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Congressional Record — House, October 22, 2021

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This is H5816 of the Congressional Record, House, October 22, 2021, with interleaved columns. The page begins with the end of a roll call listing and then prints a Legislative Program colloquy in which Mr. Scalise asks the majority leader, Mr. Hoyer, about the schedule for next week. Mr. Scalise says families face inflation, an energy crisis, a border crisis, and supply chain problems, and asks whether legislation will address them. Mr. Hoyer outlines the House schedule from Monday through Thursday, says 5 million jobs have been created since the administration took office, and says the House will consider several bills under suspension, with the views attributed to the speakers.

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                                              H5816                                                  CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE                                                    October 22, 2021
                                              Hartzler             Moore (WI)          Stewart              Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, I                        floor, we brought it to the floor. You
                                                (Bucshon)            (Beyer)             (Crawford)
                                              Hice (GA)            Napolitano          Suozzi (Panetta)
                                                                                                          thank the gentleman. As we go                          all opposed it, however—unfortu-
                                                (Greene (GA))        (Correa)          Timmons            through the bills that may come up                     nately—that helped families, helped
                                              Huffman              Nehls (Fallon)      (Reschenthaler)    next week—of course, we just finished                  childcare, helped healthcare, helped
                                                (Stanton)          Ocasio-Cortez       Vela (Correa)      a week bringing some bills to the floor,               health workers, helped States all to
                                              Jayapal (Raskin)       (Escobar)         Velázquez
                                              Jones (Jacobs        Payne (Pallone)                        but as we look around the country,                     meet the pandemic that this adminis-
                                                                                         (Jeffries)
                                                (CA))              Perlmutter
                                                                                       Waltz (Diaz-
                                                                                                          clearly the main concern we are hear-                  tration inherited.
                                              Kahele (Case)          (Neguse)
                                                                                         Balart)          ing from families are all of the various                 The pandemic was not the previous
                                              Kirkpatrick          Porter (Wexton)
                                                (Stanton)          Rodgers (WA)        Wasserman          crises that are facing American fami-                  administration’s fault, obviously, but
                                              Lawson (FL)            (Joyce (PA))        Schultz (Soto)   lies.                                                  the failure to deal with it effectively
                                                (Evans)            Rush                Watson Coleman       You have an inflation crises with                    was their fault.
                                              Lee (NV) (Clark        (Underwood)         (Pallone)        goods of all kinds costing dramatically
                                                                                       Williams (GA)
                                                                                                                                                                   So I tell the gentleman that 5 million
                                                (MA))              Salazar
                                              Lofgren (Jeffries)     (Cammack)           (Jacobs (CA))    more when people go to buy things at                   jobs have been created since this ad-
                                              Lynch (Trahan)       Sires (Pallone)     Wilson (FL)        the grocery store. If they try to get a                ministration took office. Some people
                                              McEachin             Smucker (Joyce        (Hayes)          new appliance, they are waiting longer,                lamented the 233,000 jobs last month,
                                                (Wexton)             (PA))                                they are paying more money.
                                              Meng (Jeffries)      Speier (Scanlon)
                                                                                                                                                                 how awful that was.
                                                                                                            You think about the energy crisis                      In the best year that Donald Trump
                                              Mfume (Evans)        Steel (Obernolte)
                                                                                                          with families paying 50 percent more                   had, that was his average production of
                                                                   f                                      for gasoline, in some cases, with dra-                 jobs—in the best year he had, which
                                                     LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM                                  matic increases at the pump and the                    was from January 2018 to January 2019.
                                                (Mr. SCALISE asked and was given                          pain that it causes, especially lower in-                So I will tell my friend, we hope to be
                                              permission to address the House for 1                       come families.                                         able to bring these bills to the floor.
                                              minute and to revise and extend his re-                       The border crisis, where every day we                We think they will have a very sub-
                                              marks.)                                                     see stories of thousands of people com-                stantial, positive impact. We inherited,
                                                Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, I rise                        ing across our border illegally. The At-               of course, because of the pandemic—
                                              for the purpose of inquiring of the ma-                     torney General was before the Com-                     again, not the fault of any—well, we
                                              jority leader the schedule for next                         mittee on the Judiciary and he
                                                                                                                                                                 don’t know whether it was the fault of
                                              week.                                                       couldn’t even give a number of how
                                                                                                                                                                 somebody purposely, but in any event,
                                                Madam Speaker, I yield to the gen-                        many people have illegally crossed or
                                                                                                                                                                 for whatever reasons, extraordinary
                                              tleman from Maryland (Mr. HOYER),                           plan to address it.
                                                                                                            The supply chain crisis that we see                  amounts of people were laid off around
                                              my friend, the majority leader.                                                                                    the world.
                                                                                                          getting worse and worse with ships
                                                Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, I
                                                                                                          backed up, maybe almost all the way                                     b 1145
                                              thank the gentleman for yielding.
                                                                                                          to China, because that crisis is not                     Then, because of the American Res-
                                                On Monday, the House will meet at 12
                                                                                                          being addressed.                                       cue Plan, we finally gave some people
                                              p.m. for morning hour and 2 p.m. for                          So when you think about all these
                                              legislative business with votes post-                                                                              the resources that they could buy
                                                                                                          crises that families are angry about—it                things that they had needed and want-
                                              poned, as usual, until 6:30 p.m.                            is hurting hardworking families, it is
                                                On Tuesday, the House will meet at                                                                               ed for them and their families, and now
                                                                                                          costing them, it is taking money out of                we have a supply shortage.
                                              10 a.m. for morning hour and 12 p.m.                        their paychecks—there has not been a
                                              for legislative business.                                                                                            The President acted through execu-
                                                                                                          single bill brought to this floor last                 tive order, as the gentleman knows, to
                                                And on Wednesday, the House will                          week. It doesn’t sound like any is being
                                              meet at 12 p.m. for legislative business.                                                                          make sure that we had a 24/7 operation
                                                                                                          brought to the floor next week to ad-                  at the ports off Long Beach, off other
                                                On Thursday, the House will meet at
                                                                                                          dress any of those crises.                             ports in our country, to try to make
                                              9 a.m. for legislative business.                              I would ask the gentleman, would he
                                                Madam Speaker, the House will con-                                                                               sure that we, A, got goods on those
                                                                                                          be open to bringing actual legislation
                                              sider several bills under suspension of                                                                            ships that you say are to China—I
                                                                                                          to the floor to address the various, se-
                                              the rules. The complete list of suspen-                                                                            don’t know whether they are to China,
                                                                                                          rious crises that families are facing
                                              sion bills will be announced by the                                                                                but there are a lot of them; you are ab-
                                                                                                          today?
                                              close of business today.                                      Madam Speaker, I yield to the gen-                   solutely right on that—to get them
                                                With the short-term extension of the                      tleman from Maryland.                                  offloaded, to get them on trucks, and
                                              Surface      Transportation      Program                      Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, I                          to get them to where they could be dis-
                                              through October 31, the House will aim                      thank the gentleman for his comments                   tributed and available for businesses.
                                              to consider the bipartisan Infrastruc-                      and question.                                            Then, of course, we have a substan-
                                              ture Investment and Jobs Act and the                          Let me say that I mentioned two                      tial shortage of chips, which the gen-
                                              Build Back Better Act this work pe-                         bills that will have a very, very sub-                 tleman knows, which was caused by a
                                              riod.                                                       stantial impact on the welfare of                      lockdown for major producers—Singa-
                                                In addition, the House will consider                      Americans, of their families, of their                 pore being one—of chips.
                                              H.R. 2119, the Family Violence Preven-                      health, and yes, even of their environ-                  So, we are dealing with that. The ex-
                                              tion and Services Improvement Act of                        mental security in the Build Back Bet-                 ecutive is dealing with that as well.
                                              2021, sponsored by LUCY MCBATH of                           ter plan and the BIP plan, which is a                    I very much hope the gentleman will
                                              Georgia. That bill modifies and ex-                         bipartisan bill on the Senate side.                    help us get that legislation passed,
                                              pands and reauthorizes, through fiscal                        I hope to bring both of those bills to               which will make a major difference.
                                              year 2026, the Family Violence Preven-                      the floor next week, if they are ready.                Who says? Fourteen or 17 laureates
                                              tion and Services Program, which                            Unfortunately, we don’t have help from                 who wrote to the White House and said
                                              funds emergency shelters and supports                       your side on either of those bills so it               if these bills passed, it is not only
                                              related assistance for victims of do-                       is more difficult to get unanimity on                  going to help jobs, it is not only going
                                              mestic violence.                                            our side of the aisle.                                 to help climate, it is not only going to
                                                Madam Speaker, if time allows, the                          Madam Speaker, I will tell my friend,                help health, but it is also going to help
                                              House may also consider H.R. 3992, the                      all those problems that you mentioned,                 bring down inflation, which is a prob-
                                              Protecting Older Jobs Applicants Act,                       would be extraordinarily worse if we                   lem.
                                              which allows applicants to bring dis-                       hadn’t passed the American Rescue                        Why do we have inflation? Because




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                                              parate impact claims under the Age                          Plan in March of this year, which                      we have too many dollars chasing too
                                              Discrimination in Employment Act of                         helped families extraordinarily and                    few goods, so prices go up. That is true
                                              1967 when they experience discrimina-                       generously to stay above water. Not a                  of employment as well, which probably
                                              tion while seeking a job.                                   single person on your side of the aisle                is good news in terms of salaries going
                                                Lastly, additional legislative items                      voted for those.                                       up for people around the country.
                                              may be possible when and if they are                          So when the gentleman asked me, are                    I tell my friend that we do have some
                                              ready.                                                      we going to bring legislation to the                   very substantial, important legislation



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                                              that we are trying to get done. It would                but gas was less than $2 a gallon all                  would open that back up again. These
                                              be a lot easier to get it done if we had                across America. We were exporting oil                  bills would lower gas prices.
                                              help from your side of the aisle. And                   and natural gas to our friends around                    I know President Biden isn’t inter-
                                              your answer will be, well, it would be                  the world. We were undermining our                     ested in that because, in his own budg-
                                              very helpful if you would take some of                  enemies around the world.                              et, he specifically blocks the Corps of
                                              our ideas. I get that.                                    Instead of President Biden begging                   Engineers from doing infrastructure
                                                I will also tell you, if the gentleman                OPEC and Russia to produce more oil,                   projects that would lower energy pro-
                                              is concerned about all of those issues,                 we were actually shipping oil and gas                  duction. President Biden blocks that.
                                              if we don’t protect the full faith and                  to our friends because we could produce                You would think OPEC would have
                                              credit of the United States of America,                 enough for ourselves. We created great                 come up with that idea or maybe Rus-
                                              they will all get disastrously worse.                   American jobs here at home. We had                     sia would have come up with that idea.
                                              And not one of you is prepared, in a                    low-cost energy.                                       No, that was President Biden in his
                                              debt that we all created, all of us, not                  By the way, the technological ad-                    own budget who said you can’t even do
                                              all on the same thing—it may have                       vances we made here in this country, if                infrastructure projects if it lowers en-
                                              been cutting revenues, increasing                       there is anywhere in the world where                   ergy production. Who would come up
                                              spending, this, that, and the other.                    fossil fuel production is going to be                  with that? Yet, that is in his budget.
                                                We all essentially voted for very sub-                done, you want it done here because we                   Then you go to the border crisis,
                                              stantial spending last year to meet the                 have actually lowered carbon emis-                     again, self-created. President Biden in-
                                              crisis of the pandemic. All of us did.                  sions. We were lowering carbon emis-                   herited a secure border. A wall was
                                              The CARES Act, the largest of those,                    sions in America while producing more                  being built. You had agreements with
                                              $2 trillion, was unanimously passed by                  energy. Now we have become more reli-                  South American and Central American
                                              a voice vote in one instance.                           ant on OPEC nations, on Russia.                        countries.
                                                The only thing I would say to the                       Not only is that bad for American                      Remain in Mexico was a great policy
                                              gentleman is that we are very, very                     families, but they are paying more at                  that President Biden reversed; he
                                              concerned about what is happening. We                   the pump because of that crisis created                blocked it. Did he block it because it
                                              are very glad that we created 5 million                 by President Biden’s actions. He inher-                was bad policy? No, it was working
                                              jobs. Nine million jobs were lost the                   ited an energy-dominant Nation. Now                    really well. It was an agreement be-
                                              year before under Mr. Trump. He had a                   you have the President of the United                   tween two neighboring countries. He
                                              net loss of 2 million jobs over his 4                   States begging OPEC and Russia to                      just blocked it because President
                                              years—a net loss of 2 million jobs. This                produce more oil, which they are not                   Trump did it. It was working, yet he
                                              President has a net gain, and we are                    going to do because they want oil to be                got rid of it. He could go and reinstate
                                              going to try to continue that. I hope we                over $80 a barrel, but they actually                   that tomorrow.
                                              get some help from your side of the                     emit more carbon to produce the same                     We have bills that would solve the
                                              aisle.                                                  oil.                                                   border crisis. I will read a few of them
                                                Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker,                             Oil is going to be needed to run an                  off.
                                              clearly, we stand ready to help on all of               economy, any economy anywhere in                         H.R. 4828 is a bill I brought to the
                                              those issues. But had Washington                        the world. You want to make it here                    majority leader’s attention back a
                                              spending and borrowing money solved                     because we do it better than anybody                   month ago, in September. This is a bill
                                              the problem, we would not have any of                   else. But that is not what is being                    that deals with a number of problems
                                              these crises because trillions of dollars               done. We have an answer for it.                        facing our border today, and it would
                                              have been borrowed and spent under                        I know, last night, President Biden                  give more tools to our Border Patrol
                                              this administration.                                    was asked specifically about this crisis               agents to secure our border.
                                                In the previous administration, we                    that he created. His response was, ‘‘I                   H.R. 471 is another bill I brought to
                                              worked together on those budget deals,                  don’t have a near-term answer’’ for                    the gentleman’s attention a month ago
                                              every one of them. The Paycheck Pro-                    high gas prices.                                       that would help secure America’s bor-
                                              tection Program and the CARES Act                         Well, President Biden might not have                 der, dealing with the crisis.
                                              were all very bipartisan, and it in-                    an answer, but we do. We have a num-                     None of these bills seem to draw the
                                              cluded addressing the debt that went                    ber of bills, and I know the gentleman                 interest of the majority even though
                                              along with it.                                          has pointed it out. We have a number                   every one of them would address these
                                                There has been nothing bipartisan in                  of answers.                                            very real crises facing families that
                                              any of the debt that has been racked up                   Here is one. H.R. 684 green-lights the               were not around a year ago.
                                              under this administration. So if the                    Keystone pipeline. You want to talk                      President Biden inherited a secure
                                              gentleman is concerned about the full                   about creating thousands of good jobs,                 border; he inherited energy dominance;
                                              faith and credit of the United States,                  private-sector money, more energy                      and he inherited an economy that was
                                              which we all are, then stop borrowing                   independence for America; this bill                    recovering from the worst pandemic we
                                              and spending trillions more dollars.                    would do just that, and it would do it                 have seen in lifetimes. Then, on top of
                                                Families get this, by the way. Fami-                  today.                                                 that, there is a proposal to raise tril-
                                              lies know that if spending trillions was                  If pipelines were a problem—I know                   lions more in taxes, more in Soviet-
                                              going to solve the problem, there                       President Biden doesn’t want American                  style spending coming out of Wash-
                                              wouldn’t be a problem because trillions                 pipelines, but he green-lighted the Rus-               ington that would make inflation
                                              have been borrowed and spent just                       sian pipeline, the Nord Stream II. So,                 worse.
                                              from January to October. What they                      clearly, it is not pipelines; it is Amer-                The gentleman is correct. We don’t
                                              know is it is the very borrowing and                    ican pipelines he doesn’t want.                        support those ideas that would make
                                              spending of trillions of dollars in Wash-                 Why don’t we bring up H.R. 684 to                    inflation worse, that would raise gas
                                              ington that has exacerbated these                       create jobs and lower energy costs?                    prices even higher. But we bring a lot
                                              problems.                                               H.R. 543 and H.R. 859 would both green-                of good ideas that would address these
                                                The inflation crisis would not exist if               light more production in America that                  crises. We just want to see these ideas
                                              you didn’t have Washington borrowing                    President Biden shut down. There was                   brought to the floor.
                                              and spending trillions more dollars,                    production going on all across Amer-                     When you look at the floor schedule
                                              making it harder for people to get back                 ica, really good, safe, environmentally                and there is nothing last week, next
                                              into the workforce, making it harder                    sound production. Again, our standards                 week, a month ago to address any of




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                                              for the supply chain to be addressed.                   are the best in the world.                             these crises, these are the things that
                                                What was inherited? I think we know                     For people who want to bash Amer-                    families are having the hardest time
                                              what was inherited by the Biden ad-                     ica, go find a country that produces en-               with, and they are struggling.
                                              ministration. We had energy domi-                       ergy that does it better than America.                   Inflation is the biggest tax on lower
                                              nance the day President Biden took the                  We do it best. Yet, President Biden,                   and middle-income families. President
                                              oath of office. Not only were we pro-                   through executive action, shut a lot of                Biden promised he wouldn’t raise taxes
                                              ducing enough energy for our needs,                     that production down. These bills                      on anybody making less than $400,000.



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                                              H5818                                              CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE                                                     October 22, 2021
                                              Yet, in the tax proposal that President                 down substantially from expectations,                    He did zero, Madam Speaker, zero
                                              Biden wants to bring forward by next                    it was 233,000.                                        when the Republicans were in charge.
                                              week so that he can go fly to Europe                      In other words, the wringing of the                  Zero.
                                              and talk about other proposals that                     hands over the poor job performance                      We are going to pass this infrastruc-
                                              would make it impossible to produce                     you seem to reflect was the average of                 ture bill, and it is going to make a real
                                              energy in America, they include,                        Mr. Trump’s best year. In fact, under                  difference. It is going to make a real
                                              among other things, a natural gas tax.                  this administration, helped by a bill,                 difference on jobs, it is going to make
                                              That tax would fall the hardest on                      the American Rescue Plan, that every                   a real difference on inflation, and it is
                                              lower income families, not the million-                 Republican voted against—what was                      going to make a real difference because
                                              aires and the billionaires. It would be                 the difference between the first five                  we can increase the supply chain. It is
                                              people making less than $60,000 that                    bills that were passed and the bill of                 going to make a real difference on the
                                              would be hit the hardest by a natural                   2021 that every Republican voted                       health of our globe.
                                              gas tax. Yet, it is in the bill.                        against? Donald Trump was President,                     So I tell the gentleman that he raises
                                                You talk about adding 83,000 IRS                      and then Joe Biden was President.                      a lot of issues, and I would hope his
                                              agents. Maybe some people in Wash-                        It is like the debt limit, Madam                     party would start returning to a sense
                                              ington think that is job creation. Most                 Speaker. They know the debt limit has                  of bipartisanship in dealing with legiti-
                                              people in America have shivers running                  to be raised, or all the things that the               mate problems that the gentleman
                                              down their spines at the thought of the                 gentleman just referenced are going to                 raises which we did in 2020.
                                              Federal Government, which now wants                     be hurt very, very badly.                                Now, we did. We were in the minor-
                                              to track every transaction if they                        Before you start criticizing people for              ity. We voted with President Trump.
                                              make more than $10,000 a year, to                       not doing things to help, why don’t you                Actually, we were in the majority, but
                                              track all their transactions with 83,000                stop hurting the ability of the United                 President Trump was President, and we
                                              new IRS agents. Again, maybe to some                    States to present a balanced fiscal pos-               helped support his and the Treasury
                                              that is called infrastructure, but to                   ture to our own economy and to the                     Secretary’s objectives and our own ob-
                                              most people, it is called a nightmare                   rest of the world and have some cer-                   jectives, and we came to an agreement,
                                              right before Halloween.                                 titude that America is going to remain                 a bipartisan agreement.
                                                                                                                                                               Very frankly, it is unbelievable to
                                                Why don’t we bring bills to the floor                 fiscally responsible and viable and pay
                                                                                                                                                             me, Madam Speaker, that in the debt
                                              to address these crises? If these aren’t                its bills? I don’t know the answer to
                                                                                                                                                             limit the minority leader of the United
                                              the bills that the majority likes, let’s                that question. Perhaps, Madam Speak-                   States Senate—and, very frankly, the
                                              work on some other ones. All of these                   er, the gentleman from Louisiana                       gentleman just said that we all under-
                                              would address these problems, and                       knows.                                                 stand we don’t want to—I presume he
                                              many of them would get us back to the
                                                                                                                        b 1200                               doesn’t believe we ought to not raise
                                              point where we were, where we had a
                                                                                                        The gentleman from Louisiana comes                   our debt limit. I believe he wants us to
                                              secure border, where we had energy
                                                                                                      from a very important and critical en-                 pay our bills because he knows the cat-
                                              dominance, where we had jobs being                                                                             astrophic impact if we don’t. But I
                                              created.                                                ergy producing State of our Nation. I
                                                                                                      don’t blame him for being concerned                    don’t understand why they won’t sup-
                                                Each of these last few months you
                                                                                                      about energy. He ought to be. We all                   port this. That is not an issue of Demo-
                                              have seen jobs created dramatically
                                                                                                      ought to be. But, very frankly, we                     crat or Republican. We all created that
                                              lower than what the projections were
                                                                                                      ought to also be very concerned about                  debt in one form or another. Certainly,
                                              because there are all of these self-cre-                                                                       last year we did a big number because
                                              ated crises by the administration that                  global warming, which the national se-
                                                                                                      curity apparatus of the United States                  we thought we needed to meet the pan-
                                              are making it harder on hardworking                                                                            demic. We did, and we saved millions of
                                              families. It is the lowest income fami-                 of America, even during the Trump ad-
                                                                                                      ministration, said was one of the big-                 jobs in the process.
                                              lies that are being hit the hardest by                                                                           So my friend has these bills, we have
                                              these failed policies and all the Big                   gest existential threats to the welfare
                                                                                                                                                             bills, we are prepared to talk about
                                              Government socialist spending coming                    of our people and the global commu-
                                                                                                                                                             proposals, as I have told my friend in
                                              out of Washington. We don’t need                        nity.
                                                                                                                                                             the past. But, very frankly, there needs
                                              more. We need to actually go and con-                     So, yes, we are very concerned about
                                                                                                                                                             to be on some issues—that ought not to
                                              front the problem that is creating a                    reaching an environment which is not
                                                                                                                                                             be political at all, like the debt limit—
                                              debt crisis and all the other crises that               dangerous for life on this planet. That
                                                                                                                                                             a statement that we are loyal to our
                                              families are facing.                                    is a very big issue for us. My friend is               country, not to Democrats. I said this
                                                It is not going to be by spending                     right, and we are going to deal with                   the other day to the gentleman, the
                                              more money and taxing people more. It                   that in the Build Back Better plan. We                 loyal opposition, not to Democrats, not
                                              is going to be by working to address                    are dealing with it, and we are dealing                to me as the majority leader, not to
                                              each of them, starting at the root of                   with it in the BIP plan.                               any of us, but to the country.
                                              the problem and what created them. I                      Now, the BIP plan is a plan to spend                   I would implore my friend, because
                                              yield to the gentleman.                                 $1.2 trillion on infrastructure invest-                we are going to have to do the debt, we
                                                Mr. HOYER. I don’t think I can re-                    ment over the next 10 years which will                 are going to have to do the omnibus,
                                              spond, nor do I intend to respond, to                   make our country more competitive,                     we are going to have to do the debt
                                              each one of those assertions. I noticed                 will increase our ability to produce                   limit, we want to do Build Back Better,
                                              that the gentleman totally ignored the                  goods here in America, Make It in                      and we want to do the infrastructure
                                              facts.                                                  America, which will make us more                       bill, those are four pieces of big legisla-
                                                The presentation the gentleman                        independent and self-sufficient. We                    tion we want to do before December 30,
                                              made, Madam Speaker, was as if the                      found during the pandemic we weren’t                   I am hopeful that we can get some co-
                                              Republican policies were in place, we                   as self-sufficient as we should be and                 operation from the Republicans.
                                              would be in high cotton.                                wanted to be.                                            I mentioned the debt limit because
                                                Let me remind the gentleman, Don-                       These bills that we are considering                  that is an issue that the gentleman
                                              ald Trump was President; the Repub-                     will do that.                                          came to us under the Trump adminis-
                                              licans were in the majority, Madam                        I don’t expect many Republicans to                   tration and asked us to help with. We
                                              Speaker; and over those 4 years, we                     vote for it. Even the transportation bill              knew it was critical for the interests of
                                              lost a net 2.876 million people from                    that I think they ought to be for—Don-                 the country, and on three different oc-




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                                              jobs. The last 12 months of the Trump                   ald Trump said he was going to spend                   casions we voted with the President at
                                              administration, 9,416,000 jobs were lost.               $1 trillion, have a $1 trillion infrastruc-            the Secretary of the Treasury under
                                              Let me remind you, the best year you                    ture program during his campaign, and                  the Trump administration’s request
                                              had, you had 2,820,000 new jobs. That is                then we went down to the White House,                  and voted to make sure that America
                                              about an average of 235,000 jobs a                      we had a meeting with him, and he                      did not default on its bills.
                                              month. Last month, when we were all                     said: No, $1 trillion is not enough, we                  Can I ask if the gentleman will at
                                              wringing our hands because it came                      ought to do $2 trillion.                               least, Madam Speaker, indicate that



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                                              they will support making sure that                        That is not something we support. It                 minority and they made decisions on
                                              America continues to pay its bills?                     will rack up more debt, by the way. We                 their own about what they wanted to
                                                Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, I                         don’t support it, but I guess the gen-                 do, they didn’t try to reach an agree-
                                              sure hope that the gentleman is con-                    tleman expects we should pay for it                    ment with us, to come to us after the
                                              cerned not just about making sure the                   even if we don’t support it. Maybe if                  fact when the majority has spent tril-
                                              credit card bill is paid but making sure                there was a negotiation where both                     lions of dollars, it has wreaked havoc
                                              that the spending that maxed out the                    sides were part of it.                                 through our economy, it has led to in-
                                              credit card is being done responsibly.                    SAM GRAVES, who is the ranking                       flation we haven’t seen in generations
                                                There are some key facts the gen-                     member of the Transportation and In-                   and gas prices we haven’t seen in dec-
                                              tleman left out in his conversation                     frastructure Committee, has not been                   ades, then the majority wants to come
                                              about how we got here. We got here be-                  included in any of these decisions on                  and not ask us how to fix it—we have
                                              cause in January, one party, the Demo-                  infrastructure. Yet, I am sure the gen-                got ideas on how to fix it—the majority
                                              cratic Party—who is in the majority in                  tleman would expect him to vote for                    asks us to pay the bill.
                                              the House, is in the majority in the                    whatever comes out of a partisan exer-                   Why don’t we work together on the
                                              Senate, and has control in the White                    cise. That is not how things work, and                 front end and not rack up trillions
                                              House—made a decision—I don’t agree                     I know the gentleman knows that.                       more in spending?
                                              with the decision—but made a decision                     Again, if the President wants to work                  Because the things the gentleman
                                              that they were going to go it alone on                  with us—                                               talked about would rack up trillions
                                              the spending side. They decided that                      Mr. HOYER. The gentleman con-                        more in spending which created these
                                              they were going to go max out the                       tinues to say facts that are not true.                 problems, and we were not a part of
                                              credit card. We urged them not to do                      Mr. SCALISE. Of course, those are                    those conversations. I wish we were a
                                              it. We still to this day are urging not                 true.                                                  part of the conversations and it was
                                              to go and just spend trillions and tril-                  Mr. HOYER. They are not true.                        done in a bipartisan way. But, again,
                                              lions more dollars.                                       Mr. SCALISE. We all negotiated on                    President Biden, 10 months into his ad-
                                                If my friend wants to work with us                    the three different debt ceiling in-                   ministration, has yet to sit down and
                                              on what the responsible decision should                 creases that happened under the Trump                  meet with House Republican leadership
                                              be, we are right here. We have been                     administration, including CARES and                    to talk about any of these ideas and so-
                                              here from the beginning.                                the Paycheck Protection Program.                       lutions we could come up with together
                                                Madam Speaker, do you know, to                        They were very bipartisan.                             which is how it should be done.
                                              this day President Biden has not met—                     Does the gentleman disagree with                       Madam Speaker, I yield to the gen-
                                              we are in October, late October. Presi-                 that?                                                  tleman.
                                              dent Biden has not met with the House                     Mr. HOYER. I do not disagree with it.                  Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, I
                                              Republican leadership on any of these                     Mr. SCALISE. Those are the facts.                    thank the gentleman for yielding.
                                              issues—any of them.                                     And so when the gentleman looked at                      The reason I said he was misstating
                                                The gentleman referenced a number                     those facts, the gentleman talked                      the facts is we have a bipartisan bill. It
                                              of opportunities where it was described                 about jobs and COVID. Before COVID                     wasn’t done by the Democratic leader-
                                              we were there to help President Trump.                  happened, we had the hottest economy                   ship. It, frankly, wasn’t done by the
                                              The majority wasn’t just there to help                  maybe in the history of our country.                   Republican leadership. It was done by
                                              President Trump, the majority was in                    Wages were up for every demographic                    Members of the United States Senate
                                              the meetings when the decisions were                    group. Those are facts. The gentleman                  on the Republican side and on the
                                              being made.                                             saw small businesses up and women-                     Democratic side.
                                                The Paycheck Protection Program                       owned small businesses were up over 20                   That bill was sent over here with al-
                                              was not a partisan exercise. In fact, it                percent. African-American unemploy-                    most half of the Republicans in the
                                              was one of the most successful bipar-                   ment was at its lowest level, Hispanic                 United States Senate voting for it, and
                                              tisan exercises I have seen Congress                    unemployment was at its lowest level,                  my friend’s leadership is lobbying
                                              come together and do. Everybody was                     and then COVID came along.                             against that infrastructure bill which
                                              in the room making those decisions.                       Maybe there is a reason why the ma-                  would help all the issues the gentleman
                                              They were all very important decisions                  jority won’t hold a hearing on the ori-                raised.
                                              and big decisions that involved a lot of                gin of COVID, but if the gentleman                       My friend is urging a ‘‘no’’ vote on
                                              money, and we all made those decisions                  wants to just say because of COVID all                 that, and he is threatening Members
                                              together. We all voted for those bills                  of that is Donald Trump’s fault, clearly               who are going to vote for it—maybe
                                              together, and then, ultimately, the                     the economy shut down, and we worked                   not very many—because they know it
                                              spending that went along with it, the                   to get it back going again, and it is                  is a bipartisan bill.
                                              debt that went along with it was part                   coming back. Frankly, some of the ef-                    Mr. SCALISE. No one is being threat-
                                              of that negotiation and we voted for it                 forts to pay people not to work—and it                 ened.
                                              together.                                               is not just enhanced unemployment, it                    Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, the
                                                There has not been a decision made                    is a whole list of things—are hurting                  whip is talking about bipartisanship.
                                              this year where the majority has nego-                  the recovery.                                          There has been so little bipartisanship,
                                              tiated with the minority to figure out                    But those things were happening be-                  and when there is bipartisanship, their
                                              if we could come to an agreement, so                    fore COVID hit a year and a half ago,                  Members are disciplined. When there is
                                              the majority did it on their own and                    and it was because of good, sound poli-                bipartisanship on saying that it wasn’t
                                              look, the majority had the votes to do                  cies that got us a secure border and                   a protest, it was an insurrection, there
                                              it.                                                     that got us energy dominance, and,                     was no bipartisanship on that.
                                                But when the majority maxes out the                   frankly, it was things like that that                    It was a: ‘‘We don’t care what it was.
                                              credit card on their own, don’t come                    helped us get the economy going again                  We don’t care that some people were
                                              and chide our side and say: Well, you                   because it was creating good jobs.                     killed. We don’t really care that they
                                              need to be there to pay the bill when                     Keystone pipeline was moving for-                    were trying to stop the counting of
                                              we weren’t included in the decision to                  ward. Those are good union jobs, by the                votes for the President of the United
                                              max out the credit card. And now that                   way, and that was ended by President                   States of America. It was just a pro-
                                              the credit card is maxed out, it is not                 Biden unilaterally. He never even tried                test.’’
                                              as if there is an effort to slow down, in               to have a meeting and a conversation                     That is what former President Trump




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                                              fact, it seems like it is full steam                    with us to see if we could come to an                  said the other day. What a bunch of
                                              ahead, damn the torpedoes, spend tril-                  agreement.                                             hooey. There clearly has been a con-
                                              lions of dollars more on additional                       Again, I guess it is the prerogative of              scious decision made by the leadership
                                              things like, again, 83,000 more IRS                     the majority. If the gentleman is in the               on the other side of the aisle, Madam
                                              agents.                                                 majority, then the majority doesn’t                    Speaker, against a bill that had 69
                                                Madam Speaker, do you think any-                      have to talk to the minority. But just                 votes in the United States Senate. We
                                              body on this side supports that?                        because the majority didn’t talk to the                only have 50.



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                                                And it is being lobbied against. Why?                 didn’t hurt inflation. And I have been                 that if all the spending wants to be
                                                To hurt Joe Biden.                                    amazed over the years, over the last 10                done in a partisan way—and I am talk-
                                                Yes, they voted, Madam Speaker, for                   years, that we haven’t had more infla-                 ing about the trillions that are still
                                              the five bills.                                         tion for a number of reasons.                          laying in front of us that the gen-
                                                Why?                                                    But he didn’t answer the question,                   tleman said may come to the floor next
                                                Because ultimately Donald Trump                       whether he would help on that. That is                 week, not necessarily will, might come
                                              was for them. Not everybody voted for                   not for us. It is not for Democrats, not               to the floor, might come to the floor a
                                              them, but the majority. And as I said,                  for Republicans. It is for our country.                month from now, might come to the
                                              CARES, $2 trillion, absolutely essen-                   It is for our economy. It is for global                floor a year from now. And we won’t
                                              tial, was passed. But the gentleman re-                 fiscal stability.                                      even be included in those negotiations,
                                              fuses to answer the question except to                    So I would hope at least in that                     but we ought to be expected to vote for
                                              say: Well, the credit card was maxed                    area—not for us. I am not asking you                   the debt that would be racked up by it?
                                              out.                                                    to do it for me, Madam Speaker. I am                     If the other side were being asked to
                                                The credit card was maxed out by                      not asking anybody to do it for me or                  do that, you know your majority
                                              date in a couple of those votes which                   for my party or for the President of the               wouldn’t go for that. But we wouldn’t
                                              we helped as the responsible opposi-                    United States. MITCH MCCONNELL says                    do it. We would at least include you in
                                              tion, as we did with John Boehner and                   it is the country and the global com-                  a negotiation. If we didn’t want to,
                                              Paul Ryan when they couldn’t get                        munity that could not afford default,                  then we would be responsible for doing
                                              votes to pass bills to keep government                  and that is true.                                      it on our own if we did the spending on
                                              open or to keep the United States from                    Let me tell you, I think that is the                 our own. And the tools are there to do
                                              defaulting. Yes, we cast the responsible                first step to showing bipartisan respon-               just that.
                                              vote.                                                   sibility together; not for one another,                  Threatening to default on the Na-
                                                It is not a popular vote because it is                but for our country, Madam Speaker.                    tion’s debt when legislative instru-
                                              demagogued, Madam Speaker. It has                       And I hope that at some point in time                  ments are included in this majority to
                                              nothing to do with the debt. The debt                   we can show that kind of good faith.                   not have default is irresponsible. That
                                              happens when you pass spending or                         I included this morning the remarks                  threat keeps being thrown out there by
                                              pass revenue cuts. That is what affects                 that President George W. Bush made in                  the majority, even though the majority
                                              the debt, and that is what all of us do                 Shanksville, Pennsylvania, on the kind                 knows they could, with a majority vote
                                              one way or the other.                                   of America that he wanted to see. I                    in the House and a majority vote in the
                                                So we are all responsible and we                      would hope all of my Republican col-                   Senate, address the debt that wants to
                                              ought to all be responsible. But the                    leagues would read what George W.                      be racked up between now and next De-
                                              Senate leader on the Republican side of                 Bush had to say. It is so different from               cember.
                                                                                                      the rhetoric of the current leader of                    Again, I would urge that all of that
                                              the aisle has said he is not going to do
                                                                                                      the Republican Party, Donald Trump,                    new spending doesn’t happen, that we
                                              anything.
                                                                                                      in terms of bringing us together as a                  come together and negotiate what
                                                Not only will he not do anything,
                                                                                                      country.                                               budget limits should be like we have
                                              Madam Speaker, he will not allow the
                                                                                                        Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, I                        done in the past under Republican and
                                              majority to do it on their own because
                                                                                                      would be happy to answer the question.                 Democrat Presidents. Those were bi-
                                              he is going to filibuster so it requires                                                                       partisan deals. There has been no bi-
                                              60 votes. We don’t have 60 votes. We                    It might not be the answer the gen-
                                                                                                      tleman wants, but I would be happy to                  partisan attempt to do that this year.
                                              have 51.                                                                                                         Why is there opposition to infra-
                                                                                                      be part of an actual bipartisan negotia-
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                                                                                                      tion on how to solve our country’s
                                                Not only will they not do the respon-                                                                        was a desire to do bipartisan infra-
                                                                                                      debt. That has not happened.
                                              sible thing on debt, which would ad-                                                                           structure, you are going to find a lot of
                                                                                                        But if you look at the bill that the
                                              versely affect, if we do not extend it,                                                                        takers over here. I know the gentleman
                                                                                                      gentleman brought to this floor to deal
                                              all the things that the minority whip                                                                          made an assertion—probably not real-
                                                                                                      with the debt over a month ago, it ab-
                                              lamented were wrong; it would all be                                                                           izing it—but there would have been no
                                                                                                      solutely dealt with spending, not that
                                              adversely affected if, for the first time                                                                      threats, no threats made on our side of
                                                                                                      already happened, but that will happen
                                                                                                                                                             the aisle on a bill.
                                              in history, Madam Speaker, we fail to                   in the future, including the trillions of                Now, I see people being followed into
                                              extend the debt limit, which, by the                    dollars of debt-laden bills that spend                 bathrooms on the other side and all
                                              way, very few countries have—one or                     more money in Washington.                              kinds of other things being done. There
                                              two—because it is a phony issue. The                      It picked a date, and the date that                  are no threats on this side. What we
                                              debt is not phony, but the limit is con-                the gentleman put in the bill that was                 said is, we want an infrastructure ne-
                                              trolled by what budgets we pass, what                   brought to this House floor was Decem-                 gotiation. But the day that the deal
                                              tax cuts we pass, what policies we pass.                ber 31, 2022. That is not spending we                  was reached in the Senate with the
                                                Once we do that, we go in the store,                  have already done. That is spending                    President, he turned around about an
                                              or as JIM MCGOVERN, the chair of the                    that the majority plans to do in a very                hour later and undermined that deal by
                                              Rules Committee said, we go in the res-                 partisan way, not just through this                    tying it, linking it, to the tax-and-
                                              taurant and buy the steak. You need to                  year but through all of next year.                     spend bill.
                                              pay for the steak. The argument,                          When we are not even included in                       That is when it became a problem be-
                                              Madam Speaker, of, oh, well, you are                    those decisions, then you come and                     cause taxing and spending trillions
                                              proposing a lot of spending in the fu-                  say, well, you should just be expected                 more dollars would be a problem to
                                              ture, is totally unrelated. The debt                    to pay for whatever we want to spend,                  this country. It would hurt middle-
                                              limit is caused by the debt that we al-                 trillions more, between now and the                    class families and lower income fami-
                                              ready incurred. The two bills that we                   end of a year, over a year from now,                   lies to have that natural gas tax, to
                                              had, they don’t affect the debt limit.                  that is not a negotiation. That is not                 have all the additional inflation on top
                                              We have met it now, not when we                         even an attempt to want to work with                   of the inflation they already see. It be-
                                              passed these bills, not after we make                   the other side.                                        came a problem for all of those rea-
                                              that commitment.                                          Now, again, the gentleman is in the                  sons, that package, not the individual
                                                We have a debt limit coming up now                    majority. In the Senate, they are in                   bill.
                                              on December 3, which was totally irre-                  the majority, and the gentleman very                     As the President himself has said




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                                              sponsible in and of itself, for political               well knows that both sides have the                    multiple times, as the Speaker herself
                                              reasons only, coterminous with the                      ability, if you want to do the spending                has said multiple times, it is not a
                                              funding of government. In 2019, when                    on your own, to address the debt that                  standalone bill. It is not two stand-
                                              we took over, the government was shut                   would be created by all of that spend-                 alone bills. It is a package. They are
                                              down. We spent a lot of time opening it                 ing on your own. It doesn’t take 60                    married together at the hip.
                                              up. That hurt the economy. That hurt                    votes. The gentleman is well aware                       That is where the opposition comes
                                              jobs. Now, at that point in time, it                    that there is a legislative instrument                 from. By the way, there is a really



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                                              good bipartisan infrastructure bill that                  I want to get back—and I know this                     Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, I
                                              is out there. S. 3011 came over from the                sounds like a broken record on the debt                thank the gentleman again for his
                                              Senate unanimously. $500 billion of in-                 limit, but the gentleman makes the                     comments.
                                              frastructure is authorized in this bill.                point, Madam Speaker, that somehow                       There is clearly a bipartisan bill on
                                              If the gentleman would bring this up                    we have raised the debt to accommo-                    infrastructure that we would be happy
                                              for a vote, it would probably fly over-                 date spending. That is what you always                 to support, S. 3011. Nobody in the
                                              whelmingly. It would allow for, again,                  do because if you reach the debt limit,                House on the Republican side was in-
                                              about $500 billion immediately that                     you are done. You stop Social Security.                cluded in any of those negotiations, in-
                                              could be spent on infrastructure all                    You stop veterans’ payments. You stop                  cluding the ranking member of the
                                              across this country, plus an additional                 any support payments. You stop paying                  Transportation Committee who he
                                              large sum next year—maybe $100 bil-                     the armed services of the United                       himself has been urging a large bill.
                                              lion next year—on top of the $500 bil-                  States. That is the spending you stop                  $450 billion was put on the table,
                                              lion.                                                   when you can no longer incur debt.                     which, by the way, if that were passed,
                                                It just passed out of the Senate                      Why? Because we spent a lot of money.                  it would be the largest infrastructure
                                              unanimously; every Republican, every                    We put it on the credit card, and it is                bill in the history of the United States.
                                              Democrat supported this bill. This is                   coming due. It comes due on a regular                  He was pushed out of the negotiations.
                                              real infrastructure. This is not tied to                basis, and we have to pay it on a reg-                   Again, the majority has that ability
                                              some tax-and-spend bill that maybe the                  ular basis.                                            because they are in the majority, but
                                              gentleman might think is a good idea.                     The gentleman has voted for bills                    they surely never tried a bipartisan ne-
                                              We surely don’t. We know how dam-                       that do exactly what the bill he la-                   gotiation, as well the gentleman
                                              aging it would be to our country and to                 mented, and none of his colleagues                     knows, on those prior budget agree-
                                              our economy and to middle and lower                     voted for, Madam Speaker, exactly                      ments.
                                              income families.                                        what he asked us to do, extend it by a                   It wasn’t just voted for or against be-
                                                This is a very bipartisan bill that                   date, not a number, by a date. Then he                 cause of who was in the White House.
                                              could be bipartisan here, where we                      hypothesizes, well, in that timeframe,                 It was voted for by both parties be-
                                              could be a part of a negotiation on                     you are going to incur additional ex-                  cause the negotiation on what that
                                              something really good, where States                     penses. He is absolutely right.                        spending limit was was agreed upon by
                                              wouldn’t have to wait months. They                        So, he is lamenting and giving as a                  the leadership of both sides.
                                              have the money ready to go today.                       reason for his not voting for it is be-                  Mr. HOYER. That is not accurate,
                                              This gives them the flexibility to make                 cause there are some proposals to                      and you know it.
                                              their own decisions on what is best for                 spend money in the future. There are                     Mr. SCALISE. The House, Senate,
                                              the infrastructure in each of these                     lots of them from all sides.                           Republican, Democrat, we came to
                                              States.                                                   Then he brings up this ‘‘tied to-
                                                Maryland would be able to control                                                                            agreement on those budgets, and that
                                                                                                      gether.’’ Let me tell you who has tied                 is why the gentleman voted for it. That
                                              their own destiny on over $1 billion.
                                                                                                      it together. The Republican leadership                 is why I voted for it, because it was a
                                              Louisiana would be able to control
                                                                                                      has tied these together. Yes, the Presi-               negotiated agreement. There was give
                                              their own destiny on over $1 billion
                                                                                                      dent talked about it. He said, no, they                and take on a number of items but ulti-
                                              today if this bill passed.
                                                So, absolutely, we support real infra-                are not tied together. He said, first of               mately agreed by a date certain but
                                              structure. If it is tied together and                   all, they are tied together, and then he               under a budget agreement.
                                              married to something that would be                      said, no, I negotiated this bill; don’t do
                                              devastating to the economy, of course                   it.                                                                      b 1230
                                              not. Maybe if the majority would look                     But I will tell the gentleman, as the
                                                                                                      majority leader who brings bills to the                  There is a date certain of December
                                              at delinking those two and abandoning                                                                          31 of 2022 that has no bipartisan agree-
                                              the bill that would raise taxes—and                     floor, their infrastructure bill passed
                                                                                                      overwhelmingly in a bipartisan vote                    ment. We know what a lot of the spend-
                                              even internally in the Democrat Cau-                                                                           ing will be, because trillions have al-
                                              cus those discussions have been going                   and put together in a bipartisan vote
                                                                                                      Republicans, Democrats, and the Presi-                 ready been spent that we were not in-
                                              on. That is not just Republicans asking                                                                        cluded in and we strongly opposed. The
                                              for that. There are a number of Demo-                   dent of the United States.
                                                                                                        Now, he is the President of the                      gentleman knew that when he brought
                                              crats asking for that, too. That would                                                                         the bills to the floor, but he wanted to
                                              be a bipartisan initiative to say we are                United States. I know the gentleman
                                                                                                      voted against certifying his election in               bring them to the floor anyway be-
                                              jettisoning this idea that we are going
                                                                                                      a bipartisan move, I suppose.                          cause you had the votes. I get it. That
                                              to raise hundreds of billions, if not
                                                                                                        But, Madam Speaker, that bill will                   is the way majorities work.
                                              multiple trillions—whatever the num-
                                                                                                      be brought up separately, and you vote                   But if you decide to exclude one
                                              ber—if it is $1 trillion, $5 trillion it
                                                                                                      for that bill on its merits and vote                   party from negotiations and go spend
                                              would be devastating to our economy
                                                                                                      against it on its merits. Do not hide be-              the money anyway and then have a
                                              and middle-class families.
                                                Let’s abandon that and go work on                     hind the fact that you don’t like some                 whole list of trillions more in spending
                                              something that would actually be real                   other bill.                                            down the road and include that in a
                                              infrastructure that we could all rally                    Donald Trump said he was going to                    bill, I don’t really think anybody ex-
                                              behind. It would pass overwhelmingly.                   do a trillion dollars on infrastructure                pects the people who were pushed to
                                              It would be good for the country. Presi-                to help our economy. He didn’t do it.                  the curb to vote for the credit card
                                              dent Biden would get to sign it into                    Then he said it was going to be $2 tril-               limit being increased with all the
                                              law. We would support that.                             lion. He didn’t do it. Republicans were                spending that is going to continue to
                                                I ask the gentleman to look at S.                     in the majority. They controlled the                   be racked up—not that has already
                                              3011, and if he is not a supporter of that              House and the Senate. They didn’t do                   been racked up—that will be racked up
                                              plan that passed with 100 Senators,                     it.                                                    between now and December 31 of 2022 is
                                              maybe there is a better idea. But this                    We have a bill they can vote for. I                  going to be done in a partisan way.
                                              one is a really good one that got every                 would urge them to vote for extending                  That is what the record has been so far
                                              Republican and every Democrat in the                    the debt limit so our country meets its                this year on the trillions that have al-
                                              Senate earlier this week to say yes. We                 full faith and credit obligations and for              ready been added by bills passed by
                                              would be happy to say yes to it as well                 the infrastructure bill because I think                this majority. They weren’t bipartisan.




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                                              if we are given that opportunity. I                     it is a bipartisan bill negotiated by Re-              Again, that is the prerogative of the
                                              yield to the gentleman.                                 publicans, by Democrats, and by the                    majority.
                                                Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, I think                     President of the United States which                     We have stood here ready. We have
                                              that bill passed the Senate Wednesday,                  will help our economy and, as I said                   listed bill after bill to address crisis
                                              so we will look at it, but we haven’t                   and will reiterate, every issue that the               after crisis, none of which have been
                                              had a chance to look at it at this point                gentleman raised, Madam Speaker, in                    brought to the floor. We are still ready
                                              in time.                                                his opening remarks.                                   to go to solve these problems. We have



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                                              talked about a bipartisan bill on infra-                the floor in a show of bipartisan sup-                   Instead, at that meeting, it has been
                                              structure that we can support. Ulti-                    port for our country, not for each                     reported that he said the two bills are
                                              mately, the majority makes that deci-                   other, but for our country.                            tied together. Since then, he said: I
                                              sion.                                                     Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, we                       want both of them coming to me. He
                                                I yield to the gentleman.                             need to do this in a bipartisan way,                   has tied them together. I wish he
                                                Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, if this                     which hasn’t happened. But partisan-                   wouldn’t. That is the President’s pre-
                                              Congress had never met this year, we                    ship is not patriotism, and we have                    rogative. He has made it very clear.
                                              would have to extend the debt limit at                  seen a lot of partisanship.                            The Speaker has made it very clear. It
                                              some point in time this year. That is a                   I have served in leadership under                    has not been our side that has done
                                              fact.                                                   three different Presidents now. When                   that. We want to separate those as a
                                                Mr. MCCONNELL has said it is incon-                   we had to negotiate how to come to-                    package, but they have been kept to-
                                              ceivable that we would not extend the                   gether on the priorities of our govern-                gether as a package. Until then, at
                                              debt limit of the United States of                      ment, how to properly fund things and                  least we have been looking for other
                                              America and fail our obligation under                   deal with our debt, under President                    opportunities, and we found one in S.
                                              full faith and credit. As a matter of                   Obama, we had those bipartisan meet-                   3011 that passed the Senate unani-
                                              fact, the Constitution, in the 14th                     ings in the White House. When Presi-                   mously. That would be $500 billion in
                                              Amendment, says it shall not be ques-                   dent Trump came in, we had those bi-                   real infrastructure today. Every Gov-
                                              tioned, but we have to take some legis-                 partisan meetings in the White House.                  ernor of every State would have the
                                              lative action.                                          Still to this day, late October, 10                    ability to start doing $500 billion in
                                                The issue is what is our responsi-                    months into his Presidency, there has                  new infrastructure projects. We think
                                              bility to the United States of America,                 not been a single time where President                 that would be really good for our coun-
                                              not all this argument that pretends                     Biden has brought a bipartisan group                   try. We support it. We are ready to ne-
                                              that somehow some bills that are pro-                   of our leadership together.                            gotiate.
                                              posed on spending or some that may                        I understand he has met with Demo-                     Madam Speaker, I yield to the gen-
                                              have been passed this year, if they                     crat leadership many times in the                      tleman.
                                              hadn’t been passed, somehow we                          White House. Again, that is his prerog-                  Mr. HOYER. Madam Speaker, this
                                              wouldn’t have to do this. If anybody on                 ative. He is the President; you are in                 needs to come to an end, obviously, but
                                              either side of the aisle believes that to               the majority. If you want to do all of                 I will tell you this, as I stand here, as
                                              be the case, they ought to be defeated                  this in a partisan way, I don’t suggest                somebody who sat on this floor on Jan-
                                              by their constituents because they                      it is healthy and I don’t suggest it is                uary 6 and the question was would the
                                              don’t know what is going on here, on                    the right way. Every President I have                  House perform its function of accepting
                                              either side of the aisle.                               served under in leadership has had bi-                 the electoral college vote to elect this
                                                This is a very serious issue with re-                 partisan meetings to have these con-                   President—it wasn’t that there hadn’t
                                              spect to jobs, infrastructure, inflation,               versations and come to an agreement.                   been voices in the past who had raised
                                              healthcare, and environment. All of                     That has not happened under this                       questions. But there was no effort by
                                              those will be adversely affected, and                   President.                                             Ms. Clinton, who received the majority
                                              the global community itself, if we do                     He ought to go and live by the words                 of the votes, or Mr. Gore, who received
                                              not extend this debt. We can argue                      that he promised during the campaign,                  the majority of the votes, to raise a
                                              about the other issues, but there is no                 that he would work with both parties                   question about the legitimacy of the
                                              argument about this issue.                              in a bipartisan way. To not have met                   election.
                                                Every Republican President has                        with House Republican leadership once                    But we had an insurrection incited
                                                                                                                                                             by, invited by, and deployed by the
                                              asked that this be done. Every Repub-                   during his Presidency, 10 months in, is
                                                                                                                                                             President of the United States. So we
                                              lican Secretary of the Treasury, since I                not an acceptable way to run this gov-
                                                                                                                                                             didn’t start on a very good bipartisan
                                              have been in this Congress, 41 years,                   ernment.
                                                                                                        Then all of a sudden, things end up                  basis, again, not because Republicans
                                              has asked that we extend the debt
                                                                                                      partisan, and everybody throws their                   should have been happy that their can-
                                              limit; every one of them, without fail.
                                                                                                      hands up and goes: How did this hap-                   didate was not elected or any more
                                              Every one of them has said—President
                                                                                                                                                             than we were happy that our candidate
                                              Reagan on—that if we did not do it, the                 pen? Just reach out. He is the Presi-
                                                                                                                                                             was not elected in the Clinton and Gore
                                              country’s economy, reputation, and                      dent of the United States. If he says
                                                                                                                                                             campaigns.
                                              well-being would be put disastrously at                 let’s go tomorrow, we will be there to-                  It was, at least, that we ought to up-
                                              risk.                                                   morrow. But he won’t do that. We have                  hold the constitutional principles. Vice
                                                I don’t want bipartisanship. I want                   asked for meetings. At some point they                 President Pence did, and there were
                                              patriotism. I want people committed to                  have to have them.                                     people in this Capitol on that night
                                              their country and their country’s well-                   Again, if he doesn’t want them to                    who wanted to see him, apparently,
                                              being to stand up and say: I am not                     happen, that is his prerogative, because               eliminated. That wasn’t a good bipar-
                                              going to demagogue an issue that is so                  the same party controls all levers of                  tisan start, Madam Speaker. The ma-
                                              critically important to the welfare of                  government. But if the same party con-                 jority of Republicans voted against cer-
                                              my Nation.                                              trols all levers of government and                     tifying the electoral college results in
                                                I say to the gentleman again: Ex-                     wants to just toss aside the other party               State after State. But we ought to put
                                              actly what they passed when they were                   in either Chamber—oh, we worked with                   that behind us. That is done. What we
                                              in the majority, and we voted for it,                   Senators. Even some of those Senators                  are doing now is we are acting on be-
                                              setting a future date—not a number, a                   that were mentioned are not sup-                       half of the country.
                                              future date. Exactly. We didn’t ask                     porting what is happening with debt,                     The two issues that I dwelt on, be-
                                              them to do anything more than we did.                   because there has been no negotiation                  cause I think we have agreement on
                                                In terms of bipartisanship, I will                    with both parties on the debt, on the                  that, rhetorically and intellectually
                                              again say: You have got a bipartisan                    spending that gets us to the debt. So                  but not electorally, not in terms of
                                              bill negotiated in a bipartisan way that                there can be proposals for trillions                   voting, is the debt limit should never
                                              will be coming to this floor at some                    more in spending. If we oppose it, we                  be breached and that we need to invest
                                              point in time, I hope earlier rather                    have been very clear why we have that                  in infrastructure, two simple propo-
                                              than later, separately—not tied to I                    opposition.                                            sitions.
                                              don’t like this bill, I don’t like that                   It wasn’t us that married those bills                  The Senate minority leader says: We




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                                              bill, I won’t do this, I won’t do that, I               together. President Biden came here                    should never breach the full faith and
                                              won’t do the other—which will sub-                      just two weeks ago. They said he was                   credit of the United States of America,
                                              stantially grow jobs in our country and                 going to be closing the deal. He was                   but I won’t help you do it. I don’t get
                                              deal with the climate crisis in our                     going to be the closer. We were going                  that. Frankly, it seems to be kind of ir-
                                              country.                                                to have a vote on the House floor. The                 rational.
                                                I would ask you to support both of                    Speaker promised there would be a                        And then an infrastructure bill
                                              those propositions when they come to                    vote on the House floor.                               passed overwhelmingly by the United



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                                              States Senate, which we are putting on                     I must rise today to express my grave                 His naval career started in 1983, fol-
                                              the floor unchanged, as it was, not cou-                concern that our Democrat colleagues’                  lowing his graduation from the U.S.
                                              pled—as it is and was—and saying let’s                  proposed spending bill lacks crucial                   Naval Academy with a degree in sys-
                                              vote for that.                                          protections that ensure that taxpayer                  tems engineering. From there, he went
                                                Mr. SCALISE. Madam Speaker, we                        funds do not pay for abortions.                        on to serve during the Gulf war.
                                              stand ready to work, if there is bipar-                    Without this protection, taxpayer-                    During his service, Admiral Faller
                                              tisan efforts made. We will see if that                 funded abortions not only harm us as a                 has held a variety of posts and posi-
                                              develops.                                               society but violate the religious free-                tions, from supporting the United Na-
                                                Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal-                  doms of thousands of Americans.                        tions’ sanctions against Iraq and the
                                              ance of my time.                                           The longstanding, bipartisan Hyde                   humanitarian efforts following the dev-
                                                               f                                      amendment ensures just that, that tax-                 astating tsunami off Indonesia to sup-
                                                                                                      payer funds do not go toward abortion.                 porting Operations New Dawn and En-
                                               REMEMBERING SUMMER BARROW                              However, the Democrats’ currently                      during Freedom. His service took him
                                                 (Ms. SPANBERGER asked and was                        proposed     multitrillion-dollar  build               all over the world.
                                              given permission to address the House                   back broke plan does not contain those                   Regardless of location, either on the
                                              for 1 minute and to revise and extend                   lifesaving protections.                                sea or shore, Admiral Faller consist-
                                              her remarks.)                                              In 1994, then-Senator Joe Biden                     ently provided leadership and guid-
                                                 Ms. SPANBERGER. Madam Speaker,                       wrote, ‘‘Those of us who are opposed to                ance.
                                              I rise to speak on the House floor about                abortion should not be compelled to                      Admiral Faller currently serves as
                                              Summer Barrow.                                          pay for them.’’                                        commander of the U.S. Southern Com-
                                                 Summer was born on July 4 and was                       In God we trust.                                    mand and will be retiring from the
                                              named for the season. Her mother,                                         f                                    Navy at the end of this month.
                                              Carey Colvin, said that Summer was a                                                                             Admiral Faller, thank you for your
                                                                                                         CHILD TAX CREDIT PROVIDES
                                              firecracker, she was vivacious, she                                                                            service to the United States of Amer-
                                                                                                       CRITICAL SUPPORT TO FAMILIES
                                              loved to dance, she loved to sing, and                                                                         ica. Your dedication to our country is
                                              she loved music. But Summer died of a                     (Mr. HORSFORD asked and was
                                                                                                                                                             admirable. Enjoy your retirement. You
                                              fentanyl overdose in January of 2020.                   given permission to address the House
                                                                                                                                                             deserve it.
                                                 Summer’s substance use disorder                      for 1 minute and to revise and extend
                                              began     after   she   was    prescribed               his remarks.)                                                            f
                                              oxycodone after a car accident, and                       Mr. HORSFORD. Madam Speaker, 7
                                              when the prescription ran out, she                      months ago, Democrats passed a his-                        MAKING AMERICA THE BEST
                                              turned to heroin.                                       toric tax cut for middle-class families                      COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
                                                 This vibrant young woman lost her                    and lifted millions of children out of                   (Ms. JACKSON LEE asked and was
                                              life to a substance use disorder, and                   poverty.                                               given permission to address the House
                                              amid her loss, her mother, Carey, has                     Since then, some of my conservative                  for 1 minute.)
                                              turned to advocacy.                                     colleagues have had the audacity to                      Ms. JACKSON LEE. Madam Speaker,
                                                 In her honor, I was proud to intro-                  complain that we helped too many                       it gives me great joy when I can come
                                              duce the bipartisan Support Recovery                    children.                                              to the floor and really speak directly
                                              for Addiction Act, legislation that                       In my district, here is what it means                to the moms and dads and families that
                                              would create a guaranteed funding                       when 97 percent of families are eligible               right now, as we stand on the floor, are
                                              stream for recovery support services                    for the child tax credit:                              probably looking to gather children
                                              and community organizations.                              For Yvette, it means healthy food on                 from schools, looking at what they are
                                                 Of her daughter, Carey said: ‘‘I know                the table.                                             going to do over the weekend, maybe
                                              what she would want to say is: ‘Please                    For Sara, it means being able to af-                 doing grocery shopping and looking at
                                              get help.’’’                                            ford her child’s preschool tuition.                    the resources that they do have or do
                                                 This bill would help deliver that help                 This money goes straight into our
                                                                                                                                                             not have.
                                              to others, just as Summer and so many                   local economy, helping parents get
                                                                                                                                                               It is important that we immediately
                                              others that we have lost to substance                   back to work and build the future that
                                                                                                                                                             pass the Build Back Better Act and
                                              use disorder would have wanted.                         their children deserve.
                                                                                                                                                             that those who have a difference of
                                                                                                        But without a clean extension of the
                                                               f                                                                                             opinion realize that it is always the
                                                                                                      child tax credit, American families will
                                                                                                                                                             greater good that America has always
                                                                    b 1245                            lose this critical support just as the
                                                                                                                                                             been about. When we have gone to war,
                                               RESTORE THE HYDE AMENDMENT                             economy begins to recover.
                                                                                                        This tax credit isn’t a handout. It is               we have not gone to war to be an of-
                                                (Mr. WENSTRUP asked and was                           about putting hard-earned tax dollars                  fender. We have gone to war to defend
                                              given permission to address the House                   back in the pockets of working fami-                   principles of democracy.
                                              for 1 minute and to revise and extend                   lies with children.                                      I believe the Build Back Better Act
                                              his remarks.)                                             For any of my colleagues who won’t                   will provide greater pricing of prescrip-
                                                Mr. WENSTRUP. Madam Speaker,                          vote to help their constituents, let me                tion drugs, strengthening the Afford-
                                              there comes a time to dispel the myth                   be clear: I will vote for the families in              able Care Act, expanding Medicaid for
                                              that we must choose between women’s                     your districts and mine because our                    some 12 States. The State of Texas
                                              rights and children’s rights. Now is the                children deserve nothing less.                         happens to be one of them, where
                                              time because we can protect both.                                                                              733,000-plus people are uninsured. These
                                                                                                                        f
                                                Sadly, abortion reveals society’s in-                                                                        are working people. Expanding Federal
                                              ability to love, to protect, and to care                    CONGRATULATING ADMIRAL                             Medicaid is going to help those people
                                              for the most innocent and helpless                         FALLER ON HIS RETIREMENT                            in States like Kansas and South Da-
                                              among us.                                                 (Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania                        kota. If they won’t speak for them-
                                                When we devalue life, our society suf-                asked and was given permission to ad-                  selves, I will speak for America.
                                              fers. When we deem some to be non-                      dress the House for 1 minute and to re-                  In addition, the care economy really
                                              essential, we devalue their lives.                      vise and extend his remarks.)                          says that we must give childcare and
                                                I am strongly pro-life, and I consist-                  Mr. THOMPSON of Pennsylvania.                        universal kindergarten to people so
                                              ently stand up for the rights of the un-                Madam Speaker, I rise today to recog-                  that we can be advanced and our people




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                                              born and the born.                                      nize the storied career of Admiral                     can be helped.
                                                Our society is willing to and does                    Craig Faller, commander of the U.S.                      Finally, let me say that voting is im-
                                              care for the mother in need. Perhaps                    Southern Command.                                      portant and crucial. We must pass vot-
                                              she is scared and alone. Americans                        Admiral Faller is a native of                        ing rights.
                                              across the country reach out to help                    Fryburg, Pennsylvania, a small town                      This is Build Back Better America,
                                              mothers and the children that they are                  located in Clarion County, in Penn-                    and build back makes America the best
                                              nourishing in their wombs.                              sylvania’s 15th Congressional District.                country in the world.



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