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House of Representatives proceedings from the Congressional Record for Thursday, September 22, 2022, Volume 168, No. 153. The House met at 9 a.m. and was called to order by the Speaker, with Mr. Flood leading the Pledge of Allegiance and Chaplain Margaret Grun Kibben offering the prayer. The text includes a resolution providing for consideration of a bill to establish a grant program for a violent incident clearance and technology investigative method, with all points of order against consideration waived. The Chair later declares the House in recess subject to the call of the Chair, and a roll call listing follows.
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117 th CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION
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of America PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE
Vol. 168 WASHINGTON, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2022 No. 153
House of Representatives
The House met at 9 a.m. and was ward and lead the House in the Pledge eral to establish a grant program to estab-
called to order by the Speaker. of Allegiance. lish, create, and administer the violent inci-
Mr. FLOOD led the Pledge of Alle- dent clearance and technology investigative
f method, and for other purposes. All points of
giance as follows: order against consideration of the bill are
PRAYER
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the waived. In lieu of the amendment in the na-
The Chaplain, the Reverend Margaret United States of America, and to the Repub- ture of a substitute recommended by the
Grun Kibben, offered the following lic for which it stands, one nation under God, Committee on the Judiciary now printed in
prayer: indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the bill, an amendment in the nature of a
Holy God, we know that You desire f substitute consisting of the text of Rules
to set Your truth deep in our spirits, Committee Print 117-62, modified by the
and we ask that You come to the hid- PROVIDING FOR CONSIDERATION amendment printed in the report of the Com-
OF H.R. 4118, BREAK THE CYCLE mittee on Rules accompanying this resolu-
den places of our hearts. Deepen Your tion, shall be considered as adopted. The bill,
truth in our souls. Speak to us there OF VIOLENCE ACT; PROVIDING
as amended, shall be considered as read. All
and teach us wisdom. FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. points of order against provisions in the bill,
Create in us clean hearts. Fill our 5768, VIOLENT INCIDENT CLEAR- as amended, are waived. The previous ques-
minds with pure thoughts and holy de- ANCE AND TECHNOLOGICAL IN- tion shall be considered as ordered on the
sires. Then may we be found ready and VESTIGATIVE METHODS ACT OF bill, as amended, and on any further amend-
willing to do the work You put before 2022; PROVIDING FOR CONSIDER- ment thereto, to final passage without inter-
ATION OF H.R. 6448, INVEST TO vening motion except: (1) 30 minutes of de-
us. bate equally divided and controlled by the
Delight in us today. May the words of PROTECT ACT OF 2022; AND PRO-
chair and ranking minority member of the
our mouths, the thoughts in our heads, VIDING FOR CONSIDERATION OF Committee on the Judiciary or their respec-
and the meditations of our hearts be H.R. 8542, MENTAL HEALTH JUS- tive designees; and (2) one motion to recom-
acceptable to You. TICE ACT OF 2022 mit.
For Your pleasure is not to be found Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, by SEC. 3. Upon adoption of this resolution it
shall be in order to consider in the House the
in our performance. Our sacrifice of direction of the Committee on Rules, I bill (H.R. 6448) to direct the Director of the
time and service do not impress You. call up House Resolution 1377 and ask Office of Community Oriented Policing Serv-
But You desire a contrite heart, a for its immediate consideration. ices of the Department of Justice to carry
yielding spirit, a kind word, and a gra- The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- out a grant program to provide assistance to
cious attitude. lows: police departments with fewer than 200 law
Lord, unlock our hearts and open our H. RES. 1377 enforcement officers, and for other purposes.
lips that from them will pour out All points of order against consideration of
Resolved, That upon adoption of this reso- the bill are waived. An amendment in the na-
thankfulness and praise. Then may our lution it shall be in order to consider in the ture of a substitute consisting of the text of
joy be a blessing to those whom we en- House the bill (H.R. 4118) to authorize the Rules Committee Print 117-65 shall be con-
counter this day. Secretary of Health and Human Services to sidered as adopted. The bill, as amended,
In Your gracious name, we pray. build safer, thriving communities, and save shall be considered as read. All points of
Amen. lives, by investing in effective community- order against provisions in the bill, as
based violence reduction initiatives, and for amended, are waived. The previous question
f other purposes. All points of order against shall be considered as ordered on the bill, as
THE JOURNAL consideration of the bill are waived. The bill amended, and on any further amendment
shall be considered as read. All points of thereto, to final passage without intervening
The SPEAKER. The Chair has exam- order against provisions in the bill are motion except: (1) 30 minutes of debate
ined the Journal of the last day’s pro- waived. The previous question shall be con- equally divided and controlled by the chair
ceedings and announces to the Cham- sidered as ordered on the bill and on any and ranking minority member of the Com-
ber her approval thereof. amendment thereto to final passage without mittee on the Judiciary or their respective
Pursuant to clause 1 of rule I, the intervening motion except: (1) 30 minutes of designees; and (2) one motion to recommit.
Journal of the last day’s proceedings is debate equally divided and controlled by the SEC. 4. Upon adoption of this resolution it
chair and ranking minority member of the shall be in order to consider in the House the
approved.
Committee on the Judiciary or their respec- bill (H.R. 8542) to amend the Public Health
f tive designees; and (2) one motion to recom- Service Act to authorize grants to States,
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE mit. Indian Tribes, Tribal organizations, Urban
SEC. 2. Upon adoption of this resolution it Indian organizations, and political subdivi-
The SPEAKER. Will the gentleman shall be in order to consider in the House the sions thereof to hire, employ, train, and dis-
from Nebraska (Mr. FLOOD) come for- bill (H.R. 5768) to direct the Attorney Gen- patch mental health professionals to respond
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in lieu of law enforcement officers in emer- The Mental Health Justice Act cre- tive reaction Democrats have experi-
gencies involving one or more persons with a ates a grant program for States and enced as a result of these continued
mental illness or an intellectual or develop- local governments to train and dis- calls while crime is understandably
mental disability, and for other purposes. All
points of order against consideration of the patch mental health professionals to skyrocketing.
bill are waived. The bill shall be considered respond to emergencies that involve The VICTIM Act creates a new Fed-
as read. All points of order against provi- people with behavioral needs. eral grant program to help local gov-
sions in the bill are waived. The previous The VICTIM Act establishes a grant ernments cut down on homicide and
question shall be considered as ordered on program to hire, train, and retain de- nonfatal shooting backlogs. The funds
the bill and on any amendment thereto to tectives and victim services personnel can be used for hiring and training de-
final passage without intervening motion ex-
to investigate shootings and support tectives and processing personnel, up-
cept: (1) 30 minutes of debate equally divided
and controlled by the chair and ranking mi- victims. grading or replacing investigative or
nority member of the Committee on Energy The Break the Cycle of Violence Act evidence-processing technology, and
and Commerce or their respective designees; provides grants to communities for evi- improving resources for victims and
and (2) one motion to recommit. dence-based community violence inter- their families.
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mrs. vention and prevention programs de- First of all, these programs largely
DEMINGS). The gentleman from Massa- signed to interrupt cycles of violence. replicate existing programs managed
chusetts is recognized for 1 hour. The Invest to Protect Act creates a by the Department of Justice. This,
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, for grant program to provide police depart- again, reminds us of why we have been
the purpose of debate only, I yield the ments of fewer than 125 officers train- called to this debate. It is not to solve
customary 30 minutes to the gentle- ing resources for calls involving people a problem. It is so that my Democrat
woman from Minnesota (Mrs. with substance use disorders, mental colleagues can look like they are solv-
FISCHBACH), pending which I yield my- health needs, and for people with dis- ing problems. Furthermore, programs
self such time as I may consume. Dur- abilities. like this would not be needed if the left
ing consideration of this resolution, all I am glad that we are moving forward had not prioritized defunding the police
time yielded is for the purpose of de- today. I am thankful to my colleagues over keeping our country’s citizens
bate only. who have worked on these bills. safe.
GENERAL LEAVE Do I want more? This bill effectively bails out govern-
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I Of course. ments like Austin, Philadelphia, and
ask unanimous consent that all Mem- Will I keep fighting for us to do Rochester, New York, that decreased
bers be given 5 legislative days to re- more? police budgets over the years.
vise and extend their remarks. Absolutely. The Invest to Protect Act expands
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there The truth is we still haven’t made COPS grant programs to include police
objection to the request of the gen- meaningful gains when it comes to ac- departments with fewer than 125 law
tleman from Massachusetts? countability. The House passed the enforcement officers. Funds may be
There was no objection. George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. used for training, body cameras, sign-
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, Sadly, the Senate is yet to act on that ing and retention bonuses, and pro-
yesterday the Rules Committee met bill. viding access to mental health serv-
and reported a rule, House Resolution But I don’t want the perfect to be the ices.
1377, providing for consideration of four enemy of the good, and if you don’t Just to point out, there is a clause in
measures: H.R. 4118, H.R. 6448; H.R. like what is in one of these bills or all this bill that explicitly says that the
5768, and H.R. 8542, all under closed of them, then you can vote against Attorney General can give preference
rules. them. But I strongly urge everybody on
For H.R. 4118 and H.R. 6448, the rule to activities that have nothing to do
both sides of the aisle to vote ‘‘yes’’ on with recruitment or retention.
provides 30 minutes of general debate the rule so we can at least move this
equally divided and controlled by the Madam Speaker, the left has been ac-
forward and have the opportunity to tively fighting against law enforce-
chair and ranking minority member of debate these measures.
the Committee on the Judiciary for ment, and, as a result, the American
I am confident that many of the pro- people are angry. They are angry about
each bill and motions to recommit for visions of these four bills will help save
each measure. the increases in violent crimes across
lives. But this conversation can’t end the country, and they are angry about
For H.R. 5768, the rule provides 30
here. We need to keep making our com- repeat offenders being released to com-
minutes of general debate equally di-
munities safer in new, innovative, and mit even more serious crimes.
vided and controlled by the chair and
imaginative ways. We can start by
ranking minority member of the Com-
passing this rule and passing the un- b 0915
mittee on the Judiciary, self-executes
derlying legislation. They are angry that even after mak-
a manager’s amendment from Chair-
Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- ing these concerns clear, Democrats
man NADLER, and provides a motion to
ance of my time. have been ignoring them in favor of an
recommit.
For H.R. 8542, the bill provides 30 Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, I extreme anti-police agenda. This is a
minutes of general debate equally di- thank the Representative and my col- last-ditch effort for them to act like
vided and controlled by the chair and league on the Rules Committee from they are not deeply out of touch with
ranking minority member of the Com- Massachusetts for yielding me the cus- the country, coming just in time to see
mittee on Energy and Commerce and a tomary 30 minutes, and I yield myself the results from election polling.
motion to recommit. such time as I may consume. This is an effort to sweep under the
Madam Speaker, Democrats in this Madam Speaker, this morning we are rug that my colleagues in the majority
Congress have been focused on building here to debate a rule providing for a se- will seek private security while simul-
safer communities since day one. We ries of bills that have been noticed taneously seeking cuts to police budg-
believe that every child in America de- multiple times going back as far as ets. My colleagues in the majority
serves the safety and security of grow- July. But we in the Rules Committee want to distract from the statements
ing up in a community free from vio- were given 1 hour to consider the of their Members that apparently
lence, trusting that the people who changes that have been negotiated—ne- defunding the police is only one step
keep them safe will do that regardless gotiated internally—within the major- toward fully dismantling police depart-
of the color of their skin or the ZIP ity conference with no minority input. ments.
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Code that they live in. We believe that Presumably, the changes were made at My colleagues want to distract from
the need to fight crime and improve the behest of the leftwing defund-the- the fact that even some of the most
safety in our communities should unite police activists who, unfortunately, senior officials of the Biden adminis-
us, not divide us. have become the loudest voice in their tration are echoing or applauding ef-
These are good bills that we are con- party. forts to reduce budgets of law enforce-
sidering today that will make our com- It seems to me that these bills are a ment. Despite this hollow effort, I am
munities safer. very transparent response to the nega- confident the American people see
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right through this charade and view honor all law enforcement who responded on these things up right now is all about.
this for what it is, a political exercise. Jan. 6 or to award the Congressional Gold They are good bills that will help make
Madam Speaker, I oppose the rule, I Medal to one officer in particular, Capitol our community safer. Look, I trust
ask Members to do the same, and I re- Police Officer Eugene Goodman, who single-
that we pass the rule. Some thoughtful
handedly diverted an angry mob away from
serve the balance of my time. the Senate chamber. Republicans will vote in favor of some
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I The Senate had already unanimously voted of them or all of them.
yield myself such time as I may con- to give the Gold Medal exclusively to Good- If you don’t believe that this is an
sume. man. The medal, bestowed by Congress, is a appropriate thing to do, then you can
Madam Speaker, I have great respect symbol of national appreciation for distin- vote ‘‘no.’’ That is your right, and you
for my colleague from Minnesota and guished achievements. can go home and explain it to your
appreciate serving with her on the Ultimately, both chambers agreed to constituents.
Rules Committee, but I think the only slightly modify the House legislation. Four Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal-
Gold Medals will be awarded: one for the ance of my time.
talk about politics here is from the
Capitol Police, one for the D.C. police, an- Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, I
gentlewoman from Minnesota. other for the Smithsonian Institution and
She talks about defunding the police. another to be displayed inside the Capitol
yield myself such time as I may con-
The bills that are before us are grant building along with a plaque that names all sume.
programs. So I am not sure what she is law enforcement agencies who helped repel Madam Speaker, I believe it is two
talking about. If you want to talk the rioters that day. bills that are different, but we can
about politics, fine, let’s talk about On Tuesday, Gooden, one of the 12 House check on that just to make sure that
voting records. Republicans who voted against the legisla- we understand what is going on.
Madam Speaker, I include in the tion in March, voted in favor of the new bill. To further illustrate the political
But the number of opposing votes grew, charade, my colleagues in the majority
RECORD a Washington Post article ti- with 10 other House Republicans switching
tled ‘‘21 House Republicans vote have blocked any effort to include
their votes from ‘‘yes’’ to ‘‘no.’’
against awarding Congressional Gold Those Republicans are Reps. Lauren
thoughtful policy solutions proposed
Medal to all police officers who re- Boebert (Colo.), Barry Moore (Ala.), Ralph by House Republicans.
sponded on January 6.’’ Norman (S.C.), Matthew M. Rosendale In the Rules Committee, I even of-
(Mont.), Chip Roy (Tex.), Paul A. Gosar fered a motion to consider a bill I pro-
[From the Washington Post, June 15, 2022] posed earlier this year to support our
(Ariz.), Warren Davidson (Ohio), Scott Perry
21 HOUSE REPUBLICANS VOTE AGAINST AWARD- (Pa.), Jody Hice (Ga.) and Mary Miller (Ill.). law enforcement’s efforts to train our
ING CONGRESSIONAL GOLD MEDAL TO ALL Some of those who voted ‘‘no’’ on Tuesday next generation of peace officers. H.R.
POLICE OFFICERS WHO RESPONDED ON JAN. 6 said they objected to the use of the words 7421, the Law Enforcement Education
(By Felicia Sonmez) ‘‘temple’’ or ‘‘insurrection’’ in the resolu- Grant Program Act of 2022, was a prod-
Twenty-one House Republicans on Tuesday tion.
‘‘I wouldn’t call it an insurrection,’’
uct of discussions with Minnesota
voted against awarding the Congressional
Greene said, according to Politico. State patrol officers and other mem-
Gold Medal to all police officers who re-
sponded to the Jan. 6 violent attack on the Some House Republicans, such as Clyde, bers of the local community regarding
Capitol by a pro-Trump mob. have sought to recast the violent mob’s ac- the difficulty of not only hiring new of-
The measure passed the House with over- tions on Jan. 6 as little different from a ficers but even finding potential re-
whelming bipartisan support from 406 law- ‘‘normal tourist visit’’ to the Capitol. Others cruits.
makers. But the 21 Republicans who voted have sought to play down that day’s events Police departments across the coun-
‘‘no’’ drew immediate condemnation from in different ways. try are experiencing a serious shortage
some of their colleagues, and the vote under- During the storming of the Capitol on Jan. of officers. This lack of qualified offi-
scored the lingering tensions in Congress 6, rioters attempted to break into the House
chamber, punching and busting glass, result-
cers has led to a drastic increase in
amid efforts by some GOP lawmakers to
ing in the death of Ashli Babbitt, whom po- crime. We need to invest in recruiting
whitewash the events of that day.
Rep. Robert C. ‘‘Bobby’’ Scott (D-Va.) lice shot when she attempted to climb a number of well-trained and highly
called the ‘‘no’’ votes ‘‘a sad commentary on through a shattered glass door. educated police officers to help keep
the @HouseGOP,’’ while Rep. Adam Gosar has previously claimed that Babbitt our communities safe.
Kinzinger (R-Ill.) declared, ‘‘How you can had been ‘‘executed’’—even though she defied This bill provides education grants of
vote no to this is beyond me.’’ police warnings and the officer who fatally up to $4,000 per year, not exceeding
‘‘Then again, denying an insurrection is as shot her was cleared of any criminal wrong- $16,000 total, to a student who is pur-
well,’’ Kinzinger, a vocal critic of former doing. suing their first degree in a law en-
president Donald Trump, said in a tweet. Gosar did so again Tuesday, claiming dur-
ing a House hearing that a Capitol Police of-
forcement or criminal justice-related
‘‘To the brave Capitol (and DC metro PD)
thank you. To the 21: they will continue to ficer was ‘‘lying in wait’’ for Babbitt and field. As a requirement of receiving the
defend your right to vote no anyway.’’ that she was ‘‘executed,’’ Politico reported. grant, the applicant must commit to
In an interview on CNN Tuesday night, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), who was ousted serving as a full-time law enforcement
Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) called the 21 from House Republican leadership over her officer for 4 years within an 8-year pe-
‘‘no’’ votes ‘‘a new low for this crowd.’’ criticism of Trump’s role in the Jan. 6 insur- riod of completing their studies.
‘‘They voted to overturn an election. But rection, denounced Gosar’s remarks Tuesday In order to instill integrity of the
in their vote today, they kind of sealed the evening. program and prevent abuse, if an appli-
deal of basically affiliating with the mob,’’ Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, cant fails to complete their service re-
Connolly said. ‘‘They now are part of the in-
you heard that right: 21 of our col- quirements, the grants will be con-
surrectionist mob. They brought enormous
disrepute and dishonor on themselves in not leagues across the aisle opposed a sim- verted back into a loan and the appli-
honoring the brave men and women who de- ple bill honoring the heroes of January cant will be required to pay it back.
fended the Capitol of the United States—ev- 6; officers who now bear physical and In order to ensure flexibility over
erybody in it, but also defending the symbol psychological scars from that day be- what education program best fits the
of democracy in the world, not just here in cause they fought to protect us in the student, the grants are distributed di-
the United States.’’ Capitol. It is disgraceful. Yet, nothing rectly to candidates, not educational
In March, when an initial version of the
about that from the other side of the institutions. In addition, the cur-
legislation was brought to the House floor, a
dozen Republicans voted against the meas- aisle in terms of just how disgraceful riculum at an institution must have
ure. Many of those who voted ‘‘no’’ said they that was. been approved by the State’s Police Of-
objected to the use of the term ‘‘insurrec- You can talk politics, but if you want ficer Standard and Training Board, or
tionists’’ in the resolution. to talk about the substance of these the related State agency.
Those GOP lawmakers included Reps. bills, then do so and acknowledge what Finally, there are exemptions from
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Andy Biggs (Ariz.), Thomas Massie (Ky.), they are. They are bills that will help the clawback bill for officers who are
Andy Harris (Md.), Lance Gooden (Tex.), make our community safer. They are injured in the line of duty and cannot
Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Marjorie Taylor Greene serve out their 4-year requirement.
bills that, quite frankly—I should also
(Ga.), Louie Gohmert (Tex.), Michael Cloud
(Tex.), Andrew S. Clyde (Ga.), Greg Steube point out that I think all but one of the These are the types of solutions that
(Fla.), Bob Good (Va.) and John Rose (Tenn.). bills is the same as they were in July. the majority refuses to even debate or
The House and Senate then remained in a I am not quite sure what the fuss bring forward under this rule. It fur-
standoff for three months over whether to over the fact that we are bringing ther supports my argument that this is
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simply political theatre, covering up NATIONAL FRATERNAL The Active Shooter Alert Coordinator, in co-
for years of dangerous and irrespon- ORDER OF POLICE, ordination with other Federal components
sible rhetoric that has put law enforce- Washington DC, 13 June 2022. like the Federal Emergency Management
Hon. JERROLD L. NADLER, Agency (FEMA), the U.S. Department of
ment in harm’s way time and time
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary, Transportation (DOT), and the Federal Com-
again. House of Representatives, Washington, DC. munications Commission (FCC), would de-
I would just like to add that there Hon. JAMES D. JORDAN, velop best practices and training on the use
are many, many good and positive Re- Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary, of a secure communications system during
publican proposals out there that the House of Representatives, Washington DC. an active shooter event. We believe as you
majority refuses to even consider in DEAR REPRESENTATIVES NADLER AND JOR- all do—having a network for informing the
DAN: I am writing on behalf of the members public during these critical incidents will
committee, and this is just one exam-
of the Fraternal Order of Police to advise save lives.
ple of those. you of our support for H.R. 5768, the ‘‘Violent On behalf of the more than 364,000 members
Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- Incident Clearance and Technological Inves- of the Fraternal Order of Police, I am proud
ance of my time. tigative Methods (VICTIM) Act’’ and H.R. to offer our support for these pieces of legis-
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I 6528, the ‘‘Active Shooter Alert Act’’ and to lation.
yield myself such time as I may con- urge the Committee to favorably report Sincerely,
sume. these bills. PATRICK YOES,
In 2020, the United States saw the largest National President.
Madam Speaker, just for the record,
rise in homicides since the start of national
because I think it is important to have record-keeping in 1960. Approximately 21,570 INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF
an accurate record, the text of three of people were murdered in the United States in CHIEFS OF POLICE,
these bills has been available for over a 2020—the most since 1995—and a 29.4 percent Alexandria, VA, June 14, 2022.
month. Even the manager’s amend- increase over 2019. Additionally, the FBI es- Hon. JERROLD NADLER,
ment on the VICTIM Act of 2022, which timates that 77 percent of all murders in the Chair, Committee on the Judiciary,
the distinguished gentlewoman from United States in 2020 were via firearms, up House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Florida (Mrs. DEMINGS) has introduced from 73 percent in 2019. At the same time Hon. JIM JORDAN,
that the murder rate rose, the clearance rate Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary,
has been available for almost a month.
for murders fell significantly, from 61.4 per- House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Again, the only one talking about cent in 2019 to 54.4 percent in 2020. In cities DEAR CHAIR NADLER AND RANKING MEMBER
politics is the gentlewoman from Min- with a population above 250,000, the rate was JORDAN: On behalf of the International Asso-
nesota, but I guess that is all they even more dramatic, falling from 57.6 per- ciation of Chiefs of Police (IACP), I am writ-
have. cent in 2019 to 47.3 percent in 2020. ing to express our strong support for H.R.
Madam Speaker, I include in the Homicide cases can be very difficult to 5768, the Violent Incident Clearance and
RECORD letters in support of the VIC- clear—especially those committed via a fire- Technological Investigative Methods Act of
arm—and non-fatal shootings even more so. 2021’’ (VICTIM Act). By providing dedicated
TIM Act of 2022 from the National As- Closing these types of crimes requires dili- resources to law enforcement agencies to en-
sociation of Police Organizations, from gence, manpower, and a sustained investiga- hance their abilities to successfully inves-
the National Fraternal Order of Police, tive effort. Given the limited resources of tigate violent criminal acts, the VICTIM Act
from the International Association of law enforcement agencies, it’s important to will bring justice to victims, remove violent
Chiefs of Police, from the National Po- provide the significant, dedicated resources offenders from our communities and bring
lice Foundation, all in support of the that clearing these crimes requires, espe- closure to families.
VICTIM Act. cially given their oftentimes heinous nature. Specifically, the VICTIM Act would,
The VICTIM Act would establish a grant through a newly established a Department of
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF program administered by the U.S. Depart- Justice grant program, provide state, tribal
POLICE ORGANIZATIONS, INC., ment of Justice (DOJ) to help State, Tribal, and local law enforcement agencies with
Alexandria, VA, June 14, 2022. and local law enforcement agencies improve much needed resources to assist them in en-
Hon. JERROLD NADLER, their clearance rates for homicides and non- hancing their investigatory capabilities.
Chair, Committee on the Judiciary, fatal shootings. Agencies can use these grant This includes allowing agencies to:
House of Representatives, Washington, DC. funds to train or hire additional detectives, hire and retain detectives to investigate
Hon. JIM JORDAN, investigators, or other police personnel that homicide and non-fatal shootings;
Ranking Member, Committee on the Judiciary, can investigate, solve, and respond to homi- acquire resources for processing evidence,
House of Representatives, Washington, DC. cides and non-fatal shootings. The grants including the hiring of additional personnel;
DEAR CHAIRMAN NADLER AND RANKING can also be used to improve training for hire personnel trained to analyze criminal
MEMBER JORDAN: On behalf of the National agency personnel to address the needs of vic- intelligence and crime trends;
Association of Police Organizations (NAPO), tims and family members of homicides and ensure victim services are sufficiently
representing over 241,000 sworn law enforce- non-fatal shootings. staffed, funded, and trained.
ment officers across the United States, I am These important resources would improve The IACP urges the Judiciary Committee
writing to advise you of our support for the law enforcement agencies’ abilities to close and the members of the United States House
Violent Incident Clearance and Techno- homicide cases, which would punish the per- of Representative to support and approve
logical Investigative Methods (VICTIM) Act, petrators of these crimes, provide justice for H.R. 5768.
H.R. 5768, and thank the Committee for con- the victims and their families, and grant Sincerely,
sidering this legislation. peace of mind for communities and the dedi- CHIEF DWIGHT E. HENNINGER,
Our nation’s cities and communities are cated law enforcement officers that serve IACP President.
experiencing a historic rise in violent crime. them.
Murders and non-fatal shootings are going Active shooter events, however, are not NATIONAL POLICE FOUNDATION,
unresolved at higher rates as law enforce- like normal firearms homicides cases. Rath- February 18, 2022.
ment agencies do not have the officers and er than focusing on investigative methods Hon. VAL DEMINGS,
resources to dedicate to improving clearance after the fact, these kinds of events place a House of Representatives,
rates for these horrendous crimes. The VIC- premium on the abilities of law enforcement Washington, DC.
TIM Act will help address this issue by sup- to quickly react to a fluid and oftentimes DEAR REP. DEMINGS: I write on behalf of
plying much needed grant funding to agen- unclear situation. Responding to an active the National Police Foundation to enthu-
cies to fill, replenish, train, and support shooter event is chaotic and can be fraught siastically support H.R. 5768, the VICTIM
their detective and homicide personnel. with peril, especially when the incident is Act. The National Police Foundation is an
Through this legislation, law enforcement not confined to one location. Law enforce- independent and nonpartisan organization
will be able to focus on solving these violent ment officers must prioritize preserving lives dedicated to advancing policing through in-
crimes that have such a detrimental impact and ending the threat. Simultaneously, they novation and science.
on our communities and improve the serv- need a way to notify the public about the in- Many communities across America are
ices that they render to victims. cident, whether that is to avoid a certain dealing with increases in crime or concerns
We urge the Committee to join us in sup- area, shelter in place, or announce when the over their continued safety. In many places,
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port of the VICTIM Act and we look forward area is once again safe. The ‘‘Active Shooter violent crime and shootings have increased
to working with you to ensure law enforce- Alert Act’’ is designed to improve the ways exponentially.
ment agencies have the support and re- officers and agencies communicate with the The grants authorized in the VICTIM Act
sources necessary to serve and protect our public about active threats. will help law enforcement agencies overcome
communities. The bill would establish a national coordi- some of the challenges associated with re-
Sincerely, nator within the U.S. Department of Justice sponding to the current increase in violent
WILLIAM J. JOHNSON, Esq., (DOJ) to set up and administer an Active crime. More specifically, this bill will pro-
Executive Director. Shooter Alert Communications Network. vide law enforcement with critical resources
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September 22, 2022 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H8073
to address staffing challenges, enhance their extremist groups that attacked the U.S. Cap- want to promote safer communities,
forensics capabilities, further deploy inves- itol last year. then you will support them. If you
tigative technologies, and provide services to The hypocrisy over opposing defunding the want to just do politics as usual, then
victims of violent crime and their families. police in 2020, but calling for the FBI to be
Thank you for your continued leadership
you will follow the lead of my col-
defunded now, is clear—though not at all
and support for America’s law enforcement atypical. Trump loyalists have done versions league from Minnesota and vote
officers and all the people they serve. We of this before. against them.
look forward to seeing this bill become law ‘‘Lock her up,’’ they chanted, as 2016 Madam Speaker, these are good bills,
and the resources getting into the hands of Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary and I reserve the balance of my time.
law enforcement where they are so critically Clinton was accused of storing classified in- Mrs. FISCHBACH. Mr. Speaker, I
needed. We commend you and the other formation on private, unencrypted email yield myself such time as I may con-
sponsors for your commitment to funding servers in her home. Paradoxically, a version sume.
the police and giving them the tools they of this is why FBI agents searched Trump’s Madam Speaker, my colleague from
need to protect and serve. Florida estate this week.
Sincerely,
Massachusetts says, oh, these were
The same group that reached determina-
JIM BURCH, tions of Clinton’s guilt before, during, and available; these were available for over
President. after the investigation of her swiftly deter- a month.
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I mined that the FBI is wrong about Trump Then my question would be: Then
would respectfully suggest to my col- and should therefore be defunded. why the emergency meeting yesterday?
league that they are supporting this
Another example are the ‘‘My Body, My Why, with an hour’s notice, the Rules
Choice’’ posters that many Trump sup- Committee is called together to push
legislation not because of politics, they porters carried during rallies held through-
are supporting it because they think it these bills through, other than some
out the pandemic to oppose masking and kind of political charade to get these
is actually good for our communities vaccine mandates. That phrase had been long
and will make our communities safer. used in pro-choice demonstrations. Most
bills to the floor today at 9 o’clock in
Madam Speaker, I include in the Trump supporters aren’t pro-choice, right? the morning with very little notice?
The opposition of President Barack Obama It seems to me that as much as he
RECORD a Forbes article titled ‘‘Trump
nominating Merrick Garland for the Su- says there are no changes, and that
Loyalists’ Calls To Defund the FBI,
preme Court seat that became vacant eight they have been available, still, an
and Other Hypocrisies.’’ months prior to the 2016 election is a third emergency meeting with an hour’s no-
[From Forbes, Aug. 12, 2022] example of hypocrisy. Trump supporters and tice at 3:25 in the afternoon yesterday,
TRUMP LOYALISTS’ CALLS TO DEFUND THE other GOP members successfully argued that it seems like they are pushing things
FBI, AND OTHER HYPOCRISIES an outgoing president shouldn’t have the au-
through without the notice that the
(By Shaun Harper) thority to nominate a new justice to the
Court with so little time remaining in his American people and the Members of
Federal Bureau of Investigation agents ex- Congress deserve.
ecuted a warrant to search former U.S. tenure. Yet, many of those same politicians
and other conservatives were fully on board Our Nation’s law enforcement offi-
President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate
in Palm Beach, Florida this week. They were with Trump nominating Amy Coney Barrett cers put on a badge every day and
reportedly looking for classified documents to the Supreme Court just 38 days before the bravely put themselves in harm’s way
that weren’t supposed to leave the White 2020 presidential election. to keep our communities safe. The past
House during the presidential transition. And then there is the racialized double few years have been especially dan-
standard that played out in the January 6
Materials for which the FBI was looking ap- gerous for America’s police as a direct
parently have national security implica- Capitol Insurrection. On June 1, 2020, a group
of mostly peaceful demonstrators gathered result of the Democrat-led defund the
tions. In a press conference yesterday, Attor- police movement, and their soft-on-
ney General Merrick Garland said he ‘‘per- near the White House to protest George
Floyd’s murder. They killed no one and did crime policies.
sonally approved’’ the search of Trump’s
home. no damage to the White House or any other Cities across the country have suf-
Shockingly and ironically, many Trump federal building. But Trump still called in fered a dramatic increase in crime.
loyalists are calling for the FBI to be the National Guard to aggressively remove Carjacking and smash-and-grab rob-
defunded. them from the streets. His supporters de- beries are now common. Last year,
Following the police-executed murders of fended the president’s decision. Just six major cities broke their annual homi-
George Floyd and Breonna Taylor in 2020, months later, hundreds of angry Trump loy-
alists, most of them white, violently at-
cide records. The national rise in crime
Black Lives Matter activists and other has devastating costs for the commu-
Americans called for a defunding of police tacked the U.S. Capitol. Their actions re-
sulted in five deaths and the injuries of 140 nities and, also, for local police.
departments across the country. Trump,
most of his supporters, and several others law enforcement officers. In California, Kern County Deputy
fiercely rejected this proposal. They praised The inescapably obvious role that race Sheriff Phillip Campas was killed in
law enforcement officers and advanced what played in the January 6 insurrection hasn’t the line of duty after his SWAT team
became known as the ‘‘Blue Lives Matter’’ been talked about much, if at all, in the re- responded to a domestic violence call.
campaign. There was occasional acknowledg- cent congressional hearings. Had Black He was a marine veteran and a dedi-
ment that a small number of bad apples Americans attacked the Capitol, I am cer-
cated father whose legacy of heroism
sometimes engage in bad behaviors. But sys- tain that Trump supporters, as well as other
conservatives and liberals alike, would have will never be forgotten.
temic racism in policing? Absolutely not. In New York, New York City Police
Opponents of the defund the police move- reached near-unanimous agreement on what
ment loudly applauded the bravery, sac- happened that day and the necessary legal Officer Vogel was seen running through
rifice, and integrity of law enforcement offi- repercussions. I also remain convinced that Times Square toward an ambulance
cers. most Black protestors would have been im- after saving a 4-year-old girl who had
Trump supporters who opposed defunding mediately killed had they scaled and other- been struck by a stray bullet. The offi-
the police two years ago are now calling for wise violently entered any federal building, cer’s bravery and quick thinking made
the FBI, a law enforcement agency, to be let alone the one in which Vice President
all the difference in getting the girl to
defunded. Among them is Florida Republican Mike Pence and congresspersons were meet-
ing at the time. Trump and his loyalists safety.
congressional candidate Anthony Sabatini, In Alabama, Wilcox County Con-
who in a CNN interview deemed the FBI ‘‘to- surely would’ve argued those Black insurrec-
tally useless.’’ He also wants FBI agents to tionists deserved whatever law enforcement stable Madison Nicholson, who had pro-
be arrested. officers did to them that day, hence the hy- tected his community for over 40 years,
Garland, our nation’s top cop, ‘‘needs to be pocrisy. was shot and killed in the line of duty
assassinated,’’ one person who may (or may Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I when he and a sheriff’s deputy were re-
not) be a Trump supporter tweeted. This is remind my Republican colleagues that sponding to a domestic disturbance.
just one of many social media posts this just last month a number of them Our police are under attack like
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week calling for violence against the Attor- openly and unabashedly messaged never before. According to the FBI,
ney General and the FBI. Ricky Shiffer, an around defunding and dismantling the more police officers were murdered in
armed man who allegedly fired into an FBI
FBI. Some even sold campaign mer- the line of duty during President
office building with a nail gun and was
armed with an AR-15-style rifle, was killed chandise with that tagline. Let that Biden’s first year in office than in any
following a car chase and standoff with law sink in, I would say to my colleagues. year since 1995. Many of them were
enforcement officers in Cincinnati yester- In any event, pass the rule. Let’s killed in ambush-style or unprovoked
day. Shiffer was allegedly part of pro-Trump have the debate on these bills. If you attacks.
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Not only have calls to defund, dis- the U.S., contributing to the crisis. Accord- lead them, President Biden, on March 31,
mantle, or abolish the police that come ing to the Centers for Disease Control and 2021, announced his intention to include $5
from the activists, or even within the Prevention, there were 39,707 deaths in 2019, billion for gun violence prevention programs
the most recent year for which government in the American Jobs Plan. This builds on
Halls of Congress, have created a more data is available with 14,414 of those being the efforts of Senator Booker and Represent-
treacherous climate for officers, but it gun homicides. The Gun Violence Archive, a ative Horsford to pass the Break the Cycle of
has also negatively impacted morale non-profit organization that tracks and doc- Violence Act, first introduced in the 116th
among the police. uments gun injuries and deaths, published Congress. If passed, it would provide funding
Nationwide, law enforcement agen- data in May 2021 indicating that the number for federal grants to communities that expe-
cies are short 7 percent of filling budg- of deaths in 2020 had risen to a staggering rience 20 or more homicides per year and
eted positions, and retirements are up 43,554 with 19,398 of those being gun homi- have a homicide rate at least twice the na-
45 percent. Law enforcement is our es- cides. tional average, or communities that dem-
Evidence-based, community violence pre- onstrate a unique and compelling need for
sential line of defense in maintaining vention programs have been proven to reduce additional resources to address gun and
law and order. They deserve America’s gun violence and save lives, while investing group-related violence. Each grant awarded
and Congress’ full support. resources in impacted communities. There would be renewable over five years, and
House Republicans are grateful to are three well-established models of gun vio- funds would be commensurate with the scope
our law enforcement officers for their lence prevention programs that have proven of the proposal and the demonstrated need.
service to our communities and under- successful in reducing violence, some of While it is impossible to place a dollar
stand the incredible commitment they which are referenced in both President amount on a person’s life or the cost of that
make in choosing to wear the uniform. Biden’s executive actions and guidance and loss to their families, communities, and
in the Break the Cycle of Violence Act. The loved ones, the astronomical financial im-
We will always stand with our men and Group Violence Intervention (‘‘GVI’’) strat- pact of gun violence on U.S. society cannot
women in blue and their families. egy, a form of problem-oriented policing (as be overlooked. According to a 2020 study by
House Democrats would like to use opposed to traditional ‘‘incident-driven’’ po- physicians and researchers, gun violence
these bills to convince the American licing), was first used in the enormously suc- costs the U.S. healthcare system $170 billion
people of the same, but Americans cessful Operation Ceasefire in Boston in the per year. The Health Alliance for Violence
know and understand. mid-1990s where it was associated with a 61 Intervention estimates it would cost an esti-
Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- percent reduction in youth homicide. The mated $827 million per year, or $5.36 billion
ance of my time. program has now been implemented in a over eight years, to fund sustained and ade-
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I wide variety of cities with consistently im- quate violence intervention programs in the
yield myself such time as I may con- pressive results. An analysis of more than 20 48 U.S. cities with the highest rates of vio-
GVI programs showed a significant reduction lence—hence the call on Congress to pass at
sume. in firearm violence. The most successful of
Madam Speaker, first of all, I thank least $5 billion over eight years for commu-
these programs have reduced violent crime nity gun violence prevention programs.
the gentlewoman from Minnesota for in cities by an average of 30 percent and im- With sustained investment into gun vio-
conceding that the text of three of the proved relations between law enforcement lence prevention programs and a national
bills was available for a month. I am officers and the neighborhoods they serve. comprehensive strategy aimed at reducing
glad we could set the record straight The GVI model has a remarkably strong gun violence, particularly in Black and
on that. track record: a documented association with Brown communities, Congress can make in-
The second thing I will say is that at homicide reductions of 30 to 60 percent. roads to reducing gun violence in all commu-
A study of the Cure Violence model, first
least two of these bills have bipartisan nities and ensure the right of everyone to
implemented in Chicago, found that its im-
cosponsorship. The VICTIM Act has live free from the threat of gun violence.
plementation in several targeted districts in
four Republican cosponsors. The Invest Congress has an obligation to take action to
Chicago was associated with a 38 percent
to Protect Act has 24 Republican co- invest in communities ravaged by gun vio-
greater decrease in homicides and a 15 per-
lence and to make efforts to prevent gun vio-
sponsors. Maybe they didn’t get the cent greater decrease in shootings, compared
lence and protect the lives and safety of all
memo that they are supposed to put to districts that did not receive the interven-
individuals, particularly in the face of evi-
politics ahead of people, but the bot- tion. A 2018 evaluation of Philadelphia’s Cure
Violence Program found that shootings de- dence that the 2020 gun-related injury and
tom line is they are cosponsors of this. death tolls in the U.S. have been the highest
creased significantly, compared to other
I would expect, unless their arms are matched comparison areas. in decades.
twisted, that they will vote for the An example of Hospital Based Violence We urge Congress to act urgently to pass
bills on final passage. Intervention, the third model of evidence- the Break the Cycle of Violence Act to en-
Madam Speaker, I include in the based violence prevention programs, is the sure at least $5 billion in federal funding
RECORD a letter from 101 human rights, San Francisco Wraparound Project, first in- over eight years for community gun violence
troduced in 2005. In its first six years of oper- prevention programs that save lives.
civil rights, racial justice, religiously
ation the Wraparound Project was associated Sincerely,
affiliated, and gun safety organizations Amnesty International USA, Community
who wrote in support of Congressman with a fourfold decrease in injury recidivism
(re-injury from gun-shot wounds) rates. Justice Action Fund, ACLU, African Amer-
HORSFORD’s bill, H.R. 4118, the Break Moreover, studies have shown that this form ican Ministers in Action, Ban Assault Weap-
the Cycle of Violence Act. I think that of intervention saves hospitals money by ons Now!, Brady, BRAVE Youth Leaders,
is worth noting. preventing future injuries, both for the pa- Ceasefire Oregon, Ceasefire Pennsylvania,
JULY 30, 2021. tient and for anyone the patient may have Center for American Progress, The Coalition
We the undersigned 101 human rights, civil considered retaliating against. to Stop Gun Violence, CommonSpirit Health,
rights, racial justice, religiously affiliated Investment, training, and support for cul- Congregation of Sisters of St. Agnes and the
and gun safety organizations write in sup- turally appropriate violence prevention CSA-USA Associate Community Congrega-
port of the Break the Cycle of Violence Act workers with lived experience in impacted tion of the Sisters of St. Joseph of Peace, CT
(S. 2275/H.R. 4118). We urge you to swiftly communities has proven successful in cities Against Gun Violence.
pass the Break the Cycle of Violence Act to across the U.S., yet lack of political will has Dominican Sisters of Houston, Dominican
provide at least $5 billion in federal funding resulted in many advocates and community Sisters—Grand Rapids, Dominican Sisters of
over eight years for community gun violence leaders working with limited or no Sinsinawa, Everytown for Gun Safety, First
prevention programs. resources. Unitarian Universalist Church of Houston,
Gun violence in the U.S. is a crisis, dis- For example, Lamar Johnson of B.R.A.V.E. Franciscan Action Network, Franciscan
proportionately impacting Black and Brown Chicago, said: ‘‘Our after-school program is a Peace Center, Franciscan Sisters of the Sa-
communities nationwide. Gun homicides are non-profit- we run it through the church— cred Heart, Generation Progress, Giffords,
the leading cause of death among Black men and the funding comes mostly from private GPEC-ICHV, Grandmothers Against Gun Vi-
ages 15–34 and the second-leading cause of donors. The majority of the city’s budget olence, Grey Nuns of the Sacred Heart, Gun
death for Latino men and boys of the same goes to law enforcement—and that’s not just Violence Prevention PAC Illinois, The
age range. Black men are more than ten Chicago, that’s most cities. We’ve met with Health Alliance for Violence Intervention,
times as likely to be the victims of gun mayors’ administrations so many times and Holy Spirit Missionary Sisters, USA-JPIC.
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homicides than white men. In 2019, 14,414 presented our case, but they don’t give us Honor with Action Coalition, Houston
people died from gun homicides in the U.S. funding. The whole system is so broken, be- League of Business & Professional Women,
Nearly 60 percent—8,607—of gun homicide cause the focus is on the criminal justice IHM Sisters—Justice, Peace and Sustain-
deaths were Black people. Yet Black people system. If someone is addicted to drugs, they ability Office, Indivisible Northern Nevada,
represent just 14.7 percent of the U.S. popu- go to jail before they go to the hospital to Institute of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Inter-
lation. get treatment. It’s the mindset.’’ community Peace and Justice Center,
With a surge in gun sales in the wake of Recognizing the effectiveness of these pro- Iowans for Gun Safety, Jewish Women Inter-
COVID–19, shootings are increasing across grams and the heroic people like Lamar who national, www.Journey4ward.org, Leadership
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September 22, 2022 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H8075
Conference of Women Religious, Leadership Representative MARJORIE TAYLOR mouths. If we need to make sure that
Team of the Felician Sisters of North Amer- GREENE of Georgia: we are quoting people today, I am more
ica, March for Our Lives DC, Marylanders to ‘‘Impeach Merrick Garland and than willing to do that.
Prevent Gun Violence, Massachusetts Coali- defund the corrupt FBI. End political ‘‘ . . . Police in our country are more
tion to Prevent Gun Violence, Moms Demand
Action.
persecution and hold those accountable concerned with protecting white su-
NAACP, National Coalition Against Do- that abuse their positions of power to premacy than serving the communities
mestic Violence, Newtown Action Alliance, persecute their political enemies, while that pay their salaries.’’—Representa-
Newtown Junior Action Alliance, Non- ruining our country. This shouldn’t tive BOWMAN.
violence Institute of Rhode Island, North happen in America. Republicans must ‘‘Defunding the police isn’t radical. It
Carolina Council of Churches, North Caro- force it to stop.’’ is real.’’—Representative CORI BUSH.
linians Against Gun Violence, Northwest Co- ‘‘The truth is that abolishing ICE
alition for Responsible Investment, Not My b 0930
isn’t that radical. We reorganize gov-
Generation, Ohio Coalition Against Gun Vio- On MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE’s
lence, People for a Safer Society, Presen- ernment all the time, creating some
website, she is selling defund the FBI agencies and eliminating others. Nev-
tation Sisters, San Francisco, CA, Re- T-shirts, so it is my friends on the
constructionist Rabbinical Association, Re- ertheless, it is a bold proposal. It is
gion VI Coalition for Responsible Invest-
other side of the aisle who want to time to be bold. It is time to abolish
ment, Religious of the Sacred Heart of Mary, defund law enforcement, who want to ICE.’’—Representative MARK POCAN.
Western American Area. defund the police. ‘‘The defund the police movement is
Restorations Ministries, Inc., Rhode Island There is an old saying: Physician, one of reimagining the current police
Coalition Against Gun Violence, Sacred heal thyself. You ought to take that to system to build an entity that does not
Ground Ministries, Saint Mark’s Episcopal heart. The bottom line here is that
Capitol Hill DC, San Diegans for Gun Vio- violate us, while relocating funds to in-
these are bills that will help improve vest in community services.’’—Rep-
lence Prevention, Sandy Hook Promise, safety in our communities. These are
School Sisters of Notre Dame-Atlantic Mid- resentative ILHAN OMAR.
bills that local officials, local law en- ‘‘Defunding police means defunding
west Office, School Sisters of Notre Dame,
Central Pacific Province, Sisters of Bon forcement organizations, want. The police.’’—Representative ALEXANDRIA
Secours, USA, Sisters of Charity, BVM, Sis- only people who don’t want them are OCASIO-CORTEZ.
ters of Charity Federation, Sisters of Char- my friends on the other side of the ‘‘We are spending too much money on
ity of Nazareth Congregational Leadership, aisle. the police. There should be substantial
Sisters of Charity of Nazareth Western Prov- If you want to vote no, vote no. But
ince Leadership, Sisters of Charity of Saint
cuts to the police budget and a re-
I suspect that some on the minority
Augustine, Sisters of Mercy of the American allocation of those funds.’’—Represent-
side understand what their commu-
Justice Team. ative JERRY NADLER.
nities want, and they don’t want poli- Now, they expect us to believe they
Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur USA, Sis-
ters of St. Dominic of Blauvelt, New York, tics as usual. They don’t want people support our law enforcement. They
Sisters of St. Dominic Racine, WI, Sisters of putting politics over people. What they think that putting these bills forward
St. Francis of Assisi, Sisters of St. Joseph of want is help for their communities. will make the American people believe
Boston, Sisters of Saint Joseph of Chestnut You have a chance. You can either
they care about law enforcement. It
Hill, Philadelphia, PA, Sisters of St. Joseph vote yes to help the communities or
of Carondelet, LA, Sisters of St. Joseph of
seems that it has taken them until now
vote no. That is your choice.
NW PA, Sisters of St. Mary of Namur, Sis- Madam Speaker, I think these bills to see how out of touch they are with
ters of the Holy Cross, Sisters of the Humil- are good bills. We should support the the American people.
ity of Mary, Squirrel Hill Stands Against rule. We should support the underlying Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to
Gun Violence, Stop Handgun Violence, Stu-
bill. the gentleman from Florida (Mr. RUTH-
dents Demand Action, Survivors Lead. ERFORD).
Team Enough, Trinity Health, Union of Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal-
ance of my time. Mr. RUTHERFORD. Madam Speaker,
Sisters of the Presentation of BVM, USA I thank the gentlewoman for yielding.
Unit, United Church of Christ, Justice and The SPEAKER pro tempore. Mem-
bers are reminded to direct their re- Madam Speaker, I have to tell you, I
Local Church Ministries, Ursuline Sisters of
Cleveland, Ursuline Sisters of Louisville, marks to the Chair. have spent 40 years in law enforcement,
KY, Ursuline Sisters of Mount Saint Joseph, Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, I 12 as a sheriff, as you know, and I have
Wheaton Franciscans JPIC Office, Youth Ad- yield myself such time as I may con- to tell you, never in my life have I seen
vocate Programs, Inc, Youth Over Guns. sume. law enforcement more under attack in
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, Madam Speaker, for years now, pro- America than I have for the last 21⁄2
again I inserted earlier an article talk- gressives in the media have disparaged years—never.
ing about the Republicans that would law enforcement at every opportunity, I know the dangers that they face out
not even honor the men and women of from the defund the police movement there every day. I have been there. I
the Capitol Police who defended us on to agenda-driven liberal district attor- have done that. I have to tell you, the
January 6. I continue to believe that neys in cities like San Francisco, Los attempts by those across the aisle to
that was a disgraceful moment. Angeles, Philadelphia, and New York. delegitimize, to demoralize, and to
But when the gentlewoman says that There is a clear strategic effort on the defund our State and local law enforce-
somehow they will always stand on be- part of Democrats to demean police of- ment is atrocious and unforgivable.
half and honor members of law enforce- ficers nationwide at the expense of law I hope that, come November, the
ment—let me just read a few and order. American public will hold accountable
quotations here. Representative JEFF In 2021, according to the Fraternal some of these folks that you just heard
DUNCAN from South Carolina: Order of Police, 346 officers were shot, read out. I can tell you, I don’t think
‘‘The FBI has proven time and again 63 fatally. Additionally, there were 103 they are popular at all with the Amer-
that it is corrupt to the core. At what ambush-style attacks on law enforce- ican public. Yet, now, leading into the
point do we abolish the Bureau and ment, a 115 percent increase from 2020. midterms, we are going to come to-
start over?’’ Even as members of the Democratic gether, and we are going to throw four
Representative PAUL GOSAR of Ari- Party are victims of increasing crimes, bills onto the floor to address law en-
zona says: they are unwavering in their aggres- forcement and show that we are sup-
‘‘I will support a complete disman- sion on those in uniform who stand on portive of law enforcement. I can tell
tling and elimination of the Democrat the front lines and every day protect you three of these bills are off that
brownshirts known as the FBI. This is and serve our communities. Rather point.
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too much for our Republic to with- than acknowledging and thanking First of all, the Mental Health Jus-
stand.’’ these brave men and women, Demo- tice Act, the VICTIM Act, and the
Representative LAUREN BOEBERT of crats have repeatedly gone out of their Break the Cycle of Violence Act, these
Colorado: way to put the blame on those in uni- three bills, let’s take them one at a
‘‘The GOP majority must defund all form. time.
forms of tyranny throughout Biden’s They may claim otherwise, but here The Mental Health Justice Act will
government. @FBI.’’ are the words straight from their actually make it more dangerous for
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law enforcement, make it more dan- bills, they will help make our commu- Keith Ellison (D) told The Washington Post’s
gerous for our citizens. We are going to nities safer or not. Dave Weigel on Thursday.
The gentleman from Florida didn’t That’s a remarkable turnaround from how
literally send mental health workers to politicians—in and out of Minnesota—acted
respond to volatile situations where like three of the bills, but he likes one in the immediate aftermath of Floyd’s death
police officers, who are armed, go in of the bills. The beauty of this rule is and the summer of nationwide protests that
and are killed oftentimes. you will be able to vote on all of them, followed.
Mental health calls are some of the and you can vote no on the ones you Nine members of the Minneapolis City
most dangerous calls that we handle, don’t like, and you can vote yes on the Council appeared at an event in June 2020 in
ones that you do like. which they pledged that they would work to
and we want to send civilians in lieu of
dismantle the police force in the city. They
law enforcement? I don’t think so. When we talk about how law enforce- did so on a stage that featured large cutout
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The ment has been under attack, I don’t letters spelling out ‘‘Defund Police.’’
time of the gentleman has expired. want to hear any lectures from my ‘‘We committed to dismantling policing as
Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, I friends on the other side of the aisle. I we know it in the city of Minneapolis and to
yield such time as he may consume to went through a whole litany of Repub- rebuild with our community a new model of
the gentleman from Florida (Mr. RUTH- lican Members who were calling for public safety that actually keeps our com-
munity safe,’’ City, Council President Lisa
ERFORD). defunding the FBI. Bender told CNN at the time.
Mr. RUTHERFORD. Madam Speaker, My friends have a Member on the Re- That message was picked up by some of the
I thank the gentlewoman for yielding. publican side who actually is selling most liberal members of Congress—from
The idea that we are going to send ci- defund the FBI T-shirts on her web Minnesota’s Ilhan Omar to Michigan’s
vilians to do a law enforcement offi- page. It says, ‘‘Defund the FBI.’’ It is Rashida Tlaib.
cer’s job in quelling a dangerous, vola- defund the police. My colleagues don’t New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
perhaps the best known progressive in Con-
tile situation is bad business. seem to care much about that. gress, warned that dismissing calls to defund
The VICTIM Act does nothing. There I will go back to something else that the police—or, at the very least, to recon-
is nothing new in the VICTIM Act. All I still can’t get out of my mind, and sider the way police interact with a commu-
it does is add to the programs that al- that was the vote on awarding a Con- nity—was a mistake. ‘‘It is not crazy for
ready exist in DOJ—not one single new gressional Gold Medal to the United Black and brown communities to want what
idea in the VICTIM Act. States Capitol Police officers who White people have already given themselves
The Break the Cycle of Violence Act, saved the lives of everybody who was and that is funding your schools more than
you fund criminalizing your own kids,’ she
first of all, comes with a very hefty here that day, and 21 Republican Mem- said.
price tag, $6.5 billion, but all that bers voted no. That is a disgrace. That Even as liberal members (and the activist
money goes to public health govern- has brought shame on this institution. community) were pushing for the party to
ment bureaucrats, not law enforce- So, don’t lecture any of us about our embrace the ‘‘defund the police’’ movement,
ment. support for law enforcement when 21 of others within the party were warning of the
Listen, our job in Congress is to pro- the Members on the other side of the political dangers inherent in the slogan.
‘‘This movement today, some people tried
vide effective assistance to our law en- aisle voted no on a Congressional Gold to hijack it,’’ House Majority Whip Jim Cly-
forcement men and women. These Medal to honor the brave men and burn (D-South Carolina), the highest ranking
three acts do not do that. They simply women who protected us in this Cham- African American in Congress, warned his
do not achieve that goal. ber on that day. Enough. party, according to reporting in Politico.
I am glad, however, that my col- Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal- ‘‘Don’t let yourselves be drawn into the de-
leagues have finally decided that ance of my time. bate about defunding police forces.’’
Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, I Clyburn’s warning proved prophetic. Then-
defunding the police is not a good idea, President Donald Trump seized on the issue
but I wish they would look at the ap- yield myself such time as I may con- during the 2020 campaign, casting it as evi-
propriation bills where they are basi- sume. dence that Democrats were out of touch with
cally federally defunding law enforce- Madam Speaker, with all due respect, the average person. ‘‘LAW & ORDER, NOT
ment because they are putting all potentially, my colleague from Massa- DEFUND AND ABOLISH THE POLICE.,’’
of these strings attached to all of chusetts didn’t hear some of the quotes Trump tweeted in June 2020. ‘‘The Radical
our DOJ grants that go to small-, that I read earlier, many of them talk- Left Democrats have gone Crazy!’’ And then
ing about ‘‘defunding police means this the following month: ‘‘Corrupt Joe
medium-, and large-sized agencies. Biden wants to defund our police. He may
They are never going to be able to defunding police,’’ Representative use different words, but when you look at his
meet those standards, never going to OCASIO-CORTEZ. pact with Crazy Bernie, and other things,
be able to meet all of those standards. I can go back through them, or I cer- that’s what he wants to do. It would destroy
So, basically, we just federally tainly am more than happy to provide America!’’
defunded State and local law enforce- them in writing to my colleague, but I Even as Trump and Republicans were
ment if that passes. I hope to God it just wanted to remind him that, yes, working to make ‘‘defund the police’’ a na-
there were many quotes that I read re- tional issue (Joe Biden had made clear he did
doesn’t. not favor defunding), the Minnesota politi-
Instead of these misguided policies, garding Democrats and defunding the cians who were at the forefront of the
let’s work together on some solutions. police. ‘‘defund’’ movement were beginning to back
Help us hire and retain some of the Madam Speaker, I include in the off in the face of rising crime in the city. As
best and brightest officers that we RECORD two articles, one titled ‘‘Even Minnesota Public Radio reported in Sep-
have. Democrats are now admitting ‘Defund tember 2020:
Madam Speaker, I urge a ‘‘no’’ vote the Police’ was a massive mistake,’’ ‘‘Just months after leading an effort that
and another titled ‘‘’Defund the Police’ would have defunded the police department,
on all three of these bills: the Mental City Council members at Tuesday’s work
Health Justice Act, the VICTIM Act, still haunts Democrats.’’ session pushed chief Medaria Arradondo to
and the Break the Cycle of Violence [From CNN Politics, Nov. 5, 2021] tell them how the department is responding
Act. These will do nothing but endan- EVEN DEMOCRATS ARE NOW ADMITTING to the violence.
ger our law enforcement men and ‘DEFUND THE POLICE’ WAS A MASSIVE MIS- ‘‘The number of reported violent crimes,
women. TAKE like assaults, robberies and homicides are up
compared to 2019, according to MPD crime
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I (By Chris Cillizza)
data. More people have been killed in the
yield myself such time as I may con- (CNN).—On Tuesday, a proposal to fun- city in the first nine months of 2020 than
sume. damentally restructure the Minneapolis po- were slain in all of last year. Property
Madam Speaker, my colleague from lice department in the wake of George crimes, like burglaries and auto thefts, are
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Minnesota said, if I am quoting it Floyd’s death in 2020 was soundly defeated, a also up. Incidents of arson have increased 55
right, ‘‘They expect us to believe they setback that even many Democrats acknowl- percent over the total at this point in 2019.’’
edged could be laid at the feet of the ‘‘defund (The City Council had, months before,
support our law enforcement.’’ I will be
the police’’ movement that some within the moved $1.1 million from the police depart-
honest with you. I don’t expect my col- party embraced last summer. ment to the health department.)
leagues to believe anything, but I ex- ‘‘I think allowing this moniker, ‘Defund After several fits and starts, Question 2
pect them to read the bills and to de- the police,’ to ever get out there, was not a was added to the 2021 ballot. Among its Pro-
cide whether or not, if you pass these good thing,’’ Minnesota Attorney General visions was replacing the Minnesota police
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department with a department of public safe- But AOC was having none of it. She and nities and the protection of America’s fami-
ty, getting rid of language that requires a her fellow members wrote that the MTA lies and children.
minimum number of police officers to be em- funding for increased police presence in the Not surprisingly, Democrats trail on the
ployed by the city and forcing the mayor to subways would be better spent on ‘‘des- handling of the crime and safety issue by 12
win the city council’s support for someone to perately needed resources’’ like ‘‘subway, points (48 percent favoring Republicans, 36
run the new department. bus, maintenance, and service improve- percent favoring Democrats) and among
While the vote was expected to be quite ments,’’ telling Cuomo, ‘‘The subway system independents by 13 points (42 percent–29 per-
close, it was, in fact, not. As CNN wrote of is now safer than before.’’ cent, with 29 percent undecided). The Demo-
the results: Last week, Rep. Abigail Spanberger called cratic Party’s silence about threats to safety
‘‘The status quo-affirming result is a set- defunding the police ‘‘a terrible idea,’’ while has left Democrats supporting a policy posi-
back to both citywide and national efforts to a Politico story said, ‘‘As the midterm elec- tion that voters find alienating.
fundamentally reduce or eliminate the role tions pick up, Democrats are calling for Finally, with police officers, Democrats
of police in America. Opponents of calls to more police funding and attempting to co- have chosen the wrong group to vilify. The
‘‘defund the police’’ will point to the vote as opt traditionally Republican talking points police have a very favorable brand image (72
fresh evidence that the backlash to police on crime.’’ percent favorable, 20 percent unfavorable in
abuse that fueled last year’s protests, which ‘‘Defund the police’’ may no longer be the the March WTI survey). Congressional Demo-
followed the killing of Floyd by then Min- position of the Democratic Party, but when crats have a negative brand at 44 percent fa-
neapolis police officer Derek Chauvin. Talk Cori Bush, AOC or any member of the Squad vorable, 49 percent unfavorable. By
of curbing police departments by cutting or weighs in on any issue, the Twittersphere affiliating themselves with the defund the
limiting their resources has run into a coun- lights up like a cop car in hot pursuit. It police movement, they are seen by voters as
tervailing wall of concern over public safety seems the media can’t get enough of the opposing a very positive group of public serv-
and waning support from early allies—in- Squad, and polling shows that this ants who are well liked and supported by the
cluding leading Democrats who largely view intraparty fight over the issue of policing electorate.
it as political poison.’’ and crime has not only become a major head- By trying to straddle the fence on crime
The question now for Democrats is wheth- ache for Pelosi but is also taking a toll on and safety, Biden, Pelosi and Democratic
er they totally abandon efforts to remake the Democrats’ credibility. members fearing primaries have been unwill-
policing in this country. (A bipartisan police When the electorate was asked in the Win- ing to take on their anti-police progressives.
reform attempt failed in Congress earlier ning the Issues (WTI) February survey if If the trend continues, this issue will haunt
this year.) Or if they continue on while doing they believed that we need to defund the po- Democrats this November and for a long
their best to leave the ‘‘defund the police’’ lice, only 21 percent believed the statement, time to come.
slogan behind them. while 64 percent did not. Independents were Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker,
[From Roll Call, Apr. 27, 2022] even more adamant that defunding the po- Democrats have long respected and
‘DEFUND THE POLICE’ STILL HAUNTS lice was a bad idea, coming in at an over- supported our law enforcement. As
DEMOCRATS whelming 12 percent for and 70 percent Representatives GUEST and LETLOW so
(By David Winston) against. eloquently stated in their resolution to
It’s becoming increasingly clear that after Despite Biden and Pelosi’s efforts to stem
the bleeding by offering up more funding to express support for recognizing Na-
the economy, crime is a hot-button issue
stop gun violence and invest in community tional Police Week, they serve with
driving voter sentiment in the lead-up to the
November elections. But despite voter-con- policing, the WTI research shows that Demo- valor, dignity, and integrity.
cern, Democrats continue to be divided over crats are losing the issue, with more voters They are charged with pursuing jus-
the controversial ‘‘defund the police’’ believing that the Democratic Party sup- tice for all individuals and performing
mantra that has grabbed headlines for the ports defunding the police than not by a the duties of a law enforcement officer
past two years, and it’s beginning to hurt margin of 48 percent to 34 percent. with fidelity to the constitutional
their prospects for the fall elections. There are three main reasons for the
rights and civil rights of the public
The mixed messaging of party leaders Democrats’ troubles on this issue. First,
there is widespread recognition of just how that the officers serve.
versus the call to defund by progressives, es- They swear an oath to uphold the
pecially extreme comments by members of serious rising crime is becoming, with 7 out
the Squad, has become a costly roadblock to of 10 voters believing that across America, public trust, even though through the
retaining the House as voters lose confidence violent crime is escalating. performance of their duties of law en-
in Democrats’ ability to address rising vio- Six out of 10 voters agree with the state- forcement officers, the officers may be-
lence across the country. ment that ‘‘families, communities and small come targets of senseless acts of vio-
Even a cursory look at statements by business are being endangered and experi- lence.
Democratic leaders and radical backbenchers encing the devastating effects of rhetoric They have bravely continued to meet
opposed to increased funding of police ex- about defunding the police and police depart-
the call of duty to ensure the security
plains the party’s dilemma. ment budget cuts at the hands of politi-
cians.’’ of their neighborhoods and commu-
On Feb. 13, George Stephanopoulos raised
the issue of Rep. Cori Bush’s statements call- These views extend across party, ideology, nities at the risk of their own personal
ing for defunding the police during an inter- age and region, making a concept like safety in the time of a viral pandemic.
view with Speaker Nancy Pelosi. ‘‘With all defunding the police totally out of tune with There were 619 officers killed in the
due respect in the world to Cori Bush,’’ she most voters who oppose it by a 3-to-1 mar- line of duty in 2021. Republicans honor
replied, ‘‘that is not the position of the gin. all of them and prioritize protecting
Democratic Party.’’ There’s a second reason for the Democrats’ and supporting today’s officers.
Pelosi then declared, ‘‘Defund the police is weakness on the crime issue. The president Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal-
dead.’’ and other Democrats have tried to have it
both ways—trying to pose as supporters of
ance of my time.
Two weeks later, in his State of the Union
address, President Biden called for increased the police while only reluctantly, if at all,
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I
funding for police: ‘‘We should all agree: The acknowledging that crime is a major prob- yield myself such time as I may con-
answer is not to defund the police. The an- lem. sume.
swer is to fund the police. Fund them. Fund On the White House website list of prior- Madam Speaker, I include in the
them.’’ ities, crime doesn’t even make the list. The RECORD an article from The Guardian
Apparently, Squad member Bush didn’t get White House’s lack of acknowledgment and titled ‘‘’Republicans are defunding the
the message. In a tweet after the speech, she often dismissive rhetoric about crime, par- police: FOX News anchor stumps Con-
said, ‘‘With all due respect, Mr. President, ticularly in cities with progressive mayors gressman.’’
you didn’t mention saving Black lives once and prosecutors, has led directly to its weak
[From the Guardian, June 28, 2021]
in this speech. All our country has done is standing on the issue.
given more funding to police. The result? As a result, when voters were asked in the REPUBLICANS ARE DEFUNDING THE POLICE—
2021 set a record for fatal police shootings. March survey whether they believed Demo- FOX NEWS ANCHOR STUMPS CONGRESSMAN
Defund the police. Invest in our commu- crats would focus on law enforcement efforts (By Martin Pengelly)
nities.’’ to deal with violent offenders, they were The Fox News anchor Chris Wallace made
A month later, a gunman shot up a New split, with 44 percent believing they would headlines of his own on Sunday, by pointing
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York subway train, and an inconvenient 2019 and 43 percent believing they wouldn’t. Inde- out to a senior Republican that he and the
letter from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, pendents were even more skeptical, with 36 rest of his party recently voted against
Jerrold Nadler and other liberal New York percent believing and 46 percent not believ- $350bn in funding for law enforcement.
House members resurfaced. The letter to ing. ‘‘Can’t you make the argument that it’s
then-Gov. Andrew Cuomo opposed a plan to In contrast, voters by a 61 percent to 27 you and the Republicans who are defunding
put 500 new Metropolitan Transportation Au- percent margin believed that Republicans the police?’’ Wallace asked Jim Banks, the
thority officers in the subways to reduce would stand with law enforcement in their head of the House Republican study com-
crime. efforts to ensure the safety of our commu- mittee.
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The congressman was the author of a Fox well, the last few years of funding the the birth of a child and could not attend.
News column in which he said Democrats police say otherwise. ‘‘Wish I could be there too, but I’m on baby
were responsible for spikes in violent crime. Madam Speaker, I also include in the watch,’’ he tweeted. ‘‘I am in spirit.’’
‘‘There is overwhelming evidence,’’ Banks Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I
wrote, ‘‘connecting the rise in murders to
RECORD a Rolling Stone article titled
the violent riots last summer’’—a reference ‘‘ ‘Back-The-Blue’ Republicans Bail on find it hard to believe that someone
to protests over the murder of George Floyd Moment of Silence for Fallen Capitol says they back the police when they
which sometimes produced looting and vio- Police Officers.’’ don’t even do the bare minimum and
lence—‘‘and the defund the police movement. [From Rolling Stone, Jan. 6, 2022] show up and remember those who
Both of which were supported, financially ‘BACK-THE-BLUE’ REPUBLICANS BAIL ON MO- fought to save the lives of our very de-
and rhetorically, by the Democratic party MENT OF SILENCE FOR FALLEN CAPITOL PO- mocracy and every single person in
and the Biden administration.’’ LICE OFFICERS this Chamber that day.
Joe Biden does not support any attempt to
(By Tim Dickinson) Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal-
‘‘defund the police’’, a slogan adopted by
some on the left but which remains con- The Republican Party holds itself as the ance of my time.
troversial and which the president has said champions of law enforcement. They cam- Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, I
Republicans have used to ‘‘beat the living paign on slogans of ‘‘Back the Blue.’’ They yield myself such time as I may con-
hell’’ out of Democrats. hold rallies flying the ‘‘Thin Blue Line’’ flag. sume.
On Fox News Sunday, Banks repeatedly at- They purport to celebrate the cops who Madam Speaker, I point out that my
tacked the so-called ‘‘Squad’’ of young pro- shield the nation from violence and anarchy. good friend and colleague from Min-
gressive women in the House and said Demo- But when it came time to show up in the
nesota, Congressman STAUBER, who is
crats ‘‘stigmatised’’ law enforcement and halls of Congress for a remembrance of the
helped criminals. sacrifices Capitol and Metropolitan Police former law enforcement, has twice now
‘‘Let me push back on that a little bit,’’ made defending our democracy from violence released the JUSTICE Act, a common-
Wallace said. ‘‘Because [this week] the presi- last Jan. 6, Republicans lawmakers didn’t sense police reform bill, that would re-
dent said that the central part in his anti- bother to show up. Only one sitting Repub- build trust between law enforcement
crime package is the $350bn in the American lican officeholder showed up, Wyoming Rep. and communities they serve.
Rescue Plan, the Covid relief plan that was Liz Cheney. She was accompanied by her fa-
passed.’’ ther Dick, the former vice president. b 0945
Covid relief passed through Congress in On that dark day one year ago, the ‘‘Thin Why is it that that has not come to
March, under rules that meant it did not re- Blue Line’’ was not a metaphor. Police put the floor yet? And why is that not part
quire Republican votes. It did not get a sin- their bodies and lives in harm’s way, at- of the package that we are looking at?
gle one. tempting to blockade the joint session of
Asked if that meant it was ‘‘you and the Congress from the violent mob of Trump sup-
Congressman STAUBER was a police
Republicans who are defunding the police’’, porters who sought to stop the peaceful officer for 20 years. He knows law en-
Banks dodged the question. transfer of power after a lawful election. forcement exists to serve America’s
Wallace said: ‘‘No, no, sir, respectfully— These cops were beaten, tased, tear gassed, communities, and he knows what is
wait, sir, respectfully ... I’m asking you, dragged down steps, and crushed in door- needed to rebuild the damaged rela-
there’s $350bn in this package the president ways. More than 140 were injured in the in- tionship between officers and civilians.
says can be used for policing . . . surrection, and five officer deaths (including
‘‘Congressman Banks, let me finish, and I
The Just and Unifying Solutions to
subsequent suicides) have been linked to the Invigorate Communities Everywhere,
promise I will give you a chance to answer. violence and trauma of Jan. 6.
The president is saying cities and states can ‘‘I want to acknowledge our fallen heroes or the JUSTICE Act, would fund better
use this money to hire more police officers, of that day,’’ said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, training for police officers, increase
invest in new technologies and develop sum- leading a House session marking the anni- the number of body cameras, and pro-
mer job training and recreation programs for versary of the attack. ‘‘Now I ask all mem- vide important grants to police depart-
young people. Respectfully, I’ve heard your bers to rise in a moment of silence in their ments to help implement community
point about the last year, but you and every memory.’’ policing best practices. Sound famil-
other Republican voted against this $350bn.’’ As the officials rose, the visual of a nearly
Turning a blind eye to Wallace’s question, iar?
empty GOP side of the aisle was chilling, as
Banks said: ‘‘If we turn a blind eye to law He introduced this bill this Congress
Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut noted on
and order, and a blind eye to riots that oc- Twitter: and last Congress and, yet, despite its
curred in cities last summer, and we take po- past bipartisan support, Democrats
At the moment of silence for the Capitol
lice officers off the street, we’re inevitably continuously blocked efforts to bring
Police officers who died, there were only two
going to see crime rise.’’ this to the floor.
Wallace asked if Banks could support any Republicans who showed up.
Rep. Lynn Cheney. And her father. The 80 Why would Democrats block such a
gun control legislation. Banks said that if
Biden was ‘‘serious about reducing violent
year old former Vice President. commonsense bill for years and now de-
An extraordinary image of where this cide it is necessary to pass these bills?
crime in America’’, he should ‘‘admonish the
country’s politics are right now. Let’s just take a look at what they
radical voices in the Democrat [sic] party
that have stigmatised police officers and law —Chris Murphy January 6, 2022 spent time promoting instead. For ex-
enforcement’’. Speaking to reporters at the Capitol, the ample, the Democrats so-called George
Despite working for Republicans’ favoured former vice president said he attended the Floyd Justice in Policing Act is a divi-
broadcaster, Wallace is happy to hold their House session to mark ‘‘an important histor- sive bill being pushed through by the
feet to the fire, as grillings of Donald Trump ical event.’’ Cheney elaborated that he was
majority without any Republican
and Kevin McCarthy have shown. ‘‘deeply disappointed we don’t have better
He has also attracted criticism, for exam- leadership in the Republican Party to re- input. Disguised as accountability, the
ple for failing to control Trump during a store the Constitution.’’ The swipe at Senate bill would make communities less safe,
chaotic presidential debate last year which minority leader Mitch McConnell and House hinder law enforcement’s ability to do
one network rival called ‘‘a hot mess, inside minority leader Kevin McCarthy—who could their job, limit the readiness of law en-
a dumpster fire, inside a train wreck’’. not be bothered to attend the remembrance, forcement, and demonizes an entire
Last year, Wallace told the Guardian: ‘‘I do and who have done little to combat Trump’s profession for the actions of a few.
what I do and I’m sitting there during the destructive and ongoing lies about the 2020 It eliminates qualified immunity pro-
week trying to come up with the best guests election—was unmistakable.
and the best show I possibly can and I’m not tections for Federal, State, and local
Rep. Cheney’s attendance was not sur-
sitting there thinking about how do we fit in prising. She is the top Republican on the bi- law enforcement officers which protect
some media commentary. partisan congressional committee inves- officers who have to operate in high-
‘‘We’re not there to try to one-up the presi- tigating the events of Jan. 6, and has been pressure, quick-decision environments.
dent or any politician.’’ consistent and unabashed in her criticism of It lowers the mental standard for
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, if Donald Trump, blaming him directly for the Federal civil rights lawsuits. It allows
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you look at the voting record of many violence at the Capitol. Cheney has been officer convictions, even if the officer
of our colleagues on the other side of treated as a pariah by Trump—who has has no specific intent to deprive a per-
called her a ‘‘bitter, horrible human being’’—
the aisle, you will see few to none sup- son of a Federal right.
and was ousted from GOP House leadership
ported recent funding bills that also di- earlier this year for refusing to kowtow to I have given a couple of examples of
rect money toward supporting local the Dear Leader. good, strong Republican legislation
law enforcement. If they think that we Rep. Adam Kinzinger, the other Repub- that was not considered as even part of
are on a crusade to defund the police, lican on the Jan. 6 committee, is expecting the Democrats’ so-called police or law
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September 22, 2022 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H8079
enforcement support grouping of bills Again, I go back to my point earlier. crats’ most cherished values: safety and jus-
that they have put together today in I still can’t get over that 21 Repub- tice.
an emergency meeting yesterday. licans couldn’t even vote to give a Con- On behalf of our Caucus and the Congress,
If there was truly support for law en- gressional Gold Medal to the men and I salute the persistent, values-driven leader-
forcement, they would have come to- women who defended us on January 6. ship of CBC Chairwoman JOYCE BEATTY and
gether in a bipartisan manner, dis- I mean, talk about disgusting. Couldn’t Members of the CBC—ensuring that account-
cussed it with law enforcement, dis- show up on the House floor for a mo- ability is central to our efforts.
cussed it with the minority, and really ment of silence to honor those police Let us also commend Progressive Caucus
come together and created legislation who lost their lives as a result of what Chair PRAMILA JAYAPAL and Congresswoman
that would truly do what we need it to happened on January 6. Talk about dis- ILHAN OMAR for their tireless efforts to advance
do, and that is support and help our gusting. the goal of public safety for all.
law enforcement. We have ideas here that I think are We applaud the committed leaders of the
Madam Speaker, today’s debate is worth bipartisan support. Some of this legislation before us today: Congressman
nothing more than a political stunt, as stuff I think should have been brought JOSH GOTTHEIMER, Congresswoman KATIE
I have mentioned. The Democrats have up under suspension. But, again, my PORTER, Congressman STEVEN HORSFORD,
put forward these bills at the last friends put politics ahead of people. We and Congresswoman VAL DEMINGS.
minute so they can go home this week- want to put people ahead of politics. And thank you to Judiciary Chair JERRY
end and pretend they have done some- Take the VICTIM Act, H.R. 5768. This NADLER and Energy & Commerce Chair FRANK
thing to help police in this country. establishes a grant program in the De- PALLONE for steering this legislation to the
I mentioned it before. If the majority partment of Justice to help State, Floor.
was sincere about supporting law en- Tribal, and local law enforcement House Democrats believe that every Amer-
forcement, they would have involved agencies improve their clearance rates ican deserves to live in a safe community—
the minority. They would have had dis- for homicides and nonfatal shootings. where they and their family can thrive.
cussion about the bills, good solid bills To me, that seems common sense. For us, this is a deeply held value.
that the minority has put forward, and The Break the Cycle of Violence Act, And that is why our Majority has long
they would have had discussions with H.R. 4118, creates a nationwide strat- sought—and today, continues to take—strong,
law enforcement across the country to egy to make our communities safer by commonsense action to fund our police, giving
find real solutions. addressing both the symptoms and root them the tools they need to prevent crime.
Our police do need our help. There is causes of violence. Let me be clear: Democrats salute our law
a war on police in this country, thanks The Invest to Protect Act, H.R. 6448, enforcement heroes.
to the efforts of those on the far left. makes targeted investments to ensure
And we have fought to support them: secur-
They know it; I know it; and the Amer- that local police departments have the
ing a half-billion-dollar increase for local and
ican people know it. training they need to keep our commu-
state law enforcement in March’s Appropria-
But these bills are just one more in- nities safe.
tions legislation.
sincere attempt. One mostly recreates The Mental Health Justice Act, H.R.
At the same time, we remain fully committed
programs that already exist within the 8542; one in four fatal police encounters
to improving training and accountability among
DOJ. The other includes a section that ends the life of an individual with se-
the law enforcement ranks.
still gives preference to efforts that do vere mental illness. The Mental Health
Justice Act makes it easier to send Our nation remains outraged at the scourge
not include recruitment and
trained mental health professionals to of systemic racism and brutality targeting com-
retainment.
Honestly, Madam Speaker, my col- respond to individuals experiencing a munities of color and marginalized commu-
leagues should be embarrassed and mental health crisis. nities—knowing that it remains a serious
ashamed of this political stunt, espe- To me, these are basic, commonsense threat to safety.
cially when it comes to something that bills that I think the overwhelming That is why Democrats will never stop fight-
affects everyone’s safety and the Amer- majority of people in this country, ing for the fundamental transformation that our
ican people’s safety. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, culture of policing demands—which goes
Madam Speaker, I oppose the rule, would all support. hand-in-hand with our unyielding commitment
and I encourage Members to do the You want to talk about not sup- to public safety.
same. porting our law enforcement. Repub- Our George Floyd Justice in Policing Act—
Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal- licans voted against $350 billion in the twice passed by the House—includes strong,
ance of my time. American Rescue Plan that could be unprecedented reforms to save lives: from
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I used for policing. So please don’t lec- banning chokeholds; to stopping no-knock
yield myself the balance of my time. ture us about defunding the police. Re- warrants; to combating racial profiling; to es-
I thank the gentlewoman for that publicans only seem to support law en- tablishing nationwide standards against mis-
closing statement. I keep hearing the forcement when they are looking for conduct.
Democrats want to defund the police, votes. That is a common theme here, Sadly, this urgent and necessary legislation
so here we are on the House floor talk- when it is politically convenient for was blocked by Republicans.
ing about creating grant programs to them. It is really shameful, and it is But under the leadership of our brilliant, re-
help keep communities safer. Now the cynical. It is why people get frustrated lentless Congresswoman KAREN BASS, we will
Republicans are the ones who are talk- with Washington because everything not rest until these life-saving measures are
ing about defunding the police. Do you has a political motivation. the law of the land.
see the irony? On stuff that we all should come to- Today, with our four bills, we seek to take
Democrats actually have solutions in gether on, my friends on the other side a strong step to build stronger, healthier rela-
these four bills; real ideas that have of the aisle always come up with an tionships between law enforcement and those
been publicly available for months to issue, an excuse not to do the right they serve.
make our streets safer and reduce thing. You don’t have to agree on ev- And together, they will help prevent crime,
crime. Republicans are the ones talk- erything to agree on something, and save lives and advance justice.
ing about defunding and abolishing the this is something we ought to agree on Our Invest to Protect Act funds our police,
FBI. and we ought to come together on and with grants to: help small, local law enforce-
I will remind my colleagues that you get it done. ment agencies retain and recruit officers; re-
have Republican Members who are rais- These are good bills, Madam Speak- quire the Attorney General to evaluate and
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ing campaign funds by selling Defund er, bipartisan bills. I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote collect data on how police departments are
the FBI T-shirts. Want to talk about on the rule and the previous question, using the funds to reduce the use of force;
disgusting? and I yield back the balance of my and invest in strong accountability measures,
No mention of that from my col- time. including: training for de-escalation, respond-
leagues. Fundraising off of selling T- Ms. PELOSI. Madam Speaker. I rise today ing to substance use disorders, supporting
shirts to defund the police; that is in strong support of this robust public safety survivors of domestic violence, and promoting
what my friends are doing. package—legislation rooted in two of Demo- a duty of care.
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Our Mental Health Justice Act will help send Accordingly (at 9 o’clock and 54 min- McGovern Porter Speier
McNerney Price (NC) Stansbury
unarmed mental health professionals to re- utes a.m.), the House stood in recess. Meeks Quigley Stanton
spond to mental health crises in our neighbor- Meng Raskin Stevens
f
hoods: crucial action to save lives. Mfume Rice (NY) Strickland
Our Break the Cycle of Violence Act invests Moore (WI) Ross Suozzi
b 1229 Morelle Roybal-Allard Swalwell
in effective, evidence-based community vio- Moulton Ruiz Takano
lence intervention initiatives—building on the AFTER RECESS Mrvan Ruppersberger Thompson (CA)
lifesaving progress we forged in our American The recess having expired, the House
Murphy (FL) Rush Thompson (MS)
Nadler Ryan (NY) Titus
Rescue Plan. was called to order by the Speaker pro Napolitano Ryan (OH) Tonko
Our VICTIM Act will bolster the ability of po- Neal Sánchez Torres (CA)
tempore (Ms. DEGETTE) at 12 o’clock
lice forces to solve homicides, sexual assaults, Neguse Sarbanes Torres (NY)
and 29 minutes p.m. Newman Scanlon Trahan
shootings and other violent crimes: a nec-
ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE Norcross Schakowsky Trone
essary step to ensure justice is served and im- O’Halleran Schiff Underwood
prove trust in law enforcement. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-
Omar Schneider Vargas
In the same spirit, House Democrats take ant to clause 8 of rule XX, the unfin- Pallone Schrader Veasey
immense pride in our work so far this Con- ished business is the vote on adoption Panetta Schrier Velázquez
of House Resolution 1377 on which the Pappas Scott (VA) Wasserman
gress to keep America’s families safe from Pascrell Scott, David Schultz
harm. yeas and nays were ordered. Payne Sewell Waters
Under the magnificent leadership of Presi- The Clerk read the title of the resolu- Pelosi Sherman Watson Coleman
dent Biden, we enacted an historic gun vio- tion. Peltola Sherrill Welch
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Perlmutter Sires Wexton
lence prevention law—which is saving lives by Peters Slotkin Wild
getting deadly weapons out of dangerous question is on the resolution. Phillips Smith (WA) Williams (GA)
hands. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY Pingree Soto Wilson (FL)
Meanwhile, the House has successfully Pocan Spanberger Yarmuth
Mr. MCCARTHY (during the vote).
passed legislation reinstating the Assault Madam Speaker, parliamentary in- NAYS—215
Weapons Ban and establishing an AMBER quiry. Aderholt Franklin, C. Massie
Alert-style warning during shootings—meas- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Allen Scott Mast
Amodei Fulcher McCarthy
ures that strongly support our law enforce- tleman will state his parliamentary in- Armstrong Gaetz McCaul
ment. quiry. Arrington Gallagher McClain
And this Congress, our Majority has also Mr. MCCARTHY. There is a Member Babin Garbarino McClintock
passed legislation to: require universal back- that is 3 minutes out on their way with Bacon Garcia (CA) McHenry
Baird Gibbs McKinley
ground checks, promote safe storage, and ban the right to vote. As you held up the Balderson Gimenez Meijer
bump stocks, high-capacity magazines and others, do they have the right to hold? Banks Gohmert Meuser
ghost guns. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Barr Gonzales, Tony Miller (IL)
Make no mistake: our colleagues across the Bentz Gonzalez (OH) Miller (WV)
tleman does not state a parliamentary Bergman Good (VA) Miller-Meeks
aisle overwhelmingly voted against all of these inquiry. Bice (OK) Gooden (TX) Moolenaar
measures. The Clerk will report the tally. Biggs Gosar Mooney
Because they fail to realize that preventing The vote was taken by electronic de- Bilirakis Granger Moore (AL)
gun crime is a crucial piece of the puzzle in Bishop (NC) Graves (LA) Moore (UT)
vice, and there were—yeas 216, nays Boebert Graves (MO) Mullin
building safer communities—especially for our 215, answered ‘‘present’’ 1, not voting 1, Bost Green (TN) Murphy (NC)
children. as follows: Bowman Greene (GA) Nehls
Madam Speaker. Every Member who has Brady Griffith Newhouse
[Roll No. 450] Brooks Grothman Norman
the special privilege of serving in these hal-
YEAS—216 Buchanan Guest Obernolte
lowed halls takes a sacred oath to the Amer- Buck Guthrie Ocasio-Cortez
ican people. Adams Courtney Jackson Lee Bucshon Harris Owens
Aguilar Craig Jacobs (CA)
That oath—which is blind to party affili- Allred Crow Jayapal
Budd Harshbarger Palazzo
ation—is to ‘‘protect & defend.’’ Burchett Hartzler Palmer
Auchincloss Cuellar Jeffries Burgess Hern Pence
And with this package today, the House is Axne Davids (KS) Johnson (GA) Bush Herrell Perry
honoring this foremost responsibility. Barragán Davis, Danny K. Johnson (TX) Calvert Herrera Beutler Pfluger
Bass Dean Jones
So I encourage every Member to join us in Beatty DeFazio Kahele
Cammack Hice (GA) Posey
putting People Over Politics—and vote for Carey Higgins (LA) Reschenthaler
Bera DeGette Kaptur Carl Hill Rice (SC)
safer communities in every corner of the coun- Beyer DeLauro Keating Carter (GA) Hinson Rodgers (WA)
try. Bishop (GA) DelBene Kelly (IL) Carter (TX) Hollingsworth Rogers (AL)
Blumenauer Demings Khanna
With that, I urge a resounding, bipartisan Blunt Rochester DeSaulnier Kildee
Cawthorn Hudson Rogers (KY)
Chabot Huizenga Rose
AYE vote on all four bills in this strong public Bonamici Deutch Kilmer Cline Issa Rosendale
safety package. Bourdeaux Dingell Kim (NJ) Cloud Jackson Rouzer
Mr. MCGOVERN. Madam Speaker, I Boyle, Brendan Doggett Kind Clyde Jacobs (NY) Roy
F. Doyle, Michael Kirkpatrick
move the previous question on the res- Cole Johnson (LA) Rutherford
Brown (MD) F. Krishnamoorthi Comer Johnson (OH) Salazar
olution. Brown (OH) Escobar Kuster Conway Johnson (SD) Scalise
The previous question was ordered. Brownley Eshoo Lamb Crawford Jordan Schweikert
The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Bustos Espaillat Langevin Crenshaw Joyce (OH) Scott, Austin
Butterfield Evans Larsen (WA)
question is on the resolution. Curtis Joyce (PA) Sempolinski
Carbajal Fletcher Larson (CT) Davidson Katko Sessions
The question was taken; and the Cárdenas Foster Lawrence Davis, Rodney Keller Simpson
Speaker pro tempore announced that Carson Frankel, Lois Lawson (FL) DesJarlais Kelly (MS) Smith (MO)
Carter (LA) Gallego Lee (CA)
the ayes appeared to have it. Cartwright Garamendi Lee (NV)
Diaz-Balart Kelly (PA) Smith (NE)
Mrs. FISCHBACH. Madam Speaker, Donalds Kim (CA) Smith (NJ)
Case Garcı́a (IL) Leger Fernandez Duncan Kinzinger Smucker
on that I demand the yeas and nays. Casten Garcia (TX) Levin (CA) Dunn Kustoff Spartz
The yeas and nays were ordered. Castor (FL) Golden Levin (MI) Ellzey LaHood Stauber
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Castro (TX) Gomez Lieu Emmer LaMalfa Steel
Cherfilus- Gonzalez, Lofgren
ant to clause 8 of rule XX, further pro- Estes Lamborn Stefanik
McCormick Vicente Lowenthal Fallon Latta Steil
ceedings on this question will be post- Chu Gottheimer Luria Feenstra LaTurner Steube
poned. Cicilline Green, Al (TX) Lynch
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Ferguson Lesko Stewart
Clark (MA) Grijalva Malinowski
f Clarke (NY) Harder (CA) Maloney,
Finstad Letlow Taylor
Fischbach Long Tenney
Cleaver Hayes Carolyn B.
RECESS Clyburn Higgins (NY) Maloney, Sean
Fitzgerald Loudermilk Thompson (PA)
Fitzpatrick Lucas Tiffany
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Cohen Himes Manning Fleischmann Luetkemeyer Timmons
ant to clause 12(a) of rule I, the Chair Connolly Horsford Matsui Flood Mace Tlaib
Cooper Houlahan McBath
declares the House in recess subject to Flores Malliotakis Turner
Correa Hoyer McCollum Foxx Mann Upton
the call of the Chair. Costa Huffman McEachin
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