Congressional Record, September 29, 2022, from Page H8308 — House
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A page of the Congressional Record, House, dated September 29, 2022, at page H8308, carrying a floor colloquy between Mr. Perry and Mr. Roy. A speaker says that a workplace safety agency's earlier requirement to report adverse reactions to the vaccine was dropped and calls forcing employers to require it tyranny. The speakers also criticize federal spending, citing $1.5 trillion for the fiscal year and another $12.3 billion in Ukraine funding, and say the national debt rose from $21 trillion to $31 trillion in five years. They say the Fed is trying to cool the economy while Congress adds fuel to it. The remarks are the speakers' own.
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H8308 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE September 29, 2022
He has nothing violent in his record. Somebody tell me that is not tyr- cool down, like pouring water on the
But they break into the house as a anny. fire, this economy because prices are
show of force, as a show to make sure Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, I can’t tell out of control.
everybody else in the country knows if my colleague that it is not tyranny. It People can’t afford their daily lives.
you have a differing opinion, don’t you certainly is. They can’t afford their electricity,
dare say it. Don’t you dare. This is the same OSHA that at some their food, their rent, or their mort-
That is the definition of tyranny. point required reporting of adverse re- gage. They can’t afford to send their
That is exactly the definition of tyr- actions to the so-called vaccine, the kids to school.
anny. What else can it be? jab. In the dark of night, in the middle So, the Fed does its part. What do we
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman of the week, when no one was paying do over here? Well, the Fed is trying to
from Texas. attention, that requirement went pour water on the fire. They want to
Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, I would just away. They still tried to make private cool it off. Let’s throw some gas on it.
add that we are talking about, again, employers force their employees to $1.5 trillion for this fiscal year con-
decisions we make with the money take this jab, but they didn’t want to tinues to fund the things that we have
that we are taking from taxpayers, know. been talking about, another $12.3 bil-
printing and borrowing to the tune of a They have to report everything else, lion in Ukraine funding.
trillion-dollar-plus deficit every year. right? They have to report every single We all want to help. What Russia did
I started this by saying when I ran slip and fall, every industrial accident. is bullying, right? A country can bully
for office 5 years ago for the first time, We want people to be safe. But we just like an individual can bully. They
our national debt was $21 trillion. never gave them a license to tell us are bullying their neighbors. Nobody
Today, it is $31 trillion—$10 trillion in what to do with our own bodies and agrees with that. We all want to help.
the mere 5 years since I have been here, make those decisions. But this is American taxpayers’
$2 trillion a year, my friend from Penn- For goodness’ sake, if they had the money.
sylvania. But we keep funding this temerity to force us to do it, the least While Russia is invading the border
stuff. they can do is keep records on the ad- of Ukraine, we have an invasion on our
This is the nexus I want the Amer- verse effects. southern border. How much are we
ican people to understand. The deficit Mr. Speaker, they didn’t want to spending on that?
spending isn’t just about the deficits. know, did they? They didn’t want to Look, we are spending a pile of
The deficit spending is why our Nation know. They don’t want you to know money. But do you know what we are
is being torn apart. their tyranny. not doing? We are not stopping the in-
We are supposed to be able to agree They are not for medical freedom. vasion. Here, let’s spend a bunch of
to disagree. We are supposed to be able They are not for education freedom. money down where Chip lives, and we
to have 50 laboratories of democracy They are not for economic freedom. put a welcome mat out.
sewn together under a commonality, They are not for any of our freedoms. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman
defending ourselves and having an That is where we are today. from Texas.
economy that functions. Instead, we That is why Chip, the good gen- Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, we spend ap-
are funding the bureaucrats that are tleman from Texas, and I are here this proximately $58 billion—I don’t have it
ripping us apart, thread by thread, IRS evening, to talk about the tyranny right in front of me—a year for the De-
agent after IRS agent, FBI agent after that this place, this room, the body partment of Homeland Security, $55
FBI agent. I say that as someone who that we serve in, the body that we billion, $56 billion.
worked in the U.S. Attorney’s Office fought to serve in, the institution that We just approved earlier this year $58
with great men and women in the FBI, we revered growing up, we are so upset billion for Ukraine, and now there is an
whose father was an IRS agent. My fa- with because this institution, this additional $12 billion in the continuing
ther worked for the Internal Revenue body, is aiding and abetting this tyr- resolution that passed out of the Sen-
Service as an auditor. anny. ate today and is now sitting in the
I have no problem with how we try to This is the body that is supposed to House. That puts it at almost $70 bil-
set these things up to work. But hiring be ending the tyranny, that is supposed lion, which is well more than the entire
85,000 new IRS personnel on the back of to be fighting the tyranny. Yet, here annual budget of the Department of
what we knew happened, targeting cer- we are. Homeland Security for the United
tain individuals with the power of the Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, if I might in- States.
IRS, the FBI targeting a father, tar- quire about the time remaining. Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, I thank
geting Scott Smith in Loudoun Coun- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- the gentleman for making the con-
ty, saying he is a domestic terrorist, in tleman from Texas has 1 minute re- trast.
coordination with the National School maining. Here is what else it is more than: It
Boards Association, which 26 States’ Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, I yield back is actually almost more than Russia’s
school board associations have now re- the balance of my time. annual military spending. The United
moved themselves from. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Mem- States alone, the United States tax-
That is what the American people bers are reminded to refrain from en- payer alone, is spending more in
need to understand. We are funding gaging in personalities toward the Ukraine to fight the Russians than
that—$10.8 billion for the FBI, $12.6 bil- President. Russia’s total military budget—not
lion for IRS, $1.5 billion for ATF. For f just in Ukraine, their entire military
public health, $8.5 billion for CDC, $6.3 budget.
billion for the National Institute of Al- USING THE POWER OF THE PURSE Yet, the budget that we are spending
lergy and Infectious Diseases, $45 bil- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under money on, on our border isn’t meant to
lion for NIH generally, $3.3 billion for the Speaker’s announced policy of Jan- keep our country safe, our national se-
the FDA, $122 million for the WHO, $612 uary 4, 2021, the Chair recognizes the curity interest—it is not just national
million for OSHA. Remember, it was gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. security. My good friend, the gen-
OSHA that tried to force a vax man- PERRY) for 30 minutes. tleman from Texas, lives right down
date on private businesses. Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, I thank there. He can tell you horror story
How do you get any more tyrannical the good gentleman from Texas for after horror story about the unsafe
than the President saying: You, private being here and making this plain to all conditions that his constituents, his
entity, through OSHA, are going to re- of us. bosses, have to live under every day be-
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quire your employees to take a needle We are going to talk about the CR cause this little book, the Constitution
in the arm for a vaccine, by the way, some more. It continues the highly in- of the United States, says that immi-
that was unproven, untested, had li- flated funding levels. gration and the border is the job of the
ability protection, and enriched two We just saw the Fed—I have issues Federal Government.
pharma companies to the tune of $93 with the Fed; that is a whole separate But what do you do? What do you do
billion in 2 years. issue—raise interest rates to try to when they don’t do the job? What do
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you do when 53 humans are cooked in a printing of money that we actually is in the CR: $3 billion for Operation
truck in your town? I will tell you. I deal with these crises in real terms. Allies Welcome.
had lunch at a little diner on my way I am really talking to my colleagues You know what that is? That is Af-
to Washington, D.C., this week. Good on my side of the aisle on this one: ghan settlement.
people, hardworking people—you can We should demand that we get For 20 years, for 20 years this country
see the same people probably every day changes at the border. has bled its treasure of humanity,
in that diner. I sat down. They are We should demand that we turn away sending our best and brightest to the
talking about the world’s problems, or detain fully at the border. front, and, of course, your tax dollars.
talking about their own problems. We should demand that we stop the What did we do at the end?
They looked at me, complaining, and forced jabs in people’s arms in the mili- We just walked away and gave all
said: What does it matter? We can’t do tary or they get fired. that away. We dishonored those who
anything about it. We should demand changes in our en- lost their lives, those who came home
I said: What do you mean you can’t ergy policy so that we can free up irreparably damaged, and gave that
American energy to increase our power country $85 billion of premier military
do anything about it? What are you
on the world stage, make our grids reli- hardware, we gave it to hardened ter-
asking me for?
able, make us more dependent on reli- rorists and we gave them a country to
They said: You are in Congress, and
able energy, instead of unreliable en- operate out of.
you can’t do anything about it. You know what you get for that? You
We stand here in this body today ergy, while making the environment
know what thanks you get?
knowing all of these problems exist, better, by the way. Here is what you get: You get $3 bil-
every single one of them. We can all We should demand that we neutralize lion for Operation Allies Welcome be-
outline the problems. We all know the the power of the authoritarian state by cause we still have to bring people
challenges our country faces. pulling back on the reins of the FBI from Afghanistan because the people
Yet, in this body, and in the body and the IRS. that we brought initially weren’t vet-
across the other side of the building, There are things we can do. It is ted. We don’t know who they were.
we just want to keep the clocks wound. right here. We have the power of the They just got on the airplane, and now
We just want the trains to run on time. purse. We should use it. I tell you, I am they are living in your community.
We don’t care about all of this other speaking to my colleagues on both We pray to God that you are going to
stuff that is happening out there, as sides of the aisle. We have an obliga- be safe. We pray to God that not one of
long as everything works here in Wash- tion. them is a terrorist.
ington, D.C. Look, I have run into the buzz saw of But we already know the answer to
Some of the richest counties in the challenging the administration when it that, right?
country are right here. Everything is was Republican because I believed so We are living on borrowed time. We
fine in Washington, D.C., but go 100 much in Article I primacy. I introduced already know because we have seen it.
miles or 3,000 miles away and see how the ARTICLE ONE Act with my friend, This is what my friend is talking
it feels. MIKE LEE, to say we should take away about with Article I. The Founders
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman emergency powers from the President. gave us the power.
from Texas. I did that when the President was You know what they didn’t give us in
Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate using emergency powers to build a wall the body?
what the gentleman just said. when there was an emergency and we It comes from within. A little bit of
I would say, for our constituents needed to build it because my col- courage. A little bit of courage.
back home, I feel them. I feel the frus- leagues refused to. But I wanted there Right now, we all go out and say we
tration of being in a Chamber where I to be a limit into how much power the should stop spending money on this
can offer no amendment, where I have executive branch can use. and this and this: 87,000 IRS agents, a
no power to have any input on what I subpoenaed records about unaccom- Department of Justice that is reigning
bill we are going to be debating on the panied alien children because I knew tyranny over our citizens.
that when my colleague on the other You know what we did today?
floor. Literally, for 6-and-a-half years, We just continued to fund them, hun-
no amendment has been offered on the side of the aisle was wearing a white
dreds of millions of dollars.
floor of this body in open debate, mean- pantsuit, staring through a fence that To my good friend from Texas, and
ing it wasn’t precooked up in the Com- it was all theater. There weren’t kids we are here joined by the gentleman
mittee on Rules. in cages. Those were set up by the pre- from Louisiana (Mr. HIGGINS), another
Think about that, in the people’s vious administration under Jeh John- great friend, when I walk around my
House. That should infuriate both sides son and President Obama, and they district, I see people that agree with
of the aisle. That is no way for the peo- know it. They know it. me, that support me, and I see people
ple’s House to operate. It is being oper- So you know what? that don’t like me and would never
ated by dictate. That is a bipartisan I subpoenaed information from HHS support me. I have conversations with
statement, I want to say, over time. under a Republican administration be- each one of them.
I think, for the American people, cause I wanted to know the truth. You know what?
they want to see us do something. I We should care about Article I here. Not one of them has said, I can’t af-
think we can. If we do, we can take power back and ford my groceries. My electric bill is
To the fine folks in Pennsylvania we can represent the people again. sitting on the table because I don’t
that you ran into who said, ‘‘What can We can use the power of the purse to have the money to pay for it yet this
we do? We can’t do anything about it,’’ check the executive. month.
do you know what? We can. We can stand up and defend the peo- Here is what we need, here is how you
One, we can freeze spending to stop ple of the United States. fix that, Mr. PERRY. Hire 87,000 more
the complete disregard for the eco- We can secure the border. IRS agents. Give $250 million to the
nomic well-being of this country and We can rein in the tyranny of the Department of Justice. That is going
the driving up of inflation by spending IRS and the FBI. to fix my problems. Not one of my con-
money we don’t have. We can do that. We can get American energy going stituents has said that to me.
again by opening it up, so our people How about you, Mr. ROY?
b 1945 don’t have to have inflation and the in- Mr. ROY. Not one. And I will tell you
We can agree as a body that we have ability to have a reliable grid. that across the board, regardless of ide-
to make tough decisions like families We can stop forcing our men and ology, the people that come to me and
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and businesses do. Freeze spending. women in uniform to get fired if they are talking to me are concerned about
Let’s just stop the bleeding. refuse to take an experimental jab. the border.
We can take a second step, and we Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman They are concerned about fentanyl.
can actually demand that when we from Pennsylvania (Mr. PERRY). They are concerned about energy
have debates about the spending of tax- Mr. PERRY. The gentleman is abso- prices and their inability to pay their
payer money and the borrowing and lutely right. I am looking at what else bills.
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They are concerned about the extent I yield back to the gentleman. My good friend from the State of
to which they are in danger in their Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, I thank Texas just went through the list. We
communities, the crime, and their rela- the gentleman from Louisiana. were energy independent about 13⁄4
tionship to the border. One of the other things that is in this years ago. It took that long to not only
They are concerned about the things continuing resolution: $1 billion for in- make us energy dependent, but your
that are impacting their lives, their in- creased home heating and cooling cost bills are going through the roof.
ability to pay for their kids’ school, subsidies. Think about that, for sub- Look, I know that people will say,
their inability to afford healthcare be- sidies. well, gas prices are actually coming
cause we have regulated it to death, At the very same moment, the ad- down now.
and we have funded it and subsidized it ministration, through its policies, is Ladies and gentlemen, the Strategic
to death, so that we are in a position driving your energy costs—electricity, Petroleum Reserve, the President has
where they can’t afford to live the gasoline, diesel—through the roof. been unloading that. It was created, set
American Dream for their kids and They are making you pay more and aside for natural disasters.
their grandkids. then they are taking more of your tax What is happening right now today?
Our job in this body is to address dollars to give it out to people who What has been happening over the
that, not by spending more money and can’t afford to pay for it. last 48 hours in our country with our
not by continuing to fund the very And people in this body support this? friends from Florida, right?
things that are undermining it. Somehow with a straight face. They might be able to use some of
Mr. PERRY. That is exactly right. You think that this is right? that, but, of course, it is at the lowest
I yield to the gentleman from Lou- I will give you a statistic: The U.S. level it has been in the history of the
isiana (Mr. HIGGINS), my good friend. imports about 201⁄2 million barrels a Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
Mr. HIGGINS of Louisiana. Mr. It wasn’t meant for political disas-
day. A tanker ship takes about 190,000
Speaker, I thank the gentleman and I ters. It was meant for national security
barrels. That is about 50 ships a day.
thank my colleagues. and natural disasters. But yet, this is
The trip from Saudi to New York is
I hope America is paying attention what is happening.
about 6,500 miles. If you don’t like the look of your
because we cannot continue to fund a
Looking at the burn rate, we are electricity bill now—now, when the
government that appears to be deter-
burning about 1 million gallons one weather is pretty temperate in the
mined to destroy our country from
way—1 million gallons one way. And United States—just give it about 3
within.
We have millions of illegal aliens this administration would rather do months and see how you are going to
crossing our southern border. We have that, tankers from Saudi Arabia, tank- like it. You can blame it on one thing,
lost all operational control, the sov- ers from Venezuela, my goodness, prob- one thing and one thing alone: The left,
ereignty of our Nation at the southern ably tankers from Iran. But heaven for- the Democratic left, the Democratic
border. bid, heaven forbid we open the pipeline, Party, and those in it that are forcing
They are asking for more money for any pipeline. They will close as many and imposing this on you.
COVID. Since March of 2020, we have as they can because somehow they feel I yield to the good gentleman from
spent $8 trillion just on COVID. That is good about that. Texas (Mr. GOHMERT), my other friend.
$8,000 billion. You cannot convince me Mr. ROY. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. GOHMERT. Mr. Speaker, it is a
or any American across the country Mr. PERRY. I yield to the gentleman bit of a segue here between things you
that our Nation has actually spent that from Texas. were talking about earlier in the last
money. We should have a full account- Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, I will yield half hour and all three of you have
ing of this money. for the gentleman from Texas (Mr. been mentioning, and that is when you
They want more money for Ukraine. GOHMERT), but first I want to add to talk about the $70 billion that has been
We have already sent them about $70 what the gentleman said because it is provided to Ukraine for the war with
billion. on point. Russia, if you look at the amount of in-
Do you know how much Russia We are funding $5 million for the Spe- crease in fuel costs that this adminis-
spends, my colleagues, every year, on cial Presidential Envoy for Climate tration caused, it drove up the price of
their military, their entire budget? John Kerry; we are funding $15 million oil, the price of natural gas so much
I will answer the question. It is about for the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel that Russia made, last I saw, over $60
$70 billion. We have given to Ukraine on Climate Change and U.N. Frame- billion more than they had before.
the entire budget for Russia for their work Convention; $2 billion to the SEC, This administration is really respon-
military expenditures. We have no con- which they use to help advance the sible for funding both sides of the war
trol over this money. We are not send- very ESG constraints on the flow of between Russia and Ukraine: The $60-
ing them any more money, not without capital that is constraining our ability plus billion that Russia got because
a fight. to produce energy; $3.2 billion to the Biden’s actions increased the cost of
They want a CR passed, a continuing Department of Energy’s Office of En- fuel, and then the $70 billion that we
resolution, a short-term budget to keep ergy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, appropriated to Ukraine. You go, this
the Federal Government operating which funnels taxpayer dollars to unre- is nuts that they would be doing that.
until December. That is after the elec- liable green energy; $825 million for Then you look at who is getting hurt,
tions have ejected our colleagues DOE’s Office of Fossil Energy and Car- and you mention the Strategic Petro-
across the aisle but before Republicans bon Management, which gives credit leum Reserve. It is down to its lowest
will be sworn into the majority on Jan- handouts to massive oil companies; point in decades because this President
uary 3. That is wrong on every level. $450 million for DOE’s ARPA; $29 mil- was trying to cover for his disastrous
It is like identifying an arsonist, lion to administer a DOE loan program energy policy. So the millions of bar-
banishing them from your neighbor- responsible for the Solyndra debacle. rels that the Trump administration put
hood, and giving them gasoline and I could go on and on. I have got a list in there so we would have it for an
matches on the way out. We cannot here. emergency, like a hurricane and other
allow it. We stand strongly against it, All that money to go to the Depart- things, that is all gone, trying to cover
but we don’t have the votes. ment of Energy to keep spending tax- for Biden’s own disastrous policies.
America, there is not enough Repub- payer money to screw up American en- The American public, they see the
licans in the House of Representatives ergy and drive up their energy bills. price of gasoline coming down some,
to stop this CR in the formula that the Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, Mr. ROY is but people need to understand what
Democrats intend. We need Americans absolutely right. Before I turn it over this is all about. It is what it has al-
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to communicate and stand strong. to the gentleman from Texas, I want to ways been about, power in the hands of
Align yourselves with the conserv- prime the pump here a little bit. a small group of elitists and everybody
atives in the House of Representatives, The Department of Energy was cre- else, like in the Middle Ages for many
like my colleagues here tonight, and ated for one sole purpose, one purpose ages. The wealthy ride, the poor walk.
help us fight the good fight to preserve and one purpose only: To make the That is what this energy policy of
our Republic. United States energy independent. theirs is really all about.
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I saw a picture just before I came Mr. PERRY. Close to 60; but yet we The Ukraine funding.
over, John Kerry on his private plane need another 2 for unaccompanied mi- The $3 billion for operation allies
flying, using that energy, because he is nors. We don’t need the extra 2. You welcome.
important, because he is the elite. But just stop the unaccompanied minors, The COVID funding.
everybody else is going to need to give and you don’t need the extra 2. Oh, by the way, the President of the
up their cars. Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman United States said the pandemic is
As our friend THOMAS MASSIE has from Louisiana (Mr. HIGGINS). over, but we are going to add more
pointed out, plugging in a car over- Mr. HIGGINS of Louisiana. Mr. COVID funding in here, right? Can’t do
night is like plugging in 17 refrig- Speaker, I thank my colleague for without that crisis.
erators. yielding. Mr. Speaker, all that included, but
Mr. Speaker, I would bring our focus hardly a whimper out of this town, be-
b 2000 on to our total national debt for a mo- cause it is more important that this
And everybody won’t be able to do it, ment. As concerned American patriots, town keeps going than the American
but if everybody would go to an elec- conservative constitutionalist men people get what they asked for, what
tric car, then people aren’t going to who love our country, we are dis- they elected us for.
have power. And then they will have to cussing this continuing resolution, the Mr. Speaker, this is completely unac-
rely on their buddy, their Big Brother temporary funding of the Federal Gov- ceptable. I would agree with my col-
Government to say, Okay, some of you ernment that we stand against because league from Texas, if Republicans
can plug in these times. of the process and the lack of appro- aren’t going to fight now—understand,
What about when we were inde- priate regular order that reflects the not one of us is a Democrat. We don’t
pendent, and we didn’t need the gov- failure of this body to perform regard- have any authority or majority in this
ernment to tell us when we could move ing our budget responsibilities that House of Representatives; no majority
about? were laid out clearly by our Founders. by Republicans in the Senate. That is
This is where it is headed. The green Let’s talk about our $31 trillion in the complete legislature. There is no
is really a brown policy, and it is going debt. majority of Republicans in the execu-
to be really unpleasant. It was 1980 in America before we had tive branch. That is President Biden.
Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, we are talk- accumulated $1 trillion in debt. So in Those are Democrats.
ing about the drop-off of the Strategic the first 200 years of our existence, How, for the love of the Lord, can Re-
Petroleum Reserve. America accumulated $1 trillion in publicans be blamed for voting ‘‘no’’ on
If you can see this here on C–SPAN, debt. In the following 40 years, we have this tyranny?
this top level is 750 million barrels. accumulated $30 trillion. If Democrats want to continue tyr-
And you can see up here in 2020, there We are up $31 trillion in debt. If this anny, God bless them. They can go ex-
is this sharp drop-off? That drops down body were to balance the budget and plain that to their constituents, to
to 350 million barrels. That is the de- run a $1 billion surplus, it would re- their bosses. But why would Repub-
fense being exercised by a President quire 31,000 years to address a $31 tril- licans help them? And more impor-
trying to save his party. That is not lion debt. tantly, why would Republicans help
being used specifically for the national Mr. Speaker, I say to my colleagues, them when reinforcements are coming
security interest of the United States. 1 trillion is 1,000 billion. right over the horizon. We have an
That is absolutely horrific. Dumping No one here, nor across the Nation
election in 40 days.
the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, that we love and serve, believes we As Mr. HIGGINS said, to pass a con-
dumping it in order to drive gas prices have 31,000 years to fix this thing. We tinuing resolution, to pass a bill that
down. must restore fiscal sanity to this body. continues this tyranny into December
You know what? Those chickens are Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, may I in-
after there is no accountability, people
going to come home to roost. quire as to how much time I have re-
have lost their elections. There is no
Mr. PERRY. They absolutely are. maining?
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- accountability to offer them yet an-
And like I said, if you are worried other opportunity to continue the tyr-
tleman has 4 minutes remaining.
about the climate, if you are worried Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, I yield to anny.
about fossil fuel use, the most impor- the gentleman from Texas (Mr. ROY). Mr. HIGGINS of Louisiana. It is dan-
tant thing to do, the most responsible Mr. ROY. Mr. Speaker, I mentioned gerous.
thing to do is to do it efficiently. this before, but I think it merits re- Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, how do you
America does it more cleanly and peating, that we are at roughly $31 tril- explain that to your constituents? How
more efficiently than everybody else. lion in debt, as the gentleman said. do you explain, Well, I voted for that
And we have pipelines, but we can’t use If you set out to count to 31 trillion because it is important that Wash-
them. at one Mississippi, it will take you 1 ington, D.C., and all these programs
Like I said: One trip. One way, from million years to count to that. needed your money, needed the money
one tanker. Fifty a day come into the Just to put in perspective what that that you wake up every day and go to
United States. One million gallons is, when I began running for office in work for. They needed it, and you
burned one way for each tanker. So December of 2017, our debt was $21 tril- didn’t.
that is 50 million a day. lion; $10 trillion in 5 years since I Mr. ROY, people in my district pack
Everybody is worried about their began running for office. their lunch at night. They get up early
cars. Nobody gives a hoot about this; Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, it is my while it is still dark. They kiss their
and none of it is necessary. Absolutely understanding, I think that in the last little children that are in their beds
zero of it is necessary. year and three-quarters, the Biden ad- asleep while it is still dark, and they
Mr. Speaker, in this CR, in this con- ministration has racked up more debt leave for work.
tinuing resolution that we are going to than the entire 8 years of the Obama They count on us here to make sure
vote on in this House tomorrow—I administration. that we are faithfully, adequately, ap-
think—even though we say we want to We found that unacceptable, but yet propriately, responsibly spending their
save our country and our citizens, our here we are. And yet, in this body, on hard-earned dollars.
bosses from this tyranny, people are this week, at this time, we are going to Mr. HIGGINS, you talked about this
going to vote for it anyhow: $2 billion vote to just continue like nothing is the other day in conference. Your pay-
for unaccompanied minors flooding the happening, like that is not happening, check. People work hard for it, and
border while doing nothing to solve the like we don’t care. We are going to go they depend on us. And what do we do
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border crisis. home and say, if you elect us, all this with it?
As the good gentleman from Texas stuff is going to end. Yet, we have an Mr. ROY, give us an example. You got
said, how much did we spend from the opportunity in this body to stop it. like a thousand of them there. How do
Department of Homeland Security to All the things that the gentleman we blow it?
secure our border annually? from Texas outlined, the things that I Mr. ROY. Well, I think we have got
Mr. ROY. Close to $60 billion. outlined: about 20 seconds left.
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Mr. PERRY. Go ahead. tion and treatment of global malnutrition partment of Defense, transmitting an inven-
Mr. ROY. All I would say is, if we and to improve the coordination of such pro- tory summary of certain required activities
want to do this, if we want an economy grams, and for other purposes. performed during the preceding fiscal year
that is strong, stop spending money we H.R. 5809. An Act to designate the facility pursuant to staff augmentation contracts
of the United States Postal Service located and contracts closely associated with inher-
don’t have. Stop spending money to at 1801 Town and Country Drive in Norco, ently governmental functions for or on be-
fund the bureaucracy that is going California, as the ‘‘Lance Corporal Kareem half of the Department of Defense, pursuant
after the American people. Nikoui Memorial Post Office Building’’. to 10 U.S.C. 4505(c)(1); Public Law 110-181,
If you want a Nation that is safe, div. A, title VIII, Sec. 807(a), Jan. 28, 2008;
f
stop talking down your cops. Stand (122 Stat. 213); to the Committee on Armed
with your cops. SENATE ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED Services.
If you want a military that is strong, EC–5352. A letter from the Under Sec-
The Speaker announced her signa-
stop being woke. End the woke destruc- retary, Acquisition and Sustainment, De-
ture to enrolled bills of the Senate of partment of Defense, transmitting a memo-
tion of our military. the following titles: randum with the subject: Certifications of
If you want a border that is secure, S. 169.—An act to amend title 17, United Requirements and Funding to Meet Program
secure it. Turn people away. Accept the States Code, to require the Register of Copy- Cost, Schedule, and Performance Objectives
people that need help but turn people rights to waive fees for filing an application and Risk Assessments, pursuant to Sec.
away and actually detain them and for registration of a copyright claim in cer- 4204(d) of Title 10, U.S.C.; to the Committee
stop the control of our borders by car- tain circumstances, and for other purposes. on Armed Services.
tels that are endangering the American S. 442.—An act to amend title 40, United EC–5353. A letter from the Assistant Sec-
people. States Code, to require the Administrator of retary for Legislation, Department of Health
Mr. PERRY. Mr. Speaker, I thank General Services to procure the most life- and Human Services, transmitting the report
cycle cost effective and energy efficient to Congress on Substance Use-Disorder Pre-
the gentleman from Texas (Mr. ROY),
lighting products and to issue guidance on vention that Promotes Opioid Recovery and
the other gentleman from Texas (Mr. the efficiency, effectiveness, and economy of Treatment for Patients and Communities
GOHMERT), and my good friend, the those products, and for other purposes. Act (SUPPORT Act), pursuant to Public Law
gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. HIG- S. 516.—An act to plan for and coordinate 115-271, Sec. 6094(a)(2); (132 Stat. 4003); to the
GINS). efforts to integrate advanced air mobility Committee on Energy and Commerce.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance aircraft into the nationa1 airspace system, EC–5354. A letter from the Secretary, De-
of my time. and for other purposes. partment of the Treasury, transmitting a
S. 1098.—An act to amend the Higher Edu- six-month periodic report on the national
f
cation Act of 1965 to authorize borrowers to emergency with respect to the situation in
ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED separate joint consolidation loans. and in relation to Syria that was declared in
S. 2490.—An act to establish the Blackwell Executive Order 13894 of October 14, 2019, pur-
Cheryl L. Johnson, Clerk of the
School National Historic Site in Marfa, suant to 50 U.S.C. 1641(c); Public Law 94-412,
House, reported and found truly en- Sec. 401(c); (90 Stat. 1257) and 50 U.S.C.
Texas, and for other purposes.
rolled bills of the House of the fol- S. 2771.—An act to designate the commu- 1703(c); Public Law 95-223, Sec 204(c); (91 Stat.
lowing titles, which were thereupon nity-based outpatient clinic of the Depart- 1627); to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
signed by the Speaker: ment of Veterans Affairs in San Angelo, EC–5355. A letter from the Secretary, De-
H.R. 468. An Act to amend title 49, United Texas, as the ‘‘Colonel Charles and JoAnne partment of the Treasury, transmitting a
States Code, to permit the use of incentative Powell Department of Veterans Affairs Clin- semiannual report detailing telecommuni-
payments to expedite certain federal fi- ic’’. cations-related payments made to Cuba pur-
nanced airport development projects. S. 3157.—An act to require the Secretary of suant to Department of the Treasury li-
H.R. 7500. An Act to authorize major med- Labor to conduct a study of the factors af- censes during the period from January 1
ical facility projects for the Department of fecting employment opportunities for immi- through June 30, 2022, pursuant to 22 U.S.C.
Veterans Affairs for fiscal year 2022, and for grants and refugees with professional creden- 6004(e)(6); Public Law 102-484, Sec. 1705(e)(6)
other purposes. tials obtained in foreign countries. (as amended by Public Law 104-114, Sec.
H.R. 7846. An Act to increase, effective as S. 3969.—An act to amend the Help Amer- 102(g)); (110 Stat. 794); to the Committee on
of December 1, 2022, the rates of compensa- ica Vote Act of 2002 to explicitly authorize Foreign Affairs.
tion for veterans with service-connected dis- distribution of grant funds to the voting ac- EC–5356. A letter from the Assistant Sec-
abilities and the rates of dependency and in- cessibility protection and advocacy system retary, Bureau of Legislative Affairs, De-
demnity compensation for the survivors of of the Commonwealth of the Northern Mar- partment of State, transmitting a deter-
certain disabled veterans and for other pur- iana Islands and the system serving the mination under section 506(a)(1) of the For-
poses. American Indian consortium, and for other eign Assistance Act of 1961 (FAA) to Provide
purposes. Military Assistance to Ukraine; to the Com-
Lisa P. Grant, Deputy Clerk of the
S. 4205.—An act to require the Adminis- mittee on Foreign Affairs.
House, further reported and found EC–5357. A letter from the Assistant Sec-
truly enrolled bills of the House of the trator of the Federal Emergency Manage-
ment Agency to establish a working group retary, Bureau of Legislative Affairs, De-
following titles, which were thereupon partment of State, transmitting a Memo-
relating to best practices and Federal guid-
signed by the Speaker: ance for animals in emergencies and disas- randum of Justification to provide military
H.R. 91. An Act to designate the facility of ters, and for other purposes. assistance to Ukraine, Under Section
the United States Postal Service located at S. 4900.—An act to reauthorize the SBIR 506(a)(1) of the Foreign Assistance Act of
810 South Pendleton Street in Easley, South and STTR programs and pilot programs, and 1961; to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
Carolina, as the ‘‘Private First Class Barrett EC–5358. A letter from the Deputy General
for other purposes.
Lyle Austin Post Office Building’’. Counsel for Operations, Department of Hous-
H.R. 92. An Act to designate the facility of f ing and Urban Development, transmitting a
the United States Postal Service located at ADJOURNMENT notification of a nomination, pursuant to 5
110 Johnson Street in Pickens, South Caro- U.S.C. 3349(a); Public Law 105-277, Sec. 151(b);
lina, as the ‘‘Specialist Four Charles John- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- (112 Stat. 2681-614); to the Committee on
son Post Office’’. ant to section 1 of House Resolution Oversight and Reform.
H.R. 2142. An Act to designate the facility 1230, the House stands adjourned until 9 EC–5359. A letter from the Wildlife Biolo-
of the United States Postal Service located a.m. tomorrow. gist, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Migra-
at 170 Manhattan Avenue in Buffalo, New tory Bird Program, Department of the Inte-
Thereupon (at 8 o’clock and 9 min-
York, as the ‘‘Indiana Hunt-Martin Post Of- rior, transmitting the Department’s Major
utes p.m.), under its previous order, the final rule — Migratory Bird Hunting; Migra-
fice Building’’.
H.R. 3508. An Act to designate the facility House adjourned until tomorrow, Fri- tory Bird Hunting Regulations on Certain
of the United States Postal Service located day, September 30, 2022, at 9 a.m. Federal Indian Reservations and Ceded
at 38 West Main Street, in Honeoye Falls, f Lands for the 2022-23 Season [Docket No.:
New York, as the ‘‘CW4 Christian J. Koch FWS-HQ-MB-2021-0057; FF09M30000-223-
Memorial Post Ofice’’. EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS, FXMB1231099BPP0] (RIN: 1018-BF07) received
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H.R. 3539. An Act to designate the facility ETC. September 28, 2022, pursuant to 5 U.S.C.
of the United States Postal Service located Under clause 2 of rule XIV, executive 801(a)(1)(A); Public Law 104-121, Sec. 251; (110
at 223 West Chalan Santo Papa in Hagatna, Stat. 868); to the Committee on Natural Re-
Guam, as the ‘‘Atanasio Taitano Perez Post
communications were taken from the sources.
Office’’. Speaker’s table and referred as follows: EC–5360. A letter from the Deputy Clerk,
H.R. 4693. An Act to advance targeted and EC–5351. A letter from the Under Sec- Office of the Clerk United States Court of
evidence-based interventions for the preven- retary, Acquisition and Sustainment, De- Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, transmitting
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