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Sentencing Hearing Transcript — US v. Price

Filed January 13, 2022 in U.S. v. Price; one of 7 filings from this case.

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CourtU.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas, Houston Division
Filed2022-01-13

U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas, Houston Division · No. 4:20-cr-00522 · Doc. 118 · 2022-01-13 · Docket on CourtListener

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               UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS
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THE HONORABLE VANESSA D. GILMORE, JUDGE PRESIDING
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 
No. 4:20-cr-00522-1
       
  Plaintiff, 
vs. 
LEE E. PRICE, III,
       
      Defendant.
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SENTENCING HEARING 
                   
OFFICIAL REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
Houston, Texas
November 29, 2021
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APPEARANCES:
For the Plaintiff:
   Matthew G. Grisier
   Andrew Tyler
 
For the Defendant:
   Thomas S. Berg
 
Reported by:
Nichole Forrest, RDR, CRR, CRC
Official Court Reporter
United States District Court 
Southern District of Texas 
nichole_forrest@txs.uscourts.gov 
Proceedings recorded by mechanical stenography.  Transcript 
produced by Reporter on computer. 
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PROCEEDINGS
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(The following proceedings held in open court.) 
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THE COURT: United States of America versus 
Lee Price.  For the United States?  
Who is here for the United States?  
MR. GRISIER:  Matthew Grisier with Andrew 
Tyler. 
THE COURT:  Who did you say?  
MR. GRISIER:  I apologize, Your Honor.  
Matthew Grisier for the United -- 
THE COURT:  Grisier?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes.  With me is co-counsel, 
Andrew Tyler. 
THE COURT:  Tyler?  All right. 
For the defendant, please?  
MR. BERG:  Tom Berg. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Berg.  
We're here this morning for sentencing.  
Mr. Grisier, has the United States had a 
chance to review the presentence investigation report and 
addendum to that report?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes, we had. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Berg, did you and your 
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client get a chance to review the presentence 
investigation, as well as the addendum to that report?  
MR. BERG:  We did. 
THE COURT:  Then presentence investigation 
and addendum will be placed into the record under seal.  
In the event there is any appeal of this case, the only 
portion that will not be disclosed will be that portion 
that contains a sentencing recommendation from the 
probation department to the Court.  
There were objections by the United States 
and by the defense.  
Let me turn first to the government's 
objection.  The government essentially objects to the 
calculation, basically the base-offense-level issue, which 
I've looked at and looked at again with the probation 
department.  
And I think that the probation department 
got it right.  When we have to go back and look at 2B1.1 
in calculating it, it comes out to be a 27.
I guess it's y'all's position you think it 
should be 28.  We should use A and not B?  
MR. GRISIER:  That's correct, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Have you looked at it again 
since you looked at the addendum?  
MR. GRISIER:  I have, Your Honor, as has 
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co-counsel.  Representation that I have is that 
essentially what we did was calculate using 
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THE COURT:  I have to go back to B; to 
B1.1.  It refers me back.  I have to look at 2B1.1; then I 
have to look at B.
MR. GRISIER:  It's the 2S1.1(a)(2) that 
refers back to 2B1.1.  We're looking at 2S1.1(a)(1). 
THE COURT:  I know.  But then you've got a 
1957.  I have to go back to 2B1.1.  You started out as 18 
USC Section 1957.  
Anyway, the government's objection is 
overruled.  I think that it's a 27 and not a 28.  
MR. GRISIER:  Understood. 
THE COURT:  I think it's appropriately 
calculated by the probation at the lower number. 
I think that's the only objection of yours 
that you had that hasn't been addressed by the addendum.  
Is that correct? 
MR. GRISIER:  That is correct, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  Then let me go to the 
defendant's objection.  
Mr. Berg, your objections are essentially 
that you don't think that he should get the specific 
offense characteristic in paragraph 50 for the more than 
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one million because he got less than a million dollars 
from each of the two banks that he defrauded and that I 
should not aggregate those amounts for the $1.7 million 
that he got to give him the plus-two.  
Is that basically it?  
MR. BERG:  That is basically it.  That is 
how I read those provisions. 
THE COURT:  The objection is overruled.  
And then the second objection is to 
essentially paragraph 53, the obstruction of justice.  
Look, really?  He's going to try to say he 
didn't obstruct.  He's going out there telling witnesses 
not to talk to the government; that's obstruction.  That's 
like ridiculous.  
So that objection is overruled.  
On the other hand, I will give you the 
three points for acceptance of responsibility because he 
did at least try to accept responsibility at the end.  
I'll give you the three points for acceptance of 
responsibility.  That takes the total offense level in 
paragraph 57 to 26, which changes the guideline range in 
paragraph -- changes the guideline range in paragraph 105, 
I guess it is, to -- that changes that to 110 to 137.  
Does it change the fine range?  
THE PROBATION OFFICER:  The bottom of the 
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fine range is 25,000. 
THE COURT:  Then the fine range in 
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THE PROBATION OFFICER:  I believe it's 
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THE COURT:  That changes the range from 
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Mr. Berg, was there any other factual 
inaccuracies in the report that could have an impact on 
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MR. BERG:  No, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  The Court adopts the 
presentence investigation report and the addendum with the 
changes that the Court has just made today.  Finds that 
the statutory range of punishment on Counts 1 and 2 is not 
more than 20 years; Counts 3, 4, 5, not more than ten 
years.  Supervised release on Counts 1 through 5 not more 
than three years.  Fine $4,045,265.46.  Restitution 
$1,689,952.  Special assessment is $500.  
Under the sentencing guidelines, based on 
the total offense level of 26, Criminal History Category 
of V, provides for a guideline range of 110 to 137 months.  
Supervised release term of one to three years.  Fine range 
$25,000 to $4,045,265,46.  Restitution $1,689,952.  
Special assessment is $500.  
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All right, Mr. Berg, would you like to say 
anything on behalf of your client?  
MR. BERG:  Well, my client -- I would like 
him to speak first.  
THE COURT:  He wants to speak first?  
MR. BERG:  Yes.  He and I spent a long 
time getting to this point where he can speak well as to 
his circumstances.  
THE COURT:  All right.  That's fine.  
Mr. Price, what would you like to say? 
THE DEFENDANT:  I wrote a letter to you as 
well I stand before you guilt. 
THE COURT:  Speak into the mic.  I want to 
be able to hear what you're saying.  
THE COURT REPORTER:  Excuse me, Your 
Honor, I can't hear the defendant. 
THE COURT:  Speak up.  
THE DEFENDANT:  I stand before you a 
guilty man.  Guilty of having made a terminal mistake and 
all honesty, it was mistake because you knew better 
(indiscernible) would bring -- 
THE COURT:  Slow down.  I want to hear 
what you're saying.  You need to go slower and a lot 
louder.
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hear the defendant.  
(Due to defendant's mask and inadequate 
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THE COURT:  Did you look at your criminal 
history?  
You don't have a year since you were 15 
that you weren't involved in something in the criminal 
justice system.  Not one year.  Every single year; 27 
different offenses charged against you since you were 15 
years old.  I have never seen a criminal history like 
this.  You haven't tried to do anything with your life at 
all.  What is the deal?  
Talk to me.  Stop reading stuff to me.  
Talk to me.  
THE DEFENDANT:  That's kind of the first 
time I actually had which I knew -- I have -- I'm -- when 
I actually had there and look at it.  It was more of a -- 
THE COURT:  This is you.  Every single 
year since you were 15, 16 years old you've had an 
allegation of a crime.  You didn't get convicted of all of 
them.  Some of them they just let go because you got 
convicted of other crimes.  So they kind of rolled them 
all together.  
I couldn't believe it.  It's page after 
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page after page after page.  This guy -- I look at your 
family history, and it doesn't look like this is the kind 
of life you should have had based on that family that you 
came from.  It doesn't look like it goes together.  
You got a GED, went to college for a 
minute, and then you just decided that you were just going 
to be a thief.  You just kind of made up your mind one 
day, I'm just going to be a thief or what?  
THE DEFENDANT:  No.  I think it was -- I 
was running with a lot of (indiscernible) when I came out 
here to Houston, I started college at Texas Southern.  I 
ran with a lot of older crowds that were -- and no way on 
the right path.  
THE COURT:  Uh-huh.  
THE DEFENDANT:  So I kind of got pulled 
towards a certain direction.  Honestly, at that time 
coming up, I enjoyed it.  I liked it.  It was a life that 
I chose.  And as growing up and now obviously having a 
child now and seeing, you know, exactly how much it's 
costing me, and just watching news recently, I was seeing 
so many deaths popped up, I decided what if I had died?  
Now when I got really -- my obituary that was something 
that I could not (indiscernible) myself.  
THE COURT:  What's your future plan?  
THE DEFENDANT:  I enrolled in school.  I 
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plan on taking my credits.  I'm working on curriculum.  
I'm following it, but they don't offer mail 
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And I do plan on -- hopefully I'm going 
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You're just 30 years old, and you have this much criminal 
history.  You need to slow your roll.  You'll be dead 
before you're 40.  
This doesn't make any sense.  It literally 
doesn't make any sense.  You have a dad who retired from a 
job that he spent 30 years in, a good job, and a mom who 
is doing good stuff, and parents who were trying to figure 
out how to make the best of the divorce situation and go 
back and having an opportunity to be parented by both 
parents.  This makes literally no sense.  
Then you mess up your mom's house by 
putting money on her house.  You messed up her deal.  What 
did you do pay off the mortgage or something?
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes.  
THE COURT:  You thought you were doing her 
a favor by paying her mortgage off with stolen money.  It 
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didn't turn out to be a good favor.  Now she's going to 
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THE DEFENDANT:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Did you tell her that she had 
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THE DEFENDANT:  Yes.  
THE COURT:  They work hard in regular 
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That makes no sense at all.  Mess up your mom's whole 
deal.  That makes no sense.  You going to mess up her 
house that she already lived in -- how long had she lived 
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THE DEFENDANT:  Maybe since '97. 
THE COURT:  When?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Maybe since '97.  
THE COURT:  So 20 years.  She been paying 
on the mortgage for 20 years.  Doing fine on her own I 
guess.  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  Then you come in and you're 
like big man on campus and put $50,000 on her mortgage and 
make her seem like it's all good.  Now she's got a big 
lien from the government on her house that she had already 
been paying for 20 years.  Mess up her whole deal.  Makes 
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to be a real estate investor?  Is that what you said?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, Your Honor.  I still 
have partial real estate company now that my child's 
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THE COURT:  Okay.  All right.  
Mr. Berg, would you like to say anything 
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MR. BERG:  I would.  My first words to my 
client when we met were that a con man above all cons 
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THE COURT:  Pardon me?  
MR. BERG:  A con man above always cons 
himself before he cons anybody else.  And Mr. Price's 
struggle will be, as it has been, in not deceiving himself 
as well as deceiving others.  
Like I said, we've spent months over this 
particular issue:  Getting him to acknowledge his 
responsibility.  We got there I think, at least in terms 
of acceptance of responsibility for this, and he is taking 
some affirmative steps to get more education and a bit 
more focus in his life.  It will be a battle not to take 
the easy way.  That is his struggle.  And we can only do 
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of the lower sentencing guidelines that we've got, he's 
going to do a substantial sentence for this crime.  And he 
needs -- I've reiterated to him constantly that he needs 
to take advantage of that time, to do things that are 
positive.  If he's to have a relationship with his child, 
he's got to work on himself.  
THE COURT:  Absolutely.  
MR. BERG:  But I think he's capable of 
doing it.  He's talented and intelligent, but it's 
misspent.  
THE COURT:  I like that con man's first 
con is himself.  He's trying to convince himself what he 
was doing was some legitimate business deal here.  This 
was nothing but theft.  No different than sticking up a 
store.  Sticking up a bank.  
Anything from the United States, 
Mr. Grisier?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes, Your Honor.  The 
motivating factors here appears to have been the 
defendant's guilt -- excuse me, his greed.  And as a 
result of his greed, the defendant obtained $1.6 million 
in funds set aside by Congress and the Small Business 
Administration for small business relief during the 
uncertain months of the COVID pandemic.  
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meant that through these fraudulent applications he took 
that money off the table from a qualifying small business 
that perhaps needed that money to help make ends meet, 
keep employees on the payroll, or meet other qualified 
expenses under this Paycheck Protection Program.  
This was a sophisticated offense, Your 
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planning on the defendant's part.  
As a result of that planning, the 
defendant obtained this money and spent it not on any 
businesses or any approved expense rather but on luxury 
cars, a Rolex watch, nightlife and entertainment.  
But Your Honor has already addressed in 
some detail the defendant's criminal history and without 
going too much further into it, the government would just 
point out that there are echoes of this offense in some of 
his previous offenses and convictions, including the use 
of false identifying information to obtain luxury 
vehicles.  That is an offense dating back from 2014.  I 
believe it's detailed in paragraph 65. 
THE COURT:  Right.  Right.  
MR. GRISIER:  Along with that, Your Honor, 
shortly after his arrest in this case, after he was placed 
on bond, the defendant was -- almost immediately stepped 
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back and had his bond revoked, and he has indeed been in 
custody since August 31 of 2020 I believe, well over a 
year now.  
All these things being considered, Your 
Honor, the government would ask -- would suggest that 
there is a need for deterrence for this particular 
defendant, and there is a more general need for 
deterrence, as well for the general public.  
While the Paycheck Protection Program, I 
believe, has expired at this time, Your Honor, there is 
certainly other emergency relief loan programs that come 
about as a result of Congressional authorization, whether 
that is due to a hurricane, an economic disaster from time 
to time, and there is need for that general deterrence for 
the public when these programs come up to not take 
advantage of them in the way that the defendant has done.  
So all those things being considered, the 
government would advocate for a sentence within the new 
guideline range and specifically on the higher end of that 
range, between 130 and 137 months.  
Also, so we have a clean record as to the 
defendant's acceptance, the government is moving for the 
additional point -- 
THE COURT:  I saw that in your -- I guess 
it was in your clarification or objections.  It was in 
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your notice of objections and clarification information 
with respect to the acceptance of responsibility.  So that 
was clear to the Court.  
So when I granted the defendant's 
objection with respect to not getting credit for 
acceptance of responsibility, I counted that third point 
in there.  That is how I got to 26.  Obviously, you know 
that.  But I did see that in your statement.  So that is 
why I included that in there.  
All right. 
MR. GRISIER:  Thank you, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  The Court will state the 
sentence at this time.  The lawyers will have a final 
opportunity to make objection before the sentence is 
imposed.  
It is the judgment of this Court that the 
defendant, Lee E. Price, III, is hereby committed to the 
custody of the Bureau of Prisons to be imprisoned for a 
term of 110 months as to Counts 1 through 5.  All such 
terms to run concurrently, for a total offense term of 110 
months.  
The defendant is before this Court for 
sentencing.  Having pled guilty to two counts of wire 
fraud and three counts of engaging in monetary 
transactions in criminally derived property.  
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The defendant submitted five fraudulent 
paycheck protection program loan applications for 
assistance authorized by the CARES Act in response to the 
COVID-19 pandemic.  Two of those loans were funded and the 
defendant received $1,689,952 in ill-gotten loan proceeds.  
He used those loan proceeds in a manner that is 
unpermissible (sic) under the CARES Act and made 
outlandish purchases, including buying a 2020 F-350 pickup 
truck, a Rolex valued at more than $9,000, a 2019 
Lamborghini worth more than $200,000 and other 
expenditures including going to strip clubs, eating out 
and unfortunately paying off the mortgage on his mother's 
home.  
The defendant has an extensive criminal 
history, beginning at age 16, which has continued 
uninterrupted absent periods of incarceration.  His 
criminal history is varied and includes convictions for 
disorderly conduct, involving discharging a firearm; use 
of counterfeit money; theft; delivery of marijuana; 
robbery, involving the display of a handgun; driving while 
intoxicated; fraudulent use; possession of identification.  
Numerous other charges were dismissed in 
light of convictions entered in other cases.  Twenty-seven 
arrests and/or convictions in all.  The defendant was 
subject to a term of deferred adjudication, community 
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supervision at the time of this offense.  
He was also pending trial in six cases and 
had been released on bond in each of those cases.  The 
defendant's history -- criminal history and conduct in the 
instant offense paints a picture of an opportunistic 
offender, who is guilty of greed and has been undeterred 
by repeated interactions with the criminal justice system.  
The guidelines appropriately contemplate a 
significant term of imprisonment, even while accounting 
for exploitation of a program designed to help businesses 
in a country struggling with an unprecedented loss due to 
the COVID-19 pandemic.  
A term of imprisonment of 110 months is 
something that the Court believes reflects the purposes of 
the sentence as set forth in 18 United States Code Section 
3553.  It reflects the seriousness of the offense.  It 
will promote respect for the law.  It will provide just 
punishment.  It will deter this defendant and others from 
engaging in the same sort of criminal conduct.  It will 
protect the public from further crimes of this defendant.  
Upon release from imprisonment, the 
defendant shall be placed on supervised release for a term 
of three years as to each of Counts 1 through 5.  All such 
terms to run concurrently.  
Three-year term of supervised release is 
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imposed in this case to monitor the defendant, as he is 
reintegrated in the community to assure that he pays the 
restitution owed, and that three-year term is to each of 
Counts 1 through 5 to run concurrently.  
Within 72 hours of release from the 
custody of the Bureau of Prisons, the defendant shall 
report in person to the probation office in the district 
to which the defendant is released.  
While on supervised release, the defendant 
shall not commit another federal, state or local crime; 
shall comply with the standard conditions that have been 
adopted by this Court; and any mandatory conditions 
required by law including the following:  
You must participate in an outpatient 
substance abuse treatment program and follow the rules and 
regulations of that program.  The probation officer will 
supervise your participation in that program, including 
the provider, location, modality, duration and intensity.  
You must pay the cost of the program, if financially able 
to do so.  
You must not possess any controlled 
substance without a valid prescription.  If you do have a 
valid prescription, you must follow the instructions.  You 
must submit to substance abuse testing to determine if you 
have used a prohibited substance.  You may not attempt to 
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obstruct or tamper with the testing methods.  
You may not use or possess alcohol.  
You must make restitution to the victims 
totaling $1,689,952 to the following:  Harvest Bank, 
$752,452; and the Small Business Administration, $937,500 
for the loan that you received through the Radius Bank.  
You must provide the probation officer 
with any requested access to any requested financial 
information and authorized release of that financial 
information, and the probation office may share that 
information with the U.S. Attorney's Office.  
The defendant is also ordered not to incur 
any new credit charges or open additional lines of credit 
without approval of the probation officer.  
The defendant shall pay to the United 
States a special assessment of $500 due and payable 
immediately.  The Court finds that the defendant does not 
have the ability to pay a fine within the guideline range 
in addition to the restitution that is owed.  The fine is 
waived.  
The criminal monetary penalties imposed 
are due as follows:  The defendant shall begin payment 
immediately.  Any unpaid balance due in the greater of $25 
per quarter or 50 percent of any wages earned while in 
prison in accordance with the Bureau of Prisons Inmate 
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Financial Responsibility Program.  Any balance remaining 
after release from imprisonment shall be due in monthly 
installments no less than $250 per month to commence 30 
days after release from imprisonment to a term of 
supervised release.  Payment is to be made through the 
United States District Clerk's Office Southern District of 
Texas. 
Mr. Grisier, any reason why the sentence 
should not be imposed?  
MR. GRISIER:  No.  I have two points of 
clarification to raise possibly.  The first is about the 
restitution.  I want to clarify the victims were Harvest 
Small Business Finance and the Small Business 
Administration.  Radius Bank slash also known as -- 
THE COURT:  I said Small Business 
Administration for the loan that was originally received 
from Radius Bank.  I said "Small Business Administration."
MR. GRISIER:  Perfect.  Thank you.  The 
only other point the government would raise is with regard 
to any forfeiture -- 
THE COURT:  I'm not there yet.  I'm on the 
sentence.  
Any reason why sentence should not -- 
MR. GRISIER:  No, I do not. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Berg?  
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MR. BERG:  No, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  The sentence is imposed as 
stated.  
Mr. Price, you can appeal your conviction 
if you believe that your guilty plea was somehow unlawful 
or involuntary or if you think that there was some other 
financial defect in the proceedings that was not waived by 
you.  
With few exceptions, any notice of appeal 
must be filed within 15 days of the date that judgment is 
entered in this case.  If you are without funds to hire an 
attorney to represent you, you can apply to the Court for 
in forma pauperis status and counsel will be appointed for 
you.  
Do you understand me?  
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  All right.  Now, Mr. Grisier, 
we can talk about the forfeiture.  The sentence first.  
Always trying to make me forget to impose the sentence by 
talking about other stuff.  
MR. GRISIER:  I apologize. 
THE COURT:  I have a motion for 
preliminary order of forfeiture.  Was this unopposed, 
Mr. Berg?  
MR. BERG:  That's correct.  
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THE COURT:  I had one question on this.  
Mr. Grisier, were the funds that were 
already referenced in the notice to the Court regarding 
forfeiture, are those already applied to the restitution?  
MR. GRISIER:  Not to the restitution.  But 
to the -- they should be, Your Honor.  We have the -- 
there is a process for doing that through -- we ask the 
agencies who have seized and forfeited those funds.  I 
believe it's called remission, where they can accept 
petitions.  And actually since we'll have a restitution 
order in this case, we should be able to get those funds 
back to SBA and Harvest as they come in. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  So that is the plan 
then.  Those funds will go to pay off restitution to these 
victims?  
MR. GRISIER:  Exactly.  My understanding 
is they're waiting on the order to come down after the 
sentencing. 
THE COURT:  From the Court?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Seems like there was a lot of 
cash still left that could go to some of the victims for 
the restitution payments; correct?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  That will happen?  
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MR. GRISIER:  That will happen.  And I 
believe the vehicles and the Rolex watch have not been 
auctioned off or sold at this point by the Postal 
Inspection Service.  Once those assets have been 
liquidated, those funds will be credited -- 
THE COURT:  To the victims?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  I gotcha.  Wanted to make sure 
I understood.  
It hasn't happened yet because we need the 
order in place first. 
MR. GRISIER:  That is my understanding.  
THE COURT:  Somebody will get a 
Lamborghini for cheap, huh? 
MR. GRISIER:  Indeed, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Oh, my goodness.  
I wanted to make sure that I understood 
language I was concerned about, and I wanted to ask you if 
this was the way that the language needed to be stated.  
It says:  The real property at 10718 
Staghill Drive is forfeited to the United States.  
And then it says:  Pursuant to -- then it 
says:  Limited to a lien against the property in the 
amount of $50,000.  
So why does it say that it's forfeited as 
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opposed to just, there is a lien against the property in 
favor of the United States in the amount of $50,000?  
What's with that language?  
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limitation would be sufficient to cover that concern.  It 
was a concern of ours as well.  In drawing up the 
financial order of forfeiture, we can amend that to make 
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THE COURT:  I don't really want the words 
"forfeited" to be in here.  I don't feel comfortable 
signing an order saying his mother's property that she 
lived and paid a note on for 20 years is being forfeited 
to the United States.  
Why can't we say that the real property is 
subject to a lien against the property in the amount of 
$50,000?  
MR. GRISIER:  No reason we can't. 
THE COURT:  That is what I'm going to do.  
I don't feel like writing this word that her property is 
forfeited to the United States.  
The real property at Staghill Drive I'm 
going to put is "encumbered" instead of "forfeited."  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  To the United States, limited 
to a lien against the property in the amount of $50,000.  
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of the purpose of -- I think there is an ancillary hearing 
on that where Ms. Price will be given notice to appear at 
that hearing if she wishes to contest it and make 
representations that she has.  
As far as her ability to pay, I'm not sure 
what that is.  It may also be satisfied at such a time 
that the house is sold I believe.  It essentially operates 
as a lien against the house.  
THE COURT:  I know.  But I'm assuming that 
the house she lived in for 20 years she didn't have any 
immediate plans to put it on the market.  
MR. GRISIER:  I would assume not as well.  
At such a time in the future, that may be possible. 
THE COURT:  All right.  We have to set -- 
you want to set a hearing on the final forfeiture?  
MR. GRISIER:  We'll give notice -- 
THE COURT:  Because of her situation?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes, Your Honor.  I think 
that is covered in Rule 35.  
THE COURT:  She'll have an opportunity to 
speak at that point?  
MR. GRISIER:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Anything else?  
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MR. BERG:  No.  We had agreed to a lien.  
So that is correct.  
THE COURT:  All right.  It says that the 
home is "encumbered."  It's not going to say it's 
forfeited.  I don't like that.  
All right.  Anything else from the United 
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MR. GRISIER:  No, Your Honor.  Thank you.  
THE COURT:  Mr. Berg?  
MR. BERG:  My client would request 
designation to Bastrop. 
THE DEFENDANT:  Yes.  
THE COURT:  It's the further 
recommendation of this Court that the defendant be 
incarcerated at Federal Bureau of Prisons Bastrop if that 
is available and appropriate.  
Anything else?  
MR. BERG:  No, Your Honor.  
(Proceedings concluded.)
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C E R T I F I C A T E 
I hereby certify that pursuant to Title 28, Section 753 
United States Code, the foregoing is a true and correct 
transcript of the stenographically reported proceedings in 
the above matter.
 Certified on January 12, 2022.
 /s/ Nichole Forrest____________            
           Nichole Forrest, RDR, CRR, CRC 
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