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Congressional Record — House of Representatives, H1760 (April 14, 2021)

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Page H1760 of the House section of the Congressional Record for April 14, 2021, from debate on bills under suspension of the rules, in interleaved columns. Speakers support a bill on carbon monoxide detection, saying carbon monoxide cannot be seen, heard, tasted or smelled, and H.R. 446, which would require the Commission to update its web portal with information on scams targeting seniors and to work with media outlets and law enforcement. Mr. Pallone and Mr. Bilirakis are recognized, and Mr. Harris demands the yeas and nays, after which further proceedings on the motion are postponed.

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                                              H1760                                              CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE                                                          April 14, 2021
                                              ones, I know there is nothing more im-                  dental CO poisoning. On a higher note,                 Commission shall update its web portal to
                                              portant than keeping our children and                   we can curb this statistic.                            include the latest information, searchable by
                                              loved ones safe. From a young age, we                      Better monitoring systems will en-                  region and type of scam, on scams targeting
                                                                                                      sure that people can prepare and pro-                  seniors, including contacts for relevant law
                                              tell our children to wear their seatbelts                                                                      enforcement and adult protective service
                                              in the car, a helmet while riding a bike                tect themselves. This bipartisan legis-                agencies.
                                              or skiing, and to handle sharp objects                  lation, which I was proud to cosponsor                   (b) COORDINATION WITH MEDIA OUTLETS AND
                                              with care. We go to great lengths to                    with my good friend, Representative                    LAW ENFORCEMENT.—The Commission shall
                                              protect our children from the dangers                   KUSTER from New Hampshire, helps us                    work with media outlets and law enforce-
                                              we can see, but there are threats to our                move the needle on this important sub-                 ment to distribute the information included
                                                                                                      ject. Many of us have heard stories of                 in the web portal of the Commission pursu-
                                              children’s and loved ones’ well-being
                                                                                                      families being impacted by this tragic                 ant to subsection (a) to senior citizens and
                                              that oftentimes go undetected.                                                                                 their families and caregivers.
                                                Among the most dangerous of these                     and preventable outcome. Whether it is
                                                                                                      seniors or children, this bill can help                  The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-
                                              is carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide
                                                                                                      save lives.                                            ant to the rule, the gentleman from
                                              is a stealthy killer. You cannot see it,
                                                                                                         Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague                   New Jersey (Mr. PALLONE) and the gen-
                                              hear it, taste it, or smell it. This dead-
                                                                                                      for her hard work on this bill, and I                  tleman from Florida (Mr. BILIRAKIS)
                                              ly gas claims the lives of over 400
                                                                                                      urge my colleagues to support this leg-                each will control 20 minutes.
                                              Americans every year and results in                                                                              The Chair recognizes the gentleman
                                              over 20,000 emergency room visits.                      islation.
                                                                                                         Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I have                    from New Jersey.
                                                Two of my constituents, John and
                                              April Courtney in Lyman, New Hamp-                      no additional speakers, and I reserve                                    GENERAL LEAVE
                                                                                                      the balance of my time.                                  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I ask
                                              shire, tragically lost their lives to car-
                                                                                                         Mr. BILIRAKIS. Mr. Speaker, I urge                  unanimous consent that all Members
                                              bon monoxide poisoning just this past
                                                                                                      my colleagues to pass this bill. It is a               may have 5 legislative days in which to
                                              year. If people know about the dangers
                                                                                                      great bill, a good consumer protection                 revise and extend their remarks and in-
                                              of carbon monoxide and have alarms
                                                                                                      bill, and I yield back the balance of my               clude extraneous material on H.R. 446.
                                              properly installed in their homes, trag-                time.                                                    The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there
                                              edies like the one in my district, can be                  Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I also                    objection to the request of the gen-
                                              prevented.                                              urge support for the bill, and I yield                 tleman from New Jersey?
                                                Mr. Speaker, that is why I am so                      back the balance of my time.                             There was no objection.
                                              proud to join my good friend, Rep-                         The SPEAKER pro tempore. The                          Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield
                                              resentative CARTER, in introducing in                   question is on the motion offered by                   myself such time as I may consume.
                                              the House, H.R. 1460, the Nicholas and                  the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.                       Mr. Speaker, I rise to speak in sup-
                                              Zachary Burt Memorial Carbon Mon-                       PALLONE) that the House suspend the                    port of H.R. 446, the Protecting Seniors
                                              oxide Poisoning Prevention Act that                     rules and pass the bill, H.R. 1460.                    from Emergency Scams Act. Rep-
                                              we will be voting on this evening.                         The question was taken.                             resentatives KELLY and BALDERSON in-
                                                This legislation provides funding for                    The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the                     troduced this bipartisan legislation to
                                              States to prevent future carbon mon-                    opinion of the Chair, two-thirds being                 further efforts by the FTC to stop
                                              oxide-related deaths by educating the                   in the affirmative, the ayes have it.                  fraud targeting seniors.
                                              public about the dangers of carbon                         Mr. HARRIS. Mr. Speaker, on that I                    This bill streamlines efforts to pro-
                                              monoxide poisoning and installing de-                   demand the yeas and nays.                              tect seniors from falling prey to scams
                                              tectors in housing for the elderly and                     The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-                     during national emergencies, such as
                                              low-income individuals and high-traffic                 ant to section 3(s) of House Resolution                the COVID–19 pandemic, by estab-
                                              public buildings like schools. This bi-                 8, the yeas and nays are ordered.                      lishing a searchable database of scams
                                              partisan legislation will save lives.                      Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, fur-               targeting seniors.
                                                At a time when Congress so often                      ther proceedings on this motion are                      In the Committee on Energy and
                                              seems divided, this legislation is proof                postponed.                                             Commerce, we have held multiple hear-
                                              that we can work together to find com-                                    f                                    ings exploring the rise in fraud and
                                              mon ground and get things done to                           PROTECTING SENIORS FROM                            scams that have come with the COVID–
                                              help our constituents.                                        EMERGENCY SCAMS ACT                              19 pandemic.
                                                Mr. Speaker, I thank Mr. CARTER,                                                                               Unfortunately, scammers often take
                                              and I thank our chairman, and I en-                       Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I move
                                                                                                                                                             advantage of the fear and uncertainty
                                              courage all of my colleagues to vote in                 to suspend the rules and pass the bill
                                                                                                                                                             that results from emergency situa-
                                              favor of this legislation.                              (H.R. 446) to require the Federal Trade
                                                                                                                                                             tions. And since the beginning of the
                                                Mr. BILIRAKIS. Mr. Speaker, I yield                   Commission to submit a report to Con-
                                                                                                                                                             COVID pandemic, consumers have re-
                                              such time as he may consume to the                      gress on scams targeting seniors, and
                                                                                                                                                             ported losing more than $300 million in
                                              gentleman from Georgia (Mr. CARTER),                    for other purposes.
                                                                                                        The Clerk read the title of the bill.                just pandemic-related fraud.
                                              my good friend.                                           The text of the bill is as follows:                    After Hurricane Sandy ravaged the
                                                Mr. Speaker, I really appreciate his                                                                         East Coast, including my own district
                                                                                                                          H.R. 446
                                              perspective on the Committee on En-                                                                            in New Jersey, scammers preyed on
                                                                                                        Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep-
                                              ergy and Commerce as the only phar-                     resentatives of the United States of America in        people who lost their homes and liveli-
                                              macist on the committee. I thank him                    Congress assembled,                                    hoods. We saw contracting scammers
                                              for sponsoring this legislation.                        SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.                                promising to rebuild people’s homes
                                                Mr. CARTER of Georgia. Mr. Speak-                      This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Protecting             but who took the money and ran. One
                                              er, I thank the gentleman for yielding.                 Seniors from Emergency Scams Act’’.                    man was in prison for using fake titles
                                                Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support                  SEC. 2. FTC REPORT ON SCAMS TARGETING SEN-             to sell Sandy-damaged cars.
                                              of H.R. 1460. The bill, the Nicholas and                            IORS DURING EMERGENCIES.                     Unfortunately, older Americans are
                                                                                                        Not later than 30 days after the date of en-
                                              Zachary Burt Memorial Carbon Mon-                                                                              targeted disproportionately and af-
                                                                                                      actment of this Act, the Federal Trade Com-
                                              oxide Poisoning Prevention Act is a                     mission (referred to in this Act as the ‘‘Com-         fected by this fraud. Older Americans
                                              piece of legislation that can save lives.               mission’’) shall submit a report to Congress           reported significantly bigger monetary
                                                It would direct the Consumer Prod-                    including—                                             losses from fraud than younger adults.
                                              uct Safety Commission to award grants                     (1) a description of the number and types of           According to a recent FTC report,
                                              to install carbon monoxide alarms in                    scams identified by the Commission as being            phone scams result in the highest re-




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                                              buildings and facilities that house vul-                targeted at senior citizens; and                       ported losses by older adults, particu-
                                              nerable members of the population.                        (2) policy recommendations to prevent                larly adults over 80. Phone-based scams
                                                According to the CDC, at least 430                    such scams, especially as such scams relate            can be especially problematic in emer-
                                                                                                      to future national emergencies.
                                              people die in the United States from                    SEC. 3. INCREASING AWARENESS OF SCAMS TAR-
                                                                                                                                                             gency situations like the pandemic
                                              accidental CO poisoning every year. On                              GETING SENIORS.                            when people are spending more time at
                                              top of that, nearly 50,000 people visit                   (a) IN GENERAL.—As soon as practicable               home and seniors may be more iso-
                                              the ER every year because of acci-                      after the date of enactment of this Act, the           lated.



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                                              April 14, 2021                                     CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE                                                                    H1761
                                                Representatives        KELLY       and                FTC to report on the number and type                       PROTECTING INDIAN TRIBES
                                              BALDERSON’s bill will help address                      of scams that target older adults. It                            FROM SCAMS ACT
                                              these scams. It directs the FTC to issue                also will have the Commission’s web                      Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I move
                                              a report on fraud targeting seniors dur-                portal updated with current informa-                   to suspend the rules and pass the bill
                                              ing the pandemic and how to improve                     tion about such scams and coordina-                    (H.R. 1762) to direct the Federal Trade
                                              efforts against senior scams during fu-                 tion with media outlets and law en-                    Commission to submit to Congress a
                                              ture emergencies.                                       forcement to disseminate scam infor-                   report on unfair or deceptive acts or
                                                Mr. Speaker, I encourage my col-                      mation. Seniors need to know what                      practices targeted at Indian Tribes or
                                              leagues to join me in supporting this                   scams are happening in their areas so                  members of Indian Tribes, and for
                                              bill, and I reserve the balance of my                   they can protect themselves.                           other purposes.
                                              time.                                                      Mr. Speaker, I thank Representative                   The Clerk read the title of the bill.
                                                                b 1345                                BALDERSON for joining me in leading                      The text of the bill is as follows:
                                                                                                      this legislation and Chairman PALLONE                                      H.R. 1762
                                                 Mr. BILIRAKIS. Mr. Speaker, I yield
                                                                                                      for his support in advancing legislation                 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep-
                                              myself such time as I may consume.
                                                                                                      to protect our seniors.                                resentatives of the United States of America in
                                                 Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support                                                                        Congress assembled,
                                              of H.R. 446, the Protecting Seniors                        Mr. BILIRAKIS. Mr. Speaker, I yield
                                                                                                                                                             SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
                                              from Emergency Scams Act. I would                       such time as he may consume to the
                                                                                                                                                               This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Protecting
                                              like to thank Representative ROBIN                      gentleman from Ohio (Mr. BALDERSON),                   Indian Tribes from Scams Act’’.
                                              KELLY of the Energy and Commerce                        the cosponsor of the legislation.                      SEC. 2. PROTECTING INDIAN TRIBES FROM UN-
                                              Committee for her bipartisan work                          Mr. BALDERSON. Mr. Speaker, I rise                             FAIR OR DECEPTIVE ACTS OR PRAC-
                                                                                                      today in support of H.R. 446, legislation                         TICES.
                                              with Representative TROY BALDERSON
                                                                                                      aimed that at protecting older Ameri-                    (a) FTC REPORT ON UNFAIR OR DECEPTIVE
                                              to protect our constituents.                                                                                   ACTS OR PRACTICES TARGETING INDIAN
                                                 The COVID–19 pandemic has turned                     cans from falling victim to scammers.                  TRIBES.—Not later than 1 year after the date
                                              the lives of millions of Americans up-                     Throughout the pandemic, uncer-                     of the enactment of this Act, and after con-
                                              side down, unfortunately. We were all                   tainty has led to many Americans fall-                 sultation with Indian Tribes, the Commis-
                                              forced to isolate, sometimes even away                  ing victim to scam callers, especially                 sion shall make publicly available on the
                                              from our families and friends, to stay                  vulnerable populations like seniors. We                website of the Commission and submit to the
                                              safe. Unfortunately, it is during these                 have a responsibility to stop bad actors               Committee on Energy and Commerce of the
                                              times when bad actors aim to exploit                                                                           House of Representatives and the Committee
                                                                                                      like these scam artists in their tracks.
                                                                                                                                                             on Commerce, Science, and Transportation
                                              the most vulnerable. Promising fake                     That starts with empowering the                        of the Senate a report on unfair or deceptive
                                              lifesaving medication and stimulus                      American people with information to                    acts or practices targeted at Indian Tribes or
                                              checks, scammers will stop at nothing                   better protect themselves and their                    members of Indian Tribes, including—
                                              to take advantage of others.                            loved ones from falling victim.                          (1) a description of the types of unfair or
                                                 H.R. 446 would protect Americans, es-                   H.R. 446 would direct the Federal                   deceptive acts or practices identified by the
                                              pecially seniors, from malicious and                    Trade      Commission      to      identify            Commission as being targeted at Indian
                                              deceptive scams by augmenting the                                                                              Tribes or members of Indian Tribes;
                                                                                                      scammers and make such information                       (2) a description of the consumer education
                                              tools included in other recently en-                    publicly available. This legislation also              activities of the Commission with respect to
                                              acted legislation. As they have worked                  equips the FTC to more proactively                     such acts or practices;
                                              on legislation to fight scammers, I                     alert the public about known scams,                      (3) a description of the efforts of the Com-
                                              have supported my colleagues’ efforts                   specifically in their region.                          mission to collaborate with Indian Tribes to
                                              to incorporate provisions that encour-                     Mr. Speaker, our seniors have suf-                  prevent such acts or practices or to pursue
                                              age cooperation with law enforcement.                   fered enough. It is time to better sup-                persons using such acts or practices;
                                              I am pleased to see such efforts con-                                                                            (4) a summary of the enforcement actions
                                                                                                      ply them and their loved ones with the                 taken by the Commission related to such
                                              tinue in this legislation.                              information needed to protect them-
                                                 Mr. Speaker, of course, I urge my col-                                                                      acts or practices; and
                                                                                                      selves against scammers who shame-                       (5) any recommendations for legislation to
                                              leagues to pass this legislation, and I
                                                                                                      lessly prey on the most vulnerable.                    prevent such acts or practices.
                                              reserve the balance of my time.                                                                                  (b) INCREASING AWARENESS OF UNFAIR OR
                                                                                                      That is why I urge my colleagues to
                                                 Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield                                                                           DECEPTIVE ACTS OR PRACTICES TARGETING IN-
                                                                                                      join me in supporting H.R. 446, the Pro-
                                              such time as she may consume to the                                                                            DIAN TRIBES.—Not later than 6 months after
                                                                                                      tecting Seniors from Emergency Scams
                                              gentlewoman       from     Illinois  (Ms.                                                                      the date of the submission of the report re-
                                                                                                      Act.                                                   quired by subsection (a), the Commission
                                              KELLY), the lead sponsor of the bill who
                                              has worked so hard, particularly dur-                      Mr. BILIRAKIS. Mr. Speaker, I sup-                  shall update the website of the Commission
                                              ing the pandemic, to address dispari-                   port this legislation, and I urge my col-              to include information for consumers and
                                                                                                      leagues to vote for it.                                businesses on identifying and avoiding unfair
                                              ties in healthcare.                                                                                            or deceptive acts or practices targeted at In-
                                                 Ms. KELLY of Illinois. Mr. Speaker,                     Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance
                                                                                                                                                             dian Tribes or members of Indian Tribes.
                                              the past year has been tough for many                   of my time.                                              (c) COMMISSION DEFINED.—In this section,
                                              of us but especially difficult for sen-                    Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I also                    the term ‘‘Commission’’ means the Federal
                                              iors. Many have lost friends and loved                  urge support for the bill, and I yield                 Trade Commission.
                                              ones from the COVID–19 pandemic.                        back the balance of my time.                             The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-
                                                 Increased isolation and dependence                      The SPEAKER pro tempore. The                        ant to the rule, the gentleman from
                                              on digital resources have put extra bur-                question is on the motion offered by                   New Jersey (Mr. PALLONE) and the gen-
                                              dens on millions of Americans.                          the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr.                     tleman from Florida (Mr. BILIRAKIS)
                                                 From frantic calls of, ‘‘Grandma, I                  PALLONE) that the House suspend the                    each will control 20 minutes.
                                              am in the hospital sick with COVID.                     rules and pass the bill, H.R. 446.                       The Chair recognizes the gentleman
                                              Please wire money right away,’’ to                         The question was taken.                             from New Jersey.
                                              calls from supposed Good Samaritans                                                                                              GENERAL LEAVE
                                                                                                         The SPEAKER pro tempore. In the
                                              offering to run errands and then pock-                                                                           Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I ask
                                                                                                      opinion of the Chair, two-thirds being
                                              eting the money, scammers are using                                                                            unanimous consent that all Members
                                                                                                      in the affirmative, the ayes have it.
                                              the pandemic to take advantage of vul-                                                                         may have 5 legislative days in which to
                                              nerable populations. They are preying                      Mr. HARRIS. Mr. Speaker, on that I
                                                                                                                                                             revise and extend their remarks and in-




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                                              on fear and uncertainty to steal money                  demand the yeas and nays.
                                                                                                                                                             clude extraneous material on H.R. 1762.
                                              and personal information or sell fraud-                    The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-                       The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there
                                              ulent services or products.                             ant to section 3(s) of House Resolution                objection to the request of the gen-
                                                 One of the best ways to prevent sen-                 8, the yeas and nays are ordered.                      tleman from New Jersey?
                                              iors from falling victim to scams is to                    Pursuant to clause 8 of rule XX, fur-                 There was no objection.
                                              supply them with the information they                   ther proceedings on this motion are                      Mr. PALLONE. Mr. Speaker, I yield
                                              need. That is why H.R. 446 requires the                 postponed.                                             myself such time as I may consume.



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