Pandemic Darlings The pandemic economy, in original documents
Home Court filings In re: Bank of America California Unemployment Benefits Litigation — S.D. Cal., No. 21-md-02992 Memo of Points and Authorities — Bofa Ca Unemployment (Dkt. 503.1)

Court filing

Memo of Points and Authorities — Bofa Ca Unemployment (Dkt. 503.1)

Summary

Bank of America, N.A.'s memorandum of points and authorities in support of its motion to reconsider the May 29, 2025 order granting in part and denying in part its motion for protective order, filed 06/26/25 as Document 503-1 in In re Bank of America California Unemployment Benefits Litigation, Case No. 21-MD-02992-GPC-MSB, with a September 19, 2025 hearing date. The bank argues the order improperly placed the burden on it, improperly required it to show prejudice, misapplied the apex doctrine, and misinterpreted or ignored key facts and testimony. In the alternative, it asks the court to certify the order for interlocutory appeal under Section 1292(b) and to stay the depositions pending appellate review. Advocacy document; claims are Bank of America's.

Summary drafted by a model from the document's text below and checked by script against that text before publication. It is a navigation aid, not a reading of what the document proves. Where AI is used

Record facts

CourtU.S. District Court for the Southern District of California
Filed2025-09-19

Cite this document

“Memo of Points and Authorities — Bofa Ca Unemployment (Dkt. 503.1).” U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, No. 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB, Doc. 503-1, filed 2025-09-19. Archived at Pandemic Darlings, https://pandemicdarlings.com/court-filings/full-docket-bofa-ca-unemployment-casd-709615/2025-09-19-gov-uscourts-casd-709615-503-1-gov-uscourts-casd-709615-503-1/, SHA-256 309744f88e1306f7eaf5d03aae6823bcad7ffd6fe798ae564490a8f906ec5b5e.

Search CourtListener for this docket number

Full text

MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
JAMES W. MCGARRY (pro hac vice) 
JMcGarry@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
100 Northern Avenue 
Boston, MA  02210 
Tel.: +1 617 570 1000 
Fax: +1 617 523 1231 
 
SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH (pro hac vice) 
SRoseSmith@goodwinlaw.com 
MATTHEW L. RIFFEE (pro hac vice) 
MRiffee@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
1900 N Street, NW 
Washington, DC 20036 
Tel.: +1 202 346 4000 
Fax: +1 202 346 4444 
Attorneys for Defendant  
BANK OF AMERICA, N.A. 
 
[ADDITIONAL COUNSEL LISTED IN SIGNATURE BLOCK] 
 
FILED PROVISIONALLY 
UNDER SEAL PURSUANT TO 
STIPULATED PROTECTIVE 
ORDER 
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA 
SAN DIEGO DIVISION 
IN RE: BANK OF AMERICA 
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT 
BENEFITS LITIGATION 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Case No. 21-MD-02992-GPC-MSB 
DEFENDANT BANK OF 
AMERICA, N.A.’S 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS 
AND AUTHORITIES IN 
SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT’S 
MOTION TO RECONSIDER MAY 
29, 2025 ORDER GRANTING IN 
PART AND DENYING IN PART 
DEFENDANT’S MOTION FOR 
PROTECTIVE ORDER 
 
Ctrm:   
12A – 12th Floor  
Judge:  
Hon. Gonzalo P. Curiel 
Date: 
September 19, 2025 
Time: 
1:30 P.M. 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29312 
Page 1 of 26

 
i 
 MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
TABLE OF CONTENTS 
RELEVANT BACKGROUND .................................................................................. 1 
ARGUMENT .............................................................................................................. 3 
I. The Court Should Reconsider the Order Because It Includes Multiple Clear 
Legal Errors. ............................................................................................................ 3 
A. 
The Order improperly placed the burden on BANA to show why the 
depositions should not go forward. ...................................................................... 3 
B. 
The Order improperly required BANA to demonstrate prejudice. ............. 5 
C. 
The Order’s interpretation and application of the apex doctrine was 
erroneous. ............................................................................................................. 6 
II. 
The Court Should Reconsider the Order Because It Misinterpreted and/or 
Ignored Key Relevant Facts and Testimony. .......................................................... 9 
III. 
In the Alternative, If the Court Denies BANA’s Motion, It Should Certify 
the Order for Interlocutory Appeal Under Section 1292(b). ................................. 14 
A. 
The Order involves controlling questions of law on the standard for an 
apex deposition and courts are divided on those questions. .............................. 15 
B. 
An immediate appeal of the Order may materially advance the ultimate 
termination of this litigation. .............................................................................. 17 
IV. 
The Court Should Stay the Depositions Pending Resolution of This Motion 
and BANA’s Efforts to Seek Appellate Review, If Permitted. ............................. 18 
CONCLUSION ......................................................................................................... 19 
 
 
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29313 
Page 2 of 26

 
ii 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
TABLE OF AUTHORITIES 
 
Page(s) 
Cases 
Affinity Labs. of Texas v. Apple, Inc., 
2011 WL 1753982 (N.D. Cal. May 9, 2011) ....................................................... 6 
Anderson v. Air W., Inc., 
542 F.2d 1090 (9th Cir. 1976) ........................................................................ 7, 16 
Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., 
282 F.R.D. 259 (N.D. Cal. 2012) ......................................................................... 5 
Blankenship v. Hearst Corp., 
519 F.2d 418 (9th Cir. 1975) ...................................................................... 4, 7, 16 
Canchola v. Allstate Ins. Co., 
2025 WL 1377817 (C.D. Cal. Apr. 17, 2025) .................................................... 18 
Cannavan v. Cnty. of Ventura, 
2021 WL 4945186 (C.D. Cal. July 16, 2021) ...................................................... 5 
Celerity, Inc. v. Ultra Clean Holding, Inc., 
2007 WL 205067 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 25, 2007) ........................................................ 5 
In re F.D.I.C., 
58 F.3d 1055 (5th Cir. 1995) .............................................................................. 18 
Forrest v. Facebook, Inc., 
2023 WL 1931356 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 18, 2023) .................................................... 18 
Gen. Star. Indem. Co. v. Platinum Indem. Co., 
210 F.R.D. 80 (S.D.N.Y. 2002) .......................................................................... 12 
In re Google Litig., 
2011 WL 4985279 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 19, 2011) ............................................ 6, 7, 14 
Greer v. Cnty. of San Diego, 
2022 WL 2134601 (S.D. Cal. June 14, 2022) .................................................. 3, 5 
Jones v. PGA Tour, Inc., 
2023 WL 2541326 (N.D. Cal. Mar. 15, 2023) ................................................... 18 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29314 
Page 3 of 26

 
iii 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
Kendrick v. Carter Bank & Tr., Inc., 
2025 WL 879703 (4th Cir. Mar. 21, 2025) (unpublished) ................................. 16 
Kona Enters, Inc. v. Estate of Bishop, 
229 F.3d 877 (9th Cir. 2000) ................................................................................ 3 
Mansourian v. Board of Regents of University of California at Davis, 
2007 WL 4557104 (E.D. Cal. Dec. 21, 2007) ...................................................... 4 
Marsh v. Cnty. of San Diego, 
2008 WL 11411591 (S.D. Cal. Sept. 23, 2008) ................................................... 3 
Mohawk Indus. v. Carpenter, 
558 U.S. 100 (2009) ..................................................................................... 15, 18 
Myles v. Cnty. of San Diego, 
2016 WL 4366543 (S.D. Cal. Aug. 15, 2016) ..................................................... 3 
In re Nat’l W. Life Ins. Deferred Annuities Litigation, 
2011 WL 1304587 (S.D. Cal. Apr. 6, 2011) ........................................................ 4 
In re Off. of the Utah Att’y Gen., 
56 F.4th 1254 (10th Cir. 2022) ........................................................................... 18 
In re Paxton, 
60 F.4th 252 (5th Cir. 2023) ........................................................................... 6, 17 
Schmitz v. Asman, 
2023 WL 3224474 (E.D. Cal. May 3, 2023) ...................................................... 19 
Serrano v. Cintas Corp., 
699 F.3d 884 (6th Cir. 2012) .............................................................................. 17 
Skillz Platform Inc. v. AviaGames Inc., 
2023 WL 7283886 (N.D. Cal. Nov. 2, 2023) ..................................................... 18 
Thomas v. Cate, 
2010 WL 13434789 (E.D. Cal. Apr. 5, 2010) ...................................................... 3 
In re U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 
25 F.4th 692 (9th Cir. 2022) ............................................................................... 18 
Wood v. McEwen, 
644 F.2d 797 (9th Cir. 1981) .............................................................................. 19 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29315 
Page 4 of 26

 
iv 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
Statutes 
28 U.S.C. § 1292(b) ........................................................................................... 14, 15 
Other Authorities 
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26(c) ........................................................... 5, 16, 17 
 
 
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29316 
Page 5 of 26

 
1 
 MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
Bank of America, N.A. (“BANA”) respectfully moves for reconsideration of 
the Court’s May 29, 2025 Order Granting in Part and Denying in Part Defendant’s 
Motion for Protective Order, filed under seal at Dkt. 487 (the “Order”). The Court 
should reconsider the Order because it includes multiple clear errors, both legal and 
factual. The legal errors include improper shifting of the burden to BANA, 
imposition of the erroneous requirement that BANA show prejudice to the apex 
deponents, and an erroneous analysis and application of the apex doctrine’s two 
prongs. See Section I. The factual errors allowed the Court wrongly to conclude that 
Mr. Moynihan and Mr. Montag “likely” or “may” have “unique first-hand, non-
repetitive knowledge” regarding Plaintiffs’ claim for punitive damages when that 
inference cannot reasonably be drawn from the evidence presented. See Section II. 
BANA respectfully believes that each and all of these errors merit reconsideration, 
and that accounting for these errors would result in the denial of Plaintiffs’ request 
for depositions of BANA’s top two executives. 
Additionally, and in the alternative, if the Court were to deny BANA’s motion 
for reconsideration, BANA respectfully requests that the Court certify the Order for 
an interlocutory appeal. An interlocutory appeal would be merited because BANA 
has identified issues related to controlling law pertaining to the burdens, requisite 
showing, and general applicability of the apex doctrine in this Circuit. Further, an 
appeal would allow the Ninth Circuit to potentially state and clarify its position on 
the apex doctrine, which this Court acknowledged has not been definitively stated. 
See Section III.  
RELEVANT BACKGROUND 
On October 11, 2024, Plaintiffs served notices of deposition for Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag. Dkt. 454 (“Riffee Decl.”) ¶ 14. BANA objected to the 
depositions, in part, because they were prohibited by the apex doctrine. Id. Plaintiffs 
notified Magistrate Judge Berg of the dispute on December 5, 2024, and Judge Berg 
ordered simultaneous informal briefing on the issue. Id. ¶ 23. On December 23, 2024, 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29317 
Page 6 of 26

 
2 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
Judge Berg issued a tentative ruling precluding Plaintiffs from taking Messrs. 
Moynihan’s and Montag’s depositions because they had not exhausted efforts to take 
discovery through less burdensome means. Id. ¶ 25. After taking additional 
depositions, Plaintiffs again brought the issue before Judge Berg, and Judge Berg 
ordered a second round of informal simultaneous briefing. Id. ¶ 28. Following the 
informal discovery conference, Judge Berg granted Plaintiffs limited depositions on 
March 12, 2025, which would have permitted Plaintiffs to take a two-hour deposition 
of Mr. Moynihan and a one-hour deposition of Mr. Montag. Id. ¶ 30. Plaintiffs 
unilaterally rejected the tentative ruling, bringing the issue to this Court. Id. ¶ 31.  
To prevent the imminent abuse and harassment of its top two executives, 
BANA agreed to a briefing schedule whereby it would move for a protective order 
precluding the depositions of Messrs. Moynihan and Montag. The motion was fully 
briefed by May 2, 2025. See Dkt. 471 (“Reply”). On May 29, 2025, the Court issued 
the Order Granting in Part and Denying in Part BANA’s motion, finding that: (1) 
BANA had the burden to show that the depositions should not go forward, Order at 
7-8; (2) BANA had a threshold obligation to demonstrate prejudice to Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag from allowing the depositions, id. at 8-9; (3) there was no 
dispute as to the apex doctrine’s “exhaustion” requirement, id. at 9 n.4; and (4) 
Messrs. Moynihan and Montag likely had unique, non-repetitive information 
regarding Plaintiffs’ claims for punitive damages, id. at 14, 16, 18. In so finding, the 
Order relied on the Court’s prior determination, based on its interpretation of 
California’s punitive damages statute (which is relevant only to Plaintiffs’ common 
law claims, which are dubious at best), that information about “the motive, intent or 
knowledge 
to 
support 
punitive 
damages 
concerning 
the 
development, 
implementation, and authorization of the CFF can only be obtained by [Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag] and not from sources already designated.” Id. at 3 (citing 
Dkt. 298 at 11).  
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29318 
Page 7 of 26

 
3 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
ARGUMENT 
A motion for reconsideration can be granted where an order demonstrates that 
“the district court . . . committed clear error . . . .” Kona Enters, Inc. v. Estate of 
Bishop, 229 F.3d 877, 890 (9th Cir. 2000). While a motion for reconsideration is “not 
a way to reargue a previous position,” it provides an opportunity for the district court 
to revisit a prior decision that either applied the wrong legal standard or applied the 
correct legal standard inconsistently or erroneously to the facts of the case. Marsh v. 
Cnty. of San Diego, 2008 WL 11411591, at *1 (S.D. Cal. Sept. 23, 2008). 
I. 
The Court Should Reconsider the Order Because It Includes Multiple 
Clear Legal Errors. 
A. The Order improperly placed the burden on BANA to show why the 
depositions should not go forward. 
The Order placed the burden on BANA to show why the depositions should 
not go forward solely because BANA had filed the specific motion before the Court. 
See Order at 7. But, as the cases cited by BANA show, once the party resisting the 
deposition shows that the deponent is a high-level executive subject to the apex 
doctrine, the burden is on the party seeking the deposition to show that the apex 
doctrine’s requirements are satisfied. See Dkt. 452 (“Mot.”) at 8-9 (citing Greer v. 
Cnty. of San Diego, 2022 WL 2134601 (S.D. Cal. June 14, 2022); Ramirez v. 
Zimmerman, 2019 WL 2106594 (S.D. Cal. May 14, 2019)). Other cases from this 
Circuit confirm that the burden shifts to the seeking party once it is plain that the 
target deponent is “entitled to invoke the privilege” by being “sufficiently high-
ranking to merit protection.” See, e.g., Myles v. Cnty. of San Diego, 2016 WL 
4366543, at *3 (S.D. Cal. Aug. 15, 2016); Thomas v. Cate, 2010 WL 1343789, at *1 
(E.D. Cal. Apr. 5, 2010). Moreover, as explained, at 1-2, it was Plaintiffs that first 
sought Court intervention on the apex issue, including at the first two IDCs before 
Judge Berg (where the issue was simultaneously briefed), and then through the joint 
status report before the Court. Further, the Order’s assignment of burden would have 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29319 
Page 8 of 26

 
4 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
the unintended effects of penalizing a party for seeking a protective order and 
incentivizing litigants to force the other party to move to compel.  
To the extent the Order relies on cases that articulate a different burden, those 
cases are outliers that demonstrate the disagreement and confusion among district 
courts in the Ninth Circuit on this issue. For example, the Order cites a footnote in In 
re Nat’l W. Life Ins. Deferred Annuities Litigation, 2011 WL 1304587, at *4 n.2 (S.D. 
Cal. Apr. 6, 2011), for the proposition that BANA should bear the burden. Order at 
8. But the court in that case ordered the requested depositions only upon a “find[ing] 
that Plaintiffs have made a sufficient showing to establish their need to depose [the 
executives].” In re Nat’l W. Life, 2011 WL 1304587, at *4 (emphasis added). And in 
Mansourian v. Board of Regents of University of California at Davis, the court 
acknowledged “the burden-shifting approach applied by some courts,” including that 
“it may indeed be appropriate where a party truly seeks to depose” an apex witness 
“for no purpose other than harassment,” even as it reached the opposite result. 2007 
WL 4557104, at *3, n.2 (E.D. Cal. Dec. 21, 2007).1 
As the Order acknowledges, there is “no[] dispute that Mr. Moynihan . . . and Mr. 
Montag . . . are high-level executives subject to the apex deposition doctrine.” Order 
at 7. Therefore, the Order improperly shifted the burden to BANA.  
 
1 The Order’s reliance on Blankenship v. Hearst Corp., 519 F.2d 418 (9th Cir. 1975) 
is misplaced. See Order at 8. In that case, the Ninth Circuit’s discussion of the legal 
standard for deposing high-level executives was high-level and brief, and it should 
not be read as a definitive statement on the burden of proof. Blankenship, 519 F. 2d  
at 429. Moreover, the defendant in Blankenship only argued that the executive 
deposition would be duplicative of other discovery, and plaintiffs countered with 
information that he might have that others did not. Id. (“Defendants’ sole objection 
to the deposition is that what George Hearst had to offer would be repetitious with 
what plaintiff had learned from other sources.”). Here, BANA argued that Mr. 
Moynihan has no relevant knowledge, and in any event, Plaintiffs have not 
established that either Mr. Moynihan or Mr. Montag actually have unique and 
relevant knowledge that others do not. See Mot. at 11-19 (Mr. Moynihan), 19-22 (Mr. 
Montag); Reply at 2-7 (Mr. Moynihan), 7-10 (Mr. Montag). 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29320 
Page 9 of 26

 
5 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
B. The Order improperly required BANA to demonstrate prejudice. 
The Order also contained clear error because it improperly relied on general 
(i.e., non-apex) Rule 26(c) caselaw to penalize BANA for not articulating any 
“specific prejudice or harm” from the potential depositions. See Order at 9. As a 
threshold matter, the prejudice to BANA and the executive witnesses is self-evident 
for all the reasons explained in BANA’s briefing. See Mot. at 9-24; Reply at 2-10. 
High-ranking executives are incredibly busy and litigants often seek their depositions 
for abusive purposes or to try to force settlement. See Apple Inc. v. Samsung 
Electronics Co., Ltd., 282 F.R.D. 259, 263 (N.D. Cal. 2012) (depositions of high-
level executives “create[] a tremendous potential for abuse or harassment”); Celerity, 
Inc. v. Ultra Clean Holding, Inc., 2007 WL 205067, at *3 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 25, 2007) 
(same); Cannavan v. Cnty. of Ventura, 2021 WL 4945186, at *6 (C.D. Cal. July 16, 
2021) (same). Indeed, Plaintiffs’ counsel candidly told Judge Berg long ago that such 
was their precise litigation strategy here. Mot. at 2; Dkt. 209-1 ¶ 10 (top executive 
emails “settle cases”).  
Requiring an additional showing of prejudice would lead to further abuse and 
burden, and render the apex doctrine a nullity—effectively treating an apex witness 
like any other witness. But the apex doctrine exists precisely to protect high-ranking 
executives and officials from the aggregate burden associated with constant 
litigation-related demands on their time, and the “‘potential for abuse or harassment’ 
inherent in such a deposition.” Greer v. Cnty. of San Diego, 2022 WL 2134601, at 
*1 (emphasis added). That is precisely why district courts in this circuit have held 
that the apex doctrine does not require a showing of prejudice or harm once the party 
resisting the deposition establishes that the deponent is a sufficiently high-ranking 
executive to be subject to the apex doctrine’s protections.2 See Mot. at 8 (citing In re 
 
2 While the Ninth Circuit has not weighed in on the prejudice issue yet, at least one 
Court of Appeals has adopted the presumptive view that an apex deposition will 
interfere with a high-ranking official’s duty, even absent a specific showing of harm. 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29321 
Page 10 of 26

 
6 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
Google Litig., 2011 WL 4985279, at *2 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 19, 2011) (the resisting party 
need only establish that the apex executive is sufficiently senior to warrant protection 
before shifting the burden to the seeking party to demonstrate that the two prongs of 
the apex doctrine are satisfied)); see also Affinity Labs. of Texas v. Apple, Inc., 2011 
WL 1753982, at *17 (N.D. Cal. May 9, 2011) (denying apex deposition because 
plaintiff “fail[ed] to show that Steve Jobs has unique and personal knowledge of facts 
relevant to this litigation, which cannot be obtained through less intrusive 
discovery”). Requiring an additional showing could subject apex witnesses to serial 
harassment due to the difficulty of establishing burden in any one case, even where 
the cumulative impact and threats are significant.  
Therefore, the Order improperly required BANA to demonstrate prejudice to 
preclude the depositions. 
C. The Order’s interpretation and application of the apex doctrine was 
erroneous.  
The apex doctrine requires the party seeking to depose a high-level executive 
to show that (1) the deponent “has unique first-hand, non-repetitive knowledge of the 
facts at issue in the case,” and (2) the party has “exhausted other less intrusive 
discovery methods.” See Mot. at 8 (quoting In re Google Litig., 2011 WL 4985279, 
at *2). The Order’s interpretation and application of the doctrine is clearly erroneous.  
 
See In re Paxton, 60 F.4th 252, 258 (5th Cir. 2023). According to the Fifth Circuit, 
“[b]efore requiring such ‘apex’ testimony, courts must consider: (1) the deponent’s 
high-ranking status; (2) the substantive reasons for the deposition; and (3) the 
potential burden the deposition would impose on the deponent.” Id. at 258. Harm is 
one of the factors in this analysis, but it is ultimately an abuse of discretion for the 
district court to “compel[] apex testimony absent extraordinary circumstances.” Id. 
And in situations where the information at issue can be obtained from other sources, 
“apex testimony is justified only in the ‘rarest of cases.’” Id. Under this analysis, the 
target deponent does not need to make a separate showing of harm (beyond what is 
already presumed based on his or her position) so long as the information at issue 
could be obtained from another source. See id. 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29322 
Page 11 of 26

 
7 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
With respect to prong (1), the Order invoked the correct standard (at 6), but 
nonetheless applied it inconsistently and placed either too low a burden on Plaintiffs 
to show or too high a burden on BANA to refute that BANA’s top two executives 
possessed the requisite knowledge. First, the Order stated—relying on the Ninth 
Circuit’s decision in Blankenship—that “[a]s long as the apex executive has some 
first-hand knowledge of relevant facts, the deposition should be allowed.” Order at 
11 (citing Blankenship, 519 F.2d at 429). That is a far more permissive standard that 
would have the effect of gutting the apex doctrine entirely, and Blankenship does not 
support it. Compare In re Google Litig., 2011 WL 4985279, at *2 (apex prong (1) 
requires that deponent “has unique first-hand, non-repetitive knowledge”). 
Blankenship included very little reasoning on the apex issue, but the Ninth Circuit 
nonetheless found that the plaintiff there argued that George Hearst “might have” had 
“possible information . . . that others did not,” 519 F.2d at 429, suggesting that the 
purported knowledge of the executive deponent must be unique (i.e., “some” 
knowledge is not enough).  
Second, the Order cites the Ninth Circuit’s decision in Anderson for the 
proposition that “some knowledge” might be enough to justify an apex deposition. 
Order at 7 (quoting Anderson v. Air W., Inc., 542 F.2d 1090, 1093 (9th Cir. 1976)). 
But the Ninth Circuit’s decision in Anderson is not instructive because it did not 
include any assessment of the apex doctrine or the record in that case because the 
appellants did not challenge the district court’s denial of a protective order. Anderson, 
542 F.2d at 1093. 
With respect to prong (2), the Order erroneously concluded that the parties “do 
not dispute” exhaustion, and therefore the Order did not address this factor. Order at 
9 n.4. BANA’s briefing made clear that, despite taking certain additional depositions 
ordered by Judge Berg, Plaintiffs did not use the less intrusive means at their disposal.  
See, e.g., Mot. at 12-15, 22-23; Reply at 1, 3-5.  
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29323 
Page 12 of 26

 
8 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
First, Plaintiffs made no effort to take several potentially important 
depositions. For example, Plaintiffs never sought to depose Cathy Bessant, the 
executive 
 
 See Reply at 3; see also Dkt. 471 (“Hoyle Decl.”) ¶ 13. Plaintiffs also never 
sought to depose any of the other members of the MTM, including the MTM 
members who 
 
See Reply at 4; Hoyle Decl. ¶¶ 4-6, 13. Nor did Plaintiffs make any effort to depose 
Jose Firpi, even though 
 
 
 See Mot. at 14; Reply at 5; see also Riffee Decl. ¶ 22.  
Second, at the depositions they did take, Plaintiffs elected not to ask about 
many of the documents they now rely on, and generally avoided asking questions 
that would expose their theory about executive involvement as unfounded. For 
example, they did not ask Renee Johnson any questions about 
 
 that the Order (at 13) heavily relied on and identified as 
 
 See Mot. at 15.3 The same is true for 
many of the other documents Plaintiffs now rely upon. See, e.g., Mot. at 11, 12, 13, 
15, 16, 21; see also Riffee Decl. ¶¶ 9-31.  
Based on this record, BANA plainly challenged Plaintiffs’ failure to seek 
information from lower level BANA employees. See, e.g., Mot. at 11-16, 21-23; 
Reply at 1, 3-5. The Order’s determination to the contrary, and resulting lack of 
analysis of prong (2) of the apex doctrine, also constitutes clear error. 
 
3 The other chat participant’s testimony also did not support the Court’s finding that 
the CFF was approved by Mr. Moynihan. Mr. Garfield testified that 
 
 
and that 
 
Mot. at 15 (citing Dkt. 452-11, Riffee Decl. Ex. 10, 
Garfield Tr. 36:4–19, 228:6–231:16).  
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29324 
Page 13 of 26

 
9 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
II. 
The Court Should Reconsider the Order Because It Misinterpreted 
and/or Ignored Key Relevant Facts and Testimony. 
Even if the Order ostensibly applied the correct standard for prong (1) of the 
apex doctrine, its conclusion that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag “likely have” or 
“may have” relevant, unique first-hand knowledge based on the limited record 
Plaintiffs put before the Court constitutes clear error. See Order at 11, 17.  
As an instant matter, the Order repeatedly relied on Mr. Moynihan or Mr. 
Montag’s purported discussions or meetings with other BANA employees, so it by 
definition relied on information that is neither unique nor non-repetitive. See, e.g., 
Order at 12 (finding that 
 
 
 id. at 15 (relying on the fact that “
 
 
 id. at 18 (relying on “
 
”). 
Moreover, the Order relied on email records to conclude that “the record 
suggests” that Mr. Moynihan approved the CFF. See Order at 12-14. But the record 
actually does the opposite. Plaintiffs’ own theory is that 
 
 
.4 See Dkt. 464 (“Opp.”) at 12-15 (
 
 Yet Mr. Ahmad himself 
testified 
 
 
4 The Order allows that
 
Order at 15. That of course 
could be true, but Plaintiffs’ own theory was that 
 See 
Opp. at 13 
 
 
 see also Order at 13-14 (citing Dkt. 464-16, 464-62, Danitz 
Exs. 14 & 60). 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29325 
Page 14 of 26

 
10 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
 
. See Mot. 7, 16 and Reply 1-3; see also Dkt. 452-6, Riffee Decl. Ex. 
5, Ahmad Tr. 244:18-22, 93:25-94:20. Thus, Plaintiffs’ theory—and the primary 
basis on which they seek Mr. Moynihan’s deposition—simply cannot be reconciled 
with the factual record.  
Additionally, the Order relied heavily on 
 
 
. See Order 
at 12. Plaintiffs offered no testimony to support the inferences that the Order draws 
from 
. See Mot. at 15. As noted above (at 8), Plaintiffs elected to not even 
ask Ms. Johnson about 
 See id. Mr. Garfield was shown 
 at his 
deposition, and testified that 
 
 
 See Mot. at 15; 
see also Dkt. 452-11, Riffee Decl. Ex. 10, Garfield Tr. 36:4-19, 228:6-231:16. Thus, 
 cannot support Plaintiffs’ claim that 
 
 because it is speculative hearsay, and refuted by 
the record before the Court—particularly Mr. Ahmad’s own testimony. 
Additional specific errors that appear to have impacted the Order’s analysis of 
the factual record include, for example: 
• 
The Order incorrectly stated that 
 
 
 Order at 12.5 There is no 
 
5 This finding appears to be inconsistent with the Court’s conclusion in footnote 12 
of its Order that “[t]here is no evidence about the relationship between Mr. Moynihan 
and the MTM and how decisions were made amongst them and directed to the mid-
level executives.” Order at 14. Even if that were true, that would further show that 
Plaintiffs failed to exhaust efforts to take discovery through less burdensome 
means—e.g., by 
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29326 
Page 15 of 26

 
11 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
evidence to support this statement, notwithstanding the miscited testimony.6 When 
asked whether 
 
 
 
 Dkt. 464-53, Danitz Decl. Ex. 51, Fox Tr. 71:11-20. Mr. Fox did not say 
that only Mr. Moynihan 
 had the authority to provide 
approval, or that 
was required for any particular action (such as the 
implementation of the CFF). And in any event, the record shows
 
 
 See Reply at 3; Dkt. 471-
2, Hoyle Ex. 18. 
• 
The Order further relied on evidence regarding 
 
, and improperly concluded that this evidence 
“suggests” that Mr. Moynihan or his direct reports approved the CFF. See Order at 
12-13. But the Court’s conclusion ignored both that (1) there is no evidence that Mr. 
Moynihan participated in or had any involvement in 
 and (2) BANA put 
forward affirmative evidence indicating that 
. See 
Reply at 4; Hoyle Decl. ¶¶ 4-6 (privilege log entries demonstrate that 
 
 
 
(
) or other executives who interacted with 
 See supra 
at 8. That Plaintiffs failed to obtain such discovery should not entitle them to attempt 
to obtain it from the very top and through the most burdensome means. 
6 In support of this conclusion, the Order purports to cite testimony from Mr. Ahmad. 
Order at 12 (citing “Dkt. No. 468-5, Riffee Decl. Ex. 5, Ahmad Depo. at 70:8-14; 
71:2-23”). However, these pages from Mr. Ahmad’s deposition transcript were not 
included in Riffee Decl. Ex. 5, and Mr. Ahmad never provided such testimony. It 
appears the Court intended to cite the equivalent pages from Mr. Fox’s deposition 
transcript. See Dkt. 464-53, Danitz Decl. Ex. 51, Fox Tr. 70:8-14, 71:2-23.  
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29327 
Page 16 of 26

 
12 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
7 Plaintiffs did not put forth any testimony or records indicating that 
 
 
 Nor could they, because he did not, and BANA demonstrated that 
 
 
. See Reply at 3-4. While the Order acknowledged 
that 
 
 it incorrectly stated that Mr. Ahmad testified that he 
 
 Order at 13. In fact, Mr. 
Ahmad’s testimony was that, while he did not have an independent recollection of 
the subject matter of 
, after having his recollection 
refreshed by the documents, he understood 
 
 
 Reply at 3; Dkt. 471-4, Hoyle Decl. Ex. 20, Ahmad Tr. 195:15-25; see 
also Dkt. 471-2, Hoyle Decl. Ex. 18. 
• 
The Order cites Gen. Star. Indem. Co. v. Platinum Indem. Ltd., 210 
F.R.D. 80 (S.D.N.Y. 2002), for the proposition that a deposition of an apex executive 
is appropriate where the top executive “issues a corporate policy.” Order at 15. This 
reliance is misplaced. There is no evidence that the CFF was a “corporate policy” of 
BANA. Rather the evidence indicates that it was simply a targeted fraud strategy 
designed to prevent a particular type of claims fraud that originated from the prepaid 
business based on investigations and analyses conducted by 
 
 See Mot. at 17. Moreover, 
the Gen. Star case is plainly distinguishable from this one. There, a lower level 
executive testified that an apex witness personally “issued the [company] guidelines” 
 
7 The Order stated that 
 
 (Order at 13), but this is incorrect. In fact, Mr. Fox testified that 
 
. See Dkt. 464-53, Danitz Decl. Ex. 
51, Fox Tr. 55:7-23 
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29328 
Page 17 of 26

 
13 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
—i.e., the “corporate policy” at issue in that case—and there was evidence in the 
record that the apex witnesses personally authored memoranda regarding the 
guidelines. 210 F.R.D. 81, 82. There is no evidence here that either Mr. Moynihan or 
Mr. Montag ever issued or authored a single document regarding the CFF, or that 
they were involved in the creation or development of the fraud strategy. 
• 
Finally, relying on a single email, the Order infers that BANA 
 
 Order at 16. Setting aside 
whether this inference is a reasonable one (it is not—multiple BANA witnesses 
testified that BANA had no such strategy), the evidence that the Order relies on as a 
basis for its conclusion that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag had unique knowledge 
of this purported strategy supports no such conclusion. Plaintiffs offered no evidence 
that Mr. Moynihan or Mr. Montag were aware of 
 or long 
wait times prior to or during the Customer Service Class period, much less that they 
, and neither the Order nor 
Plaintiffs point to any. Rather, the Order cobbles together (1) a single email chain in 
which 
 
 
 
, 
and (3) the fact that waiting time for the call center may have been long when the 
emails were sent to reach the completely unwarranted and clearly erroneous 
conclusion that somehow Mr. Moynihan made a “decision” to extend a vendor 
contract. See Order at 16. Similarly, the Order concludes that Mr. Montag 
 Id. at 17. But the only document the Order relies 
on for this conclusion shows on its face that 
 
 
Mot. at 19-20; Dkt. 464-45, Danitz Decl. Ex. 43. The Order’s reliance on Messrs. 
Moynihan’s or Montag’s presence at Board meetings is also erroneous (Order at 17-
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29329 
Page 18 of 26

 
14 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
18) because the record contains no evidence of 
 
 
These errors, individually and collectively, constitute clear error in the Court’s 
analysis and application of the apex doctrine’s requirement that the executives are 
subject to deposition only if they have “unique firsthand, non-repetitive knowledge 
of the facts at issue in the case,” and its conclusion that Mr. Moynihan and Mr. 
Montag likely do. In re Google, 2011 WL 4985279, at *2. As the record 
demonstrates, Plaintiffs have not established that Mr. Moynihan or Mr. Montag likely 
or may have such knowledge (as they must). Rather, the record refutes that they 
possessed the knowledge that Plaintiffs and the Court’s Order inferred. BANA, 
therefore, respectfully requests that the Court reconsider the findings in its Order and 
hold that Plaintiffs should not be permitted to take the depositions of Mr. Moynihan 
or Mr. Montag. 
Alternatively, if the Court is not inclined to preclude Plaintiffs from taking the 
depositions of both Mr. Moynihan and Mr. Montag (which it should do for the 
reasons discussed above), the Court should at least reconsider its ruling and reduce 
the number of depositions from two to one. The record shows that BANA’s top 
executive, Mr. Moynihan, had no direct oversight or reporting lines, and 
comparatively less knowledge than 
 concerning the two 
relevant issues. And, at a minimum, the Court should reduce the time for each 
deposition by half, allowing no more than two hours for Mr. Moynihan and no more 
than one hour for Mr. Montag, as Judge Berg initially proposed. See Riffee Decl. 
¶ 30. 
III. 
In the Alternative, If the Court Denies BANA’s Motion, It Should 
Certify the Order for Interlocutory Appeal Under Section 1292(b).  
Certification of an order for appeal is appropriate when (1) the order “involves 
a controlling question of law”; (2) there is “substantial ground for difference of 
opinion” on this question; and (3) “an immediate appeal may materially advance the 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29330 
Page 19 of 26

 
15 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
ultimate termination of the litigation.” 28 U.S.C. § 1292(b). Here, all three 
prerequisites are satisfied. Certification will allow the Ninth Circuit to review 
controlling questions of law about the standard required for an apex deposition—
particularly where plaintiffs seek punitive damages under California law. There is a 
substantial debate over those questions among district courts in this Circuit, and 
among other circuits; allowing this appeal would enable the Ninth Circuit to provide 
much-needed guidance to courts and litigants alike. Reversal of the Order’s 
determination on these questions may also advance the termination of this litigation 
to the extent it would allow the parties to focus on the relevant facts and law at issue 
in the case, rather than Plaintiffs’ confessed desire to use executive discovery to push 
settlement. Further, the Supreme Court has recognized that “district courts should not 
hesitate to certify an interlocutory appeal” of a discovery issue where the “ruling 
[below] involves a new legal question or is of special consequence.” Mohawk Indus. 
v. Carpenter, 558 U.S. 100, 111 (2009). This is such a case. 
A. The Order involves controlling questions of law on the standard for 
an apex deposition and courts are divided on those questions. 
As demonstrated above (at 3-8), BANA has identified multiple controlling 
questions of law—including but not limited to (1) which party bears the burden when 
a party seeks an apex deposition; (2) whether an apex deposition requires that the 
apex deponent possess uniquely relevant information; (3) whether seeking punitive 
damages under California law suffices for an apex deposition; and (4) whether the 
party seeking to preclude the deposition must show specific prejudice to the witness.  
At a minimum, as this Court has acknowledged, the Ninth Circuit has not spoken 
directly to or provided clear guidance on the apex doctrine. Certifying these issues, 
and others, would provide the Ninth Circuit with the opportunity to articulate its view 
of the apex doctrine.  
As the Order recognized, “the Ninth Circuit has not yet endorsed the [apex] 
doctrine.” Order at 6. But there is widespread agreement among the district courts of 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29331 
Page 20 of 26

 
16 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
this Circuit that apex depositions require special justification, even as those district 
courts—and other circuits—disagree on some of the relevant particulars of the 
doctrine. For example, district courts in this Circuit are divided among who bears the 
burden on an apex deposition dispute. The majority of courts agree that once the 
resisting party establishes that the witness is sufficiently senior to warrant apex 
protection, the burden shifts to the requesting party to establish that the apex 
doctrine’s two prongs have been satisfied. At the same time, other district courts—
including this Court—use the default burden allocation under Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(c) 
even in the apex context, and place the burden on the moving party. See supra at 3-
4. The most recent articulations from the Ninth Circuit on the issue of executive 
depositions come from Blankenship and Anderson, which were decided in 1975 and 
1976, respectively, and do not articulate any meaningful standard for district courts 
to apply. See supra at 7. The Ninth Circuit should have the opportunity to articulate 
its view on the doctrine, particularly given its interaction with the Order’s 
interpretation of California’s punitive damages statute, and the differing views of 
other Courts of Appeals on the doctrine, as explained below. 
Whether or not a high-level executive is subject to deposition should not 
depend on the jurisdiction where the plaintiff elects to bring suit. But that is exactly 
the current state of the law, with certain courts applying a “rebuttable presumption” 
that the deposition should not be allowed absent a clear showing of necessity, and 
others first requiring the party resisting the deposition to make a specific showing of 
hardship. For example, the Fourth Circuit recently noted that the “‘apex doctrine’ has 
been cited for supporting a ‘rebuttable presumption that the deposition of a high-
ranking corporate executive . . . constitutes good cause for a protective order as an 
annoyance or undue burden within the meaning of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 
26(c)(1).’” Kendrick v. Carter Bank & Tr., Inc., 2025 WL 879703, at *3 n.5 (4th Cir. 
Mar. 21, 2025) (unpublished) (quoting Trs. of Purdue Univ. v. Wolfspeed, Inc., 2023 
WL 4564558, at *4 (M.D.N.C. July 17, 2023)). Similarly, the Fifth Circuit has held 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29332 
Page 21 of 26

 
17 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
that it is an abuse of discretion for a district court to “compel[] apex testimony absent 
extraordinary circumstances,” and that “apex testimony is justified only in the ‘rarest 
of cases.’” In re Paxton, 60 F.4th 252, 258 (5th Cir. 2023). On the other end of the 
spectrum, the Sixth Circuit requires a resistant apex deponent to show “one of the 
harms listed in Rule 26(c)(1)(A) . . . in order to warrant a protective order.” Serrano 
v. Cintas Corp., 699 F.3d 884, 901 (6th Cir. 2012). The Ninth Circuit should be 
afforded the opportunity to weigh in on this issue and provide clear guidance to 
litigants in this Circuit. 
Further, Plaintiffs claim they need deposition testimony from Messrs. 
Moynihan and Montag “to support an award of punitive damages.” Order at 10. 
Plaintiffs’ request is based on the Court’s earlier determination that evidence 
regarding “the motive, intent or knowledge to support punitive damages . . . can only 
be obtained by [the executives],” because of the California statute’s requirement that 
a corporate defendant is liable for punitive damages only where the “oppression, 
fraud, or malice” at issue is “perpetrated, authorized, or knowingly ratified by an 
officer, director, or managing agent of the corporation.” Order at 3,  10 (citing Dkt. 
298 at 11 & Cal. Civ. Code § 3294(b)) (emphasis added). Thus, the Order could allow 
for executive deposition testimony every time a plaintiff seeks punitive damages 
from a corporation. This cannot be the case, and the Ninth Circuit should have the 
opportunity to clarify. 
B. An immediate appeal of the Order may materially advance the 
ultimate termination of this litigation. 
By Plaintiffs’ own acknowledgement, resolution of this dispute could 
materially advance termination of this litigation. As the Court is aware, during an 
informal discovery conference, Plaintiffs’ counsel candidly told Judge Berg that top 
executive emails were necessary because “they resolve cases,” “they settle cases.” 
Mot. at 2 (quoting Dkt. 209-1 ¶ 10). This is all the more true for the apex depositions, 
which Plaintiffs mean to use to push BANA into a settlement of this case. The 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29333 
Page 22 of 26

 
18 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
Supreme Court has held that “district courts should not hesitate to certify” appeals of 
discovery orders of this sort even though the orders are not themselves dispositive. 
See Mohawk, 558 U.S. at 111.   
Indeed, Courts of Appeals have specifically demonstrated the importance of 
appellate review of apex deposition disputes by granting mandamus petitions even 
when district courts have not certified the issues for appeal. See, e.g., In re U.S. Dep’t 
of Educ., 25 F.4th 692, 705 (9th Cir. 2022) (granting mandamus petition, and noting 
that harm from having to sit for the deposition is not remediable on appeal from final 
judgment, even if the evidence is excluded); see also In re F.D.I.C., 58 F.3d 1055, 
1060 (5th Cir. 1995) (granting mandamus petition to relieve apex deposition); In re 
Off. of the Utah Att’y Gen., 56 F.4th 1254, 1264 (10th Cir. 2022) (same).   
IV. 
The Court Should Stay the Depositions Pending Resolution of This 
Motion and BANA’s Efforts to Seek Appellate Review, If Permitted. 
In addition to the relief sought above, BANA respectfully requests that the 
Court stay the depositions pending resolution of this Motion and appellate review of 
this issue, if permitted. BANA would be irreparably prejudiced if the depositions 
proceed before the Order is ultimately reversed or modified, either on reconsideration 
or by the Ninth Circuit. Once the depositions are taken, the prejudice to BANA and 
the executive deponents cannot be undone, and any relief would be moot. See In re 
U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 25 F.4th at 705. There is no recourse, and no way to “unring the 
bell of disclosure” after the fact. Forrest v. Facebook, Inc., 2023 WL 1931356, at *2 
(N.D. Cal. Jan. 18, 2023) (granting stay pending appeal of discovery order to district 
court); Skillz Platform Inc. v. AviaGames Inc., 2023 WL 7283886, at *2 (N.D. Cal. 
Nov. 2, 2023) (same). If these depositions go forward, BANA would be “effectively 
deprived of its ability to seek review of the Discovery Order” and “effectively denied 
the relief sought in [this] motion” or appellate review. Canchola v. Allstate Ins. Co., 
2025 WL 1377817, at *3 (C.D. Cal. Apr. 17, 2025) (staying enforcement of discovery 
order pending appeal to district court); Jones v. PGA Tour, Inc., 2023 WL 2541326, 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29334 
Page 23 of 26

 
19 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
at *2 (N.D. Cal. Mar. 15, 2023) (same).   
Against the plain irreparable prejudice to BANA, Plaintiffs have shown no 
imminent need for this deposition testimony. The depositions, should they take place, 
“shall be limited to punitive damages.” Order at 19. Plaintiffs seek punitive damages 
for common law claims (see Opp. at 1) that are unlikely to survive summary 
judgment, and are ancillary to their primary cause of action, for violation of EFTA, 
for which punitive damages are not available. The issue of punitive damages and any 
deposition testimony Plaintiffs obtain regarding those damages has nothing to do 
with Plaintiffs’ primary claim, and is only potentially relevant if the applicable claims 
survive summary judgment, and if Plaintiffs prove liability, which they have not yet 
done and may never do. It is for this very reason that courts in this Circuit have stayed 
“discovery on issues solely pertaining to punitive damages,” even longer, including 
“pending resolution of dispositive motions.” See Schmitz v. Asman, 2023 WL 
3224474, at *3 (E.D. Cal. May 3, 2023); see also Wood v. McEwen, 644 F.2d 797, 
802 (9th Cir. 1981) (finding a stay an appropriate exercise of discretion absent 
articulation of prejudice by opposing party). The Court should thus exercise its 
discretion and stay enforcement of the Order pending resolution of this Motion or 
appellate review of this issue.  
CONCLUSION 
For the foregoing reasons, and with good cause shown, BANA respectfully 
requests that the Court reconsider its Order Granting In Part and Denying In Part 
Defendant’s Motion for Protective Order, and issue a revised order precluding 
Plaintiffs from taking the depositions of Messrs. Moynihan and Montag. In the 
alternative, if the Court were to deny BANA’s motion for reconsideration, BANA 
respectfully requests that the Court certify its Order for appeal, and stay the 
depositions pending resolution of this Motion and any appellate review thereof.  
Dated:   June 26, 2025 
 
Respectfully submitted, 
 
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29335 
Page 24 of 26

 
20 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
 
By: s/Matthew L. Riffee  
 
  
MATTHEW L. RIFFEE (pro hac vice) 
MRiffee@goodwinlaw.com 
THOMAS M. HEFFERON (pro hac vice) 
THefferon@goodwinlaw.com 
SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH (pro hac vice) 
SRoseSmith@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
1900 N St. NW  
Washington, DC 20036  
Tel: +1 202 346 4000  
Fax: +1 202 346 4444 
 
JAMES W. MCGARRY (pro hac vice) 
JMcGarry@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
100 Northern Avenue 
Boston, MA  02210 
Tel.: +1 617 570 1000 
Fax: +1 617 523 1231 
 
LAURA G. BRYS (SBN 242100) 
LBrys@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
601 S Figueroa St., Suite 4100 
Los Angeles, CA 90017 
Tel.: +1 213 426 2500 
Fax: +1 617 346 4444 
 
VALERIE A. HAGGANS (pro hac vice) 
VHaggans@goodwinlaw.com 
LINDSAY E. HOYLE (pro hac vice) 
LHoyle@goodwinlaw.com 
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP 
620 Eighth Avenue 
New York, NY 10018 
Tel: +1 212 813-8800 
Fax: +1 212 355-3333 
 
YVONNE W. CHAN (pro hac vice) 
YChan@jonesday.com 
JONES DAY 
100 High Street 
Boston, MA  02110 
Tel.: +1 617 960 3939 
Fax: +1 617 449 6999 
 
JANICE P. BROWN (SBN 114433) 
jbrown@myersnave.com 
MATTHEW B. NAZARETH (SBN 
278405) 
mnazareth@myersnave.com 
MEYERS NAVE 
600 B Street, Suite 1650 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29336 
Page 25 of 26

 
21 
MEMORANDUM OF POINTS & AUTHORITIES ISO 
DEFENDANT’S MOT. TO RECONSIDER                                                                                          CASE NO.: 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB 
 
1 
2 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
11 
12 
13 
14 
15 
16 
17 
18 
19 
20 
21 
22 
23 
24 
25 
26 
27 
28 
San Diego, CA 92101 
 
Attorneys for Defendant 
BANK OF AMERICA, N.A. 
 
Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB     Document 503-1     Filed 06/26/25     PageID.29337 
Page 26 of 26

File and source

File
gov.uscourts.casd.709615.503.1.pdf
Size
280,306 bytes
SHA-256
309744f88e1306f7eaf5d03aae6823bcad7ffd6fe798ae564490a8f906ec5b5e
Our copy
gov.uscourts.casd.709615.503.1.pdf
Original
PACER (login required)
Back to top