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Unanimous Consent Request on S. 730, March 17, 2021 — Congressional Record, Senate

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Page S1599 of the Senate section of the Congressional Record for March 17, 2021, in interleaved columns, with a unanimous consent request on S. 730. One speaker praises Mr. Becerra, saying he served for over two decades in the House, fought for healthcare rights, worked across party lines as California's attorney general and speaks movingly of his family, which is that speaker's view. Another speaker describes a bill that would let Federal law prosecute criminals who target law enforcement officers at State and local levels, and a further speaker says revenue cannot be backfilled after cutting taxes.

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                                               March 17, 2021                                    CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — SENATE                                                                  S1599
                                               friend. I first met then-Congressman                    that Mr. Becerra fought to pass and                    not only his expertise and skill but the
                                               Becerra in the House of Representa-                     which he has fought to defend against                  empathy and the compassion needed to
                                               tives, where he served for over two dec-                constant attacks in the courts.                        help those most in need.
                                               ades with myself and the Presiding Of-                    There is no question that Xavier                       Like most of us, Mr. Becerra is also
                                               ficer and others, and where he was a                    Becerra fights for what he believes is                 guided and motivated by what makes
                                               champion for the healthcare rights of                   right, as he should, but that has never                him most proud: his family. At his con-
                                               the American people, working over-                      prevented him from working across the                  firmation hearing, he spoke movingly
                                               time to make sure that every Amer-                      aisle to get things done. As the attor-                about his wife and his children, who
                                               ican had access to quality, affordable                  ney general in the State of California,                are all a part of all that he does. And
                                               healthcare.                                             he has repeatedly partnered with Re-                   he spoke about his parents, who trav-
                                                 We served together in the House                       publicans to solve the pressing issues                 eled to this country from Mexico seek-
                                               Democratic leadership, and we served                    facing our fellow citizens.                            ing a better life, with nothing more
                                               together on the House Ways and Means                      He builds bridges every day and has                  than, in Xavier’s words, ‘‘their health
                                               Committee. So I have had an oppor-                      worked across party lines to expand ac-                and their hope.’’
                                               tunity to see his legislative talents up                cess to COVID–19 treatments, to con-                     It is that health and that hope that
                                               front and also to witness his love of                   front the opioid crisis, and to address                propelled Mr. Becerra into a life of pub-
                                               service to our country.                                 the dangers of vaping and smoking                      lic service, and it is that health and
                                                 We worked together to halt a number                   among our Nation’s youth.                              that hope that will animate his leader-
                                               of proposals that maybe some of our                       His record shows that Attorney Gen-                  ship at the Department of Health and
                                               Republican colleagues here in the Sen-                  eral Becerra fights for what is impor-                 Human Services, should he be con-
                                               ate were pushing for, including the pro-                tant to the people he represents, not                  firmed by this Senate.
                                               posal that continuously appeared in                     the party he belongs to, and he has                      He was brought up in a family that
                                               the House Republican budget to                          demonstrated it by example time and                    believed in and sought the American
                                               voucherize the Medicare Program. One                    time again with his ability to bridge                  dream, and he has spent his life fight-
                                               of the former Speakers of the House                     deep divisions, even during this time of               ing to make that dream real for fami-
                                               wanted to essentially provide seniors                   division. I know that he will fight hard               lies across this Nation. He believes, as
                                               on Medicare with a voucher and send                     for each and every one of our fellow                   I believe, that that mission requires us
                                               them out into more of a private mar-                    citizens and will not look to see wheth-               to care for the health and safety of
                                               ketplace. It would have ended up put-                   er somebody is a Democrat or a Repub-                  each and every one of our fellow citi-
                                               ting our seniors more at risk. So to-                   lican or from some other party. What                   zens, and I have full confidence that he
                                               gether we did battle that idea.                         he cares about is making sure he is                    is up to the task.
                                                 We served together on what was                                                                                 Colleagues, I urge us to confirm the
                                                                                                       looking out for the healthcare of every
                                                                                                                                                              nomination of Xavier Becerra to be the
                                               known as the Congressional Joint Se-                    American.
                                                                                                         And, at this moment, everyone in                     next Secretary of the Department of
                                               lect Committee on Deficit Reduction,
                                                                                                       this country stands to benefit from an                 Health and Human Services.
                                               also known as the ‘‘supercommittee,’’                                                                            The PRESIDING OFFICER (Ms. HAS-
                                               and known to some as the ‘‘not-so-                      effective leader at the helm of the De-
                                                                                                                                                              SAN). The Senator from Indiana.
                                               super committee.’’ I saw him work to                    partment of Health and Human Serv-
                                                                                                                                                                     UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUEST—S. 730
                                               try to achieve agreements on some of                    ices. Our most pressing task is to con-
                                                                                                                                                                Mr. BRAUN. Madam President, this
                                               the biggest challenges facing our coun-                 tain the spread of COVID–19 and to de-
                                                                                                                                                              past year has been hard on Hoosiers
                                               try, but, like him, we both agreed that                 feat COVID–19. That requires clear
                                                                                                                                                              and Americans across the country.
                                               we weren’t going to do that at the ex-                  messaging on public health measures.
                                                                                                                                                              When the economy was shut down,
                                               pense of protecting Medicare for sen-                   That requires accelerating the dis-
                                                                                                                                                              Congress got to work. Given my back-
                                               iors, protecting Medicaid as an abso-                   tribution of vaccines and treatment                    ground as a business owner, I was in-
                                               lutely essential healthcare safety net                  and testing and making sure we do all                  volved in negotiating the Paycheck
                                               for tens of millions of Americans, and                  of that in an equitable way. That                      Protection Program, known as PPP, as
                                               we were not prepared to provide more                    means safely guiding the opening of                    part of the CARES Act, one of five bills
                                               tax cuts to the very wealthiest of                      our schools, and we all want our stu-                  that passed in 2020 with overwhelming
                                               Americans.                                              dents to get back to school as quickly                 support, I think 90-plus votes. We
                                                 It is in that last effort where Xavier                as possible and as safely as possible.                 worked it out, Democrats and Repub-
                                               Becerra, I think, really distinguished                    As the attorney general of California,               licans, together.
                                               himself in the House, when it came to                   he has led one of the largest depart-                    Those COVID-related packages to-
                                               the issue of equity and healthcare. I                   ments of justice in the country, and, in               taled $4 trillion, and we didn’t have a
                                               know the Presiding Officer knows well                   that capacity, has stood up for strong                 penny saved up ahead of time to pre-
                                               the battles we all went in together in                  consumer and worker protections                        pare for it. That is part of a deeper
                                               the development and passage of the Af-                  throughout this pandemic and before,                   problem with this institution, is that
                                               fordable Care Act, and it was that that                 and I trust that he will continue to do                we borrow anything that we spend
                                               really defined Mr. Becerra’s legacy in                  so for all Americans as Secretary of                   money on, even 23 percent of our an-
                                               the House.                                              HHS, if confirmed.                                     nual operating budget. To put that in
                                                 He championed the Affordable Care                       We know that this public emergency                   perspective, imagine if you had a busi-
                                               Act from the very start. He helped both                 and health crisis has been a blow to our               ness doing $100,000 in revenue, and you
                                               to write and to pass this landmark law                  country. It has also laid bare the fault               are losing $23,000, and then you go to
                                               that now helps tens of millions of our                  lines in our healthcare system in terms                your banker and expect them to bail
                                               fellow Americans, and after leaving the                 of racial inequities, inaccessibility for              you out. It wouldn’t make sense.
                                               Congress, he led the charge to defend                   underserved communities, and under-                      We came into 2021 with over $1 tril-
                                               the Affordable Care Act against the                     investment in our public health infra-                 lion from those packages unspent, un-
                                               Texas case before the Supreme Court of                  structure. These issues, of course, pre-               obligated. Instead of working with us
                                               the United States.                                      dated COVID–19, but we must tackle                     like before, Democrats did shut us out
                                                 Now, I know a lot of our Republican                   them with renewed urgency as we                        of the process. In fact, the Senate as a
                                               colleagues have also spent years fight-                 emerge from this crisis.                               whole did not work the bill through
                                               ing the Affordable Care Act. We have                      Mr. Becerra is equipped to root out                  committees. It was laid to us, on the
                                               seen that play out here in the U.S. Sen-                these disparities, both because of his




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                                                                                                                                                              Senate, by the House, all $1.9 trillion of
                                               ate within the last couple years. But                   knowledge and skill and expertise but                  it.
                                               the reality is the Affordable Care Act                  also because of his lived experience.                    Before this, some Republicans went
                                               is very important to the overwhelming                   Xavier grew up in a working-class                      to the White House to talk with the
                                               majority of the American people who                     Latino family. He knows the commu-                     President about a bipartisan plan,
                                               support it and is an essential lifeline to              nities that are hurting most because he                knowing all the money would be bor-
                                               quality, affordable healthcare for tens                 has lived in those communities. He                     rowed again, but nothing came to fru-
                                               of millions of Americans. And it is that                would bring to this important office                   ition. Instead, we stayed up all night;



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                                               finished the bill at noon the next day,                 stimulus checks for undocumented im-                   every Tuesday afternoon. As Governor,
                                               Saturday; spent 29 hours on the floor,                  migrants, for felons, all kinds of stuff               I would have my finance people come
                                               and not a single Republican amend-                      that I think, when you look at it,                     to my office, and we would sit down
                                               ment was adopted in this massive                        shouldn’t have been in there. But when                 and look at the revenue estimates. We
                                               spending bill.                                          it is that massive—it takes 10, 11 hours               had to make adjustments because we
                                                 Instead of focusing on the virus and                  to read out loud—you are going to get                  had a balanced budget amendment.
                                               getting our economy back on track,                      some of that. What this does is say                    Isn’t that a novelty, a balanced budget
                                               this became an exercise in ramming                      that if a State takes Federal money,                   amendment? We had to live within our
                                               something through that was a liberal                    they cannot lower their State taxes in                 confines. That is something that no
                                               wish list. Only 1 percent of the bill—1                 any way through 2024.                                  one who has ever been in State govern-
                                               percent of the bill—went toward the                       First of all, I believe this is unconsti-            ment or ever run a business under-
                                               vaccine. Less than 9 percent goes to-                   tutional and coercive. Second, we                      stands. I understand that. But it is
                                               ward COVID–19 public health issues                      should never punish States for putting                 something that we did very religiously.
                                               generally.                                              taxpayers first. We serve the public and                 The language in this bill, Senator
                                                 While the Congressional Budget Of-                    should be good stewards of their                       from Indiana, the only thing this bill
                                               fice projects the economy to return to                  money, and especially a place like this                does—or that language you were con-
                                               prepandemic levels by midyear, only 5                   that runs the way it does day in and                   cerned about, the only thing it did—
                                               percent of the $130 billion for K–12                    day out should not be telling States                   you can cut all you want to. You can
                                               schools gets spent this year, and none                  that run their operations responsibly                  manage all your money the way you
                                               of it is tied to reopening our schools,                 that they cannot do what they want                     want. You just can’t take Federal
                                               which many States had shut down                         with spending or taxation.                             money and use it if you cut your rev-
                                               early and opened up late.                                 My bill strikes the provision that                   enue intentionally. That is all. What
                                                 Included in this package is a whop-                   prohibits States’ ability to change rev-               we try to do is target where the money
                                               ping $350 billion for State and local                   enues as they see fit for their State’s                has gone.
                                               governments. I had a conversation with                  unique needs.                                            So the Treasury, you have to go—as
                                               our own Governor 2, 3 weeks ago. A                        Second, my bill strips out the report-               a State, you go to the Treasury, and
                                               place like Indiana, and I believe West                  ing requirement where States have to                   you show the need that you have. You
                                               Virginia as well, probably runs bal-                    tell the Federal Government about                      show the cost—what COVID has cost
                                               anced budgets. We do it with the guard-                 every revenue source and amount of                     your revenue and you are able to have
                                               rail of a constitutional amendment.                     money they take in. This place ought                   money to replace that because COVID
                                               Many other States, if they don’t have a                 to be doing that routinely to all the                  caused you that problem.
                                               constitutional amendment, they have a                   people who send it revenue.                              You have also the ability to use this,
                                               statute. In other words, you do what                      This bill has the support of over 25                 in your State, for three things: water,
                                               households do. You do what all busi-                    groups, including the American Legis-                  sewer, and internet service. So you
                                               nesses do. You live within your means.                  lative Exchange Council, Americans                     have infrastructure that can be done.
                                               And here, when you run your State                       for Prosperity, Americans for Tax Re-                    Also, what we did in this bill is we
                                               governments in a way that in good                       form, Citizens Against Government                      have it going out to 2024, so you are not
                                               times, you can’t make ends meet, and                    Waste,        Club       for       Growth,             going to overheat, if you will—over-
                                               you look to the Federal Government to                   FreedomWorks, Heritage Action for                      heat or overcharge the economy. They
                                               bail out your bad governance, it is a                   America, Independent Women’s Forum,                    can spread that out. The State and
                                               whole nother issue.                                     and the National Taxpayers Union,                      local moneys go in two tranches: Half
                                                 Even left-leaning economists and                      among others. We expect many more to                   this year, half next year is what you
                                               think tanks are worried about what                      join in coming days. I am sure many                    can access. The money to every one of
                                               this is going to do down the road be-                   stakeholders in Indiana and in West                    your communities—for the first time,
                                               cause most of the time, you don’t feel                  Virginia not mentioned will throw in                   40 percent of that total money goes di-
                                               the repercussions until later. And, of                  support as well.                                       rectly, so your large cities will get
                                               course, that could show up in inflation.                  Lastly, I would like to thank the Fi-                money directly from the Treasury.
                                               It could show up in a way similar to                    nance Committee ranking member,                        They have to show how they are using
                                               what we dealt with in the late seven-                   Senator CRAPO, for cosponsoring this                   it for their backfill, not, basically, hav-
                                               ties and the early eighties.                            legislation—and others, including Sen-                 ing anything to do with what their tax
                                                 Forty-four States had surpluses last                  ators BLACKBURN, CAPITO, INHOFE,                       revenue is. They just can’t use this
                                               year, when you look at COVID funding.                   MARSHALL, RUBIO, RICK SCOTT, TILLIS,                   money to backfill tax cuts if they want
                                               Many places, like California, had sur-                  and Senator YOUNG from my home                         to do that. That is pretty simple be-
                                               pluses. Then they reconfigured how                      State.                                                 cause there is not a need for it. If you
                                               this was done not based on pro rata                       Madam President, I ask unanimous                     can reduce your taxes, then you don’t
                                               population but rewarded the States                      consent that the Committee on Fi-                      need Federal dollars to backfill to
                                               with the highest unemployment levels.                   nance be discharged from further con-                  show that you are in good shape. But if
                                               It sounds bizarro to me.                                sideration of S. 730 and the Senate pro-               you need it for anything else, you can
                                                 Governor Holcomb in Indiana has                       ceed to its immediate consideration. I                 use it for that. You can use it for all
                                               done a great job balancing the econ-                    further ask that the bill be considered                these things.
                                               omy with public safety, and that is                     read a third time and passed and that                    I can tell you—I would assure you
                                               why our unemployment rate is now                        the motion to reconsider be considered                 that every incorporated city in Indi-
                                               close to a full employment rate. It was                 made and laid upon the table.                          ana, every county in Indiana has to be
                                               the lowest in the Midwest going into it                   The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there                      thrilled. They have to be thrilled for
                                               because we have a good business cli-                    objection?                                             the first time to have control of their
                                               mate, and we have a low cost of living.                   Mr. MANCHIN. Reserving the right                     destiny. That was our intention.
                                               Things work there. Sadly, the Demo-                     to object.                                               In the first CARES package, that
                                               crats’ bill punishes States like Indiana                  The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen-                      never happened. The first CARES pack-
                                               for safely reopening. The higher a                      ator from West Virginia.                               age went directly to the Governors,
                                               State’s unemployment rate, again, the                     Mr. MANCHIN. Madam President, my                     and if the Governors were very prudent
                                               more bailout money you get propor-                      good friend the Senator from Indiana—                  in how they did it—set up a committee,




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                                               tionately.                                              I am hoping this is a misunder-                        worked through the legislature—some
                                                 But it goes one step further, and this                standing, and I hope I can explain it be-              did, some didn’t, and there is a lot of
                                               is the part that caught my attention. I                 cause I was very much involved in this                 money that never got into the basic fi-
                                               am interested in hearing the expla-                     process.                                               bers of your State or my State. Now
                                               nation for it. I think it was a sneaky                    First of all, as a former Governor, I                that is not going to be the problem.
                                               maneuver when you put it in such a                      know about the budget process. I know                    Also, they have the ability, if they
                                               large bill that had other doozies like                  about balanced budgets. I used to meet                 have a water project they have been



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                                               trying to do forever and never had the                  bill that Senator MURKOWSKI and my-                    State has money for those three
                                               resources to do it, they can use their                  self put in there. There was bipartisan-               tranches of infrastructure. The coun-
                                               money for that.                                         ship in that.                                          ties have it, and the municipalities
                                                  If they have a sewer project—I have                    There should have been a lot more; I                 have it. The unincorporated towns that
                                               said this: How do we pick water, sewer,                 agree. We both know the process some-                  aren’t able to get money directly are
                                               and internet? They are not the sexy                     times doesn’t work the way we want it                  going to count on the county and the
                                               things that, basically, Governors and                   to. But you make every effort you can                  State.
                                               politicians go out and cut ribbons for—                 to make it work. I did that. Whenever                     There is so much good to be done to
                                               a sewer line or a water line that is bur-               I talked, I said that this had bipartisan              make it work for you to make sure
                                               ied 50 feet down. That is not a sexy                    input. It didn’t come out as a bipar-                  they understand. They are elated to
                                               thing.                                                  tisan vote, but there was bipartisan                   now have a project they never could
                                                  We knew the infrastructure was fall-                 input into this piece of legislation, the              finish, like upgrade your services, fin-
                                               ing apart city by city and the ages of                  best we possibly could.                                ish your water line, have internet serv-
                                               water lines are over 80 years in most of                  I think it is a piece of legislation                 ice you have never had before. These
                                               our cities. So we tried to do something.                that we—if you have education, there                   are all unbelievable opportunities that
                                                  They have until 2024, so they don’t                  is not a school in America today that                  we have never had.
                                               have to throw it out. It is not shovel-                 should not be able to have a program                      The bipartisan SMART Act that was
                                               ready. It is a project you have been                    where they can make their school the                   filed in May 2020 included both of these
                                               wanting to do but never could afford.                   safest environment that a child should                 guardrails, plus another one required
                                                  I assure you, we do not want to im-                  be in. Every parent should be safe in                  maintenance of effort. We have that in
                                               pede good fiscal management to make                     thinking their children are in a safe                  there. Maintenance of effort—we put
                                               adjustments to do whatever they want                    place because of heating, ventilation—                 that back then.
                                               to their tax codes. This does not pro-                  things that we have in this bill that                     The Bipartisan State and Local Sup-
                                               hibit that. It just prohibits using and                 allow education to have the resources                  port of Small Business Protections Act
                                               going to the Federal Treasury and say-                  it needs and, also, your higher edu-                   that was released last December had
                                               ing: I have a loss of revenue because I                 cation too.                                            exactly the same language. This is not
                                               cut $100 billion or I cut $100 million or                 The money that is going out—you                      new language, sir. This is the same lan-
                                               a billion dollars out of my State budget                have money going to the stimulus pay-                  guage that has been there.
                                               when I reduced taxes, and now I can’t                   ments, going to all of your citizens at                   They have never been able to backfill
                                               pay my bills.                                           $75,000. We put a hard cap. We tried it                for, basically, discretionary cuts that
                                                  Also, you can’t use this money from                  to put a hard cap at $75,000 and $150,000.             they made themselves. It doesn’t pro-
                                               the Federal Government for your pen-                    We found out the first CARES pack-                     hibit them, the same as it doesn’t pro-
                                               sions. That is a responsibility that we                 age—I don’t think that anyone on the                   hibit anybody in their State for hav-
                                               have. We call it OPEB, other postponed                  Republican side or the Democrat side                   ing—and being a former Governor, I am
                                               employment benefits. OPEB is other                      thought someone making $200,000,                       very partial to the 10th Amendment to
                                               postponed employment benefits—pen-                      $300,000 would be getting money. They                  the Constitution, States rights. You
                                               sions, healthcare, all the things that                  didn’t need a check, but we found out                  have those rights. Now you have the
                                               when a person retires from their State,                 it happened. We didn’t intend for that                 assistance also with those rights.
                                               these are things that the State has a                   to happen. That is the way the code                       I am hoping to improve everyone’s
                                               contract and an obligation for them in                  read, and that is the way it kind of                   situation. I know it does in West Vir-
                                               their retirement. It is the responsi-                   slipped into that. We stopped that from                ginia. I hope it does in Maine. I hope it
                                               bility of the States to manage that,                    happening here.                                        does in Indiana, and I think it will.
                                               and that, basically, keeps the State in                   So we tried to do everything—and                        It is all about making these emer-
                                               a good financial position. It keeps your                that, again, came from our bipartisan                  gency funds get to the right people. We
                                               credit rating up or your credit rating                  group. If it wasn’t for the bipartisan                 are trying to target it. It is something
                                               low if you have managed yourself                        group talking and saying ‘‘This is                     we have to keep an eye on. I can tell if
                                               through it. This is only to help you                    something we can’t do,’’ I would have                  we do it and do it right and we are good
                                               with expenses and extraordinary ex-                     had things I might have missed. I                      stewards, this will get us through this
                                               penses that you incurred during                         wouldn’t have known some things that                   COVID challenge that we have because
                                               COVID. That is all, sir.                                were of concern to all of us and some of               we really don’t know.
                                                  I don’t want the State of Indiana or                 the atrocities that happened that we                      I am hoping we come out of this guns
                                               any State to think that they can’t do                   didn’t want to repeat. We did all the                  ablazing in July—we come out of this,
                                               whatever they want to with their                        things we could to stop that.                          and the economy takes off like a rock-
                                               taxes. They just can’t use the Federal                    I am very reluctant to object to any                 et. Sometimes when they take off, they
                                               Treasury to backfill something done                     of my Senators, my fellow Senators,                    tend to level off too.
                                               deliberately, basically, or self-in-                    but on this one, sir—if I can work with                   We want to make sure we are still
                                               flicted—a loss of revenue. That is about                you on this—I am objecting because I                   out there for 2022, 2023, out to 2024. And
                                               it in a nutshell.                                       want to have a productive sit-down                     if they do it and do it right, they can.
                                                  COVID–19 is the greatest challenge                   with you and we can work on some-                      They can finish their projects and be
                                               we have ever had. I know you men-                       thing together.                                        able to have the moneys as needed for
                                               tioned a few things. I will tell you this                 Please tell your Governor that he can                emergencies if it has a dip.
                                               because my dear friend from Maine is                    cut away if he wants to. He just can’t                    With that, we thought we had worked
                                               sitting here. We met quite a bit on the                 go back to the Federal Government                      something, but the language is nothing
                                               bill in a bipartisan way, even though a                 and say: OK, I made a mistake. Now I                   new. It is not a surprise. It was not
                                               lot of it did not get in. The bill was big-             need your money.                                       anything that was put in; it has been in
                                               ger than what my friends—all of you,                      That is about it in a nutshell. If Indi-             there. Basically, it is language that
                                               my friends on the Republican side—                      ana can cut and it helps you and grows                 spells out pretty directly how you can
                                               could basically vote for. I understand                  your economy, God bless you. If you                    use your money and what money you
                                               that.                                                   have COVID expenses, we are going to                   can’t acquire. That is the only thing
                                                  But please understand there are an                   help you. If you have projects—my                      we did.
                                               awful lot of things we talked about                     goodness, just infrastructure projects—




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                                               that I did everything in my power to                    then there is no impediment there if                      The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there
                                               make sure the tranches—spreading                        you have internet services you need, if                objection?
                                               them out, not going it all at one time.                 you have water services, and you have                     Mr. MANCHIN. Yes, there is objec-
                                               There is the RESTAURANTS Act. Sen-                      sewer services.                                        tion.
                                               ator WICKER and Senator SINEMA were                       In West Virginia, what we are trying                    The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objec-
                                               on the RESTAURANTS Act. There                           to do right now is put a team together                 tion is heard.
                                               was, basically, the homeless children’s                 that can basically work from this. The                    The Senator from Indiana.



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                                                  Mr. BRAUN. My friend from West                       pede that whatsoever. We have also                     be a self-ingratiating way to where it
                                               Virginia explained why this won’t im-                   looked at it constitutionally, and we                  will help you down the road, but you
                                               pact Governors and legislatures in                      are solid on the Constitution.                         still can’t backfill for that.
                                               terms of what they can do with their                      All we are asking is, does the Federal                  Now, for any COVID expenses you
                                               own fiscal policy. I would say my                       Government have a responsibility to                    have, absolutely, you can fill that hole.
                                               friend the Senator from West Virginia                   backfill with Treasury dollars a deci-                 Show that you have had COVID ex-
                                               probably ought to check with Governor                   sion that could be self-inflicted? That                penses. If you were to say, ‘‘OK. We
                                               Justice and his legislature to see if                   is all. You should live with that or my                filled all of our holes for COVID, and
                                               they are on the same wavelength there.                  State should live with it or reap the                  now we have water, sewer, and inter-
                                                  When we got input in bringing this                   benefits. We are not penalized. Even if                net’’—and trust me, there is not a
                                               up as an issue and when you are talk-                   your revenues went up, you still had                   place in Indiana or in West Virginia
                                               ing about the American Legislative Ex-                  COVID expenses you could offset.                       that doesn’t need help there.
                                               change Council, Americans for Tax Re-                   Those were legitimate expenses that                       I thank the Senator. I appreciate it.
                                               form, Citizens Against Government                       you incurred during the COVID–19 pan-                     I yield the floor.
                                               Waste—I won’t repeat the rest of the                    demic. The COVID–19 pandemic is what                      The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen-
                                               list—I think it would get down to se-                   we are talking about. So if your reve-                 ator from Maine.
                                                                                                                                                                 (The remarks of Ms. COLLINS per-
                                               mantics in this sense: What do you do                   nues went up after that, we are not pe-
                                                                                                                                                              taining to the introduction of S. 804 are
                                               if you want to cut tax rates? Then, just                nalizing you. If they went down, that is
                                                                                                                                                              printed in today’s RECORD under
                                               like pre-COVID, we cut taxes, and reve-                 a whole other story because COVID                      ‘‘Statements on Introduced Bills and
                                               nues went up for 3 to 4 years.                          caused that, but you just can’t cause it               Joint Resolutions.’’)
                                                  How do you measure that com-                         yourself. I think this is it in a nutshell.               Ms. COLLINS. I yield the floor.
                                               plicated equation? In many cases, when                    Mr. BRAUN. Will the Senator yield?                      The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen-
                                               you cut rates, you find a new sweet                       Mr. MANCHIN. Yes, I will yield.                      ator from North Carolina.
                                               spot where you generate more tax rev-                     Mr. BRAUN. I think it begs the ques-                            PROTECT AND SERVE ACT
                                               enue. How would you sort all of that                    tion in that, by cutting taxes, you are                  Mr. TILLIS. Mr. President, I rise in
                                               out? Then, if it were not based upon pe-                going to lower gross tax revenues, and                 support of the brave, hard-working
                                               nalizing States that are most apt to                    that has been a discussion we have all                 men and women who serve as law en-
                                               lower their tax rates because of how                    had for many years.                                    forcement officers in our communities
                                               good their economies were pre-COVID,                      I know in places like Indiana—and we                 across the Nation. Men and women in
                                               it would be a different issue as well.                  just had it occur here with the Tax                    law enforcement risk life and limb
                                                  So I am willing to listen in terms of                Cuts and Jobs Act at the Federal                       every day to protect public safety and
                                               how that does play out, but for now, I                  level—that the CBO—and I was work-                     preserve the rule of law. They truly are
                                               am going to view it as something, I                     ing with it—was getting close to saying                American heroes.
                                               think, that is not going to sit well with               its original forecast of when you had a                  In recognition of their remarkable
                                               many States, their Governors, or their                  tax cut, which was $1.5 trillion over 10               service and sacrifice, I am reintro-
                                               legislatures and that has a possibility                 years, $150 billion per year, wasn’t                   ducing the Protect and Serve Act. I
                                               of being taken to court as being some-                  working out that way because there is                  hope every Senator agrees we must do
                                               thing that might be unconstitutional.                   the phenomenon called: When you find                   everything we can to support the men
                                               If I am off base, I am willing to listen,               the sweet spot of taxation, you can cut                and women in blue. I also call on my
                                               but I will probably have to bring some                  taxes and generate more revenue. Then                  colleagues to support this common-
                                               other parties in to make sure that this                 you penalize a good fiscal move by the                 sense legislation. It is my hope that
                                               isn’t a case of semantics and is real ac-               way you are interpreting your reading.                 this legislation will unite us on a bi-
                                               cording to the way you explain it.                        I am willing to get into the nuance to               partisan basis to support those heroes
                                                  Mr. MANCHIN. Will the Senator                        see if that would muster that par-                     who keep us safe.
                                               yield?                                                  ticular case, but I don’t think it would.                I can think of no better example of
                                                  Mr. BRAUN. Yes, I will yield.                          Mr. MANCHIN. Will the Senator                        why we need this legislation than the
                                                  Mr. MANCHIN. First of all, I did have                yield?                                                 events of January 6, right here in this
                                               a nice conversation with Governor Jus-                    Mr. BRAUN. Yes, I will yield.                        Chamber and across the Capitol. While
                                               tice. He and I have disagreed on basic                    Mr. MANCHIN. Senator BRAUN has                       a ruthless, anarchist mob sought to
                                               issues on Tax Code legislation, and we                  always been very kind and very reason-                 disrupt and destroy our democracy,
                                               are trying to work through all of that.                 able, and I look forward to sitting                    Capitol Police officers bravely kept us
                                               I explained it to him. I said that it                   down with him on this.                                 safe from harm while they were being
                                               doesn’t do a thing in that it doesn’t im-                 What he has said is absolutely cor-                  viciously attacked by the violent mob.
                                               pede you at all. If you want to cut, go                 rect in that we are not penalizing. We                 Many of my colleagues saw this first-
                                               ahead and cut. He is still moving                       don’t intend to penalize anybody who                   hand while they were getting us into a
                                               through with the legislation. He might                  has made that decision, but the Sen-                   safe position as the events unfolded
                                               succeed on that, and he might not.                      ator is talking about a State that has                 that day.
                                                  With that, I will make it very clear                 a balanced budget amendment year in                      Because this attack occurred in DC,
                                               that this is not new language. You can-                 and year out. There is a time when a                   though, there are only limited laws in
                                               not backfill. You cannot backfill. The                  Governor has to make a decision and                    place to prosecute those who would as-
                                               only thing you can use your money for                   go to his legislature and say: Hey, we                 sault a law enforcement officer. Under
                                               is for COVID expenses. Basically, if                    are going to be X amount of dollars                    current law, a criminal who assaults a
                                               your revenues were down through no                      short, so we need to cut. So they start                law enforcement officer with a deadly
                                               fault of your own, business dropped off,                cutting and cutting services. That is                  weapon or who inflicts bodily injury
                                               and your tax collections were down                      what happens in order to balance the                   could receive anywhere from a fine to
                                               through no fault of your own, then that                 budget usually—services are cut to the                 20 years in prison. Under the Protect
                                               is what this is for. COVID caused you a                 people.                                                and Serve Act, these violent criminals
                                               problem. It caused you an imposition                      We are just saying in our piece of leg-              will receive an additional 10 years in
                                               and put strain on the services that you                 islation here that we have that we                     prison if they assault an officer, and if
                                               are basically providing to the people of                don’t want that to happen because it is                they murder or kidnap a law enforce-
                                               West Virginia and Indiana.                              of no fault of your own, but if you cut




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                                                                                                                                                              ment officer, they could be given life
                                                  We want to make sure that your first                 your taxes and you are thinking, well,                 sentences.
                                               responders are there and your edu-                      5 years down the road, we are going to                   This would apply not only to Federal
                                               cation is there, that everything is still               have more revenue, then that is fine.                  law enforcement and Federal prop-
                                               running the way it is supposed to. That                 You just can’t backfill for that short                 erties, but it could also be used to pros-
                                               is why we have passed five bills in try-                period of time and use it for something                ecute criminals at the State and local
                                               ing to keep things afloat, and we think                 for which you have cut revenues, basi-                 levels who target law enforcement offi-
                                               we have done that. So it does not im-                   cally, in a self-inflicting way. It might              cers. This Federal law would ensure



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