Organizational Meeting (House Small Business Committee hearing, February 4, 2021)
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The printed record of the organizational meeting of the House Committee on Small Business for the 117th Congress, held February 4, 2021 and published as Small Business Committee Document Number 117-001. Chairwoman Nydia M. Velázquez presides and opens the meeting at 9:35 a.m., with Blaine Luetkemeyer returning as Ranking Member. She describes hybrid proceedings under H.R. 965, including video visibility for Members and mask requirements in the hearing room. The contents list opening statements by Velázquez and Luetkemeyer and an appendix of Rules and Procedures.
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ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
HEARING
BEFORE THE
COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
UNITED STATES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
HEARING HELD
FEBRUARY 4, 2021
Small Business Committee Document Number 117–001
Available via the GPO Website: www.govinfo.gov
U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE
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HOUSE COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
NYDIA VELÁZQUEZ, New York, Chairwoman
JARED GOLDEN, Maine
JASON CROW, Colorado
SHARICE DAVIDS, Kansas
KWEISI MFUME, Maryland
DEAN PHILLIPS, Minnesota
MARIE NEWMAN, Illinois
CAROLYN BOURDEAUX, Georgia
JUDY CHU, California
DWIGHT EVANS, Pennsylvania
ANTONIO DELGADO, New York
CHRISSY HOULAHAN, Pennsylvania
ANDY KIM, New Jersey
ANGIE CRAIG, Minnesota
BLAINE LUETKEMEYER, Missouri, Ranking Member
ROGER WILLIAMS, Texas
JIM HAGEDORN, Minnesota
PETE STAUBER, Minnesota
DAN MEUSER, Pennsylvania
ANDREW GARBARINO, New York
YOUNG KIM, California
BETH VAN DUYNE, Texas
BYRON DONALDS, Florida
MARIA SALAZAR, Florida
SCOTT FITZGERALD, Wisconsin
MELISSA JUNG, Majority Staff Director
JUSTIN PELLETIER, Majority Deputy Staff Director and Chief Counsel
DAVID PLANNING, Staff Director
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CONTENTS
OPENING STATEMENTS
Page
Hon. Nydia Velázquez ............................................................................................. 1
Hon. Blaine Luetkemeyer ....................................................................................... 3
APPENDIX
Additional Material Submitted for the Record:
Rules and Procedures ....................................................................................... 8
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ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2021
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS,
Washington, DC.
The Committee met, pursuant to call, at 9:35 a.m., in room 2360,
Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Nydia M. Velázquez [chair-
woman of the Committee] presiding.
Present: Representatives Velázquez, Golden, Crow, Davids,
Mfume, Phillips, Newman, Bourdeaux, Chu, Evans, Delgado,
Houlahan, Kim of New Jersey, Craig, Luetkemeyer, Donalds, Fitz-
gerald, Garbarino, Hagedorn, Kim of California, Meuser, Salazar,
Stauber, Van Duyne, and Williams.
Chairwoman VELÁZQUEZ. Good morning. I call the Small Busi-
ness Committee organizational meeting to order.
Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare a recess at
any time.
I would like to begin by noting some important requirements.
During the covered period as designated by the Speaker, the com-
mittee will operate in accordance with H.R. 965, which was incor-
porated into the 117th House rule under H.R. 8.
Just as we did last Congress, we will follow guidance from the
Rules Committee to respect the rights of all Members to partici-
pate. Standing House and Committee rules and practice will con-
tinue to apply during hybrid proceedings as well.
House regulations require Members to be visible through a video
connection throughout the proceeding. Due to the nature of a mark-
up, it is extremely important that Members follow this rule to en-
sure a quorum can be established and that Members’ votes can be
recorded by the clerk.
As a reminder, Members can participate in only one proceeding
at a time, so if you have another committee proceeding or meeting,
please sign off and rejoin later.
If a Member wishes to offer an amendment that has not been
prefiled, we will take a brief recess to allow for its uploading, print-
ing, and distribution, then resume.
We may also recess briefly to address technical issues in the
event a Member or witness cannot be recognized to speak.
Finally, for those Members physically present in the committee
room today, we will also be following the health and safety guid-
ance issued by the attending physician. That includes social
distancing, and especially the use of masks. I request Members and
staff to wear masks at all times while in the hearing room, and I
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thank you in advance for your commitment to a safe environment
for all.
I want to first welcome all returning and new Members to the
Small Business Committee. Before we introduce new Members, I
want to recognize Mr. Blaine Luetkemeyer, who is returning to the
Committee as Ranking Member.
Most everyone on the Committee knows that the former Ranking
Member, Steve Chabot, and I shared a wonderful working relation-
ship. Over the years, we moved hundreds of bipartisan bills to
make the world a little brighter for small businesses.
While Steve will be sorely missed, I look forward to working with
Blaine and hope that we can continue this committee’s tradition of
working together.
As a former small business owner, Ranking Member Luetke-
meyer brings a breadth of firsthand experience to this committee,
and he has been a strong voice in Congress for programs that ben-
efit small firms.
We all know that small employers are facing challenging times.
The pandemic has disproportionately hurt small businesses and
workers from every corner of our country, and they fear losing their
livelihoods. It is our duty to implement policies to help them re-
build and reshape our nation’s entrepreneurial landscape.
During the last Congress, we worked together to pass nearly 40
bipartisan bills through the committee and the House. It is my
hope that, given the membership we have this year and the defin-
ing moment this is for our country, the Small Business Committee
will achieve even more for small firms in the 117th Congress.
Small businesses deserve our partnership. We have a diverse
committee, and that is our strength, because we will ensure our
work benefits all entrepreneurs no matter their location, industry,
or background. We are their voice in Congress. While we may not
always agree, it is my hope we can have a productive dialogue and
do so in a respectful manner. I look forward to collaborating with
each of you this Congress.
Now let me take this opportunity to introduce the new Members
on my side. There are a few new Democratic Members of the com-
mittee.
Dean Phillips is a small businessman from Minnesota who is
committed to working across the aisle. He drafted the Paycheck
Protection Program Flexibility Act with Representative Chip Roy,
helping thousands of small employers. He will be a true asset to
our committee.
Marie Newman of Illinois brings a breadth of small business ex-
perience as a former owner of a consulting firm. Throughout her
career, she has also been an advocate for national issues, such as
healthcare, LGBTQ, and economic rights. I am confident she will
be a champion and powerful voice for small businesses.
Carolyn Bourdeaux of Georgia was a professor of public manage-
ment and policy at the Andrew Young School of Policy Studies at
Georgia State University before joining us in Congress. During the
Great Recession, Carolyn was the director of the Georgia Senate
Budget and Evaluation Office, where she worked with both parties
to balance Georgia’s budget and get the state economy back on
track. Her experience coupled with her commitment to bipartisan-
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ship will be instrumental in helping small businesses recover from
the pandemic.
We welcome you—all of you, and we are excited that you will be
serving in this committee.
I would also like to welcome back the Members who served on
the committee in the 116th Congress: Jared Golden from Maine,
Jason Crow from Colorado, Sharice Davids of Kansas, Kweisi
Mfume from Maryland, Judy Chu from California, Dwight Evans
of Pennsylvania, Antonio Delgado from New York, Chrissy
Houlahan of Pennsylvania, Andy Kim from New Jersey, Angie
Craig from Minnesota. We are very fortunate to have all you back
on this committee.
Now I yield to the Ranking Member, Mr. Luetkemeyer, for his
opening statement and to introduce his new members.
Mr. LUETKEMEYER. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman.
I look forward to working with you. You and I have known each
other a long time—about 12 years, I think, in total—ten on this
committee. I stepped off a couple years ago, but we are back. And,
working with you on Financial Services, I think there are a lot of
areas I believe we can find some common ground. I look forward
to that opportunity.
I also want to welcome back the returning Members of the com-
mittee on both sides of the aisle, and welcome all the new Mem-
bers.
As we begin this Congress, I want to say that I look forward to
continuing the tradition of bipartisanship that we fostered on this
committee on behalf of the nation’s entrepreneurs and innovators.
We always say that small businesses are an important economic
driver for our nation. Now, we must ensure that the small busi-
nesses that are struggling from the COVID-19 pandemic can keep
their doors open and have the tools and freedom they need to re-
cover.
My focus and concentration will be on policies that allow small
businesses to recover quickly. Additionally, we must create an envi-
ronment where small businesses grow and expand. Access to cap-
ital, a smart regulatory environment, and an appropriate level of
taxation are priorities to get that done.
I look forward to lively debate and informative hearings, and pro-
ductive markups as we address these very important topics that
will assist the nation’s job creators.
First, I want to recognize Republican Members who are return-
ing to the committee: Jim Hagedorn and Pete Stauber, both of Min-
nesota, have made significant contributions to our committee’s con-
sideration of legislation and policy, and their experience will be in-
valuable as we contemplate the very critical issues now facing our
nation’s small businesses.
Next, I would like to introduce the new Members of the com-
mittee: Representative Roger Williams of Texas, who is not new to
Congress, but new to our committee. He is a small business owner,
former Texas Secretary of State, and former Major League Baseball
player, Atlanta Braves. I am sure you are going to hear, ‘‘Play
ball,’’ often this year.
Representative Dan Meuser of Pennsylvania, who is also not new
to Congress, but new to our committee. Before coming to Congress,
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he worked for a small healthcare products manufacturer where he
helped create thousands of jobs, and actually marketed his prod-
ucts around the world.
Representative Andrew Garbarino of New York, a third-genera-
tion small business owner, practicing law with his father.
Representative Young Kim of California, one of the first Korean
Americans to serve in Congress and a former Member of the Cali-
fornia State Assembly.
Representative Beth Van Duyne of Texas, a former city council
member and mayor, who is used to solving problems that we are
going to be looking at over the next couple of years.
Representative Byron Donalds of Florida, who worked in the
banking, finance, and insurance industries and served in the Flor-
ida House of Representatives.
Representative Maria Salazar of Florida, a five-time Emmy
Award-winning journalist.
And Representative Scott Fitzgerald of Wisconsin, a former Army
officer, newspaper owner, and Wisconsin State Senator.
As this committee considers the many issues related to our na-
tion’s COVID-19 recovery and economy, I know the knowledge and
expertise of all of our new Members will be extremely helpful.
Madam Chairwoman, I look forward to working with you and our
colleagues in a bipartisan manner to address these issues impact-
ing the small businesses.
With that, I would like to present you with a letter of what I
think are some great topics to begin the year with, things that I
think are important to our small businesses and economy and their
role in our economy. And it is pretty lengthy.
I won’t go into discussing it, but I think it gives us a lot of topics
to begin to discuss in the hearings, and I think we are going to
need to be able to address a lot of these issues.
So, with that, I would like to yield the balance of my time to our
Vice Chair, Roger Williams from Texas.
Mr. WILLIAMS. Thank you, Mr. Ranking Member.
I am also honored to serve with the Chairwoman. We also served
on Financial Services and have a long relationship as a Ranking
Member, as a dear friend on this Small Business Committee.
In the 117th Congress, this committee has never been more im-
portant with the things that we are going to be going over. And I
will turn my microphone on. After 10 years, I ought to know that.
But this committee will never be—never be more important. As
someone who has owned a business and still owns a business for
51 years, there is a lot of challenges out there for us, and I know
that this committee is the lifeblood, along with small business, of
our economy. And Main Street America will ultimately turn this
country around from the devastation we have seen from COVID-19.
So, Madam Chairwoman, I give you my time back. Thank you.
Chairwoman VELÁZQUEZ. Thank you. The gentleman yields
back.
Colleagues, I look forward to the robust discussions and debates
that I know will transpire over the next 2 years, and now we will
move to the rules package.
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With the adoption of today’s rules package, I believe we are mak-
ing it clear to the small business community that we are committed
to working together and advocating on their behalf.
Pursuant to clause 2(a) of the House rule XI, today’s first order
of business is to adopt the committee rules for the 117th Congress.
The adoption of the rule is central to the work we do and the tone
we set in this body. Perhaps most importantly, they must ensure
that all points of view are considered and that the minority retains
their full rights to be heard.
In this context, the rules mirror those of the 116th Congress with
some minor conforming and clarifying changes. Most notable are
the renaming of three of the five subcommittees and clarifying the
Member question order for subcommittee hearings.
Three subcommittee names were modified to reflect the change
in nature of small business policy priorities. They are Innovation,
Entrepreneurship, and Workforce Development, formerly Innova-
tion and Workforce Development; the next subcommittee, Under-
served, Agricultural, and Rural Business Development, formerly
Rural Development, Agricultural Trade, and Entrepreneurship; and
Oversight, Investigation and Regulations, formerly Investigations,
Oversight, and Regulations.
The second rule change will clarify Member question order for
subcommittee hearings.
During the 116th Congress, many Members of the full committee
participated in subcommittee hearings when they were not mem-
bers of that subcommittee. While this is permissible under the
rules, a lack of clarity in the rules for this scenario led to confusion
with the question order.
For the 117th Congress, the rules have been amended to clearly
state that subcommittee Members will be recognized to ask ques-
tions first before turning to non-subcommittee Members with their
question order based on full committee seniority.
This committee needs to run in a cooperative manner. I believe
the best way to do that is to make sure both sides have an equal
voice and are treated in a way that is fair. Through adoption of
these rules, we will continue this practice.
I would like to thank the staff on both sides for working closely
on the rules package. At this point, I would like to yield to Ranking
Member Luetkemeyer for any comments he may have on the rules.
Mr. LUETKEMEYER. Thank you, Madam Chair.
The committee’s rules package before us this morning is a prod-
uct of both sides working together. The rules provide opportunities
for the majority and the minority to participate within all facets of
the committee. I thank you for your collaboration, and I look for-
ward to working in a bipartisan manner on many issues to come.
I would like to take this time to mention a few of the provisions
within the rules.
All subcommittees now have a ratio of six majority Members to
five minority Members, which allows for appropriate representation
across the jurisdictional scope of the committee. Three subcommit-
tees, as you mentioned earlier, have slightly altered names. We ap-
preciate the Chairwoman retaining ‘‘agricultural’’ in the new Un-
derserved, Agricultural, and Rural Business Development Sub-
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committee, as many of our members, including the 3rd District of
Missouri, have agricultural land and family farms.
The Subcommittee on Innovation and Workforce Development is
now the Subcommittee on Innovation, Entrepreneurship, and
Workforce Development. And the Subcommittee on Investigations,
Oversight, and Regulations is now the Subcommittee on Oversight,
Investigations, and Regulations.
But make no mistake. No matter the name of the subcommittees,
our Members, Republican and Democrat, are equally committed to
continuing the rigorous oversight for which the committee is
known.
Additionally, the new rules now provide, at subcommittee hear-
ings, Members of the full committee who are not subcommittee
Members will have the opportunity to question witnesses after the
Ranking woman and Ranking Member of both the subcommittee
and the full committee if they are in attendance and all sub-
committee Members have inquired. This is the way questioning is
handled in other House Committees, so it make sense that we fol-
low that protocol as well.
Finally, because of social distancing during the 116th Congress,
this committee has sometimes been in rooms other than 2360 Ray-
burn, our customary hearing room. Our rules now state that, for
hearings held by the committee or a subcommittee in the commit-
tee’s hearing room or another assigned hearing room in Wash-
ington, D.C., a quorum will be deemed present if one Member from
the majority and one Member from the minority are present.
However, the rules continue to state that the Chair will exercise
reasonable comity by waiting for the Ranking Member, even if a
quorum is present, before striking the gavel.
Again, I thank the Chairwoman for working with me on this
rules package. They provide for a smooth operation of the com-
mittee, and I urge my colleagues to support it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Chairwoman VELÁZQUEZ. The gentleman yields back.
Are there any Members that wish to be recognized on the rules?
The committee now moves to consideration of the rules package.
The clerk will read the title of the document.
The CLERK. Rules and Procedures Adopted by the Committee on
Small Business.
Chairwoman VELÁZQUEZ. I ask unanimous consent that the
rules package be considered as read and open for amendment in its
entirety.
Does any Member seek recognition for the purposes of offering an
amendment?
Seeing no amendments, the question is on adopting the rules.
All those in favor, say aye.
All those opposed, say no.
In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the proposed
rules are adopted, and staff is authorized to make technical and
grammatical changes.
Pursuant to House rules, the rules adopted by the Committee on
Small Business for the 117th Congress will be published in the
Congressional Record and made available to Members and the pub-
lic on the committee’s website.
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Now we will approve our Subcommittee Chairs and Ranking
Members. The full committee Vice Chair will be Mr. Kweisi Mfume
from Maryland.
Mr. Jared Golden will be the Chair of the Subcommittee on Un-
derserved, Agricultural, and Rural Business Development.
Mr. Jason Crow will be the Chair on the Subcommittee on Inno-
vation, Entrepreneurship, and Workforce Development.
Ms. Sharice Davids will be the Chair of the Subcommittee on
Economic Growth, Tax, and Capital Access.
Mr. Kweisi Mfume will be the Chair of the Subcommittee on
Contracting and Infrastructure.
Mr. Dean Phillips will be the Chair of the Subcommittee on
Oversight, Investigations, and Regulations.
I now yield to the Ranking Member, Mr. Luetkemeyer, for any
remarks that he may have to introduce the subcommittee Ranking
Members.
Mr. LUETKEMEYER. Thank you, Madam Chair.
I am pleased to introduce the Republican Ranking Members for
the 117th Congress.
First, I want to recognize Roger Williams of Texas, who has
agreed to serve as Vice Ranking Member of the full Committee.
Next is Jim Hagedorn of Minnesota, who will serve as a Ranking
Member for the Subcommittee on Underserved, Agricultural, and
Rural Business Development.
Ranking Member for the Subcommittee on Innovation, Entrepre-
neurship, and Workforce Development will be Young Kim of Cali-
fornia.
Ranking Member for the Subcommittee on Economic Growth,
Tax, and Capital Access will be Dan Meuser of Pennsylvania.
Beth Van Duyne of Texas will be the Ranking Member for the
Subcommittee on Oversight, Investigations, and Regulations.
And Maria Salazar of Florida will serve as Ranking Member for
the Subcommittee on Contracting and Infrastructure.
I believe the experience of all these talented Members will be in-
valuable as we consider the important issues facing our nation’s
small businesses.
And, Madam Chair, with that, I yield back.
Chairwoman VELÁZQUEZ. The gentleman yields back.
I move that the list of subcommittee Chairs and Ranking Mem-
bers and Vice Chair as set forth in the roster be approved.
All those in favor, say aye.
Those opposed, say no.
In the opinion of the Chair, the ayes have it, and the Chairs and
Ranking Members are appointed.
This concludes the order of business for today’s meeting. Does
any Member seek recognition for debate before we conclude?
If not, without objection, this meeting of the Committee on Small
Business stands adjourned, and the Committee will stand in recess
for a few moments to prepare for a Committee hearing.
[Whereupon, at 9:55 a.m., the Committee was adjourned.]
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