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Growing the Small Business Agricultural Economy (S. Hrg. 119-348, January 14, 2026)

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The printed record of a hearing of the Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship of the United States Senate titled Growing the Small Business Agricultural Economy, on January 14, 2026, S. HRG. 119–348. Chair Joni Ernst and Ranking Member Edward J. Markey gave opening statements, and the chair's statement says small businesses in rural communities represent over 96 percent of all employers and provide nearly 57 percent of all jobs. The witnesses were Melissa Spurgin of First Iowa State Bank, Erbin Crowell of the Neighboring Food Co-op Association, James “Jay” Funke of Del Clay Farm Equipment, LLC and Maria Moreira of World Farmers. The record includes a Berkshire Strategic Alliance, Inc. letter dated January 10, 2026 and responses to questions submitted by Senator Scott.

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                                                                                                                                                               S. HRG. 119–348

                                                                                                   GROWING THE SMALL BUSINESS
                                                                                                     AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY



                                                                                                                   HEARING
                                                                                                                           BEFORE THE


                                                                                       COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
                                                                                          AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP
                                                                                                                              OF THE


                                                                                                    UNITED STATES SENATE
                                                                                                ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS
                                                                                                                        SECOND SESSION


                                                                                                                        JANUARY 14, 2026


                                                                               Printed for the use of the Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship




                                                                                                                             (

                                                                                                Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.govinfo.gov


                                                                                                            U.S. GOVERNMENT PUBLISHING OFFICE
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                                                                                       COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP

                                                                                                     ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS



                                                                                                           JONI ERNST, Iowa, Chair
                                                                                             EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts, Ranking Member
                                                                              JAMES E. RISCH, Idaho                    MARIA CANTWELL, Washington
                                                                              RAND PAUL, Kentucky                      JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire
                                                                              TIM SCOTT, South Carolina                CORY A. BOOKER, New Jersey
                                                                              TODD YOUNG, Indiana                      CHRISTOPHER A. COONS, Delaware
                                                                              JOSH HAWLEY, Missouri                    MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii
                                                                              TED BUDD, North Carolina                 JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
                                                                              JOHN R. CURTIS, Utah                     JOHN W. HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
                                                                              JAMES C. JUSTICE, West Virginia          ADAM B. SCHIFF, California
                                                                              JON HUSTED, Ohio
                                                                                                    MEREDITH WEST, Republican Staff Director
                                                                                                      SEAN MOORE, Democratic Staff Director




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                                                                                                                              JANUARY 14, 2026

                                                                                                                             OPENING STATEMENTS
                                                                                                                                                                                                         Page
                                                                              Joni Ernst, U.S. Senator from Iowa, Chair ...........................................................                        1
                                                                              Edward J. Markey, U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, Ranking Member .........                                                  2

                                                                                                                                      WITNESSES
                                                                              Ms. Melissa Spurgin, Chief Financial Officer, First Iowa State Bank ................                                         5
                                                                                  Prepared Statement .........................................................................................             7
                                                                              Mr. Erbin Crowell, Executive Director, Neighboring Food Co-op Association ...                                                9
                                                                                  Prepared Statement .........................................................................................            12
                                                                              Mr. James ‘‘Jay’’ Funke, Co-Owner and Past President, Del Clay Farm Equip-
                                                                               ment, LLC .............................................................................................................    21
                                                                                  Prepared Statement .........................................................................................            23
                                                                              Ms. Maria Moreira, Founder and Board Chair, World Farmers .........................                                         25
                                                                                  Prepared Statement .........................................................................................            27

                                                                                                      ADDITIONAL LETTERS/STATEMENTS FOR THE RECORD
                                                                              Letter to the Small Business Administration dated January 9, 2026 ................                                          49
                                                                              Berkshire Strategic Alliance, Inc., Letter Dated January 10, 2026 ....................                                      51

                                                                                                                        QUESTIONS FOR THE RECORD
                                                                              Ms. Melissa Spurgin Responses to Questions Submitted by Senator Scott ........                                              57
                                                                              Mr. James ‘‘Jay’’ Funke Response to Question Submitted by Senator Scott ......                                              59




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                                                                                                GROWING THE SMALL BUSINESS
                                                                                                  AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY

                                                                                                       WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14, 2026

                                                                                                           UNITED STATES SENATE,
                                                                                                       COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
                                                                                                                  AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP,
                                                                                                                              Washington, DC.
                                                                                 The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:33 p.m., in Room
                                                                              428A, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Joni Ernst, chairwoman
                                                                              of the committee, presiding.
                                                                                 Present: Senators Ernst [presiding], Young, Husted, Markey,
                                                                              Cantwell, and Shaheen.
                                                                                                OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR ERNST
                                                                                 CHAIR. I call the Committee on Small Business and Entrepre-
                                                                              neurship to order. Folks, it’s the start of a new year, and I’m ex-
                                                                              cited to kick it off discussing the ways we can supercharge Main
                                                                              Street and promote economic growth across our rural communities.
                                                                                 This committee routinely looks at the integral role small busi-
                                                                              nesses play in our economy and our lives, especially in our rural
                                                                              communities, where small businesses represent over 96 percent of
                                                                              all employers, and provide nearly 57 percent of all jobs.
                                                                                 I grew up on a farm in Southwest Iowa, and currently live in Red
                                                                              Oak. Still, today, I know the local small business owners who run
                                                                              the stores and shops around me, and experience firsthand how in-
                                                                              grained they are in our agricultural community, not to mention the
                                                                              role of America’s original small business owners, family farmers.
                                                                              After all, these are my neighbors and my friends. They carry on the
                                                                              spirit of entrepreneurship that runs deep throughout rural Amer-
                                                                              ica.
                                                                                 Despite the importance of these small businesses to rural agricul-
                                                                              tural communities, they have faced numerous challenges in secur-
                                                                              ing affordable access to capital, essential to their survival. The
                                                                              SBA’s 7(a) loan program was established to help address some of
                                                                              those gaps.
                                                                                 But under the Biden administration’s mismanagement, we saw
                                                                              the opposite. The share of lending to rural small businesses de-
                                                                              clined year after year. The reason for the decline is no mystery.
                                                                              While the Biden administration was recklessly slashing lending
                                                                              standards and eligibility rules in the 7(a) program, it was building
                                                                              up regulatory hurdles in the private sector and ignoring the chal-
                                                                              lenges faced by the small community banks that serve rural and
                                                                              agricultural entrepreneurs, including their challenges in utilizing
                                                                              the 7(a) program itself.
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                                                                                 Luckily, President Trump and SBA Administrator Loeffler have
                                                                              overseen a tremendous turnaround in lending to rural communities
                                                                              with the dollar value of all 7(a) lending to rural small businesses
                                                                              in the first year of the new administration increasing by nearly 20
                                                                              percent over last year.
                                                                                 However, many rural community banks still find it incredibly dif-
                                                                              ficult to fully and actively participate in the 7(a) loan program due
                                                                              to unnecessary red tape and overly complex requirements that do
                                                                              not account for the unique needs and operations of rural small
                                                                              businesses. Many community banks also worry that their inability
                                                                              to dedicate staff to SBA compliance will jeopardize their ability to
                                                                              rely on the 7(a) loan guarantee.
                                                                                 This red tape shouldn’t be what stands in the way of reaching
                                                                              borrowers who can benefit from 7(a). That is why I called Adminis-
                                                                              trator Loeffler earlier this week to report to this committee on the
                                                                              resources and efforts the SBA has made to promote greater partici-
                                                                              pation by rural community banks in SBA loan programs.
                                                                                 I ask unanimous consent to enter into the record my January 9th
                                                                              letter requesting information from the SBA on its efforts to assist
                                                                              rural community banks. Without objection, so ordered.
                                                                                 In the letter, I also asked what the SBA is doing in the new year
                                                                              to reduce compliance and paperwork burdens for rural community
                                                                              banks so they can reach more rural and agricultural small business
                                                                              owners.
                                                                                 We must also do our part in the Senate. We made headway when
                                                                              the committee reported out my bipartisan bill with Senator Coons,
                                                                              the Made in America Manufacturing Finance Act, which will in-
                                                                              crease the SBA-backed loan limit from $5 million to $10 million for
                                                                              small manufacturers. A companion to our bill has passed the House
                                                                              of Representatives, so I do hope that we can get these loan limit
                                                                              increases enacted in the coming weeks to complement the Ernst/
                                                                              Coons bill.
                                                                                 I also introduced my Modernizing Agricultural and Manufac-
                                                                              turing Bonds Act, which will modernize IRS rules for rural develop-
                                                                              ment bonds. It is only through concerted coordinated efforts and
                                                                              thoughtful legislation that we will be able to cut the red tape ham-
                                                                              pering community lenders and give our rural agricultural small
                                                                              businesses the room and capital to grow.
                                                                                 I am grateful that we’re joined today by our panel of witnesses.
                                                                              I look forward to hearing from them to see how we can help both
                                                                              rural entrepreneurs and the community banks that serve them. I
                                                                              now recognize Ranking Member Markey for his opening statement.

                                                                                                     STATEMENT OF SENATOR MARKEY
                                                                                Senator MARKEY. Thank you, Madam Chair, very much, because
                                                                              today we’re here to talk about supporting local farms, grocery
                                                                              stores, food banks, other small businesses that make up the rural
                                                                              agricultural community economy in our country. And these small
                                                                              businesses are key to feeding local communities, creating jobs,
                                                                              building sustainable food systems.
                                                                                Unfortunately, the agricultural economy is being crushed by the
                                                                              Trump administration’s attack on rural communities. In President
                                                                              Trump’s playbook, MAGA really means Making Agriculture Go




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                                                                              Awry, and we’re seeing it as it cascades down onto the kitchen ta-
                                                                              bles of people in America.
                                                                                 Grocery costs are dramatically up. Over last year, coffee’s up 20
                                                                              percent, beef’s up 16 percent, bananas are up 6.5 percent. Food
                                                                              prices went up 3.1 percent in 2025 in the Trump administration.
                                                                              And Trump keeps saying that affordability is a fake word. But it’s
                                                                              not a fake word for small businesses, not a fake word for con-
                                                                              sumers when something’s up 3.1 percent.
                                                                                 In fact, his agriculture committee strategy is bananas, okay, in
                                                                              terms of what he’s doing, all across the board from tariffs to every
                                                                              other policy which he has. His tariffs threatened to bankrupt thou-
                                                                              sands of family farmers who are seeing their own prices increase,
                                                                              and their exporting opportunities squeezed as other countries re-
                                                                              taliate with tariffs of their own.
                                                                                 President Trump’s immigration policies are spreading fear in our
                                                                              neighborhoods and making it even harder for rural businesses and
                                                                              small farms to find hard working employees, a longstanding issue
                                                                              in rural communities.
                                                                                 And we cannot ignore President Trump’s disastrous healthcare
                                                                              policies. With the passage of President Trump’s big ugly bill, hun-
                                                                              dreds of rural hospitals will likely close or cut services of to 22 mil-
                                                                              lion Americans who just saw a dramatic increase in their health in-
                                                                              surance on January 1st, just 12 days ago. Ten million of them are
                                                                              small businesses, all work at small businesses, 10 million up to 22
                                                                              million.
                                                                                 And a lot of these farmers, you know, they belong to farmer co-
                                                                              ops. They’re Rotarians, they’re the lifeblood of Main Street across
                                                                              rural America. And he’s turning Main Street into Pain Street, you
                                                                              know, for these people, healthcare, electricity, energy costs, food
                                                                              costs, all the way across the board.
                                                                                 And it’s just that the Republicans are just clueless, callous and
                                                                              it’s the cruel decision not to extend the Affordable Care Act, their
                                                                              enhanced tax credits. That’s going to mean thousands of rural
                                                                              small businesses and their employees are going to see healthcare
                                                                              costs skyrocket.
                                                                                 In fact, they’re facing in rural America a 28 percent higher in-
                                                                              crease than those who live in cities. America was already strug-
                                                                              gling with climate change impacts, rising housing costs, retraining
                                                                              workers, finding a path forward for their small businesses when
                                                                              they decide to retire. But we have to address these issues, support
                                                                              our farmers, fishermen, ranchers in rural America, and not make
                                                                              it harder for them to exist.
                                                                                 In Massachusetts, more than 7,000 small farms and thousands
                                                                              of small businesses support our local agricultural economy. These
                                                                              local producers lead the way in sustainable and innovative agri-
                                                                              culture, cutting down greenhouse gas emissions, treating workers
                                                                              fairly and feeding local communities and schools.
                                                                                 If President Trump were serious about supporting rural commu-
                                                                              nities, he would be investing in small local producers rather than
                                                                              prioritizing large multinational agricultural corporations that rou-
                                                                              tinely violate workplace and environmental laws.
                                                                                 And while creating a small business blight, President Trump is
                                                                              beefing up the pockets of his billionaire buddies. These corporations
                                                                              receive extreme favorable treatment from the largest buyer of




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                                                                              goods and services in the world, the United States government,
                                                                              when it is small producers that are leading the way in creating
                                                                              local sustainable food systems.
                                                                                 In Fiscal Year 2024, nearly $5 billion in food spending by the De-
                                                                              partment of Agriculture went to just 25 companies. Those aren’t
                                                                              small farmers, and that’s why I introduced the Effective Food Pro-
                                                                              curement Act, which would provide more federal contracting oppor-
                                                                              tunities for small producers, small farmers that are using sustain-
                                                                              able practices and treating employees fairly.
                                                                                 It’s important that we provide those pathways for small busi-
                                                                              nesses inside of our food systems. Food is more than what we see
                                                                              on our plate. It is the labor of farmers and farm workers, the
                                                                              health of our environments, and the cornerstone of growth for
                                                                              many rural economies. So, today, I look forward to hearing from
                                                                              our witnesses about how we can further our shared goals to help
                                                                              small businesses in the agricultural community. Thank you.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Great. Thank you, Ranking Member Markey. And again,
                                                                              I want to extend a warm welcome to all of our witnesses, and I am
                                                                              thankful that you all took time out of your busy schedules to come
                                                                              to Washington, DC to share your expertise on how we can improve
                                                                              America’s rural agricultural economy.
                                                                                 I will now introduce the two witnesses who are here today to tes-
                                                                              tify on behalf of the majority. And first, is Ms. Melissa Spurgin.
                                                                              She is from Albia, Iowa, and is the Chief Financial Officer of first
                                                                              Iowa State Bank, where she has worked for over 22 years. She pre-
                                                                              viously served as Vice President of First Iowa State Bank. Ms.
                                                                              Spurgin holds a bachelor’s degree from St. Ambrose University and
                                                                              an MBA from Capella University.
                                                                                 And next, Mr. Jay Funke. Jay is from Edgewood, Iowa, and is
                                                                              the owner of Del Clay Farm Equipment, a family-owned farm
                                                                              equipment dealer business. Del Clay Farm Equipment has been in
                                                                              business for over 25 years, and provides new and used farm equip-
                                                                              ment to farmers throughout Northeast Iowa. Mr. Funke holds a
                                                                              bachelor’s degree from Loras College.
                                                                                 And thank you, again, I now recognize Ranking Member Markey
                                                                              to introduce his witnesses.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Erbin Crowell
                                                                              serves as Executive Director of the Neighboring Food Co-op Asso-
                                                                              ciation, a cooperative federation of retail grocery co-ops across New
                                                                              England and New York State. And he has nearly three decades of
                                                                              experience in cooperative business and food system development,
                                                                              and serves on the boards of the National Cooperative Business As-
                                                                              sociation and the New England Farmers Union. He lives with his
                                                                              family in rural western Massachusetts.
                                                                                 Ms. Maria Moreira is the founder and board chair of World
                                                                              Farmers which is based in Lancaster, Massachusetts. Her perspec-
                                                                              tive as a farmer, a business owner, an immigrant, has fueled her
                                                                              passion to advocate for small scale farmers for over 45 years. She
                                                                              is also vice chair of the Rural Coalition Board of Directors and has
                                                                              served as farm service agency county committee advisor for nine
                                                                              years and was a member of the USDA Beginning Farmer and
                                                                              Rancher Advisory Committee.
                                                                                 She’s just been a leading voice in identifying and establishing
                                                                              market opportunities for ethnic crops and increasing access for cul-




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                                                                              turally appropriate crops for immigrant and refugee communities,
                                                                              and we look forward to hearing from both of them.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Wonderful. Thank you, Ranking Member Markey. And
                                                                              briefly, I’ll take a moment and explain the lighting system in front
                                                                              of you. There are three lights in front of you. Green means go. Yel-
                                                                              low means you’re running out of time, and red means please wrap
                                                                              it up quickly.
                                                                                 I ask unanimous consent that the witness’s full statements be in-
                                                                              cluded in the record. And without objection, so ordered. As your
                                                                              written testimony has been made part of the record, the committee
                                                                              asks that you limit your oral remarks to five minutes. And with
                                                                              that, Ms. Spurgin, you are recognized for five minutes for your tes-
                                                                              timony.
                                                                                   STATEMENT OF MS. MELISSA ANN SPURGIN, CHIEF
                                                                               FINANCIAL OFFICER, FIRST IOWA STATE BANK, ALBIA, IOWA
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Thank you, Madam Chair, Ranking Member, and
                                                                              members of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity to ap-
                                                                              pear before you today. My name is Melissa Spurgin, and I’m the
                                                                              Chief Financial Officer of First Iowa State Bank, where we serve
                                                                              rural communities across Southern Iowa.
                                                                                 I appear before you today on behalf of rural banks that underuti-
                                                                              lize SBA loan programs, rural banks play a critical role in financ-
                                                                              ing small enterprises. We rely heavily on local knowledge, long-
                                                                              standing relationships, and firsthand understanding of our commu-
                                                                              nities, not just standardized financial metrics.
                                                                                 Our limited use of SBA programs is not philosophical, it’s struc-
                                                                              tural. In many rural banks, a single lender, single lender may han-
                                                                              dle commercial ag and consumer lending. But SBA programs were
                                                                              largely designed for lenders with scale and specialized staff. SBA
                                                                              loans require significantly more documentation, certifications, and
                                                                              post-closing compliance than conventional loans. With lender staff
                                                                              requiring continuous training due to frequent rule changes, the de-
                                                                              parture of just one employee can eliminate a bank’s SBA capability
                                                                              entirely.
                                                                                 This is especially challenging because rural businesses typically
                                                                              need smaller loans, not multimillion dollar financing. SBA under-
                                                                              writing and servicing costs, both in terms of compliance and staff-
                                                                              ing, are largely the same regardless of loan size or market area.
                                                                                 So, the economics often do not work for the small dollar loans.
                                                                              Most common in rural communities, little weight is given to the
                                                                              judgment of experienced rural lenders with specific requirements
                                                                              around aspects of loan of a loan like debt service coverage ratio
                                                                              that do not account for seasonal or cyclical income patterns. This
                                                                              results in credit worthy businesses failing underwriting, not be-
                                                                              cause they cannot repay, but because of timing. Mismatches in
                                                                              cash flow equity injection requirements similarly fail to reflect
                                                                              rural asset structures. Many rural businesses are asset rich, but
                                                                              cash poor with wealth tied up in land, equipment or other assets
                                                                              accumulated over generations. Collateral and personal guarantee
                                                                              requirements also need greater flexibility.
                                                                                 Rural assets are often inherited, jointly owned, or held in trusts.
                                                                              SBA collateral rules can require costly and time-consuming legal
                                                                              restructuring simply to pledge assets or obtain guarantees. Docu-




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                                                                              mentation alternatives should also be permitted for long estab-
                                                                              lished rural businesses with informal but reliable operating his-
                                                                              tories.
                                                                                 Community bank relationship knowledge should be recognized as
                                                                              a compensating factor in underwriting aligning. SBA underwriting
                                                                              with rural economic realities would expand access, increase pro-
                                                                              gram utilization in rural markets, and do so without materially in-
                                                                              creasing default risk. These are flexibility improvements, not loos-
                                                                              ened standards.
                                                                                 Rural banks also have significant concerns about the risk of tech-
                                                                              nical default and guarantee claw backs. SBA guarantees can be de-
                                                                              nied or reduced due to minor paperwork or procedural errors, even
                                                                              when the borrower performs as agreed. And rural banks typically
                                                                              lack the in-house SBA specialist or legal teams to manage this risk.
                                                                              A single denial of a guarantee can have a meaningful impact on a
                                                                              small bank’s capital.
                                                                                 In practice, the guarantee is only as reliable as the compliance
                                                                              process, and that process has proven unforgiving. As a result, rural
                                                                              banks continue to lend, but we do so outside SBA programs, we
                                                                              rely on portfolio loans, relationship-based underwriting, flexible re-
                                                                              newals during downturns, faster credit decisions, and long-term
                                                                              customer support.
                                                                                 During economic stress, rural banks are lending, but we are not
                                                                              able to reach every credit worthy rural entrepreneur without SBA
                                                                              support borrowers most affected our startups and those on the eco-
                                                                              nomic margins of rural communities. The path to greater rural
                                                                              bank participation is reducing friction in the system.
                                                                                 I believe Congress and the SBA can better achieve the goals of
                                                                              supporting entrepreneurs and increasing access to capital in rural
                                                                              America by doing the following; easing the compliance burden and
                                                                              cost structure for smaller loans and for loans in rural areas, recog-
                                                                              nizing the value of the judgment and relationship knowledge of the
                                                                              community banker, providing flexibility and acceptable equity col-
                                                                              lateral and personal guarantee requirements and how they’re docu-
                                                                              mented, ensuring greater clarity so banks can truly rely on the
                                                                              SBA guarantee without risking a claw back on a technicality. And
                                                                              more effectively marketing resources such as the small business de-
                                                                              velopment centers to ensure both banks and borrowers understand
                                                                              what support exists.
                                                                                 The SBA with these reforms can be better and a more impactful
                                                                              partner with community banks in Iowa and across the country. We
                                                                              stand ready to be a partner in helping achieve this worthy goal.
                                                                                 Thank you for the opportunity to share these perspectives, and
                                                                              I look forward to answering your questions.
                                                                                 [The prepared statement of Ms. Spurgin follows.]




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                                                                                CHAIR. Thank you, Ms. Spurgin. And is it Mr. Crowell or
                                                                              Crowell?
                                                                                Mr. CROWELL. Either.
                                                                                CHAIR. Very easy. So, thank you, Mr. Crowell. Go ahead, and
                                                                              thank you. You have five minutes for your testimony.
                                                                              STATEMENT OF MR. ERBIN CROWELL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
                                                                               NEIGHBORING   FOOD    CO–OP   ASSOCIATION   (NFCA),
                                                                               SHELBURNE FALLS, MASSACHUSETTS
                                                                                Mr. CROWELL. Thank you, Chair Ernst, Ranking Member Mar-
                                                                              key, and members of the committee. Thank you for this opportunity
                                                                              to testify before you. We certainly appreciate your focus on this
                                                                              issue, and the chance to discuss the role of cooperatives and credit
                                                                              unions in building thriving local economies and agricultural sys-
                                                                              tems.
                                                                                My name is Erbin Crowell, and I serve as Executive Director of
                                                                              the Neighboring Food Co-op Association. I’m also a board member
                                                                              of the National Cooperative Business Association and the New
                                                                              England Farmers Union. I’ve nearly three decades of experience in
                                                                              co-op and food system development, beginning as a member of
                                                                              equal exchange worker co-op based in West Bridgewater, Massa-
                                                                              chusetts.
                                                                                As the committee works to craft thoughtful policy, co-ops should
                                                                              continue to have a significant role in creating thriving local econo-
                                                                              mies. I want to recommend the following improvements in key sup-
                                                                              ports. First, providing access to capital through the SBA by
                                                                              crafting alternatives to current lending requirements for co-ops.
                                                                                Second, ensuring that a generation of small business and family
                                                                              farms are preserved through outreach and education on the cooper-
                                                                              ative business model. And third, ensuring that key support for
                                                                              cross-agency collaboration and technical assistance for co-ops is
                                                                              available through federal programs and initiatives.
                                                                                The Neighboring Food Co-op Association was founded in 2011 to
                                                                              support the growth and development of food co-ops in the North-
                                                                              east U.S., and we also partner with local producers and other co-
                                                                              ops to strengthen the regional food system and economy, and col-
                                                                              laborate with the NCBA and the New England Farmers Union on
                                                                              policy advocacy related to agriculture, food security, and co-ops and
                                                                              credit unions.
                                                                                Our region is home to many farm and fishery co-ops, worker co-
                                                                              ops, housing co-ops, and credit unions, as well as several utility co-
                                                                              ops. But food co-ops are particularly prevalent. There’s 60 food co-
                                                                              ops operating 70 storefronts, locally owned by almost 300,000 peo-
                                                                              ple.
                                                                                These range from large multi storefront retailers to small rural
                                                                              grocery stores. Our co-ops are focused not just on accessing healthy
                                                                              food, but sustaining jobs, strengthening food security, and pro-
                                                                              viding markets for local producers, with a third of our sales being
                                                                              local products. And that’s compared to about two to five percent in
                                                                              supermarkets.
                                                                                It’s also important to note that a half of all U.S. farmers are
                                                                              members of at least one cooperative. Co-ops tend to be multi-
                                                                              generational, maintaining crucial infrastructure and markets for
                                                                              their members and their communities. For example, 78 percent of




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                                                                              agricultural co-ops are more than 50 years old with Iowa, Texas,
                                                                              and California leading in the number of farm farmer co-ops. With-
                                                                              out these enterprises, rural people would not be able to fully par-
                                                                              ticipate in the modern economy.
                                                                                 Similarly, most of our food co-ops in the northeast are in rural
                                                                              and underserved areas, and have been in operation for decades.
                                                                              Several were founded during the Great Depression era, with a sec-
                                                                              ond wave in the ’60s and ’70s, and more startups opening in the
                                                                              past decade.
                                                                                 An area where co-ops offer a solution is in business succession.
                                                                              Small businesses are the backbone of our communities, and yet
                                                                              we’re in the middle of a watershed moment in Main Street America
                                                                              where across our country, many small businesses are owners are
                                                                              swiftly approaching retirement age, and the average age of farmers
                                                                              is 58 years old.
                                                                                 So, while some owners may choose to close or sell to an outside
                                                                              investor, a better option is to sell to a worker, producer, or con-
                                                                              sumer co-op. This ensures that the owner benefits financially, and
                                                                              their legacy is preserved along with accessing goods and services
                                                                              that would otherwise be lost.
                                                                                 My own region, we have an example of old creamery co-op, which
                                                                              is a rural grocery store that when their members decided to retire,
                                                                              they sold it to the people who loved it as much as they did; the peo-
                                                                              ple who shopped there. We also have a worker co-op called Real
                                                                              Pickles that became owned by its workers over 10 years ago, pre-
                                                                              serving jobs in the community.
                                                                                 Despite the demonstrated success, impact and resilience of co-
                                                                              ops, an ongoing challenge continues to be access to capital and ap-
                                                                              propriate technical support. The shared ownership structure of co-
                                                                              ops makes it makes them unable to access financing through SBA
                                                                              due to lending requirements that are not feasible for co-op busi-
                                                                              nesses, and in that can include hundreds or even thousands of
                                                                              member owners.
                                                                                 During the COVID–19 pandemic, the personal guarantee policy
                                                                              was temporarily removed with many positive outcomes for co-ops
                                                                              including Real Pickles which was able to not only maintain its
                                                                              business, but grow 25 percent in revenue since the end of the pan-
                                                                              demic. We also have a retail co-op, Franklin Community Co-op,
                                                                              which received a loan and has been able to not only grow, but is
                                                                              now plan planning a major expansion.
                                                                                 Unfortunately, we’ve seen a lot of changes in instability in the
                                                                              economy. And so, we believe that by improving policies, SBA can
                                                                              help ensure that small business people, employees, farmers, and
                                                                              ranchers, and especially young and beginning farmers, can harness
                                                                              the power of the co-op business model to address the urgent chal-
                                                                              lenges and opportunities in our rural communities. For example,
                                                                              the Improving SBA Engagement Act, the Main Street 2.0 Act, and
                                                                              other opportunities to increase interagency collaboration.
                                                                                 In summary, co-ops offer a time-tested successful and impactful
                                                                              tool for addressing the challenges we face in these unstable times.
                                                                              They have a track record of success and they can grow and serve
                                                                              our communities better with some basic policy changes.




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                                                                                So, thank you again, Chair Ernst, Ranking Member Markey,
                                                                              members of the committee. Look forward to your questions. Thank
                                                                              you.
                                                                                [The prepared statement of Mr. Crowell follows.]




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                                                                                CHAIR. Thank you very much. And next, we’ll turn to Mr. Funke,
                                                                              and you are recognized for five minutes.

                                                                              STATEMENT OF MR. JAMES ‘‘JAY’’ F. FUNKE, SALES MANAGER,
                                                                                   DEL CLAY FARM EQUIPMENT, EDGEWOOD, IOWA
                                                                                 Mr. FUNKE. Thank you, Chair Ernst, Ranking Member Markey,
                                                                              distinguished members of the Small Business and Entrepreneur-
                                                                              ship Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify on cur-
                                                                              rent conditions of Ag business and rural economy.
                                                                                 I grew up on a family farm, attended Loras College, came back
                                                                              and have spent 45 years in Ag business, 39 years in ownership in
                                                                              two different Ag businesses in Edgewood, Iowa. Edgewood is a com-
                                                                              munity in Northeast Iowa with a current population of 904, and I
                                                                              since found out, we’re at 908. So, we’re growing.
                                                                                 Our business community has been very active and been able to
                                                                              roll with the changes, working together as a community supporting
                                                                              local businesses and a strong work ethic with continuity and own-
                                                                              ership of businesses. I’ve been a member of the Iowa Nebraska
                                                                              Equipment Dealers Association since 1992, serving 10 years as a
                                                                              board member, chairman, and current position as past chairman.
                                                                                 Like most members of rural communities, I have served on many
                                                                              committees and spent over 30 years on economic development in
                                                                              Edgewood. I have been around long enough to experience highs and
                                                                              lows in the Ag business and our rural economy as our farmers’ in-
                                                                              come has dropped in the losses of around $200 an acre are com-
                                                                              mon.
                                                                                 The impacts can be felt in the small businesses supporting those
                                                                              farmers. Our association monitors our member dealers and reports
                                                                              large equipment sales are down 26.5 percent through October of
                                                                              2025 versus 2024. The decrease in sales causes other problems. We
                                                                              have larger inventories than needed for the current sales volume,
                                                                              causing higher interest cost, which can lead dealers to dump inven-
                                                                              tory and take losses on equipment.
                                                                                 Ultimately, this creates losses on the income statement that will
                                                                              be reflected on the balance sheet. And as that happens, we stop
                                                                              buying vehicles or replacing tools, cut advertising, and the list goes
                                                                              on. Rural small business owners all experience problems like these
                                                                              when the farmers they depend upon start to hurt.
                                                                                 We have always offered financing to our customers, and the need
                                                                              today is greater than ever with increasing equipment costs, making
                                                                              it harder for small farmers to afford the equipment. We do have
                                                                              a strong business community in Edgewood, but we have lost our
                                                                              Ford dealership, a restaurant, a realtor, and some other small busi-
                                                                              nesses.
                                                                                 It is important for rural America to keep these services alive.
                                                                              Otherwise, we will only continue to lose population to our larger
                                                                              cities. I truly believe rural communities are vital to this country
                                                                              and are a great place to raise a family. But if we are going to keep
                                                                              them and the small businesses in them alive, then they will need
                                                                              the support from Congress and the SBA.
                                                                                 I want to thank Congress for the steps taken to extend the tax
                                                                              incentives to small businesses in the big beautiful tax bill. Small
                                                                              businesses pour most of their earnings into growing and improving




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                                                                              their business. We do not see a return until we sell or allow the
                                                                              next generation to take over.
                                                                                 I want to share some other thoughts on how to improve our Ag
                                                                              business and our rural economy. Number one, encourage young en-
                                                                              trepreneurs, and give them the access to financing they need to get
                                                                              their business started or to take over businesses that their commu-
                                                                              nities already rely on. We need to keep rural America operating
                                                                              and be able to support our farmers.
                                                                                 Number two, invest and to support programs to improve, and en-
                                                                              courage businesses and people to stay in our rural communities, es-
                                                                              pecially those communities under 10,000 people. In most cases, a
                                                                              lot of the basic infrastructure is in place or can easily be improved
                                                                              if we just offered the communities and small business owners the
                                                                              advice and support they need.
                                                                                 Number three, although not in this community’s jurisdiction, in-
                                                                              creased insurance support and stronger safety nets for our farmers
                                                                              would go a long way to helping rural communities they’re a part
                                                                              of.
                                                                                 Number four, fair and reciprocal trade requests from those coun-
                                                                              tries we are purchasing goods and services from. My brother and
                                                                              I also farm our family farm, and we sell our corn to all three grain
                                                                              elevators in our community as they do business with us. I think
                                                                              every farmer would rather have markets for their products than
                                                                              rely on government payments, but we must make sure those mar-
                                                                              kets treat us fairly and that our trading partners live up to the
                                                                              agreements they make with us.
                                                                                 One percent of our population are farmers. They produce food for
                                                                              the rest of this great country and the world, and create thousands
                                                                              of jobs in their communities from all the support businesses re-
                                                                              quired in their quest to feed the world. I’m proud to be a farmer
                                                                              and an Ag business supporting farmers. These are some ideas that
                                                                              I hope can be considered.
                                                                                 I greatly appreciate this opportunity to testify to this committee,
                                                                              and look forward to any additional conversation.
                                                                                 [The prepared statement of Mr. Funke follows.]




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                                                                                   CHAIR. Thank you. And, finally, Ms. Moreira.

                                                                               STATEMENT OF MS. MARIA MOREIRA, FOUNDER AND BOARD
                                                                              PRESIDENT, WORLD FARMERS, LANCASTER, MASSACHUSETTS
                                                                                 Ms. MOREIRA. Thank you, Madam Chair Ernest, Ranking Mem-
                                                                              ber Markey, and members of the committee. Thank you for the op-
                                                                              portunity to offer testimony for today’s hearing, growing the small
                                                                              business agriculture economy.
                                                                                 My name is Maria Moreira, and I am the founder and Board
                                                                              Chair of World Farmers, a nonprofit which currently provides ac-
                                                                              cess to land in technical assistance to 260 immigrant and refugee
                                                                              farmers in Massachusetts. I am also the vice chair of the Board of
                                                                              Rural Coalition, a national coalition with more than 60 grassroots
                                                                              member organizations working to protect and sustain land food in
                                                                              rural based here in Washington, DC.
                                                                                 In addition to the credentials you heard in my introduction, I
                                                                              come to you today with 45 years of experience in both creating and
                                                                              operating several successful food and farm businesses, and sup-
                                                                              porting other farmers to build successful farming businesses in this
                                                                              country, World Farmers’ founding mission is to support small scale
                                                                              vegetable producers in accessing mainstream agricultural resources
                                                                              in developing strong, viable businesses through technical assistance
                                                                              and land access production and marketing.
                                                                                 Through all my years of dedicated to this work, the last five
                                                                              years have been the most turbulent for farmers. Our farmers are
                                                                              aging. Our shifting climate is imposing in creating threats to farm-
                                                                              ers operations. Our farm labor is ever fragile in our land. Prices
                                                                              are ever changing, changing markets posing threats.
                                                                                 While farmers continue to receive pennies on the dollar for their
                                                                              products, we are seeing businesses continue to consolidate across
                                                                              sectors, and their market models are not built to support new, be-
                                                                              ginning small to medium scale farmers. This has made it increas-
                                                                              ingly difficult for small farm family farms to sustain their oper-
                                                                              ations, putting undue pressure on them to increase scale in an at-
                                                                              tempt to compete.
                                                                                 We need to invest in our small to mid-size farms if we want to
                                                                              see them not only survive but thrive. A local agricultural sector
                                                                              stimulates job creation and supports economic activity among adja-
                                                                              cent and neighboring businesses. And yet, individuals choosing to
                                                                              farm are dwindling, and farmers’ children are first witness to the
                                                                              scarce profit margins of finding other jobs.
                                                                                 In order to support the American people, we need to intentionally
                                                                              prioritize and build a food system that facilitates the development
                                                                              in growth of small to mid-scale agriculture businesses. One of the
                                                                              most impactful programs for facilitating the business growth
                                                                              among small and mid-scale farmers across the country was the
                                                                              COVID-era policy that channeled resources directly to farmers, and
                                                                              it did it in the most effective way possible by purchasing their
                                                                              products.
                                                                                 This program originated under the Trump administration named
                                                                              as the Farmers to Families Food Box Program, and evolved into
                                                                              the local food purchasing assistance program known as LFPA. We
                                                                              have not witnessed another single program that has provided a




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                                                                              similar level of direct financial impacts to small and mid-size scale
                                                                              farmers.
                                                                                 World Farmers was a contract holder for the first Farmers to
                                                                              Families Food Box Program. The first time that USDA Agricultural
                                                                              Marketing Service, AMS, had sourced diversified specialty crops
                                                                              from farmers. It was a big shift for the agency, although many peo-
                                                                              ple I know said that the bid process was not meant for small
                                                                              aggregators like world farmers.
                                                                                 We applied and we were awarded the contract, recognizing the
                                                                              impact it would have for direct market farmers who did not know
                                                                              if their markets would operate during the pandemic. This program
                                                                              proved AMS’s ability to source from small and mid-tier aggregators
                                                                              who prioritize local farmers of scale.
                                                                                 It kept farmers afloat. The FPA and LFPA Plus programs did
                                                                              similar things for farmers in Massachusetts. Of the 14.3 million in-
                                                                              vested in cooperative partners to implement the program, 11.3 mil-
                                                                              lion was the food purchases made with local farmers, fishermen,
                                                                              and producers. That’s 80 percent of the total budget direct directly
                                                                              invested in farmers products. These programs showcase the capac-
                                                                              ity in success of the mid-tier aggregators across the country and
                                                                              connecting with in advancing sales for small and mid-scale farm-
                                                                              ers, as well as AMS’s ability to direct spending resources towards
                                                                              smaller producers.
                                                                                 In another way, which USDA can invest in our nation’s pro-
                                                                              ducers is through program outlined effective Food Procurement
                                                                              Act, which we thank Senator Markey for developing and intro-
                                                                              ducing. This bill would shift USDA’s significant purchasing power
                                                                              to purchase from small to mid-sized producers, prioritizing local
                                                                              sustainable and just purchasing with our government contracts and
                                                                              sourcing just with the LFPA program.
                                                                                 This would support farmers by creating a market for their prod-
                                                                              ucts, recognizing the rising needs for farmers of all scales across
                                                                              the nation. We hope that USDA, either of their own accord or
                                                                              through congressional direction, will invest in our farmers by in-
                                                                              vesting in these programs.
                                                                                 Thank you for your time consideration of these in very important
                                                                              matters in our support of growing the small business agriculture
                                                                              economy. And I’m ready for the questions when they come.
                                                                                 [The prepared statement of Ms. Moreira follows.]




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                                                                                 CHAIR. Wonderful. Thanks, Ms. Moreira. We will now move into
                                                                              questions and answers, and I’ll now recognize myself for five min-
                                                                              utes for questions.
                                                                                 So, we’ll start with Ms. Spurgin. In your written testimony, you
                                                                              state that, ‘‘The path to greater rural bank participation is reduc-
                                                                              ing friction in the system.’’ And on her first day in office, SBA Ad-
                                                                              ministrator Loeffler noted that one of her goals was to streamline
                                                                              and improve user experience.
                                                                                 I know that significant process has been made, and I expect to
                                                                              see that continue under this administration. Can you walk us
                                                                              through the process you went through the last time you tried to
                                                                              utilize the 7(a) loan program, and how it can be made easier to
                                                                              navigate through automation?
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Yes. Thank you for the question, Senator. Well, I
                                                                              will admit it has been five years since the last——
                                                                                 CHAIR. That’s a problem.
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Yes. Reason being, the last SBA loan that we did
                                                                              took six months to close. It was the purchase of an existing busi-
                                                                              ness that was so able to provide the historical data points, the his-
                                                                              torical financials. It was a very well positioned business. So, there’s
                                                                              no reason it should have taken six months to close.
                                                                                 And the other issue that we run into was the customer burnout.
                                                                              And I’m not sure that ever gets referenced just in regard to the
                                                                              back and forth that often happens between the SBA application
                                                                              portal and the lender and the customer. So, it has been some time
                                                                              since we have actually used the portal.
                                                                                 So, I would be very anxious for the small business development
                                                                              centers and or local SBA offices to really start to reach out to local
                                                                              lenders and describe the improvements. Because it will take turn-
                                                                              ing the boat from with small lenders that have experienced the
                                                                              frustrations with that within that system to start to try to recon-
                                                                              sider using SBA programs.
                                                                                 CHAIR. So, when you’re describing that customer burnout, it is
                                                                              simply that it takes so long they go back and forth between the
                                                                              portal or additional information——
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Right. Or we submit something and then it’s some-
                                                                              thing else. We need some additional documentation of some kind
                                                                              or some additional projections. And so, that constant customer
                                                                              thinks we’re done, we’ve submitted it, we’ll get a response, and
                                                                              then it’s, oh, we need something else. We need something else. And
                                                                              that is a very long, and can be a very stressful, timeframe for the
                                                                              customer.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Absolutely. No, thank you. I appreciate that. And Mr.
                                                                              Funke, last year, Congress passed the Working Families Tax Cut,
                                                                              which extended several small business tax breaks. And how will
                                                                              those tax cuts help your business this upcoming tax season, and
                                                                              what investments do you plan to make in your own business?
                                                                                 Mr. FUNKE. Thank you for the question, Senator Ernst. First off,
                                                                              the 20 percent deduction on qualified business income was very
                                                                              helpful. And for a small business where we are investing our prof-
                                                                              its back into our facilities, back into our people, back into our
                                                                              equipment, it’s important to have that.
                                                                                 In my own instance, the 100 percent bonus depreciation along
                                                                              with a Section 179 was a great help to our business. December is




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                                                                              the biggest month of the year for sales in the farm equipment busi-
                                                                              nesses, and we were able to capitalize on that and had one of our
                                                                              best year ends. We’re very fortunate.
                                                                                 Yes, I talk about the farmers losing $200 an acre, but as you’re
                                                                              familiar, we are from a more of a livestock-oriented farming in our
                                                                              northeast location. And it’s been very helpful to our business to
                                                                              minimize the reduction in our sales. So, those two things have hap-
                                                                              pened.
                                                                                 And for the record, two guys that did buy pieces, big pieces of
                                                                              equipment at the end of the year, both moved it into 2026 business.
                                                                              So, the programs were good enough through the manufacturers
                                                                              that they did that. So, you know most of our sales at the end of
                                                                              the year were between 10 and $60,000. So, you know, not big-ticket
                                                                              items. We didn’t sell any big tractors, a couple of combines, but
                                                                              that was about it.
                                                                                 As far as ourself the investments we’ve made, our biggest one
                                                                              came a year ago when we opened up our addition onto our facility.
                                                                              We added 10,000 square feet of shop space onto our facility because
                                                                              our shop had been expanding. And that’s one of the things we’ve
                                                                              worked very strongly for the last several years; to expand our shop,
                                                                              to be able to help our farmers and keep them up and operating in
                                                                              those times when they need us in the spring and the fall in par-
                                                                              ticular.
                                                                                 And even right now, when they’re in the winter, our livestock
                                                                              guys need that skid loader to run every day. And we’re able to do
                                                                              that. But I’ve invested in crane hoists you know, many different
                                                                              pieces of equipment replacing some vehicles, and doing some of
                                                                              those things.
                                                                                 And there’ll be more. But I will tell you that in 2026, at this
                                                                              point, we’re going to be very cautious moving forward. Because we
                                                                              don’t know where this price of commodities is going to go. And it
                                                                              will trickle down and catch my livestock guys eventually.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Thank you. My time has expired. But just because we
                                                                              maybe have an audience and folks that may be viewing that don’t
                                                                              understand the cost of the type of farm equipment that we are
                                                                              using in the Midwest, can you maybe just give the price of a com-
                                                                              bine for those that are listening or watching?
                                                                                 Mr. FUNKE. I hope you’re all having fun with this one. So, certain
                                                                              combines are in the $700,000 to $800,000 for the base unit. And
                                                                              then on top of that, if you’re going to put a 12-row corn head on
                                                                              it, that’ll run you someplace in $150,000 to $170,000. A 35-foot
                                                                              platform is going to run you well over $100,000.
                                                                                 Now, my Ag-Co people with my Gleaner combines have done a
                                                                              really strong job and they are trying to reduce the current inven-
                                                                              tory. And we actually sold a brand new combine for true cash price
                                                                              of, in the $430,000 range.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Yeah. So, I just use that to demonstrate, and thank you,
                                                                              Mr. Funke. I just use that to demonstrate the cost associated with
                                                                              equipment and farming today through the Midwest. So, thank you
                                                                              for humoring me. I now recognize Ranking Member Markey.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Thank you, Madam Chair. In December, I in-
                                                                              troduced the Effective Food Procurement Act to fix our broken food
                                                                              federal contracting system. This bill would help more small local
                                                                              producers that care about climate change and sustainability and




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                                                                              worker of fairness to get considered for federal purchasing opportu-
                                                                              nities.
                                                                                 We just cannot continue to stick with the status quo of rewarding
                                                                              massive agricultural corporations that are willing to sacrifice work-
                                                                              er safety and sustainability while leaving small farmers on the
                                                                              sidelines. Small farmers are like beggars at the banquet of federal
                                                                              subsidies. They don’t get access to this funding.
                                                                                 And federal contracting just shouldn’t go to those same big com-
                                                                              panies again, and again, almost like socialism that’s built into our
                                                                              system where the biggest get the most every single time. If our
                                                                              government supports small businesses, we should practice what we
                                                                              preach. Public purchasing dollars should support the public good
                                                                              and lift up small producers.
                                                                                 So, Ms. Moreira, what can be done to help small producers build
                                                                              sustainable food systems in their local communities, and how
                                                                              would the Effective Food Procurement Act help? You mentioned it
                                                                              in your opening statement.
                                                                                 Ms. MOREIRA. First of all, it’s all about the markets, access to the
                                                                              markets.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Can you move the microphone over a little?
                                                                                 Ms. MOREIRA. First of all, it’s all about the access to the markets.
                                                                              Farmers and ranchers across the nation strongly prefer investing
                                                                              to improve access to markets over direct farm subsidies often ac-
                                                                              crue the most agribusiness and integrators opening the markets,
                                                                              existing markets to localized farm family, farm businesses in mid-
                                                                              tier aggregators who work with small farmers.
                                                                                 By leveraging current investment in shifting procurement prac-
                                                                              tices through the Effective Food Procurement Act, it is a critical
                                                                              step that would, which would adapt USDA’s procurement practices
                                                                              to establish a pipeline that future dependable, stable markets for
                                                                              community connected and family operated farmers simply by
                                                                              leveraging current investments in shifting procurement practice by
                                                                              USDA. That’s all we’re asking.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Yeah. Thank you. And again, a subsidy pro-
                                                                              gram without access is an hallucination. That’s where small farm-
                                                                              ers are in America. They’re just over here in some hallucinatory
                                                                              state, you know, hoping someday that out of the goodness and be-
                                                                              neficence of the federal government, that they’ll stop just having
                                                                              socialized handouts to the biggest companies.
                                                                                 So, Mr. Crowell, what is the role of cooperatives in supporting re-
                                                                              silient, sustainable, and localized food supply chains?
                                                                                 Mr. CROWELL. Thank you, Senator, for your leadership on this
                                                                              issue, and particularly for including co-ops in this legislation. Cer-
                                                                              tainly, shifting federal purchasing priorities towards small and
                                                                              mid-size family farms would make a big difference, and it’s an ef-
                                                                              fective investment in our rural communities and would expand
                                                                              markets.
                                                                                 But particularly by including co-ops, it would also strengthen
                                                                              farmer-owned infrastructure in these communities because these
                                                                              co-ops are owned and governed by their patrons or the users of the
                                                                              products and services.
                                                                                 Their goal isn’t to maximize profit, but to ensure that they can
                                                                              meet their members’ needs over time, whether that’s inputs, proc-
                                                                              essing or marketing and distribution. And that means that there’s




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                                                                              a built-in incentive for the cooperative to stay rooted in its commu-
                                                                              nity, to weather economic and environmental challenges and invest
                                                                              in long-term infrastructure and impact.
                                                                                 By procuring from co-ops, you’re also benefiting not just one busi-
                                                                              ness, but all the members of that business, which in a farmer co-
                                                                              op can be in the tens or it can be in the thousands. So, it’s a very
                                                                              efficient investment in rural America.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. So, talk about then the issues around SBA
                                                                              lending and cooperatives.
                                                                                 Mr. CROWELL. Thank you. Yeah. As I mentioned also, I’ll just
                                                                              mention briefly for food co-ops, you know, we’re very focused on
                                                                              local procurement, the average co-op purchases from 169 local
                                                                              farmers. But our growth is limited by personal guarantee require-
                                                                              ments in SBA loans, the lack of technical support for people want-
                                                                              ing to transition to the business model, understand what it means
                                                                              to be a member owned co-op, and the lack of strong interagency col-
                                                                              laboration. So, those are the basic changes we’d like to see, many
                                                                              of which are already reflected in bipartisan legislation such as the
                                                                              Main Street Employee Ownership Act.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Yeah. Thank you. But again, legislation with-
                                                                              out passages are hallucination. So, we have to work on a bipartisan
                                                                              basis to get them passed. Thank you, Madam Chair.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Yeah, thank you. I just want to mention it’s a topic that
                                                                              we should be debating; the Effective Food Procurement Act. It has
                                                                              been referred to the Agricultural Committee. It is not under the
                                                                              purview of the Small Business Committee, but thank you, Senator
                                                                              Markey.
                                                                                 And actually, Senator Husted, you are recognized for five min-
                                                                              utes.
                                                                                 Senator HUSTED. Thanks, Madam Chair. I’ve enjoyed the con-
                                                                              versation and listening. You know, having grown up in Ohio, and
                                                                              in a farming community, and watching the industry over the years
                                                                              and how innovation technology and globalization, all these things
                                                                              have affected it.
                                                                                 I started to do a little math, having a little fun here with my AI
                                                                              partner as I was going through the economics of a family farm and
                                                                              reflecting on the estate tax debate that always goes on around
                                                                              farms. And I was thinking about a large family farm, 3,000 acres,
                                                                              row crops; wheat, corn, soybeans. I did the math on this.
                                                                                 At $10,000 an acre, that’s a $30 million asset. But once you fac-
                                                                              tor in average input costs and average yields, an average net or
                                                                              price for what people would be yielding in those crops over this sort
                                                                              of, this past three years, the estimate of the net profit would be
                                                                              $81,153 a year, which is great. It’s a profit, but not much of one
                                                                              when you consider all the risk that’s involved in that. But if you
                                                                              would’ve taken that same amount of value and invested in the S&P
                                                                              500 this past year, it would’ve netted you $4.9 million, and you
                                                                              could have sat home the whole time.
                                                                                 So, I guess I’m not making a case for farming economically
                                                                              speaking with that assessment. But I’m just trying to talk about
                                                                              how important it is that we have people who are willing to do this
                                                                              in our country, to feed America and people around the world who
                                                                              don’t have the ability to grow this kind of food, and how important
                                                                              the estate tax exemptions that we put in the bill and the Working




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                                                                              Families Tax Cut plan this year really were for that very example
                                                                              that I used.
                                                                                 Because the tax bill for that, were it not there, and you wanted
                                                                              to pass it on to the next generation, would’ve been $12 million. And
                                                                              $12 million at an average net profit of $81,000 a year, it would
                                                                              take you 147 years to pay that tax bill. And so, when we make poli-
                                                                              cies here with family farms in mind, and we hear the rhetoric
                                                                              around the estate tax, it’s just economics. People won’t stay in the
                                                                              family farming business if they can’t afford it, if they get charged
                                                                              a tax bill that they could never pay.
                                                                                 And so, Ms. Spurgin, I appreciate you being here. And I, I’m glad
                                                                              that you brought my friend Adam along with you as former Sec-
                                                                              retary of State. But does that sound like the kind of people that
                                                                              are the customers in your bank and the, the kind of issues that
                                                                              they contemplate when they’re making in financial decisions?
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Absolutely. And it’s unfortunate that the piece that
                                                                              is considered when a family farm is going to transition is to sell
                                                                              the farm. And that’s unfortunate.
                                                                                 Senator HUSTED. And what we did in the bill to help exempt
                                                                              them from that tax bill, does it save family farms?
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Yes, very much so.
                                                                                 Senator HUSTED. Thank you. Well, I’m glad to know that because
                                                                              I think it’s a virtuous goal, and I’m glad that we were able to get
                                                                              that accomplished and sort of make the economic—at least give a
                                                                              chance for the economics of this to work.
                                                                                 You talked about in your testimony, compliance burdens. Could
                                                                              you talk a little bit more about that as it relates to the how you,
                                                                              like, give us a flavor, if you could, about that farmer, about that
                                                                              family farm. They come to you and they’re looking for financing.
                                                                              Explain what that compliance burden means.
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Yeah. So, you know, at the very basic level, a lot
                                                                              of the requirements just at the very beginning in the application
                                                                              side, when you’re talking about business plans, financial state-
                                                                              ments projections and especially for either young borrowers or even
                                                                              new entrepreneurs into a new business, that’s really where we see
                                                                              the struggle is just having—you know, they’re all trying to do their
                                                                              work on a day-to-day basis, but then to have this additional burden
                                                                              of not opposed to providing projections or providing any of that.
                                                                                 It’s the level of compliance that’s required and the constant.
                                                                              What seems to be a constant back and forth between the applica-
                                                                              tion portal, and getting with the customer, and having them be
                                                                              able to set aside the time that’s required to put this together. You
                                                                              know, so that’s what we see from the front end.
                                                                                 Also, compliance issues related just simply around once an SBA
                                                                              loan is done around the guarantee where we have lived. Unfortu-
                                                                              nately, not all businesses remain as ongoing entities and have lived
                                                                              working through with SBA on the guarantee. And it is not an easy
                                                                              process. Something that you do at the very beginning that says you
                                                                              have a guarantee, and five years later, you unfortunately have to
                                                                              go back on that guarantee with SBA. And it is a very cumbersome
                                                                              process.
                                                                                 Unfortunately, the lender that did the loan that we did five years
                                                                              ago, I asked him, I said have you ever talked to anyone about an
                                                                              SBA loan? And he goes, I will never do one again. And it was a




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                                                                              good business. It was a purchase. It wasn’t even a startup. But,
                                                                              again, just the time that it took to close the loan, six months, and
                                                                              the unfortunate side is the sellers of existing businesses, they’ve
                                                                              got to be willing to stay hooked with that buyer to be able to work
                                                                              through that timeframe in that process. So, thank you for the ques-
                                                                              tion.
                                                                                 Senator HUSTED. Great. Thank you.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Yeah. Thank you. Senator Shaheen.
                                                                                 Senator SHAHEEN. Thank you, Madam Chair. One of the things
                                                                              that I think is quite apparent listening to the testimony of all of
                                                                              our witnesses, and the questions from you, Madam Chair, and the
                                                                              ranking member, is that farming isn’t the same all across the coun-
                                                                              try. And when SBA or USDA tries to make rules that apply to
                                                                              farms, there’s a really different ability for farmers to be able to
                                                                              benefit from those programs.
                                                                                 And as Senator Markey pointed out, and the witnesses from
                                                                              Massachusetts have pointed out, farming in New England is a
                                                                              whole lot different than farming in Iowa and in New Hampshire.
                                                                              We have a lot of small farms, a lot of organic farms and they have
                                                                              not been able to take advantage of a lot of the programs that are
                                                                              more available for larger farms.
                                                                                 And, Mr. Crowell, you talked about the federal food programs
                                                                              that play an important role in providing a revenue stream for busi-
                                                                              nesses and food producers. We’ve seen that in New Hampshire. We
                                                                              have one of the oldest food co-ops in the country. I’m sure you’re
                                                                              aware of the Hanover Food Co-op which I think is the second oldest
                                                                              in the country.
                                                                                 And one of the things that’s really helped that co-op and the one
                                                                              in Littleton, which is a smaller community, is the Local Food Pur-
                                                                              chase Assistance Cooperative Agreement program that you men-
                                                                              tioned, Ms. Maria. And one of the challenges is that our federal
                                                                              agencies, like so much of our bureaucracy, don’t talk to each other.
                                                                                 And so, if we want to promote small business farming, then we
                                                                              need to have SBA work with USDA. And what we saw with the
                                                                              LFPA program is that it was terminated back in March by USDA
                                                                              and what we lost in New Hampshire was $2.7 million to purchase
                                                                              food from local farms. And while that doesn’t sound like a lot, if
                                                                              you’re in Iowa or New York or California, that’s a lot in New
                                                                              Hampshire.
                                                                                 So, can you talk Mr. Crowell, about the consequences of the
                                                                              losses of this kind of federal funding for our small, small farms and
                                                                              what that means and how we should think about encouraging coop-
                                                                              erative agreements between federal agencies to avoid this kind of
                                                                              problem in the future?
                                                                                 Mr. CROWELL. Yes. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. And especially
                                                                              for your support of our family farmers and food co-ops in New
                                                                              Hampshire, as you mentioned our farms in the northeast are quite
                                                                              unique. They tend to be much smaller, much more diversified. They
                                                                              tend to be vulnerable to issues like climate change because they’re
                                                                              in very narrow river valleys. And often the services coming from
                                                                              USDA aren’t, aren’t quite appropriate. I mean, they’re easily ad-
                                                                              dressed, I think.
                                                                                 But it can be difficult for us and certainly for our food co-ops
                                                                              working to sustain those local farms and prioritize them. The sup-




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                                                                              port of the government has been very valuable and obviously has
                                                                              a knock-on effect in our rural communities. One key support has
                                                                              been the interagency working group on cooperative development, as
                                                                              you’re aware, which has representation from across various depart-
                                                                              ments and agencies.
                                                                                 We’ve seen renewed efforts during this Congress for SBA and
                                                                              USDA to better cooperate, which would make a big difference for
                                                                              us particularly on programs like disaster assistance. And I think
                                                                              that the lending programs coming through better collaboration
                                                                              through USDA and Rural Business Cooperative Services would
                                                                              make a world of difference for our region. Thank you.
                                                                                 Senator SHAHEEN. Thank you. And just to follow-up on that, Ms.
                                                                              Spurgin, you’ve spoke eloquently about the challenges of what wait
                                                                              times do for all small businesses, but I think it’s a particular prob-
                                                                              lem for small family farms. And we’ve seen that, again, especially
                                                                              with USDA and with some of the programs, the REAP program,
                                                                              which helps with energy costs, which in New England, as we know,
                                                                              is a big cost.
                                                                                 And we are very affected by climate change and what happens
                                                                              to a business. We have four farms in New Hampshire that have
                                                                              been waiting for more than a year for their REAP funding. What
                                                                              happens to small businesses and farms when they have to wait
                                                                              that long a time in order to know whether they’re going to get the
                                                                              funding they need to go forward with the project?
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Thank you for the question, Senator. My experi-
                                                                              ence is they give up, which is, I think, unfortunate.
                                                                                 Senator SHAHEEN. Sadly, what we see. And so, thinking about
                                                                              how this committee can better work with, since I’m on Ag Approps,
                                                                              I can talk about the agriculture side, but how can we better work
                                                                              with the agriculture authorizing committee to look at some of the
                                                                              challenges as we want to promote our small family farms? I hope
                                                                              that we can think about ways to do that. Thank you, Madam
                                                                              Chair.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Yes. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Young.
                                                                                 Senator YOUNG. Well, thank you, Chair, Ranking Member, for
                                                                              holding this hearing. I think it’s been really important. I want to
                                                                              thank our witnesses for your testimony today.
                                                                                 Great state of Indiana, we have a lot of farms of course associ-
                                                                              ated with that. A lot of vibrant farm communities, and some that
                                                                              have lost some of their vibrancy over the years. One of the many
                                                                              challenges they’re facing right now is they’re dealing with a silver
                                                                              tsunami. This is not unique to farm country or to farm operations.
                                                                              But it can be especially acute in some of our rural communities.
                                                                                 In fact, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, half of small busi-
                                                                              nesses are owned by individuals who will reach retirement age
                                                                              within the next 10 years. When these farmers exit agriculture
                                                                              without a clear exit strategy, a clear succession plan, farms are
                                                                              often sold or consolidated. Young and beginning farmers face espe-
                                                                              cially high barriers to entry, and rural communities lose jobs, lose
                                                                              population, and lose economic activity.
                                                                                 Ms. Spurgin, what are the biggest barriers that young or first-
                                                                              generation entrepreneurs tend to face when trying to start a busi-
                                                                              ness, or take over an existing farm, or rural small business?




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                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. Thank you for the question, Senator. From my ex-
                                                                              perience, that has been the cash down payment requirements. Spe-
                                                                              cifically, within the SBA programs, it’s at least a 10 percent cash
                                                                              down payment. A lot of what we look at with portfolio lending is
                                                                              the seller or however they’re transitioning out, that equity may be
                                                                              held and would typically be land, buildings, other equipment. You
                                                                              know, so giving the borrower value for that equity versus having
                                                                              it be all cash.
                                                                                 Senator YOUNG. You have some related challenges in the housing
                                                                              market that there’ve been some creative financial instruments that
                                                                              I know are being structured to try and address that. It’s a little
                                                                              outside the scope of what I intend to ask about, but thank you.
                                                                                 Is our existing SBA loan programs, in your mind, flexible enough
                                                                              to help young farmers and entrepreneurs buy into established oper-
                                                                              ations rather than starting from scratch?
                                                                                 Ms. SPURGIN. In lieu of the cash down payment requirements, if
                                                                              it’s an established business, I would say yes just because the his-
                                                                              torical financials are there. So, you’re able to have some data to
                                                                              base your projections off of, but to start something from scratch, I
                                                                              hate to know that the number of folks that wouldn’t qualify simply
                                                                              from that.
                                                                                 Senator YOUNG. Yeah. Maybe that’s something we take a look at,
                                                                              see if the SBA programs could accommodate that. I’m going to go
                                                                              ahead and open this up to Mr. Funke or our other witnesses. Do
                                                                              you have anything to add on this topic of succession planning and
                                                                              ways Congress maybe can soften the impact to this challenge?
                                                                                 Mr. FUNKE. Yes, I do. In fact, if you noticed in my bio, I listed
                                                                              that I’m only the sales manager there now. That says I promoted
                                                                              my daughter to the general manager right before I left.
                                                                                 Senator YOUNG. I see.
                                                                                 Mr. FUNKE. So, yeah, that is a very important part. I am 67
                                                                              years of age. I enjoy what I do. I’m not looking to get out just yet,
                                                                              but I also know that we need to keep the younger generation in-
                                                                              volved, and get them up there, and get them running.
                                                                                 We have a small farm, in today’s world. We are farming roughly
                                                                              around 550 acres that my brother and I own. And then my two
                                                                              sons, JC and Matt, help me and my brother with that farming op-
                                                                              eration. And they just recently purchased 70 acres with help
                                                                              through the USDA, the FSA program as beginning farmers.
                                                                                 I’ve had them working with us in the last 10 years to help build
                                                                              up that, you know, ability to do something like that. It is not some-
                                                                              thing that you can do overnight, and the ability to start into farm-
                                                                              ing or any small business is going to require the help of somebody
                                                                              that is willing to get them going, whether it’s, you know, in our
                                                                              business. You said 25 years. Del Clay started in 1974, and it actu-
                                                                              ally goes back to 1947 when it was started by another individual.
                                                                                 Senator YOUNG. So, Mr. Funke, having just gone through this ex-
                                                                              perience and being, you know, fairly versed in it, you clearly took
                                                                              away because you just shared it with us that you can’t start right
                                                                              as you’re looking to retire, but were there program adjustments
                                                                              that you feel like would make it easier on people like yourself try-
                                                                              ing to make this transition to the next generation?
                                                                                 Mr. FUNKE. Absolutely. You know, for this next generation to get
                                                                              going in the correct manner, they need to have some skin in the




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                                                                              game, and they need to be able to go out and borrow some money.
                                                                              If all their money is coming from dad, or mom, or their great uncle,
                                                                              that makes it more difficult to get these things going.
                                                                                 But to Ms. Spurgin’s comment that six months is too long for
                                                                              these things to take, I’ve put together a lot of financing for farmers,
                                                                              and the urgency of getting these things done quickly through leas-
                                                                              ing, through longer-term financing with other lenders is very im-
                                                                              portant.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Yes. And we do have just a few minutes before we close,
                                                                              if the rest of you would like to add comment as well, Mr. Crowell.
                                                                                 Mr. CROWELL. Sure. Thank you. Yeah, this is another area busi-
                                                                              ness succession that co-ops can play a key difference. But there’s
                                                                              not the technical support out there from SBA to communicate to
                                                                              business owners that option, what it might look like, how to be-
                                                                              come a cooperative.
                                                                                 We have examples of things like farm supply businesses hard-
                                                                              ware stores that have converted to cooperative structures and
                                                                              therefore remained in the community. And then on the food co-op
                                                                              side, changing these personal guarantee requirements could free
                                                                              food co-ops to expand their purchases of local goods.
                                                                                 As I mentioned, on average, food co-ops buy from 169 local pro-
                                                                              ducers. They’re also often areas where new farmers can try new
                                                                              products. They’re willing to experiment with new products and
                                                                              services. And you see many examples of local farmers that started
                                                                              just selling to their local food co-op and now are large businesses
                                                                              distributing to major buyers.
                                                                                 Senator YOUNG. Great.
                                                                                 CHAIR. And, Ms. Moreira, did you have any comments?
                                                                                 Ms. MOREIRA. Yes. I just wanted before closing to focus on the
                                                                              LFPA, and the need for the LFPA program for small farmers. And
                                                                              during the last one year, we serviced 500—we purchased aggregate
                                                                              from 500 farmers, small farmers in Massachusetts, in New Eng-
                                                                              land.
                                                                                 And the effects of the cancellation in March was devastating. In
                                                                              March, farmers had already purchased their seeds. They had al-
                                                                              ready started their seedlings. All of the planning for the season has
                                                                              already been done. They had already invested in all of the system
                                                                              of doing their crops this season.
                                                                                 So, finding a market at that point, the food finding a market was
                                                                              next to impossible. So, we did the best we could. All farmers that
                                                                              were part of the program did the best they could, but crops were
                                                                              left in the field unsold. So, that’s really, really, really important for
                                                                              us to know how important that program is, still is, in how dev-
                                                                              astating the cancellation of it was. I could go on, you know, but I
                                                                              think my time is up. Thank you.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Thank you. Yes, we appreciate the comments today.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Just ask one quick question, if I may.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Yeah, of course.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Yeah. Thank you. I went to the farm in Ireland
                                                                              that my grandmother had to leave because the succession program
                                                                              in Ireland was the oldest gets the farm and everyone else moves
                                                                              to America. So, I went to the farm just to see, and this woman is
                                                                              like the twin of my mother, but my mother was—you know, that
                                                                              part of the family, it was down the food chain.




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                                                                                 So, they all had to come to Boston. And a beautiful farm. You
                                                                              know, I could see just that birth order might have changed my
                                                                              whole history in terms of what the succession plan was. And then,
                                                                              my father was a milkman, so he took us up to Beverly Farms to
                                                                              see where the milk came from the cows, and then he would be de-
                                                                              livering the milk. So, we moved to the retail side of farming in one
                                                                              generation. And so, that’s my relationship with it.
                                                                                 And, Mr. Crowell, I’d just like to know what did the cuts in the
                                                                              SNAP program’s supplemental nutrition program, what impact did
                                                                              that have on small farmers across Massachusetts, but across New
                                                                              England, and the country?
                                                                                 Mr. CROWELL. Yes. Thank you for the question. I think really
                                                                              that the challenge around the cuts to SNAP benefits, obviously, it
                                                                              has a deep impact on food security, particularly in rural areas. But
                                                                              it also has a knock-on effect. What it meant was people with lim-
                                                                              ited incomes had less money to spend on healthy food and gro-
                                                                              ceries, which means sales would go down for the food co-op, which
                                                                              meant that the co-op couldn’t buy as much product from, from local
                                                                              farmers.
                                                                                 So, I think when we think about how these benefits impact not
                                                                              just individuals, families on limited incomes, we have to think
                                                                              about them more systemically as well and understand that they
                                                                              are part of a more sustainable and fair food system that can keep
                                                                              people well fed and healthy over time.
                                                                                 Senator MARKEY. Okay. Great. Thank you, Madam Chair.
                                                                                 CHAIR. Wonderful. Well, again, I do want to thank our witnesses
                                                                              for being here today. I ask unanimous consent that the record of
                                                                              today’s hearing remain open for two weeks for members to submit
                                                                              questions, revise and extend their remarks, and submit additional
                                                                              information into the record. Without objection, so ordered.
                                                                                 And again, thank you very much for this important committee
                                                                              meeting today. And with that, the Committee on Small Business
                                                                              and Entrepreneurship stands adjourned.
                                                                                 [Whereupon, at 3:42 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]




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