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Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action — House Hearing (July 15, 2021)

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This is the printed record of Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action, a remote hearing of the House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis held July 15, 2021, Serial No. 117–7. Chair Kathy Castor of Florida and Ranking Member Garret Graves of Louisiana gave opening statements. The witnesses were Catherine Coleman Flowers of the Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice, Nikki Cooley of the Institute for Tribal Environmental Professionals at Northern Arizona University, Derrick Hollie of Reaching America, and Dr. R. Jisung Park of the Luskin School of Public Affairs at the University of California Los Angeles. Castor opened by citing a western heat wave that took the lives of nearly 200 Americans and capped the hottest June in the nation's history.

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                                                                                                  ADVANCING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
                                                                                                      THROUGH CLIMATE ACTION




                                                                                                                        HEARING
                                                                                                                               BEFORE THE


                                                                                                  SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE
                                                                                                       CLIMATE CRISIS
                                                                                                  HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
                                                                                                  ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS
                                                                                                                             FIRST SESSION


                                                                                                                             HEARING HELD
                                                                                                                              JULY 15, 2021



                                                                                                                    Serial No. 117–7




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                                                                                                       SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE CLIMATE CRISIS

                                                                                                                 ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS
                                                                                                             KATHY CASTOR, Florida, Chair
                                                                                    SUZANNE BONAMICI, Oregon             GARRET GRAVES, Louisiana,
                                                                                    JULIA BROWNLEY, California             Ranking Member
                                                                                    JARED HUFFMAN, California            GARY PALMER, Alabama
                                                                                    A. DONALD MCEACHIN, Virginia         BUDDY CARTER, Georgia
                                                                                    MIKE LEVIN, California               CAROL MILLER, West Virginia
                                                                                    SEAN CASTEN, Illinois                KELLY ARMSTRONG, North Dakota
                                                                                    JOE NEGUSE, Colorado                 DAN CRENSHAW, Texas
                                                                                    VERONICA ESCOBAR, Texas              ANTHONY GONZALEZ, Ohio


                                                                                                                 ANA UNRUH COHEN, Majority Staff Director
                                                                                                                   MARTY HALL, Minority Staff Director
                                                                                                                         climatecrisis.house.gov




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                                                                                                               STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Page
                                                                                    Hon. Kathy Castor, a Representative in Congress from the State of Florida,
                                                                                     and Chair, Select Committee on the Climate Crisis:
                                                                                        Opening Statement ...........................................................................................                1
                                                                                        Prepared Statement .........................................................................................                 3
                                                                                    Hon. Garret Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of Lou-
                                                                                     isiana, and Ranking Member, Select Committee on the Climate Crisis:
                                                                                        Opening Statement ...........................................................................................                3

                                                                                                                                            WITNESSES
                                                                                    Catherine Coleman Flowers, Founder and Director, Center for Rural Enter-
                                                                                      prise and Environmental Justice
                                                                                        Oral Statement .................................................................................................             6
                                                                                        Prepared Statement .........................................................................................                 8
                                                                                    Nikki Cooley, Co-Manager, Tribes & Climate Change Program and Interim
                                                                                      Assistant Director, Institute for Tribal Environmental Professionals (ITEP),
                                                                                      Northern Arizona University
                                                                                        Oral Statement .................................................................................................            10
                                                                                        Prepared Statement .........................................................................................                11
                                                                                    Derrick Hollie, Founder and President, Reaching America
                                                                                        Oral Statement .................................................................................................            17
                                                                                        Prepared Statement .........................................................................................                18
                                                                                    Dr. R. Jisung Park, Assistant Professor of Public Policy, Luskin School of
                                                                                      Public Affairs, University of California Los Angeles
                                                                                        Oral Statement .................................................................................................            19
                                                                                        Prepared Statement .........................................................................................                21

                                                                                                                         SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD
                                                                                    Introduction to the Report from Center for Progressive Reform, Earthjustice,
                                                                                      and the Union of Concerned Scientists Preventing Double Disasters: How
                                                                                      the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency Can Protect the Public from
                                                                                      Hazardous Chemical Releases Worsened by Natural Disasters, submitted
                                                                                      for the record by Ms. Castor ...............................................................................                  48
                                                                                    Article from Earth’s Future, ‘‘Widespread race and class disparities in surface
                                                                                      urban heat extremes across the United States,’’ submitted for the record
                                                                                      by Ms. Castor .......................................................................................................         48
                                                                                    Republican Committee Staff Analysis of the average cost of electricity bills
                                                                                      in California if the Louisiana electricity rate was applied, using April
                                                                                      2021 data from Saveonenergy.com, submitted for the record by Mr. Graves .                                                     49
                                                                                    Letter from Matthew Jewell, St. Charles Parish President; Pete Dufresne,
                                                                                      St. James Parish President; and Clint Cointment, Ascension Parish Presi-
                                                                                      dent, to President Biden regarding the industrial corridor that spans from
                                                                                      Baton Rouge to New Orleans, Louisiana, submitted for the record by Mr.
                                                                                      Graves ...................................................................................................................    50

                                                                                                                                             APPENDIX
                                                                                    Questions for the Record from Hon. Kathy Castor to Catherine Coleman
                                                                                     Flowers ..................................................................................................................     52
                                                                                    Questions for the Record from Hon. Kathy Castor to Nikki Cooley ....................                                            53




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                                                                                            ADVANCING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE
                                                                                                THROUGH CLIMATE ACTION

                                                                                                                  THURSDAY, JULY 15, 2021

                                                                                                            U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
                                                                                                      SELECT COMMITTEE ON THE CLIMATE CRISIS,
                                                                                                                                     Washington, DC.
                                                                                       The committee met, pursuant to call, at 2:34 p.m., via Zoom,
                                                                                    Hon. Kathy Castor [chairwoman of the committee] presiding.
                                                                                       Present: Representatives Castor, Bonamici, Brownley, Huffman,
                                                                                    McEachin, Levin, Casten, Graves, Palmer, Carter, Miller, and Gon-
                                                                                    zalez.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. The committee will come to order.
                                                                                       Without objection, the chair is authorized to declare a recess of
                                                                                    the committee at any time. As a reminder, members participating
                                                                                    in the hearing remotely should be visible on camera throughout the
                                                                                    hearing. As with in-person meetings, members are responsible for
                                                                                    controlling their own microphones. Members can be muted by staff
                                                                                    only to avoid inadvertent background noise.
                                                                                       In addition, statements, documents, or motions must be submit-
                                                                                    ted to the electronic repository to SCCC.repository@mail.house.gov.
                                                                                    Finally, members or witnesses experiencing technical problems
                                                                                    should inform the committee staff immediately.
                                                                                       Well, good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us at this
                                                                                    remote hearing today. Today, we are looking at how we can ad-
                                                                                    vance environmental justice through climate action, and I recognize
                                                                                    myself for 5 minutes for an opening statement.
                                                                                       Now, during our last committee hearing, the West faced an un-
                                                                                    precedented heat wave, one that shattered temperature records. It
                                                                                    melted power cables and tragically took the lives of nearly 200
                                                                                    Americans. The extreme heat capped the hottest June in our na-
                                                                                    tion’s history and scientists warn it would have been virtually im-
                                                                                    possible without the influence of human-caused climate change.
                                                                                       This week, unfortunately, a new and dangerous heat wave is
                                                                                    threatening summer crops, sparking wildfires, straining power
                                                                                    grids, and putting more lives in danger. And on the East Coast,
                                                                                    commuters waded through waist-deep water to reach the New York
                                                                                    City subway after heavy rains flooded underground stations across
                                                                                    the city. There is no denying it: We are in a climate crisis, and we
                                                                                    must act boldly to keep temperatures in check as we help our
                                                                                    neighborhoods to adapt to threats that are already here.
                                                                                       From scorching heat waves to stronger storms, the climate crisis
                                                                                    affects each community differently, but its worst effects are felt by
                                                                                    Americans in environmental justice communities, which include




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                                                                                    communities. That is why environmental justice must be at the
                                                                                    center of climate action. It is why environmental justice is the cor-
                                                                                    nerstone of our climate crisis action plan. And it is why today we
                                                                                    will focus on advancing environmental justice through climate ac-
                                                                                    tion. Throughout our history, Black, Brown, indigenous, and low-
                                                                                    income Americans have been disproportionately harmed by pollu-
                                                                                    tion, and today they are more vulnerable to the effects of climate
                                                                                    change. Black American children are five times likelier than White
                                                                                    children to be admitted to the hospital for asthma. Latinos are
                                                                                    twice as likely to live in areas threatened by wildfires. Commu-
                                                                                    nities that have few trees or places to cool off have deadlier out-
                                                                                    comes when the weather hits triple digits. Tribes are watching
                                                                                    their way of life disrupted by climate-fueled weather extremes,
                                                                                    wildlife loss, and sea level rise. And in Puerto Rico, families are
                                                                                    still living with blue plastic tarps over their homes nearly 4 years
                                                                                    after Hurricane Maria blew away their roofs.
                                                                                       This is not a coincidence. Environmental justice communities
                                                                                    have long been harmed by chronic under investment and systemic
                                                                                    failures that make it harder for them to bounce back after disaster
                                                                                    strikes. They have also been subject to racist zoning codes, mort-
                                                                                    gage lending discrimination, and disproportionate proximity to fac-
                                                                                    tories, waste sites, and other sources of pollution.
                                                                                       Climate change acts as a threat multiplier taking existing social
                                                                                    and economic inequities and making them worse. That is why cli-
                                                                                    mate action must be centered in righting these wrongs, ensuring
                                                                                    we do not repeat the mistakes and injustices of the past. Solving
                                                                                    the climate crisis is about more than just reducing pollution; it is
                                                                                    about boosting resilience in vulnerable communities, and it is about
                                                                                    repairing the legacy of environmental racism.
                                                                                       And as we expand clean energy and rebuild our infrastructure,
                                                                                    we have to be intentional about elevating environmental justice
                                                                                    communities to make sure the benefits are reaching the most vul-
                                                                                    nerable Americans.
                                                                                       Thanks to the leadership of colleagues like Representative
                                                                                    McEachin, we have made progress on this front as we listen to the
                                                                                    priorities of environmental justice communities and translate them
                                                                                    into solutions. We passed President Biden’s American Rescue Plan,
                                                                                    which included critical funding for environmental justice programs
                                                                                    at EPA. We also passed the INVEST in America Act, which makes
                                                                                    record investments in mass transit, expands funding for water in-
                                                                                    frastructure and resilience, and creates a groundbreaking program
                                                                                    to reconnect environmental justice communities divided by high-
                                                                                    ways.
                                                                                       This is going to be a very important hearing for all of us, and
                                                                                    I look forward to hearing our outstanding witnesses.
                                                                                       At this time, I will turn it over to Ranking Member Graves for
                                                                                    his 5 minute opening statement.
                                                                                       [The statement of Ms. Castor follows:]




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                                                                                                            Opening Statement of Chair Kathy Castor
                                                                                         Hearing on ‘‘Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action’’
                                                                                                             Select Committee on the Climate Crisis
                                                                                                                               July 15, 2021
                                                                                                                         As prepared for delivery
                                                                                       During our last Committee hearing, the West faced an unprecedented heat
                                                                                    wave—one that shattered temperature records, melted power cables, and tragically
                                                                                    took the lives of nearly 200 Americans. The extreme heat capped the hottest June
                                                                                    in our nation’s history. And scientists warned it would have been ‘‘virtually impos-
                                                                                    sible’’ without the influence of human-caused climate change. This week, unfortu-
                                                                                    nately, a new and dangerous heat wave is threatening summer crops, sparking
                                                                                    wildfires, straining power grids, and putting more lives in danger. And on the East
                                                                                    Coast, commuters waded through waist-deep water to reach the New York City sub-
                                                                                    way, after heavy rains flooded underground stations across the city. There is no de-
                                                                                    nying it: we are in a climate crisis. And we must act boldly to keep temperatures
                                                                                    in check, as we help our neighborhoods adapt to threats that are already here.
                                                                                       From scorching heat waves to stronger storms, the climate crisis affects each com-
                                                                                    munity differently. But its worst effects are felt by Americans in environmental jus-
                                                                                    tice communities, which include communities of color, low-income communities, and
                                                                                    Indigenous communities. That’s why environmental justice must be at the center of
                                                                                    climate action. It’s why environmental justice is a cornerstone of our Climate Crisis
                                                                                    Action Plan. And it’s why today we’ll focus on advancing environmental justice
                                                                                    through climate action.
                                                                                       Throughout our history, Black, Brown, Indigenous, and low-income Americans
                                                                                    have been disproportionately harmed by pollution. And today, they’re more vulner-
                                                                                    able to the effects of climate change: Black American children are five times likelier
                                                                                    than white children to be admitted to the hospital for asthma. Latinos are twice as
                                                                                    likely to live in areas most threatened by wildfires. Communities that have few
                                                                                    trees or places to cool off have deadlier outcomes when the weather hits triple dig-
                                                                                    its. Tribes are watching their way of life disrupted by climate-fueled weather ex-
                                                                                    tremes, wildlife loss, and sea-level rise. And in Puerto Rico, families are still living
                                                                                    with blue plastic tarps over their homes, nearly four years after a hurricane blew
                                                                                    away their roofs.
                                                                                       This is not a coincidence. EJ communities have long been harmed by chronic
                                                                                    underinvestment and systemic failures that make it harder for them to bounce back
                                                                                    after disaster strikes. They’ve also been subject to racist zoning codes, mortgage
                                                                                    lending discrimination, and a disproportionate proximity to factories, waste sites,
                                                                                    and other sources of pollution. Climate change acts as a threat multiplier, taking
                                                                                    existing social and economic inequities and making them worse. That’s why climate
                                                                                    action must be centered in righting these wrongs, ensuring we do not repeat the
                                                                                    mistakes and injustices of the past. Solving the climate crisis is about more than
                                                                                    just reducing pollution. It’s about boosting resilience in vulnerable communities.
                                                                                    And it’s about repairing the legacy of environmental racism. As we expand clean en-
                                                                                    ergy and rebuild our infrastructure, we have to be intentional about elevating EJ
                                                                                    communities, to make sure these benefits are reaching the most vulnerable Ameri-
                                                                                    cans.
                                                                                       Thanks to the leadership of colleagues like Rep. McEachin, we’ve made progress
                                                                                    on this front, as we listen to the priorities of EJ communities and translate them
                                                                                    into solutions. We passed President Biden’s American Rescue Plan, which included
                                                                                    critical funding for EJ grant programs at the EPA. We also passed the Invest in
                                                                                    America Act, which makes record investments in mass transit; expands funding for
                                                                                    water infrastructure and resilience; and creates a groundbreaking program to recon-
                                                                                    nect EJ communities divided by highways.
                                                                                       This summer, we have an opportunity to further advance justice by passing the
                                                                                    American Jobs Plan, which would direct 40% of the benefits of infrastructure invest-
                                                                                    ments to EJ communities. The American Jobs Plan includes crucial programs to ele-
                                                                                    vate communities of color. And it gives us a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to build
                                                                                    an economy that works for everyone.
                                                                                       With that, I’d like to thank our incredible panel of witnesses for being here, and
                                                                                    I look forward to our conversation.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Thank you, Madam Chair. And I want to welcome




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                                                                                    Ms. Flowers, Ms. Cooley, Dr. Park, and Mr. Hollie. Thank you for
                                                                                    joining us today. Looking forward to your testimony.




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                                                                                       When we talk about environmental justice, I think it is impor-
                                                                                    tant that we talk about disadvantaged communities. I think it is
                                                                                    important that we look at policies that have been carried out and
                                                                                    use evidence to inform our policies, our bills, our legislation, our
                                                                                    strategies as we move forward to a clean energy future, a cleaner
                                                                                    energy future in the United States.
                                                                                       And I know that my friends, Mr. Huffman and Mr. Levin, are
                                                                                    going to be shocked to hear me cite California as an example today,
                                                                                    but I do. I want to cite California because I think it is an example
                                                                                    of how flawed policies can actually be regressive and can actually
                                                                                    exacerbate challenges that some of our disadvantaged communities
                                                                                    may be experiencing. It can cause disproportionate burdens to
                                                                                    those communities.
                                                                                       In the State of California, a coalition of civil rights leaders have
                                                                                    actually sued the state over the aggressive impact of climate poli-
                                                                                    cies on their disadvantaged communities. As a matter of fact, you
                                                                                    can look right now and these programs, these policies have resulted
                                                                                    in the State of California, Californians, paying 50 percent more, on
                                                                                    average, for electricity costs and about 80 cents more per gallon to
                                                                                    fuel their cars. And that is compared to the national average. As
                                                                                    a matter of fact, in the lawsuit that was filed against the State of
                                                                                    California, citing these regressive policies, they say: ‘‘California’s
                                                                                    climate change policies, and specifically those policies that increase
                                                                                    the cost and delay or reduce the availability of housing, that in-
                                                                                    crease the cost of transportation fuels and intentionally worsen
                                                                                    highway congestion to lengthen commute times, and further in-
                                                                                    crease electricity costs, have caused and will cause unconstitutional
                                                                                    and unlawful disparate impacts to California’s minority popu-
                                                                                    lations. . . .
                                                                                       California’s climate policies guarantee that housing, transpor-
                                                                                    tation and electricity prices will continue to rise while ‘‘gateway’’
                                                                                    jobs to the middle class for those without college degrees, such as
                                                                                    manufacturing and logistics, will continue to locate in other states.’’
                                                                                       And I think we have seen that. California’s policies have resulted
                                                                                    in some of actually the highest emissions growth in the United
                                                                                    States, and it is a disturbing trend in that you are causing dis-
                                                                                    proportionate impacts to disadvantaged communities and actually
                                                                                    resulting in higher emissions.
                                                                                       And I remind you, the State of California is the only state with
                                                                                    five severe nonattainment areas in the state. Therefore, as the
                                                                                    chair talked about, cases of asthma and other health challenges
                                                                                    that disproportionately impact our kids certainly are exacerbated
                                                                                    in that state as a result of policies that are purported to help to
                                                                                    address climate change and reduce emissions.
                                                                                       My home state of Louisiana if California rates applied, we would
                                                                                    be paying approximately double the electricity bills that we cur-
                                                                                    rently pay in our state. And if we are going to talk about—if we
                                                                                    are going to talk about disproportionate impact and environmental
                                                                                    justice, I want to remind the committee, my home state of Lou-
                                                                                    isiana, we have one of the highest African-American population
                                                                                    percentages in the United States. We have one of the highest per-
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                                                                                       Let’s talk about environmental justice. The justice to our state,
                                                                                    to our citizens whenever the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers levied




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                                                                                    the rivers causing the greatest loss of wetlands in the continental
                                                                                    United States constituting 90 percent of that loss and, unfortu-
                                                                                    nately, many of my friends that are on this committee that talk
                                                                                    about their willingness or their desire to restore the environment
                                                                                    and protect disadvantaged communities are repeatedly fighting our
                                                                                    efforts to restore our coastal ecosystem to protect these commu-
                                                                                    nities from dangerous storms, hurricanes, and floods.
                                                                                       And so it is especially concerning that, as we move forward, we
                                                                                    move forward based on science, based on data, based on evidence,
                                                                                    and building upon the success that the United States has had in
                                                                                    reducing emissions more than the next 12 emissions-reducing coun-
                                                                                    tries combined.
                                                                                       So, Madam Chair, with that, I look forward to hearing from our
                                                                                    witnesses.
                                                                                       And I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Without objection, the members who wish to enter
                                                                                    opening statements into the record have 5 business days to do so.
                                                                                    Now, I would like to welcome our witnesses. We will hear from
                                                                                    prominent community leaders and researchers on why it is critical
                                                                                    to invest in environmental justice. Catherine Coleman Flowers is
                                                                                    the Founder of the Center For Rural Enterprise and Environ-
                                                                                    mental Justice. She is an internationally recognized advocate for
                                                                                    the human right to water and sanitation, and she works to improve
                                                                                    access to clean air, water, and soil in marginalized rural commu-
                                                                                    nities. In 2020, Ms. Flowers received the prestigious MacArthur
                                                                                    Fellowship.
                                                                                       Nikki Cooley is the Co-manager of the Tribes and Climate
                                                                                    Change program, as well as the Interim Assistant Director of the
                                                                                    Institute for Tribal Environmental Professionals at Northern Ari-
                                                                                    zona University. Ms. Cooley leads a program to help Tribal Nations
                                                                                    as they address and prepare for climate impacts. She works with
                                                                                    Tribal and indigenous partners across the Continental United
                                                                                    States and Alaska on climate change adaptation, mitigation, and
                                                                                    resilience planning. Ms. Cooley is of the Dine Navajo Nation.
                                                                                       Derrick Hollie is the Founder and President of Reaching Amer-
                                                                                    ica, a nonprofit organization with the focus on African-American
                                                                                    outreach. Mr. Hollie has over 25 years of experience in advertising
                                                                                    and marketing.
                                                                                       Dr. Jisung Park is an Assistant Professor of Public Policy at
                                                                                    UCLA’s Luskin School of Public Affairs. Dr. Park is an expert in
                                                                                    environmental economics, labor economics, and public finance. His
                                                                                    research focuses on how climate change affects social and economic
                                                                                    outcomes. In particular, Dr. Park studies the labor and human cap-
                                                                                    ital impacts of climate change, the prospects for long run climate
                                                                                    adaptation, and environmental determinants of economic mobility.
                                                                                       Without objection, the witnesses’ written statements will be
                                                                                    made part of the record.
                                                                                       With that, Ms. Flowers, you are now recognized to give a 5-
                                                                                    minute presentation of your testimony. Welcome.




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                                                                                    STATEMENTS OF CATHERINE COLEMAN FLOWERS, FOUNDER
                                                                                     AND DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR RURAL ENTERPRISE AND EN-
                                                                                     VIRONMENTAL JUSTICE; NIKKI COOLEY, CO-MANAGER,
                                                                                     TRIBES & CLIMATE CHANGE PROGRAM, AND INTERIM AS-
                                                                                     SISTANT DIRECTOR, INSTITUTE FOR TRIBAL ENVIRON-
                                                                                     MENTAL PROFESSIONALS (ITEP), NORTHERN ARIZONA UNI-
                                                                                     VERSITY; DERRICK HOLLIE, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT,
                                                                                     REACHING AMERICA; AND R. JISUNG PARK, ASSISTANT PRO-
                                                                                     FESSOR, UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES
                                                                                               STATEMENT OF CATHERINE COLEMAN FLOWERS
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Thank you. Thank you, Chair Castor, Ranking
                                                                                    Member Graves, and all the members of the Select Committee for
                                                                                    the opportunity to testify. Again, my name is Catherine Coleman
                                                                                    Flowers. I am the Rural Development Manager for the Equal Jus-
                                                                                    tice Initiative and the Founding Director of the Center for Rural
                                                                                    Enterprise and Environmental Justice in Montgomery, Alabama. I
                                                                                    also serve as a Practitioner in Residence at Duke University, a
                                                                                    member of the board of advisers for the Center for Earth Ethics at
                                                                                    Union Theological Seminary, as well as the boards of the Natural
                                                                                    Resource Defense Council, and the Climate Reality Project. As
                                                                                    Chair Castor stated, in 2020, I was awarded the MacArthur Fel-
                                                                                    lowship in environmental health, and I authored the book entitled
                                                                                    ‘‘Waste: One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret.’’ In
                                                                                    this book, I uncovered the extent to which rural America has been
                                                                                    denied access to sustainable and resilient sanitation infrastructure.
                                                                                       I am a proud native of Lowndes County, Alabama, a rural area
                                                                                    located between Selma and Montgomery. Lowndes County, too, has
                                                                                    as a proud history of fighting for equality and the right to vote. In
                                                                                    addition, in the early 1900s, sharecroppers organized for jobs and
                                                                                    justice. Many of its sons, and later its daughters, including my fa-
                                                                                    ther, my three brothers, and myself, served in the United States
                                                                                    military. We have a deep legacy of holding up core democratic val-
                                                                                    ues, even when they failed us. Most of all, I stand on the values
                                                                                    I learned as a country girl that grew up with a healthy respect for
                                                                                    nature, and I appreciate what our Creator has provided for us,
                                                                                    which includes the knowledge to know when we are out of balance
                                                                                    with Creation.
                                                                                       That failure is exemplified through fish kills, more powerful
                                                                                    storms, higher groundwater tables in some areas, drought in other
                                                                                    areas, floods, unsafe mobile homes, high electric bills, pollution,
                                                                                    straight piping of raw sewage, or failing wastewater systems. I
                                                                                    have often taken policymakers, philanthropists and people from
                                                                                    both sides of the aisle, from Jeff Sessions to Doug Jones to Robert
                                                                                    Woodson, to Lowndes County to see the infrastructure inequalities
                                                                                    that exist and to hear from local people what is needed to address
                                                                                    them. At the height of the pandemic, Lowndes County had the
                                                                                    highest death and infection rate per capita for COVID in the State
                                                                                    of Alabama. Sadly, as one travels through Lowndes County now,
                                                                                    the fresh graves of the victims of COVID are a constant reminder
                                                                                    of what happens when poverty, inequality, failing or no sanitation
                                                                                    infrastructure, and climate change comes together.




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                                                                                       The climate crisis impacts all of us, whether one is in Louisiana,
                                                                                    which has been losing at least 25 square miles of land per year,




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                                                                                    or in Alabama where more intense tropical storms can harm hous-
                                                                                    ing, roads, transportation arteries, or more valuable infrastructure.
                                                                                    Throughout our nation, we are dealing with failing infrastructure,
                                                                                    and it includes the most basic infrastructure, sanitation.
                                                                                       Because I am a country girl, I like to speak in plain English like
                                                                                    I would if I was at home speaking to local people, my relatives. In
                                                                                    the town of Hayneville, Alabama, the county seat of Lowndes, for
                                                                                    more than 20 years, Ms. Charlie Mae Holcombe has been telling
                                                                                    people about the sewage from a nearby lagoon that has been back-
                                                                                    ing up into her home. Yet the failing infrastructure continues to
                                                                                    fail, and she continues to cry for help. She is paying a wastewater
                                                                                    treatment fee, yet all the town can provide is a pump truck to
                                                                                    pump sewage out of her yard from time to time. The failure is more
                                                                                    pronounced when there is a hard rain.
                                                                                       This is emblematic of failing wastewater infrastructure across
                                                                                    the United States. It is something we need to address, and our
                                                                                    rural communities should not be left to their own devices as they
                                                                                    struggle to cope with the climate crisis and the lack of investment
                                                                                    in sustainable infrastructure that goes back decades. Failure is re-
                                                                                    peating the same thing over and over again and expecting different
                                                                                    results.
                                                                                       Despite being knowledgeable of the failures of the lagoon system,
                                                                                    a similar design to the one in Hayneville is being planned in the
                                                                                    town of White Hall along Highway 80. This sewage lagoon would
                                                                                    sit next to an elementary school. The liability for failing septic
                                                                                    tanks in this system would be transferred to homeowners. This
                                                                                    does not consider the failures that already exist here and around
                                                                                    the nation, nor does it account for a changing climate producing
                                                                                    more rainfall in many areas nor does it consider the health and
                                                                                    well-being of the residents or the nation. Yet it begs the question,
                                                                                    how can Federal money be used to buy equipment that does not
                                                                                    come with any service or performance warranties, especially when
                                                                                    we know they fail not only in Lowndes County but throughout the
                                                                                    nation?
                                                                                       This is indicative of the sanitation inequality that exists through-
                                                                                    out the U.S., whether in Montgomery, Alabama, where older Black
                                                                                    communities are on failing septic tanks or in Martin County, Ken-
                                                                                    tucky, where poor White families are asking for environmental jus-
                                                                                    tice and good-paying jobs as well. The American Jobs Plan provides
                                                                                    an opportunity to deal with the climate crisis head on and for guid-
                                                                                    ing rural Black, Brown, and indigenous communities that are expe-
                                                                                    riencing the most severe job losses, untimely deaths, poor living
                                                                                    conditions, and health crises.
                                                                                       It is a chance to right some wrongs of all marginalized commu-
                                                                                    nities and make America a model of ingenuity where we have clean
                                                                                    air, clean water, resilient infrastructure, and good-paying jobs for
                                                                                    everyone. With this funding should come guardrails that would en-
                                                                                    sure that Ms. Charlie Mae will not get more sewage in her yard,
                                                                                    lagoons are not built next to schools, and each onsite system or in-
                                                                                    frastructure placed in neglected communities should come with the
                                                                                    same performance and parts warranties that we have come to ex-




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                                                                                       These guardrails should include stringent enforcement so the
                                                                                    people of Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, and wherever our great na-
                                                                                    tion needs working infrastructure will get the relief and protection
                                                                                    from the climate crisis. It would be neglectful not to mention can-
                                                                                    cer alley, which sits along the Mississippi River, where residents
                                                                                    combat cancer rates due to pollution and are one climate crisis
                                                                                    away from a catastrophic event that could overshadow Hurricane
                                                                                    Katrina.
                                                                                       We can make a difference and do something now. As a child I
                                                                                    learned in Sunday school that we all have the power to do good and
                                                                                    change our communities for the better, and we should. Therefore,
                                                                                    I implore our leaders and policymakers to recognize the areas out-
                                                                                    side of urban centers that do not have the privilege to flush and
                                                                                    forget, and those who are losing their homes to sea level rise, roads
                                                                                    that are being destroyed, and their homes do not provide safe
                                                                                    haven from extreme heat or storms. Change the formula for dis-
                                                                                    aster relief to enable all Americans to receive recovery aid and to
                                                                                    include people that are renters, live on heirs’ property, or rural
                                                                                    communities that are not densely populated, invest in clean infra-
                                                                                    structure for all, prioritize in communities that have been left be-
                                                                                    hind, and most of all, we together should confront this climate cri-
                                                                                    sis for our children, our grandchildren, and generations to come.
                                                                                       I thank you for the opportunity to speak before you today. It was
                                                                                    an honor, and I look forward to continuing conversation about envi-
                                                                                    ronmental and climate justice for all Americans. Thank you.
                                                                                       [The statement of Ms. Flowers follows:]
                                                                                                           Testimony of Catherine Coleman Flowers
                                                                                                      To the House Select Committee on the Climate Crisis
                                                                                                                          July 15, 2021
                                                                                      Thank you, Chair Castor, Ranking Member Graves, and all the members of the
                                                                                    Select Committee for the opportunity to testify. My name is Catherine Coleman
                                                                                    Flowers. I serve as the Rural Development Manager for the Equal Justice Initiative
                                                                                    and the Founding Director of the Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental
                                                                                    Justice in Montgomery, Alabama. I also serve as a Practitioner in Residence at
                                                                                    Duke University, a member of the Board of Advisors for the Center for Earth Ethics
                                                                                    at Union Theological Seminary, as well as on the boards of the Natural Resource
                                                                                    Defense Council and the Climate Reality Project. In 2020, I was awarded a Mac-
                                                                                    Arthur Fellowship in Environmental Health and I authored the book entitled Waste:
                                                                                    One Woman’s Fight Against America’s Dirty Secret. In this book, I uncovered the
                                                                                    extent to which rural America has been denied access to sustainable and resilient
                                                                                    sanitation infrastructure.
                                                                                      I am a proud native of Lowndes County, Alabama, a rural area located between
                                                                                    Selma and Montgomery. Lowndes County too has a proud history of fighting for
                                                                                    equality and the right to vote. In addition, in the early 1900s, sharecroppers orga-
                                                                                    nized for jobs and justice. Many of its sons and later its daughters including my
                                                                                    father, three brothers and myself served in the United States military. We have a
                                                                                    deep legacy of holding up core democratic values, even when they failed us. Most
                                                                                    of all, I stand on the values learned as a country girl that grew up with a healthy
                                                                                    respect for nature and I appreciate what our Creator has provided for us which in-
                                                                                    cludes the knowledge to know when we are out of balance with creation.
                                                                                      That failure is exemplified through fish kills, more powerful storms, higher
                                                                                    groundwater tables in some areas, drought in other areas, floods, unsafe mobile
                                                                                    homes, high electric bills, pollution, straight-piping of raw sewage, or failing waste-
                                                                                    water systems. I have often taken policymakers, philanthropists, and people from
                                                                                    both sides of the aisle from Jeff Sessions to Doug Jones to Robert Woodson to
                                                                                    Lowndes County to see the infrastructure inequalities that exist and to hear from




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                                                                                    local people what is needed to address them. At the height of the pandemic,
                                                                                    Lowndes County had the highest death and infection rate per capita in the state
                                                                                    of Alabama. Sadly, as one travels through Lowndes County now, the fresh graves




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                                                                                    of victims of COVID are a constant reminder of what happens when poverty, in-
                                                                                    equality, failing or no sanitation infrastructure, and climate change come together.
                                                                                       The climate crisis impacts all of us. Whether one is in Louisiana which has been
                                                                                    losing at least 25 square miles of land per year, or in Alabama where more intense
                                                                                    tropical storms can harm housing, roads, transportation arteries, or other valuable
                                                                                    infrastructure. Throughout our nation we are dealing with failing infrastructure,
                                                                                    and it also includes the most basic infrastructure, sanitation. Because I am a coun-
                                                                                    try girl, I like to speak in plain English like I would if I were at home speaking
                                                                                    to local people, my relatives. In the town of Hayneville, Alabama, the county seat
                                                                                    of Lowndes, for more than twenty years, Mrs. Charlie Mae Holcombe has been tell-
                                                                                    ing people about the sewage from a nearby lagoon that is backing up into her home.
                                                                                    Yet, the failing infrastructure continues to fail, and she continues to cry for help.
                                                                                    She is paying a wastewater treatment fee. Yet all the town can provide is a pump
                                                                                    truck to pump sewage out of her yard from time to time. The failure is more pro-
                                                                                    nounced when there is a hard rain.
                                                                                       This is emblematic of failing wastewater infrastructure around the United States.
                                                                                    It is something that we need to address, and our rural communities should not be
                                                                                    left to their own devices as they struggle to cope with the climate crisis and the
                                                                                    lack of investment in sustainable infrastructure that goes back decades. Failure is
                                                                                    repeating the same thing time and time again and expecting different results.
                                                                                       Despite being knowledgeable of the failures of the lagoon system, a similar design
                                                                                    to the one is Hayneville is being planned for the town of White Hall. This sewage
                                                                                    lagoon will sit next to an elementary school. The liability for failing septic tanks in
                                                                                    this system will be transferred to the homeowners. This does not consider the fail-
                                                                                    ures that already exist here and around the nation, nor does it account for a chang-
                                                                                    ing climate producing more rainfall in many areas, nor does it consider the health
                                                                                    and wellbeing of the residents or the nation. Yet it begs the question, how can fed-
                                                                                    eral money be used to buy equipment that does not come with any service or per-
                                                                                    formance warranties, especially when we know they fail not only in Lowndes Coun-
                                                                                    ty, but throughout the nation?
                                                                                       This is indicative of the sanitation inequity that exists throughout the US wheth-
                                                                                    er in Montgomery, Alabama where many older black communities are on failing sep-
                                                                                    tic tanks, or Martin County, Kentucky where poor white families are asking for en-
                                                                                    vironmental justice and good paying jobs as well.
                                                                                       The American Jobs Plan provides an opportunity to deal with the climate crisis
                                                                                    head on in forgotten in rural, Black, Brown, and Indigenous communities that are
                                                                                    experiencing the most severe job losses, untimely deaths, poor living conditions, and
                                                                                    health crises. It is a chance to right some wrongs of all marginalized communities
                                                                                    and make America a model of ingenuity where we have clean air, clean water, resil-
                                                                                    ient infrastructure, and good paying jobs for everyone.
                                                                                       With this funding should come guardrails that will ensure that Mrs. Charlie Mae
                                                                                    will not get more sewer in her yard and home, lagoons are not built next to schools,
                                                                                    and each onsite system or any infrastructure placed in neglected communities
                                                                                    should come with the same performance and parts warranty we have come to expect
                                                                                    from a car, a hot water heater or a heating and cooling system. The guardrails
                                                                                    should include stringent enforcement so the people of Alabama, Louisiana, Texas,
                                                                                    and wherever in our great nation working infrastructure is needed will get relief
                                                                                    and protection from the climate crisis.
                                                                                       It will be neglectful not to mention Cancer Alley which sits along the Mississippi
                                                                                    River where residents combat high cancer rates due to pollution and are one climate
                                                                                    crisis away from a catastrophic event could overshadow Hurricane Katrina. We can
                                                                                    make a difference and do something now.
                                                                                       As a child, I learned in Sunday school that we all have the power to do good and
                                                                                    change our communities for the better, and we should. Therefore, I implore our
                                                                                    leaders and policymakers to recognize the areas outside of urban centers that do not
                                                                                    have the privilege to ‘‘flush and forget,’’ are losing their homes to sea level rise,
                                                                                    roads are being destroyed and their homes do not provide safe haven from extreme
                                                                                    heat or storms. Change the formula for disaster relief to enable all Americans to
                                                                                    receive recovery aid to include people that are renters, live on heir’s property or in
                                                                                    rural communities that are not densely populated. Invest in clean infrastructure for
                                                                                    all, prioritizing communities that have been left behind. And most of all, we to-
                                                                                    gether confront this climate crisis for our children, grandchildren, and the genera-
                                                                                    tions to come.
                                                                                       I thank you for this opportunity to speak before you today. It is an honor and
                                                                                    I look forward to continuing conversation about environmental justice and climate




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                                                                                         Ms. CASTOR. Thank you very much.




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                                                                                         Ms. Cooley, you are recognized for 5 minutes.

                                                                                                             STATEMENT OF NIKKI COOLEY
                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Ya’at’eeh. Chair Kathy Castor, Ranking Member
                                                                                    Garret Graves, and members of the Select Committee, thank you
                                                                                    for the opportunity to testify before you today to speak on the sig-
                                                                                    nificant actions of Native Americans and Alaska Native commu-
                                                                                    nities in addressing the climate crisis. I acknowledge all of the
                                                                                    Tribal and indigenous people on whose traditional lands we are
                                                                                    working and living on. I acknowledge all of my relatives listening
                                                                                    in on this important hearing.
                                                                                       I am of the Towering House Clan. I am born for the Reed People
                                                                                    Clan. Maternal grandfathers are from the Water That Flows To-
                                                                                    gether Clan. Paternal grandfathers are from the Manygoats Clan.
                                                                                    I am from the Dine Navajo Nation, Shonto and Blue Gap, Arizona.
                                                                                    I reside in Flagstaff, Arizona, where I co-manage the Tribes and
                                                                                    Climate Change program housed under the Institute for Tribal En-
                                                                                    vironmental Professionals.
                                                                                       A recent effort by ITEP was to convene the development of the
                                                                                    inaugural Status of Tribes and Climate Change Report. Although,
                                                                                    it has not been published, I will highlight 3 of the 12 chapters, in-
                                                                                    cluding key messages and recommendations.
                                                                                       On the Dine Navajo Nation, we are seeing the drastic impacts of
                                                                                    the extreme aridification of our lands. My people have to haul
                                                                                    water for their families, their livestock, and their crops. That is
                                                                                    getting harder due to low water levels. Our Nation has had to im-
                                                                                    plement water rations, forcing families to make the hard decision
                                                                                    to decrease or sell their livestock, which is devastating to those
                                                                                    who depend on them for money and for food.
                                                                                       Our relatives on the coastline and in Alaska are experiencing the
                                                                                    consequences of coastal erosion and water rising sea levels, forcing
                                                                                    them to plan for relocation. In recent years, wildfires and winter
                                                                                    storms have caused power outages, impacting those most vulner-
                                                                                    able.
                                                                                       A key philosophy of Tribal Nations is ‘‘To ei iina,’’ water is life.
                                                                                    Water sustains our bodies, our environment, and our economies.
                                                                                    Unfortunately, many Tribal Nations do not have reliable or ade-
                                                                                    quate access to safe drinking water. The insufficient drinking
                                                                                    water infrastructure combined with aridification, decrease in
                                                                                    groundwater recharge contributes to the imbalance of health, of the
                                                                                    health of the environment and people. The report recommends
                                                                                    funding for not only the installation but operation and maintenance
                                                                                    of water—drinking water infrastructure.
                                                                                       The climate resilient infrastructure could potentially decrease
                                                                                    long-term costs and water ability to access safe and reliable drink-
                                                                                    ing water is a privilege, but it is also a basic human right. I recall
                                                                                    very vividly doing my college homework by kerosene lamps and
                                                                                    later using a generator and head lamps. I recall the uncertainty of
                                                                                    the mine shutting down because of job loss. Adding to that loss was
                                                                                    the failed opportunity to train former mine workers in the reclama-
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                                                                                       Our people will not have to leave the reservation. Tribal Nations
                                                                                    require the support in terms of financing, training, and access to
                                                                                    the resources. My umbilical cord is buried at my family’s home,
                                                                                    and I am continually reminded of where I come from and what I
                                                                                    have to protect. We are inherently bonded with the Earth through
                                                                                    our prayers, our ceremonies, and ways of life. Due to climate
                                                                                    change, many communities are facing the threat from rising sea
                                                                                    levels, coastal erosion, permafrost melt. This not only threatens the
                                                                                    land base, but the people’s safety, emotional, and physical well-
                                                                                    being.
                                                                                       The STACC Report highlights inadequate funding, agency coordi-
                                                                                    nation, local capacity, and technical capacity as significant barriers
                                                                                    for Tribes. Current infrastructure is at risk and if we wait any
                                                                                    longer to address these threats there will be significant long-term
                                                                                    costs.
                                                                                       I am the daughter of someone who worked at the Peabody Coal
                                                                                    Mine on the Navajo reservation for over 30 years. I know all too
                                                                                    well the need for a just transition to a sustainable economy that
                                                                                    not only focuses on cleaner energy, such as wind and solar, but
                                                                                    building an adequate and sustainable infrastructure that will pro-
                                                                                    tect the people, the environment, but also promote economic secu-
                                                                                    rity. I stress the importance of acknowledging the unique chal-
                                                                                    lenges Native Americans face.
                                                                                       Climate change impacts are becoming more frequent giving less
                                                                                    time for recovery, preparation, and increasing costs. I implore the
                                                                                    committee to recognize the STACC Report as an opportunity to
                                                                                    learn more in-depth about what Tribal Nations are doing to protect
                                                                                    themselves and their communities against the climate crisis while
                                                                                    exploring significant ways to support them. I implore the com-
                                                                                    mittee to include and recognize the leadership of Tribes in address-
                                                                                    ing the climate crisis, which is and always will be at their doorstep.
                                                                                       And as an elder recently said, what we do today, we do for the
                                                                                    next seven generations. Ahxehee. Thank you.
                                                                                       [The statement of Ms. Cooley follows:]
                                                                                                                Testimony of Nikki Cooley
                                                                                         Co-Manager, Tribes & Climate Change Program and Interim Assistant
                                                                                           Director, Institute for Tribal Environmental Professionals (ITEP),
                                                                                                              Northern Arizona University
                                                                                                                        Before the
                                                                                         U.S. House of Representatives, Select Committee on the Climate Crisis
                                                                                                                      Hearing Title:
                                                                                               Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action
                                                                                                                       July 15, 2021
                                                                                       Chair Kathy Castor, Ranking Member Garret Graves, and members of the Select
                                                                                    Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today to speak on
                                                                                    the significant actions of Native American and Alaska Native communities in ad-
                                                                                    dressing the climate crisis.
                                                                                       My name is Nikki Cooley and I am Diné (Navajo) and of the Towering House
                                                                                    Clan, born for the Reed People Clan, maternal grandfathers are from the Water that
                                                                                    Flows Together Clan, and paternal grandfathers are from the Manygoats Clan. I am
                                                                                    from Shonto and Blue Gap, Arizona and currently reside in Flagstaff, Arizona where
                                                                                    I co-manage the Tribes and Climate Change Program (TCCP) housed under the In-
                                                                                    stitute for Tribal Environmental Professionals (ITEP) at Northern Arizona Univer-




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                                                                                    sity. ITEP was created in 1992 to provide services and tools for Tribal environ-
                                                                                    mental professionals to assist in strengthening Tribal capacity and sovereignty in
                                                                                    caring for their own lands, natural and cultural resources. The TCCP was initiated




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                                                                                    in 2009 to provide regional and national trainings, national conference, technical as-
                                                                                    sistance and support for Tribes seeking to address climate impacts in their respec-
                                                                                    tive communities. This support includes assisting Tribal Nations with developing
                                                                                    their climate adaptation and mitigation plans. Since 2009, the TCCP has served and
                                                                                    supported over 800 individuals including 600+ Tribal representatives and over 300
                                                                                    Tribal Nations.
                                                                                       I am from the Diné (Navajo) Nation where we have been seeing the drastic im-
                                                                                    pacts of climate change and we are going through a prolonged dry spell. Most of
                                                                                    my people have to haul water for themselves and families and their livestock and
                                                                                    crops and that is getting harder due to low water levels. Our nation has had to im-
                                                                                    plement water rations forcing families to make the hard decision to decrease or sell
                                                                                    their livestock which is devastating to those who depend on them for food and
                                                                                    money. Our relatives on the coastlines and in Alaska are experiencing the con-
                                                                                    sequences of coastal erosion and rising sea levels forcing them to plan for relocating
                                                                                    their communities. In recent years, wildfires and winter storms have caused power
                                                                                    outages impacting those most vulnerable. These are just a few examples of what has
                                                                                    and is happening across the country and specifically in Native American and Alaska
                                                                                    Natives villages.
                                                                                       A recent effort by ITEP was to convene the development of the inaugural Status
                                                                                    of Tribes and Climate Change (STACC) report with an author team of over 40 indi-
                                                                                    viduals coming from a variety of institutions. The report aims to acknowledge and
                                                                                    celebrate the efforts of Tribal Nations who continue to find solutions using Tradi-
                                                                                    tional Knowledges (TK) and Western knowledge to address the increasing impacts
                                                                                    of climate change. Included are the efforts of Tribal communities and their partners
                                                                                    who come from Tribal Nations, academic institutions, federal and state agencies,
                                                                                    and non-profits. Although the STACC report will not be published until the end of
                                                                                    August, it contains 12 chapters that includes key messages and recommendations
                                                                                    to assist and support Tribes as they work to protect their communities, non-human
                                                                                    relatives and cultures from drastic climate impacts.
                                                                                    2021 STACC Report’s Key Messages and Recommendations
                                                                                    Chapter 1: History of Indigenous Peoples in National Climate Assessments
                                                                                    Key Message
                                                                                       Indigenous peoples have been substantively involved in national and international
                                                                                    climate assessments for decades, and this involvement has grown, including more
                                                                                    Indigenous engagement and authorship on the third and fourth National Climate
                                                                                    Assessments. There is still much work to be done to engage and include Indigenous
                                                                                    perspectives, knowledge, and expertise in climate assessments.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                       Future reforms to make NCAs more inclusive should acknowledge, learn from,
                                                                                    and build on Indigenous peoples involvement throughout the history of the US Glob-
                                                                                    al Change Research Program.
                                                                                    Chapter 2: Worldviews, Knowledges, & Social Impacts
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                       Indigenous peoples have their own systems of governance that have norms of be-
                                                                                    havior for land use and land care.
                                                                                       A growing dialogue among some Indigenous peoples articulates Indigenous knowl-
                                                                                    edge systems through an understanding that all things are interconnected.
                                                                                       Legacies left by colonialism in economic, social, environmental, and educational
                                                                                    systems have altered lifeways, traditions, practices, customs, and values of Indige-
                                                                                    nous peoples, influencing their understanding of how climate change affects their
                                                                                    daily lives and opportunities for adaptation.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                       Climate change policy and climate science fields should respect Indigenous self-
                                                                                    determination in governance and knowledge exchange. Indigenous peoples should be
                                                                                    consulted meaningfully from the earliest stages of policy and research development.
                                                                                    Legal, policy, ethical, and cultural best practices and requirements should be fol-
                                                                                    lowed to make consultation meaningful.
                                                                                    Chapter 3: Actionable Science & Collaborative Climate Planning
                                                                                    Key Messages




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                                                                                       Tribes are investing efforts in adaptation planning and projects to keep their com-
                                                                                    munities, ecosystems, and people healthy. In doing so, they are implementing the
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                                                                                    nerability assessments, adaptation plans, and hazard mitigation plans. Protecting
                                                                                    traditional knowledges is an important part of these processes. Locally relevant and
                                                                                    regionally specific information is needed to understand local climate impacts and de-
                                                                                    velop solutions that incorporate local, traditional, and western knowledge for holistic
                                                                                    solutions. Actionable science co-produced in partnership with Indigenous peoples
                                                                                    can support Tribal resource management decision-making.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Support Tribal sovereignty and self-determination through Tribally-led climate
                                                                                    adaptation planning to allow Tribes to prepare for climate uncertainty and associ-
                                                                                    ated risks. Management decision making should involve consultation with Tribes
                                                                                    early and often, co-production of actionable science, and the incorporation of local
                                                                                    knowledge.
                                                                                    Chapter 4: Ecosystems & Biodiversity
                                                                                    Key Message
                                                                                      Indigenous peoples’ worldviews are often explicit in their centering of
                                                                                    relationality, responsibility, and reciprocity as critical concepts. These concepts may
                                                                                    inform Indigenous responses to climate change impacts. Examples of these impacts
                                                                                    include increases in destructive wildfires and invasive species, and decreases in ice
                                                                                    cover due to warming temperatures. Indigenous actions to address climate change
                                                                                    are vast but some specifics include cultural burning, protection of keystone species,
                                                                                    and observation and evaluation of invasive species before deciding how to respond.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                       Indigenous peoples’ self-determination as practitioners of biodiversity conservation
                                                                                    and ecological protection should be respected and reinforced. This can be accom-
                                                                                    plished through collaboration across jurisdictions; consultation and consent in the
                                                                                    first stages of land and water planning, research, and management processes; in-
                                                                                    creasing support mechanisms for the exercise of Tribal sovereignty; and the removal
                                                                                    of barriers to Indigenous peoples’ rights to implementing land management prac-
                                                                                    tices. Special measures need to be taken to provide access to and management of
                                                                                    off-reservation areas to promote the retention of culturally valued species to the
                                                                                    maximum extent possible. This helps to ensure the promotion and maintenance of
                                                                                    Indigenous economies, traditional knowledge systems, livelihoods, meanings, and
                                                                                    identities. Where retention is not feasible, measures are needed to support Tribes
                                                                                    in making new relationships with newly arriving living beings.
                                                                                    Chapter 4.1: Air
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                      The federal government must uphold Tribal sovereignty, authority, and co-man-
                                                                                    agement rights for air quality management. Impediments to exercising sovereignty
                                                                                    could be removed. For example, Tribes should be allowed to perform traditional fire
                                                                                    prevention activities on their lands, such as cultural burning of the landscape to
                                                                                    prevent wildland fires. Tribes experience disproportionate impacts from poor air
                                                                                    quality, including smoke/fine particulates, heat, and humidity, all of which can be
                                                                                    connected to climate change. These factors are believed to impact rates of mortality
                                                                                    and morbidity from COVID–19.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                       Fully engage Tribes as co-regulators in the very first stages of air quality regu-
                                                                                    latory planning, development, implementation, and enforcement. Adequate funding
                                                                                    of air quality programs for staffing, monitoring, and emergency response to air qual-
                                                                                    ity issues supports Tribal sovereignty, as does addressing underlying causes of envi-
                                                                                    ronmental, social, and health inequalities and injustices with the full participation
                                                                                    of Tribal peoples.
                                                                                    Chapter 4.2: Water
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                       Climate change is negatively impacting water quality, increasing ocean acidifica-
                                                                                    tion, leading to an increase in the frequency and duration of harmful algae and
                                                                                    biotoxin events, increasing drought, negatively impacting water and food security,
                                                                                    and increasing both coastal inundation and riverine flooding. Each of these impacts
                                                                                    can threaten local economies, human and non-human health and wellbeing, and In-




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                                                                                    digenous lifeways. Tribes and Alaska Natives are responding to these threats by
                                                                                    drawing on traditional knowledge, monitoring water sources, utilizing new tools,
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                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Emphasis should be on early, meaningful, and sustained engagement and con-
                                                                                    sultation by federal and state regulatory and other agencies on both water quality
                                                                                    and availability, and concerning the associated food and water security impacts of
                                                                                    contamination, ocean acidification, hazardous algal and biotoxin events, and risks
                                                                                    associated with both drought and flooding. Tribes and Alaska Natives should be
                                                                                    supported in implementing Tribally-led planning and solutions, partnerships, and
                                                                                    cooperative efforts.
                                                                                    Chapter 4.2.1: Drinking Water Infrastructure
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                      Tens of thousands of Native Americans do not have access to safe drinking water.
                                                                                    Climate change has the potential to exacerbate this lack in access. Operation and
                                                                                    maintenance (O&M) of water systems is key to sustainability, cost effectiveness, and
                                                                                    most importantly, the ability to supply safe and reliable drinking water. Proper
                                                                                    O&M requires adequate funding, staffing, and technical, managerial, and financial
                                                                                    training. Proper O&M may become even more critical with climate change as sys-
                                                                                    tems need to respond to increasingly extreme climate events and greater uncer-
                                                                                    tainty with respect to water quantity and quality conditions. Water infrastructure
                                                                                    deficiencies provide opportunities to install climate resilient infrastructure.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Climate change is making it more urgent to increase resources for Tribal drinking
                                                                                    water infrastructure and for operation & maintenance to eliminate disparities in
                                                                                    safe drinking water access and increase infrastructure resilience to climate-related
                                                                                    disasters and impacts.
                                                                                    Chapter 5: Health & Wellbeing
                                                                                    Key messages
                                                                                       Indigenous peoples’ health and wellbeing (HWB) is founded on mutually beneficial
                                                                                    relationships among humans, nonhuman relatives, and the environment, therefore
                                                                                    HWB is highly impacted by climate change. Social-emotional health, water security,
                                                                                    first foods security (includes foods, medicines, and technologies) are key aspects of
                                                                                    Indigenous peoples’ health and wellbeing (HWB) that merit more attention at local
                                                                                    scales due to Indigenous peoples’ unique cultures and worldviews. Indigenous peo-
                                                                                    ples’ resilience is strong; supporting community-defined climate strategies and ca-
                                                                                    pacity building within Indigenous communities will augment resilience
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Accelerate incorporating Tribal Health & Wellbeing evaluations, priorities, and
                                                                                    action plans into government policy, laws, and decision-making.
                                                                                    Chapter 6: Economic Development: Renewables, Sustainable Economies, &
                                                                                        Carbon Offsets
                                                                                    Key Message
                                                                                      Indigenous science, knowledges, philosophies, and heritages guide Tribal self-de-
                                                                                    termination in rediscovering economic sovereignty through pursuing, among other
                                                                                    sustainable enterprises, renewable energy development, carbon sequestration via
                                                                                    carbon markets, water and food security, and subsistence-based enterprises.
                                                                                    Recommendations
                                                                                       Address complex land tenure, fractionation, and checkerboard jurisdictional
                                                                                    boundary issues that persist on reservation lands and may constrain Tribal eco-
                                                                                    nomic sovereignty. Invest in capacity-building that increases in-house legal, tech-
                                                                                    nical, vocational, and varied fields of research expertise to strengthen Tribal eco-
                                                                                    nomic self-determination while mitigating the effects of and adapting to a changing
                                                                                    climate.
                                                                                    Chapter 7: Energy & Just Transition
                                                                                       An Indigenous Just Transition is an Indigenous-led transition to an Indigenous-
                                                                                    based, non-extractive, regenerative economy that transforms community planning
                                                                                    and ecosystem restoration. Indigenous peoples have been deeply affected by extrac-




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                                                                                    tive industries such as the fossil fuel and uranium mining industries. Tribal lands
                                                                                    have tremendous renewable energy development potential which could help Tribes
                                                                                    achieve energy and economic independence, sovereignty, and stability.




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                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Remove barriers to renewable energy development, while supporting Indigenous
                                                                                    people in a Just Transition, to reduce reliance on and negative impacts from fossil
                                                                                    fuels and nuclear energy. The most significant barriers to the development of renew-
                                                                                    able energy on Tribal lands are a lack of financing, infrastructure, training in re-
                                                                                    newable energy careers, resources to access that training, and inadequately sup-
                                                                                    ported Tribal leadership and staff.
                                                                                    Chapter 8: Cultural Resources
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                       Tribal cultural resources include intangible cultural beliefs, practices, and tradi-
                                                                                    tions as well as tangible physical sites, landscapes, plants, and animals. Tribal cli-
                                                                                    mate change mitigation strategies should include considerations of both tangible
                                                                                    and intangible cultural resources.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Integrate the tangible and intangible cultural, spiritual, and traditional signifi-
                                                                                    cance of plants, animals, ecosystems, and landscapes into analyses of the con-
                                                                                    sequences of climate change.
                                                                                    Chapter 9: Emergency Management
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                       It is estimated that currently less than 25% of all Tribal nations have an Office
                                                                                    of Emergency Management, and less than 10% of those have full-time emergency
                                                                                    managers. Without a Tribal emergency management program, it is deeply chal-
                                                                                    lenging to implement and adhere to a number of federal mandates and policies. Na-
                                                                                    tive Americans have a long and varied history of storytelling and culturally unique
                                                                                    ways of communicating with one another and with other communities. When seek-
                                                                                    ing to communicate with Tribes, this rich tradition of storytelling and oral histories
                                                                                    should be incorporated.
                                                                                       Barriers such as a lack of effective leadership at local, state, federal, and Tribal
                                                                                    levels of government have prevented Tribal emergency management programs from
                                                                                    making greater progress on responding to and mitigating climate-driven hazards.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Increase resources and support at the state and federal levels to develop Tribal
                                                                                    emergency management programs across Tribal nations. Increase coordination with
                                                                                    state and federally recognized Tribal nations to respond to and prepare for climate
                                                                                    driven hazards.
                                                                                    Chapter 10: Protection-In-Place, Managed Retreat, & Relocation
                                                                                    Key messages
                                                                                      Many Tribal communities are pursuing protection-in-place, managed retreat, and
                                                                                    relocation responses to climate change impacts to infrastructure at increasing rates,
                                                                                    which profoundly impacts the well-being and safety of Tribal communities and their
                                                                                    lands, territories, and resources. Lack of a comprehensive policy and funding pre-
                                                                                    vents most communities from protecting existing infrastructure.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Create an all-of-government coordination structure to support Tribes in address-
                                                                                    ing environmental threats and provide adequate funding for proactive adaptation
                                                                                    projects that empowers and honors community decision-making, sovereignty, and
                                                                                    self-determination, consistent with the federal government’s trust and treaty respon-
                                                                                    sibilities.
                                                                                    Chapter 11: Solid Waste
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                       The component of Tribal solid waste systems that is most affected by climate
                                                                                    change and has the farthest reaching implications is that of infrastructure. An in-
                                                                                    frastructure system that continues to be stressed has lasting impacts on the amount
                                                                                    of illegal dumping on Tribal lands, the transportation of waste in and out of Tribal
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                                                                                       The data gaps that exist in the world of Tribal solid waste management are exten-
                                                                                    sive and cause a delay in responding to the demands of new conditions created by
                                                                                    climate change.




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                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Allocate funding through a streamlined federal funding process (perhaps an inter-
                                                                                    agency clearing house or memorandums of understandings) to ensure Tribal infra-
                                                                                    structure is prepared to withstand changes in climate and extreme weather events
                                                                                    and collaborate with Tribes to develop an inventory and evaluation of infrastructure
                                                                                    related to solid waste in Tribal communities. This should include roads, facilities,
                                                                                    and equipment. Focus on regional coordination to allow for idea sharing around cli-
                                                                                    mate change impacts, adaptations, and resources already available to help eliminate
                                                                                    data gaps.
                                                                                    Chapter 12: Emerging Topics
                                                                                    Key Messages
                                                                                       Integrating Tribal workforce development and supporting Tribal Colleges and
                                                                                    Universities can lead to greater climate resiliency and Tribal sovereignty, and can
                                                                                    create opportunities to educate and train future Indigenous generations in climate
                                                                                    related fields if administered additional funding and resources.
                                                                                       There are many climate-related cultural cascades including, economic and social,
                                                                                    Indigenous relationships with the natural world, and pandemics. Tribal Nations are
                                                                                    sovereign and the US Federal government, in meeting its intent to address climate,
                                                                                    environmental justice, and racial justice, should work collaboratively to support
                                                                                    Tribes to engage in internal diplomatic relations. Other collaborations across juris-
                                                                                    dictions and Tribal governments should be considered to enhance climate-planning
                                                                                    efforts.
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                      Recognizing that climate related cultural cascades, including economic and social,
                                                                                    affect Indigenous relationships with the natural world, Tribes and Tribal partners
                                                                                    should support collaborative climate planning efforts across jurisdictions and Tribal
                                                                                    governments, including Tribal Colleges and Universities and other workforce devel-
                                                                                    opment opportunities such as prioritizing Indigenous knowledge and labor. These
                                                                                    practices will lead to stronger climate resiliency and sovereignty efforts.
                                                                                    Appendix A: Funding
                                                                                    Recommendation
                                                                                       Increase funding mechanisms that are reflective of the unique needs of Tribal na-
                                                                                    tions, including resources for workforce development, overall capacity building, im-
                                                                                    plementation of climate adaptation projects, and zero cost-share grants.
                                                                                    Conclusion:
                                                                                       I am daughter of someone who worked at the Peabody Coal Mine on the Navajo
                                                                                    reservation for over 30 years. I know all too well the need for a just transition to
                                                                                    a sustainable economy that not only focuses on clean energy such as solar and wind
                                                                                    power, but on a building adequate and sustainable infrastructure that will protect
                                                                                    the people and environment. I stress the importance of acknowledging the
                                                                                    unique challenges Native American and Alaska Native villages face when
                                                                                    it comes to the climate crisis. Many of our people live in rural and underserved
                                                                                    areas where they have little to no access to water, food and emergency services. The
                                                                                    lack of infrastructure on most Tribal communities is increasing the stress on the
                                                                                    people, natural environment and the costs of maintaining. Additionally, Tribes have
                                                                                    a unique relationship with the environment and is often closely intertwined with
                                                                                    their languages, ceremonies, medicines and ways of life. For example, if seasonal
                                                                                    subsistence practices are disrupted, a chain reaction occurs. People are stressed be-
                                                                                    cause the foods they consume and also store until the next season is not available.
                                                                                    This may force people to spend even more funds to make trips to the grocery stores
                                                                                    and for many rural residents, this means traveling more than 30+ plus miles or giv-
                                                                                    ing into high costs of shipping food to their villages. Climate change impacts are
                                                                                    becoming more frequent giving less time for recovery and preparation, and
                                                                                    increasing costs. The STACC report provides the opportunity to learn more in-
                                                                                    depth about what Tribal Nations are doing to protect themselves and their commu-
                                                                                    nities against the climate crisis. I implore the Committee to include and recognize
                                                                                    not only the impacts Tribes face but also their leadership in addressing the climate
                                                                                    crisis which is and will always be at their doorstep. As an Elder said recently, what
                                                                                    we do today, we do for the next seven generations. Ahxé’héé! Thank you.




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                                                                                         Ms. CASTOR. Thank you very much.
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                                                                                                           STATEMENT OF DERRICK HOLLIE
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Greetings Chair Castor, Ranking Member Graves,
                                                                                    and members of the committee. Thank you for the opportunity in
                                                                                    allowing me to speak today.
                                                                                       I am Derrick Hollie, President of Reaching America, an education
                                                                                    and policy organization I have developed to address social issues
                                                                                    impacting African-American communities. One of the issues I do
                                                                                    the most work on is reducing energy poverty. Energy poverty oc-
                                                                                    curs when low-income families or individuals are unable to afford
                                                                                    basic heating, electric, and gas needs. Some of these Americans
                                                                                    spend more than 25 percent or more of their total income on their
                                                                                    electric bill.
                                                                                       Now, eliminating energy poverty is a goal, I think, we all should
                                                                                    be interested in achieving. However, in working towards that goal,
                                                                                    we need to be mindful of how policies will impact the same commu-
                                                                                    nities that you claim to protect with this kind of proposed legisla-
                                                                                    tion. We all know the communities around the country, particularly
                                                                                    low-income, minority, rural, and senior citizen communities suffer
                                                                                    from a lack of access to reliable energy sources and spend propor-
                                                                                    tionally much more, much higher amounts on electricity costs.
                                                                                       Today’s hearing, ‘‘Advancing Environmental Justice Through Cli-
                                                                                    mate Action,’’ sounds great. However, it will be much more prudent
                                                                                    and productive for everyone to include energy poverty in the con-
                                                                                    versation. Why? Because the same communities and people that
                                                                                    you claim to protect through environmental justice are the same
                                                                                    communities and people who are struggling with energy poverty.
                                                                                       For the record, I do think climate change exists. However, I do
                                                                                    not believe there is a climate crisis. And the narrative is very mis-
                                                                                    leading. Also the so-called solutions are misleading as well. They
                                                                                    promote false hope and unrealistic outcomes for America. And here
                                                                                    is why. There is not a poll, a survey, or any research that would
                                                                                    suggest that climate change is a major issue or even a conversation
                                                                                    in the Black community. Because it is not, and we have the media
                                                                                    to blame for that. Most Black people think getting shot by a police
                                                                                    officer is the biggest issue, and we know that is not true either.
                                                                                       My sister is a devoted Democrat and just waited 7 months for
                                                                                    her new vehicle to be delivered because they couldn’t get the var-
                                                                                    ious chips needed to complete her car. Earlier this week, I had to
                                                                                    settle on a rental car because there is a shortage of cars due to the
                                                                                    lack of chips. There are solar companies right now voicing their
                                                                                    concerns because they can’t get the materials either that they need.
                                                                                       This is a supply chain issue for precious minerals like cobalt. Co-
                                                                                    balt is needed for every solar panel, lithium battery, cell phone,
                                                                                    and radiation treatment. Over 60 percent of the world’s cobalt
                                                                                    comes from the Congo being mined, in most cases, by little Black
                                                                                    kids. We have a cobalt mine right here in Minnesota that is trying
                                                                                    to be shut down by environmental groups, and to me, this is very
                                                                                    racist and a glaring example of the hypocrisy that exists.
                                                                                       Why is it okay for little Black kids to mine for cobalt in Africa?
                                                                                    Shouldn’t environmental justice be a global issue, or is it just for
                                                                                    us here in America? Right now, we see electric charging stations
                                                                                    going up everywhere, even in communities where they are not




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                                                                                    being used. Studies show that an estimated 90 percent of electric
                                                                                    vehicle owners earn over $100,000 a year, and then you get your




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                                                                                    little tax credit. Most people living in these vulnerable communities
                                                                                    do not make that kind of income and are not interested in an elec-
                                                                                    tric vehicle. It is very easy to see how these environmental justice
                                                                                    policies will do more harm than good to these individuals.
                                                                                       In closing, my grandfather was a Black coal miner in southwest
                                                                                    Virginia, and I had the opportunity to visit that area. The poverty
                                                                                    that exists in rural America is different, much different from urban
                                                                                    cities, and these people have never recovered from the mines that
                                                                                    closed decades ago. My fear, Madam Chair, is the same will happen
                                                                                    to healthy, thriving communities that relied on good-paying oil and
                                                                                    gas jobs for generations.
                                                                                       I know plenty of folks in Houston, Dallas, Louisiana who work
                                                                                    in the industry, and they are not in agreement with any policies,
                                                                                    new policies or regulations, that will ultimately destroy their life-
                                                                                    styles. I am a licensed captain. I have fished in the Atlantic and
                                                                                    in the Gulf, and as an environmental steward, I recognize we have
                                                                                    to protect our planet. However, the bottom line is we need to do
                                                                                    it sensibly.
                                                                                       I think we all would agree that the American people have gone
                                                                                    through enough with the uncertainty that still exists from the glob-
                                                                                    al pandemic of COVID–19. The last thing we need to do is take
                                                                                    away good-paying jobs, disrupt people’s lifestyle more than it al-
                                                                                    ready has, and destroy an industry that we have relied on for cen-
                                                                                    turies, the same industry that has allowed us to create Americans
                                                                                    the lifestyle that we have grown to appreciate it. From petrol-
                                                                                    chemicals, including plastics, fibers, pharmaceuticals, even your
                                                                                    yoga mat comes from fossil fuels. Roughly 80 percent of our energy
                                                                                    mix comes from fossil fuels; that is oil, natural gas, and coal.
                                                                                       It was that way at the turn of the century. It was that way when
                                                                                    my grandfather was a Black coal miner. It is that way today, and
                                                                                    we are not going to get there by a flip of a switch. We need market-
                                                                                    oriented policy that will allow America to keep exploring and devel-
                                                                                    oping our own natural resources safely while we transition to much
                                                                                    cleaner energy and still allow us to maintain our energy and sup-
                                                                                    ply chain independence.
                                                                                       Thank you.
                                                                                       [The statement of Mr. Hollie follows:]
                                                                                                  House Select Committee on The Climate Crisis Hearing
                                                                                               Testimony for Derrick Hollie, President, Reaching America
                                                                                                                              July 15, 2021
                                                                                       Greetings Chair Castor, Ranking Member Graves and Members of the Committee.
                                                                                       Thank you for the opportunity and allowing me to speak today.
                                                                                       I’m Derrick Hollie president of Reaching America, an education and policy organi-
                                                                                    zation I developed to address complex social issues impacting African American
                                                                                    communities. One of the issues, I do the most work on is reducing energy poverty.
                                                                                    Energy Poverty occurs when low-income families or individuals are unable to afford
                                                                                    basic heating, electric and gas needs. Some of these Americans spend more than
                                                                                    twenty five percent or more of their total income on their electric bill.
                                                                                       Eliminating energy poverty is a goal we all should be interested in achieving.
                                                                                    However, in working towards that goal we need to be mindful of how policies will
                                                                                    impact the same communities that you claim to protect with this kind of proposed
                                                                                    legislation. We all know that communities around the country, particularly low-in-




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                                                                                    come, minority, rural, and senior citizen communities, suffer from a lack of access
                                                                                    to reliable energy sources and spend proportionately much higher amounts on elec-
                                                                                    tricity costs.




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                                                                                       Today’s hearing ‘‘Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action’’
                                                                                    sounds great, however it would be much more prudent and productive for everyone
                                                                                    to include energy poverty in the conversation. Why—because the same communities
                                                                                    and people that you claim to protect through environmental justice are the same
                                                                                    communities and people who are struggling with energy poverty.
                                                                                       For the record I do think climate change exist however I do not believe there is
                                                                                    a climate crisis, and that narrative is very misleading. Also, your so-called solutions
                                                                                    are misleading, they promote false hope and unrealistic outcome for America. Here’s
                                                                                    why, there is not a poll, survey or research that suggest climate change is a major
                                                                                    issue or conversation in the black community—because it is not, and we have the
                                                                                    media to blame for that. Most black people think getting shot by a police officer is
                                                                                    the biggest issue and we all know that is not true either.
                                                                                       My sister Dana is a devoted Democrat and just waited seven months for her new
                                                                                    vehicle to be delivered because they could not get the various chips needed to com-
                                                                                    plete her car. Earlier this week I had to settle on a rental because there is a short-
                                                                                    age of cars due to the lack of chips. There are solar companies also voicing concerns
                                                                                    because they are not able to get the materials either.
                                                                                       This a of supply chain issue for precious minerals like cobalt. Cobalt is needed
                                                                                    for every solar panel, lithium battery, cell phone and radiation treatment. Over
                                                                                    sixty percent of the world’s cobalt comes from the Congo being mined in most cases
                                                                                    by little black kids. We have cobalt mine in Minnesota right now trying to be shut
                                                                                    down by environmental groups. To me that is very racist and a glaring example of
                                                                                    the hypocrisy that exist. Why is it okay for little black kids in Africa to mine for
                                                                                    cobalt—shouldn’t environmental justice be a global issue or is it just for us in Amer-
                                                                                    ica?
                                                                                       Right now, we see electric charging stations going up everywhere—even in com-
                                                                                    munities where they are not being used. Studies show an estimated 90% of EV own-
                                                                                    ers earn over 100k a year and you get your little tax credit. Most people living in
                                                                                    vulnerable communities do not make that kind of money and are not interested in
                                                                                    an electric vehicle. It is very easy to see how your environmental justice policies will
                                                                                    do more harm than good to individuals
                                                                                       In closing, my grandfather was a black coal miner in southwest Virginia, and I
                                                                                    had the opportunity to visit that area. The poverty that exists in rural America is
                                                                                    different and these areas have never recovered from the mines that were shut down
                                                                                    decades ago. My fear Madam Chair is the same will happen to healthy thriving com-
                                                                                    munities that have relied on good paying oil and gas jobs for generations. I know
                                                                                    plenty of black folks in Houston, Dallas and Louisiana who work in the industry,
                                                                                    and they are not in agreement with new policies and regulations that will ulti-
                                                                                    mately destroy their lifestyle.
                                                                                       I’m a licensed captain and have fished the Atlantic and the Gulf, and as an envi-
                                                                                    ronmental steward, I recognize—we have to protect our planet, however the bottom
                                                                                    line is to do it sensibly
                                                                                       I think we all would agree, the American people have gone through enough and
                                                                                    with the uncertainty that still exists from the global pandemic of COVID 19, the
                                                                                    last thing we need to do is take away good paying jobs, disrupt people’s lifestyle
                                                                                    more than it already has—and destroy an industry that we have relied on for cen-
                                                                                    turies. The same industry that has allowed us to create a life that Americans have
                                                                                    grown to appreciate from petrochemicals, including plastics, fibers, pharmaceuticals
                                                                                    and your yoga mat.
                                                                                       We need market-oriented energy policy that will allow America to keep exploring
                                                                                    and developing our own natural resources safely and will allow us to maintain our
                                                                                    energy and supply chain independence.
                                                                                      Ms. CASTOR. Okay. Next, Dr. Park, you are recognized for 5 min-
                                                                                    utes.
                                                                                                            STATEMENT OF R. JISUNG PARK
                                                                                      Mr. PARK. Great. So thank you, Chair Castor, Ranking Member
                                                                                    Graves, and members of the Select Committee for giving me the op-
                                                                                    portunity to speak today.
                                                                                      My name is Jisung Park, and I am an Assistant Professor at
                                                                                    UCLA. My training is as a Ph.D. economist, and given this train-
                                                                                    ing, I see my job primarily as to help us learn from data and eco-




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                                                                                    nomic statistics, not so much to make political statements, but in
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                                                                                    ling story regarding the interactions between climate change, ex-
                                                                                    treme heat, in particular, and economic opportunity and inequality.
                                                                                       So, with my time, I would like to focus on three main points. The
                                                                                    first is that we are only beginning to learn the full economic con-
                                                                                    sequences of hotter temperature in part because the effects of hot-
                                                                                    ter temperature are often quite subtle and may evade traditional
                                                                                    tools of measurement. I will tell you what I mean by that in a mo-
                                                                                    ment.
                                                                                       Second, in the research that is available, it appears to be the
                                                                                    case that heat has highly unequal consequences, not only across
                                                                                    rich and poor countries, but also within countries, within states,
                                                                                    and even, perhaps, within individual congressional districts, which
                                                                                    would suggest that climate change, without remedial investments,
                                                                                    could actually exacerbate recent trends in economic inequality.
                                                                                       And, third, the findings from this research, much of which has
                                                                                    really just come online the last 4 or 5 years, suggests that not only
                                                                                    should we be engaging in aggressive climate mitigation, that is,
                                                                                    transitioning away from fossil fuels, but that policymakers may
                                                                                    also want to think proactively about climate adaptation.
                                                                                       So, in the time that I have remaining, I would like to try to illus-
                                                                                    trate these points in the context of the effects of heat on workers.
                                                                                    So my colleagues at UCLA and Stanford and I were able to analyze
                                                                                    over 11 million worker’s compensation claims, and what we find is
                                                                                    that hotter temperatures significantly increases the risk of work-
                                                                                    place injury. For example, if you are working on a day above 90
                                                                                    degrees Fahrenheit, this increases injuries by up to 15 percent on
                                                                                    that day such that, in California alone, we estimate that heat may
                                                                                    be causing tens of thousands of workplace injuries per year, many
                                                                                    of which lead to permanent disabilities and wage loss.
                                                                                       Now, what is important to note here is that the vast majority of
                                                                                    these cases are not officially recognized as being heat related be-
                                                                                    cause they mainly pertain to things like falling off of a ladder,
                                                                                    being hit by a moving crane, getting your hand caught in manufac-
                                                                                    turing machinery.
                                                                                       Moreover, we find that heat is not only a problem for outdoor
                                                                                    workers in construction or agriculture, but also for many indoor
                                                                                    workers. Think of industries like manufacturing, warehousing, and
                                                                                    wholesale.
                                                                                       So we think this is important, given the nearly exclusive policy
                                                                                    attention at least to date on heat illnesses, as opposed to injuries,
                                                                                    and also on outdoor workers. And, again, here is where the details
                                                                                    really seem to matter when it comes to climate inequality. How
                                                                                    much heat hurts is very much a function of individual and local
                                                                                    factors like income, occupation, or which neighborhood you live in.
                                                                                       For example, we find that the effective heat on injuries appears
                                                                                    to be at least five times larger for workers in the bottom quintile
                                                                                    of the income distribution relative to the top, in part because they
                                                                                    are just that much more likely to work in dangerous occupations
                                                                                    and industries and to live and work in more extreme climates.
                                                                                       And these patterns of highly local climate inequality appear to
                                                                                    persist across a number of research settings whether that is the ef-
                                                                                    fect of heat on learning, which is something that I have worked on,




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                                                                                    heat on violent crime, or even maternal and all-cause mortality.
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                                                                                    dred years from now. These effects are occurring right now and are
                                                                                    likely to become much more acute, particularly given the amount
                                                                                    of warming we have baked into the system.
                                                                                       Just as an example, right, Chair Castor, voters in your district,
                                                                                    they can expect to experience over 60 additional days per year
                                                                                    above 90 degrees Fahrenheit within their lifetimes even with ag-
                                                                                    gressive climate mitigation. So the upshot to conclude, in my opin-
                                                                                    ion, is that, as policymakers, we may want to use this opportunity
                                                                                    to think carefully about how to build smart adaptation mechanisms
                                                                                    into whatever climate policies are put in place, and at least when
                                                                                    it comes to heat, it appears that doing so may have inequality re-
                                                                                    ducing benefits as well.
                                                                                       So, in my written testimony, I outline some important data gaps
                                                                                    and additional policy implications at the Federal level around in-
                                                                                    frastructure, racial achievement gaps, and air pollution, which
                                                                                    hopefully we can speak to in more detail during the Q&A.
                                                                                       Thank you very much, and I look forward to our discussion.
                                                                                       [The statement of Mr. Park follows:]
                                                                                                            Written Testimony of Dr. R. Jisung Park
                                                                                     Assistant Professor of Public Policy, University of California, Los Angeles
                                                                                                                      Before the
                                                                                         U.S. House of Representatives, Select Committee on the Climate Crisis
                                                                                                                   Hearing Title:
                                                                                              ‘‘Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action’’
                                                                                                                              July 15, 2021
                                                                                       Chair Castor, Ranking Member Graves, and members of the Select Committee,
                                                                                    thank you for the opportunity to testify today on this important issue.
                                                                                       My name is Jisung Park, and I am a professor at the University of California Los
                                                                                    Angeles. Given my training as a PhD economist, my job is mainly to describe eco-
                                                                                    nomic data and its implications for our understanding of the issue, not to make po-
                                                                                    litical statements. Indeed, the bulk of my testimony will focus on what we can learn
                                                                                    about the intersection of climate, environmental justice, and economic inequality by
                                                                                    looking carefully at economic data.

                                                                                                                                Summary
                                                                                       The country has just seen two record heat waves in the West, with a third in
                                                                                    progress now. We are just now beginning to learn the full extent of the costs of heat:
                                                                                    in human lives, diminished livelihoods, and increased instability. What my research
                                                                                    shows in particular is how the costs and burdens of heat fall unequally, in ways
                                                                                    that have not been previously measured.
                                                                                       New work by my colleagues and me shows heat to be a much more serious prob-
                                                                                    lem than previously understood. Using data from over 11 million worker’s com-
                                                                                    pensation claims, we find that heat increases workplace injuries significantly, likely
                                                                                    causing tens of thousands of workplace injuries per year in California alone.
                                                                                       Because many of these injuries are not officially tagged as being caused by heat,
                                                                                    official statistics may significantly under-estimate the magnitude of heat’s effects.
                                                                                    We find that hotter temperature increases injuries even in many indoor environ-
                                                                                    ments, including manufacturing and warehousing, implying that many more work-
                                                                                    ers might be exposed to climate risk than previously understood.
                                                                                       The effects of heat fall disproportionately on low-income workers, who are more
                                                                                    likely to work in more dangerous industries and to live and work in already hotter
                                                                                    places. Heat also reduces the rate of learning and human capital formation more
                                                                                    for under-represented racial minorities and low income communities, which means
                                                                                    climate change may exacerbate recent trends in economic inequality.
                                                                                       These and other often hidden impacts suggest that the distribution of heat bur-




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                                                                                    emissions and the ongoing rise of global temperatures. While many important data
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                                                                                    previously unappreciated. However, even if we are successful at reducing emissions,
                                                                                    there is likely an urgent need for more coordinated adaptation and resilience policy.
                                                                                    1. The Economic Costs of Climate Change
                                                                                       Numerous studies show that climate change could cost the US economy several
                                                                                    trillions of dollars in damages within the next 2 to 3 decades, and possibly tens of
                                                                                    trillions by the end of this century.1 Given the interconnectedness of global supply
                                                                                    chains and financial markets, climate shocks may already be affecting companies’
                                                                                    profits and putting individual wealth at risk in ways that markets have not fully
                                                                                    accounted for.2
                                                                                       My understanding is that the committee has heard from my economist colleague
                                                                                    Professor Michael Greenstone in a previous hearing regarding the aggregate eco-
                                                                                    nomic costs of climate inaction and the social cost of carbon. In my testimony, I’d
                                                                                    like to focus on the aspects of climate impacts that may be less familiar or front
                                                                                    of mind, and which may inform our understanding of the interactions between cli-
                                                                                    mate policy and environmental justice.
                                                                                    2. Extreme Heat: A Thousand Tiny Cuts
                                                                                      Despite the public’s greater familiarity with more visibly salient climate risks
                                                                                    such as wildfires, hurricanes, and drought, recent research suggests that the
                                                                                    stealthier and somewhat routine setbacks of a hotter climate may exact some of the
                                                                                    largest costs, especially in the near term. My research provides new evidence that
                                                                                    hotter temperature is already affecting the economy in profound and highly unequal
                                                                                    ways, including direct physical injuries to workers and long-term effects on student
                                                                                    achievement and learning.
                                                                                    Heat and Labor
                                                                                       For instance, consider the effect of heat on labor. We may all be familiar with the
                                                                                    way hotter temperature—particularly in settings without adequate air condi-
                                                                                    tioning—can affect our ability to concentrate and get our jobs done. But how often
                                                                                    do those of us in this room think about the consequences of hotter temperature for
                                                                                    our own health and safety?
                                                                                       New evidence suggests that extreme temperatures increase workplace safety risks
                                                                                    significantly, especially for workers in baseline dangerous—often manual labor-in-
                                                                                    tensive—occupations and industries. In research done by myself and colleagues at
                                                                                    UCLA and Stanford, which will be published as a working paper next week, we find
                                                                                    using data from over 11 million worker’s compensation claims in California that hot-
                                                                                    ter temperature increases workplace accidents and injuries substantially.3 Working
                                                                                    on a day with temperatures above 90°F leads to a 5 to 9 percent increase in same-
                                                                                    day injury claims: a day above 100°F leads to a 10 to 15 percent increase.
                                                                                       Perhaps surprisingly, the vast majority of these excess claims are for injuries that
                                                                                    are ostensibly unrelated to temperature: things like falling off a ladder or mis-
                                                                                    handling dangerous machinery. Also notable is the fact that, in addition to large ef-
                                                                                    fects in predominantly outdoor industries like construction, agriculture, and mining,
                                                                                    heat leads to significant increases in injuries even in some indoor industries, includ-
                                                                                    ing manufacturing, warehousing, and wholesale. This is important because over 24
                                                                                    million Americans work in manufacturing, wholesale, and transportation and
                                                                                    warehousing, which is over twice as many as work in agriculture, construction, and
                                                                                    mining.4
                                                                                       These patterns are consistent with a recent study of Texas workers which finds
                                                                                    that a day above 100°F increases injuries by over 8 percent 5, and with research that

                                                                                       1 Burke, Marshall, Solomon M. Hsiang, and Edward Miguel. ‘‘Global non-linear effect of tem-
                                                                                    perature on economic production.’’ Nature 527.7577 (2015): 235–239. Hsiang, Solomon, et al.
                                                                                    ‘‘Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United States.’’ Science 356.6345
                                                                                    (2017): 1362–1369. Burke, Marshall, W. Matthew Davis, and Noah S. Diffenbaugh. ‘‘Large po-
                                                                                    tential reduction in economic damages under UN mitigation targets.’’ Nature 557.7706 (2018):
                                                                                    549–553.
                                                                                       2 Pankratz, Nora MC, and Christoph M. Schiller. ‘‘Climate change and adaptation in global
                                                                                    supply-chain networks.’’ Available at SSRN 3475416 (2019). Bakkensen, Laura A., and Lint Bar-
                                                                                    rage. Flood risk belief heterogeneity and coastal home price dynamics: Going under water?. No.
                                                                                    w23854. National Bureau of Economic Research, 2017. Global Financial Stability Report: Mar-
                                                                                    kets in the Time of COVID–19 (imf.org)
                                                                                       3 Park, R. Jisung, Pankratz, Nora, and A. Patrick Behrer. ‘‘Temperature, Workplace Safety,
                                                                                    and Labor Market Inequality’’ IZA Discussion Paper (2021).




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                                                                                       4 https://www.bls.gov/bls/industry.htm
                                                                                       5 Dillender, Marcus. ‘‘Climate Change and Occupational Health Are There Limits to Our Abil-
                                                                                    ity to Adapt?.’’ Journal of Human Resources 56.1 (2021): 184–224.




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                                                                                    finds hotter temperature to adversely affect cognitive performance and decision-
                                                                                    making in both outdoor and indoor environments.6
                                                                                       All told, we estimate hotter temperature currently causes upwards of 15,000 inju-
                                                                                    ries per year in California alone. This compares to official estimates of workplace
                                                                                    heat illnesses/injuries nationally on the order of 4,000 or fewer per year.7 Official
                                                                                    statistics rely on medical diagnoses, but it is often difficult to determine on a case-
                                                                                    by-case basis whether heat was a contributing cause. The National Institute of Oc-
                                                                                    cupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) therefore notes that official statistics are
                                                                                    likely to under-state true heat-related risks.8 Our estimates utilize empirical meth-
                                                                                    ods that measure excess injuries caused by hotter temperature within a given zip
                                                                                    code, and all worker compensation claims regardless of whether they are officially
                                                                                    recognized as being heat-related, and are therefore likely paint a more comprehen-
                                                                                    sive picture of heat-related workplace safety burdens than many previous studies.
                                                                                       In part because lower income workers tend to work in more dangerous occupa-
                                                                                    tions, and to live and work in places that experience more dangerous heat, they are
                                                                                    at least 5 times more likely to be hurt on the job due to heat than high income (top
                                                                                    quintile) workers.9 Many of these workers have relatively low levels of formal edu-
                                                                                    cation, and have seen stagnant or declining wage prospects in recent decades.
                                                                                       Workplace injuries not only have large direct health care costs, but lead to per-
                                                                                    sistent wage impacts that affect injured workers’ entire subsequent earnings trajec-
                                                                                    tories. For instance, research shows workers injured on the job face a subsequent
                                                                                    earnings penalty of 8% on average, and 30% for permanent disability. Serious inju-
                                                                                    ries that require hospitalization can also raise recruiting, training, and insurance
                                                                                    costs for employers, and can have ripple effects for society at large in the form of
                                                                                    increased disability payments and greater risk of personal bankruptcies. Including
                                                                                    both the direct medical costs and indirect costs such as time away from work, in-
                                                                                    creased risk of layoff, future chronic health issues, and productivity spillovers, each
                                                                                    workplace injury serious enough to be reported to worker’s comp costs society nearly
                                                                                    $50,000, which means that the total societal costs of injuries caused by heat is ap-
                                                                                    proximately $750 million per year in California alone.10
                                                                                    Heat and Learning
                                                                                      Another example of heat’s hidden impacts is on learning and human capital for-
                                                                                    mation. When we think of weather-related disruptions to schooling, we may typi-
                                                                                    cally think of snow days; ‘‘heat days’’ are certainly less common, or at least they
                                                                                    have been historically.11
                                                                                      Work that I have done shows that students’ cognitive performance declines signifi-
                                                                                    cantly on hotter days. In a study of over 4 million high school exam records, I find
                                                                                    that students taking an exam on a 90°F day are nearly 10 percent less likely to
                                                                                    pass the exam, and subsequently less likely to graduate with a high school di-
                                                                                    ploma.12
                                                                                      Hotter temperature may also reduce the rate of learning over time. In a study
                                                                                    of approximately 12,000 schools across the U.S., colleagues at BU, Georgia State,
                                                                                    and College Board and I find that a 2° Celsius (3.6°F) hotter-than-average year re-

                                                                                       6 Graff Zivin, Joshua, Solomon M. Hsiang, and Matthew Neidell. ‘‘Temperature and human
                                                                                    capital in the short and long run.’’ Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource
                                                                                    Economists 5.1 (2018): 77–105. Heyes, Anthony, and Soodeh Saberian. ‘‘Temperature and deci-
                                                                                    sions: evidence from 207,000 court cases.’’ American Economic Journal: Applied Economics 11.2
                                                                                    (2019): 238–65.
                                                                                       7 For instance, the BLS reports 2,830 nonfatal occupational injuries and illnesses involving
                                                                                    days away from work in 2015:
                                                                                    https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2017/work-injuries-in-the-heat-in-2015.htm.
                                                                                       8 For instance, in Jacklitsch et al. (2016): ‘‘Estimating the public health impact of extreme
                                                                                    heat is difficult because hospitals and health care providers are not required to report heat-re-
                                                                                    lated illnesses, such as heat stroke and heat exhaustion, to public health agencies. In addition,
                                                                                    heat-related deaths are often misclassified or unrecognized.’’ Jacklitsch, Brenda L, W Jon Wil-
                                                                                    liams, Kristin Musolin, Aitor Coca, Jung-Hyun Kim, and Nina Turner (2016), ‘‘Occupational ex-
                                                                                    posure to heat and hot environments: revised criteria 2016.’’
                                                                                       9 Park, R. Jisung, Pankratz, Nora, and A. Patrick Behrer. ‘‘Temperature, Workplace Safety,
                                                                                    and Labor Market Inequality’’ IZA Discussion Paper (2021). Dillender, Marcus. ‘‘Climate Change
                                                                                    and Occupational Health Are There Limits to Our Ability to Adapt?.’’ Journal of Human Re-
                                                                                    sources 56.1 (2021): 184–224.
                                                                                       10 Leigh, J Paul (2011), ‘‘Economic burden of occupational injury and illness in the united
                                                                                    states.’’ The Milbank Quarterly, 89, 728–772.
                                                                                       11 This may be changing.




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                                                                                       12 Park, R. Jisung. ‘‘Hot temperature and high stakes performance.’’ Journal of Human Re-
                                                                                    sources (2020).




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                                                                                    duces learning by approximately 3 percent, with far larger effects for Black and His-
                                                                                    panic students, and which accumulate over time.13
                                                                                       Despite the fact that the US is among the most highly air-conditioned countries,
                                                                                    a significant fraction of students appear to attend schools without working AC. Pub-
                                                                                    licly available data on school AC is lacking nationally, but recent surveys suggest
                                                                                    that many large urban districts do not have universal air conditioning. For instance,
                                                                                    only 60 percent of classrooms in Philadelphia, 55 percent in Baltimore, and 17 per-
                                                                                    cent in Milwaukee public schools are fully equipped with AC.14 Importantly, in what
                                                                                    was one of the first nationwide surveys of school air conditioning, we found that the
                                                                                    quality of school infrastructure is highly correlated with income and race: schools
                                                                                    with more under-represented minorities are less likely to have AC, even controlling
                                                                                    for average climate.15
                                                                                       A growing body of evidence suggests that it may be these subtler impacts of cli-
                                                                                    mate change that cumulatively comprise the lion’s share of economic costs. For in-
                                                                                    stance, the mortality costs of heat alone may be larger than the combined costs of
                                                                                    agricultural losses and sea-level rise. Even in the case of wildfires, evidence sug-
                                                                                    gests that it may be the smoke that causes more collective suffering, simply spread
                                                                                    more thinly across a wider base of individuals.16
                                                                                    3. Climate Change May Exacerbate Inequality
                                                                                       It is worth taking a step back to review the broader economic context in which
                                                                                    these damages are occurring. Climate change hits us as a time of growing wage in-
                                                                                    equality, stagnant upward economic mobility, and longstanding racial gaps in
                                                                                    wealth and the means to accumulate it: including notable gaps in educational
                                                                                    achievement. Economic inequality between those with and without access to higher
                                                                                    education has grown enormously, particularly since the 1990’s. And while the prom-
                                                                                    ise of America is that every individual has a fair chance at success, persistent edu-
                                                                                    cational achievement gaps hamper upward economic mobility for many racial mi-
                                                                                    norities. Even today, the average Black student scores three quarters of a standard
                                                                                    deviation below the average White student on measures of standardized achieve-
                                                                                    ment, roughly equivalent to 3 years of formal schooling.17
                                                                                       Emerging evidence suggests that the hidden costs of heat in particular may exac-
                                                                                    erbate underlying inequalities by race and income within the US. Not only will cli-
                                                                                    mate change exacerbate regional inequalities,18 differences in risks due to occupa-
                                                                                    tion or housing characteristics may lead to divergent impacts across individuals
                                                                                    within districts, cities, and even households. For instance, we find that heat-related
                                                                                    risks on the job are far greater for lower income workers within California, particu-
                                                                                    larly younger men without a bachelor’s degree. Similarly, in the case of students,
                                                                                    we find that the effect of heat on learning is far more negative for Black and His-
                                                                                    panic minorities and students in lower income school districts. The effect of a day
                                                                                    above 80°F is 2 to 3 times larger for Black and Hispanic students than whites.19
                                                                                       This has important implications for racial inequality and environmental justice.
                                                                                    The hidden consequences of heat for workplace safety and health may imply that
                                                                                    headline wage statistics understate the extent of total compensation inequality,
                                                                                    which may be further exacerbated by climate change.20 In the context of student
                                                                                    achievement, we estimate that differences in the thermal environment in which

                                                                                       13 Park RJ, Goodman J, Hurwitz M, Smith J. Heat and learning. American Economic Journal:
                                                                                    Economic Policy. 2020 May;12(2):306–9.
                                                                                       14 https://www.the74million.org/article/exclusive-too-hot-to-learn-records-show-nearly-a-dozen-
                                                                                    of-the-biggest-school-districts-lack-air-conditioning/
                                                                                       15 Park RJ, Goodman J, Hurwitz M, Smith J. Heat and learning. American Economic Journal:
                                                                                    Economic Policy. 2020 May;12(2):306–9.
                                                                                       16 Carleton, Tamma A., et al. Valuing the global mortality consequences of climate change ac-
                                                                                    counting for adaptation costs and benefits. No. w27599. National Bureau of Economic Research,
                                                                                    2020. Burke, Marshall, et al. ‘‘The changing risk and burden of wildfire in the United States.’’
                                                                                    Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 118.2 (2021).
                                                                                       17 Autor, David H. ‘‘Skills, education, and the rise of earnings inequality among the ‘‘other 99
                                                                                    percent’’.’’ Science 344.6186 (2014): 843–851. Goldin, Claudia, and Lawrence F. Katz. ‘‘Extending
                                                                                    the race between education and technology.’’ AEA Papers and Proceedings. Vol. 110. 2020.
                                                                                    Reardon, Sean F., et al. ‘‘Patterns and trends in racial academic achievement gaps among states,
                                                                                    1999–2011.’’ Unpublished Working Paper. Center for Education Policy Analysis, Stanford Uni-
                                                                                    versity (2013).
                                                                                       18 Hsiang, Solomon, et al. ‘‘Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United
                                                                                    States.’’ Science 356.6345 (2017): 1362–1369.
                                                                                       19 Park, R. Jisung, A. Patrick Behrer, and Joshua Goodman. ‘‘Learning is inhibited by heat
                                                                                    exposure, both internationally and within the United States.’’ Nature human behaviour 5.1
                                                                                    (2021): 19–27. Park RJ, Goodman J, Hurwitz M, Smith J. Heat and learning. American Eco-




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                                                                                       20 Park, R. Jisung, Pankratz, Nora, and A. Patrick Behrer. ‘‘Temperature, Workplace Safety,
                                                                                    and Labor Market Inequality’’ IZA Discussion Paper (2021).




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                                                                                    learning occurs—including school and home air conditioning—contribute up to 7
                                                                                    percent of racial achievement gaps. The implication is that leveling the environ-
                                                                                    mental playing field may close racial achievement gaps by a quarter of the total
                                                                                    gains achieved over the previous 4 decades.
                                                                                      These are just two examples. Recent research shows that hotter temperature also
                                                                                    increases violent crime at far higher rates in lower income neighborhoods,21 and
                                                                                    that it also increases the likelihood of violence among the prison population,22 who
                                                                                    often do not have access to air conditioning. Similarly, heat waves have been shown
                                                                                    to significantly increase birth complications, at far greater rates for Black mothers
                                                                                    than whites.23
                                                                                      Without remedial investments in climate mitigation and resiliency-enhancing in-
                                                                                    frastructure, climate change may further widen economic inequality and exacerbate
                                                                                    racial gaps in health, learning, earnings, and wealth. The effects of climate on
                                                                                    human capital inequality is particularly concerning given the growing importance
                                                                                    of cognitive skills in the labor market, and the well-documented correlation between
                                                                                    hotter local temperatures, income, and race.24
                                                                                    4. Policy-Relevant Data Gaps Remain
                                                                                       The data I’ve presented here provide some early clues regarding the potential con-
                                                                                    sequences of climate change for economic inequality and environmental justice: spe-
                                                                                    cifically, what economists refer to as the (progressive or regressive) distribution of
                                                                                    climate damages. But research on the economics of climate inequality is still nas-
                                                                                    cent, and many important data gaps remain. To start, better data collection on
                                                                                    workplace climate risks seems critical.
                                                                                       However, beyond heat, it is still not generally known how climate risk from hurri-
                                                                                    canes, windstorms, or wildfires is distributed across individuals by income, race, or
                                                                                    national origin within the US. Available cross-country evidence suggests that tor-
                                                                                    nado exposure is actually more concentrated in rich countries, whereas hurricane
                                                                                    and cyclone impacts are roughly evenly distributed across rich and poor countries.25
                                                                                       Even in cases where researchers have uncovered evidence of regressive damages,
                                                                                    there are still important knowledge gaps regarding why these inequalities arise, and
                                                                                    what can be done about them from a policy perspective. Not only is this potentially
                                                                                    important for modeling future climate damages, is it arguably critical for designing
                                                                                    effective adaptation policy.
                                                                                       Consider the effect of temperature on workers. It matters whether, in the face of
                                                                                    repeated climate shocks, workers are able to effectively adapt: for instance, by
                                                                                    switching industries, moving to cooler environments, or by communicating with em-
                                                                                    ployers about workplace risks and how best to reduce them. At the moment, there
                                                                                    are more questions than answers. Are low income workers constrained in their job-
                                                                                    switching or relocation decisions by limited access to credit? Does imperfect competi-
                                                                                    tion in the labor market—what economists call monopsony 26—make it harder for
                                                                                    workers to bargain for safer workplaces? How does the presence of unions affect
                                                                                    workplace climate adaptation?
                                                                                       Having a better understanding of the causes of inequality in climate impacts will
                                                                                    help policymakers understand where and how to target policy efforts—whether it
                                                                                    involves addressing clear market failures like credit or information asymmetries, or
                                                                                    simply providing targeted, means-tested transfers to lower income populations.
                                                                                       A related information gap relates to the effectiveness of existing social safety net
                                                                                    programs in buffering climate shocks, particularly for vulnerable populations. While
                                                                                    there is some evidence that automatic stabilizers such as unemployment insurance

                                                                                       21 Heilmann, Kilian, Matthew E. Kahn, and Cheng Keat Tang. ‘‘The urban crime and heat
                                                                                    gradient in high and low poverty areas.’’ Journal of Public Economics 197 (2021): 104408.
                                                                                    Behrer, A. Patrick, and Valentin Bolotnyy. ‘‘Heat, Crime, and Punishment.’’ Stanford Hoover
                                                                                    Working paper (2021).
                                                                                       22 Mukherjee, Anita, and Nicholas Sanders. ‘‘The Causal Effect of Heat on Violence: Social Im-
                                                                                    plications of Unmitigated Heat Among the Incarcerated.’’ NBER Working Paper w28987 (2021).
                                                                                       23 Kim, Jiyoon, Ajin Lee, and Maya Rossin-Slater. ‘‘What to Expect When It Gets Hotter: The
                                                                                    Impacts of Prenatal Exposure to Extreme Temperature on Maternal Health.’’ American Journal
                                                                                    of Health Economics 7.3 (2021): 000–000.
                                                                                       24 Albouy, David, et al. ‘‘Climate amenities, climate change, and American quality of life.’’
                                                                                    Journal of the Association of Environmental and Resource Economists 3.1 (2016): 205–246. Hsu,
                                                                                    Angel, et al. ‘‘Disproportionate exposure to urban heat island intensity across major US cities.’’
                                                                                    Nature communications 12.1 (2021): 1–11.
                                                                                       25 Hsiang, Solomon, Paulina Oliva, and Reed Walker. ‘‘The distribution of environmental dam-




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                                                                                    ages.’’ Review of Environmental Economics and Policy 13.1 (2019): 83–103.
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                                                                                    are effective in the wake of more salient disasters such as hurricanes,27 and that
                                                                                    programs like means-tested home energy subsidies may be effective at blunting the
                                                                                    harmful effects of heat waves for the poor,28 it is as yet unclear whether and how
                                                                                    existing social safety net programs perform in the context of less salient shocks such
                                                                                    as hotter temperature or smoke from wildfires. There is still much we do not yet
                                                                                    know regarding the climate resilience benefits of existing or proposed programs, and
                                                                                    how best to strike the delicate balance between building resilience while creating
                                                                                    the right incentives for individuals, communities, and companies to adjust their be-
                                                                                    havior in ways that minimizes personal and economic harm.
                                                                                    5. The Potential for Inequality-Reducing Co-Benefits
                                                                                       I’ve provided preliminary evidence that, in the US, damages from hotter tempera-
                                                                                    ture are disproportionately felt by lower income communities and racial minorities.
                                                                                    To the extent that such patterns hold generally, the implication would be that the
                                                                                    benefits from climate mitigation—reducing greenhouse gases—may be progressive.
                                                                                    That is, reducing emissions may be inequality-reducing, or at least lean against fur-
                                                                                    ther widening of inequality due to climate change.
                                                                                       As noted above, it is worth being clear that there is much we do not yet know
                                                                                    about the distribution of climate damages, and I caution against blanket statements
                                                                                    about climate inequality as if it is a foregone conclusion. It’s important that policy-
                                                                                    makers get this right. One can imagine a scenario in which funding is allocated for
                                                                                    climate adaptation and resiliency projects that end up subsidizing the already rel-
                                                                                    atively well off. Whether that’s desirable is I think a question open for debate, but
                                                                                    the point is that we certainly would want to have the facts right when engaging
                                                                                    that discussion.
                                                                                       But there is another more immediate way in which addressing climate change
                                                                                    could have outsized benefits for historically disadvantaged communities: the poten-
                                                                                    tial health, education, and productivity co-benefits of cleaning the air we breathe.
                                                                                       Studies now show that air pollution can have profound adverse consequences for
                                                                                    health, cognitive performance, and economic opportunity: including effects on birth
                                                                                    defects, student achievement, violent crime, worker productivity, and even the onset
                                                                                    of dementia.29 Once again, the effects are subtle but pervasive. For instance, stu-
                                                                                    dents taking exams on a highly polluted day (AQI above 100) experience a negative
                                                                                    effect on performance similar to or larger than the effect of a hot (90°F) day. Impor-
                                                                                    tantly, we know that local air pollution is highly correlated with income and race.
                                                                                       This means that, if designed properly, investments in clean energy, clean trans-
                                                                                    portation, and other low-carbon infrastructure would not just slow climate change
                                                                                    but could also reduce air pollution. Estimates suggest that if the U.S. were to reduce
                                                                                    emissions in a manner consistent with our prior pledges under the Paris Accords,
                                                                                    the resulting air quality improvements would save 300,000 premature deaths by
                                                                                    2030.30
                                                                                       Here, it is important to note that policies that increase the cost of energy have
                                                                                    the potential to exact higher costs (as a proportion of expenditures) on lower income
                                                                                    populations.31 But recent analyses suggest that smart policy design—including tar-
                                                                                    geted rebates—can overcome the potential regressivity of such policies. Similarly,
                                                                                    while market-based policies bring the possibility of ‘‘environmental justice gaps’’,
                                                                                    wherein shifting of emissions lead to greater concentration of existing pollution in

                                                                                       27 Deryugina, Tatyana. ‘‘The fiscal cost of hurricanes: Disaster aid versus social insurance.’’
                                                                                    American Economic Journal: Economic Policy 9.3 (2017): 168–98.
                                                                                       28 Cicala, Steve. The Incidence of Extreme Economic Stress: Evidence from Utility Disconnec-
                                                                                    tions. No. w28422. National Bureau of Economic Research, 2021.
                                                                                       29 Isen, Adam, Maya Rossin-Slater, and W. Reed Walker. ‘‘Every breath you take—every dollar
                                                                                    you’ll make: The long-term consequences of the clean air act of 1970.’’ Journal of Political Econ-
                                                                                    omy 125.3 (2017): 848–902. Persico, Claudia L., and Joanna Venator. ‘‘The effects of local indus-
                                                                                    trial pollution on students and schools.’’ Journal of Human Resources 56.2 (2021): 406–445.
                                                                                    Ebenstein, Avraham, Victor Lavy, and Sefi Roth. ‘‘The long-run economic consequences of high-
                                                                                    stakes examinations: Evidence from transitory variation in pollution.’’ American Economic Jour-
                                                                                    nal: Applied Economics 8.4 (2016): 36–65. Bishop, Kelly C., Jonathan D. Ketcham, and Nicolai
                                                                                    V. Kuminoff. Hazed and confused: the effect of air pollution on dementia. No. w24970. National
                                                                                    Bureau of Economic Research, 2018. Graff Zivin, Joshua, and Matthew Neidell. ‘‘The impact of
                                                                                    pollution on worker productivity.’’ American Economic Review 102.7 (2012): 3652–73. Colmer,
                                                                                    Jonathan, and John Voorheis. ‘‘The grandkids aren’t alright: the intergenerational effects of pre-
                                                                                    natal pollution exposure.’’ (2020).
                                                                                       30 Shindell, Drew T., Yunha Lee, and Greg Faluvegi. ‘‘Climate and health impacts of US emis-




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                                                                                    sions reductions consistent with 2 C.’’ Nature Climate Change 6.5 (2016): 503.
                                                                                       31 Pizer, William A., and Steven Sexton. ‘‘The distributional impacts of energy taxes.’’ Review
                                                                                    of Environmental Economics and Policy 13.1 (2019): 104–123.




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                                                                                    lower-income neighborhoods, recent evidence suggests that these concerns can be
                                                                                    addressed with smart policy design.32
                                                                                      So investing in climate mitigation and clean energy infrastructure may have both
                                                                                    short and long term benefits that also address environmental justice concerns.
                                                                                    6. Proactive Climate Adaptation Policy
                                                                                       Even if we are successful at cutting emissions swiftly, a significant amount of
                                                                                    warming will still be baked in to the climate system, at least over the next 2–4 dec-
                                                                                    ades. For instance, within many of our lifetimes, individuals in Tampa, FL will like-
                                                                                    ly have experienced over 65 additional days per year above 90°F (by 2050), even
                                                                                    with aggressive mitigation efforts. That number is approximately 36 days in Baton
                                                                                    Rouge, LA, and 46 days in Birmingham, AL.33
                                                                                       This means that, in conjunction with aggressive decarbonization efforts (‘‘mitiga-
                                                                                    tion’’), policymakers may want to think proactively about climate resilience (‘‘adap-
                                                                                    tation’’). This is where the knowledge gaps I mentioned above present both a risk
                                                                                    and an opportunity.
                                                                                       An analogy to the Covid-19 response may be instructive. In part because the tim-
                                                                                    ing of the crisis was so unpredictable, policy responses to its economic fallout were
                                                                                    mostly reactive, and utilized relatively blunt policy instruments. Climate change is
                                                                                    a slower-burning crisis with far greater predictability. And we have much more data
                                                                                    to lean on, since many of the shocks in the near to medium term will not be quali-
                                                                                    tatively new—simply more frequent and stronger in intensity. This suggests that it
                                                                                    may be possible to engage in more proactive responses that use precision policy
                                                                                    tools.
                                                                                       Doing so may require significant investment in data collection, harmonization,
                                                                                    and research into the specific market failures that may hamper climate adaptation,
                                                                                    and in identifying key dimensions of vulnerability across individuals within the U.S.
                                                                                    The Federal government is well-positioned to perform crucial coordination functions.
                                                                                       One possibility is for the Federal government to create a Climate Adaptation and
                                                                                    Resiliency Agency,34 or an inter-agency working group similar to the one on the so-
                                                                                    cial cost of carbon, but aimed at better understanding the process of—and popu-
                                                                                    lation-specific barriers to—effective climate adaptation. Such efforts may help pro-
                                                                                    vide policymakers with the information necessary to better target adaptation and
                                                                                    resiliency investments so that they achieve policy objectives cost-effectively.
                                                                                       Thank you for the opportunity to share my views with the committee.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Well, I want to thank the witnesses for their very
                                                                                    insightful testimony, and I will recognize myself for 5 minutes of
                                                                                    questions. There is a common theme in all of your testimony today,
                                                                                    and that is how we move ahead on equitable and just climate pol-
                                                                                    icy, and it has got to be more than simply reducing carbon pollu-
                                                                                    tion. We have got to tackle environmental racism and help improve
                                                                                    the lives of everyday Americans, no matter who they are and where
                                                                                    they live.
                                                                                       Ms. Flowers, I heard you loud and clear about the differences you
                                                                                    have seen in just simple things like wastewater treatment, and,
                                                                                    you know, we just in the House passed the INVEST in America Act
                                                                                    where we made historic investments in wastewater treatment. This
                                                                                    is on the front burner for me here in Tampa because, when we
                                                                                    have these extreme rain events, our sewers overflow. It is pretty
                                                                                    gross. And now we have so much nutrients in Tampa Bay, we have
                                                                                    a massive fish kill, red tides they say—the scientists now say it is
                                                                                    going to last longer because the waters are warmer. I mean, this
                                                                                    is a toxic stew. We have got to repair and strengthen critical infra-
                                                                                    structure and do a better job.
                                                                                      32 Hernandez-Cortes, Danae, and Kyle C. Meng. Do environmental markets cause environ-
                                                                                    mental injustice? Evidence from California’s carbon market. No. w27205. National Bureau of
                                                                                    Economic Research, 2020. Shapiro, Joseph S., and Reed Walker. ‘‘Where is Pollution Moving?
                                                                                    Environmental Markets and Environmental Justice.’’ AEA Papers and Proceedings. Vol. 111.




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                                                                                       You talked about the—you chronicled the challenges pretty well,
                                                                                    what opportunities do you see if we really can deliver on significant
                                                                                    historic investments in cleaning up the water and make sure we
                                                                                    target those investments to communities of color and communities
                                                                                    on the front line, what opportunities do you see? Get specific with
                                                                                    us.
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Well, I think there are a number of opportunities.
                                                                                    I think one of the opportunities we will be seeing pretty quickly in
                                                                                    the health outcomes. Because we did a parasite study where we
                                                                                    found evidence of tropical parasites in Lowndes County where peo-
                                                                                    ple did not have access to adequate sanitation, and the people that
                                                                                    had the highest parasite loads were the people like the one I men-
                                                                                    tioned, Ms. Holcombe, who had raw sewage coming back into their
                                                                                    homes.
                                                                                       And the second outcome would be it can provide jobs, and good-
                                                                                    paying jobs, to people in the community where they don’t feel like
                                                                                    they have to leave and go to the cities or go to other areas to find
                                                                                    jobs.
                                                                                       And then, of course, I think the third thing is the economic op-
                                                                                    portunities in terms of being able to recruit businesses to come. I
                                                                                    mean, in those communities where you don’t have adequate sanita-
                                                                                    tion, businesses are not going to locate there. I used to be the eco-
                                                                                    nomic development coordinator for Lowndes County, and one of the
                                                                                    things they want to know is what kind of infrastructure is there.
                                                                                    And without infrastructure, those communities will continue to re-
                                                                                    main poor, and they will not even have the opportunities to recruit
                                                                                    basic services that they need in those areas without functioning in-
                                                                                    frastructure. So those are some immediate outcomes that we could
                                                                                    see.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Yeah. And we know that the American Society of
                                                                                    Civil Engineers ranked our infrastructure in the U.S. with a C-
                                                                                    minus grade, but when it comes to wastewater, D-plus; schools, D-
                                                                                    plus. So I know there are enormous opportunities out there to do
                                                                                    better.
                                                                                       And, Ms. Cooley, you mentioned for Tribal Nations, you have
                                                                                    your eye on solar and wind power. Do you see this as a big job cre-
                                                                                    ator making these investments in renewable energy?
                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Yes, definitely. As Ms. Flowers mentioned that
                                                                                    these jobs will train former mine workers and their families and
                                                                                    upcoming generations for solar and wind industries, based on the
                                                                                    reservation, based on Tribal lands so they do not have to go off the
                                                                                    reservation, away from their families, and away from what they ba-
                                                                                    sically have known for all their lives.
                                                                                       So it is important that we keep these—our people on the reserva-
                                                                                    tions, but the jobs and the training opportunities are immense. As
                                                                                    a member of one of the largest Native American Tribes out there,
                                                                                    there is great potential for job creation. Thank you.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Dr. Park, your recent research is eye opening. Pre-
                                                                                    viously, official estimates have been that exposure to heat caused
                                                                                    about 4,000 workplace injuries a year, but in your review of work-
                                                                                    er’s compensation claims, you say that, no, it is closer to 15,000 or
                                                                                    more just in California. Is that correct? Why have agencies like the




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                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Certainly. Within our estimates, I am not a physician,
                                                                                    but my understanding is that heat illnesses and injuries due to
                                                                                    heat are one of those things that are just quite difficult to attribute
                                                                                    definitively forensically on a case-by-case basis, and in order to ac-
                                                                                    tually do this, you need a vast amount of data and to look at it in
                                                                                    a way that allows you to look at the excess due to heat, but more
                                                                                    broadly, I think this is, in part, a function of lack of data collection
                                                                                    and interest in this issue.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Thank you. All right. We are going to go to Mrs.
                                                                                    Miller. You are recognized for 5 minutes.
                                                                                       Mrs. MILLER. Okay. Can you hear me now?
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Yes.
                                                                                       Mrs. MILLER. Okay. Thank you so much, Chair Castor and for
                                                                                    Ranking Member Graves.
                                                                                       And thank you to all of the witnesses here today.
                                                                                       We have an awful lot in common. I want to paint a picture now
                                                                                    of what is happening in Appalachia. There are thousands of homes
                                                                                    without sanitary, sewage, or septic service. That means human
                                                                                    waste goes right into the creeks and the rivers. There is a high rate
                                                                                    of opioid use and drug overdoses. There are adverse health impacts
                                                                                    in our communities compared to our surrounding regions, and
                                                                                    much more.
                                                                                       But these impacts are not a result of climate change, as my col-
                                                                                    leagues would like you to believe, but rather they are caused by the
                                                                                    policies of destroying energy communities.
                                                                                       If justice is really what we are here to talk about today, where
                                                                                    is the justice for these communities that have been left behind by
                                                                                    these policies? Both energy poverty and poverty caused by dan-
                                                                                    gerous policies must be considered by this committee.
                                                                                       However, we are never going to have those discussions if we con-
                                                                                    tinue to have reports like the one out of the White House Environ-
                                                                                    mental Justice Advisory Council as guidance [inaudible] by the ad-
                                                                                    ministration.
                                                                                       This Council stated that projects like carbon capture, nuclear
                                                                                    power, research and development, or any road improvements would
                                                                                    not benefit communities. Are you kidding me? These findings are
                                                                                    against what I believe, my colleagues across the aisle generally be-
                                                                                    lieve, and we should all be concerned that these are the principles
                                                                                    that are supposed to guide this administration. If we continue
                                                                                    down this same radical path, we are only going to put more people
                                                                                    at risk.
                                                                                       Mr. Hollie, energy poverty is a very real and, in many commu-
                                                                                    nities, experience it. How can the policies of shifting solely to re-
                                                                                    newables increase energy poverty in the communities?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Oh, simple. When you switch to solar and renew-
                                                                                    ables, it is going to drive up the cost of the energy, the price of en-
                                                                                    ergy in these communities. I am not against transitioning, but we
                                                                                    just got to do it slowly and sensibly.
                                                                                       Mrs. MILLER. I agree. What do you think the impact of that will
                                                                                    be on people’s health?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. In terms of jobs and what it is going to do in those
                                                                                    communities, it is going to be devastating just like—look, I had a




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                                                                                    chance to go back to the Appalachia, southwest Virginia, where my
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                                                                                    I have seen how people live back there. There are people right now
                                                                                    who have blue tarps on their house with tires holding it down be-
                                                                                    cause they can’t afford to get their roofs fixed. So that is how bad
                                                                                    the poverty is in Appalachia.
                                                                                       Mrs. MILLER. I just spent an entire day yesterday in McDowell
                                                                                    County discussing just those things with people that live there.
                                                                                    You probably have seen the White House Environmental Justice
                                                                                    Advisory Council’s Report on Environmental Justice. As I men-
                                                                                    tioned, the report outlines a multitude of policies that wouldn’t
                                                                                    benefit a community, such as infrastructure repair, procurement of
                                                                                    nuclear power, carbon capture, and research and development.
                                                                                       What do you think of these findings? I mean, how would they in-
                                                                                    crease energy poverty?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. I think it would be devastating to these commu-
                                                                                    nities. And one of the things we have talked about, too, is just mi-
                                                                                    nority impact assessments. Let’s do a study to show how these new
                                                                                    policies will impact these vulnerable communities. And so I think
                                                                                    that will be a start to help us all understand how this environ-
                                                                                    mental justice and these kinds of policies—what it will do to these
                                                                                    particular communities.
                                                                                       Mrs. MILLER. And we all share that. What policies should we put
                                                                                    in place to reduce energy poverty?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Sensible energy policy that won’t harm the environ-
                                                                                    ment and won’t harm the people who need the energy the most.
                                                                                       Mrs. MILLER. Thank you very much.
                                                                                       I yield back my time.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. All right. Next, Rep. McEachin, you are recognized
                                                                                    for 5 minutes.
                                                                                       Mr. MCEACHIN. Thank you, Madam Chair, for this hearing and
                                                                                    this opportunity to have a conversation with these knowledgeable
                                                                                    witnesses. The thing that I want to talk about right now is con-
                                                                                    sultation, and I will direct my first question to Ms. Coleman Flow-
                                                                                    ers.
                                                                                       Part of the administration’s work on this initiative and of my
                                                                                    work with Chairman Grijalva on EJ For All has centered on discus-
                                                                                    sion in coordination with an outreach to EJ communities. Meaning-
                                                                                    ful participation in this process from impact to the EJ communities
                                                                                    can help make sure that we are truly addressing the needs of these
                                                                                    communities.
                                                                                       As you have worked in this space, can you share with us what
                                                                                    is the benefit of this type of consultation? What ills can befall these
                                                                                    communities if they are not consulted with?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Thank you for that question, Representative
                                                                                    McEachin.
                                                                                       One of the things that—first of all, I come from an EJ commu-
                                                                                    nity, and I have lived in rural communities, and I have lived in
                                                                                    poverty. And oftentimes people that try to craft well-intentioned so-
                                                                                    lutions don’t know what it is like to deal with it on a day-to-day
                                                                                    basis. And that is why I try to take people to see it firsthand. See
                                                                                    people like Pamela Rush, who died last year in July from COVID
                                                                                    because her home, which was not energy efficient and had been
                                                                                    that way for quite some time because it was a mobile home, where




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                                                                                    she got a mortgage that she shouldn’t have received, but her family
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                                                                                    most people have never even dreamed about. We have taken people
                                                                                    there who couldn’t stay in the house for more than 5 minutes be-
                                                                                    cause they had never seen anything like that before.
                                                                                       And when we don’t consult with communities, you don’t go and
                                                                                    see for yourself, oftentimes people are doing more harm than good,
                                                                                    and I always invite everyone who is involved in policy—some peo-
                                                                                    ple oftentimes are trying to use an urban lens to solve these prob-
                                                                                    lems, but the same thing is true for environmental justice. If you
                                                                                    have to live down in St. James Parish and smell that stuff day in
                                                                                    and day out and then have to, you know, deal with it on a regular
                                                                                    basis, I think that people will have a different kind of perspective
                                                                                    on it.
                                                                                       So we have to consult with the community because oftentimes
                                                                                    they know what the solutions are. They have never been asked. It
                                                                                    is usually being crafted by people that are creating the problems
                                                                                    instead of people that want to be part of the solution.
                                                                                       Mr. MCEACHIN. Would you agree that we in Washington have to
                                                                                    resist the temptation to try to find one solution that tries to fit all
                                                                                    EJ communities rather than consult with them? Because as you
                                                                                    just suggested, oftentimes they have the answer; someone just
                                                                                    needs to ask the right question.
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. That is correct. I mean, I think that I am not an
                                                                                    expert on Flint because I didn’t grow up in an urban area, but I
                                                                                    can certainly tell you about living in Lowndes County and what it
                                                                                    is like going to an outhouse, et cetera. So I think that we have to
                                                                                    consult with people in communities because they have different
                                                                                    problems in different communities, but I also think it is important
                                                                                    to note that the people in the community often times have the solu-
                                                                                    tion; they just haven’t been asked.
                                                                                       Mr. MCEACHIN. Right. I couldn’t agree more, which is one of the
                                                                                    challenges of implementing this program, is that we need to make
                                                                                    sure that we are consulting with these folks, letting them come up
                                                                                    with their solutions, helping them implement those solutions, and
                                                                                    then get out of their way while they fix their communities.
                                                                                       Ms. Cooley, again, I want to thank you for participating in to-
                                                                                    day’s hearing. Along a similar line, you note in your testimony that
                                                                                    indigenous people should be consulted thoughtfully from the ear-
                                                                                    liest stages of policy and research development, legal policy, ethical
                                                                                    and cultural best practices and requirements should be followed to
                                                                                    make consultation meaningful.
                                                                                       While this practice has tragically not always been followed by the
                                                                                    Federal Government in its interactions with indigenous people, can
                                                                                    you tell us what it looks like when it goes right?
                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Thank you for that question. Well, I think it has
                                                                                    been outlined that when you provide meaningful partnership, ade-
                                                                                    quate financing, access to resources, that a community thrives. And
                                                                                    you provide that support in the long term. There is a statistic out
                                                                                    there where it said that Native American communities receive $3
                                                                                    per person for disaster emergency funds, where the average U.S.
                                                                                    citizen receives $26 per person, and there is a big difference in
                                                                                    that.
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                                                                                    ereignty. You are also honoring that trust responsibility that the
                                                                                    government, that they have to Native American Tribes and what-
                                                                                    not.
                                                                                       So thank you for that question.
                                                                                       Mr. MCEACHIN. Thank you.
                                                                                       Madam Chair, I just want to reiterate, again, that we must in-
                                                                                    vest in environmental justice in disadvantaged communities that
                                                                                    have seen historical underinvestment. We need to listen to them as
                                                                                    we look forward to reaching a carbon-zero society. I appreciate the
                                                                                    witnesses weighing in on how we might do so. I look forward to
                                                                                    working with my colleagues and the administration to ensure that
                                                                                    we follow through on our promises with meaningful investments in
                                                                                    these communities and not just a one-size-fits-all response.
                                                                                       Madam Chair, I yield back and, again, I thank you for your cour-
                                                                                    tesy.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Well, thank you for your leadership Rep. McEachin.
                                                                                       Next, we will go to Ranking Member Graves. You are recognized
                                                                                    for 5 minutes.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to thank all the
                                                                                    witnesses for your testimony. That was helpful input and I appre-
                                                                                    ciate it very much.
                                                                                       Ms. Flowers, I want to ask you a question. You were on the
                                                                                    White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council, I believe,
                                                                                    and there was a recommendation in that report. It was on page 55,
                                                                                    and it said: ‘‘It would be unreasonable to have any climate invest-
                                                                                    ment working against harmed communities.’’
                                                                                       So, it would be unreasonable to have any climate investment
                                                                                    working against harmed communities. With that in mind, should
                                                                                    the United States be pursuing any policies that support, directly or
                                                                                    indirectly, forced labor or slave labor or child labor anywhere in the
                                                                                    world to advance clean energy goals in our country?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Well, that is a good question, but, first of all, I
                                                                                    can’t speak on behalf of the WHEJAC, but I can give you my per-
                                                                                    sonal opinion. I think that the United States should support
                                                                                    human rights no matter where it is, but I also believe that we
                                                                                    shouldn’t do any kind of harm. I have seen it, you know, when I
                                                                                    went to St. James and St. John’s Parish myself.
                                                                                       I am just, you know, FYI, when I trace my family history, I can
                                                                                    trace it back to Louisiana, actually to some of the original cages
                                                                                    that came from Canada and went back to Canada.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Oh——
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. So I have—my interest in what happens in Lou-
                                                                                    isiana is more than as an activist, but also with having family
                                                                                    there in Sicily Island and Catahoula Parish.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Oh, yeah. We are having our family reunion in De-
                                                                                    cember. You should come.
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. We might be cousins. But anyway, I would love
                                                                                    to—I think that what we have to do is find solutions as we—as the
                                                                                    previous question that was asked. There is no one-size-fits-all solu-
                                                                                    tion to this problem; however, I think that what the intended state-
                                                                                    ment was—and this is my opinion, not an official statement—is




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                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Thank you. I appreciate that. There was another
                                                                                    issue that we have kind of been trying to work through on the com-
                                                                                    mittee a bit, and it has to do with carbon capture. So capturing or
                                                                                    pulling greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere. In a recent report
                                                                                    by the Biden White House, they endorse carbon capture and utili-
                                                                                    zation, and they talk about the important role. It says, quote:
                                                                                    ‘‘There is a growing scientific consensus that carbon capture, utili-
                                                                                    zation, and sequestration, and carbon dioxide removal will likely
                                                                                    play an important role in decarbonizing efforts globally; action in
                                                                                    the United States can drive down technology costs, accelerate
                                                                                    CCUS deployment around the world,’’ and they say they are com-
                                                                                    mitted to accelerating it.
                                                                                       The Environmental Justice Report appeared to take a little bit
                                                                                    different approach. Do you have an opinion on whether or not you
                                                                                    believe that using carbon capture, removing greenhouse gases from
                                                                                    the atmosphere, should be a solution as we move forward?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Well, in my opinion, I think we shouldn’t put the
                                                                                    greenhouse gases in the atmosphere in the first place. I am con-
                                                                                    cerned about the livelihood of my 5-year-old grandson and seven
                                                                                    generations to come, but I also feel that when we look at solutions,
                                                                                    again, we have to go to the communities. There is some commu-
                                                                                    nities that might support carbon capture and some that might not.
                                                                                       So I think the solution lies with consulting with those commu-
                                                                                    nities that will be greatly impacted by it.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. So, if the communities are on board, do you think
                                                                                    we should just have local consultation, which I believe Ms. Cooley
                                                                                    cited at one point as well? You think that is the way we should
                                                                                    handle how to perhaps use that technology or not?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Well, if that community is open to the technology,
                                                                                    yes. If they are against it, I think, again, you have to have con-
                                                                                    sultation because, at the end of the day, I think you mentioned,
                                                                                    someone mentioned we can’t force people to do things. We see that
                                                                                    with the COVID vaccine, but I think we can find ways in which
                                                                                    we can come to some kind of common ground on how we are going
                                                                                    to address these problems, whether it is through carbon capture or
                                                                                    some other way.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. The report makes note and, again, the White House
                                                                                    Environmental Justice Advisory Council report, it says that there
                                                                                    should be an end to subsidies to investor-owned utilities. The big-
                                                                                    gest incentive or subsidy that the investor-owned utilities benefit
                                                                                    from is actually the incentives for wind and solar, the production
                                                                                    tax credit and the investment tax credit.
                                                                                       Does that—is the task force opposed to those subsidies as well,
                                                                                    and do you think we should remove those?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. I do not speak for the task force, but I think that,
                                                                                    you know, you may want to ask for a consensus. You got to remem-
                                                                                    ber people represent places from around the country, so I don’t
                                                                                    speak on behalf of the task force, and I don’t have an opinion on
                                                                                    that.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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                                                                                       I do have questions for the panel, but first I want to briefly ad-
                                                                                    dress, frankly, the disappointing and inaccurate comments about
                                                                                    my state, the great State of California, made by my friend and my
                                                                                    colleague, Mr. Graves, who seems to often confuse electricity rates
                                                                                    with electricity bills. He is fond of talking about electricity rates,
                                                                                    but our constituents, his and mine, we ultimately all pay bills, and
                                                                                    more impacts those bills than solely rates.
                                                                                       So if we take a look at the facts, as I know my friend likes re-
                                                                                    minding colleagues to do, we find that Louisiana has significantly
                                                                                    higher electricity bills than California. In fact, Louisiana ranks
                                                                                    41st with some of the highest electricity bills in the nation.
                                                                                       And let us not forget another important point. Clean energy
                                                                                    sources are now generally cheaper than fossil fuels. In fact, in
                                                                                    2020, the EIA published an analysis that found that solar power
                                                                                    is 20 percent to 50 percent cheaper than it had projected just the
                                                                                    year before. The analysis goes on to say this: Solar is now the
                                                                                    cheapest electricity source in history. I will repeat that. Solar is
                                                                                    now the cheapest electricity source in history.
                                                                                       The bottom line is that every few years, we hear about the pre-
                                                                                    dicted death of California. I have been involved in California public
                                                                                    affairs and politics for my entire adult life, and every once in a
                                                                                    while we hear, oh, California is dead. And every few years when
                                                                                    we hear that, we know that it is only a matter of time before those
                                                                                    prognosticators are proven completely wrong once again.
                                                                                       So my standing invite to my friend, Mr. Graves, exists to visit
                                                                                    our great State of California anytime. Meet with our policy leaders.
                                                                                    Ask them tough questions. Bring your fossil fuel industry talking
                                                                                    points, whatever you want to do. Let’s actually have a good discus-
                                                                                    sion, rather than reciting tired talking points.
                                                                                       And I will also say this: This past year, we found that California
                                                                                    is head and shoulders above any other state when it comes to cre-
                                                                                    ating jobs and growing our economy. We have added more than 1.3
                                                                                    million jobs since April of last year. That is equal to the entire
                                                                                    workforce in Nevada, and it is larger than the growth in Texas and
                                                                                    New York.
                                                                                       Of course, we have challenges. No state is perfect. We have got
                                                                                    a ton of work to do. We have problems that have to be solved, but
                                                                                    let’s stay in the realm of facts.
                                                                                       So I am going to turn now to UCLA’s Dr. Park. And, Go Bruins.
                                                                                       I wanted to ask about grid reliability. How could an unreliable
                                                                                    electric grid worsen the impacts of extreme heat on low-income
                                                                                    workers and students?
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Thank you, Representative Levin. Go Bruins indeed.
                                                                                       So grid reliability would be a terrible issue, especially in light of
                                                                                    when extreme tends to hit. If your electricity is failing when the
                                                                                    demand is high, which in the summer tends to be right when the
                                                                                    temperature is high and people are running their air-conditioning,
                                                                                    given what we know about heat’s detrimental effects on student
                                                                                    learning—and by the way, very divergent and unequal affects by
                                                                                    race on student learning, as well as on worker safety and health,
                                                                                    I think it would be a big problem.
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                                                                                    tion? And are there resources that we can provide to help make
                                                                                    sure that our Native communities have access to clean electricity?
                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Thank you for that question, Representative Levin.
                                                                                    Native American communities do have access to the resources, such
                                                                                    as wind and solar, that are required to develop clean energy facili-
                                                                                    ties. What they don’t have is the adequate or reliable financing, the
                                                                                    training resources, or access to those renewable energy careers,
                                                                                    and also the infrastructure. They could greatly help in reducing the
                                                                                    reliance and negative impacts on fossil fuels and nuclear energy.
                                                                                       As I come from a nation who has heavily relied on, in the past,
                                                                                    on fossil fuel in extractive industry, the potential is great. We just
                                                                                    have to tap into it. We need that support in the form of financing
                                                                                    and access.
                                                                                       So I just want to also say that if you invest in this type of infra-
                                                                                    structure for Tribal communities, they also have the opportunity in
                                                                                    the future to help other non-Tribal communities if there were ever
                                                                                    to be some type of natural disaster. And I think a good example
                                                                                    is the Blue Lake Rancheria Tribe in northern California. During
                                                                                    the wildfires in the past couple of years, when PG&E shut off the
                                                                                    electricity to reduce wildfire threats, their microgrid actually sup-
                                                                                    ported surrounding non-Tribal communities and also patients that
                                                                                    were most at risk.
                                                                                       And so with that, thank you for the question.
                                                                                       Mr. LEVIN. Well, thank you.
                                                                                       And I am out of time. So, Chair Castor, from the great State of
                                                                                    California, I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Thank you, Rep. Levin.
                                                                                       Next, we will go to Rep. Carter. You are recognized for 5 min-
                                                                                    utes.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank all of the
                                                                                    panel members for being here today.
                                                                                       Mr. Hollie, I would like to ask you a couple of questions. And I
                                                                                    want to thank you, first of all, for testifying today and sharing
                                                                                    what I believe is an important view on the issue of environmental
                                                                                    justice.
                                                                                       We, you and I, share many of the same concerns about the poli-
                                                                                    cies that my colleagues and I have been discussing, and it also ap-
                                                                                    pears we share a passion for fishing. And as the Representative of
                                                                                    the entire coast of Georgia, over a hundred miles of pristine coast-
                                                                                    line, I love fishing. In fact, this is my home. It is where I have lived
                                                                                    all my life, and some of my fondest memories are fishing with my
                                                                                    dad as I was growing up, and I want to make sure that my sons
                                                                                    and grandsons have that same experience as I had as well.
                                                                                       You and I have engaged before, Mr. Hollie, on an issue pre-
                                                                                    viously in an Energy and Commerce Environmental Subcommittee
                                                                                    hearing, and I want to revisit some of that. It had to do with the
                                                                                    lessons that we learned from the cancellation of the Atlantic Coast
                                                                                    Pipeline and the harm that it did to communities.
                                                                                       In your testimony for today’s hearing, you echo some of those
                                                                                    thoughts when you say that you fear the same will happen to
                                                                                    healthy thriving communities that have relied on good-paying oil
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                                                                                    moving good-paying jobs in industries from environmental justice
                                                                                    communities?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Absolutely. But first I want to tell you, I docked in
                                                                                    Savannah when I took the boat to Florida, so I was there.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. Thank you. I appreciate that. Our economy appre-
                                                                                    ciates it.
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Like I said, I had a chance to go back to southwest
                                                                                    Virginia, where my grandfather was a Black coal miner. I am tell-
                                                                                    ing you, I saw the poverty that exists there, and it is a shame. And,
                                                                                    again, I know a lot of folks who live in Louisiana, live down in
                                                                                    Texas, and all those places, who are right now, they have jobs
                                                                                    within the oil and gas industry, and they are very, very concerned
                                                                                    about what is going to happen if their jobs go away. Their lifestyles
                                                                                    will be completely disrupted. And, again, these people have been
                                                                                    working—one of my guys has been working there for 27 years. And
                                                                                    so to try to train someone who is 54 on another job at that age I
                                                                                    just think is a little unrealistic.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. Absolutely. So what would you say that—where are
                                                                                    the areas that are most at risk for this, this kind of energy poverty,
                                                                                    as you described?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Energy poverty exists—see, the thing about energy
                                                                                    poverty, it is not a White or Black issue; it is an American issue.
                                                                                    And it is—and these people are in these vulnerable communities.
                                                                                    It is rural. It is senior citizens. It is minority and low-income com-
                                                                                    munities. Those are the ones right now who are struggling the
                                                                                    most. Those are the ones right now that this environmental justice
                                                                                    is supposed to protect, but these are the ones right now who are
                                                                                    struggling with energy poverty, and you can’t have a conversation
                                                                                    without including both of them.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. And when you talk about energy poverty and how
                                                                                    some of these Americans are spending more than 25 percent or
                                                                                    more of their total income on their electric bill—it has been re-
                                                                                    ported that the price of gas has gone up over 48 percent from a
                                                                                    year ago.
                                                                                       With these price increases in gas and nearly all other goods, as
                                                                                    we know inflation is going up as well, what is the effect going to
                                                                                    be on environmental justice communities? And will they see—and
                                                                                    will this increase energy poverty in our country?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Absolutely, because energy is a fixed price. When
                                                                                    the price goes up at the pump, you experience it everywhere. Even
                                                                                    the cost of a head of lettuce, a gallon of milk. Everything goes up
                                                                                    when the cost of energy goes up. When you go out to dinner, if you
                                                                                    have got a couple of dollars to spend out in a restaurant, your meal
                                                                                    is going to go up, because it costs more to cook the food on natural
                                                                                    gas. So these people will be impacted more so than anybody else.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. You know, you touched a little bit in your testimony
                                                                                    when you note that we are encouraging greater adoption of electric
                                                                                    vehicles. And I think that is great, and we all think it is great, but
                                                                                    90 percent of electric vehicle owners earn over $100,000 a year. If
                                                                                    energy prices and gas continue to go up, what groups are going to
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                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. It is going to be the environmental justice commu-
                                                                                    nities for sure.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. Obviously, it is.
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Yes.
                                                                                       Mr. CARTER. And, you know, that is what really frustrates me
                                                                                    sometimes, because I just don’t think that some of my colleagues
                                                                                    understand that the impact of higher energy prices impacts the
                                                                                    lowest incomes the most.
                                                                                       Look, I—you know, I have got 18 seconds left, and I always have
                                                                                    to mention that Georgia is the number one forestry state in the na-
                                                                                    tion, and I am proud of what we are doing in the way of energy
                                                                                    costs. But we have got to address this and we have got to address
                                                                                    climate change, but we have got to address it with an all-of-the-
                                                                                    above type energy policy that includes stable, reliable, affordable
                                                                                    energy.
                                                                                       So thank you, Mr. Hollie. I appreciate it.
                                                                                       And I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. All right. Thank you, Mr. Carter.
                                                                                       Next up, Rep. Casten, you are recognized for 5 minutes.
                                                                                       Mr. CASTEN. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you to all our wit-
                                                                                    nesses.
                                                                                       And I feel like I have got to be the broken record because I feel
                                                                                    compelled to say this every time. And I know you have heard it be-
                                                                                    fore and I know you all know it is true; you just don’t like to ac-
                                                                                    knowledge that it is true. If you can heat your home, if you can
                                                                                    keep your lights on, if you can drive your car without burning fossil
                                                                                    fuel, you don’t have to pay for fossil fuel. It is freaking awesome,
                                                                                    saves a lot of money. Stop this nonsense that it is expensive. We
                                                                                    have to invest capital in order to save money, and that is in invest-
                                                                                    ments, period, full stop. Stop pretending it is not true.
                                                                                       It is a problem if you are in the business of extracting fossil fuel
                                                                                    or you are paid by people who are in that business. I get it. We
                                                                                    need to make sure that those people are protected and make it
                                                                                    through this transition, but please don’t show for that. We are look-
                                                                                    ing out for the American people here.
                                                                                       To that end, Ms. Flowers, I would like to start with you because
                                                                                    you mentioned energy efficiency, which is, of course, the way we do
                                                                                    this. And you mentioned some of the challenges that some of the
                                                                                    folks in your community have had getting access to energy effi-
                                                                                    ciency in their homes, which, of course, is going to give them hotter
                                                                                    showers, colder beers with less money.
                                                                                       A lot of utilities, a lot of states have tried to provide resources
                                                                                    to provide the upfront capital, to amortize that capital. It clearly
                                                                                    hasn’t worked as well as it should have to make sure that the
                                                                                    neediest among us get access to those more efficient homes.
                                                                                       Any suggestions on what we can or should do federally to accel-
                                                                                    erate the access to capital for people who, as my friend, Mr. Carter,
                                                                                    says, may not be able to afford that initial investment, but, man,
                                                                                    they will save a lot of money once that investment is made?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Well, I think among the many things—thank you
                                                                                    for the question. It is not my area of expertise, but I will say this:
                                                                                    Just as a consumer and what I have seen talking to people who




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                                                                                    have issues with having access to capital, I think, first of all, we
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                                                                                    communities, that in communities, these EJ communities, that cap-
                                                                                    ital is available so that the businesses there can benefit. Because
                                                                                    oftentimes what happens, no matter who is responsible or where it
                                                                                    comes in, the communities don’t benefit from it, and somebody
                                                                                    comes in from the outside, takes it and leaves, and leaves the com-
                                                                                    munity poor. And we need to change that.
                                                                                       We also need to make sure that the homes are energy efficient.
                                                                                    In Alabama, for an example, my home state, which I love dearly,
                                                                                    we are now tornado alley. And a lot of people are living in mobile
                                                                                    homes, and one of the reasons why we have had a high rate of peo-
                                                                                    ple dying has been because they lived in mobile homes, but they
                                                                                    are also not energy efficient, a lot of them.
                                                                                       Pamela Rush, who I mentioned before, her power bills were eas-
                                                                                    ily $400 and $500 a month, and she was living off approximately
                                                                                    $900 to $1,000 a month.
                                                                                       So we have to make sure that our homes are more energy effi-
                                                                                    cient, but make the capital available in those communities that
                                                                                    need it the most.
                                                                                       Mr. CASTEN. Well, thank you. And I hope in our infrastructure
                                                                                    plan we are able to make sure that that capital is available, be-
                                                                                    cause it is an investment, makes all Americans wealthier, and let’s
                                                                                    do it for good and selfish reasons.
                                                                                       Dr. Park, your testimony was fascinating, and I am particularly
                                                                                    interested in some of what you mentioned about some of the re-
                                                                                    gional differences in how these costs are borne. They particularly
                                                                                    brought to mind of one of our prior witnesses, Michael Greenstone
                                                                                    from University of Chicago and some of his work. I see you nodding
                                                                                    your head, so hopefully that means you are, in fact, connected, be-
                                                                                    cause I sure hope you folks are collaborating.
                                                                                       As you know, he has been, you know, dedicated a long time to
                                                                                    calculating the social cost of carbon and now trying to understand
                                                                                    the regional differences.
                                                                                       Can you give me some sense of these differences that you talked
                                                                                    about? Are we talking about, you know, a 2X difference between re-
                                                                                    gions? Is it a 10X difference? What is that disparity in your math
                                                                                    which we have seen, and how should we be thinking about that?
                                                                                    If we are to embrace markets and market solutions to pricing
                                                                                    externalities, how much does it vary regionally?
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Great. Well, thank you. That is a great question.
                                                                                       Michael Greenstone’s work is sort of like the trunk of the tree
                                                                                    of knowledge that I am branching off of, certainly something I am
                                                                                    familiar with.
                                                                                       And if I may, just in 10 seconds on a point you made that I think
                                                                                    is really important about costs. We have been talking a lot about
                                                                                    the potential for clean energy policy to be regressive in terms of
                                                                                    who bears the cost. That may in theory be true, but that is sort
                                                                                    of like saying that you could die from heart surgery. Yes, but it de-
                                                                                    pends on how you do it and how well you do it. And I really—I
                                                                                    think—you know, I won’t speak on behalf of all of my economist
                                                                                    colleagues, but I certainly think that, you know, many would agree
                                                                                    that it really comes down to smart policy design. There is nothing




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                                                                                    inherent to clean energy policy that needs to necessarily be regres-
                                                                                    sive in terms of the realized outcomes for low-income individuals.




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                                                                                       To your question about regional disparities, I think the honest
                                                                                    answer is that we are still learning. Is it 2X? Is it 10X? Is it, you
                                                                                    know, 15X? Because I think in part we know a lot about the phys-
                                                                                    ical impacts of climate change and how they vary. You know, I
                                                                                    could give you a table—and, in fact, maybe I will after our testi-
                                                                                    mony—you know, with each of the members here and how many
                                                                                    extreme heat days your constituents can expect in the next 20, 30
                                                                                    years with quite a bit of precision now. But what we don’t yet know
                                                                                    very well is just how much individuals in particular areas, depend-
                                                                                    ing on their occupation, their industry, their housing stock, the age
                                                                                    of their housing stock, how these things affect—you know, the ef-
                                                                                    fect of heat on electricity bills, your health, your learning, your pro-
                                                                                    ductivity, et cetera.
                                                                                       And so my guess would be that the regional disparities are very
                                                                                    large, which implies—the last point I will make is that—which im-
                                                                                    plies that the Federal rule probably will have an important—Fed-
                                                                                    eral Government will have an important role to play in spreading
                                                                                    out these risks as climate shocks manifest moving forward.
                                                                                       Mr. CASTEN. Thank you so much. I would love to see that data
                                                                                    if you have it.
                                                                                       I yield back.
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Sure.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. There is no doubt that Rep. Casten would like to
                                                                                    see any and all of the data, and we all would.
                                                                                       Next, we will go to Rep. Palmer. You are recognized for 5 min-
                                                                                    utes.
                                                                                       Mr. PALMER. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
                                                                                       I just want to make a point here in regard to things that have
                                                                                    been said by Ms. Flowers. I grew up in northwest Alabama. My
                                                                                    dad had maybe an eighth grade education. He was a logger. He
                                                                                    logged with a pair of mules and a chain saw. That is what I grew
                                                                                    up doing. Later, he started building roof trusses. I have actually
                                                                                    been on the roofs of homes putting new roofs on. So I understand
                                                                                    what it is to work in extreme heat, especially considering that I
                                                                                    was on the football team for the University of Alabama and we had
                                                                                    practices twice a day on artificial turf that, I am not kidding, the
                                                                                    temperature on that turf was 110 degrees.
                                                                                       So, Dr. Park, wouldn’t you agree that physical health and condi-
                                                                                    tion is a factor in how people respond to extreme heat or heat, pe-
                                                                                    riod?
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Is physical health a factor? Absolutely, absolutely.
                                                                                       Mr. PALMER. Absolutely. Thank you.
                                                                                       And I just wanted to point out that my grandparents, my dad’s
                                                                                    parents, lived in a house that was not only heated by a wood-burn-
                                                                                    ing stove, they cooked on it.
                                                                                       Ms. Flowers, I would put her blackberry cobbler up against any-
                                                                                    body from Lowndes County, or anywhere else, including Garrett
                                                                                    Graves’ district. I don’t know if they know how to make it in Lou-
                                                                                    isiana.
                                                                                       But I want to go on and I want to—Ms. Cooley, though the Nav-
                                                                                    ajo people did not arrive in the southwestern United States until
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                                                                                    negative impact on the indigenous peoples who were in those re-
                                                                                    gions at that time.
                                                                                       Are you aware of those droughts?
                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Well, first of all, that is what the archeologists say
                                                                                    where my—where they say my people are from, but I have a dif-
                                                                                    ferent viewpoint on that, but that is another session.
                                                                                       These disturbance regimes, such as these mega droughts that
                                                                                    you are talking about, are happening more frequently. And maybe
                                                                                    back in my ancestors’ days, they didn’t happen as much, but, yes,
                                                                                    they did happen, but there have been more —
                                                                                       Mr. PALMER. Well, actually, they were more frequent then and
                                                                                    lasted much longer. Some of them lasted over a hundred years at
                                                                                    that time. And the science says that it was more arid during that
                                                                                    period than any subsequent century. So the droughts were longer
                                                                                    and worse during that time, and it was because of warming. It was
                                                                                    climate change.
                                                                                       Mr. Hollie, I appreciate you being here as well. I want to touch
                                                                                    on something about lowering energy costs and what has happened
                                                                                    with hydraulic fracturing and how it brought down the cost of nat-
                                                                                    ural gas. It not only makes heating costs go down, it also lowers
                                                                                    cooling costs, which should make it more economically feasible for
                                                                                    lower-income households to keep their homes cooler.
                                                                                       There is a study out—I have got a paper here from Lancet, the
                                                                                    British Medical Journal. It says there is 17 times more people die
                                                                                    from cold than from heat. I have also found that there is enough—
                                                                                    it says that the cost of the lower natural gas cost, that it is esti-
                                                                                    mated that it has saved about 11,000 Americans from dying during
                                                                                    the winter every year.
                                                                                       I think of this in the context—and I brought this up many times,
                                                                                    and the other witnesses may have been notified that I would bring
                                                                                    this up, but Pembroke Township in Illinois, a town of 2,100 people,
                                                                                    85 percent African American, they don’t have a natural gas pipe-
                                                                                    line. They are heating their homes with wood-burning stoves and
                                                                                    propane because they can’t afford their utility bills.
                                                                                       Would you agree that we—that it would be a good thing to get
                                                                                    a natural gas pipeline into that township? That is what Jesse Jack-
                                                                                    son is trying to do and other civil rights leaders.
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. Yes, sir, absolutely. And the thing about it is most
                                                                                    times people don’t understand that there are more pipelines run-
                                                                                    ning under a city or state than anything. There is pipelines in
                                                                                    there. Another pipeline that is generating natural gas is not going
                                                                                    to hurt anyone.
                                                                                       Mr. PALMER. Well, I just want to point out too that even though
                                                                                    the recommendations from the White House was no road improve-
                                                                                    ments and no new pipelines, that that is going to be very detri-
                                                                                    mental to low-income people who desperately need additional infra-
                                                                                    structure.
                                                                                       My time has expired. I thank the chairman and the witnesses,
                                                                                    and I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. All right. Thank you.




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                                                                                       Mr. PALMER. Jared, you are muted.




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                                                                                       Mr. HUFFMAN. There we go. It was telling me that I was having
                                                                                    trouble with the host unmuting me. So I think I am audible now.
                                                                                    Am I okay?
                                                                                       Oh, good because I can now talk about my friend —
                                                                                       Mr. PALMER. Well, Kathy is the host; blame her.
                                                                                       Mr. HUFFMAN. I can now talk about my friend, Garrett Graves’
                                                                                    stubborn case of California envy. We have corrected him a few
                                                                                    times now on some of these anti-California canards, and I thank
                                                                                    my colleague, Mike Levin, for doing a great job of, once again, ex-
                                                                                    plaining the difference between electricity rates and electricity
                                                                                    bills.
                                                                                       But today, we heard a new creative set of allegations drawn from
                                                                                    a lawsuit, not an actual court decision, but a lawsuit, which is easy
                                                                                    enough to file. So I will just state the obvious. In California, like
                                                                                    everywhere else, we have industry-funded astro-turf groups and in-
                                                                                    dustry-funded lawsuits aimed at blocking climate reforms. But if
                                                                                    filing a lawsuit and lobbying a bunch of provocative allegations was
                                                                                    enough to make them true, then Rudy Giuliani would still have a
                                                                                    law license and Donald Trump would be President.
                                                                                       With very few exceptions, the people and experts who have dedi-
                                                                                    cated their lives to environmental justice and protecting disadvan-
                                                                                    taged communities are not hostile to clean air, to clean water, to
                                                                                    clean energy. They don’t worship at the altar of fossil fuels. Most
                                                                                    of them agree fossil fuel pollution is a huge problem, a really bad
                                                                                    thing. The climate change impacts are a huge problem. And if we
                                                                                    care about EJ communities and disadvantaged communities, then
                                                                                    we need more bold climate action, not less.
                                                                                       And so that is why I am really pleased that President Biden’s
                                                                                    American Jobs Plan commits 40 percent of the benefits of climate
                                                                                    and clean energy investments to disadvantaged communities. And
                                                                                    just last week, I had a chance in my district to see what that kind
                                                                                    of investment could look like: a new renewably powered microgrid
                                                                                    at the Redwood Coast Airport. This is a partnership that includes
                                                                                    local Indian Tribes, and it will provide clean renewable power and
                                                                                    flexible power that eliminates greenhouse gas emissions and builds
                                                                                    resilience to climate impacts. That is the kind of thing we are doing
                                                                                    in California.
                                                                                       And, Ms. Cooley, you mentioned this. You mentioned the Blue
                                                                                    Lake Rancheria, which is in my district. That was a previous
                                                                                    microgrid that I was pleased to support, but they are one of the
                                                                                    partners on this new microgrid. And I want to give you a chance
                                                                                    to respond to Mr. Hollie’s claims.
                                                                                       He is a very effective witness. He has become a bit of a frequent
                                                                                    flier for our Republican friends in these hearings, but his views are
                                                                                    really an outlier among those who have dedicated their lives to
                                                                                    serving disadvantaged communities, this notion that maintaining
                                                                                    our dependency on dirty fossil fuels is somehow good for low-in-
                                                                                    come people of color because it provides cheap energy and jobs.
                                                                                       So I wonder if you could speak to what you think of that view
                                                                                    and what you have seen happening in California, where I believe
                                                                                    the opposite is happening, where our climate programs are gener-
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                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Thank you, Representative Huffman, for that ques-
                                                                                    tion. As someone who was invited here to talk about the findings
                                                                                    of the staff report, I will tell you that the Tribal Nations have the
                                                                                    opportunity, like you said, not to be so reliant on the central grid,
                                                                                    on extractive, detrimental, the fossil fuel industry. I come from a
                                                                                    community that has seen and felt the impacts of positive but most-
                                                                                    ly negative.
                                                                                       And I guess decreasing the reliance also increases the resilience
                                                                                    against climate extremes, such as power outages, and also will de-
                                                                                    crease the long-term costs on less—and less reliance off of energy
                                                                                    sources off the reservation. This could help Tribes really achieve
                                                                                    that energy and economic independence, sovereignty, and also the
                                                                                    stability.
                                                                                       So that is what I would answer with. Thank you.
                                                                                       Mr. HUFFMAN. Okay. Dr. Park, same question for you on the job’s
                                                                                    side. And by the way, you know, I love UCLA too, because not ev-
                                                                                    eryone can get into UC Santa Barbara and they need a second
                                                                                    choice. So thank you for being part of our hearing.
                                                                                       And please speak to Mr. Hollie’s testimony as it pertains to the
                                                                                    upside economically of clean air and new jobs from clean energy.
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Thank you for that. I guess maybe I will start with
                                                                                    a general point, which is that, again, we have been focusing a lot
                                                                                    on the potential costs of clean energy, but there are a lot of hidden
                                                                                    benefits that research shows will benefit environmental justice
                                                                                    communities, low-income communities, possibly the most, particu-
                                                                                    larly in terms of reduced air pollution, which we now know has
                                                                                    very detrimental effects, not only on health but student cognition,
                                                                                    even onset of dementia, worker productivity, all of these things.
                                                                                       The oil and gas workers, you know, Mr. Hollie referred to, yes,
                                                                                    they may rely on that industry for their jobs, but the work that
                                                                                    they are doing is also silently poisoning them and affecting their
                                                                                    health as well. So, you know, these are things that we need to bear
                                                                                    in mind as we talk, have a holistic conversation, I think, about the
                                                                                    costs and benefits of climate policy.
                                                                                       Mr. HUFFMAN. All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Thank you.
                                                                                       Next, we will go to Rep. Gonzalez. Good to see you. You are rec-
                                                                                    ognized for 5 minutes.
                                                                                       Mr. GONZALEZ. Thank you, Chairwoman Castor and Ranking
                                                                                    Member Graves, for holding this hearing today, and to our distin-
                                                                                    guished witnesses for their testimony.
                                                                                       I think it is fair to say advocating for environmental justice is
                                                                                    relatively easy to just say it. What is not easy is facing politically
                                                                                    inconvenient facts about the feasibility of some of the policies pro-
                                                                                    posed or, in some cases, recognizing that aggressive advocacy may
                                                                                    direct community attention away from problems that pose a great-
                                                                                    er or certainly more immediate public health threat on the commu-
                                                                                    nities in question.
                                                                                       I would argue this political dilemma has been on full display over
                                                                                    the last few weeks, despite the Biden administration setting ambi-
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                                                                                    knowing that this will bring down the high gas prices currently
                                                                                    hurting low-income families.
                                                                                       Mr. Hollie, I don’t want to spend a ton of time on California. I
                                                                                    have lived there before. It is a beautiful state, but it is run hor-
                                                                                    ribly. In my view, Ohio is run much better, which is why I live
                                                                                    there. But, in any event, after California implemented their cap
                                                                                    and trade policy, researchers found it did not deliver local emission
                                                                                    reductions, public health, or air quality benefits to residents in low-
                                                                                    income communities. What it did do is it raised their utility bills,
                                                                                    which we know are already more than 8 percent of their income.
                                                                                    Four times higher than what wealthy American families pay.
                                                                                       Again, I have a lot of fond memories of my time in California,
                                                                                    but emulating their climate policies is not something that I think
                                                                                    we should be doing nationally and certainly not in Ohio.
                                                                                       My question is, how important is it to low-income minority fami-
                                                                                    lies that we keep their energy prices affordable?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. It is very important. And the thing about it, it is not
                                                                                    just me saying this. You have Reverend Jesse Jackson, Al
                                                                                    Sharpton, and the president of—God, I can’t—Mark Mauriello all
                                                                                    saying right now that we need natural gas as we transition to
                                                                                    clean energy. If we don’t, it is going to raise the cost for low-income
                                                                                    individuals, period.
                                                                                       Mr. GONZALEZ. Yeah. And I think that that is the really impor-
                                                                                    tant point is, again, I—maybe there are some folks who are saying
                                                                                    we shouldn’t address this at all. I am not hearing that in this com-
                                                                                    mittee, on either side of the aisle, but I think there is a question
                                                                                    of how do we do it and how do we do it in a way that is thoughtful
                                                                                    and isn’t going to hurt the very communities that we are trying to
                                                                                    help.
                                                                                       And, with that, I want to turn to Ms. Coleman Flowers. I would
                                                                                    like to touch on the report you worked on with the White House
                                                                                    Environmental Justice Advisory Council. There were some things
                                                                                    that you advocated as nonbeneficial to environmental justice com-
                                                                                    munities, and I just found them perplexing. So one is nuclear en-
                                                                                    ergy, which I am a huge fan of; second, carbon capture, road im-
                                                                                    provements; and the final one, R&D, which is probably the one
                                                                                    thing all of us on this committee agree on, I think.
                                                                                       Can you explain the thinking that led to suggest that Congress
                                                                                    and the White House should eliminate funding for these projects
                                                                                    moving forward?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Again, I can’t speak—and thank you for the ques-
                                                                                    tion, but I can’t speak on behalf of the White House Environmental
                                                                                    Justice Advisory Council. There were about 26 of the members who
                                                                                    gave their opinion, and they had various reasons for doing that,
                                                                                    and I am only one person. But I think that everyone that is on that
                                                                                    council is trying to find a way to address the problems in their
                                                                                    communities.
                                                                                       I would like to say and to offer that whatever we ultimately do,
                                                                                    I think all of us believe that there should be a just transition, be
                                                                                    it for people in environmental justice communities or those people
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                                                                                       Mr. GONZALEZ. Can I ask you, do you personally think we should
                                                                                    eliminate R&D funding?
                                                                                       Ms. FLOWERS. Research and development? Personally, no, I don’t.
                                                                                       Mr. GONZALEZ. Okay. Thank you.
                                                                                       Mr. Hollie, I don’t know if I will get this question in, but in your
                                                                                    testimony, you highlighted that over 60 percent of the world’s co-
                                                                                    balt is extracted from Congo and, in most cases, mined by Congo-
                                                                                    lese children who are forced into slave labor. It is atrocious.
                                                                                       Earlier this month, a group of more than 40 progressives—40
                                                                                    progressive groups signed a letter addressed to President Biden
                                                                                    and Members of Congress that we should prioritize environmental
                                                                                    concerns and access to affordable clean energy over issues such as
                                                                                    human rights abuses, which includes Congolese children in slavery.
                                                                                    As you know, China has been detaining hundreds of thousands of
                                                                                    Uyghur Muslims in interment camps.
                                                                                       How should global human rights injustices figure into our think-
                                                                                    ing on environmental justice?
                                                                                       Mr. HOLLIE. We need to include that, and that is my whole
                                                                                    thing. I am like, how can we talk about environmental justice and
                                                                                    just be us here in America? It has got to be a global issue. If not,
                                                                                    then we are hypocrites ourselves.
                                                                                       Mr. GONZALEZ. Yeah. I couldn’t agree more. I think it high-
                                                                                    lights—look, there is important tradeoffs, there are difficult trade-
                                                                                    offs, not an easy issue, and I hope that we can get to a place where
                                                                                    we start to recognize the inherent tradeoffs that are required to ac-
                                                                                    tually make progress.
                                                                                       And, with that, I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Okay. Next up, Rep. Brownley, you are recognized
                                                                                    for 5 minutes.
                                                                                       Ms. BROWNLEY. Thank you, Madam Chair. And I apologize for
                                                                                    being late to the hearing. I was tied up with a constituent who has
                                                                                    had a tragic death in their family, and I just couldn’t get away in
                                                                                    time for the hearing. But thank you for having it.
                                                                                       My question goes to Dr. Park. I represent Ventura County in
                                                                                    California. Ventura County is not the hottest county in our coun-
                                                                                    try, but it is heating faster than any other county in the country.
                                                                                    So this is a very important issue to farmworkers, to our ag commu-
                                                                                    nity, to our community at whole.
                                                                                       Oxnard is a city in Ventura County. Oxnard is a working class
                                                                                    family with a lot of EJ impacts and, you know, home to several
                                                                                    Superfund sites, et cetera. One thing that the City of Oxnard has
                                                                                    done locally is that they offer free fruit trees to their residents to
                                                                                    plant in their front yards, not only for food, but for shade.
                                                                                       So I guess my question, you had been—in your comments, in
                                                                                    your testimony, you talked about we need to look at smarter adap-
                                                                                    tation policies. Shade is, you know, certainly something that comes
                                                                                    to my mind quickly when we think about heat, heat equity, and,
                                                                                    you know, adaptation. What are some of the other, what you would
                                                                                    consider, smart adaptation policies that you would suggest?
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Great. Thank you for that question. Just a quick story
                                                                                    on that note. I will never forget driving back from a workshop in
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                                                                                    kind of give you a visual of the kinds of pressures that I imagine
                                                                                    your constituents are facing.
                                                                                       In terms of smart adaptation policy, I mean, you mentioned
                                                                                    trees. I am not as familiar with the efficacy of trees, but I do know
                                                                                    that they have cooling benefits, particularly in urban areas, though
                                                                                    you want to be careful about the water stress, right, in a state like
                                                                                    California. So there are tradeoffs certainly.
                                                                                       This may sound a little mundane, but even something as simple
                                                                                    as making sure that our schools, right, and homes in low-income
                                                                                    communities have reliable grids and access to air-conditioning
                                                                                    when they need it. You know, air-conditioning sometimes gets a
                                                                                    bad wrap in environmental circles because if the electricity grid is
                                                                                    not clean, it can lead to more greenhouse gas emissions; but if it
                                                                                    is a clean electricity grid, we know that air-conditioning can have
                                                                                    lifesaving benefits, particularly, again, for disadvantaged commu-
                                                                                    nities.
                                                                                       So those are just two suggestions, but I think there are many
                                                                                    more if we start to look more carefully under the hood in terms of
                                                                                    what kinds of investments and policies would be good to pursue
                                                                                    there.
                                                                                       Ms. BROWNLEY. So California has, you know, laws with regards
                                                                                    to protecting our farmworkers, particularly from heat, making sure
                                                                                    that they have water and shade, et cetera. Is there—can you make
                                                                                    any determinations about the impacts of those laws and, you know,
                                                                                    a quantifiable improvement?
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. That is another great question, and I am—you know,
                                                                                    I am going to be the typical researcher who says we need more
                                                                                    data and we need to do more research. But in this case, I think
                                                                                    we really do need more data to know exactly what kinds of policies
                                                                                    will be most effective at protecting workers from climate risks,
                                                                                    whether that is heat or something else, in part because as we have
                                                                                    learned from, I think, the COVID pandemic, there are difficult
                                                                                    tradeoffs involved when you are trying to regulate the workplace
                                                                                    from environmental hazards to make sure that the economic costs
                                                                                    are reasonable.
                                                                                       I tend to be an optimist and believe that there are ways to do
                                                                                    this. And, certainly, in our data we observe that the heat—the im-
                                                                                    pact of heat on injuries appears to be declining over time in Cali-
                                                                                    fornia, which may have something to do with the fact that Cali-
                                                                                    fornia was the first state to implement mandatory workplace heat
                                                                                    standards. But as a researcher, I do think there needs to be more
                                                                                    data collection and more research to really understand what kinds
                                                                                    of policies we want to be supporting at a Federal or local level in
                                                                                    terms of energy.
                                                                                       Ms. BROWNLEY. So there is not any comparative data that you
                                                                                    have for other states that haven’t implemented rules in the work-
                                                                                    place compared to California? I would assume that since California
                                                                                    is one of very few states that have, that the risks that you spoke
                                                                                    of in your testimony have got to be greater across—when you think
                                                                                    of the whole country.
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. I hesitate to make extrapolations, but that kind of
                                                                                    comparative analysis is certainly on my wish list of things that we




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                                                                                       Thank you, Madam Chair. I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Thank you.
                                                                                       Next, we will go to Rep. Bonamici. You are recognized for 5 min-
                                                                                    utes.
                                                                                       Ms. BONAMICI. Thank you so much, Chair Castor and Ranking
                                                                                    Member Graves. And to the witnesses, I have read all your testi-
                                                                                    mony, and I very much appreciate your being here today.
                                                                                       The record-breaking heat wave across the Pacific Northwest last
                                                                                    month was one of the deadliest natural disasters in my home state
                                                                                    of Oregon. And my heart goes out to the families of the 116 Orego-
                                                                                    nians who lost their lives. Those are those we know of so far. There
                                                                                    were many more across the region.
                                                                                       I want to repeat and emphasize this fact. Last week, the extreme
                                                                                    temperatures claimed more than a hundred lives in my home state
                                                                                    of Oregon. People died in their homes because of the heat. And as
                                                                                    temperatures surged to unprecedented triple digits, low-income
                                                                                    neighborhoods became heat islands. They are surrounded by con-
                                                                                    crete, excessive emissions from highways. Many seniors lacked air-
                                                                                    conditioning or even fans. Communities of color live on streets with
                                                                                    fewer trees and green spaces to provide shade. And that is, as we
                                                                                    know, because of historic redline policies from the past.
                                                                                       Dr. Vivek Shandas from Portland State University has been
                                                                                    studying these disparities for decades, and during the heat wave,
                                                                                    he and his son actually used a thermal camera and they went
                                                                                    around and measured temperatures in different neighborhoods
                                                                                    across Portland. In southeast Portland, Dr. Shandas recorded an
                                                                                    air temperature of 124 degrees. That was 25 degrees higher than
                                                                                    the measurement around the same time in more prosperous neigh-
                                                                                    borhoods.
                                                                                       So we can’t ignore the consequences of urban heat islands for
                                                                                    communities of color and low-income communities, and scientists
                                                                                    have already found that the deadly heat wave would have been vir-
                                                                                    tually impossible without human-caused climate change.
                                                                                       We have to take this bold comprehensive action to protect our
                                                                                    communities from similar disasters in the future.
                                                                                       So, Dr. Park, I want to follow up on Rep. Brownley’s questions.
                                                                                    Far too many lives were lost during the heat wave. And I am on
                                                                                    the Education and Labor Committee, and I am particularly con-
                                                                                    cerned about workplace conditions. Tragically, Sebastian Francisco
                                                                                    Perez, a 38-year-old farmworker, died at his work site in St. Paul,
                                                                                    Oregon, when temperatures were 115 degrees in the Willamette
                                                                                    Valley on June 26. This is unacceptable.
                                                                                       We know that the climate crisis means that more people like Se-
                                                                                    bastian are working in hazardous conditions. And Oregon followed
                                                                                    California and implemented standards, but it was after Mr. Perez
                                                                                    passed.
                                                                                       Dr. Park, so what steps should Congress take to make sure peo-
                                                                                    ple have access to workplace protections in the—with the threats
                                                                                    of extreme weather, but also we have the wildfire smoke that is be-
                                                                                    coming more and more prevalent?
                                                                                       Mr. PARK. Yeah, Representative, thank you for that question.
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                                                                                    tioned is something that is consistent with our data. You know, one
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                                                                                    injuries actually appears to be larger for younger workers, workers
                                                                                    in their twenties and thirties and forties, as opposed to workers in
                                                                                    their fifties and sixties. We still can’t say definitively why, but it
                                                                                    may have something to do with the kinds of occupations or indus-
                                                                                    tries and the dangerous work environments that they are working
                                                                                    in when the extreme heat hits.
                                                                                       In terms of policy responses, you know, again, I hesitate to make
                                                                                    blanket policy recommendations, but I think the research clearly
                                                                                    shows that this is an issue that official statistics historically may
                                                                                    have understated the importance of. And, again, I know we have
                                                                                    been talking a lot about the inequality and the environmental jus-
                                                                                    tice submission of this, but these are costs that are borne by society
                                                                                    as a whole as well. You know, the worker suffers in terms of pain
                                                                                    and medical bills and lost wages, but employers suffer lost produc-
                                                                                    tivity, retraining costs, hiring costs. We all pay into insurance sys-
                                                                                    tems, et cetera.
                                                                                       So, again, it is just—I think it is important to think of the issue
                                                                                    of heat and climate risks in general as affecting all sectors.
                                                                                       Ms. BONAMICI. Absolutely.
                                                                                       And I wanted to get a question in to Ms. Cooley as well. I appre-
                                                                                    ciate in your testimony you reference ocean acidification, harmful
                                                                                    algal blooms, hypoxia, and the consequences for indigenous liveli-
                                                                                    hoods. We know that warmer temperatures in the Columbia River
                                                                                    are further endangering salmon, which are a fundamental part of
                                                                                    the identity, culture, and treaty rights of our Northwest Tribes.
                                                                                    And in our region, the Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commis-
                                                                                    sion partners with NOAA’s Integrated Ocean Observation System
                                                                                    to manage a network of observation stations and buoys in the Co-
                                                                                    lumbia River.
                                                                                       So, Ms. Cooley, how can Congress better support partnerships
                                                                                    with Tribes to advance climate science, and what are some of the
                                                                                    existing barriers for Tribes in accessing funding for resilience ef-
                                                                                    forts?
                                                                                       Ms. COOLEY. Thank you, Representative. I think one of the main
                                                                                    things the U.S. Government can do is remove barriers to that Trib-
                                                                                    al sovereignty. As you mentioned, salmon and other subsistence
                                                                                    foods are absolutely critical. Actually, many Tribes call them crit-
                                                                                    ical infrastructure for their ways of life, and they use that to re-
                                                                                    spect, include, and also, you know, protect the Traditional knowl-
                                                                                    edges.
                                                                                       So the investment in funding, again, access to the resources for
                                                                                    the training of Native Americans to keep jobs on the reservation,
                                                                                    I think, is critical to the livelihoods in terms of their traditional
                                                                                    ways of life and their foods that they depend on.
                                                                                       Thank you.
                                                                                       Ms. BONAMICI. Thank you so much.
                                                                                       Madam Chair, I yield back.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Well, thank you very much.
                                                                                       You know, listening to our witnesses today here as we close out
                                                                                    the hearing, I think, I really appreciate your perspectives, and that
                                                                                    of the members who are coming from different parts of the country.
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                                                                                    leased last year into law, and we have an opportunity to do that
                                                                                    this summer through the American Jobs Plan, where we want to
                                                                                    direct 40 percent of the benefits of infrastructure investments to
                                                                                    environmental justice communities. They have been carrying a dis-
                                                                                    proportionate burden for too long, and that is hopefully what we
                                                                                    will be able to do.
                                                                                      So thanks again to our terrific witnesses.
                                                                                      Without objection——
                                                                                      Mr. GRAVES. Madam Chair.
                                                                                      Ms. CASTOR [continuing]. I would like to enter into the record
                                                                                    two reports. First, the introduction from a July 2021 report by the
                                                                                    Center for Progressive Reform, Earthjustice, and the Union of Con-
                                                                                    cerned Scientists, titled, ‘‘Preventing ‘Double Disasters’: How the
                                                                                    U.S. EPA Can Protect the Public from Hazardous Chemical Re-
                                                                                    leases Worsened by Natural Disasters.’’
                                                                                      The second is a July 2021 paper titled, ‘‘Widespread Race and
                                                                                    Class Disparities in Surface Urban Heat Extremes Across the
                                                                                    United States.’’
                                                                                      And I would also, in the interesting exchange of Ms. Cooley with
                                                                                    Representative Palmer over droughts in the Southwest, I just en-
                                                                                    courage everyone to go back to the most recent National Climate
                                                                                    Assessment that really made it clear through a scientific consensus
                                                                                    here that lower precipitation, increasing temperatures are ampli-
                                                                                    fying droughts, especially in the Southwest. And the National Cli-
                                                                                    mate Assessment states specifically that disproportionately is bur-
                                                                                    dening our Tribal communities.
                                                                                      So I encourage you all to refer back to that as well.
                                                                                      So, without objection, we will enter those into the record.
                                                                                      [The information follows:]
                                                                                                                    Submissions for the Record
                                                                                                                 Representative Kathy Castor
                                                                                                            Select Committee on the Climate Crisis
                                                                                                                              July 15, 2021
                                                                                    ATTACHMENT: Flores, D.; Kalman, C.; Mabson, M.; & Minovi, D. (2021 July).
                                                                                        Preventing Double Disasters: How the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
                                                                                        Can Protect the Public from Hazardous Chemical Releases Worsened by Nat-
                                                                                        ural Disasters. Center for Progressive Reform, Earthjustice, and the Union
                                                                                        of Concerned Scientists.
                                                                                    The report is retained in the committee files and available at:
                                                                                        http://progressivereform.org/our-work/energy-environment/preventing-double-disasters/
                                                                                    ATTACHMENT: Benz, S. A., & Burney, J. A. (2021). ‘‘Widespread race and class dis-
                                                                                        parities in surface urban heat extremes across the United States.’’ Earth’s
                                                                                        Future, 9, e2021EF002016.
                                                                                      The article is retained in the committee files and available at:
                                                                                        https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2021EF002016
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. And, Ranking Member Graves, do you have any
                                                                                    unanimous requests?
                                                                                       Mr. Graves. I have a UC request.
                                                                                       Ms. CASTOR. Go ahead.
                                                                                       Mr. GRAVES. Yes, ma’am. Madam Chair, we have a UC request
                                                                                    to submit a letter from the three river parish presidents to Presi-




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                                                                                    that electricity rates in California, if the Louisiana rate applied,
                                                                                    would go from an average of $124 to $58.
                                                                                      And, Madam Chair, most importantly, I have a document from
                                                                                    the James Beard Foundation showing that Louisiana restaurants
                                                                                    far surpass those in Alabama, just to get back and document
                                                                                    against Mr. Palmer’s underhanded comment about our ability to
                                                                                    cook.
                                                                                      Ms. CASTOR. Is there any objection to that?
                                                                                      Okay. Then, without objection——
                                                                                      Mr. PALMER. I object that he is trying to enter that false report
                                                                                    from Louisiana restaurants.
                                                                                      Ms. CASTOR. Well, thank you all again for your very insightful
                                                                                    testimony. We have a lot—we have our work cut out for us. Thanks
                                                                                    again.
                                                                                      And we are adjourned.
                                                                                      [The information follows:]
                                                                                                                    Submissions for the Record

                                                                                                                Representative Garret Graves
                                                                                                            Select Committee on the Climate Crisis

                                                                                                                              July 15, 2021
                                                                                    ATTACHMENT: Republican Committee Staff Analysis of the average cost of elec-
                                                                                       tricity bills in California if the Louisiana electricity rate was applied, using
                                                                                       April 2021 data from Saveonenergy.com.
                                                                                    Based off of this data, if electricity rates in California were the same as electricity
                                                                                    rates in Louisiana, the average monthly electric bill in California would be reduced
                                                                                    by 52.7%—falling from $124.33 per month to $58.73 per month.
                                                                                    The analysis is retained in the committee files and data used is available at:
                                                                                        https://www.saveonenergy.com/learning-center/post/electricity-bills-by-state/
                                                                                    ATTACHMENT: Letter from Matthew Jewell, St. Charles Parish President; Pete
                                                                                       Dufresne, St. James Parish President; and Clint Cointment, Ascension Par-
                                                                                       ish President, to President Biden regarding the industrial corridor that
                                                                                       spans from Baton Rouge to New Orleans, Louisiana.




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                                                                                    The letter is retained in the committee files and is available at:
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                                                                                                            United States House of Representatives
                                                                                                            Select Committee on the Climate Crisis
                                                                                                               Hearing on July 15, 2021
                                                                                              ‘‘Advancing Environmental Justice Through Climate Action’’
                                                                                                                      Questions for the Record
                                                                                                               Catherine Coleman Flowers
                                                                                                                  Founder and Director
                                                                                                  Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice
                                                                                                                    THE HONORABLE KATHY CASTOR

                                                                                       1. Ms. Flowers, the impacts of the climate crisis are not distributed equi-
                                                                                    tably, and we see many ways that climate impacts, from worsening
                                                                                    heatwaves to floods, hurt low-income households and communities of color
                                                                                    first and worst. What steps should Congress take to accelerate and ensure
                                                                                    disaster recovery reaches low-income and rural communities following dis-
                                                                                    asters?
                                                                                       According to a 2009 University of California report, floods, air pollution and ex-
                                                                                    treme heat are among the climate events that result in higher death for African
                                                                                    American and low-income individuals. This study also cited the economic factors as
                                                                                    determinants in this uneven distribution. In my view, systemic racism is also a fac-
                                                                                    tor.
                                                                                       A recent Washington Post article stated: A growing body of research shows
                                                                                    that FEMA (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/climate/FEMA-disaster-money-
                                                                                    climate.html), the government agency responsible for helping Americans recover
                                                                                    from disasters, often helps white disaster (https://www.nytimes.com/article/tropical-
                                                                                    storm-danny-hurricane.html) victims more than people of color, even when the
                                                                                    amount of damage is the same. Not only do individual white Americans often re-
                                                                                    ceive more aid from FEMA; so, do the communities in which they live, according
                                                                                    to several recent studies based on federal data.
                                                                                       How do we change this? First, Congress should accelerate disaster recovery in
                                                                                    low-income or BIPOC communities by making sure that the current formulas for
                                                                                    provide for equitable distribution of disaster relief. Regulations should allow for re-
                                                                                    covery aid to families living on heir’s property especially in rural communities.
                                                                                    Scorecards should be made public to show who received aid, how much and where
                                                                                    it was distributed. Also supporting the guidance offered in Justice 40 will also a
                                                                                    roadmap for equitable recovery.
                                                                                    https://data.globalchange.gov/report/uca-climategap-2009
                                                                                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/11/fema-black-owned-property/
                                                                                    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/07/climate/FEMA-race-climate.html
                                                                                       2. Ms. Flowers, in your written testimony, you note that climate-fueled
                                                                                    extreme weather events may exacerbate existing risks to frontline commu-
                                                                                    nities living near industrial and chemical facilities along the Mississippi
                                                                                    River. What are the existing risks to these communities, how could climate
                                                                                    change make things worse, and what should Congress do to help frontline
                                                                                    communities?
                                                                                       In accessing some of the risks to these communities and how climate change
                                                                                    makes things worse, I will reference a 2016 EPA publication entitled, What Climate
                                                                                    Change Means for Mississippi. ‘‘Coastal homes and infrastructure will flood more
                                                                                    often as sea level rises because storm surges will become higher as well. Rising sea
                                                                                    level is likely to increase flood insurance rates, while more frequent storms could
                                                                                    increase the deductible for wind damage in homeowner insurance policies. Many cit-
                                                                                    ies, roads, railways, ports, airports, and oil and gas facilities along the Gulf Coast
                                                                                    are vulnerable to the combined impacts of storms and sea level rise. People may
                                                                                    move from vulnerable coastal communities and stress the infrastructure of the com-
                                                                                    munities that receive them.’’ Testimony from others have already indicated the im-
                                                                                    pacts seen in places like Mississippi, but all along the Mississippi especially in Can-
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                                                                                       The Justice40 Initiative is a significant part of that commitment. For the first
                                                                                    time in our nation’s history, the Federal government has made it a goal that at least
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                                                                                    communities. The Justice40 Initiative has the potential to deliver tangible, positive
                                                                                    benefits to disadvantaged communities across the country; by investing in legacy
                                                                                    pollution cleanup, clean energy and transportation, quality housing, and more, the
                                                                                    Biden administration will help begin to address our nation’s legacy of injustice. This
                                                                                    will be strengthened by Congressional action.
                                                                                      Congress should pass the infrastructure plan and reconciliation package to pro-
                                                                                    vide good paying union jobs, as well as addressing overburden and underserved
                                                                                    communities that are greatly impacted by climate change.
                                                                                    https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2016-09/documents/climate-
                                                                                    change-ms.pdf
                                                                                       3. Ms. Flowers, in your testimony, you referenced the pollution burden on
                                                                                    environmental justice communities in St. James Parish and St. John the
                                                                                    Baptist Parish in Louisiana. In March 2021, United Nations human rights
                                                                                    experts condemned environmental racism in this area. Could you please
                                                                                    describe the kinds of health, environmental, and socio-economic challenges
                                                                                    these environmental justice communities are experiencing? How can Con-
                                                                                    gress help these communities? Please feel free to supplement your response
                                                                                    with any statements from environmental justice leaders and studies docu-
                                                                                    menting ongoing health, environmental, and socio-economic challenges.
                                                                                       The best way for me to respond to this question is to enter into the record the
                                                                                    following: Letter to President Biden from Sharon Lavigne, President, RISE St.
                                                                                    James
                                                                                    https://labucketbrigade.org/letter-from-sharon-lavigne-to-pres-biden-on-cancer-alley-
                                                                                    formosa-plastics/
                                                                                       Letter to Michael Regan, EPA Administrator: RE: Urge Consideration of Esca-
                                                                                    lating Hazards to Chemical and Industrial Facilities Due to Climate-Fueled Ex-
                                                                                    treme Events, Particularly on Environmental Justice Communities
                                                                                    https://cpr-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/house-select-cmte-climate-crisis-ltr-
                                                                                    epa-rmp-rule-improvements-072921.pdf
                                                                                       Finally, I am also including a recent study from Tulane University:
                                                                                    https://
                                                                                    law.tulane.edu/sites/law.tulane.edu/files/u1286/LTR%20Cancer%20Rates%20v%20Pollution-
                                                                                    Related%20Risk%202021-6-21%20rev.%202021-6-23.pdf.
                                                                                       Congress can help these communities by providing funding for the communities
                                                                                    to do the type of air quality monitoring needed to hold the manufacturers account-
                                                                                    able; enacting or enforcing laws that will protect these communities now, and cli-
                                                                                    mate action because the emissions from these industrial sources are creating the cli-
                                                                                    mate catastrophes that are impacting all of us and generations to come.

                                                                                                                      Questions for the Record

                                                                                                                        Nikki Cooley
                                                                                                      Co-Manager, Tribes & Climate Change Program,
                                                                                                               and Interim Assistant Director,
                                                                                                  Institute for Tribal Environmental Professionals (ITEP)
                                                                                                                Northern Arizona University
                                                                                                                    THE HONORABLE KATHY CASTOR

                                                                                      1. Ms. Cooley, the impacts of the climate crisis are not distributed equi-
                                                                                    tably, and we see many ways that climate impacts, from worsening
                                                                                    heatwaves to floods, hurt low-income households and communities of color
                                                                                    first and worst. What is the experience of Tribes and Indigenous commu-
                                                                                    nities working to recover from disasters and tap federal funding and re-
                                                                                    sources?
                                                                                    To the Honorable Kathy Castor:
                                                                                      Thank you for your question. Tribes and Indigenous communities have been ad-
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                                                                                    culturally unique ways of communicating with one another and with other commu-
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                                                                                    and oral histories should be incorporated. With the addition of forced relocation, cul-
                                                                                    tural assimilation and increasing climate change impacts, they have had the addi-
                                                                                    tion of learning and framing their emergency responses within a Western, non-Trib-
                                                                                    al and Indigenous paradigm.
                                                                                       Barriers such as a lack of effective leadership at local, state, federal, and Tribal
                                                                                    levels of government have prevented Tribal emergency management programs from
                                                                                    making greater progress on responding to and mitigating climate-driven hazards. It
                                                                                    is estimated that currently less than 25% of all Tribal nations have an Office of
                                                                                    Emergency Management, and less than 10% of those have full-time emergency man-
                                                                                    agers. Without a Tribal emergency management program, it is deeply challenging
                                                                                    to implement and adhere to a number of federal mandates and policies. It is impera-
                                                                                    tive that there is an Increase resources and support at the state and federal levels
                                                                                    to develop Tribal emergency management programs across Tribal and Indigenous
                                                                                    nations. Additionally, the increase in coordination with state and federally recog-
                                                                                    nized Tribal nations is needed for the Tribal nations to respond to and prepare for
                                                                                    climate driven hazards.

                                                                                                                              References Page
                                                                                       Zambrano, L., Byrne, S., Cedeno, J., Pastos, N., Nutter, R., Walsh, W., Akelerea,
                                                                                    J., Gutierrez, M., Zendejas, J., Gutierrez, P., McCabe, M., Sundown, E., Pennington,
                                                                                    J., Dent, L., Jones, W., Johnson, R., Ostenberg, R., & DesRosier, R. (2019). Building
                                                                                    Cultures of Preparedness with Tribes. Green Bay, WI.

                                                                                                                       Questions for the Record

                                                                                                                         Dr. R. Jisung Park
                                                                                                                 Assistant Professor of Public Policy
                                                                                                                   Luskin School of Public Affairs
                                                                                                                 University of California Los Angeles
                                                                                                                     THE HONORABLE KATHY CASTOR

                                                                                       1. Dr. Park, you have just completed new research on the extent of heat-
                                                                                    related injuries. Previously, official estimates have been that exposure to
                                                                                    heat causes 4,000 workplace injuries a year. But by reviewing worker com-
                                                                                    pensation claims, you have found that there are 15,000 or more workplace
                                                                                    injuries every year just in California. Why have agencies like the National
                                                                                    Institute of Occupational Health and the Bureau of Labor Statistics under-
                                                                                    estimated the dangers of exposure to heat in the workplace?
                                                                                       It’s worth taking a step back here. Agencies including the ones mentioned have
                                                                                    been noting that official statistics likely underestimate heat-related safety risks for
                                                                                    quite some time. I’m not a physician, but my understanding is that it is very dif-
                                                                                    ficult to forensically attribute a particular illness or injury to heat illness or other
                                                                                    heat-related factors on a case by case basis.
                                                                                       One difference between our study and many other previous analyses is that we
                                                                                    do not limit the analysis to incidents that are officially recognizable as heat ill-
                                                                                    nesses, but include in our analysis all injury types, and let the data tell us how even
                                                                                    those ostensibly unrelated injuries—which are vastly greater in number on aver-
                                                                                    age—vary with daily temperature.
                                                                                       2. Dr. Park, there are heat waves occurring across our country this sum-
                                                                                    mer. When temperatures increase to 100 degrees or more, how much does
                                                                                    the chance of injury increase and is this a significant increase in risk for
                                                                                    workers?
                                                                                       At least in our data, which covers the State of California, a day with maximum
                                                                                    temperature in the 100’s or higher leads to a roughly 10 percent (or higher) increase
                                                                                    in injury claims relative to milder days in the 50’s or 60’s.
                                                                                       3. Dr. Park, your data is from California, one of the few states with state
                                                                                    rules protecting workers from heat exposure. Does this suggest that the
                                                                                    risks might be even higher in other states without protective laws, and do
                                                                                    you believe we need stronger federal standards to protect workers from
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                                                                                       My co-authors and I hesitate to make strong claims regarding other states, given
                                                                                    the many potential differences in settings. We are also cautious not to interpret our
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                                                                                    decline in heat-sensitivity of injuries documented during our study period. That
                                                                                    said, it seems unlikely that the general relationship between hotter temperature
                                                                                    and workplace safety is limited only to California. In fact, another recent study that
                                                                                    uses similar worker’s compensation data from the state of Texas (Dillender, 2019),
                                                                                    finds a similar relationship between extreme temperature and injuries.
                                                                                       Whether we need stronger federal standards to protect workers from heat expo-
                                                                                    sure, and what form of regulation that would ideally take, are important questions
                                                                                    for which I believe we still need better data to decide. A useful analogy may be that
                                                                                    our study is more like an MRI or CT scan that helps reveal the scope of the problem
                                                                                    than a blueprint for the ideal treatment regimen moving forward. When it comes
                                                                                    to regulating the workplace, I think we should be cautious not to impose extra costs
                                                                                    that are ultimately born by workers, firms and the rest of society. It may also be
                                                                                    worth considering broader factors—including labor market concentration and mo-
                                                                                    nopsony generally—that may affect workers’ bargaining power, and which may ulti-
                                                                                    mately affect the likelihood that effective safety measures are put in place even
                                                                                    without specific regulation or oversight.
                                                                                       4. Dr. Park, a striking aspect of your findings is that it is not just farm
                                                                                    workers and construction workers who work outside who are at risk from
                                                                                    exposure to heat. You are finding that workers who work inside in ware-
                                                                                    houses, factories, and food processing facilities also are in danger when
                                                                                    temperatures rise. If you add these outdoor workers with at-risk indoor
                                                                                    workers, that is over 30 million Americans who can be at risk when our na-
                                                                                    tion is facing heatwaves like we are seeing this summer. Should we be con-
                                                                                    cerned about their safety? How serious were the heat-related injuries you
                                                                                    observed in the data? Did they cause workers to miss work and lose in-
                                                                                    come? Did they lead to serious injuries? Do we need stronger laws to pro-
                                                                                    tect Americans from the dangers of exposure to heat in the workplace?
                                                                                       Yes, our study finds that hotter temperature increases injuries not only in outdoor
                                                                                    settings, such as agriculture or construction, but also in some indoor settings as
                                                                                    well. These include industries like warehousing, manufacturing, and wholesale,
                                                                                    where there are many more potentially exposed workers. Data from occupational
                                                                                    surveys suggest that many of these workers often work in indoor environments that
                                                                                    nevertheless become very hot on warmer days, either because there is little to no
                                                                                    air conditioning, or because they are also contending with indoor sources of heat,
                                                                                    such as stoves and kilns or manufacturing machinery.
                                                                                       We know based on previous studies that injuries and illnesses serious enough to
                                                                                    be reported to worker’s compensation—which still only captures a subset of the to-
                                                                                    tality of injuries and illnesses on the job—end up causing significant economic dam-
                                                                                    age to workers, their families, and to society as a whole. This comes in the form
                                                                                    of direct costs such as medical expenses and lost wages due to missed work, as well
                                                                                    as indirect costs including adverse consequences for injured workers’ likelihood of
                                                                                    securing well-paying employment in the future (studies find that, on average, hos-
                                                                                    pitalizations lead to persistently lower wages) or employers’ costs of lost productivity
                                                                                    and retraining/recruitment.
                                                                                       5. Dr. Park, your findings are a stark illustration that the people who suf-
                                                                                    fer the most from the climate crisis are not the wealthy; they are low-in-
                                                                                    come workers and low-income communities. How much greater are the
                                                                                    risks for a low-income worker than a higher income worker? Why are low-
                                                                                    income workers at greater risk than upper income workers?
                                                                                       Emerging research suggests that climate change affects the rich and the poor in
                                                                                    different ways—not only across rich and poor countries, but also across individuals
                                                                                    within countries, even within individual states, cities, and neighborhoods. We are
                                                                                    still learning about the exact nature and extent of these differences, and what can
                                                                                    be done to better insulate the most vulnerable from climatic shocks.
                                                                                       In our study, we find that the average worker in the bottom quintile of the income
                                                                                    distribution experiences a five times greater risk of workplace injury due to heat.
                                                                                    This is in part because lower income workers are more likely to work in dangerous
                                                                                    work environments to begin with, and also because they are more likely to live in
                                                                                    hotter places due in part to housing costs.
                                                                                       6. Dr. Park, when people think about environmental justice, they think
                                                                                    about the extra pollution burdens that disadvantaged communities have to
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                                                                                    another significant dimension to this problem. Not only do low-income
                                                                                    communities face heavier pollution burdens and live in neighborhoods
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                                                                                    nities face much greater risks from heat exposure when they go to work.
                                                                                    You have also done work showing that exposure to heat stunts learning in
                                                                                    schools and that minority children are the most affected. Your work shows
                                                                                    why justice and the environment are inseparable issues. If we want our
                                                                                    disadvantaged communities to live in safe environments, if we want low-
                                                                                    income workers to work in safe workplaces, if we want children from low-
                                                                                    income communities to thrive at school, we have to take our environmental
                                                                                    threats—and especially climate change—seriously and urgently. Do you
                                                                                    have any recommendations for how we can address these issues?
                                                                                       Our work and others’ is beginning to show how climate change may exacerbate
                                                                                    underling economic inequalities. In other work my colleagues and I have done on
                                                                                    heat and learning, we find that hotter temperature is far more problematic for
                                                                                    learning for Black and Hispanic minorities and lower income students, in part be-
                                                                                    cause they are significantly less likely to have modernized school facilities that have
                                                                                    adequate ventilation and air conditioning. This points to an immediate area in
                                                                                    which policymakers may help to address the threats that climate change pose for
                                                                                    low-income communities: by investing in school infrastructure.
                                                                                       More broadly, the Federal Government could play an important role in getting
                                                                                    ahead of the climate adaptation curve: by investing in information-gathering and
                                                                                    policies that help prevent the climate shocks that are at this point inevitable from
                                                                                    further exacerbating economic inequalities. In particular, the Federal Government
                                                                                    could help engage in coordinating better data collection, as there is still much we
                                                                                    do not know regarding who is most vulnerable to various climate shocks and why.
                                                                                    Furthermore, research on risk mitigation and social insurance suggests that the
                                                                                    Federal Government also will need to play a role in helping to spread the risk of
                                                                                    climate shocks—which manifest differently across different parts of the country, hit-
                                                                                    ting some harder than others, and on time frames that may also vary by region—
                                                                                    across a wider pool of taxpayers.


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