need to have incentives all the way down the line, espe-
                                                                  cially given that we are dealing with a non-market player. The IRA
                                                                  includes many provisions that help bolster that. And if we cripple
                                                                  the end of the process by removing customer-consumer incentives,
                                                                  we are terminating the line. And ultimately, what that means is
                                                                  that our products will not end up being sold in the U.S. They won’t
                                                                  end up being refined in the U.S. They will go abroad.
                                                                    Ms. MCIVER. Thank you for that. Given how far behind we al-
                                                                  ready are in securing critical mineral supply chains, wouldn’t fur-
                                                                  ther funding rollbacks be a national security risk, in your opinion?
                                                                    Ms. STOY. Yes, I would agree with that.
                                                                    Ms. MCIVER. Thank you. With that, I yield back.
                                                                    Mr. MEUSER. [Presiding.] Gentlelady Yields back. I now recog-
                                                                  nize myself for 5 minutes.
                                                                    Folks, we have got a very serious discussion here. I think Mr.
                                                                  Kaye brought that out very well initially, and it is certainly being
                                                                  repeated over and over. So we got to figure out what we can do
                                                                  about it. Something tells me you all have some good ideas and per-
                                                                  haps a written plan, white paper, on what, not just what we need
                                                                  to do over the next 10 years, but even over the next 2 or 3 imme-
                                                                  diately, right? We have one mining company of rare earths ele-
                                                                  ments in the United States, MP in Southern California, one proc-
                                                                  essing refinery, I believe owned by MP. Now, China provides 70
                                                                  percent of the world’s rare earths. What are we doing, right? So
                                                                  this is a very important meeting, and hopefully, this is just the be-
                                                                  ginning.
                                                                    I have a bill, and frankly, looking at it now, I think this just
                                                                  scratches the surface offering for rare earth elements production,
                                                                  tax credits $9 within a ton—on a ton of coal for refuse, $20 per kg
                                                                  on REEs extracted and sold from coal, $3 tax credit per barrel on
                                                                  brine water that we are about to introduce and et cetera, a couple
                                                                  of others. Now, I am not sure that is going to do the trick. It might
                                                                  be a step in the right direction. Mr. Kaye, what are your thoughts
                                                                  on some of my comments here?
                                                                    Mr. KAYE. I think you hit the nail on the head. It goes this way.
                                                                  15 years it has taken for us to do nothing while the Chinese have
                                                                  dominated. They and their government have been extremely sup-
                                                                  portive of their ability to create world dominance in this. And it
                                                                  was part of a strategy because they think in that context.
                                                                    The first thing we need to think about is creating a stockpile.
                                                                  Why a stockpile? If we have a strategic oil reserve, then we need
                                                                  to have a strategic critical mineral reserve. What we intend to do,
                                                                  just to comment on it, is we intend to deliver a reasonable amount
                                                                  of gallium by the end of this year. That means that we will stock-
                                                                  pile the other rare earths, perhaps on a military base, which is part
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                                                                  military bases. We are in discussions regarding a project such as
                                                                  that today.
                                                                     Secondly, with a little bit of government support that Idaho Na-
                                                                  tional Labs has agreed that they can cut a year off the develop-
                                                                  ment of the plant that we are putting online. That will be a full-
                                                                  blown demonstration plant, at least 2 tons a day, and we can start
                                                                  delivering actual rare earths to our Defense Department, to various
                                                                  other. They talk about the Stargate project. We have allocated $500
                                                                  billion artificial intelligence, medical applications. Nobody has ever
                                                                  talked about medical. Well, guess what? You can’t have diagnostic
                                                                  equipment. You can’t have the new technologies that are coming
                                                                  out without rare earths.
                                                                     Mr. MEUSER. So let’s hear now, Mr. Mushinski, I am going to
                                                                  ask you on the type of tax credits, incentives, and regulatory re-
                                                                  form, some of your thoughts on what we need to do to springboard
                                                                  and blast off, if you will, or at least get off the ground.
                                                                     Mr. MUSHINSKI. Thank you, Congressman. For me and for
                                                                  RER, and I assume the other businesses here, it is market stability
                                                                  that is important. We have tried to start up businesses before, and
                                                                  the Chinese are very aware. The Chinese are very smart people.
                                                                  They can flood the market and deplete prices and drive us out of
                                                                  business. You will recall that even MP, Mountain Pass, at the time,
                                                                  was driven into bankruptcy by that exact point. So, I agree a stra-
                                                                  tegic stockpile is important. This is a nascent industry in the
                                                                  United States, and the companies here, mine included, need a foot-
                                                                  hold. We are not looking for the government to give us a complete
                                                                  handout. We need a foothold so that we can get investors. So that
                                                                  we can have bankable contracts. So that we can go to capital mar-
                                                                  kets and have a business plan that they don’t have to be concerned
                                                                  about market manipulation.
                                                                     Mr. MEUSER. All right, quickly, Ms. Stoy, do you agree?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Yes, absolutely. The thing that I talk to when I talk
                                                                  to investors is they say, well, what about China? What about the
                                                                  market? Like for me to deliver a 5-year financial plan, I need to
                                                                  have pricing information, and we have an opaque market with non-
                                                                  market players on non-exchange traded metals.
                                                                     Mr. MEUSER. Well, as I opened with, this is very, very impor-
                                                                  tant. Perhaps rather than call it the Manhattan Project, as I am
                                                                  from Pennsylvania, we will call it something other, maybe the
                                                                  Pennsylvania Project. But we look forward to continued conversa-
                                                                  tions very much so. Thank you. I yield back.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Tran from California for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. TRAN. Thank you so much, Chairman. Welcome, witnesses.
                                                                  Thank you for being here. Dr. Stoy, in 2024, the Select Committee
                                                                  on China released a bipartisan report revealing that the Chinese
                                                                  communist government supplies over 50 percent of the U.S. de-
                                                                  mand for 24 critical minerals, including 90 percent of rare earth
                                                                  elements. The report also emphasized that advanced recycling tech-
                                                                  nologies offer a scalable solution to strengthen the domestic supply
                                                                  chain for these minerals and reduce our reliance on China. How-
                                                                  ever, the Trump administration has reduced staffing in the Depart-
                                                                  ment of Energy’s loan and R&D programs, the various resources
                                                                  needed to help reduce U.S. dependence on China for critical min-
                                                                  erals. In fact, over 77 billion in funding at the Department of En-




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                                                                  ergy remains frozen. How does that affect their capacity to invest
                                                                  and award contracts to businesses like yours, Dr. Stoy?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Thank you so much for the question. This is some-
                                                                  thing that I think about very often is how, you know, to fund, you
                                                                  know, the—the projects that we will be building, the projects that
                                                                  we will be financing. These will take high amounts of capital. The
                                                                  Department of Energy has been instrumental in putting together
                                                                  different loan offices, different programs for startups like mine and
                                                                  many others. Without staff at these agencies, they are not able to
                                                                  do their jobs. They are not able to evaluate loans. It is a huge prob-
                                                                  lem for me, especially as I go out to investors, to say, here is my
                                                                  plan for building a facility. You know, I am going to use this con-
                                                                  tracting agency, this loan office. If they are not considered reliable,
                                                                  then my plan is no longer reliable. Thank you.
                                                                     Mr. TRAN. And are you concerned that these cuts would cede
                                                                  America’s global STEM leadership to the PRC?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Absolutely. I mean, one thing I also think about a lot
                                                                  is the training that comes from loans just like these. You know,
                                                                  China has, I think, 80 universities dedicated to mineral processing
                                                                  and mining. We don’t have any. You know, if we are serious about
                                                                  building talent, the talent that we need to run our businesses, we
                                                                  need to have those funding agencies in place.
                                                                     Mr. TRAN. Yeah. In fact, President Trump’s proposed cutting of
                                                                  the National Science Foundation staff by half and reducing its
                                                                  grants awards, which would threaten the agency’s ability to fund
                                                                  critical R&D nationwide and further advantage the PRC’s techno-
                                                                  logical competition with the U.S.
                                                                     Mr. Chairman, I asked for unanimous consent to insert an R&D
                                                                  World article about the impacts of the proposal and existing Trump
                                                                  cuts into the record.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. So moved.
                                                                     Mr. TRAN. Thank you.
                                                                     Next question goes to Mr. Dowd. In September 2024, your com-
                                                                  pany received a 4.2 million contract from the Department of De-
                                                                  fense to expand domestic production of rare earth element terbium,
                                                                  one of the most difficult to obtain rare earth elements from recycled
                                                                  fluorescent light bulbs. Can you explain how important government
                                                                  contract like this one are to your business?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Yeah, absolutely. You know, when we talk about
                                                                  government support and kind of step back, big picture, you know,
                                                                  35 years ago, the leader of China said that rare earths are going
                                                                  to be to China what oil is to the Middle East. And that is before
                                                                  this electrified world that we live in today, right? And so the gov-
                                                                  ernment of China really instigated a deliberate industrial policy to
                                                                  systematically capture this market and the U.S. and the rest of the
                                                                  world now have to turn on all across the supply chain, mine to
                                                                  metal, so that we are no longer reliant upon China for the sources
                                                                  of material in any way. And that is not going to happen overnight.
                                                                  Obviously, that is going to take a decade or two or more. That is
                                                                  exactly what China has done. But it really needs necessary long-
                                                                  term policy that will transcend administrations, Republican and
                                                                  Democrat.
                                                                     And specifically to us, terbium is only otherwise produced in
                                                                  China. We are the only other company in the world producing ter-




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                                                                  bium. The Department of Defense award allowed us to be able to
                                                                  scale up and produce what is necessary for military applications,
                                                                  for the U.S. government in the defense sector.
                                                                     Mr. TRAN. That is amazing. And you would agree that it is im-
                                                                  portant for us to continue federal investments in promoting recy-
                                                                  cling and a circular economy for these critical minerals, yes?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. I think turning on mining, recycling all sources of
                                                                  material is vital for the future of the country.
                                                                     Mr. TRAN. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Finstad from the great state of Minnesota
                                                                  for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. FINSTAD. Thank you, Chairman Williams. Thank you for
                                                                  holding this important hearing today, and thank you to the wit-
                                                                  nesses for being here. As a Member of this Committee and then
                                                                  also on the House Armed Services Committee, I am excited to have
                                                                  you here today to discuss the important role critical minerals play
                                                                  in our national security interests and our overall economy in this
                                                                  country.
                                                                     The state of Minnesota is home to a large majority of our nation’s
                                                                  domestic critical mineral reserves, including nickel, cobalt, plat-
                                                                  inum, and copper. And after hearing Congressman Stauber’s com-
                                                                  ments, I used to think his roads were paved in gold, but I guess
                                                                  they are going to be paved in nickel here now soon up in Northern
                                                                  Minnesota. Those Minnesota grown companies have been unable to
                                                                  renew their federal leases due to both the Obama and Biden ad-
                                                                  ministrations pulling the rug out from underneath them and put-
                                                                  ting up roadblocks.
                                                                     So, with that being said, Mr. Kaye, the United States has the
                                                                  strictest environmental and labor standards in the world, yet we
                                                                  have become reliant on China and other adversarial nations to con-
                                                                  trol a large majority of the world’s global supply chain. In your ex-
                                                                  perience, what environmental and labor standards do these coun-
                                                                  tries have in place for their operations?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. They are very supportive of their homegrown indus-
                                                                  tries and China particularly has been extremely robust in making
                                                                  it easy for it to happen. I believe that now it is an all-hands-on-
                                                                  deck approach for this. It is regulatory, it is, as my colleagues have
                                                                  said, support for the offtake agreements. We are in discussions
                                                                  with multiple country companies both in the defense industry and
                                                                  the automotive industry for supply even if it takes 3, 4, 5 years to
                                                                  come on stream.
                                                                     So what we would need is, as everyone has said, we need support
                                                                  so that China cannot manipulate the price. We need fast tracking
                                                                  to permit. Even Mountain Pass is partially owned by the Chinese.
                                                                  Even some of their concentrate is shipped to China to be processed.
                                                                  That can’t be good.
                                                                     So it is, I believe, public-private partnerships. I believe it is regu-
                                                                  latory relief. You know, as one of my colleagues said, unchain us
                                                                  and let American entrepreneurialship, let us do what we know how
                                                                  to do. And it is always now with an environmental concern because
                                                                  the environment is sensitive. But the pendulum has switched too
                                                                  far to that side. It can’t take 29 years.




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                                                                     Mr. FINSTAD. So, Mr. Kaye, just as a follow up, just to be very
                                                                  clear, so our strictest in the world environmental standards, our
                                                                  state-of-the-art best that can be labor standards in this country,
                                                                  China isn’t competing at that same level, correct?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. Absolutely not.
                                                                     Mr. FINSTAD. Okay. So to my colleagues here, I mean, I guess
                                                                  the question we have to ask ourselves, are we content putting our
                                                                  head in the sand and pretending that they are playing by the same
                                                                  rules? And the answer is no. And so it is incumbent upon us and
                                                                  our government to do better in this area.
                                                                     I would like to move on to Mr. Dowd. My constituents would
                                                                  rather rely on our neighbors in northern Minnesota, heck, even Ne-
                                                                  braska, to extract and refine these minerals for our domestic sup-
                                                                  ply chain. We trust our neighbors. We can have a healthy discus-
                                                                  sion about environmental standards, labor standards, and then we
                                                                  can, through our government and through our policy and through
                                                                  our process, make sure those standards are met. And we can do
                                                                  that face to face, neighbor to neighbor.
                                                                     Given your experience operating and innovating in this space,
                                                                  what are the biggest challenges preventing American companies
                                                                  right now from leading the world in critical mineral development?
                                                                  And a lot of times we in this Committee, you know, people will
                                                                  come and say, well, it is the regulations or it is this or it is that.
                                                                  If you were to leave here today and say, I got this off my chest,
                                                                  here is the four or five things that this Committee and this Con-
                                                                  gress can help us do, what is it?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Thank you, sir. You know, it is, as I said earlier,
                                                                  China, 35 years ago, said that rare earths are to China what oil
                                                                  is to the Middle East, and that is before this electrified world we
                                                                  live in today. We are literally in the infancy of this industry. It was
                                                                  referenced, perhaps a Rockefeller moment, where this is oil 100
                                                                  years ago. I think that is absolutely to be true.
                                                                     China controls this industry, one, because they made it a delib-
                                                                  erate policy, but, two, the Chinese government subsidizes the in-
                                                                  dustry, so there is no ability for this country to be able to compete
                                                                  on level ground if our government is not also part of that equation.
                                                                     Mr. FINSTAD. My time is up here. I would just say this, we are
                                                                  ripe for critical minerals permitting reform 2.0 in our country. Let’s
                                                                  reimagine the next 50 years and not try to fix broken policies of
                                                                  the last hundred.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman’s time is up.
                                                                     Mr. FINSTAD. I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Olszewski from the great state of Maryland
                                                                  for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. OLSZEWSKI. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank
                                                                  you to our witnesses for joining us today. I appreciate the oppor-
                                                                  tunity to discuss America’s economic and technological growth
                                                                  alongside the need for a stable supply of critical minerals.
                                                                     In addition to my service here, I am honored to serve on the
                                                                  House Foreign Affairs Committee and in the Africa Subcommittee
                                                                  in particular, where we have recently also discussed the need to
                                                                  support Africa’s critical mineral sector as a driver for economic
                                                                  growth. We know that this conversation must also include con-




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                                                                  versations about support for families, children, and local commu-
                                                                  nities. These are groups that are often exploited through forced
                                                                  labor and small-scale informal mines across the continent, often in
                                                                  deadly work environments.
                                                                     So I am concerned both about the action of this administration
                                                                  working to dismantle the National Institute of Occupational Health
                                                                  and Safety in terms of our own safety in that work here in Amer-
                                                                  ica. I also know that we are currently facing a fairly chaotic land-
                                                                  scape from a President who has unilaterally enacted tariffs on
                                                                  nearly every import from every country. These tariffs affect 35 of
                                                                  the 50 critical minerals that we discussed today, which raises
                                                                  prices for American businesses and consumers and causes higher
                                                                  prices for mining and for refinery equipment.
                                                                     The reality is that this is an important conversation, but we can-
                                                                  not only mine our way out for reliable and ethical critical mineral
                                                                  supply chain. So I look forward to working with all of you in the
                                                                  years ahead, as well as my colleagues on this critical issue, while
                                                                  doing so not backtracking on issues like workers’ rights and protec-
                                                                  tions and removing some of the barriers to our success.
                                                                     To that point, I have two quick questions. One is on tariffs and
                                                                  one is on grants. I will start with you, Dr. Stoy. According to the
                                                                  U.S. Geological Service, the U.S. has little to no reserves for many
                                                                  critical materials. So obviously, as we discussed, we are trading to
                                                                  acquire them. Can you talk a little bit about how tariffs affect our
                                                                  ability to buy them from abroad?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Absolutely. Thank you so much for the question.
                                                                     I am not an expert on tariffs. I am not an economist. But what
                                                                  I can say is that when I look for investors, when mining companies
                                                                  globally look for investors, investors are looking for stable markets.
                                                                  They are looking for stable capital. Refiners that I think personally
                                                                  is the most important thing right now beyond just mining, you
                                                                  know, to build up these facilities, we need stable markets. And tar-
                                                                  iffs, I think, pose issues to that. And consistent pricing is impor-
                                                                  tant. We have talked about a lot of different levers that the govern-
                                                                  ment can use here, you know, stockpiles, ensuring price floors.
                                                                  There is different things we can use here, but all of them can be
                                                                  negatively impacted by tariffs.
                                                                     Mr. OLSZEWSKI. I appreciate that, and I want to make sure I
                                                                  have it right. As a fellow ‘‘ski,’’ is it Mr. Minishski?
                                                                     Mr. MUSHINSKI. Mushinski.
                                                                     Mr. OLSZEWSKI. Mushinski, Olszewski. We got it. Okay. I ap-
                                                                  preciated your testimony and your calls for unlocking grants for
                                                                  commercialization efforts. I think that is critically important as one
                                                                  way to increase capital access for this work. So I just want to, I
                                                                  guess, pose to you, would you be concerned if very large grant mak-
                                                                  ers, and in particular, thinking about the federal government,
                                                                  right, if we froze our grants and other funding sources, that cer-
                                                                  tainly would be a challenge to that and would erase some of the
                                                                  capital landscape? Is that a fair assessment?
                                                                     Mr. MUSHINSKI. Of course.
                                                                     Mr. OLSZEWSKI. Yeah. And so, yeah, just to that point, to my
                                                                  colleagues, we are seeing a lot of the dismantling of these kinds of
                                                                  programs, not just in this space, but across the government. And
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                                                                  to find ways that here and in other spaces that I think the federal
                                                                  government actually does have a key role to play in spurring inno-
                                                                  vation, safety, and success in the private sector.
                                                                     And so, again, I want to just thank our witnesses to today, Mr.
                                                                  Chairman, for their insights and their wisdom. Look forward to
                                                                  working with them and you and our colleagues in the years ahead.
                                                                     And with that, I will yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentlemen yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Bresnahan from the great state of Pennsyl-
                                                                  vania for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. BRESNAHAN. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and to the Rank-
                                                                  ing Member, for holding today’s hearing, and especially to the wit-
                                                                  nesses for taking time out to come and testify today.
                                                                     Securing our supply chains for rare earth minerals and other
                                                                  critical resources is not just an economic priority. It is a matter of
                                                                  national security. These materials are essential components in a
                                                                  wide range of technologies, from smartphones to electric vehicles
                                                                  and advanced defense systems. Yet, despite their importance, the
                                                                  United States has fallen behind over other nations, particularly
                                                                  China, in both the mining and refining of these vital resources.
                                                                  China’s dominant position in these supply chains have given them
                                                                  significant leverage on the global stage, leverage that can threaten
                                                                  our economic competitiveness and our security. To address this
                                                                  challenge, we must bring about commonsense permitting reform
                                                                  that allows us to responsibly develop these resources here at home.
                                                                     My district lies within the Marcellus Shale region in Pennsyl-
                                                                  vania. Fracking has been a key driver of our country’s energy domi-
                                                                  nance and Pennsylvania’s economic growth for the last 20 years.
                                                                  But fracking can potentially deliver more than just oil and gas. Re-
                                                                  cent studies by the National Energy Technology Laboratory have
                                                                  found that the water used in fracking can unlock up to 1,160 met-
                                                                  ric tons of lithium. That is almost 40 percent of the current de-
                                                                  mand for lithium, which is 3,000 metric tons per year. This is com-
                                                                  parable to the lithium produced in the brine ponds in Chile, the
                                                                  world’s second largest lithium producer.
                                                                     In Wayne County in my district, there is roughly $1 billion of
                                                                  natural gas deposits that we cannot tap into because of governors
                                                                  in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, and Delaware have
                                                                  banned it based on some science and under pressure from some en-
                                                                  vironmental activists. If our country is going to reduce emissions
                                                                  and have a cleaner grid, we need these rare earth minerals like
                                                                  lithium to achieve these goals.
                                                                     Sadly, the prior administration stifled their own green energy
                                                                  goals with overregulation by trying to ban natural gas exports, try-
                                                                  ing to ban fracking, the IRA’s methane tax, and use of ESG’s
                                                                  metrics and investments, and not approving pipelines quickly
                                                                  enough. Instead of American energy powered by clean American
                                                                  fuel sources and rare earth minerals processed under the American
                                                                  environmental standards, we have been forced to rely on Chinese
                                                                  imports, which are produced under horrendous environments and
                                                                  labor conditions.
                                                                     Our goal must be to provide essential raw materials that fuel our
                                                                  economy, support our national defense, empower the innovative
                                                                  technologies of tomorrow. We can, we must, and uphold our com-




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                                                                  mitment to environmental stewardship while advancing economic
                                                                  growth. The false choice between economic progress and protecting
                                                                  our environment has held us back far too long.
                                                                     With that, I am going to start with my first question to Mr.
                                                                  Dowd. I want to echo on Mr. Finstad’s questions a little bit earlier.
                                                                  If you can point to just one specific action that Congress can deploy
                                                                  to help us in the progress, would it be towards workforce develop-
                                                                  ment? Would it be permitting? Would it be regulation? If you can
                                                                  point to just one thing, and you had mentioned China in the prior
                                                                  answer, but is there anything else beyond China that we can be of
                                                                  assistance with?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Yeah, as a rare earth element separation company,
                                                                  at least the way we do, how we do our refining, there is no regu-
                                                                  latory or regulation that is permitting us from doing what we are
                                                                  doing. The workforce is really not a challenge where we are, fortu-
                                                                  nately. I would say the big thing is continuing, as the government
                                                                  has through the Department of Defense and Department of Energy,
                                                                  funding companies like us to boost the defense industrial base to
                                                                  have the capability and the capacity in this country to compete
                                                                  with China.
                                                                     Mr. BRESNAHAN. What do you mean ‘‘funding’’? Is that through
                                                                  grant processes? Is that through R&D? What kind of funding do
                                                                  you reference?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Yeah, sure. Our company has received a handful of
                                                                  grants and awards over the last handful of years, which have really
                                                                  furthered us to where we are today. The Congressman earlier men-
                                                                  tioned we received a Defense Production Act through the Depart-
                                                                  ment of Defense for $8.67 million back in September. That really
                                                                  enabled us to be able to produce terbium, which cannot be found
                                                                  anywhere else in the world other than China.
                                                                     Mr. BRESNAHAN. So why is that the responsibility of the Amer-
                                                                  ican taxpayer to provide economic grants to a company like yours?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Yeah, I think it is a real question for the Committee
                                                                  or for the country in terms of the responsibility of government to
                                                                  help fund what is necessary to be able to have this capability in
                                                                  this country. And I think if the government does not compete,
                                                                  given that the Chinese government is subsidizing the industry, we
                                                                  will be fully reliant on China for rare earths for a long period of
                                                                  time. And that is obviously a geopolitical supply chain issue.
                                                                     Mr. BRESNAHAN. My time has expired. I yield.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Ms. Goodlander from the great state of New
                                                                  Hampshire for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Ms. GOODLANDER. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you
                                                                  to our witnesses for being here today for this important hearing.
                                                                     You have each testified that the rare earth challenge is a really
                                                                  critical one to our national security. Our supply chain vulnerability
                                                                  is core to addressing, to keep our country safe. But it is also an ex-
                                                                  traordinary opportunity that small businesses across our country
                                                                  are seizing. And I am seeing it all across my home state of New
                                                                  Hampshire.
                                                                     What I would say is our hearing today, the title of the hearing
                                                                  today, I note is ‘‘Securing America’s Mineral Future: Unlocking the
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                                                                  more than just beneath our feet. And I saw this firsthand in vis-
                                                                  iting an extraordinary service-disabled, veteran-owned small busi-
                                                                  ness in the Monadnock Region of my state that more than 6 years
                                                                  ago predicted that we would have a germanium crisis in this coun-
                                                                  try. Germanium is used, as many of you know, in high-speed com-
                                                                  puter chips, plastics, and a wide range of military applications from
                                                                  night vision devices to satellite imagery sensors.
                                                                     My constituents started a company, they self-funded the research
                                                                  and development costs of a cost-effective, ecofriendly germanium
                                                                  recycling effort and they began production. They have encountered
                                                                  a lot of challenges in getting the support that they need for small
                                                                  businesses to actually tackle this. And I wanted to ask you, Mr.
                                                                  Dowd, can you speak to your experience?
                                                                     I also serve on the Armed Services Committee and, knock on
                                                                  wood, we are going to have a National Defense Authorization Act
                                                                  this year where we have an opportunity to really take a look at
                                                                  ways in which we can improve the way that the Department of De-
                                                                  fense does business with small businesses in our country. Can you
                                                                  speak to your experience contracting with the Department of De-
                                                                  fense and what challenges you encountered?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. Yeah, our experience with the Department of De-
                                                                  fense and, specifically, receiving funding through the Defense Pro-
                                                                  duction Act has really been incredibly positive. I really don’t have
                                                                  a negative thing to say about that.
                                                                     Ms. GOODLANDER. Really?
                                                                     Mr. DOWD. I can only speak from the award that we are cur-
                                                                  rently in and our experience in receiving that award in the last
                                                                  year.
                                                                     Ms. GOODLANDER. Dr. Stoy, could you tell us a little bit about
                                                                  the challenges you have encountered in contracting with the fed-
                                                                  eral government and getting the kind of investment that small
                                                                  businesses like yours need to bring us to the next generation of re-
                                                                  cycling critical minerals?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Absolutely. My experience has largely been very posi-
                                                                  tive in applying for funding. I will say there were—there have been
                                                                  a handful of Department of Energy grants that required really an
                                                                  extensive amount of paperwork for small businesses to apply. As
                                                                  an example, I think there was a grant that was for $500,000, which
                                                                  is not—it is a sizable amount of money, but not huge, that I think
                                                                  I ended up writing, you know, 100 pages of content for on, you
                                                                  know, economic development. And, you know, 500K for a 3-year
                                                                  grant is not really enough money to have an outsized impact on,
                                                                  you know, your local community. So I think there are ways to
                                                                  streamline grant processes that would make it easier for small
                                                                  businesses to take advantage of.
                                                                     Ms. GOODLANDER. Well, we welcome any and all ideas that
                                                                  you have on this front. We are all about cracking down on waste,
                                                                  fraud, and abuse, and making it easier for small businesses like
                                                                  yours. Just note that the funding cuts that we have seen across our
                                                                  federal government have made it very difficult for these important
                                                                  programs to reach their intended small business recipients.
                                                                     I want to ask you about the impact of the President’s unilateral
                                                                  trade wars, which have impacted 35 of 50 critical minerals, 10 of
                                                                  16 rare earth elements. You have each spoken to just the time that




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                                                                  it takes to build up our domestic manufacturing base. Many on our
                                                                  Committee have supported an exemption for small businesses. But
                                                                  I wanted to ask you to the President’s unilateral tariffs because
                                                                  they threatened to put so many essential small businesses out of
                                                                  business. I want to ask you about the uncertainty that you are see-
                                                                  ing across the industry and the markets and the customers who
                                                                  you work with in this moment of absolute uncertainty for our coun-
                                                                  try.
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Yeah, you know, customers, investors, everyone is
                                                                  looking for stability and these tariffs add uncertainty. One of the
                                                                  big things—I have been a little bit insulated because I have been
                                                                  housed at Argonne National Lab, which has been a tremendous op-
                                                                  portunity that—you know, it is a very small program. There is
                                                                  maybe five innovators per year. This is not—it is not a big enough
                                                                  program for many small businesses to benefit from that if they
                                                                  have to buy their own equipment. I mean, I am deeply impressed
                                                                  that someone from your state was able to self-fund a recycling
                                                                  project. So I think that that is something that we need to work on
                                                                  is adding that stability.
                                                                     Ms. GOODLANDER. Thank you. I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentlelady yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Downing from the great state of Montana for
                                                                  5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. DOWNING. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the
                                                                  witnesses. I come from Montana, the Treasure State. If you want
                                                                  it, we can probably grow it or mine it or produce it. So we are
                                                                  blessed with incredible reserves in critical minerals.
                                                                     So I am going to start in my backyard with Mr. Kaye. You are
                                                                  on the front lines of critical minerals discovery and extraction in
                                                                  Montana. Your company, U.S. Critical Materials, is set to develop
                                                                  the Sheep Creek site in Ravalli County into a major producer of
                                                                  rare earth elements. In your testimony, you note the remarkable
                                                                  nature of the mineral concentrations at the Sheep Creek site. Can
                                                                  you explain to us more about the unique abundance of rare earth
                                                                  elements at the site?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. Thank you for your question. We have concentrations
                                                                  that range about 9 percent and in some cases higher. That means
                                                                  as a comparative to Mountain Pass, they average about 5 percent.
                                                                  It literally, as confirmed by Activation Labs, the blue chip lab for
                                                                  evaluating purity of the product, and Idaho National Labs who did
                                                                  extensive work in our (phonetic 25:29) ore, which, by the way, is
                                                                  very low in thorium and very high in grade. That means we are
                                                                  below the standards required to seek nuclear regulatory authority,
                                                                  which is a boon to us in being able to get our product online quick-
                                                                  ly.
                                                                     It is an extraordinary deposit because it is carbonatites. And
                                                                  carbonatites, geologically, 150 million years ago have come up from
                                                                  the earth, have penetrated through dikes and fissures and have ex-
                                                                  tended above the surface within just three adits, which are hori-
                                                                  zontal tunnels that have been drilled into the side of the mountain
                                                                  35 years ago, there are 62 carbonatites. We have sampled them all.
                                                                  They all show mineralization down at depth. And there is a theory
                                                                  going right now that we are working to prove this summer that
                                                                  there is a continuous source that lies below. So while——




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                                                                    Mr. DOWNING. Hey, just in the interest of time, the critical,
                                                                  and I appreciate that, the critical minerals mined at Sheep Creek
                                                                  support—how do they support the manufacturing of technologies
                                                                  critical to national security?
                                                                    Mr. KAYE. The answer to that is samarium, which is not found
                                                                  in the United States. We have an abundant supply. Gallium,
                                                                  which, as mentioned earlier, has 3,800 military uses. The Chinese
                                                                  have banned it to export about a year ago. We have 180 to 380
                                                                  parts per million. We are working with Idaho National Labs now.
                                                                  We expect that we will be able to extract gallium and be able to
                                                                  present it for the use of this country within this year.
                                                                    Mr. DOWNING. So on that note, how are small businesses
                                                                  uniquely positioned to initiate American critical mineral independ-
                                                                  ence from China?
                                                                    Mr. KAYE. We have the entrepreneurial spirit that has grown
                                                                  this country. We are entrepreneurs. We understand risk-reward
                                                                  and we have the attitude of it has to happen, we will make it hap-
                                                                  pen. And with the support of the regulatory authorities, state gov-
                                                                  ernment, and the like, it will occur.
                                                                    Mr. DOWNING. Thank you, sir. In my district, we have experi-
                                                                  enced firsthand the difficulties of competing with mineral dumping
                                                                  by foreign adversaries. The Sibanye Stillwater Mine in Stillwater
                                                                  County is the United States’ only platinum and palladium mine.
                                                                  Unfortunately, Russia’s dumping of cheap minerals into the inter-
                                                                  national market forced the Sibanye Stillwater owners of the mine
                                                                  to scale back its operations and lay off 700 workers at the end of
                                                                  last year.
                                                                    I am going to move to Mr. Mushinski. In your testimony, you
                                                                  outline how your company, Rare Element Resources, experienced
                                                                  similar hardships from Chinese dumping. Can you elaborate on to
                                                                  what degree you believe this dumping effort by Chinese producers
                                                                  was coordinated and deliberate?
                                                                    Mr. MUSHINSKI. I think it was 100 percent coordinated and
                                                                  100 percent deliberate. If you go back to the 2016 timeframe, when
                                                                  there were restrictions on—I am sorry, it may not be before 2016,
                                                                  the Chinese deliberately put restrictions on exports of rare earths.
                                                                  That spiked the price. As with any mining business, when the price
                                                                  goes up, the exploration goes up, the technology goes up, and it is
                                                                  a continuous curve.
                                                                    The mining companies, Mountain Pass at the time, took off.
                                                                  Their stock went over $100 a share. A mere 4 years later, the Chi-
                                                                  nese absolutely flooded the market. The prices cratered, Mountain
                                                                  Pass went bankrupt. That is when our company almost went bank-
                                                                  rupt in the middle of our permitting process.
                                                                    Mr. DOWNING. Unfortunately, I have run out of time. Mr.
                                                                  Chair, I yield.
                                                                    Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman yields back.
                                                                    I recognize Mr. Cisneros from the great state of California for 5
                                                                  minutes.
                                                                    Mr. CISNEROS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
                                                                    As a Member of the House Armed Services Committee and pre-
                                                                  viously serving at the Department of Defense, I deeply care about
                                                                  our national security. And I understand and agree with the impor-
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                                                                  the small businesses helping address this vital need. However, this
                                                                  hearing is not focused on what we can actually do to help these
                                                                  small businesses, but rather it is another attempt to infomercial
                                                                  the President’s agenda to deregulate.
                                                                    The House Natural Resource Committee already had a hearing
                                                                  on domestic mining for U.S. national security on February 6. The
                                                                  House Energy and Commerce Committee already had a hearing on
                                                                  enhancing our critical mineral supply chains on May 21. If we want
                                                                  to stretch the bounds of the House Small Business Committee to
                                                                  also talk about critical minerals, let’s talk about federal funding op-
                                                                  portunities like the small business research grants that help com-
                                                                  panies like Rivalia. This hearing is not talking about SBA pro-
                                                                  grams to help these small businesses. It is not talking about fund-
                                                                  ing from other agencies for these small businesses. It is not diving
                                                                  into federal contracting to support these businesses. I urge my col-
                                                                  leagues to engage with us in meaningful discussions on how to bet-
                                                                  ter support small business, not just rubber stamp an agenda.
                                                                    So, Ms. Stoy, could you kind of go into detail a little bit more
                                                                  about SBIR, how it helped you get started, and really the impor-
                                                                  tance of programs like this to encourage investment in other busi-
                                                                  nesses like yours that could help, like you said, recycle these min-
                                                                  erals instead of them just going to waste after they have been
                                                                  used?
                                                                    Ms. STOY. Absolutely. You know, I founded Rivalia using a
                                                                  blend of government funding, SBIR funding, and private venture
                                                                  capital. I think, you know, to prove that you should be a company
                                                                  in the market, you need to have that kind of buy-on from, you
                                                                  know, a private group. But, you know, programs like the SBIR help
                                                                  front load some of the high capital costs that come with hard tech
                                                                  startups. I mean, we are all in mining. You know, this requires
                                                                  equipment, this requires labs, this requires resources.
                                                                    The SBIR program has been incredibly helpful to me. There is
                                                                  also some programs offered alongside the SBIR program, including
                                                                  a business boot camp where they help you do customer discovery,
                                                                  engage with your customers and the partners. You know, we are
                                                                  dealing with very complex supply chains here. And learning how
                                                                  to have those conversations was something I learned through the
                                                                  NSF SBIR program.
                                                                    The Chain Reactions Innovations Program that I am a part of at
                                                                  Argonne National Lab, the LEAP program is also, I think, incred-
                                                                  ibly useful as a tool to help small businesses access resources that
                                                                  they otherwise wouldn’t have access to.
                                                                    Mr. CISNEROS. Thank you very much for that. And again, I
                                                                  think the importance of research and funding these grants in order
                                                                  to help small businesses like yours get started is of vital impor-
                                                                  tance and something that we should be discussing today more than
                                                                  about how regulation is getting in the way.
                                                                    Mr. Mushinski, hopefully I said that right, I hear your company
                                                                  is exploring training and education programs with universities in
                                                                  conjunction with the Bear Lodge Project. Can you speak to the im-
                                                                  portance of a strong STEM workforce in career and technical edu-
                                                                  cation programs for projects like that?
                                                                    Mr. MUSHINSKI. Thank you for the question. We do, we cur-
                                                                  rently have three interns from the University of Wyoming and




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                                                                  South Dakota, the School of Mines, which is dedicated to minerals
                                                                  and mining. And we live—our process and our facility is in a very
                                                                  small town of Upton, Wyoming, 800-and-something people. We are
                                                                  relatively close to other population centers. But the ability to re-
                                                                  cruit STEM employees is difficult in that area and that is a very
                                                                  important issue for us. Where do we locate our final plant because
                                                                  of those issues?
                                                                     We fortunately live in a very pro mining state, which is Wyo-
                                                                  ming. And the governor and the University of Wyoming and all the
                                                                  Members within that legislation are very supportive to us. You
                                                                  know, it is junior colleges, it is colleges, it is technical trades. A
                                                                  mining and processing facility is not just STEM. You need all the
                                                                  blue collar work as well, and that is a very important concern.
                                                                     Mr. CISNEROS. No, thank you for that answer. I am a big be-
                                                                  liever in education and training and everything that we need to put
                                                                  into it. You said this isn’t a field that most people probably grow
                                                                  up thinking they are going to get into, but it is vital importance
                                                                  to make sure that we invest in the technology and the training for
                                                                  that.
                                                                     So with that, I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Mr. Patronis from the great state of Florida for
                                                                  5 minutes.
                                                                     Mr. PATRONIS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all
                                                                  for participating in speed dating. It is kind of back and forth and,
                                                                  you know, the input that we are getting is really helpful.
                                                                     For the last 8 years I regulated mining and blasting in the state
                                                                  of Florida. And I have learned of the proponents and the opponents
                                                                  and specifically understanding, at least in the case of the state of
                                                                  Florida, whenever we have what seems to be good policy or good
                                                                  proposed legislation, how it dramatically could potentially change
                                                                  your cost of business or where your customers may do their busi-
                                                                  ness. I look at what you are providing. You are providing quality
                                                                  jobs in a heavily regulated environment with a sensitivity to supply
                                                                  chain needs and also what you need to do to balance the environ-
                                                                  ment. And I don’t envy what you do, but I am glad you are able
                                                                  to find a margin to make you want to continue pursuing it.
                                                                     I have always been a big proponent for predictability in the
                                                                  timelines when it comes to permitting. I don’t want to belabor this
                                                                  because I know it was kind of touched on a little bit by you, Mr.
                                                                  Kaye, but I am going to ask you to elaborate more on it and maybe
                                                                  even a little bit of a comparison of the timeline of how China has
                                                                  the ability to bring goods to market versus the United States and
                                                                  how much of a difference there is in that timeline because does this
                                                                  create an advantage for China?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. I have a couple of comments that I think would be
                                                                  relevant. One of which is that to the former—the congressman over
                                                                  there who said, how do you attract young people? Okay, the answer
                                                                  is technology. Technology makes it a lot more glamorous than a
                                                                  pick and a shovel. We are using artificial intelligence, predictive
                                                                  analytics for fast tracking exploration. It brings a whole other kind
                                                                  of person to the table.
                                                                     Secondly, today we made an announcement that retired four-star
                                                                  General Steven Townsend has become a senior advisor to us. He




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                                                                  testified in front of the Senate some years ago about the need for
                                                                  critical minerals. He told us that in Africa when he was running
                                                                  AFRICOM, he wanted to find out how many mines, rare earth and
                                                                  critical mineral mines, were owned by the United States versus
                                                                  China. He found none owned by the United States, all owned by
                                                                  China, except for one, a Canadian company, which turned out
                                                                  when he put his intelligence team to it, to be a front for the Chi-
                                                                  nese. So somebody asked earlier about Africa.
                                                                     As to your question, fast tracking is everything right now. Okay.
                                                                  Speed and time. Speed is most important. Time is our enemy. And,
                                                                  therefore, the ability to have access to the decision-makers, to be
                                                                  able to have a meeting such as this, to be able to understand what
                                                                  their requirements are and how we can fast track application for
                                                                  DPA grants or Department of Defense or the movement of money
                                                                  from, you know, environment to defense is critically important.
                                                                  How can we manage the bureaucracy so that it makes it easier for
                                                                  us instead of cutting the red tape and drowning in the things that
                                                                  all my colleagues have just talked about, years and years of going
                                                                  through these things? It is getting better.
                                                                     Mr. CISNEROS. And it is not—the technology’s not going away
                                                                  and the demand is not shrinking. I guess my also concern is just,
                                                                  if you can just expand on it a little bit is the national security con-
                                                                  cerns we have about being beholden to China on our pipeline.
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. Yeah. Thank you. The F-35 requires 920 pounds of
                                                                  rare earths. A submarine is 5,000. The new F-47, which is now
                                                                  being proposed, requires large amounts of rare earths. The newest
                                                                  radar that we are working on requires rare earths. The missiles,
                                                                  we expended a tremendous amount of our armaments with Israel,
                                                                  with the Ukraine war, et cetera. You got to rebuild the stockpiles,
                                                                  and yet they require rare earths.
                                                                     So it is got to be domestic supply, and it is got to happen now.
                                                                  We don’t have 5 more years. And so, therefore, that is why we are
                                                                  focused so hard on being able to deliver gallium by the end of this
                                                                  year, because it is required in 3,800 different defense systems that
                                                                  our government requires.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentleman’s time is up.
                                                                     Mr. CISNEROS. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. Thank you.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. Next, I recognize Dr. Morrison from the
                                                                  great state of Minnesota for 5 minutes.
                                                                     Ms. MORRISON. Thank you, Chairman Williams and Ranking
                                                                  Member Velázquez, for holding this hearing. And I want to thank
                                                                  our witnesses for being here and taking the time to testify and
                                                                  share your expertise about the critical mineral industry.
                                                                     This is a topic we will return to again and again as demand for
                                                                  critical minerals continues to grow during the coming decades. The
                                                                  International Energy Agency projects that growing investments in
                                                                  clean energy will double global demand for minerals by 2040.
                                                                  Growing demand for electric vehicles could increase the need for
                                                                  minerals such as lithium and graphite by as much as 4,000 percent
                                                                  over the next few decades.
                                                                     And by the way, I am thrilled by the enthusiasm for mining crit-
                                                                  ical minerals I have heard here. So I assume that everyone on this




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                                                                  Committee will be voting against clawing back the IRA and clean
                                                                  energy tax credits.
                                                                     One of the mines that my colleague from Minnesota, Mr.
                                                                  Stauber, referenced, is on public lands in the watershed of the
                                                                  Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, the most visited wilder-
                                                                  ness in the United States and a major economic engine in North-
                                                                  eastern Minnesota. One point I want to make regarding proposed
                                                                  hard rock mines in Minnesota is that this kind of mining has never
                                                                  been done in Minnesota before. We have a proud tradition of iron
                                                                  ore taconite mining. It is very different kind of mining that carries
                                                                  very different risks than copper, nickel, and other hard rock min-
                                                                  ing.
                                                                     And the proposed mines, respectfully to my other colleague from
                                                                  Minnesota, are not Minnesota grown. They are owned by Glencore,
                                                                  Rio Tinto, and Antofagasta. These are not small businesses. These
                                                                  are not homegrown, and they are not American companies. They
                                                                  are international mining conglomerates with some of the worst
                                                                  labor and environmental records in the world.
                                                                     I would like to point out a study that found that the proposed
                                                                  mine in the watershed of Minnesota’s Boundary Waters Canoe
                                                                  Area Wilderness would cause a net economic loss in the long term,
                                                                  due in part to the job and revenue losses, for the thriving outdoor
                                                                  recreation industry that that area depends on.
                                                                     So, Mr. Chairman, I request unanimous consent to insert the
                                                                  study into the record.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. So moved.
                                                                     Ms. MORRISON. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
                                                                     Dr. Stoy, can you comment on some of the tradeoffs of unre-
                                                                  stricted, minimally regulated mining in terms of environment im-
                                                                  pacts? Are there any negatives or is it just all upside?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. Thanks for the question. Wouldn’t that be wonderful
                                                                  if there were only upsides? You know, as we discussed securing a
                                                                  domestic supply chain for rare earths, you know, we have to talk
                                                                  about these trade-offs. There are benefits. You know, we can in-
                                                                  crease our domestic supply long term. We can reduce our depend-
                                                                  ence on foreign sources. We can support national security. We
                                                                  might bring jobs and investment to rural areas that didn’t have ac-
                                                                  cess to that before. But, of course, there are significant costs. You
                                                                  know, there is the timeline. We have to consider what is going to
                                                                  happen environmentally here.
                                                                     The environmental impact, you know, we are talking about dis-
                                                                  turbing large areas of land. We are consuming water, we are pro-
                                                                  ducing hazardous tailings that include radioactive elements, like
                                                                  thorium, uranium. This is, you know, especially concerning and
                                                                  sensitive ecosystem or near indigenous lands or, frankly, anywhere
                                                                  where people live.
                                                                     There is also, you know, community opposition. Many proposed
                                                                  mines face strong pushback from Tribal Nations, environmental
                                                                  groups, and local residents who are simply concerned about the
                                                                  place they live, you know, water quality, land access, the long-term
                                                                  plan for these sites. These projects carry legal, social, and
                                                                  reputational risks.
                                                                     In contrast, recovering rare earths from existing industrial waste
                                                                  avoids new land disturbance. It leverages materials already above




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                                                                  the ground and offers a faster, cleaner pathway to supply security.
                                                                  So while I think new mining may play a role in the long term and,
                                                                  of course, in the entire economic picture, we have to be clear-eyed
                                                                  about the costs and pursue lower impact alternatives when they
                                                                  are available.
                                                                    Ms. MORRISON. I appreciate that perspective. Thank you.
                                                                    I want to just take a moment before my time expires to brag
                                                                  about a Minnesota company that is doing innovative work to re-
                                                                  duce our dependence on critical minerals. Niron Magnetics is the
                                                                  world’s only producer of high-performance rare earth-free perma-
                                                                  nent magnets, which are used in everything from cars to audio sys-
                                                                  tems to medical devices. Niron Magnetics uses technology that was
                                                                  developed through research at the University of Minnesota and
                                                                  they received an SBIR award in 2024 to explore the use of their
                                                                  magnets in DOD applications, exemplifying, I think, how well-de-
                                                                  signed innovations system can support our small businesses and
                                                                  address pressing issues.
                                                                    Mr. Dowd, we have talked a little bit about SBIR and STTR pro-
                                                                  grams. Can you just speak to how federal grants and awards can
                                                                  be mutually beneficial to both small businesses and government
                                                                  agencies?
                                                                    Mr. DOWD. Yeah. For my company, who has been in business
                                                                  for about a dozen years, we have had a handful of grants and
                                                                  awards with the Department of Defense and with the Department
                                                                  of Energy, which has really helped further us to where we are
                                                                  today. And I am not sure without the support of the government,
                                                                  we would have been able to achieve what we have achieved. Be-
                                                                  cause what we do is not easy. If it was, we wouldn’t be having this
                                                                  issue today, this conversation today. A lot of R&D goes into getting
                                                                  to where we are today. Thank you.
                                                                    Ms. MORRISON. Thank you, Mr. Dowd. Thank you, Mr. Chair-
                                                                  man.
                                                                    Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentlelady yields back.
                                                                    I recognize Mr. Alford from the great state of Missouri for 5 min-
                                                                  utes.
                                                                    Mr. ALFORD. Well, thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for our
                                                                  witnesses for being here today.
                                                                    Rare earth minerals, elements like neodymium, cerium, lan-
                                                                  thanum are critical for modern technology from smartphones to
                                                                  electric vehicles to defense systems. Missouri’s role in their mining
                                                                  has a rich history and untapped potential, but government over-
                                                                  reach is holding us back. In the mid-20th century, Missouri was a
                                                                  leader in rare earth exploration. The Pea ridge Mine in Wash-
                                                                  ington County, operational since the 1960s, revealed significant de-
                                                                  posits of rare earths alongside iron ore. And by the 1980s, studies
                                                                  confirmed Missouri’s geological potential with deposits in the
                                                                  southeast region rivaling global hotspots.
                                                                    However, low prices and foreign competition, mainly from China,
                                                                  stalled development. China now dominates, producing more than
                                                                  60 percent of the world’s rare earths, leaving the U.S. dependent
                                                                  on imports for more than 70 percent of our supply.
                                                                    Today, Missouri stands at a crossroads. The Pea Ridge Mine,
                                                                  now dormant, holds an estimated 600,000 tons of rare earth oxides,
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                                                                     Private companies are eager to restart operations, but progress
                                                                  is slow. Why? Excessive regulation. Permitting for new mines can
                                                                  take over a decade in the United States of America compared to
                                                                  just a year in competitors’ nations. Environmental reviews, while
                                                                  important, are often redundant, delaying projects without code
                                                                  clear benefits. Meantime, communist China tightens export con-
                                                                  trols, threatening our supply chains.
                                                                     The government must act decisively. First, streamline permitting
                                                                  under the National Environmental Policy Act to cut timelines with-
                                                                  out sacrificing safety. Secondly, offer tax incentives for rare earth
                                                                  processing facilities as refining is a bottleneck. Third, fund re-
                                                                  search into cleaner extraction methods to address environmental
                                                                  concerns. These steps will unleash Missouri’s potential, create jobs,
                                                                  and secure our national interest. Missouri’s rare earths are a sleep-
                                                                  ing giant. It is my intent to help them wake up by getting govern-
                                                                  ment out of the way.
                                                                     Mr. Kaye, critical minerals are not only essential for the long-
                                                                  term economic success of the U.S., but also for its national security.
                                                                  Could you please explain the importance of the resources in your
                                                                  minds to our national security, sir?
                                                                     Mr. KAYE. Thank you for your question. We spoke about
                                                                  gallium. Gallium is critical. There is no supply here in the United
                                                                  States. The Chinese have embargoed it. Our gallium is in a very
                                                                  pure mineralized form found in the carbonatites themselves, which
                                                                  means it is relatively easy to bring them out and properly refine
                                                                  them.
                                                                     Samarium, there is no supply here in the United States. And so
                                                                  we have the same situation with that.
                                                                     Third is our government understands now, particularly the De-
                                                                  partment of Defense, and the reason that General Townshend has
                                                                  become an advisor to us is exactly that reason. He understands
                                                                  what the problems are. He understands what national defense
                                                                  means. And the Chinese are betting that we are going to keep slow
                                                                  like we have been. But that is not going to happen anymore.
                                                                     And so we believe that the 17 rare earths and natural and crit-
                                                                  ical minerals that are important to all aspects, artificial intel-
                                                                  ligence, chips, new radar, new aircraft, new ships, new technologies
                                                                  leading to the future, have to be domestically sourced. And we and
                                                                  our colleagues are determined to make that happen. Our attitude
                                                                  now these days is while we are all friendly competitors, we are all
                                                                  Americans. And whatever we can do to help each other, whether
                                                                  it is technology, whether it is cooperation, whether it is working to-
                                                                  gether to make us critically mineral independent again and, there-
                                                                  fore, critically mineral sovereign again, is our number one mission.
                                                                  And so we are all working toward accomplishing that goal. And
                                                                  thank you for your question.
                                                                     Mr. ALFORD. Thank you, Mr. Kaye, Mr. Dowd, Mr. Mushinski,
                                                                  and our other witness, we really appreciate you being here today.
                                                                  This is a national security issue.
                                                                     And with that, I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentlemen yields back.
                                                                     I now recognize Ms. Simon from the great state of California for
                                                                  5 minutes.




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                                                                     Ms. SIMON. Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is an honor to be sitting
                                                                  by you. And I do believe that you have the best tie in the room
                                                                  today, sir. It is amazing. Yes, sorry. I apologize.
                                                                     I am so happy to be having this conversation with you all. In
                                                                  fact, as you all were talking, what came to me was a writing from
                                                                  Bernice Johnson Reagon, Dr. Bernice Johnson Reagon. And she
                                                                  was one of the leaders of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating
                                                                  Committee during the Civil Rights Movement. And one of her
                                                                  writings was called ‘‘Battered Earth.’’ And one of the stanzas in the
                                                                  piece said, ‘‘If the earth could run away, she would be running for
                                                                  her life.’’ And I really appreciate this very timely conversation.
                                                                     I also appreciate, Dr. Stoy, you talked about being supported in
                                                                  your graduate studies as a young scientist. And it is not missed on
                                                                  me or anyone on this dais that you are the only woman on the
                                                                  panel. My daughter is in the biological sciences. My eldest, go
                                                                  Aggies at UC Davis, and she told me she was one of the few folks
                                                                  who crossed the stage an undergrad focused again on our earth, on
                                                                  biology.
                                                                     I wonder what we would be talking about if, in fact, the United
                                                                  States paid homage to young scientists and fully supported their
                                                                  educations. And once they got out of grad school, fully nurtured
                                                                  their labs, fully nurtured your staffing process, provided support
                                                                  for your insurances. I wonder what we would be thinking about as
                                                                  we try to juxtapose where we are in terms of earthing rare min-
                                                                  erals with our adversaries like China. It is hard to compare and
                                                                  contrast when you have countries around the world that fully sup-
                                                                  port young people advancing in the sciences. But like Bernice John-
                                                                  son Reagon says, our adversaries don’t care about the earth. And
                                                                  if she could run away, she absolutely would.
                                                                     You know, just a few months ago, I was able to visit an amazing
                                                                  small business in West Oakland, where I am from. A small com-
                                                                  pany that has developed fascinating technology to extract lithium
                                                                  directly from brine using significantly less land and water than
                                                                  conventional evaporation methods. And in talking to the founders,
                                                                  young, brilliant, scrappy, they don’t wear suits, they wear Con-
                                                                  verse, they are amazing and super smart and they have PhDs and
                                                                  they are physicians. That is crazy smart, amazing folks, right,
                                                                  again, in a low-income community in the Bay Area doing every-
                                                                  thing that they could to create a sustainable model moving for-
                                                                  ward. They talked to me about how difficult it was not just in the
                                                                  last administration, but also in this administration to acquire re-
                                                                  sources. In fact, they are waiting on money right now to keep their
                                                                  staffing levels up.
                                                                     We are talking not just about rare minerals, we are talking
                                                                  about a finite Earth. And so when you have innovators, like some
                                                                  of you all on this panel, committed, committed to sustainable prac-
                                                                  tices, committed to new opportunities and innovations that will lit-
                                                                  erally save, save the lands of our dear country, you can’t go in a
                                                                  gazillion times, right? The Earth is, in fact, finite.
                                                                     I am curious, Dr. Stoy, when you talk about—well, you talked
                                                                  about, I would say in your testimony rather beautifully, how, in
                                                                  fact, it was difficult in this moment, and it has been, and a number
                                                                  of you have also repeated this, to receive the resources that you
                                                                  need and deserve to move forward. Dr. Stoy, can you talk to me




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                                                                  about, in the perfect world, how would, whether it is SBA or other
                                                                  government agencies, truly support young innovators like yourself?
                                                                  So that instead of sitting at a computer writing 100 pages for
                                                                  $500,000 divided by 3, and those of us who staffed institutions, we
                                                                  know that that is only a couple of staff with a little bit of health
                                                                  insurance and not for their kids, maybe just for them, what would
                                                                  it be like if you could truly be the scientist that you were trained
                                                                  to be? What would you need?
                                                                     Ms. STOY. So I think I have talked about a lot of visions I have
                                                                  had. You know, in a dream world I am running a team of a dozen
                                                                  people. We are all in the lab. We have folks dedicated on building
                                                                  out the rest of the supply chain, talking to all the partners, build-
                                                                  ing out the network. You know, this is something that I, instead
                                                                  of using government funding, I will go out and fundraise later this
                                                                  summer, you know, a couple million dollars to start building out
                                                                  that team. And I am trading that for equity, and I am trading that
                                                                  for, you know—that is betting against the money I will need in the
                                                                  future to build a plant. You know, there is—for startups, you know,
                                                                  you can be scrappy, but you can only do so much with so little
                                                                  money.
                                                                     So I appreciate your question and I think, you know, betting on
                                                                  young innovators is a win for us.
                                                                     Ms. SIMON. I appreciate you and I appreciate all those who
                                                                  came out today to listen, and those are folks who came to testify.
                                                                     Thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back.
                                                                     Chairman WILLIAMS. The gentlelady yields back.
                                                                     I would like to thank our witnesses for their testimony and for
                                                                  appearing before us today. Without objection, Members have 5 leg-
                                                                  islative days to submit additional materials and written questions
                                                                  for the witnesses to the Chair, which will be forwarded to the wit-
                                                                  nesses. I ask the witnesses to please respond promptly.
                                                                     So if there is no further business, without objection, this Com-
                                                                  mittee is adjourned.
                                                                     [Whereupon, at 12:02 p.m., the committee was adjourned.]




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