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Congressional Record, December 4, 2020 — House

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Page H6842 of the House section of the Congressional Record for December 4, 2020, showing the end of a roll call with 164 nays on passage of a bill, after Mrs. Lesko demands the yeas and nays. Mr. Carter of Georgia gives a personal explanation that he missed rollcall Nos. 233, 234 and 235 and would have voted aye. In floor debate a speaker honors a fallen veteran whose life was cut tragically short, saying these veterans fought for the country, and another exchange concerns a family of three children in an apartment and the limits of what a bill provided, which are the speakers' views.

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                                            H6842                                                  CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE                                                              December 4, 2020
                                              (Jeffries)Sires     Titus (Connolly)   Wilson (FL)         Veasey            Wasserman             Wexton                        PERSONAL EXPLANATION
                                                                                                         Vela               Schultz              Wild
                                              (Norcross)          Watson Coleman      (Hayes)
                                                                                                                           Waters                Wilson (FL)
                                                                                                                                                                    Mr. CARTER of Georgia. Madam Speaker,
                                            Speier (Scanlon)        (Pallone)                            Velázquez
                                            Thompson (CA)         Welch                                  Visclosky         Watson Coleman        Yarmuth          on rollcall No. 233, I am not recorded because
                                              (Kildee)              (McGovern)                                             Welch                 Young            of circumstances which caused me to miss the
                                                                                                                             NAYS—164                             vote. Had I been present, I would have voted
                                              The SPEAKER pro tempore (Ms.                                                                                        aye.
                                            MCCOLLUM). The question is on the pas-                       Amodei            Griffith              Posey
                                                                                                         Armstrong         Grothman              Reed               On rollcall No. 234, I am not recorded be-
                                            sage of the bill.                                            Arrington         Guest                 Rice (SC)        cause of circumstances which caused me to
                                              The question was taken; and the                            Babin             Guthrie               Roby             miss the vote. Had I been present, I would
                                            Speaker pro tempore announced that                           Bacon             Hagedorn              Rodgers (WA)     have voted aye.
                                            the ayes appeared to have it.                                Baird             Harris                Roe, David P.
                                                                                                         Balderson         Hartzler              Rogers (AL)
                                                                                                                                                                    On rollcall No, 235, I am not recorded be-
                                              Mrs. LESKO. Madam Speaker, on                              Banks             Hern, Kevin           Rogers (KY)      cause of circumstances which caused me to
                                            that I demand the yeas and nays.                             Barr              Herrera Beutler       Rooney (FL)      miss the vote. Had I been present, I would
                                              The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu-                            Bergman           Hice (GA)             Rose, John W.
                                                                                                         Biggs             Hill (AR)                              have voted nay.
                                            ant to section 3 of House Resolution                                                                 Rouzer
                                                                                                         Bilirakis         Holding               Roy                 MEMBERS RECORDED PURSUANT TO HOUSE
                                            965, the yeas and nays are ordered.                          Bishop (NC)       Hollingsworth         Rutherford             RESOLUTION 965, 116TH CONGRESS
                                              The vote was taken by electronic de-                       Bishop (UT)       Hudson                Scalise          Barragán (Beyer)   Kaptur (Dingell)     Payne
                                                                                                         Bost              Huizenga              Schweikert
                                            vice, and there were—yeas 228, nays                          Brady             Hurd (TX)
                                                                                                                                                                  Bera (Aguilar)      Kennedy (Kuster        (Wasserman
                                                                                                                                                 Sensenbrenner    Bonamici (Clark       (NH))                Schultz)
                                            164, not voting 38, as follows:                              Brooks (AL)       Jacobs
                                                                                                                                                 Shimkus            (MA))             Kim (Davids          Peters (Kildee)
                                                                  [Roll No. 235]                         Buchanan          Johnson (OH)
                                                                                                                                                 Simpson          Boyle, Brendan        (KS))              Pingree (Kuster
                                                                                                         Buck              Johnson (SD)
                                                                   YEAS—228                                                                      Smith (MO)         F. (Jeffries)     Kirkpatrick            (NH))
                                                                                                         Burchett          Jordan
                                                                                                                                                 Smith (NE)       Brownley (CA)         (Stanton)          Pocan (Raskin)
                                            Adams                 Garamendi          Morelle             Bustos            Joyce (OH)
                                                                                                                                                 Smith (NJ)         (Clark (MA))      Lamb (Golden)        Porter (Wexton)
                                            Aguilar               Garcı́a (IL)       Moulton             Byrne             Joyce (PA)
                                                                                                                                                 Smucker          Carson (IN)         Langevin             Pressley
                                            Allred                Garcia (TX)        Mucarsel-Powell     Chabot            Katko
                                                                                                                                                 Spano              (Cleaver)           (Lynch)              (Trahan)
                                            Amash                 Golden             Murphy (FL)         Cheney            Keller
                                                                                                                                                 Stauber          Castor (FL)         Lawson (FL)          Price (NC)
                                            Axne                  Gomez              Nadler              Cline             Kelly (MS)
                                                                                                                                                 Stefanik           (Demings)           (Demings)            (Butterfield)
                                            Barragán             Gonzalez (TX)      Napolitano          Cloud             Kelly (PA)
                                                                                                                                                 Steil            Cohen (Beyer)       Lee (NV) (Kuster     Rooney (FL)
                                            Bass                  Gottheimer         Neal                Cole              King (NY)
                                                                                                                                                 Steube           Costa (Cooper)        (NH))                (Beyer)
                                            Beatty                Green, Al (TX)     Neguse              Comer             Kinzinger
                                                                                                                                                 Stivers          DeSaulnier
                                            Bera                  Grijalva           Norcross            Conaway           Kustoff (TN)                                               Lieu, Ted (Beyer)    Roybal-Allard
                                                                                                                                                 Taylor             (Matsui)
                                            Beyer                 Haaland            O’Halleran          Crawford          LaHood                                                     Lipinski               (Garcia (TX))
                                                                                                                                                 Thompson (PA)    Deutch (Rice
                                            Bishop (GA)           Hall               Ocasio-Cortez       Crenshaw          LaMalfa                                                      (Schrader)         Ruiz (Dingell)
                                                                                                                                                 Thornberry         (NY))
                                            Blumenauer            Harder (CA)        Omar                Cuellar           Lamb                                                       Lofgren (Jeffries)   Rush
                                                                                                                                                 Tiffany          Doggett (Raskin)
                                            Blunt Rochester       Hastings           Pallone             Curtis            Lamborn                                                    Lowenthal              (Underwood)
                                                                                                                                                 Timmons          Doyle, Michael
                                            Bonamici              Hayes              Panetta             Davidson (OH)     Latta                                                        (Beyer)            Schneider
                                                                                                                                                 Tipton             F. (Cartwright)
                                            Boyle, Brendan        Heck               Pascrell            Davis, Rodney     Lesko                                                      Lowey (Tonko)          (Casten (IL))
                                                                                                                                                 Turner           Escobar (Garcia
                                              F.                  Higgins (NY)       Payne               DesJarlais        Lipinski                                                   McEachin             Schrier
                                                                                                                                                 Upton              (TX))
                                            Brindisi              Himes              Perlmutter          Diaz-Balart       Long                                                         (Wexton)             (DelBene)
                                                                                                                                                 Van Drew         Frankel (Clark
                                            Brown (MD)            Horn, Kendra S.    Peters              Duncan            Lucas                                                      McNerney             Serrano
                                                                                                                                                 Walberg            (MA))
                                            Brownley (CA)         Horsford           Phillips            Emmer             Luetkemeyer                                                  (Raskin)             (Jeffries)
                                                                                                                                                 Walden           Garamendi
                                            Butterfield           Houlahan           Pingree             Estes             Marshall                                                   Meng (Kuster         Sires (Norcross)
                                                                                                                                                 Walker             (Sherman)
                                            Carbajal              Hoyer              Pocan               Fitzpatrick       Massie                                                       (NH))              Speier (Scanlon)
                                                                                                                                                 Walorski         Grijalva (Garcı́a
                                            Cárdenas             Huffman            Porter              Fleischmann       McCaul                                                     Moore (Beyer)        Thompson (CA)
                                                                                                                                                 Waltz              (IL))
                                            Carson (IN)           Jackson Lee        Pressley            Flores            McKinley                                                   Mucarsel-Powell        (Kildee)
                                                                                                                                                 Watkins          Hastings
                                            Cartwright            Jayapal            Price (NC)          Fortenberry       Meuser                                                       (Wasserman         Titus (Connolly)
                                                                                                                                                 Weber (TX)         (Wasserman
                                            Case                  Jeffries           Quigley             Fulcher           Miller                                                       Schultz)
                                                                                                                                                                    Schultz)                               Watson Coleman
                                                                                                         Gallagher         Moolenaar             Webster (FL)
                                            Casten (IL)           Johnson (GA)       Raskin                                                                       Higgins (NY)        Nadler (Jeffries)      (Pallone)
                                                                                                         Garcia (CA)       Mooney (WV)           Wenstrup
                                            Castor (FL)           Johnson (TX)       Rice (NY)                                                                      (Sánchez)        Napolitano           Welch
                                                                                                         Gibbs             Murphy (NC)           Westerman
                                            Castro (TX)           Kaptur             Riggleman                                                                    Jayapal (Raskin)      (Correa)             (McGovern)
                                                                                                         Gohmert           Nunes                 Williams
                                            Chu, Judy             Keating            Rose (NY)                                                                    Johnson (TX)        Pascrell             Wilson (FL)
                                            Cicilline                                                    Gonzalez (OH)     Olson                 Wilson (SC)
                                                                  Kelly (IL)         Rouda                                                                          (Jeffries)          (Pallone)            (Hayes)
                                            Cisneros              Kennedy            Roybal-Allard       Gooden            Palazzo               Wittman
                                            Clark (MA)            Khanna             Ruiz                Gosar             Pappas                Womack                               f
                                                                                                         Granger           Pence                 Woodall
                                            Clarke (NY)           Kildee             Ruppersberger
                                                                                                         Graves (MO)       Perry                 Yoho                                     b 1315
                                            Cleaver               Kilmer             Rush
                                                                                                         Green (TN)        Peterson              Zeldin
                                            Clyburn               Kim                Ryan                                                                                LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
                                            Cohen                 Kind               Sánchez                             NOT VOTING—38
                                            Connolly              Kirkpatrick        Sarbanes                                                                       (Mr. SCALISE asked and was given
                                            Cooper                Krishnamoorthi     Scanlon             Abraham           Cox (CA)              McHenry          permission to address the House for 1
                                            Correa                Kuster (NH)        Schakowsky          Aderholt          Dunn                  Mitchell
                                                                                                         Allen             Ferguson              Mullin
                                                                                                                                                                  minute and to revise and extend his re-
                                            Costa                 Langevin           Schiff
                                            Courtney              Larsen (WA)        Schneider           Brooks (IN)       Foxx (NC)             Newhouse         marks.)
                                            Craig                 Larson (CT)        Schrader            Bucshon           Fudge                 Norman             Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I rise for
                                            Crist                 Lawrence           Schrier             Budd              Gianforte             Palmer           the purpose of inquiring to the major-
                                            Crow                  Lawson (FL)        Scott (VA)          Burgess           Graves (LA)           Reschenthaler
                                            Cunningham            Lee (CA)           Scott, David        Calvert           Higgins (LA)                           ity leader the schedule for next week.
                                                                                                                                                 Richmond
                                            Davids (KS)           Lee (NV)           Serrano             Carter (GA)       Johnson (LA)                             Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman
                                                                                                                                                 Scott, Austin
                                            Davis (CA)            Levin (CA)         Sewell (AL)         Carter (TX)       King (IA)
                                                                                                                                                 Stewart          from Maryland (Mr. HOYER), my friend
                                            Davis, Danny K.       Levin (MI)         Shalala             Clay              Loudermilk                             and the majority leader of the House.
                                                                                                         Collins (GA)                            Wagner
                                            Dean                  Lieu, Ted          Sherman                               Marchant
                                                                                                         Cook              McCarthy              Wright             Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank
                                            DeFazio               Loebsack           Sherrill
                                            DeGette               Lofgren            Sires                                                                        the gentleman for yielding.
                                            DeLauro               Lowenthal          Slotkin                              b 1308                                    Mr. Speaker, on Monday, the House
                                            DelBene               Lowey              Smith (WA)                                                                   will meet at 12 p.m. for legislative
                                            Delgado               Luján             Soto                  Mr. LARSON of Connecticut changed                      business. Members are advised that
                                            Demings               Luria              Spanberger          his vote from ‘‘nay’’ to ‘‘yea.’’
                                            DeSaulnier            Lynch              Speier                                                                       votes are expected as early as 2 p.m.
                                            Deutch                Malinowski         Stanton
                                                                                                           So the bill was passed.                                  I want to repeat that. We are going
                                            Dingell               Maloney,           Stevens               The result of the vote was announced                   in at 12 p.m. Votes can be as early as 2
                                            Doggett                 Carolyn B.       Suozzi              as above recorded.                                       p.m.
                                            Doyle, Michael        Maloney, Sean      Swalwell (CA)         A motion to reconsider was laid on
                                              F.                  Mast               Takano                                                                         This is unusual for the first day of
                                            Engel                 Matsui             Thompson (CA)       the table.                                               the week. I have advised and urged
                                            Escobar               McAdams            Thompson (MS)                      PERSONAL EXPLANATION                      Members to stay here this weekend—
                                            Eshoo                 McBath             Titus
                                            Espaillat             McClintock         Tlaib
                                                                                                            Mr. KING of Iowa. Madam Speaker, I was                most of them I have talked to are—be-




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                                            Evans                 McCollum           Tonko               unable to vote on December 3, and 4, 2020,               cause, clearly, we are trying to get two
                                            Finkenauer            McEachin           Torres (CA)         due to not being in town. Had I been present,            critical pieces of legislation done,
                                            Fletcher              McGovern           Torres Small        I would have voted as follows: ‘‘no’’ on rollcall
                                            Foster                McNerney             (NM)
                                                                                                                                                                  which we will speak to, I think, in a
                                            Frankel               Meeks              Trahan              No. 230; ‘‘no’’ on rollcall No. 231; ‘‘no’’ on roll-     little bit.
                                            Gabbard               Meng               Trone               call No. 232; ‘‘no’’ on rollcall No. 233; ‘‘yes’’ on       On Tuesday and Wednesday, the
                                            Gaetz                 Mfume              Underwood           rollcall No. 234; and ‘‘no’’ on rollcall No. 235.        House will meet at 10 a.m. for morning-
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                                            hour debate and 12 p.m. for legislative                    The House may also consider addi-                   it is my understanding she may be
                                            business.                                               tional legislation to address the                      leaving.
                                              On Thursday, the House will meet at                   coronavirus pandemic, as I have al-                      Mr. HOYER. It is a vicious rumor
                                            9 a.m. for legislative business.                        ready said. The House has passed two                   that has been spread abroad in the
                                              I advise Members that we still have                   different Heroes bills.                                country.
                                            to pass an omnibus and we have to pass                     We passed the bill on May 15th, 6                     Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I would
                                            a COVID–19 relief bill, and we will not                 months ago, to deal with this extraor-                 be happy to yield time to her if she
                                            adjourn the Congress until such time                    dinary crisis placing millions of Ameri-               would like to deny that rumor, but
                                            as we can accomplish those two objec-                   cans at risk, causing deep emotional                   while that may create some issues, I
                                            tives.                                                  and physical distress and a challenge                  would like to say that, if this is the
                                              I was hopeful that we would accom-                    not only to their health, but also to                  last time that we do this colloquy be-
                                            plish those objectives by next Thurs-                   their psychological welfare, and to edu-               fore the end of this year, it has been a
                                            day. Unfortunately, things are not                      cating our children and keeping our                    true pleasure to work with Shuwanza
                                            moving as rapidly as I think they                       schools safe and providing the re-                     Goff.
                                            ought to—I would like them to, but as                   sources necessary that, if we can get                    My whole staff has enjoyed working
                                            they ought to be moving—so that                         children back in school—which I think                  with her, and especially on those areas
                                            Members need to be advised that they                    all of us want to do—that we can ac-                   where we agree—the CARES Act and
                                            need to keep their schedules very, very                 complish that objective.                               USMCA come to mind as recent major
                                            flexible until such time as we pass both                   The House has also passed, on Octo-                 accomplishments that this legislative
                                            of those pieces of legislation.                         ber 1, some 2 months ago, a $2.2 trillion              body has done together, Republicans
                                              We will, in addition, consider several                                                                       and Democrats—and she, I know, has
                                                                                                    bill. That was not taken up by the Sen-
                                            bills under suspension of the rules. The                                                                       been that conduit who works with our
                                                                                                    ate. The Senate has passed no legisla-
                                            complete list of suspensions will be an-                                                                       staff on the Republican side. We con-
                                                                                                    tion since May 15th. They did not con-
                                            nounced by the close of business today.                                                                        sidered it a true joy to work with her.
                                              I will say something further on sus-                  sider our bill either time, neither the
                                                                                                    Heroes 1 bill nor the Heroes 2.                        She doesn’t schedule every bill I ask
                                            pensions. Somebody said: Oh, well, we
                                                                                                       It is unfortunate, in my view, that                 her to schedule, but I will blame that
                                            are not passing important bills.
                                              That is not accurate. Somehow, when                   Senate Republicans have failed to act,                 on the majority leader, not on
                                            we have agreement, it is not looked as                  even if they didn’t act on what we                     Shuwanza.
                                            important. On suspensions, it simply                    wanted to do. I am pleased that the                      Mr. Speaker, if I can, in all serious-
                                            means we have an agreement between                      Speaker and Senate majority leader                     ness, say, it has truly been a treat and
                                            the parties that we can pass those bills                spoke yesterday. I have spoken to him                  a joy, and she is one of the people who
                                            because they are bipartisan and the                     three times this week, and I hope that                 makes this place work when it does
                                            overwhelming majority of Members                        we can get an agreement. The House                     work.
                                            agree on them. So we are passing bills                  stands ready to act next week.                           We can always talk about the things
                                            that are good bills but not controver-                     Lastly, as everybody understands,                   that we would like to achieve that we
                                            sial, and that is a good thing.                         when you get to the end of a session,                  can’t, but there are many important
                                              But we will consider several bills                    we don’t contemplate everything that                   things we achieve, like those impor-
                                            under suspension. As I said, the com-                   might be on the agenda, so other pieces                tant pieces of legislation I talked
                                            plete list will be available at the close               of legislation may be on the agenda                    about and many others that don’t get
                                            of business today.                                      next week or the week thereafter.                      that same kind of attention, but they
                                              The House will consider the fiscal                       Again, I reiterate, I am very hopeful               wouldn’t happen without the work and
                                            year 2021 National Defense Authoriza-                   that we can get this business done by                  the great leadership that Shuwanza has
                                            tion Act conference report. I am very                   next week.                                             demonstrated here. She will be missed
                                            pleased that we have a bipartisan, bi-                     Mr. Speaker, the reason I scheduled                 here, and I just wanted to mention
                                            cameral agreement on NDAA and look                      the 11th as the CR day is because I                    that.
                                            forward to it overwhelmingly passing                    wanted to make sure we could get                         I know the gentleman feels probably
                                            both Chambers next week and, if nec-                    Members home. With the COVID crisis,                   even stronger, because she has worked
                                            essary, overriding a threatened veto by                 the pandemic has exploded.                             for him for the whole time I have been
                                            President Trump.                                           Members ought not to be aggregating                 in leadership, but, I think, going back
                                              This is a critically important bill to                here on the House floor or aggregating                 to maybe 2008.
                                            pass. It always passes, and I am hopeful                here in Washington. They ought to be                     Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gen-
                                            that we will come together on this bill.                home. And if we got out on the 11th—                   tleman.
                                            It was a tough conference but a good                    I want to get through on the 10th so we                  Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I may get
                                            conference, and the result, I think, can                can send a bill to the Senate. However,                into this next week, and I am hopeful
                                            be supported by both sides of the aisle,                if we left on the 11th, it will be 14 days             that the gentleman is right that we
                                            signed, obviously, by the Senate Re-                    before Christmas, and, therefore, if                   don’t have a colloquy next week, that
                                            publican chairman and our chairman                      Members leaving Washington had to                      we would have completed our business,
                                            here in the House.                                      quarantine themselves, they would                      as I have been talking about.
                                              As Members know, the continuing                       have sufficient time to do so so that                    Mr. Speaker, I have been blessed, the
                                            resolution expires on December 11;                      they could be with their families on                   House has been blessed, the country
                                            therefore, the authority for spending to                Christmas Day.                                         has been blessed by Shuwanza Goff’s
                                            keep government running will expire                        I would hope that everyone on the                   leadership on this floor on my behalf
                                            on the 11th. The Committee on Appro-                    Committee on Appropriations, the                       and on the majority’s behalf, working
                                            priations is hard at work on reaching                   leadership—myself        included—would                closely with the minority. And I know
                                            an agreement on an omnibus, and I                       feel the urgency of passing this needed                that Shuwanza would want me to say
                                            hope to bring that to the floor as early                legislation.                                           that she looks forward to the same
                                            as possible. I am hopeful that will be                     Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman                  kind of cooperation in her new job that
                                            next week.                                              for yielding.                                          she has gotten in her old job, and if the
                                              Frankly, I have had a discussion with                    Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I thank                   gentleman wants to assure her of that,
                                            Senator MCCONNELL. I am told there is                   the gentleman.                                         I will yield to him.
                                            no agreement that we cannot make on                        There are a few items relating to leg-                Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I will
                                            the 11th that will be easier to make on                 islation that I want to bring up with                  give this assurance to the majority




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                                            the 18th, which is the end of the fol-                  the gentleman, but before that, I did                  leader, that if you are looking for a re-
                                            lowing week. I would urge Members,                      want to mention that it is my under-                   placement, I would be happy to provide
                                            however, to ensure that they are avail-                 standing that the floor director for the               recommendations and even participate
                                            able for the week of the 14th if we have                majority leader, Ms. Shuwanza Goff—                    in the interview process, if that would
                                            not completed our business by next                      the last thing I would want to do is em-               be helpful to the gentleman from
                                            week.                                                   barrass her here on the House floor, but               Maryland.



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                                              Mr. HOYER. The gentleman is most                      ment’s response to assisting people                    is because she was waiting on a ‘‘new
                                            generous.                                               with ALS be quick as well.                             President.’’ I hope that was a quote
                                              Mr. SCALISE. I think the generosity                     Mr. Speaker, as we know, what this                   that was made out of context or maybe
                                            probably ends there with today’s col-                   bill does is it provides an acceleration               needs to be revised.
                                            loquy. I am sure we will have that op-                  for people who are suffering from and                                    b 1330
                                            portunity next week to have a longer                    afflicted with ALS to get assistance.
                                            conversation, but I truly do want to                    So, hopefully, the House will pass it                    There are millions of people that are
                                            pass that on to Shuwanza, and not just                  and will send it to the President.                     literally facing the elimination of their
                                            on behalf of myself, but on behalf of                     I appreciate the gentleman’s cospon-                 livelihoods, and we have a bill that, if
                                            the minority leader, Mr. MCCARTHY,                      sorship of the bill.                                   it was put on the floor today, yester-
                                            and his staff, as well as mine, and all of                Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I thank                    day, or September, when we first had
                                            us in leadership who get to work with                   the gentleman.                                         this conversation, there would be hun-
                                            her.                                                      Mr. Speaker, as relates to the sched-                dreds of thousands of businesses still
                                              Mr. Speaker, I do want to mention,                    ule next week, as well as the schedule                 open today that are now bankrupt,
                                            on the schedule next week, one of the                   we have had this week, I want to bring                 that will never open again. Every day
                                            items that I know we have worked on                     up a piece of legislation that we have                 we wait, more businesses don’t reopen.
                                            together and talked about that I be-                    talked about here in this colloquy and                   Clearly, we are negotiating to try to
                                            lieve the gentleman has scheduled for                   in other venues for months now, and                    get an agreement on bigger issues. We
                                            next week is S. 578, which is the ALS                   that is the bill by Congressman                        are not there. We weren’t there last
                                            Disability Insurance Access Act, some-                  CHABOT, H.R. 8265, which is the Pay-                   month; we weren’t there the month be-
                                            thing that we have worked on, a num-                    check Protection Program Extension                     fore. The Senate has tried to take up
                                            ber of these items, for people with                     Act.                                                   votes on things. It wasn’t the Repub-
                                            ALS.                                                      We have seen over these last few                     licans; it was the Democrats that
                                              The Steve Gleason Act was one of                      months our small businesses have                       blocked those bills coming up. This, by
                                            those items we worked on a few years                    struggled tremendously. Some indus-                    the way, was one of those in the pack-
                                            ago, passed to help people with ALS,                    tries have done better during this pan-                age that would have been voted on by
                                            and has been a tremendous, tremen-                      demic where they have seen increased                   the Senate, if not for Senate Demo-
                                            dous benefit to people struggling with                  sales for various reasons, but we have                 crats blocking even the debate on the
                                            ALS.                                                    mostly seen and heard from so many of                  Senate floor. So they never had that
                                              Steve Gleason is a constituent and a                  those businesses and industries that                   debate.
                                            dear friend, somebody whom we have                      have been devastated, some harder                        On this floor, just today, we saw a
                                            worked with on many things. He re-                      than others, but so many devastated to                 bill to legalize marijuana. You saw
                                            ceived earlier this year—it seems like                  the point of bankruptcy. Daily, we see                 items in there where it would give ad-
                                            years ago, but just January of this                     stories of businesses that closed their                ditional money to people in the mari-
                                            year, he was the recipient of the Con-                  doors for good.                                        juana industry. This is something that
                                            gressional Gold Medal, and deservedly                     Mr. Speaker, in the State of New                     Congress, I am sure, will continue to
                                            so.                                                     York alone, it was reported that one-                  debate.
                                              He and I were communicating earlier                   third of all small businesses—one-                       But there is a pandemic where,
                                            this week about this legislation, which                 third—will never open again. We came                   today, we have businesses that are
                                            I am a cosponsor of, and I just want to                 together to do the CARES Act, to pass                  shutting their doors. Tomorrow, busi-
                                            thank the gentleman for scheduling                      that lifeline to so many small busi-                   nesses will go bankrupt forever, small
                                            that for the floor next week.                           nesses—saved probably 50 million jobs                  businesses. We can help them. Not with
                                              One of those areas, as you were talk-                 in America, saved millions of small                    a new program that we need to nego-
                                            ing about earlier, that might not get a                 businesses—but it expired; and when it                 tiate the details over, but something
                                            lot of attention but an issue that both                 expired, we learned a lot more about                   we already did that was so highly suc-
                                            Republicans     and    Democrats    have                where our economy was at that time.                    cessful that we have a track record to
                                            worked on is to help people with ALS                      When we passed it, it was at the very                show what it can do.
                                            who, right now, under current law,                      beginning of the pandemic. We now saw                    Our small banks, local community
                                            even after the diagnosis with ALS—as                    over those months which businesses                     banks, were part of that process and
                                            we know, it is just a devastating diag-                 were doing better, which weren’t, and                  are ready to go again. Again, we don’t
                                            nosis—have to wait 5 months to get the                  came back in September with a piece                    need to reinvent the wheel here. This is
                                            normal benefits that they are entitled                  of legislation that would free up money                an existing program that has got exist-
                                            to. And time is very, very critical to                  that is not going to have to be bor-                   ing, remaining money, but the program
                                            people with ALS. This eliminates that                   rowed, money that is actually sitting                  is frozen and expired. This bill just re-
                                            5-month gap where they would have to                    in that account, frozen, $137 billion                  news it and could pass on the suspen-
                                            wait, one of those additional occasions                 that we already appropriated. But the                  sion calendar, and it still hasn’t been
                                            where it takes an act of Congress to fix                program expired so it can’t be used                    brought up.
                                            this.                                                   anymore unless we change the law.                        While we are negotiating other
                                              The Senate acted, and quickly, now,                     So, we are not talking about creating                things, why not release this hostage
                                            the House will be acting to address this                a new program. We are talking about                    and let this bill pass. It could have
                                            deficiency that needs to be fixed. I                    going back to a program that was                       been done today. It wasn’t a lack of
                                            think you will see both sides come to-                  maybe one of the most successful                       time. When we are debating legalizing
                                            gether with a very large vote, but I                    things that we have done to help people                marijuana instead of saving small busi-
                                            thank the gentleman for scheduling                      in need—not just those small busi-                     nesses, that is a misplaced priority of
                                            that for the floor next week.                           nesses, but the millions, 50-plus million              this Congress. We should have come to-
                                              I yield to the gentleman, if you have                 people whose livelihoods depend on                     gether months ago. September 16, it
                                            anything to add on that.                                those jobs.                                            was introduced. September 17, I
                                              Mr. HOYER. Well, I was pleased to                       The bill was brought forward, had a                  brought it up to the majority leader at
                                            schedule this. Obviously, as you know,                  lot of bipartisan interest, but for var-               this colloquy. The following week
                                            it passed the Senate the other day.                     ious reasons hasn’t been scheduled on                  brought it up again.
                                            Hopefully, we will pass it on suspension                this House floor. And there were re-                     Then we filed a discharge petition.
                                            next week and it will be sent to the                    ports that maybe it was tied to waiting                You had, I think, 23 Democrats sign a




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                                            President. Hopefully, the President                     on the election or whatever other                      letter saying they would sign that dis-
                                            will sign it.                                           things.                                                charge petition if we didn’t get a bipar-
                                              Obviously, ALS is just a terrible, ter-                 In fact, the Speaker of the House,                   tisan agreement, recognizing that the
                                            rible disease, and a disease that acts                  just today, made a comment that one                    Heroes Act is not a bipartisan agree-
                                            very, very quickly, which means that                    of the reasons a certain relief package                ment. Unfortunately, not one of those
                                            there is a premium on the govern-                       bill wasn’t brought to the House floor                 Members who signed the letter saying



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                                            they would sign the discharge have                      it in both bills we passed. It wasn’t a                talking to Senator MCCONNELL towards
                                            signed the discharge. Talk is cheap                     question that they were partisan or not                that end.
                                            around here.                                            partisan. They weren’t taken up in the                   The Senators are working on an ef-
                                              Livelihoods are being lost. Businesses                United States Senate. We passed them.                  fort to get that done. I am hopeful they
                                            are shuttering for good. Why can’t this                 They were not taken up.                                are successful. The Speaker and Mr.
                                            bill be scheduled for the floor while we                  Yes, the Senate leader offered a bill                SCHUMER said it was a place that they
                                            work on the other things that we are                    that every economist with whom I                       could negotiate from, which means we
                                            not in agreement on? This is something                  have talked said was not substantive                   are closer than we have been, and I
                                            we are in agreement on. But it won’t be                 enough, not sufficient resources to stop               hope it gets done.
                                            scheduled for the floor.                                the hemorrhaging, and to help fight                      Mr. SCALISE. Let me remind the
                                              Maybe we can get an agreement to                      COVID–19.                                              gentleman that in the CARES Act, we
                                            schedule that Monday when we are                          So I tell my friend, we are for that                 addressed many of those issues that
                                            coming in at 2 o’clock to vote on other                 bill. What we are not for is forgetting                the gentleman already brought up,
                                            items. This would be something that                     the kids, the families, the hospital                   starting with the States.
                                            would get 400-plus votes, if it was just                workers, the researchers, the States,                    In fact, I don’t know of a single State
                                            scheduled.                                              the localities. We are not for forgetting              in this country who has spent all of the
                                              I yield to the gentleman.                             them. We believe that if we pass one                   money we sent them. Educational op-
                                              Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank                       part of a multifaceted response to                     portunities for schools to reopen safely
                                            the gentleman for his observations. He                  COVID–19 and the implication for our                   and educate kids are being denied in
                                            is right; we are for this.                              economy, that will not be what our                     some places but not in others, but it is
                                              We are also for making sure that                      economy, nor our people, need.                         not from a lack of money. There is not
                                            children have food on their tables. We                    We would ask you to talk to the Sen-                 a single school system I have heard
                                            are also supportive of making sure that                 ate or to offer your own bill. Offer your              from, where we sent them the money—
                                            education facilities have the money to                  own bill that deals with all of those                  and by the way, they still have mil-
                                            keep their venues safe and to keep edu-                 millions of people that I just ref-                    lions, and in some cases, billions of
                                            cation flowing. We are also for making                  erenced that are in deep, deep distress.               those dollars sitting in their account,
                                            sure that childcare is available to par-                We need to deal with the small busi-                   idle, that can be used today to safely
                                            ents who can go back to work, when                      nesses, and we do. We need to deal with                reopen schools.
                                            and if their children go back to school.                                                                         If the State chooses not to do it or if
                                                                                                    the unemployed and we do.
                                              We are also for having critical money                   We have a lot of things expiring on                  the school system chooses not to do it,
                                            for testing and tracing and, yes, for de-               December 31, PPP—your bill, does not                   that is on them. But they are denying
                                            livering the vaccinations. Yes, we are                  deal with any of that. We need to deal                 those kids opportunities. We are seeing
                                            for that, and we are also for States and                with all of it. We ought to do it. Mr.                 report after report, scientific studies,
                                            localities that are hemorrhaging rev-                                                                          the American Academy of Pediatrics,
                                                                                                    CHABOT’s bill ought to be a part of
                                            enue to have the resources to continue                                                                         talking about the damage that is being
                                                                                                    that, and it will be, because we are
                                                                                                                                                           done to our young children by being de-
                                            to be on the front line of fighting the                 committed to that. But we are also
                                                                                                                                                           nied the opportunity to go back to
                                            battle against COVID–19.                                committed to not forgetting all of
                                                                                                                                                           school in classroom and learn. It is
                                              We are also for resources, not only to                those people and elements that I men-
                                                                                                                                                           devastating to those kids.
                                            have created the vaccine—almost all of                  tioned.                                                  Suicides are up and opioid abuse is
                                            which is being funded by the Federal                      I want to help the airlines. And,                    up, because of all of these things, and
                                            Government—but we are also for mak-                     hopefully, that will be in any deal that               it is the small businesses that are pay-
                                            ing sure we can deliver that vaccine                    we come to. I want to help the res-                    ing the biggest price.
                                            and have vaccinations as well as hav-                   taurants. These are people who,                          If you look, people that are getting
                                            ing a vaccine.                                          through no fault of their own, are dev-                unemployment insurance at the State
                                              We are very strongly for helping the                  astated.                                               level—we did enhanced unemployment
                                            extraordinary number of unemployed,                       So I tell my friend, he is right, but                insurance for a period of time, and in
                                            who are on unemployment insurance,                      only partially so. He is right that we                 most cases we were paying people more
                                            and who, at the end of this month, are                  ought to be helping the small busi-                    money not to work than they were
                                            going to find it goes away. We are for                  nesses. But I don’t think there is a                   making before they lost their job.
                                            having an additional enhancement of                     small businessman in America that                        What they ask me is not that they
                                            that unemployment insurance, which                      would say let the nutrition issue go, as               want to stay on unemployment. They
                                            so many economists will tell you from                   we see lines of cars and lines of people               want to go back to work. They want
                                            the CARES Act, was absolutely essen-                    getting food boxes so they can put food                their business to be alive when they go
                                            tial to keep the economy afloat.                        on their table for their kids and them-                back to work. But if a small business
                                              And the fact that we have kept the                    selves, people who never, ever, ex-                    closes for good, the cost to us is going
                                            economy afloat, as shown by—appar-                      pected in their lives to be in a food                  to be dramatically higher.
                                            ently, the stock market thinks we are                   line. I think the small businessmen                      If we can right now throw that life-
                                            okay—the millions and millions and                      would say, take care of them. I think                  line, again, to those businesses—not
                                            millions of families who are in deep                    the small businessmen would say, I                     with a new program, not with things
                                            distress and are not okay. I am ap-                     haven’t been able to pay taxes, and I                  that we don’t agree on, like $900 billion
                                            palled by the fact that we have not                     know the State is still operating hos-                 to bail out failed States, which is the
                                            acted.                                                  pitals, still fixing the roads, still hiring           Heroes Act. We already spent hundreds
                                              We have acted twice. You say it was                   police and fire, and hiring nurses in                  of billions of dollars that we gave to
                                            partisan. That is true; you chose not to                public hospitals. They need help, too.                 States. Like I said, I think every single
                                            vote for it. It wasn’t much different                     We are all in this together. That is                 State has some of that money left.
                                            than the CARES Act, which you did                       my response to the gentleman, Mr.                      Some have billions of dollars of that
                                            vote for. But, apparently, shortly after                Speaker.                                               money left.
                                            we passed the Heroes Act, your leader,                    We want to have a comprehensive bill                   So the idea that we are going to hold
                                            Mr. MCCARTHY, said, Let’s wait and see                  that will deal with a comprehensive                    up relief to small business, who are
                                            what happens. And Senator MCCONNELL                     threat to our economy and to the                       closing every day, hundreds of thou-
                                            said, Let the States go bankrupt.                       health of our people and to the welfare                sands—a third of every small business
                                              Well, they are on that road. And we                   of our people. We think that is the re-                in the State of New York is gone for




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                                            have seen what happened by waiting.                     sponsible thing to do.                                 good. How many more need to die be-
                                            We have thousands of our fellow citi-                     I am hopeful that we can get an                      fore this problem is recognized by this
                                            zens dying every week, now over 260,000                 agreement in the near term. When I                     Congress?
                                            Americans; millions afflicted.                          say, ‘‘the near term,’’ by next week. I                  So those States are sitting on money,
                                              So I tell my friend, Mr. Speaker, that                have been talking to Senator MCCON-                    and the gentleman wants to hold up re-
                                            we care about PPP, and we took care of                  NELL towards that end. The Speaker is                  lief to small businesses to give another



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                                            $900 billion to bail out States, not for                  We know that is going to lead to                     their tables every morning and every
                                            the COVID damage, but the problems                      businesses that will never come back.                  evening. I didn’t hear him talk about
                                            they had before. That is what the He-                   And we have a bill ready to go that                    the unemployed, the 12 million Amer-
                                            roes Act disagreement was about. We                     would get massive bipartisan support                   ican workers who are going to run out
                                            agreed on giving States money. They                     without a new dime of money, money                     of unemployment as of the end of this
                                            still have some of that money, and it                   sitting frozen in an account that would                month.
                                            can be used to reopen schools safely,                   help those small businesses. The cri-                    Mr. Speaker, I did hear him talk
                                            still today.                                            teria is you have to have at least 25                  about the failed States. Let me tell
                                              What is not there right now is relief                 percent loss.                                          you, Maryland is not a failed State,
                                            for those small businesses. So when                       So your small businesses that are                    and our Governor is a Republican. His
                                            you look at all of these different                      doing well today—again, we know                        name is Hogan. His father served in
                                            things—the vaccine, they are not wait-                  there are some that are doing better                   this body. He, along with Mr. Cuomo,
                                            ing on approving a vaccine based on                     today than they were a year ago, but                   the Governor of New York, said the
                                            more money coming in. We put money                      we also know some are about to close                   States, meaning all the States, need
                                            in the CARES Act, and President                         for good. We can help them, not with                   substantial assistance or they are
                                            Trump spent it effectively on Oper-                     new policy that we are not in agree-                   going to have to make substantial
                                            ation Warp Speed to get us to the point                 ment on. That is where the negotia-                    cuts. In my State, we have made cuts,
                                            where we have not one, but two—Pfizer                   tions are continuing to go back and                    and we are a wealthy State. We have
                                            and Moderna—ready to go.                                forth on.                                              made cuts, which have undermined the
                                              The FDA is about to approve two dif-                    But if there is something we all agree               States’s ability to respond as robustly
                                            ferent vaccines, and it is being mass                   on, do we really need to hold that hos-                as they need to do to COVID–19.
                                            produced today. We are not waiting on                   tage, when that means that many of                       Now, the President wants to talk
                                            money to mass produce it. The Depart-                   those businesses will never come back?                 about failed States. What he really
                                            ment of Defense is actually involved in                   We could have done this in Sep-                      means is blue States, Mr. Speaker.
                                            helping distribute it. Airlines have al-                tember. It was brought up in Sep-                      That is what he means—large States
                                            ready been contracted to get it out.                    tember. It is not a new item.                          like New York; large States like Cali-
                                            Some need to be air-conditioned more                      How many thousands of businesses                     fornia. By the way, Florida and Texas
                                            than others. All of that is put in place.               died from the day that that bill was in-               are in the same position. Now, Texas
                                              If we need more money, we will come                   troduced to today and will die again                   has a greater surplus. But failed States
                                            together and get more money. But a                      between now and Monday?                                is a fake news item.
                                            vaccine is not waiting on us to send                      It can be put on the schedule Mon-                     Mr. Speaker, what we should do is
                                            them more money. We need to get it                      day. It is not going to stop the negotia-              come together and have an agreement.
                                            out. We need the FDA to follow their                    tions on the other things. There are                   Now, we can pass something here, and
                                            process, which they are doing. They are                 other things that we are both in agree-                we did pass something here. The Re-
                                            the gold standard in the world for ap-                  ment on that aren’t part of that bill.                 publicans chose to join us, Mr. Speak-
                                            proving vaccines, and it is unheard of,                 Bring that as a stand-alone. Let’s bring               er, on the first three bills. One was an
                                            in the history of mankind, for a virus,                                                                        $8.3 billion bill responding to $1.2 tril-
                                                                                                    each of those items that we are in
                                            that we didn’t even know of until a                                                                            lion or $2.2 trillion that the President
                                                                                                    agreement on.
                                            year and two days ago in the world, to                    But the idea that we hold everything                 asked for. In other words, four times
                                            now be on the brink of not one, but two                 hostage to things that aren’t going to                 what the President asked for. In terms
                                            FDA-approved vaccines. That is hap-                                                                            of what we have done, that seems like
                                                                                                    happen, hundreds of billions to failed
                                            pening because of what we did coming                                                                           small potatoes, a lot of money.
                                                                                                    States, giving checks to people who
                                            together with the CARES Act and then                                                                             But it was clear that the administra-
                                                                                                    aren’t here legally, is that really a pri-             tion’s response to this crisis was woe-
                                            President Trump’s Operation Warp                        ority?
                                            Speed.                                                                                                         fully inadequate, represented by that
                                                                                                      Is that really the things we are get-
                                              These aren’t items that are waiting                                                                          first bill that they sent to us, knowing
                                                                                                    ting called on every day?
                                            on our relief. What is waiting is relief                                                                       full well that it would not even come
                                                                                                      The folks that are on unemployment
                                            for small businesses.                                                                                          close to meeting the needs. So we in-
                                                                                                    want to be able to go back to their job.
                                              Now, the Heroes Act, again, it was a                                                                         creased it about 400 percent. The
                                                                                                    If the company is dead and gone, there                 Speaker then negotiated with Mr.
                                            partisan exercise, not because it was
                                                                                                    will be nothing to go back to. And so                  Mnuchin and came up with two addi-
                                            mostly like the CARES Act. It was
                                                                                                    we are working on so many items that                   tional bills that were passed in a bipar-
                                            very different from the CARES Act. In
                                                                                                    we are in agreement on. We have given                  tisan fashion.
                                            the Heroes Act, there are billions of
                                                                                                    money to our health experts to con-                      And, very frankly, the President told
                                            dollars in that bill to give checks to
                                                                                                    tinue to focus on the virus, to continue               us this was about to go away. Not to
                                            people here illegally. That wasn’t part
                                                                                                    to get the vaccine, and we may have                    worry. It is going to go away. It will go
                                            of any agreement. It wasn’t in the
                                                                                                    another two—could be four—vaccines                     away tomorrow maybe or next week. It
                                            CARES Act. That is new policy that is
                                                                                                    by the end of this year. That is some-                 is going to go away when the weather
                                            not going to be signed into law.
                                                                                                    thing we all ought to applaud because                  gets warm. And Dr. Fauci said: No, Mr.
                                              If you want to negotiate and hold
                                                                                                    of what we did when we came together.                  President, that won’t happen. So, es-
                                            small businesses hostage on that, we
                                                                                                      But here is an area where we already                 sentially, the President dismissed Dr.
                                            may never get relief for small busi-
                                                                                                    came together. It was so successful                    Fauci as a principal adviser. Thank-
                                            nesses. But that was one of the items
                                                                                                    that that money now is frozen, and                     fully, Mr. Biden, President-elect Biden,
                                            in the Heroes Act where we had no
                                                                                                    those businesses that did well are still               is going to bring him back as the prin-
                                            agreement.
                                                                                                    doing well. The ones that aren’t will or               cipal adviser, one of the great experts
                                                             b 1345                                 will not be alive in a month from now,                 in the world on vaccines and on infec-
                                              But the areas where we had agree-                     based on whether or not we confront                    tious diseases.
                                            ment, can we at least agree to pass the                 this. It is not new policy. It is some-                  So I am somewhat frustrated that we
                                            things we have agreement on?                            thing we already agreed on, and some-                  focus on one facet. But I will tell you,
                                              And what did we have more agree-                      thing we already celebrated as a suc-                  if those 12 million people become un-
                                            ment on than anything? The PPP,                         cess. Let’s do that one more time while                employed without assistance, they
                                            proven to be so successful that literally               we negotiate on the things we are in                   won’t have any money to spend on
                                            every day we hear from small busi-                      disagreement with.                                     small businesses. If those States don’t




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                                            nesses that say they would not be alive                   Mr. Speaker, I would just suggest                    have the ability to operate properly,
                                            today if not for the PPP. But we also                   that, and I yield to the gentleman.                    that will hurt small businesses. If the
                                            hear from small businesses every day                      Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I thank                      transportation system faltered, it will
                                            who are about to close.                                 the gentleman for suggesting that. I                   hurt small businesses.
                                              Some States are talking about shut-                   didn’t hear him talk about the children                  Mr. Speaker, my point is that we are
                                            ting their whole State down again.                      who are having trouble getting food on                 e pluribus unum: Out of many, one. We



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                                            are a nation reliant upon one another,                  take care of the other problems, the                   you haven’t even used all that money,
                                            and the harm to one results in the                      small businesses ultimately will not be                you can’t use that as an excuse for not
                                            harm to the other. Therefore, we be-                    able to survive either. We are in this                 doing it, and saying: I am waiting for
                                            lieve that there ought to be a com-                     together.                                              you to give me more money, when you
                                            prehensive piece of legislation, as there                 We do not have a policy on this side                 still have money remaining.
                                            was overwhelmingly supported.                           of the aisle saying: You are on your                     And I agree with the gentleman on
                                              But the Republicans, after CARES,                     own, children; you are on your own, un-                the school lunch program. The thing
                                            and when we passed the Heroes Act in                    employed; you are on your own, States,                 there is that we don’t give a supple-
                                            May, passed it on May 15, they thought                  localities, municipals, small towns,                   ment to schools in normal times. These
                                            everything was hunky-dory and they                      small counties.                                        are not normal times. But in normal
                                            walked away.                                              That is not our policy. We are in this               times, schools feed kids at lunch with
                                              Mr. MCCONNELL said the States can                     together, and we want to help all of                   the existing budgets they have. They
                                            go bankrupt. Think of the consequence                   those in distress.                                     don’t wait for us to send extra money
                                            that would have had. And, yes, we gave                    Mr. Speaker, I don’t know that I will                to them to feed the kids.
                                            them some money under CARES. No-                        have anything more to say on this par-                   If they are not educating the kids in
                                            body, when we voted on CARES,                           ticular item, but I am appreciative of                 the classroom, they are still taking
                                            thought we would be where we are                        Mr. CHABOT’s bill. I hope that his bill is             that money. I haven’t seen them rebate
                                            today. Nobody, except Dr. Fauci, and                    included, and I hope that we can pass                  the money to those families in commu-
                                            some other experts, scientists, medical                 something next week to help all of                     nities.
                                            personnel, said: Look, this thing is                    those in deep distress. That would be                    So what are they doing with that
                                            going to come back, that is what hap-                   good for our country. It is the right                  money?
                                            pens with these pandemics. They have                    thing to do. It is the moral thing to do,                If you bring the kids back and edu-
                                            an original assault, and then they                      and I hope we do it. I will facilitate it              cate them safely in the classroom,
                                            come back. And they came back with a                    when we get to an agreement. I thank                   which the protocols allow for in any
                                            vengeance, and people are losing their                  the gentleman.                                         community, high risk, low risk, if you
                                            lives.                                                    Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I thank                    have got a high outbreak, there are dif-
                                              And the failure to pass a comprehen-                  the gentleman, too. In terms of our                    ferent ways to handle each community.
                                            sive bill—we agree, we want to help                     children, we know sending them back                    The CDC has given them guidelines.
                                            these small businesses. Heroes 1 helped                 to school safely, the protocols are out                The Academy of Pediatrics have given
                                            small businesses. Heroes 2, you didn’t                  there. Child nutrition programs are ad-                them guidelines. Some school systems
                                            vote for those. You said they were par-                 ministered in our schools. That is not                 have chosen not to follow them and
                                            tisan. I am not sure what was partisan                  happening because the kids are in                      leave the kids at home, but they are
                                            about them. They were no more par-                      those systems where they are not safe-                 still taking the money.
                                            tisan than the CARES Act was par-                       ly reopened. Those kids aren’t able to
                                                                                                                                                                             b 1400
                                            tisan. Mr. Speaker, the difference was,                 get the school lunch programs.
                                            very frankly, the Republicans decided                     Mr. HOYER. Will the gentleman                          There has never been a better argu-
                                            they were going to vote for CARES,                      yield?                                                 ment for school choice and letting par-
                                            and then they decided, we have done                       Mr. SCALISE. I yield to the gen-                     ents choose. If one school system is
                                            enough. And we have been twisting in                    tleman from Maryland.                                  willing to educate your child safely and
                                            the wind now for 6 months since we                        Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I don’t                      the other is not, why shouldn’t you be
                                            passed Heroes.                                          know about your school system, but                     able to take that money and send your
                                              I don’t want to make a speculation of                 my school system is still providing                    child to the place that is willing to do
                                            how many hundreds of thousands or                       meals for kids either as a pick-up at                  it safely for you?
                                            tens of thousands of lives may have                     the school or delivery at some site, be-                 It is not a question of the money. It
                                            been saved had we passed Heroes 1, or                   cause that is a critical problem, but                  is a question of the will to do it.
                                            we acted much sooner out of the ad-                     they need money to do that. We know                      But when we talk about those busi-
                                            ministration. But I am hopeful we can                   that food banks are stretched, and we                  nesses and what was in the CARES Act
                                            get rid of all this ‘‘who struck John,                  need to deal with that program. That is                and what wasn’t, the CARES Act was
                                            you did it, I did it, who did it,’’ and                 my point. It is not just small busi-                   not the Heroes Act. I think the gen-
                                            come to grips in the next 7 days, maybe                 nesses. It is that nutrition program.                  tleman knows some of the differences.
                                            14 days. There is no reason why we                        I just wanted to clarify that in my                  I will tell the gentleman a few of the
                                            can’t come to an agreement.                             school districts, we are delivering                    differences.
                                              There is a bipartisan group in the                    meals, notwithstanding the fact that                     What is in the Heroes Act that is not
                                            United States Senate, Republicans and                   schools are shut down.                                 in the CARES Act that we all voted for
                                            Democrats, who have come up with a                        Let me say something else just as an                 was letting thousands, an unknown
                                            bill, $908 billion. Now, that is a lot of               aside. Three of my counties have a ma-                 number of thousands, of criminals out
                                            money. But what they try to do is deal                  jority, if not unanimous, county com-                  of prison. I have never gotten a
                                            with all of the issues that I have                      missioners who are all Republican.                     straight answer on how many thou-
                                            raised, and they do. Maybe not as much                  They have all voted to keep the school                 sands of criminals would be let out of
                                            as I think we ought to do, maybe not as                 systems virtual, as have my other                      prison or why that even needs to be in
                                            specifically targeted as I think, but it                counties.                                              a COVID relief package. But that is in
                                            is a basis for agreement. And I hope the                  I represent five counties, essentially,              the Heroes Act, which was not in the
                                            Senate passes it. I hope they pass it                   or parts thereof. They have all voted.                 CARES Act, and we are completely in
                                            next week and send it over to us.                       Hearing from parents and teachers, and                 disagreement on that.
                                              I guarantee you when they send it                     perhaps some students, they are all vir-                 Why it hasn’t been dropped out, who
                                            over to us, we will act on it. We won’t                 tual. They will need as much money to                  knows, but that is a choice the major-
                                            leave it sitting, as Heroes 1 and Heroes                continue virtuality as they will to get                ity made. Again, sending direct checks,
                                            2 have sat in the Senate for 6 months,                  kids back in school. They need extra                   billions of dollars in direct checks, to
                                            or 21⁄2 months. We won’t let it sit.                    resources to do that.                                  people that are here illegally was not
                                              Why?                                                    The $908 billion bill that is agreed or              in the CARES Act; it is in the Heroes
                                              Because the country is at risk. Our                   proposed by a bipartisan group in the                  Act. If we wanted to make it bipar-
                                            people are at risk. Our children are at                 Senate has money in that bill for those                tisan, drop those things out. But they




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                                            risk. Our families are at risk.                         programs.                                              haven’t been dropped out by the major-
                                              Mr. Speaker, as you so correctly                        Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, those                      ity, and here we have a program that
                                            point out, the whip points out that our                 schools already have access to the $150                we agree on.
                                            businesses are at risk. He is absolutely                billion that we sent the States that                     But in terms of the small businesses,
                                            right and we need to act. But if we only                they haven’t even already spent. If I                  the small businesses are dying on the
                                            act on small businesses and we don’t                    gave you money to do something and                     vine because some States are giving



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                                            mixed signals, changing rules, going                    children even though somebody who is                     If the gentleman has nothing else,
                                            backward, forward. In States like Cali-                 illegal is living in the household.                    then I would be happy to yield back.
                                            fornia, they are saying you can operate                    What they want to have done is no-                    Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I have
                                            as a liquor store or as a strip club but                body in that household got help. It is                 nothing else.
                                            not as a church. Even the Supreme                       just a difference of perspective. And I                  Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, I yield
                                            Court stepped in and said that is ludi-                 get it.                                                back the balance of my time.
                                            crous and that you can’t keep doing it.                    But let me tell you something. What
                                                                                                                                                                             f
                                              But you go to New York and so many                    you can’t get away from is, Mr. Speak-
                                            of these States where they are saying                   er, they have not passed a bill through                 RESIGNATION FROM THE HOUSE
                                            for safety protocols you have to shut                   the United States Senate. Why? Be-                           OF REPRESENTATIVES
                                            down and you can’t go to a restaurant,                  cause it would require compromise. Be-
                                                                                                                                                             The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr.
                                            and then you see the Governor of the                    cause you don’t have the votes, Mr.
                                                                                                                                                           HARDER of California) laid before the
                                            State at a restaurant without a mask.                   Speaker, in the Republican Party to
                                                                                                                                                           House the following resignation from
                                            But you can’t go. You see mayors in                     pass a bill without compromise. So
                                                                                                                                                           the House of Representatives:
                                            communities telling businesses they                     they have sent us no bill.
                                                                                                       Now, Mr. MCCONNELL can say all he                               HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
                                            can’t stay open or it is not safe to have                                                                                  Washington, DC, December 7, 2020.
                                            Thanksgiving with your family, and                      wants: Well, we need 60 votes, and they
                                                                                                                                                           Ms. NANCY PELOSI,
                                            you find out they are flying to other                   won’t give us 60 votes.                                Speaker, House of Representatives,
                                                                                                       He is right. And he won’t com-
                                            States to have Thanksgiving with their                                                                         Washington, DC.
                                                                                                    promise.                                                 DEAR SPEAKER PELOSI: I hereby submit my
                                            family.                                                    Your side, on a regular basis when
                                              This blatant hypocrisy by some of                                                                            resignation, effective Monday, December 7,
                                                                                                    you were in charge, couldn’t pass a lot                2020 at 12:00 p.m. EST, as the United States
                                            these leaders who are telling you that
                                                                                                    of pieces of legislation that had to be                Representative of the 8th District of Cali-
                                            you have to live your life one way and
                                                                                                    passed, and what did John Boehner do?                  fornia. Attached is the letter I submitted to
                                            they are living their lives a different                                                                        the California Secretary of State.
                                                                                                    Walked over here and said: Madam
                                            way, and hiding behind protocols that                   Leader, Mr. Whip, can you help us?                           Sincerely,
                                            don’t exist, that is driving people nuts.                  And we did. President Bush asked for                                                 PAUL COOK.
                                            The businesses are dying because of it.                 TARP. He couldn’t get the votes on
                                              The trust in government gets de-                      your side. Where did he come? To our                                HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
                                            pleted in those places because they are                                                                                     Washington, DC, December 7, 2020.
                                                                                                    side. We passed it, which saved the                    Hon. ALEX PADILLA,
                                            watching. And it is not isolated. I wish                country from a depression.
                                            it was just once or twice. I wish it was                                                                       Secretary of State, California Department of
                                                                                                       So when you are talking about all                        State, Sacramento, CA.
                                            never going on. But it is over and over                 this stuff, we sent two bills. You didn’t                DEAR SECRETARY PADILLA: I hereby submit
                                            again, yesterday and today another                      like them, fine. Pass something                        my resignation, effective Monday, December
                                            story comes out of a local leader or a                  through the Senate. But it would have                  7, 2020 at 12:00 p.m. EST, as the United States
                                            governor telling you that you can’t do                  required compromise, and Mr. MCCON-                    Representative of the 8th District of Cali-
                                            something, and they are doing it. They                  NELL offered no such compromise.                       fornia. Attached is the letter I submitted to
                                            didn’t think they were going to get                        I think, frankly, we ought to move                  the Speaker of the United States House of
                                            caught doing it. My God, that has to                                                                           Representatives.
                                                                                                    on because I don’t think we can beat
                                            end. The hypocrisy has to end.                                                                                        Sincerely,
                                                                                                    this horse anymore. We are not going                                                     PAUL COOK.
                                              Let’s get back to saying things that                  to agree. But pass a bill. Have a com-
                                            make sense, working with the proto-                     prehensive bill that helps those chil-                                   f
                                            cols, working with the experts and the                  dren, that helps those unemployed,                           MARKING A VICTORY FOR
                                            scientists. But don’t use a scientist se-               that helps those renters who can’t pay                          VIETNAM VETERANS
                                            lectively and say something that is not                 their rent and are going to be evicted.
                                            really true and you, yourself, know it                     Do you think that helps small busi-                   (Mr. HARDER of California asked
                                            is not true because you are doing it.                   nesses? Do you think it helps grocery                  and was given permission to address
                                            That is what some of those folks are                    stores? Do you think it helps barber-                  the House for 1 minute and to revise
                                            doing. It is driving people nuts, and it                shops? Do you think it helps gasoline                  and extend his remarks.)
                                            is driving their businesses under. They                 stations? It does not because they are                   Mr. HARDER of California. Mr.
                                            will never come back.                                   going belly up, and they don’t have any                Speaker, I rise today to celebrate a
                                              Those families that are struggling                    resources.                                             long-overdue victory for our Vietnam
                                            and the kids that are going to have                        We are in this together. What I keep                veterans.
                                            trouble eating are having that trouble                  telling him, Mr. Speaker, and what I                     For decades, tens of thousands of
                                            because the businesses that their fami-                 keep telling my side, as well, we are in               Vietnam vets haven’t got the benefits
                                            lies work for are being bankrupted by                   this together, and we need to help ev-                 that they deserve. Even though dis-
                                            crazy, radical policies that have to end.               eryone who is in such distress, not just               eases     like    Parkinson’s,     hyper-
                                            We can help them in the short term.                     small businesses. We need to help small                thyroidism, and bladder cancer are sci-
                                            We ought to help them in the short                      businesses.                                            entifically linked to Agent Orange,
                                            term.                                                      The airlines continue to say they are               they still aren’t covered by the VA.
                                              Some of the stuff I mentioned that                    going to stop flying. This doesn’t help                  But, today, I am thrilled to say that
                                            we are not in agreement on ought to                     them.                                                  veterans exposed to Agent Orange can
                                            get dropped out. But in the meantime,                      Mr. SCALISE. Mr. Speaker, if we                     finally stop fighting their own govern-
                                            don’t hold them hostage. Let’s bring                    wanted to pass another CARES Act-                      ment because my bill, the Fair Care for
                                            those things that we agree on to the                    type piece of legislation, as we have                  Veterans Act, is on track to become
                                            floor and save the businesses that we                   seen in both other CARES Act bills,                    the law of the land.
                                            can because every day we don’t, more                    you have a lot of willingness and inter-                 I want to dedicate this effort to Josh-
                                            will never come back.                                   est on this side of the aisle, which was               ua Melendez of Modesto, California,
                                              Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gen-                      there on both of those votes. Clearly,                 and Lyle Ducheneaux of Turlock, Cali-
                                            tleman.                                                 there are things in Heroes that there is               fornia, two local veterans who will per-
                                              Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I just want                   no bipartisan consensus on.                            sonally be impacted by this change.
                                            to say, this business about illegals get-                  So, our party is willing and ready to                 Most of all, I want to dedicate this
                                            ting money, let me just give you an ex-                 go another round on those items we                     effort to my grandfather, First Ser-




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                                            ample. You have a husband and wife                      agree on, and not months from now,                     geant Albert Z. Simmons, whose life
                                            and three children living in an apart-                  not months ago, as it should have been                 was cut tragically short by Agent Or-
                                            ment. The husband does not have au-                     done. It should be done today. Hope-                   ange. I wish he could be with us today
                                            thorization to be here. What the bill                   fully, it will be done when we return. I               to see this.
                                            provided for, that the gentleman talks                  would be happy to work with the gen-                     These veterans fought for us. It has
                                            about, is making sure we feed those                     tleman on those items.                                 been my honor to fight for them. God



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