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House Record, June 24, 2021 — Congressional Record

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Congressional Record, House, page H3099, June 24, 2021. In debate on a bill about lending to LGBTQ-owned businesses, remarks in support state that the bill would expand the section 1071 reporting requirements, under which financial institutions report information about the race, ethnicity, and sex of credit applicants who serve as principal owners of small businesses, to include sexual orientation and gender identity. The remarks state that the bill passed unanimously out of the House Financial Services Committee with a voice vote and is supported by the Human Rights Campaign, the National Center for Transgender Equality, and the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, among others.

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                                            June 24, 2021                                      CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE                                                                     H3099
                                            am filling out the application, I would                    Madam Speaker, this bill takes nec-                 forcement of the ECOA, requires financial in-
                                            probably indicate that I am a minority                  essary action to help ensure that                      stitutions to report information about the race,
                                            person, although I don’t like the term.                 LGBTQ-owned businesses are treated                     ethnicity, and sex of credit applicants who
                                            I use it only to communicate. I do not                  fairly by financial institutions and pro-              serve as principal owners of small businesses.
                                            like the term ‘‘minority.’’ But for the                 tected against lending discrimination.                 My legislation would expand the 1071 report-
                                            purpose of communicating today, I                       The bill passed unanimously out of the                 ing requirements to include not only sex but
                                            would indicate that I am a minority                     House Financial Services Committee                     also sexual orientation and gender identity. It
                                            person.                                                 with a voice vote. So I am pleased that                would enable anti-discrimination enforcement
                                              The only thing this bill will do, as it               the majority leader has worked with                    where none might exist.
                                            relates to acquiring the intelligence, is               me to bring this bill back up for a vote                  Even though the United States has made
                                            give us another space so that we can                    quickly.                                               substantial strides toward LGBTQ equality, the
                                            now indicate that, if you so choose,                       This bill is supported by the Human                 mission is far from accomplished. Seventy
                                            Madam Speaker, you are a member of                      Rights Campaign, the National Center                   percent of the LGBTQ community remains un-
                                            the LGBTQ-plus community.                               for Transgender Equality, Out Leader-                  protected by anti-discrimination laws. When it
                                              In filling out this form, if I chose not              ship, the National Gay and Lesbian                     comes to credit, according to the Williams In-
                                            to indicate I was a minority person, I                  Chamber of Commerce, and many oth-                     stitute, more than 7.7 million LGBTQ adults
                                            wouldn’t have to. I would just sign it,                 ers.                                                   live in states that offer no protection against
                                            completing the other aspects of it, and                    Although some of my colleagues did                  discrimination based on sexual orientation or
                                            I would be done with it.                                not support this bill last week, I urge                gender identity.
                                              It only allows for the placement of                   them to reconsider, to support all                        It is often said that knowledge is power.
                                            additional language on the document                     small businesses this week, and vote                   Knowledge affords us the power to detect dis-
                                            so that persons who desire to—and it is                 ‘‘yes’’ on H.R. 1443.                                  crimination that might otherwise go unde-
                                            important to note, Madam Speaker,                          I would like to thank the ranking                   tected. Take, as an example, the Home Mort-
                                            that you must have the desire; it is                    member for his consideration, his sup-                 gage Disclosure Act, which is analogous to
                                            with intentionality, and you volun-                     port. In closing, I would just like to                 the legislation before us. Both the National
                                            tarily do this—would indicate, if you                   add that, as Mr. GREEN identified, I,                  Community Reinvestment Coalition and Iowa
                                            choose to, that you are a member of                     too, am a victim of discrimination for                 State University reviewed data from the HMDA
                                            the LGBTQ-plus community.                               most of my life, and all of my family                  and found that same-sex couples were denied
                                                                                                    and my dear friends and sometimes the                  loans at higher rates than heterosexual cou-
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                                                                                                    entire neighborhood that I have lived                  ples, despite having comparable creditworthi-
                                              I must say, candidly, I really don’t                  in.                                                    ness. It also found those same-sex couples
                                            see how this can become the debate                         So we know what it feels like, and we               paid higher fees and interests. The lesson of
                                            that it has become. At some point in                    know that there is, for example, today,                the HMDA is that sunlight can be a powerful
                                            this country, we have to understand                     a huge wealth gap because of discrimi-                 disinfectant against discrimination.
                                            that discriminating against people be-                  nation, a lack of being able to borrow                    H.R. 1443 would make credit more acces-
                                            cause of who they are is inappropriate.                 from the banks that were making cred-                  sible, credit laws more enforceable, and credi-
                                            It is unlawful.                                         it available to so many others. It was                 tors more accountable. It would represent a
                                              I am the son of a segregated South,                   not made to us. So oftentimes we were                  triumph of transparency in the service of eco-
                                            where I was lawfully discriminated                      not able to buy a home. We were not                    nomic opportunity for all, regardless of who
                                            against. I know what it looks like. I                   able to get a loan for the basic kind of               you are and whom you love.
                                            know what it smells like. I know what                   things that any family would need.                        The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time
                                            it sounds like. I know what invidious                      So we cannot, and I cannot be a part                for debate has expired.
                                            discrimination tastes like. I drank                     of public policy and systems and proto-                   Pursuant to House Resolution 486,
                                            from filthy colored water fountains in                  cols that would exclude the LGBTQ                      the previous question is ordered on the
                                            my lifetime.                                            community from being able to get                       bill, as amended.
                                              I don’t wish any of this type of be-                  loans in the ways that others are                         The question is on the engrossment
                                            havior that I had to endure on anyone                   doing. It is pure discrimination. It                   and third reading of the bill.
                                            else, so I rise today in support of this                must stop.                                                The bill was ordered to be engrossed
                                            legislation as a continuation of my                        Madam Speaker, I urge all of my col-                and read a third time, and was read the
                                            mission to do all that I can to help oth-               leagues on both sides of the aisle to                  third time.
                                            ers avoid the horrors of invidious dis-                 vote ‘‘yea’’ on H.R. 1443, and I yield                    The SPEAKER pro tempore. The
                                            crimination.                                            back the balance of my time.                           question is on passage of the bill.
                                              I am so grateful to Chairwoman                           Mr. TORRES of New York. Madam Speak-                   The question was taken; and the
                                            WATERS for all she has done. She has                    er, in the United States, there are 1.4 million        Speaker pro tempore announced that
                                            always been a friend, not only to me,                   LGBTQ businesses contributing more than                the ayes appeared to have it.
                                            but to those who are among the least,                   $1.7 trillion to the American economy. We                 Mr. ROSENDALE. Madam Speaker,
                                            the last, and the lost. And I thank the                 have a vested interest in sustaining and               on that I demand the yeas and nays.
                                            gentlewoman for all that she has done.                  strengthening these businesses with equal ac-             The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-
                                              Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I                         cess to credit, which is the beating heart of          ant to section 3(s) of House Resolution
                                            yield myself the balance of my time.                    the American economy.                                  8, the yeas and nays are ordered.
                                              Madam Speaker, I think my col-                           As a former New York City Council Member,              Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, fur-
                                            league Mr. GREEN outlines this well.                    I partnered with the National LGBTQ Chamber            ther proceedings on this question are
                                            This is not a mandatory reporting bill,                 of Commerce to establish the nation’s largest          postponed.
                                            but data collection. Though the terms                   municipal certification program for LGBTQ                                f
                                            may not be perfect to Chairman                          business enterprises, enabling those busi-
                                            GREEN’s points and perhaps we need to                   nesses to enjoy equal access to a $25 billion          PROVIDING FOR CONGRESSIONAL
                                            look at the language of this reporting,                 pool of government procurement.                          DISAPPROVAL OF THE RULE
                                            for sure, but this is not a mandatory                      The legislation before us, H.R. 1443, builds          SUBMITTED BY THE OFFICE OF
                                            reporting bill. This is voluntary infor-                on a foundation laid by several statutes and             THE COMPTROLLER OF CUR-
                                            mation that borrowers can offer up or                   regulations. The Equal Credit Opportunity Act            RENCY RELATING TO ‘‘NATIONAL
                                            not. Data is a good thing, especially if                (ECOA) prohibits credit discrimination, includ-          BANKS AND FEDERAL SAVINGS
                                            it is provided voluntarily.                             ing but not limited to sex discrimination. A new         ASSOCIATIONS AS LENDERS’’




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                                              For those reasons, I support this bill                interpretive rule from the Consumer Financial            Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, pur-
                                            and I urge its adoption.                                Protection Bureau (CFPB) clarifies that the            suant to House Resolution 486, I call up
                                              Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal-                  ECOA’s prohibition against sex discrimination          the joint resolution (S.J. Res. 15) pro-
                                            ance of my time.                                        applies to sexual orientation and gender iden-         viding for congressional disapproval
                                              Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I                          tity. Section 1071 of the Dodd-Frank Act,              under chapter 8 of title 5, United
                                            yield myself the balance of my time.                    which exists to enable and enhance the en-             States Code, of the rule submitted by



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                                            the Office of the Comptroller of Cur-                   partnered with banks, so long as they                    Additionally, let’s not forget that
                                            rency relating to ‘‘National Banks and                  held the primary economic interest in                  during the last election, Nebraska
                                            Federal Savings Associations as Lend-                   a consumer loan.                                       joined 45 States and the District of Co-
                                            ers’’, and ask for its immediate consid-                  Trump’s OCC allowed nonbanks to                      lumbia that have already passed legis-
                                            eration in the House.                                   launder their loans through OCC-char-                  lation to limit usury rates for small-
                                              The Clerk read the title of the joint                 tered banks, as long as the bank is list-              dollar installment loans.
                                            resolution.                                             ed on the loan origination documents,                    The Trump-era True Lender Rule is a
                                              The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-                       effectively allowing nonbanks to ig-                   backdoor way for nonbanks to charge
                                            ant to House Resolution 486, the joint                  nore State usury laws.                                 triple-digit interest rates on loans at
                                            resolution is considered read.                            Simply put, before this Trump-era                    the expense of consumers in States
                                              The text of the joint resolution is as                rule was finalized, if a nonbank in Cali-              where voters turned out to pass inter-
                                            follows:                                                fornia, which has an interest rate cap                 est rate cap laws.
                                                              S.J. RES. 15                          of, for example, 36 percent, wanted to                   No wonder some called this the ‘‘fake
                                                                                                    make a loan to a customer in Cali-                     lender’’ rule.
                                              Resolved by the Senate and House of Rep-                                                                       For these reasons, I urge my col-
                                            resentatives of the United States of America in         fornia, the nonbank can’t charge more
                                            Congress assembled, That Congress dis-                  than 36 percent. OCC’s True Lender                     leagues to support this bill. And for
                                            approves the rule submitted by the Office of            Rule turns this commonsense legal                      those who did not understand what we
                                            the Comptroller of Currency relating to ‘‘Na-                                                                  were talking about when we talked
                                                                                                    doctrine on its head.
                                            tional Banks and Federal Savings Associa-                 What the Trump-era rule says is that                 about the True Lender Rule, I think I
                                            tions as Lenders’’ (85 Fed. Reg. 68742 (Octo-           this nonbank can now partner with a                    have laid it out in such a way that you
                                            ber 30, 2020)), and such rule shall have no                                                                    understand this is predatory. This is a
                                            force or effect.
                                                                                                    national bank that is based in, for ex-
                                                                                                                                                           rip-off. And for these reasons, I urge
                                                                                                    ample, Utah, which doesn’t have an in-
                                              The SPEAKER pro tempore. The                                                                                 my colleagues to support this bill.
                                                                                                    terest rate cap, to now legally charge                   Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal-
                                            joint resolution shall be debatable for                 virtually any interest rate to the con-
                                            one hour, equally divided and con-                                                                             ance of my time.
                                                                                                    sumers in California.                                    Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I
                                            trolled by the chair and ranking minor-                   This is true even if the bank in Utah
                                            ity member of the Committee on Fi-                                                                             yield myself such time as I may con-
                                                                                                    has done nothing but put its name on                   sume.
                                            nancial Services or their respective                    the loan paperwork and intends to im-                    Madam Speaker, I rise in strong op-
                                            designee.                                               mediately transfer the loan to the                     position to this resolution.
                                              The gentlewoman from California                       nonbank in California. We have seen                      Earlier this week, President Biden
                                            (Ms. WATERS) and the gentleman from                     interest rates of more than 150 percent                met with financial regulators. From
                                            North Carolina (Mr. MCHENRY) each                       charged to consumers in this way.                      the four-sentence recap released by the
                                            will control 30 minutes.                                  The committee’s work has shone a                     White House, we know one of the topics
                                              The Chair recognizes the gentle-                      spotlight on heartbreaking stories of                  they discussed was ‘‘promoting finan-
                                            woman from California.                                  the harm that this rule has caused to                  cial inclusion and responsibly increas-
                                                             GENERAL LEAVE                          consumers and small business owners.                   ing access to credit.’’
                                              Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I ask                      Let me give you a real-world example                     I agree with that concept, and I
                                            unanimous consent that all Members                      of a Black-owned small business that                   think we should all agree with that
                                            may have 5 legislative days within                      was harmed by one of these rent-a-                     concept. Unfortunately, my Democrat
                                            which to revise and extend their re-                    bank schemes authorized by Trump’s                     colleagues here in the House and the
                                            marks on S.J. Res. 15 and to insert ex-                 OCC.                                                   Senate don’t seem to be on the same
                                            traneous material thereon.                                A recent news report detailed the                    page with the Biden administration.
                                              The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there                     case of Carlos and Markisha Swepson,                   This resolution we are considering
                                            objection to the request of the gentle-                 who were the owners of Boulevard Bi-                   today would actually make financial
                                            woman from California?                                  stro, a restaurant in Harlem, New                      services more expensive and credit less
                                              There was no objection.                               York. As they told NBC News, they                      available to consumers and to small
                                              Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I                          took out several business loans for                    businesses and families across the
                                            yield myself such time as I may con-                    $67,000 and were charged a whopping 268                country.
                                            sume.                                                   percent APR.                                             So why are my Democrat colleagues
                                              Madam Speaker, I rise today in sup-                     For all intents and purposes, their                  strong-arming this resolution through
                                            port of S.J. Res. 15, a resolution to in-               lender was World Business Lenders, a                   Congress?
                                            validate the Office of the Comptroller                  nonbank lender that has a partnership                    Well, the answer is pretty simple. It
                                            of the Currency’s so-called True Lender                 with Axos Bank. This is a bank in New                  is politics. That is what it is. Let’s call
                                            Rule under the Congressional Review                     York State. Even though the loan was                   this what it is. It is blue States and
                                            Act.                                                    made by World Business Lenders, be-                    their leftwing, so-called consumer pro-
                                              This resolution would end a dan-                      cause Axos Bank’s name was on the                      tection advocates who want to, again,
                                            gerous Trump-era rule that would                        loan documents, the nonbank could by-                  limit the reach of national banks and
                                            allow predatory lenders to evade State                  pass the New York usury limit of 25                    partnerships under the guise of ‘‘con-
                                            usury laws and target consumers with                    percent APR.                                           sumer protection.’’
                                            high interest rate loans of 150 percent                   Due to the pandemic, the Swepsons                      Democrats are more interested in
                                            or higher through sham partnerships                     are now behind on their loan payments.                 scoring political points with leftwing
                                            with banks.                                             They are now facing foreclosure pro-                   activists than supporting the bor-
                                              I would like to thank Representative                                                                         rowers and small businesses that this
                                                                                                    ceedings filed by World Business Lend-
                                            GARCÍA from Illinois for introducing                                                                          OCC True Lender Rule helps.
                                                                                                    ers on a home they own that acts as
                                            the House companion to this measure                     collateral for the high interest rate                                  b 1330
                                            and for his leadership in fighting to                   loans. If not for Trump’s rule, the                      We have witnessed Democrats work
                                            protect consumers from predatory                        Swepsons would have only been                          for decades to limit the scope of na-
                                            lending schemes.                                        charged a 25 percent interest rate and                 tional banks through one measure or
                                              My committee has held several hear-                   would probably not be facing financial                 another.
                                            ings that have exposed the consumer                     ruin.                                                    The National Bank Act was signed
                                            harm that results from these rent-a-                      If Congress lets this Trump-era rule                 into law in 1864. We have national
                                            bank schemes and explored how the                       stand, these kinds of predatory, triple-               banks. We have had national banks for




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                                            Trump administration’s harmful rule                     digit interest rate loans will continue                157 years in this country similar to
                                            erodes the consumer protections.                        to be made through these kinds of rent-                today. What they are striking at is op-
                                              The OCC’s rule undoes centuries of                    a-bank schemes, and lenders will con-                  position to what we have lived with for
                                            case law that ensured that nonbank fi-                  tinue to take advantage of small busi-                 over 157 years of well-regulated na-
                                            nancial institutions were subject to                    ness owners and other consumers des-                   tional banks doing business across the
                                            State interest rate caps when they                      perate to stay afloat.                                 country.



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                                              The left, my colleagues on the oppo-                    This legal clarity enables bank and                  rule? They don’t. There are other ele-
                                            site side of the aisle, will provide mis-               fintech partnerships to provide their                  ments that the left opposes that actu-
                                            leading statements about interest rates                 customers with the financial products                  ally, on a bipartisan basis, we oppose,
                                            and spurious arguments about State                      they want and need.                                    but the true lender rule is not it.
                                            versus Federal regulation. They will                      Consider this: According to the New                     It is a question of whether or not the
                                            argue consumers are harmed and this                     York Federal Reserve, one in four Afri-                bank that is providing you the loan is,
                                            so-called partisan rule that they are                   can-American-owned         firms     used              in fact, the true lender. That is it. It is
                                            driving invites bad banking practices.                  fintechs to access PPP loans, one in                   not fancier than that, people. That is
                                              Above all else, my colleagues across                  four. And they did so using this legal                 what it is. That is what we are arguing
                                            the aisle see this as an opportunity to                 doctrine that enabled that to happen in                about today, and that is kind of the ab-
                                            rebuke the last administration, simply                  partnerships with national banks.                      surdity of this stuff that we are debat-
                                            because they don’t like the former                        Technology helps create greater fi-                  ing right now, because it is that sim-
                                            President. I understand that. There is                  nancial inclusion. So why are my Dem-                  ple.
                                            plenty of debate about that. But we                     ocrat colleagues so afraid of tech-                       So let’s promote financial inclusion
                                            should not tinker with existing law                     nology, so afraid of innovation?                       the way that the President outlined,
                                            that is longstanding and predates this                    Per usual, my Democrat colleagues                    which was promoting financial inclu-
                                            President or any other President. We                    are willing to ignore facts in favor of                sion, making rates more competitive
                                            should be talking about the contents of                 myths that back up their preferred                     and the cost of credit cheaper for indi-
                                            that law.                                               narrative. That is unfortunate, espe-                  viduals. Let’s do that. Let’s oppose this
                                              I would like to remind my friends as                  cially for something this important.                   resolution before us so we can have
                                            well that it was the Obama administra-                    The left likes to say that banks can                 sound principles, so we can drive that
                                            tion who supported the risk-manage-                     charge whatever interest rate they                     inclusion that is necessary and very
                                            ment principles underlying the true                     want. That is simply not true. Federal                 important.
                                            lender rule. It was an effort to regu-                  law gives national banks and Federal                      Madam Speaker, I reserve the bal-
                                            late, to ensure that instead of having                  savings associations the same author-                  ance of my time.
                                            shadow banking provide these services,                  ity that State banks have regarding ex-                   Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I
                                            that you have well-regulated consumer                   portation of interest rates.                           yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman
                                            protection laws at the Federal level as                   Now, both Federal- and State-char-                   from California (Ms. PELOSI), the
                                            a part of this process.                                 tered banks must conform to applica-                   Speaker of the House of Representa-
                                              So once again, we have the oppor-                     ble interest rate limits in those States.              tives.
                                            tunity to come together to support                      States retain the authority to set in-                    Ms. PELOSI. Madam Speaker, I
                                            good, bipartisan policy, rather than                    terest rates, which varies from State to               thank the gentlewoman for her leader-
                                            doing what the Democrats would rath-                    State.                                                 ship in bringing this important legisla-
                                            er do, which is appease the woke left.                    Here is another myth: Third-party                    tion, more than one piece of legisla-
                                              So let’s stop the political theatrics                 bank partnerships will use this rule to                tion, to the floor today.
                                            and talk about what the true lender                     skirt State supervision and usury laws.                   As I rise to speak in support of re-
                                            rule actually does, not what my Demo-                   Simply not true.                                       versing the anti-consumer fake lender
                                            crat colleagues claim it does.                            The truth is, banks primarily partner                rule pushed through in the final weeks
                                              The rule specifies that when a bank                   with third parties to reach additional                 of the previous administration, I just
                                            makes a loan, the bank is the true                      markets, benefiting from a particular                  want to take a moment to put it in
                                            lender if, as of the date of origination,               expertise or technology to improve                     perspective.
                                            it is named as the lender in the loan                   their efficiency. Partnerships with                       Madam Speaker, in November, the
                                            agreement or funds the loan. That loan                  third parties do not change the bank’s                 people elected Democratic majorities
                                            would be regulated by the entity mak-                   authority or expose interest rate dif-                 in the Congress that would be for the
                                            ing the loan, funding the loan, and the                 ferentials.                                            people, fighting for the public inter-
                                            regulation would fall upon them. So                       And last, but not least, progressive                 ests, not the special interests.
                                            the consumers have Federal consumer                     activists cite the interest rate as a real                To that end, they elected majorities
                                            protection laws that would act on that                  problem with the true lender rule.                     that would reverse the damage in-
                                            loan. That is what it does.                             They are pushing a 36 percent best rate                flicted on their health and financial se-
                                              My friends that created the Con-                      cap. They have even pushed it at the                   curity by the last administration.
                                            sumer Protection Bureau, I thought                      national level. The math simply                           That mission is why the House this
                                            you wanted that, and yet you are argu-                  doesn’t back up this falsehood.                        week is passing legislation under the
                                            ing against that with this rule today.                    The true lender rule was not some                    Congressional Review Act to reverse
                                            It is pretty straightforward; it is a                   sinister plan by the previous adminis-                 three of the past President’s most egre-
                                            pretty     straightforward      law.   It               tration to trick borrowers. It was not.                gious assaults on families’ well-being.
                                            shouldn’t be political.                                 It simply was not the case. This legal                    The Congressional Review Act is one
                                              This rule also clarifies that as the                  principle was established in 1864 with                 of Congress’ most important tools to
                                            true lender of a loan, a bank holds the                 the National Bank Act. It is being un-                 reassert the power of the people’s
                                            responsibility of complying with Fed-                   dermined by an attempt at politics                     House to deliver for the people and to
                                            eral law. This eliminates the greatest                  rather than sound policy, and what we                  reclaim our authority under the Con-
                                            risk associated with abuse of rent-a-                   should support is good, bipartisan pol-                stitution, upholding the balance of
                                            charter schemes, which we agree are                     icy that provides clarity to banks and                 powers that is the foundation of our
                                            bad, and I think we could be doing                      fintechs so they can better serve our                  American democracy.
                                            something about that rather than this                   constituents and the consumers of                         With the gentlewoman’s permission,
                                            spurious argument we have today.                        America. That is it.                                   I wish to speak to the anti-consumer
                                              In October of last year, the OCC fi-                    We have a well-regulated banking                     fake lender rule, but also speak to two
                                            nalized the true lender rule that is                    system. We do. It is not perfect. We                   other issues under the Congressional
                                            being debated today. This was a second                  have States that have various laws                     Review Act this afternoon.
                                            step in a decades-long process to clar-                 that are operable in their States, but                    On the floor today is legislation,
                                            ify the bank-third-party relationship                   we also have a national system here as                 again, to reverse the anti-consumer
                                            when issuing a loan. It has been long-                  well.                                                  fake lender rule pushed through in the
                                            standing practice, but there have been                    We have worked harmoniously, not                     final weeks of the previous administra-




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                                            lawsuits, a great deal of uncertainty                   perfectly, over the last 157 years since               tion.
                                            about it, a lot of questions in par-                    we established the national banking                       This fake lender rule greenlights
                                            ticular jurisdictions around the coun-                  system. But why undermine a key prin-                  rent-a-bank schemes in which preda-
                                            try on the nature of those partnerships,                ciple of that national banking system                  tory lenders evade bank interest rate
                                            and it clarifies those partnerships in a                by spurious arguments that actually                    limits to swindle vulnerable con-
                                            rules-based regime.                                     don’t have to do with the true lender                  sumers. This is done by putting a bank



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                                            name on loan paperwork and claiming                     builds on the commitment of the Presi-                   Democrats are constantly putting
                                            that the bank, not the predatory lend-                  dent and the Democratic Congress to                    their disdain for America’s banks
                                            er, issued the loan.                                    tackle the climate crisis.                             ahead of the needs of their constitu-
                                              To take one example, in California,                     As the administration has stated, ad-                ents, and this bill is another prime ex-
                                            where the interest rate on a 2-year                     dressing methane pollution is an ur-                   ample of this unfortunate practice.
                                            $2,000 loan is capped at 25 percent, lend-              gent and essential step.                                 I firmly oppose this bill and its pre-
                                            ers can use rent-a-bank partnerships to                   Madam Speaker, with that, as Speak-                  vention of widespread financial inclu-
                                            make loans with rates up to 225 per-                    er, I am proud to be able to use the                   sion, especially for low- and moderate-
                                            cent.                                                   Speaker’s prerogative to speak beyond                  income consumers.
                                              This bipartisan resolution to end the                 the item on the floor right now.                         Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I
                                            fake lender rule is supported by many:                    I am proud to support these impor-                   yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
                                            a bipartisan coalition of 25 State attor-               tant actions to reverse the Trump dam-                 Illinois (Mr. GARCÍA), who is also the
                                            neys general; faith leaders, including                  age and to deliver results that make a                 sponsor of the House companion to this
                                            the National Latino Evangelical Coali-                  difference in the lives of hardworking                 legislation.
                                            tion, the National Association of                       American families.                                       Mr. GARCÍA of Illinois. Madam
                                            Evangelicals, the National Baptist                        I thank all of our leaders for this leg-             Speaker, I rise in strong support of S.J.
                                            Convention USA, hundreds of banking                     islation for the people: Chair BOBBY                   Res. 15, a resolution to repeal the
                                            law and consumer finance regulation                     SCOTT and Representative SUZANNE                       OCC’s so-called true lender rule.
                                            scholars, and Americans across the                      BONAMICI on the EEOC resolution; Rep-                    Earlier this year, my State, Illinois,
                                            country and across parties, urging us                   resentative CHUy Garcia for his work                   passed a law that protects our con-
                                            to support this Congressional Review                    on the true lender resolution; Rep-                    sumers from predatory, high-interest
                                            Act reversal of the anti-consumer fake                  resentative DIANA DEGETTE and Chair-                   loans. Eighteen other States have done
                                            lender rule.                                            man FRANK PALLONE, and many others,                    the same.
                                              Also today, we are considering legis-                 on the methane resolution from the                       I introduced the House version of this
                                            lation to undo the antiworker, pro-dis-                 Energy and Commerce Committee.                         resolution because the true lender rule
                                            crimination rule forced through in the                    I urge strong votes for S.J. Res. 13,                undermines laws like ours, laws that
                                            final week of the past administration.                  14, and 15.                                            keep working-class people out of cycles
                                                                                                      Coming back to the resolution on the
                                              The EEOC was established to protect                                                                          of debt they can’t pay back.
                                                                                                    floor right now, I thank the distin-                     The rule is a rubber stamp for rent-a-
                                            working people from discrimination
                                                                                                    guished chair of the Financial Services                bank schemes, where a lender can
                                            and ensure that discrimination charges
                                                                                                    Committee for her leadership in look-                  dodge State law by having a bank’s
                                            are resolved fairly. But this rule would
                                                                                                    ing out always for the consumer, for                   name on the loan paperwork. That is
                                            impose draconian new obligations that
                                                                                                    competition, for fairness, for the peo-                all. No skin in the game, no investment
                                            bias the conciliation process against
                                                                                                    ple.                                                   in our communities; just a name on the
                                            employees, toward employers; escalate
                                            the potential for retaliation, because                                    b 1345                               paperwork.
                                            retaliation claims make up half of                        Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I                          This rule doesn’t encourage innova-
                                            EEOC’s charges filed at the EEOC last                   yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from                  tion. It encourages playing games. This
                                            year; siphon off scarce EEOC resources                  Missouri (Mr. LUETKEMEYER), who is                     isn’t a partisan issue. As a matter of
                                            and saddle the EEOC with wasteful col-                  the ranking member on the Consumer                     fact, last year, 82 percent of Nebraska
                                            lateral litigation, prolonging harm to                  Protection and Financial Institutions                  voters joined States like Arkansas and
                                            workers through delays; and con-                        Subcommittee of the Financial Serv-                    South Dakota to protect their commu-
                                            travene both the Supreme Court prece-                   ices Committee, and also the ranking                   nities from unpayable debt, and this
                                            dent and Congressional intent.                          member on the Small Business Com-                      rule from the OCC provides bad actors
                                              This month, civil rights and workers’                 mittee.                                                with a new tool to ignore them.
                                            rights organizations wrote to Congress                    Mr. LUETKEMEYER. Madam Speak-                          So a broad coalition of over 400 orga-
                                            in support of S.J. Res. 13, writing: ‘‘The              er, I rise today to discuss S.J. Res. 15,              nizations—rural, urban, suburban—
                                            EEOC must be able to conduct its work                   House Democrats’ attempt to limit the                  have come together in support of this
                                            efficiently . . . to prevent and remedy                 ability of our Nation’s banks to serve                 measure, and they include consumer
                                            workplace discrimination.                               consumers by overturning the true                      advocates, labor advocates, veterans,
                                              ‘‘This mission is even more critical                  lender rule.                                           credit unions, and many other actors,
                                            in the middle of a global pandemic that                   The true lender rule was finalized by                including evangelical congregations.
                                            continues to have severe economic re-                   the OCC in 2020, in an effort to clarify                 Madam Speaker, I urge this body to
                                            percussions for women, people of color,                 who was the true lender in national                    pass this resolution and empower
                                            and other marginalized communities.                     bank third-party relationships. By pro-                working-class communities like mine
                                              ‘‘The final rule will only deepen the                 viding this clarity, these third-party                 that are targeted by predatory lenders,
                                            barriers working people face coming                     entities were able to provide financial                and voters across the country who sup-
                                            forward to report discrimination and                    services in partnership with financial                 port consumer protections.
                                            obtain justice.’’                                       institutions with the protections of                     Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I
                                              This Congressional Review Act legis-                  legal precedence.                                      yield myself such time as I may con-
                                            lation passed the Senate. Hopefully, it                   Partnering with third parties like                   sume.
                                            will pass the House today.                              fintechs gives financial institutions the                Madam Speaker, I would reference
                                              Finally, tomorrow we take up bipar-                   ability to increase access to credit, es-              my colleagues the Federal Code, the
                                            tisan legislation that paves the way to                 pecially for low- and moderate-income                  Federal Register, that actually has the
                                            restore the Obama-era protections                       consumers and small businesses.                        contents of this rule.
                                            against harmful methane pollution,                        Unfortunately, the bill before us is                   Madam Speaker, I include in the
                                            which the most recent past President                    nothing more than a politically moti-                  RECORD the actual rule that we are de-
                                            rolled back.                                            vated attempt by Democrats to make                     bating here, and I would highlight one
                                              Briefly, these safeguards are key pro-                it more expensive and difficult for                    piece in particular.
                                            tections for public health that will also               banks to serve customers, and its pas-                   ‘‘The OCC agrees that rent-a-charter
                                            make a serious difference in combating                  sage will have long-term consequences.                 schemes have no place in the Federal
                                            the climate crisis. Methane is respon-                    According to the Congressional Re-                   financial system but disagrees that
                                            sible for at least one-quarter of the                   view Act, if this legislation is passed,               this rule facilitates such schemes. As




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                                            warming of the planet. And it is 25                     the OCC will not have the ability to                   noted above, instead, this proposal
                                            times more potent than carbon dioxide                   issue a similar rule down the road. This               would help solve the problem by (1)
                                            in trapping heat in the atmosphere.                     will leave bank-fintech partnerships in                providing a clear and simple test for
                                              This resolution passed on a bipar-                    limbo with a great deal of uncertainty                 determining when a bank makes a loan
                                            tisan basis in the Senate and in the En-                regarding the loans they make and who                  and (2) emphasizing the robust super-
                                            ergy and Commerce Committee. It                         is the true lender in the relationship.                visory framework that applies to any



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                                            loan made by a bank and to all third-                   loan when the loan is originated as part of a          III. Analysis
                                            party relationships to which banks are                  lending partnership involving a bank and a               As noted in the prior section, commenters
                                            a party. As noted above, if a bank fails                third party, nor has the OCC taken regu-               raised a variety of issues for the OCC’s con-
                                                                                                    latory action to resolve this ambiguity. In            sideration. These are discussed below.
                                            to satisfy its obligations under this su-
                                                                                                    the absence of regulatory action, a growing            A. OCC’s Authority To Issue the Rule
                                            pervisory framework, the OCC will use                   body of case law has introduced divergent
                                            all the tools at its disposal, including                                                                         Some commenters argued the OCC lacks
                                                                                                    standards for resolving this issue, as dis-            the legal authority to issue the rule because
                                            its enforcement authority.’’                            cussed below. As a result of this legal uncer-         it would contravene the unambiguous mean-
                                            DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY                              tainty, stakeholders cannot reliably deter-            ing of 12 U.S.C. 85. These commenters believe
                                            Office of the Comptroller of the Currency               mine the applicability of key laws, including          that section 85 incorporates the common law
                                            12 CFR Part 7                                           the law governing the permissible interest             of usury as of 1864, which they view as re-
                                            [Docket ID OCC–2020–0026]                               that may be charged on the loan.                       quiring courts to look to the substance rath-
                                            RIN 1557–AE97                                             This final rule establishes a clear test for         er than the form of a transaction. In a simi-
                                            National Banks and Federal Savings Asso-                determining when a bank makes a loan, by               lar vein, commenters argued that section 85
                                                 ciations as Lenders                                interpreting the statutes that grant banks             incorporates all usury laws of a state, in-
                                               AGENCY: Office of the Comptroller of the             their authority to lend. Specifically, the             cluding its true lender jurisprudence. One
                                            Currency, Treasury.                                     final rule provides that a bank makes a loan           commenter also argued that the proposal
                                               ACTION: Final rule.                                  when it, as of the date of origination, (1) is         contradicts judicial and administrative
                                               SUMMARY: The Office of the Comptroller               named as the lender in the loan agreement              precedent interpreting sections 85 and 86.
                                            of the Currency (OCC) is issuing this final             or (2) funds the loan.                                   The OCC disagrees. The rule interprets
                                            rule to determine when a national bank or                                                                      statutes that authorize banks to lend—12
                                                                                                    II. Overview of Comments
                                            Federal savings association (bank) makes a                                                                     U.S.C. 24, 371, and 1464(c)—and clarifies how
                                            loan and is the ‘‘true lender,’’ including in             The OCC received approximately 4,000 com-            to determine when a bank exercises this
                                            the context of a partnership between a bank             ments on the proposal, the vast majority of            lending authority. The OCC has clear author-
                                            and a third party, such as a marketplace                which were from individuals using a version            ity to reasonably interpret these statutes,
                                            lender. Under this rule, a bank makes a loan            of one of three short form letters to express          which do not specifically address when a
                                            if, as of the date of origination, it is named          opposition to the proposal. Other com-                 bank makes a loan.
                                            as the lender in the loan agreement or funds            menters included banks, nonbank lenders,                 Banks do not obtain their lending author-
                                            the loan.                                               industry trade associations, community                 ity from section 85 or 12 U.S.C. 1463(g). Nor
                                               DATES: The final rule is effective on De-            groups, academics, state government rep-               are these statutes the authority the OCC is
                                            cember 29, 2020.                                        resentatives, and members of Congress.                 relying on to issue this rule. The proposal
                                            SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:                                Commenters supporting the proposal stat-             referenced sections 85 and 1463(g) in the regu-
                                            I. Background                                           ed that the judicial true lender doctrine has          latory text to ensure that interested parties
                                                                                                    led to divergent standards and uncertainty             understand the consequences of its interpre-
                                               Lending partnerships between national
                                                                                                    concerning the legitimacy of lending part-             tation of sections 24, 371, and 1464(c), includ-
                                            banks or Federal savings associations
                                                                                                    nerships between banks and third parties.              ing that this rulemaking operates together
                                            (banks) and third parties play a critical role
                                                                                                    They also stated that, by removing the un-             with the OCC’s recently finalized ‘Madden-
                                            in our financial system. These partnerships
                                                                                                    certainty, the OCC would help ensure that              fix’ rulemaking. When a bank makes a loan
                                            expand access to credit and provide an ave-
                                                                                                    banks have the confidence to enter into                pursuant to the test established in this regu-
                                            nue for banks to remain competitive as the
                                                                                                    these lending relationships, which provide             lation, the bank may subsequently sell, as-
                                            financial sector evolves. Through these part-
                                                                                                    affordable credit to consumers on more fa-             sign, or otherwise transfer the loan without
                                            nerships, banks often leverage technology
                                                                                                    vorable terms than the alternatives, such as           affecting the permissible interest term,
                                            developed by innovative third parties that                                                                     which is determined by reference to state
                                            helps to reach a wider array of customers.              pawn shops or payday lenders, to which un-
                                                                                                    derserved communities often turn. Sup-                 law.
                                            However, there is often uncertainty about                                                                        Other commenters questioned the OCC’s
                                            how to determine which entity is making the             porting commenters also observed that the
                                                                                                    proposal would enhance a bank’s safety and             authority on different grounds. Some as-
                                            loans and, therefore, the laws that apply to                                                                   serted the OCC lacks authority to (1) exempt
                                            these loans. This uncertainty may discour-              soundness by facilitating its ability to sell
                                                                                                    loans. These commenters also noted that the            nonbanks from compliance with state law or
                                            age banks from entering into lending part-                                                                     (2) preempt state laws that determine wheth-
                                            nerships, which, in turn, may limit competi-            proposal (1) makes clear that the OCC will
                                                                                                    hold banks accountable for products with un-           er a loan is made by a nonbank lender. One
                                            tion, restrict access to affordable credit, and                                                                commenter also asserted that the proposal is
                                            chill the innovation that can result from               fair, deceptive, abusive, or misleading fea-
                                                                                                    tures that are offered as part of a relation-          an attempt by the OCC to interpret state
                                            these relationships. Through this rule-                                                                        law. A commenter further argued that the
                                            making, the Office of the Comptroller of the            ship and (2) is consistent with the OCC’s
                                                                                                    statutory mission to ensure that banks pro-            OCC’s statutory interpretation is not reason-
                                            Currency (OCC) is providing the legal cer-                                                                     able, including because the proposal (1)
                                            tainty necessary for banks to partner con-              vide fair access to financial services.
                                                                                                                                                           would allow nonbanks to enjoy the benefits
                                            fidently with other market participants and               Commenters opposing the proposal stated
                                                                                                                                                           of federal preemption without submitting to
                                            meet the credit needs of their customers.               that it would facilitate so-called rent-a-char-
                                                                                                                                                           any regulatory oversight and (2) violates the
                                               However, the OCC understands that there              ter schemes, which would result in increased
                                                                                                                                                           presumption against preemption, especially
                                            is concern that its rulemaking facilitates in-          predatory lending and disproportionately
                                                                                                                                                           in an area of historical state police powers
                                            appropriate       ‘rent-a-charter’      lending         impact marginalized communities. Other op-             like consumer protection.
                                            schemes—arrangements in which a bank re-                posing commenters stated that the proposal               This rulemaking does not assert authority
                                            ceives a fee to ‘rent’ its charter and unique           is an attempt by the OCC to improperly reg-            over nonbanks, preempt state laws applica-
                                            legal status to a third party. These schemes            ulate nonbank lenders, a role they consider            ble to nonbank lenders, or interpret state
                                            are designed to enable the third party to               to be reserved exclusively to the states. Op-          law. It interprets federal banking law and
                                            evade state and local laws, including some              posing commenters also asserted that the               has no direct applicability to any nonbank
                                            state consumer protection laws, and to allow            OCC did not have sufficient legal authority            entity or activity. Rather, in identifying the
                                            the bank to disclaim any compliance respon-             to issue the proposal and that the proposal            true lender, the rule pinpoints key elements
                                            sibility for the loans. These arrangements              violated the Administrative Procedure Act              of the statutory, regulatory, and supervisory
                                            have absolutely no place in the federal bank-           (APA) and 12 U.S.C. 25b.                               framework applicable to the loan in ques-
                                            ing system and are addressed by this rule-                Both supporting and opposing commenters              tion. As noted in the proposal, if a nonbank
                                            making, which holds banks accountable for               recommended changes. These recommenda-                 partner is the true lender, the relevant state
                                            all loans they make, including those made in            tions included (1) adopting a test that re-            (and not OCC) would regulate the lending ac-
                                            the context of marketplace lending partner-             quires the true lender to have a predominant           tivity, and the OCC would assess the bank’s
                                            ships or other loan sale arrangements.                  economic interest in the loan; (2) providing           third-party risk management in connection
                                               On July 22, 2020, the OCC published a no-            additional ‘‘safe harbor’’ requirements to en-         with the relationship itself.
                                            tice of proposed rulemaking (proposal or                hance consumer protections (e.g., interest               Furthermore, because commenters ex-
                                            NPR) to determine when a bank makes a                   rate caps); (3) clarifying that certain tradi-         pressed concern that this rule would under-
                                            loan. Under the proposal, a bank made a loan            tional bank lending activities do not fall             mine state usury caps, it is also important
                                            if, as of the date of origination, it (1) was           under the funding prong of the rule (e.g., in-         to emphasize that sections 85 and 1463(g) pro-
                                            named as the lender in the loan agreement               direct auto lending and mortgage warehouse             vide a choice of law framework for deter-




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                                            or (2) funded the loan.                                 lending); (4) providing additional details on          mining which state’s law applies to bank
                                               As the proposal explained, federal law au-           how the OCC would supervise these relation-            loans and, in this way, incorporate, rather
                                            thorizes banks to enter into contracts, to              ships; and (5) stating that the rule will not          than eliminate, state law. These statutes re-
                                            make loans, and to subsequently transfer                displace certain federal consumer protection           quire that a bank refer to, and comply with,
                                            these loans and assign the loan contracts.              laws and regulations.                                  the usury cap established by the laws of the
                                            The statutory framework, however, does not                The comments are addressed in greater de-            state where the bank is located. Thus, dis-
                                            specifically address which entity makes a               tail below.                                            parities between the usury caps applicable to




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                                            particular bank loans result primarily from             capricious and, therefore, in violation of the         the funding prong does not include certain
                                            differences in the state laws that impose               APA. Some commenters argued that the pro-              lending or financing arrangements such as
                                            these caps, not from an interpretation that             posal lacks an evidentiary basis, either en-           warehouse lending, indirect auto lending
                                            section 85 or 1463(g) preempt state law.                tirely or with respect to certain assertions,          (through bank purchases of retail install-
                                              A commenter also asserted that the OCC’s              such as the existence of legal uncertainty.            ment contracts (RICs)), loan syndication,
                                            interpretation is not reasonable because it             The OCC disagrees. The APA’s arbitrary and             and other structured finance.
                                            (1) does not solve the problem it claims to             capricious standard requires an agency to                 These commenters are correct that the
                                            remedy, arguing that the proposal itself is             make rational and informed decisions based             funding prong of the proposal generally does
                                            unclear and requires banks to undertake a               on the information before it. Furthermore,             not include these types of arrangements:
                                            fact-specific analysis and (2) departs from             the standard does not require the OCC to de-           They do not involve a bank funding a loan at
                                            federal cases holding that state true lender            velop or cite empirical or other data to sup-          the time of origination. For example, when a
                                            law applies to lending relationships between            port its rule or wait for problems to mate-            bank purchases a RIC from an auto dealer, as
                                            banks and nonbanks.                                     rialize before acting. Instead, the OCC may            is often the case with indirect auto lending,
                                              The OCC believes that this rule provides a            rely on its expertise to address the problems          the bank does not ‘‘fund’’ the loan. When a
                                            simple, bright-line test to determine when a            that may arise.                                        bank provides a warehouse loan to a third
                                            bank has made a loan and, therefore, is the                The OCC has decided to issue this rule to           party that subsequently draws on that ware-
                                            true lender in a lending relationship. The              resolve the effects of legal uncertainty on            house loan to lend to other borrowers, the
                                            only required factual analysis is whether the           banks and their third-party relationships. In          bank is not funding the loans to these other
                                            bank is named as the lender or funds the                this case, the OCC’s views are informed by             borrowers. In contrast, and as noted in the
                                            loan. The OCC has evaluated various stand-              courts’ divergent true lender tests and the            proposal, the bank is the true lender in a
                                            ards established by courts and has deter-               resulting lack of predictability faced by              table funding arrangement when the bank
                                            mined that a clear, predictable, and easily             stakeholders. While the OCC understands its            funds the loan at origination.
                                            administrable test is preferable. This test             rule may not resolve all legal uncertainty                Another commenter recommended that the
                                            will provide legal certainty, and the OCC’s             for every loan, this is not a prerequisite for         OCC consider the ‘‘safe harbor’’ established
                                            robust supervisory framework effectively                the agency to take this narrowly tailored ac-          in the recent settlement between the Colo-
                                            targets predatory lending, achieving the                tion. Taking these considerations into ac-             rado Attorney General and several financial
                                            same goal as a more complex true lender                 count, the OCC has made a rational and in-             institutions and fintech lenders. While we
                                            test.                                                   formed decision to issue this rule.                    are aware of this settlement, the OCC be-
                                              Several commenters also asserted that the                Commenters also argued that the OCC’s ac-           lieves that our approach achieves the goal of
                                            proposal contravenes 12 U.S.C. 1, which                 tions violate the APA because the agency               legal certainty while providing the necessary
                                            charges the OCC with ensuring that banks                has not given notice of its intention to re-           safeguards.
                                            treat customers fairly. One commenter also              verse an existing policy or provided the fac-             One commenter requested that the OCC ex-
                                            argued that the proposal is inconsistent with           tual, legal, and policy reasons for doing so.          pressly state in the final rule that the rule-
                                            the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) be-                Specifically, these commenters referenced              making is not intended to displace or alter
                                            cause it encourages predatory lending. As               the OCC’s longstanding policy prohibiting              other regulatory regimes, including those
                                            the OCC explained in the proposal, the rule’s           banks from entering into rent-a-charter                that address consumer protection. Another
                                            purpose is to provide legal certainty to ex-            schemes. This rulemaking does not reverse              commenter requested that the OCC clarify
                                            pand access to credit, a goal that is entirely          the OCC’s position. The OCC’s longstanding             how account information in true lender ar-
                                            consistent with the agency’s statutory                  and unwavering opposition to predatory                 rangements should be reported to consumer
                                            charge to ensure fair treatment of customers            lending, including but not limited to preda-           reporting agencies under the Fair Credit Re-
                                            and banks’ statutory obligation to serve the            tory lending as part of a third-party rela-            porting Act. As the preamble to the proposal
                                            convenience and needs of their communities.             tionship, remains intact and strong. In fact,          noted, the OCC’s rule does not affect the ap-
                                            B. 12 U.S.C. 25b                                        this rulemaking would solve the rent-a-char-           plication of any federal consumer financial
                                              Several commenters asserted that the                  ter issues raised and ensure that banks do             laws, including, but not limited to, the
                                            agency should have complied with 12 U.S.C.              not participate in those arrangements. As              meaning of the terms (1) ‘‘creditor’’ in the
                                            25b, which applies when the OCC issues a reg-           noted in the proposal, the OCC’s statutes and          Truth in Lending Act (15 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)
                                            ulation or order that preempts a state con-             regulations, enforceable guidelines, guid-             and Regulation Z (12 CFR part 1026) and (2)
                                            sumer financial law. Some of these com-                 ance, and enforcement authority provide ro-            ‘‘lender’’ in Regulation X (12 CFR part 1024),
                                            menters argued that the proposal fails to               bust and effective safeguards against preda-           which implements the Real Estate Settle-
                                            meet the preemption standard articulated in             tory lending when a bank exercises its lend-           ment Procedures Act of 1974 (12 U.S.C. 2601 et
                                            Barnett Bank of Marion County, N.A. v. Nel-             ing authority. This rule does not alter this           seq.). Similarly, the OCC’s rule does not af-
                                            son, Florida Insurance Commissioner, et al.             framework but rather reinforces its impor-             fect the applicability of the Home Mortgage
                                            (Barnett), as incorporated into section 25b.            tance by clarifying that it applies to every           Disclosure Act (12 U.S.C. 2801 et seq.), the
                                            Commenters also argued that (1) section                 loan a bank makes and by providing a simple            Equal Credit Opportunity Act (15 U.S.C. 1691
                                            25b(f) does not exempt the OCC’s proposal               test to identify precisely when a bank has             et seq.), the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15
                                            from the requirements of section 25b because            made a loan. If a bank fails to satisfy its            U.S.C. 1681 et seq.), or their implementing
                                            the rule is not limited to banks charging in-           compliance obligations, the OCC will not               regulations (Regulation C (12 CFR part 1003),
                                            terest and (2) the proposal undermines or               hesitate to use its enforcement authority              Regulation B (12 CFR part 1002), and Regula-
                                            contravenes section 25b(h) because it extends           consistent with its longstanding policy and            tion V (12 CFR part 1022)), respectively. The
                                            preemptive treatment to subsidiaries, affili-           practice.                                              OCC recommends that commenters direct
                                            ates, and agents of banks.                                 Furthermore, the final rule does not                questions regarding these statutes and regu-
                                              The OCC disagrees: The requirements of                change the OCC’s expectation that all banks            lations to the Consumer Financial Protec-
                                            section 25b are inapplicable to this rule-              establish and maintain prudent credit under-           tion Bureau.
                                            making. Section 25b applies when the Comp-              writing practices and comply with applicable              Some commenters stated that the two
                                            troller determines, on a case-by-case basis,            law, even when they partner with third par-            prongs in the proposal’s test would produce
                                            that a state consumer financial law is pre-             ties. These expectations were in place before          contradictory and absurd results. For exam-
                                            empted pursuant to the standard for conflict            the OCC issued its proposal and will remain            ple, several commenters noted that, under
                                            preemption established by the Supreme                   in place after the final rule takes effect. For        the proposal, two banks could be the true
                                            Court in Barnett, i.e., when the Comptroller            these reasons, the final rule does not rep-            lender (e.g., at origination, one bank is
                                            makes a preemption determination. This                  resent a change in OCC policy.                         named as the lender on the loan agreement
                                            rulemaking does not preempt a state con-                D. Comments on the Proposed Regulatory                 and another bank funds the loan). In re-
                                            sumer financial law but rather interprets a                  Text                                              sponse to this comment, we have amended
                                            bank’s federal authority to lend. Further-                                                                     the regulatory text to provide that where
                                                                                                       As noted previously, the OCC’s proposed
                                            more, commenters arguing that section                                                                          one bank is named as the lender in the loan
                                                                                                    regulatory text set out a test for deter-
                                            25b(f) (which addresses section 85) does not                                                                   agreement and another bank funds the loan,
                                                                                                    mining when a bank has made a loan for pur-
                                            exempt this rulemaking from the procedures                                                                     the bank named as the lender in the loan
                                                                                                    poses of 12 U.S.C. 24, 85, 371, 1463(g), and
                                            in section 25b and that sections 25b(b)(2), (e),                                                               agreement makes the loan. This approach
                                                                                                    1464(c). Under this test, a bank made a loan
                                            and (h)(2) (which address bank subsidiaries,                                                                   will provide additional clarity and allow
                                                                                                    if, as of the date of origination, it was named
                                            affiliates, and agents) preclude the agency                                                                    stakeholders, including borrowers, to easily
                                                                                                    as the lender in the loan agreement or fund-
                                            from issuing this rule are mistaken; this                                                                      identify the bank that makes the loan. Oth-
                                                                                                    ed the loan.
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                                                                                                       Some commenters supported the rule with-
                                            tion 85, nor does it address the applicability          out change, stating that the proposal pro-             as proposed.
                                            of state law to bank subsidiaries, affiliates,          vided the clarity needed to determine which            E. Rent-a-Charter Concerns; Supervisory Ex-
                                            or agents.                                              entity is the true lender in a lending rela-                pectations
                                            C. Administrative Procedure Act                         tionship. Other commenters supported the                  The OCC received multiple comments ex-
                                              Several commenters asserted that, for var-            proposal as a general matter but suggested             pressing concern that the proposal would fa-
                                            ious reasons, the proposal is arbitrary and             specific changes, including clarifying that            cilitate rent-a-charter relationships and




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                                            thereby enable nonbank lenders to engage in             ‘‘unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or          allowing banks to enter into rent-a-charter
                                            predatory or otherwise abusive lending prac-            affecting commerce’’ are unlawful. The                 schemes, the final rule will ensure that
                                            tices.   These     commenters     noted    that         Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Con-                 banks understand that the OCC will continue
                                            nonbanks are generally not subject to the               sumer Protection Act also prohibits unfair,            to hold banks accountable for their lending
                                            type of prudential supervision that applies to          deceptive, or ‘‘abusive’’ acts or practices.           activities.
                                            banks and that usury caps are the most ef-              The OCC has taken a number of public en-               IV. Regulatory Analyses
                                            fective method to curb predatory lending by             forcement actions against banks for vio-
                                                                                                                                                             Paperwork Reduction Act. In accordance
                                            nonbanks. They argued that the OCC’s rule               lating section 5 of the FTC Act and will con-
                                                                                                                                                           with the requirements of the Paperwork Re-
                                            would effectively nullify these caps and fa-            tinue to exercise its enforcement authority
                                                                                                                                                           duction Act of 1995 (PRA), 44 U.S.C. 3501 et
                                            cilitate the expansion of predatory lending.            to address unlawful actions.
                                              As explained above, in a rent-a-charter ar-              Banks also are subject to federal fair lend-        seq., the OCC may not conduct or sponsor,
                                            rangement, a lender receives a fee to rent              ing laws and may not engage in unlawful dis-           and respondents are not required to respond
                                            out its charter and unique legal status to              crimination, such as ‘‘steering’’ a borrower           to, an information collection unless it dis-
                                            originate loans on behalf of a third party, en-         to a higher cost loan on the basis of the bor-         plays a currently valid Office of Management
                                            abling the third party to evade state and               rower’s race, national origin, age, or gender.         and Budget (OMB) control number. The OCC
                                            local laws, such as usury caps and other con-           If a bank engages in any unlawful discrimi-            has reviewed the final rule and determined
                                            sumer protection laws. At the same time,                natory practices, the OCC will take appro-             that it will not introduce any new or revise
                                            the lender disclaims any responsibility for             priate action under the federal fair lending           any existing collection of information pursu-
                                            these loans. As a result of these arrange-              laws. Further, under the CRA regulations,              ant to the PRA. Therefore, no submission
                                            ments, consumers can find themselves in                 CRA-related lending practices that violate             will be made to OMB for review.
                                            debt to an unscrupulous nonbank lender that             federal fair lending laws, the FTC Act, or               Regulatory Flexibility Act. The Regu-
                                            is subject to very little or no prudential su-          Home Ownership and Equity Protection Act,              latory Flexibility Act (RFA), 5 U.S.C. 601 et
                                            pervision on a loan at an interest rate gross-          or that evidence other discriminatory or ille-         seq., requires an agency, in connection with
                                            ly in excess of the state usury cap.                    gal credit practices, can adversely affect a           a final rule, to prepare a Final Regulatory
                                              The OCC agrees that rent-a-charter                    bank’s CRA performance rating.                         Flexibility Analysis describing the impact of
                                            schemes have no place in the federal finan-                The OCC has also taken significant steps            the rule on small entities (defined by the
                                            cial system but disagrees that this rule fa-            to eliminate predatory, unfair, or deceptive           Small Business Administration (SBA) for
                                            cilitates such schemes. As noted above, in-             practices in the federal banking system, rec-          purposes of the RFA to include commercial
                                            stead, this proposal would help solve the               ognizing that ‘‘[s]uch practices are incon-            banks and savings institutions with total as-
                                            problem by (1) providing a clear and simple             sistent with important national objectives,            sets of $600 million or less and trust compa-
                                            test for determining when a bank makes a                including the goals of fair access to credit,          nies with total assets of $41.5 million or less)
                                            loan and (2) emphasizing the robust super-              community development, and stable home-                or to certify that the final rule would not
                                            visory framework that applies to any loan               ownership by the broadest spectrum of                  have a significant economic impact on a sub-
                                            made by a bank and to all third-party rela-             America.’’ To address these concerns, the              stantial number of small entities.
                                            tionships to which banks are a party. As                OCC requires banks engaged in lending to                 The OCC currently supervises approxi-
                                            noted above, if a bank fails to satisfy its ob-         take into account the borrower’s ability to            mately 745 small entities. The OCC expects
                                            ligations under this supervisory framework,             repay the loan according to its terms. In the          that all of these small entities would be im-
                                            the OCC will use all the tools at its disposal,         OCC’s experience, ‘‘a departure from funda-            pacted by the rule. While this final rule
                                            including its enforcement authority.                    mental principles of loan underwriting gen-            could affect how banks structure their cur-
                                              Although the proposal discussed this su-              erally forms the basis of abusive lending:             rent or future third-party relationships as
                                            pervisory framework in detail, it bears re-             Lending without a determination that a bor-            well as the amount of loans originated by
                                            peating because of its importance to this               rower can reasonably be expected to repay              banks, the OCC believes the costs associated
                                            rulemaking. Every bank is responsible for es-           the loan from resources other than the col-            with any administrative changes in bank
                                            tablishing and maintaining prudent credit               lateral securing the loan, and relying instead         lending policies and procedures would be de
                                            underwriting practices that: (1) Are commen-            on the foreclosure value of the borrower’s             minimis. Banks already have systems, poli-
                                            surate with the types of loans the bank will            collateral to recover principal, interest, and         cies, and procedures in place for issuing
                                            make and consider the terms and conditions              fees.’’                                                loans when third parties are involved. It
                                            under which they will be made; (2) consider                Additionally, the OCC has cautioned banks           takes significantly less time to amend exist-
                                            the nature of the markets in which the loans            about lending activities that may be consid-           ing policies than to create them, and the
                                            will be made; (3) provide for consideration,            ered predatory, unfair, or deceptive, noting           OCC does not expect any needed adjustments
                                            prior to credit commitment, of the bor-                 that many such lending practices are unlaw-            will involve an extraordinary demand on a
                                            rower’s overall financial condition and re-             ful under existing federal laws and regula-            bank’s human resources. In addition, any
                                            sources, the financial responsibility of any            tions or otherwise present significant safety,         costs would likely be absorbed as ongoing ad-
                                            guarantor, the nature and value of any un-              soundness, or other risks. These practices in-         ministrative expenses. Therefore, the OCC
                                            derlying collateral, and the borrower’s char-           clude those that target prospective bor-               certifies that this rule will not have a sig-
                                            acter and willingness to repay as agreed; (4)           rowers who cannot afford credit on the terms           nificant economic impact on a substantial
                                            establish a system of independent, ongoing              being offered, provide inadequate disclosures          number of small entities. Accordingly, a
                                            credit review and appropriate communica-                of the true costs and risks of transactions,           Final Regulatory Flexibility Analysis is not
                                            tion to management and to the board of di-              involve loans with high fees and frequent re-          required.
                                            rectors; (5) take adequate account of con-              newals, or constitute loan ‘‘flipping’’ (fre-            Unfunded Mandates Reform Act. Con-
                                            centration of credit risk; and (6) are appro-           quent re-financings that result in little or no        sistent with the Unfunded Mandates Reform
                                            priate to the size of the institution and the           economic benefit to the borrower that are              Act of 1995 (UMRA), 2 U.S.C. 1532, the OCC
                                            nature and scope of its activities. Moreover,           undertaken with the primary or sole objec-             considers whether a final rule includes a fed-
                                            every bank is expected to have loan docu-               tive of generating additional fees). Policies          eral mandate that may result in the expendi-
                                            mentation practices that: (1) Enable the in-            and procedures should also be designed to en-          ture by state, local, and tribal governments,
                                            stitution to make an informed lending deci-             sure clear and transparent disclosure of the           in the aggregate, or by the private sector, of
                                            sion and assess risk, as necessary, on an on-           terms of the loan, including relative costs,           $100 million adjusted for inflation (currently
                                            going basis; (2) identify the purpose of a loan         risks, and benefits of the loan transaction,           $157 million) in any one year. The final rule
                                            and the source of repayment and assess the              which helps to mitigate the risk that a                does not impose new mandates. Therefore,
                                            ability of the borrower to repay the indebt-            transaction could be unfair or deceptive. The          the OCC concludes that implementation of
                                            edness in a timely manner; (3) ensure that              NPR also highlighted specific questions that           the final rule would not result in an expendi-
                                            any claim against a borrower is legally en-             the OCC evaluates as part of its robust su-            ture of $157 million or more annually by
                                            forceable; (4) demonstrate appropriate ad-              pervision of banks’ lending relationships.             state, local, and tribal governments, or by
                                            ministration and monitoring of a loan; and                 In addition to this framework targeted at           the private sector.
                                            (5) take account of the size and complexity             banks’ lending activities, the OCC has issued            Riegle Community Development and Regu-
                                            of a loan. Every bank should also have ap-              comprehensive guidance on third-party risk             latory Improvement Act. Pursuant to sec-
                                            propriate internal controls and information             management. These standards apply to any               tion 302(a) of the Riegle Community Devel-
                                            systems to assess and manage the risks asso-            relationship between a bank and a third                opment and Regulatory Improvement Act of
                                            ciated with its lending activities, including           party, including lending relationships, re-            1994 (RCDRIA), 12 U.S.C. 4802(a), in deter-
                                            those that provide for monitoring adherence             gardless of which entity is the true lender.           mining the effective date and administrative
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                                            applicable laws and regulations, as well as             banks to institute appropriate safeguards to           that impose additional reporting, disclosure,
                                            internal audit systems.                                 manage the risks associated with their third-          or other requirements on insured depository
                                              In addition, a bank’s lending must comply             party relationships.                                   institutions, the OCC must consider, con-
                                            with all applicable laws and regulations, in-              Under the final rule, this robust super-            sistent with principles of safety and sound-
                                            cluding federal consumer protection laws.               visory framework will continue to apply to             ness and the public interest, any administra-
                                            For example, section 5 of the Federal Trade             banks that are the true lender in a lending            tive burdens that such regulations would
                                            Commission Act (FTC Act) provides that                  relationship with a third party. Rather than           place on depository institutions, including




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                                            small depository institutions, and customers            by taking away the legal principle by                     Ms. TLAIB. Madam Speaker, we
                                            of depository institutions, as well as the ben-         which a bank can make a loan. That is                  know it is expensive to be poor in our
                                            efits of such regulations. In addition, section         what this rule does, and that is the ab-               country; that we live in a country with
                                            302(b) of RCDRIA, 12 U.S.C. 4802(b), requires
                                                                                                    surdity of this debate. That is why I                  a system that continues to put profit
                                            new regulations and amendments to regula-
                                            tions that impose additional reporting, dis-            oppose this attempt on the floor today.                before our people, and it must stop.
                                            closures, or other new requirements on in-                 Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to                    In my home State of Michigan, com-
                                            sured depository institutions generally to              the gentleman from Georgia (Mr.                        munities that are more than a quarter
                                            take effect on the first day of a calendar              LOUDERMILK), my colleague and friend.                  Black and Latino have 50 percent more
                                            quarter that begins on or after the date on                Mr. LOUDERMILK. Madam Speaker,                      payday lenders than anywhere else in
                                            which the regulations are published in final            I thank my friend and colleague from                   the State. These lenders target our
                                            form. This final rule imposes no additional             North Carolina for managing the oppo-                  communities, the most financially vul-
                                            reporting, disclosure, or other requirements            sition to this.                                        nerable communities. Payday lenders
                                            on insured depository institutions, and                                                                        in Michigan are 62 percent more com-
                                                                                                       Look, it is simple. The reason we are
                                            therefore, section 302 is not applicable to
                                                                                                    here today is to debate the Democrats’                 mon in low-income Census tracts com-
                                            this rule.
                                               Congressional Review Act. For purposes of            latest episode in their anti-financial                 pared to statewide average.
                                            the Congressional Review Act (CRA), 5                   technology agenda, but also their rush                    That is what folks mean when they
                                            U.S.C. 801 et seq., the Office of Information           to undo any policy of the previous ad-                 say that we need to abolish structural
                                            and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) of the OMB                ministration, whether it was good or                   racism in our country.
                                            determines whether a final rule is a ‘‘major            bad.                                                      You cannot justify loans of 100 per-
                                            rule,’’ as that term is defined at 5 U.S.C.                Now, here are the facts: More than 30               cent APR or higher as providing access
                                            804(2). OIRA has determined that this final                                                                    to credit when they trap borrowers in
                                            rule is not a major rule. As required by the
                                                                                                    percent of adults are unbanked or
                                                                                                    underbanked, 40 percent do not have                    destructive cycles of debt and ruin
                                            CRA, the OCC will submit the final rule and                                                                    their credit. World Business Lenders
                                            other appropriate reports to Congress and               enough savings to cover a $400 emer-
                                            the Government Accountability Office for re-            gency expense, 42 percent have a                       offered loans of upwards of 268 percent
                                            view.                                                   subprime credit score and are rejected                 of APR, despite the fact that its rent-
                                               Administrative Procedure Act. The APA, 5             for bank loans at a rate four times                    a-bank partner was regulated by the
                                            U.S.C. 551 et seq., generally requires that a           higher than those with prime credit.                   OCC. They found a way around the
                                            final rule be published in the Federal Reg-
                                                                                                       Now, fintech has been instrumental                  rules, and that is unacceptable.
                                            ister not less than 30 days before its effective                                                                  OCC’s rules leave States like our
                                            date. This final rule will be effective 60 days         in expanding access to credit for con-
                                                                                                                                                           State of Michigan no ability to enforce
                                            after publication in the Federal Register,              sumers who have little or no credit his-
                                                                                                                                                           their own State rate caps, giving pred-
                                            which meets the APA’s effective date re-                tory. Online lending has grown to $90
                                                                                                                                                           atory lenders free rein to exploit our
                                            quirement.                                              billion a year.
                                                                                                                                                           neighbors with outrageous APRs.
                                            List of Subjects in 12 CFR Part 7                          So what do consumers typically use
                                                                                                                                                              Repealing the true lender rule is the
                                               Computer technology, Credit, Derivatives,            these loans to pay for?                                first step toward protecting borrowers
                                            Federal savings associations, Insurance, In-               Funerals, weddings, car repairs, and
                                                                                                                                                           from predatory lenders, and I am proud
                                            vestments, Metals, National banks, Report-              home improvement.
                                            ing and recordkeeping requirements, Securi-                                                                    to support it.
                                                                                                       Fintech is particularly important for                  Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I
                                            ties, Security bonds.                                   minorities. In fact, fintechs were the
                                            Office of the Comptroller of the Currency
                                                                                                                                                           yield 11⁄2 minutes to the gentleman
                                                                                                    top PPP lenders to Black-owned busi-                   from Utah (Mr. MOORE), a great new
                                               For the reasons set out in the preamble,             nesses and Hispanic-owned businesses
                                            the OCC amends 12 CFR part 7 as follows.                                                                       Member of the Congress.
                                                                                                    during the pandemic.                                      Mr. MOORE of Utah. Madam Speak-
                                            PART 7—ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS                           But there is an issue that has caused               er, I rise today to speak in opposition
                                               1. The authority citation for part 7 con-            difficulty when banks and fintech com-
                                            tinues to read as follows:                                                                                     to the CRA before us.
                                                                                                    panies partner to make loans, and that                    Innovation in our financial industry
                                               Authority: 12 U.S.C. 1 et seq., 25b, 29, 71,
                                            71a, 92, 92a, 93, 93a, 95(b)(1), 371, 371d, 481, 484,
                                                                                                    is the question of which entity is con-                lifts Americans across all levels of the
                                            1463, 1464, 1465, 1818, 1828(m) and 5412(b)(2)(B).      sidered the true lender. Until recently,               socioeconomic spectrum. A great ex-
                                               2. Add § 7.1031 to read as follows:                  this question was attempted to be set-                 ample of this has been the emergence
                                            § 7.1031 National banks and Federal savings             tled in a series of confusing and con-                 of the fintech industry, which has
                                                  associations as lenders.                          flicting lawsuits. The courts are di-                  helped more Americans access secure,
                                               (a) For purposes of this section, bank               vided on it. But, last year, the OCC fi-               affordable credit.
                                            means a national bank or a Federal savings              nalized a rule to provide much-needed                     Unfortunately, government regula-
                                            association.                                            certainty. It is no surprise that the or-              tion has stymied innovation as regu-
                                               (b) For purposes of sections 5136 and 5197 of        ganizations calling for the rule to be                 latory uncertainties have imposed arti-
                                            the Revised Statutes (12 U.S.C. 24 and 12
                                                                                                    overturned are the so-called consumer                  ficial barriers to our creativity. Recent
                                            U.S.C. 85), section 24 of the Federal Reserve
                                            Act (12 U.S.C. 371), and sections 4(g) and 5(c)         groups that, for the most part, are                    court rulings have only exacerbated
                                            of the Home Owners’ Loan Act (12 U.S.C.                 funded by trial lawyers.                               this uncertainty by creating confusion
                                            1463(g) and 12 U.S.C. 1464(c)), a bank makes a             The Democrats are attempting to                     about who the true lender of a loan is
                                            loan when the bank, as of the date of origi-            overturn this rule because some imagi-                 when a bank works with a third party.
                                            nation:                                                 nary lenders could rent a bank charter                    In 2020, the Office of the Comptroller
                                               (1) Is named as the lender in the loan               to engage in predatory lending, but as                 sought to clarify this uncertainty by
                                            agreement; or                                           the ranking member has just stated,
                                               (2) Funds the loan.
                                                                                                                                                           finalizing the true lender rule. This
                                               (c) If, as of the date of origination, one           that is clearly prohibited in the exist-               rule allowed our local community and
                                            bank is named as the lender in the loan                 ing rule. This resolution is devastating               regional banks to provide expanded ac-
                                            agreement for a loan and another bank funds             to minority consumers and businesses,                  cess to banking services and lower the
                                            that loan, the bank that is named as the                those with subprime credit, and the                    cost of banking to consumers across
                                            lender in the loan agreement makes the                  unbanked.                                              the Nation. It is that simple.
                                            loan.                                                      Instead of giving those people op-                     Commonsense reforms that help
                                            Brian P. Brooks,
                                            Acting Comptroller of the Currency.
                                                                                                    tions, this resolution would direct                    banks and the fintech industry do busi-
                                            [FR Doc. 2020–24134 Filed 10–29–20; 8:45 am]            them to payday lenders, or in States                   ness, in turn, make life easier for fami-
                                            BILLING CODE 4810–33–P                                  like Georgia where payday lending is                   lies, individuals, and businesses. Unfor-
                                              Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, ad-                       illegal, they will have no access to                   tunately, my Democrat colleagues are
                                            ditionally, I would highlight for you                   credit.                                                seeking to roll this rule back.




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                                            that the outline here and the argu-                        Madam Speaker, I urge opposition to                    Nullifying the rule will decrease
                                            ments by my colleagues on the other                     this disastrous resolution.                            credit accessibility for underserved
                                            side of the aisle really strikes at the                    Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I                        communities, hurt community banks’
                                            nature of national banking.                             yield 2 minutes to the distinguished                   ability to utilize new technologies, and
                                              So just repeal the National Banking                   gentlewoman from Michigan (Ms.                         dissuade innovation in the financial
                                            Act rather than trying to undermine it                  TLAIB).                                                services sector.



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                                              Madam Speaker, I oppose S.J. Res.                       Rather than embrace innovation to                      Legal and regulatory certainty facilitates
                                            15, and I encourage my colleagues to                    deliver cost savings to their customers,               access to responsible credit and clarifies re-
                                            vote ‘‘no.’’                                            many of whom have trouble accessing                    sponsibility and accountability in lending
                                                                                                                                                           involving third-party partnerships. Bank
                                              Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I                          traditional financial services to begin                third-party partnerships help banks better
                                            yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from                   with, the bank will need to retain                     serve their communities by expanding access
                                            Texas (Mr. GREEN), who is also the                      thousand-dollar-an-hour      New    York               to affordable credit products from main-
                                            chair of the Subcommittee on Over-                      lawyers just to keep everything                        stream financial service providers. Such ac-
                                            sight and Investigations.                               straight. And guess what? Those costs                  cess is particularly important as individuals
                                              Mr. GREEN of Texas. And still I rise,                 get passed on to the consumer through                  and small businesses across the country
                                                                                                                                                           work to recover from effects of the COVID–
                                            Madam Speaker. Again, I thank the                       higher prices or reduced product avail-                19 pandemic. Banks seek partnerships with
                                            chairwoman for the time and the op-                     ability.                                               third parties for a variety of legitimate rea-
                                            portunity.                                                This is yet another example of the                   sons, including reaching additional markets,
                                              I would say to all, I recall the debate               Democrats sacrificing good policy for                  benefiting from specific expertise or tech-
                                            around the yield spread premium,                        the sake of political points, all under                nology, and improving the efficiency and
                                            wherein a loan originator could say to                  the guise of consumer protection.                      cost of their own operations. The OCC’s
                                            a person, ‘‘Here is a loan, you are lucky                 Contrary to some of the rhetoric                     third-party risk management guidance and
                                                                                                                                                           supplemental exam procedures make clear to
                                            to get it for 10 percent’’ when the per-                from my colleagues on the other side of                banks that they retain the risks for activi-
                                            son qualified for a loan at 5 percent.                  the aisle, a vote for this CRA will actu-              ties conducted through relationships with
                                              We eliminated the dastardly yield                     ally harm the very people they purport                 third parties.
                                            spread premium and the harm that it                     to be helping.                                           With the legal and regulatory certainty
                                            caused. We have a similar cir-                            Madam Speaker, one final point. I in-                provided by the rule, lending by banks made
                                            cumstance      with    the    rent-a-bank               clude in the RECORD an April 14, 2021,                 in partnership with third parties can be as-
                                            scheme that steals the American                                                                                sessed as part of the ongoing supervision of
                                                                                                    letter to the chair of the Financial
                                                                                                                                                           these banks, including as part of the OCC’s
                                            Dream, such that people who qualify                     Services Committee from the former                     examinations to evaluate bank compliance
                                            for better loans will likely get higher                 OCC      Acting     Comptroller    Blake               with applicable laws and regulations that en-
                                            loans because they don’t always under-                  Paulson.                                               sure consumer protection, Bank Secrecy Act
                                            stand the scheme.                                                OFFICE OF THE COMPTROLLER                     and anti-money laundering compliance, re-
                                              So I rise today, and I thank Mr. GAR-                                         OF THE CURRENCY,               quired disclosures, and other obligations as-
                                            CIA for what he has done to bring this                                 Washington, DC, April 14, 2021.         sociated with making loans. The OCC clari-
                                            bill to fruition. I thank the Chair-                    Hon. MAXINE WATERS,                                    fied examiner responsibilities in assessing
                                                                                                    Chairwoman, Committee on Financial Services,           true lender activities in third-party relation-
                                            woman, and I absolutely support the                         House of Representatives, Washington, DC.          ships in 202l. This clarification addressed
                                            legislation.                                            Hon. PATRICK MCHENRY,                                  considerations related to assessing banks’
                                              Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I                         Ranking Member, Committee on Financial Serv-           due diligence on the lending product or ac-
                                            yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from                       ices, House of Representatives, Washington,        tivity (e.g., terms and scope) and the third
                                            Kentucky (Mr. BARR), who is the rank-                       DC.                                                party; credit risk management, including un-
                                            ing member on the Subcommittee on                         DEAR CHAIRWOMAN WATERS AND RANKING                   derwriting practices; model risk manage-
                                            National Security, International De-                    MEMBER MCHENRY: On March 26, 2021, H.J.                ment; compliance management systems; and
                                                                                                    Res. 35 was introduced, providing for Con-             ongoing monitoring of the lending activity
                                            velopment, and Monetary Policy of the
                                                                                                    gressional disapproval under the Congres-              and the third party’s performance.
                                            Financial Services Committee. He is                     sional Review Act of the Office of the Comp-             If a bank fails to satisfy any of its compli-
                                            also a member of the Foreign Affairs                    troller of the Currency’s (OCC) final rule, en-        ance obligations, the OCC will not hesitate
                                            Committee.                                              titled ‘‘National Banks and Federal Savings            to use its supervisory and enforcement au-
                                                                                                                                                           thorities to correct the deficiencies, protect
                                                              b 1400                                Associations as Lenders,’’ commonly re-
                                                                                                                                                           consumers, and ensure the federal banking
                                                                                                    ferred to as the ‘‘True Lender’’ rule. As you
                                              Mr. BARR. Madam Speaker, I rise                       and other members consider the resolution, I           system operates in a safe, sound, and fair
                                            today also in opposition to S.J. Resolu-                want you to be aware of the rule’s intended            manner.
                                            tion 15, the Congressional Review Act                   effect and the adverse impact of overturning             As you consider the Congressional Review
                                                                                                    the rule.                                              Act resolution, you should be confident that
                                            repeal of the Office of the Comptroller                                                                        the OCC issued this rule with the intent to
                                            of the Currency’s true lender rule.                       On October 27, 2020, the OCC issued its final
                                                                                                    true lender rule to provide legal and regu-            enhance its ability to supervise bank lend-
                                              The United States has the most vi-                                                                           ing. The rulemaking conformed to the Ad-
                                                                                                    latory certainty to national banks’ and fed-
                                            brant and innovative financial system                   eral savings associations’ (banks) lending,            ministrative Procedure Act, and the agency
                                            in the world. Recent advancements in                    including loans made in partnerships with              considered all stakeholder comments pro-
                                            technology have fostered products and                                                                          vided during the rulemaking process. The re-
                                                                                                    third parties. The OCC’s rule specifies that a
                                            partnerships that expand access to                                                                             sulting rule is consistent with the authority
                                                                                                    bank makes a loan and is considered to be
                                                                                                                                                           granted to the agency by Congress.
                                            credit to large swaths of the population                the true lender of the loan if, as of the date           It    is    also   important     to     dispel
                                            that previously couldn’t access basic fi-               of origination, it (1) is named as the lender          misperceptions of the rule, many of which
                                            nancial services.                                       in the loan agreement or (2) funds the loan.           are repeated by opponents of the rule. To be
                                              Many of these innovations faced                       The rule clarifies that as the true lender of          clear, the rule does not change banks’ au-
                                                                                                    a loan, the bank retains the compliance obli-          thority to export interest rates. That au-
                                            challenges from regulatory red tape or                  gations associated with making the loan,
                                            confusing and often conflicting rules.                                                                         thority is granted by federal statute. Nor
                                                                                                    even if the loan is later sold, thus negating          does the rule permit national banks to
                                            The OCC’s true lender rule gave needed                  concerns regarding harmful rent-a-charter              charge whatever rate they like; national
                                            clarity to banks and their partners, fix-               arrangements. Our rulemaking prevents po-              banks and federal savings associations have
                                            ing the disastrous Madden rule.                         tential arrangements in which a bank re-               the same authority as state banks regarding
                                              The OCC’s true lender rule gave that                  ceives a fee to ‘‘rent’’ its charter and unique        the exportation of interest rates. Both fed-
                                            clarity, but unfortunately, the effort in               legal status to a third party with the intent          eral and state-chartered banks must conform
                                            the House today threatens to under-                     of evading state and local laws, while dis-            to applicable interest rate limits. Disparities
                                                                                                    claiming any compliance responsibility for             of interest rates from state to state result
                                            mine the progress that we have made                     the loan. These schemes have absolutely no
                                            and compromise underbanked individ-                                                                            from differences in the state laws that im-
                                                                                                    place in the federal banking system, and this          pose these caps, not OCC rules or actions.
                                            uals’ and small businesses’ access to fi-               rule helps address them.                               States retain the authority to set interest
                                            nancial services.                                         The rule makes clear banks’ responsibility           rates, and rates vary from state-to-state.
                                              I spoke with a local Kentucky bank                    and accountability for the loans they make               The rule does not limit states’ ability to
                                            that partners with a nonbank fintech                    and facilitates the OCC’s supervision of this          regulate the conduct of state-licensed and
                                            lender to provide credit to consumers,                  core banking activity. Disapproval of the              regulated nonbank lenders, which engage in




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                                            including many underbanked popu-                        rule would return bank lending relationships           the vast majority of predatory lending.
                                                                                                    to the previous state of legal and regulatory          States are the primary regulators of
                                            lations. They told me that absent the
                                                                                                    uncertainty, which, as nearly 50 preeminent            nonbank lenders, including payday lenders.
                                            true lender rule, they will once again                  economic and finance scholars explained in             Nonbank lenders are generally also subject
                                            be buried in compliance costs to keep                   January 2021, adversely affects the function           to the rules and enforcement actions of the
                                            track of the patchwork of cases that                    of secondary markets and restricts the avail-          Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
                                            dictate the rules of the road.                          ability of credit.                                     (CFPB).




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                                              It is also important to understand why de-              Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I                           We are not having honest conversa-
                                            mand exists for short-term, small-dollar                yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman                      tions. My peers across the aisle are
                                            credit products and why many consumers                  from California (Ms. PORTER).                          undoing good policy without an objec-
                                            rely on nonbank sources of such credit, in-                                                                    tive view to determine how it helps or
                                                                                                      Ms. PORTER. Madam Speaker, I ex-
                                            cluding payday lenders. Unfortunately,
                                            mainstream service providers, including                 press my gratitude to Chairwoman                       hurts Americans.
                                            commercial banks, largely abandoned short-              WATERS for allowing me to speak in                       Fintech has played a significant role
                                            term small-dolJar lending over the past two             support of invalidating the predatory                  in transforming our markets, helping
                                            decades. The resulting lack of choice and               true lender rule.                                      smaller banks become more competi-
                                            fewer options pushed up the cost of these                 In our home State, the legislature                   tive, and creating more products and
                                            products and forced consumers to seek serv-             passed an interest rate cap of 36 per-                 access for Americans. The true lender
                                            ices on less favorable terms. Because mil-              cent on loans of up to $10,000 about 2                 rule has supported that because it
                                            lions of U.S. consumers do not have suffi-              years ago.                                             clarifies the legal framework that al-
                                            cient savings or access to traditional credit,                                                                 lows these bank and nonbank partner-
                                                                                                      Before California Governor Newsom
                                            they borrow nearly $90 billion each year in                                                                    ships to be successful for consumers.
                                            short-term small-dollar loans typically rang-           had even signed this bill into law, pred-
                                                                                                    atory online lenders began plotting                      We should be prioritizing fair access
                                            ing from $300 to $5,000 to make ends meet and
                                                                                                    during their shareholder earnings calls                to financial services for Americans and
                                            to address things like emergency car repairs
                                            and other unexpected expenses. That is why              to evade the new law through rent-a-                   work to protect and promote innova-
                                            the OCC has remained vocal about encour-                bank arrangements. Companies like                      tion in our markets so that consumers
                                            aging banks to provide consumers with more              Speedy Cash and CashNetUSA went so                     have as many pathways as possible to
                                            safe and affordable options to meet these               far as to gloat about the California law               prosperity and achieving the American
                                            small-dollar needs. In providing these prod-                                                                   Dream.
                                                                                                    creating a huge opportunity for them
                                            ucts, banks should consider the ‘‘Interagency                                                                    If we scrap the true lender rule, we
                                            Lending Principles for Offering Responsible             by driving out their competition,                      will disrupt our market, stifle innova-
                                            Small-Dollar Loans,’’ published in May 2020.            subprime title lenders based in Cali-                  tion, and hinder access to accountable
                                            Banks should also consider the full and ac-             fornia.                                                and affordable credit for consumers and
                                            tual cost of a credit product and its afford-             Since the founding of the United                     small businesses. This is not the prece-
                                            ability. Fees associated with short-term                States, States have chosen to impose                   dent we should set in this body. It is a
                                            loans may range from $10 to $30 per $100 bor-           their own limits on interest rates that
                                            rowed, and the imputed annual percentage                                                                       gross abuse of power and a knife in the
                                                                                                    lenders may charge consumers. The                      back of consumers.
                                            rate (APR) of those loans can appear to ex-             Trump administration’s true lender
                                            ceed 100 percent or more. But often, the fees                                                                    Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I re-
                                            and total cost of these loans to the consumer
                                                                                                    rule    greenlit    these     rent-a-bank              serve the balance of my time.
                                            can be less than that of loans made with a 36           schemes and, in doing so, undermined                     Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I
                                            percent APR, when such loans are available              the will of Californians who, through                  yield myself the balance of my time.
                                            at all.                                                 the democratic process, chose to pro-                    The true lender rule specifies that
                                              As you consider the Congressional Review              hibit abusive interest rates.                          when a bank makes a loan, the bank is
                                            Act resolution, please keep in mind what                  The true lender rule violates our fed-               the true lender. The rule clarifies what
                                            may be an unintended consequence of a Con-              eralist democracy, and it must be in-                  was uncertain and, therefore, made
                                            gressional Review Act disapproval. Dis-                 validated.                                             those loans more expensive.
                                            approving the OCC’s true lender rule will                 Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, I                          This gives certainty to the market-
                                            constrain future Comptroller ability to ad-                                                                    place. It is a good thing. The true lend-
                                                                                                    yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from
                                            dress the true lender issue and may limit the
                                                                                                    Florida (Mr. DONALDS), who has been a                  er rule is a good thing.
                                            OCC’s ability to take supervisory or enforce-
                                                                                                    great new Member of Congress.                            Under the true lender rule, we have
                                            ment actions against banks that would have
                                            been deemed to have ‘‘made’’ the loan under               Mr. DONALDS. Madam Speaker, I                        fintechs that have been enabled to
                                            the true lender rule. Rather than vacate the            thank the gentleman for yielding to                    make loans in coordination with banks
                                            rule, limit future Comptrollers from taking             allow me to speak on this matter.                      and regulated like the people that they
                                            up similar rules or possibly hamstring the                It is important to understand,                       work with, like the banks that they
                                            OCC’s enforcement authority, changes to the             Madam Speaker, that having access to                   work with, which means the loans fall
                                            rule, if any, should be made through the                financial products is critical for not                 under Federal consumer protection
                                            agency’s rulemaking process and in accord-                                                                     laws, under Federal usury laws, under
                                                                                                    only the innovation of our markets but
                                            ance with the Administrative Procedures                                                                        Federal laws.
                                            Act.                                                    for the future expansion of our mar-
                                                                                                    kets. It is time to take the pettiness                   One case in point, what the true lend-
                                              Enclosed is a fact sheet that provides addi-                                                                 er rule enabled was one out of four Af-
                                            tional information for your awareness. If you           out of politics and actually prioritize
                                                                                                    policy that puts Americans first and                   rican American-owned businesses ac-
                                            have any questions or need additional infor-
                                                                                                    puts America first.                                    cessing credit through fintechs.
                                            mation, please do not hesitate to contact me
                                                                                                                                                             I would ask Members to review a few
                                            or Carrie Moore, Director, Congressional Re-              True lender is not being discussed in
                                            lations.                                                                                                       pieces of evidence that I have here.
                                                                                                    a way that considers people. If that                     Madam Speaker, I would refer the
                                                  Sincerely,                                        were the case, we would be recognizing
                                                                  BLAKE J. PAULSON,                                                                        Members to a study conducted by NYU
                                                                                                    the incredible ways it has spurred inno-               highlighting the important role that
                                                       Acting Comptroller of the Currency.
                                                                                                    vation in our markets and has provided                 fintechs play in supporting African
                                              Mr. BARR. The point I want to high-                   more access to credit and other finan-                 American-owned small businesses.
                                            light is that the former Acting Comp-                   cial products for Americans.                             I would also refer the Members to let-
                                            troller was making the point that dis-                    Instead of Congress working together                 ters in opposition to S.J. Res. 15: a
                                            approving the OCC’s true lender rule                    to create financial equity in a sustain-               June 8 letter from the American Bank-
                                            will constrain a future Comptroller’s                   able way or ensuring that the United                   ers Association, Consumer Bankers As-
                                            ability to address the true lender issue                States remains a global leader, Demo-                  sociation, Electronic Transactions As-
                                            and limit the OCC’s ability to take su-                 crats are working to undo anything ac-                 sociation, Independent Bankers of
                                            pervisory or enforcement actions                        complished under the Trump adminis-                    America, Midsize Bank Coalition of
                                            against banks that would have been                      tration, even if it means sacrificing the              America, and National Bankers Asso-
                                            deemed to have made the loan under                      good of the people.                                    ciation; an April 2, 2021, letter from
                                            the true lender rule; meaning that the                    I support assessing harmful financial                FreedomWorks, Americans for Tax Re-
                                            way the CRA law operates, if the House                  policies of the past and working to                    form, National Taxpayers Union, Cen-
                                            passes this resolution, we will have a                  undo some of the mistakes that have                    ter for a Free Economy, American
                                            permanent problem in the credit mar-                    been made. In fact, we could benefit                   Commitment, and Citizens Against




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                                            kets that will deprive low- and mod-                    from assessing legislation like Dodd-                  Government Waste; a letter from the
                                            erate-income Americans of the finan-                    Frank, which has put tremendous                        Structured Finance Association; a let-
                                            cial products that they desperately                     downward pressure on community                         ter from the Independent Community
                                            need.                                                   banks being formed in the United                       Bankers of America; a May 11, 2021, let-
                                              That is why I urge all my colleagues                  States. But that is not what is being                  ter from the American Bankers Asso-
                                            to reject this misguided proposal.                      done here.                                             ciation; a May 7, 2021, letter from the



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                                            Americans for Prosperity; and a June                      Deal with that. Don’t create needless                  A disproportionate share of payday
                                            22, 2021, letter from the Competitive                   pain for consumers. Don’t drive up the                 borrowers come from communities of
                                            Enterprise Institute, which consists of                 cost of credit and make it less avail-                 color even after controlling for income.
                                            a number of additional signatories.                     able by repealing this true lender rule.               Communities of color have historically
                                              None of those people are payday lend-                   This is another moment where my                      been left out of the banking system.
                                            ers, by the way, which is the most spu-                 colleagues are working against the na-                 Black and Latinx consumers are much
                                            rious argument about the true lender                    tional banks for politics rather than                  less likely to have a checking account
                                            rule. If you want to get at payday lend-                protecting consumers and creating a                    than White consumers, which is typi-
                                            ing, go talk about valid when made.                     more vibrant, competitive, and innova-                 cally a requirement for a payday loan.
                                            That would be the sound argument                        tive marketplace.                                      About 17 percent of Black and 14 per-
                                            from there. At least it has some rela-                    We should do what is good for con-                   cent    of   Latinx    households    are
                                            tionship tangentially to payday lend-                   sumers in the financial system. Tech-                  unbanked compared to 3 percent of
                                            ing. True lender does not. These are                    nology and innovation facilitate finan-                White households.
                                            different loans that are being described                cial inclusion, which should be our                      Payday lenders target communities
                                            by my colleagues across the aisle.                      goal.                                                  of color. The communities most af-
                                              Let’s be clear. The National Banking                    Let’s not waste further time here.                   fected by redlining are the same who
                                            Act enacted in 1864 established the                     Let’s vote this idea down that we are                  are saturated by payday lenders today,
                                            principle by which and explicitly                       debating right now. Let’s get back to                  which are more likely to locate in
                                            granted national banks the ability to                   actually driving a more competitive                    more affluent communities of color
                                            transfer loans State-by-State. If you                   marketplace and doing what is right                    than in less affluent White commu-
                                            don’t like that model, then repeal the                  for our constituents, what is right for                nities.
                                            1864 National Banking Act instead of                    consumers, and what is right for fami-                   One borrower, a single mother living
                                            making these false arguments about                      lies.                                                  below the poverty line from California,
                                            the true lender rule, which simply pro-                   Madam Speaker, I urge a ‘‘no’’ vote                  submitted a complaint to the CFPB
                                            vides clarity about the National Bank-                  on this resolution, and I yield back the               about Elevate’s RISE.
                                            ing Act.                                                balance of my time.                                      ‘‘I was misled by RISE Credit to be-
                                              My colleagues across the aisle would                    Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, may                       lieve that they were unlike other pred-
                                            have you believe that this is a complex                 I inquire how much time I have re-                     atory loan companies. By the time,’’
                                            scheme cooked up by the previous ad-                    maining.                                               she says, ‘‘I understood what I had
                                            ministration to get around consumer                       The SPEAKER pro tempore (Ms.                         signed, I had paid them thousands of
                                            protection laws. That is not true. We                   MCCOLLUM). The gentlewoman has 18                      dollars in interest.
                                            are talking about 157 years of banking                  minutes remaining.                                       ‘‘I have recently become temporarily
                                                                                                                                                           unemployed and called them to ask for
                                            law here in the United States, and my                                    b 1415                                help during my time of financial hard-
                                            colleagues across the aisle are arguing                   Ms. WATERS. Madam Speaker, I                         ship. They refused any solution and my
                                            about that.                                             yield myself such time as I may con-
                                              My Democratic colleagues also ig-                                                                            account is headed to collections now.
                                                                                                    sume.                                                    ‘‘The total paid is far over the
                                            nored this basic fact: They have made                     Madam Speaker, this resolution                       amount initially borrowed from RISE.
                                            misleading statements about national                    would take the necessary action to re-                 This is robbery, and all of the neces-
                                            banks versus State banks. They have                     verse the harmful Trump-era true lend-                 sities I have for myself and my chil-
                                            implied falsehoods on State interest                    er rule that preys on small business                   dren are suffering because of it.
                                            rates. They have cited protecting con-                                                                           ‘‘How is it that they can do this? I
                                                                                                    owners and individuals when they need
                                            sumers when now they are just leaving                                                                          am asking for help for not only my
                                                                                                    assistance the most. This rule is a back
                                            them out to dry. That is not consumer                                                                          family, but for all of the families tar-
                                                                                                    door for nonbanks to charge triple
                                            protection.                                                                                                    geted by these predatory loans meant
                                              I get it, Democrats are now so politi-                digit interest rates that trap con-
                                                                                                    sumers.                                                to target those living in poverty and
                                            cally motived that the facts and long-                                                                         struggling to live paycheck to pay-
                                                                                                      Last month, the Senate passed this
                                            standing precedent no longer matter. I                                                                         check.’’
                                                                                                    resolution on a bipartisan vote with all
                                            think facts matter. In fact, Democrats                                                                           The fake lender rule protects lenders
                                                                                                    Democrats voting in support. They
                                            are so blinded by partisanship, some                                                                           that not only destroy small businesses
                                                                                                    were joined by Republican Senators
                                            can’t even seem to differentiate be-                                                                           but also threaten to take business own-
                                                                                                    LUMMIS, RUBIO, and COLLINS. This reso-
                                            tween that doctrine of valid when made                                                                         ers’ homes.
                                            versus what we are discussing today,                    lution is also supported by more than
                                                                                                    400 consumer, civil rights, veterans,                    In New York, Jacob Adoni, a realtor,
                                            which is true lender. I think we should                                                                        has been facing foreclosure threats on
                                            be rooted in fact, and our policy de-                   small businesses, and other organiza-
                                                                                                    tions, including the American Civil                    a $90,000 loan with an interest rate of
                                            bates should be rooted in fact.                                                                                138 percent APR.
                                              Make no mistake, the true lender                      Liberties Union, Americans for Finan-
                                                                                                                                                             In a court case—that is Adoni et al.
                                            rule provides necessary consumer pro-                   cial Reform, the Center for Responsible
                                                                                                                                                           v. World Business Lenders, LLC, Axos
                                            tections and supports affordable credit                 Lending, Faith for Just Lending, the
                                                                                                                                                           Bank and Circadian Funding filed in
                                            to more communities. The rule does                      NAACP, National Association of Feder-
                                                                                                                                                           New York in October 2019—Adoni said
                                            nothing to change interest rates, plain                 ally-Insured Credit Unions, the Na-                    he received threats that the lender
                                            and simple. States retain that author-                  tional Consumer Law Center, Con-                       would foreclose on his home after re-
                                            ity.                                                    ference of State Bank Supervisors, and                 ceiving a $90,000 loan at 138 percent
                                              The actions in 2020 to clarify true                   25 State attorneys general from both                   APR, secured by his personal residence.
                                            lender are very different than codifying                red and blue States, among many oth-                     ‘‘Adoni was contacted by Circadian
                                            and clarifying valid when made. Both                    ers.                                                   Funding with an offer of a personal
                                            were important clarifications, though.                    Madam Speaker, and Members, small                    loan that would be funded by WLB and
                                              The argument today is about true                      businesses and underbanked consumers                   Axos Bank. He was told that the loan
                                            lender, not some massive shift away                     do not benefit from the rule. Instead,                 documents would be provided to him at
                                            from congressional intent, not some-                    the rule allows nonbank lenders to                     12 p.m. and he must execute them by 6
                                            thing new, something longstanding.                      launder loans through banks in order                   p.m. or the offer would no longer be
                                              Regardless, the Democrats will push                   to charge those with limited access to                 valid.
                                            through whatever they can in the                        credit triple digit interest rates and                   ‘‘Adoni was told by Circadian that
                                            House today. But as former Acting                       trap these consumers in devastating                    the loan was meant to be a personal




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                                            Comptroller Brooks recently stated,                     cycles of debt. These predatory rent-a-                loan to him, but it was necessary for
                                            nullifying the true lender rule does                    bank schemes disproportionately prey                   the loan documents to make reference
                                            nothing to undo payday lending—noth-                    on communities of color, draining                      to his business.’’
                                            ing. And it seems to be what my col-                    wealth from these communities and, in                    He has received multiple threats to
                                            leagues across the aisle have a real                    turn, perpetuating the racial wealth                   foreclose on his home and the mort-
                                            problem with.                                           gap.                                                   gage.



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                                              Madam Speaker, let me just respond                    is fair. And this committee is not going                                 GENERAL LEAVE
                                            to some of what I have heard from the                   to be about the business of ripping off                  Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Madam
                                            opposite side of the aisle. I am abso-                  the least of these.                                    Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that
                                            lutely overcome by the great interest                      Madam Speaker, I yield back the bal-                all Members have 5 legislative days to
                                            that my Republican colleagues have in                   ance of my time.                                       revise and extend their remarks and in-
                                            helping minorities. I am so moved                          The SPEAKER pro tempore. All time                   sert extraneous materials on S.J. Res.
                                            about the fact that all this is about                   for debate has expired.                                13.
                                            helping minorities who have been put                       Pursuant to the rule, the previous                    The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there
                                            into trouble because they are subprime                  question is ordered on the joint resolu-               objection to the request of the gen-
                                            lenders. Now if they are, it is because                 tion.                                                  tleman from Virginia?
                                            they were the victim of predatory lend-                    The question is on the third reading                  There was no objection.
                                            ers who put them in a subprime posi-                    of the joint resolution.                                 Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Madam
                                            tion.                                                      The joint resolution was ordered to                 Speaker, I yield myself such time as I
                                              But I hardly think that this is all                   be read a third time, and was read the                 may consume.
                                            about taking care of minorities and                     third time.                                              Madam Speaker, I rise today in sup-
                                            these small businesses. This is about                      The SPEAKER pro tempore. The                        port of S.J. Res. 13, a Congressional Re-
                                            protecting the big banks. This is about                 question is on passage of the joint reso-              view Act resolution disapproving the
                                            protecting the national banks. You                      lution.                                                Equal Employment Opportunity Com-
                                            heard what the ranking member said.                        The question was taken; and the                     mission, or EEOC, Conciliation Rule.
                                            The big national banks have been in                     Speaker pro tempore announced that
                                                                                                                                                             This resolution will help ensure fair-
                                            business for years, and we ought to let                 the ayes appeared to have it.
                                                                                                                                                           ness for those who bring forth charges
                                            them operate the way that they have                        Mr. MCHENRY. Madam Speaker, on
                                                                                                                                                           of unlawful workplace discrimination.
                                            historically operated and not interfere                 that I demand the yeas and nays.
                                            with them.                                                 The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-                       When the EEOC has found that an
                                              I don’t know where they get away                      ant to section 3(s) of House Resolution                employer likely violated the law, it is
                                            with protecting these big national                      8, the yeas and nays are ordered.                      required under title VII of the Civil
                                            banks. And the constituents in their                       Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, fur-               Rights Act of 1984 to engage in concil-
                                            own district who are being misused be-                  ther proceedings on this question are                  iation before filing a lawsuit. This con-
                                            cause they happen to get money,                         postponed.                                             ciliation process is meant to be an in-
                                            money that was lent to them by a                                                                               formal and confidential opportunity for
                                                                                                                      f                                    parties to settle a charge of discrimi-
                                            nonbank, and that nonbank partnered
                                            with a national bank, they are now                      PROVIDING FOR CONGRESSIONAL                            nation in lieu of going to court.
                                            having to pay the interest rates of an-                   DISAPPROVAL OF THE RULE                                Unfortunately, in the final weeks of
                                            other State, perhaps—like it was ex-                      SUBMITTED BY THE EQUAL EM-                           the Trump administration, the EEOC
                                            plained in California, why we have                        PLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COM-                            issued a final rule that imposed oner-
                                            usury laws and there is a cap on those                    MISSION RELATING TO ‘‘UPDATE                         ous new requirements on the concilia-
                                            interest rates.                                           OF COMMISSION’S CONCILIATION                         tion process.
                                              When they do this kind of partnering,                   PROCEDURES’’                                           Under the new rule, the EEOC must
                                            it is all about getting to a State where                  Mr. SCOTT of Virginia. Madam                         provide an employer with a written
                                            they are made to pay whatever that big                  Speaker, pursuant to section 7 of House                summary of the facts and the nonprivi-
                                            bank is allowed to collect from them.                   Resolution 486, I call up the joint reso-              leged information the EEOC relied on
                                              Madam Speaker, this is a rip-off.                     lution (S.J. Res. 13) providing for con-               to determine that the employer vio-
                                            This is about hurting the people who                    gressional disapproval under chapter 8                 lated the law. Notably, the rule re-
                                            most need our help. This is about al-                   of title 5, United States Code, of the                 quires the EEOC to expose the identi-
                                            lowing this partnering to go on. And                    rule submitted by the Equal Employ-                    ties of workers or groups of workers for
                                            many of those people who are bor-                       ment Opportunity Commission relating                   whom relief is being sought unless they
                                            rowing from these payday lenders and                    to ‘‘Update of Commission’s Concilia-                  proactively request anonymity, and
                                            other nonbanks don’t even know that                     tion Procedures’’, and ask for its im-                 their witnesses.
                                            they are going to be the victims of the                 mediate consideration in the House.                      This new rule will put a thumb on
                                            big banks and the interest rates that                     The Clerk read the title of the joint                the scale in favor of employers in cases
                                            they charge. This is absolutely ridicu-                 resolution.                                            where the EEOC found that they likely
                                            lous, and there is not a credible argu-                   The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-                      violated workers’ civil rights. Specifi-
                                            ment from the other side of the aisle                   ant to House Resolution 486, the joint                 cally, the rule incentivizes employers
                                            about why they should disadvantage                      resolution is considered read.                         to focus litigation on whether the
                                            these minorities and small businesses                     The text of the joint resolution is as               EEOC failed to satisfy the rule’s new
                                            that they claim that they are pro-                      follows:                                               requirements instead of whether the
                                            tecting. This is outrageous.                                              S.J. RES. 13                         employer engaged in unlawful discrimi-
                                              Madam Speaker, I am so pleased that                                                                          nation.
                                                                                                      Resolved by the Senate and House of Rep-
                                            the Senate passed this bill. And I am so                                                                         In fact, on settlement—settlements
                                                                                                    resentatives of the United States of America in
                                            pleased that the Republicans on the                     Congress assembled, That Congress dis-                 had been more likely since the Su-
                                            other side of the aisle—not on the                      approves the rule submitted by the Equal               preme Court ruled that this concilia-
                                            other side of the aisle, on the other                   Employment Opportunity Commission relat-               tion process should be informal, unlike
                                            side of Congress—decided to join with                   ing to ‘‘Update of Commission’s Conciliation           the rule that was promulgated late in
                                            the Democrats in order to do the right                  Procedures’’ (86 Fed. Reg. 2974; published             the Trump administration. This will
                                            thing on behalf of our constituents.                    January 14, 2021), and such rule shall have no
                                                                                                                                                           allow unscrupulous employers to drag
                                              Madam Speaker, when they talk                         force or effect.
                                                                                                                                                           out the conciliation process, possibly
                                            about, Oh, this is just because they                      The SPEAKER pro tempore. The                         for years—and even avoid account-
                                            didn’t like Trump and they want to                      joint resolution shall be debatable for 1              ability altogether—by just litigating
                                            undo whatever he has done, that is                      hour equally divided and controlled by                 over whether the EEOC complied with
                                            their talking point for the day. This is                the chair and ranking minority mem-                    the conciliation rule rather than cor-
                                            not about that.                                         ber of the Committee on Education and                  recting the discriminatory process.
                                              This committee, the Committee on                      Labor or their respective designees.




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                                            Financial Services, is a new and dif-                     The gentleman from Virginia (Mr.
                                            ferent kind of committee. We are not                    SCOTT) and the gentlewoman from                                             b 1430
                                            owned by the banks. We are not here to                  North Carolina (Ms. FOXX) each will                      The EEOC rule conflicts with the Su-
                                            protect the big banks and the national                  control 30 minutes.                                    preme Court’s 2015 decision in Mach
                                            banks. We are here because we are here                    The Chair recognizes the gentleman                   Mining v. EEOC. It was a unanimous
                                            to take care of what is right and what                  from Virginia.                                         decision. It held that the EEOC must



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