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Exhibit 3 — Bofa Ca Unemployment (Dkt. 454.4)
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Exhibit 3, Document 454-4 in In re Bank of America California Unemployment Benefits Litigation, Case 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB, filed April 11, 2025 provisionally under seal with redactions under a stipulated protective order. It opens with a March 7, 2025 letter to Judge Berg in which Bank of America, N.A. renews its request for a protective order barring the plaintiffs from deposing its current CEO and former COO. The letter argues under the apex doctrine that the two executives have no unique, non-repetitive knowledge, noting that the plaintiffs deposed six additional witnesses after a December 23, 2024 tentative ruling; it is signed by James W. McGarry. Attached exhibits include deposition transcript pages dated February 19, 2025 and December 10, 2024 and the bank's responses and objections to Plaintiff Yick's first set of interrogatories. The exhibit runs 139 pages.
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EXHIBIT 3
FILED
PROVISIONALLY
UNDER SEAL WITH
REDACTIONS
PURSUANT TO
STIPULATED
PROTECTIVE ORDER
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March 7, 2025
VIA EMAIL (efile berg@casd.uscourts.gov)
Re: In re Bank of America Calif. Unemployment Benefits Litig., 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB
Dear Judge Berg:
BANA renews its request for a protective order precluding Plaintiffs from deposing BANA’s two top
executives—current CEO Brian Moynihan and former COO Thomas Montag. On December 23, 2024,
the Court issued a tentative ruling granting BANA’s request because it agreed that Plaintiffs had not
satisfied the apex doctrine’s requirement to exhaust efforts to take discovery through less burdensome
means. The Court further ruled that Plaintiffs must take depositions of certain BANA witnesses before it
would reconsider depositions of BANA’s two top executives. The parties accepted the tentative ruling,
and Plaintiffs deposed six additional witnesses—each of whom was involved in the development,
approval, and/or implementation of the Fraud Filter and/or other relevant aspects of the EDD prepaid
program. Their testimony confirmed what BANA has said all along: Messrs. Moynihan and Montag have
no unique and non-repetitive knowledge concerning the issues in this case. Plaintiffs, therefore, have
nothing new to offer except more baseless speculation based on a handful of the hundreds of thousands
of documents produced in this matter. Thus, the depositions of BANA’s two top executives should be
precluded because Plaintiffs cannot satisfy the apex standard.
“Virtually every court that has addressed deposition notices directed at an official at the highest level or
‘apex’ of corporate management has observed that such discovery creates a tremendous potential for
abuse or harassment.” Celerity, Inc. v. Ultra Clean Holding, Inc., 2007 WL 205067, at *3 (N.D. Cal. Jan.
25, 2007). The deposition notices of Messrs. Moynihan and Montag are no exception, particularly given
Plaintiffs’ confessed desire to push settlement via executive discovery. To curb such abuse, courts have
placed the burden on the party seeking an apex deposition to show (1) the deponent has “unique first-
hand, non-repetitive knowledge of the facts at issue in the case,” and (2) the party has “exhausted other
less intrusive discovery methods.” In re Google Litig., 2011 WL 4985279, at *2 (N.D. Cal. Oct. 19, 2011).
There is no dispute that Messrs. Moynihan and Montag are “clearly high-level executives whose
depositions must satisfy the ‘apex’ requirements.” Id. 1 “[W]here a high-level decision maker ‘removed
from the daily subjects of the litigation’ has no unique personal knowledge of the facts at issue, a
deposition of the official is improper.” Affinity Labs of Texas v. Apple, Inc., 2011 WL 1753982, at *15 (N.D.
Cal. May 9, 2011) (citations omitted). The apex standard for depositions is different and higher than the
one that applies to disputes about ESI discovery—a distinction that Plaintiffs concede. See Pls. Dist. Ct.
ESI Br., Filed Under Seal at Dkt. 268-1, at 15-17 (referring to “heightened apex doctrine standard”).
Plaintiffs were able to obtain ESI from Messrs. Moynihan and Montag by arguing that their ESI documents
might have unique information relevant to their claim for punitive damages. But the apex doctrine requires
Plaintiffs to demonstrate far more to take top executive depositions. Plaintiffs cannot do so.
In ruling on Plaintiffs’ request for ESI from Messrs. Moynihan and Montag, Judge Curiel granted Plaintiffs’
request for limited ESI so that Plaintiffs could explore their unsubstantiated claim that BANA’s two top
executives “knew about the [Fraud Filter], its impact on legitimate EDD cardholders, when they knew it,
what action they directed, authorized, or ratified, and why.” Dist. Ct. ESI Order at 6, quoting Pls. Dist. Ct.
1 Mr. Montag was BANA’s second-in-line executive until December 2021, and is now the CEO of Rubicon Carbon.
See K.C.R. v. Cty. of Los Angeles, 2014 WL 3434257, at *3 (C.D. Cal. July 11, 2014) (apex doctrine protects
executives “even after leaving office”).
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Respectfully submitted,
/s/ James W. McGarry
James W. McGarry
Cc: via email to:
Matthew B. Nazareth (mnazareth@meyersnave.com)
Brian Danitz (bdanitz@cpmlegal.com)
Karin Swope (kswope@cpmlegal.com)
Michael Rubin (mrubin@altshulerberzon.com)
Connie K. Chan (cchan@altshulerberzon.com)
Stacey M. Leyton (sleyton@altshulerberzon.com)
Gayle M. Blatt (gmb@cglaw.com)
David S. Casey (dcasey@cglaw.com)
Thomas Hefferon (thefferon@goodwinlaw.com)
Matthew L. Riffee (mriffee@goodwinlaw.com)
Valerie A. Haggans (vhaggans@goodwinlaw.com)
Lindsay E. Hoyle (lhoyle@goodwinlaw.com)
Laura Brys (lbrys@goodwinlaw.com)
Yvonne W. Chan (ychan@jonesday.com)
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Exhibit 1
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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IN RE BANK OF AMERICA )
4 CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT )
BENEFITS LITIGATION )
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) Case Number:
6 ) 3:21:MD-02992-GPC-MSB
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7 ___________________________ )
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8 THIS DOCUMENT RELATES TO )
ACTIONS )
9 _____________________________)
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CONFIDENTIAL TRANSCRIPT
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18 VIDEOCONFERENCE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF:
19 JENNIFER EHRESMAN
20 WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2025
21 REPORTED BY: MARCI TIEL, CSR No. 12791
22 Job No. 10157866
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Confidential
Jennifer Ehresman In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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IN RE BANK OF AMERICA )
4 CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT )
BENEFITS LITIGATION )
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) Case Number:
6 ) 3:21:MD-02992-GPC-MSB
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7 ___________________________ )
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8 THIS DOCUMENT RELATES TO )
ACTIONS )
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BE IT REMEMBERED that, pursuant to Notice of
15 Taking Deposition, and on Wednesday, February 19,
2025, commencing at the hour of 9:37 a.m. and ending
16 at the hour of 12:16 p.m., before me, MARCI TIEL, a
Certified Shorthand Reporter of the State of
17 California, appeared via videoconference
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JENNIFER EHRESMAN,
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produced as a witness in said action, who, being
20 first duly sworn by the Certified Shorthand Reporter,
via videoconference, was thereupon examined as a
21 witness in said cause.
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www.aptusCR.com
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Confidential
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1 R E M O T E A P P E A R A N C E S
2
3 FOR PLAINTIFFS AND THE PROPOSED CLASS:
4
ALTSHULER BERSON, LLP
5 177 Post Street, Suite 300
San Francisco, California 91408
6 415.421.7151
By: CONNIE K. CHAN
7 Attorney at Law
cchan@altber.com
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9 COTCHETT, PITRE & McCARTHY, LLP
840 Malcolm Road, Suite 200
10 Burlingame, California 94010
650.697.6000
11 By: VASTI S. MONTIEL
BRIAN DANITZ
12 Attorneys at Law
vmontiel@cpmlegal.com
13 bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
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15 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS:
16 SWIGART LAW GROUP, APC
2221 Camino Del Rio S, Suite 308
17 San Diego, California 92108
866.219.3343
18 By: JOSHUA B. SWIGART
Attorney at Law
19 josh@swigartlawgroup.com
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SHAY LEGAL, APC
21 2221 Camino Del Rio S, Suite 308
San Diego, California 92108
22 619-222-7429
BY: DANIEL SHAY
23 Attorney at Law
Dan@shaylegal.com
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www.aptusCR.com
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1 REMOTE APPEARANCES (Continued.)
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FOR THE DEFENDANT AND THE WITNESS:
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GOODWIN PROCTOR, LLP
4 1900 N Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20036
5 202.346.4029
By: MATTHEW RIFFEE
6 ANGELICA RANKINS
NGHIA JONES
7 Attorneys at Law
mriffee@goodwinlaw.com
8 arankins@goodwinlaw.com
nghiajones@goodwinlaw.com
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10 GOODWIN PROCTOR, LLP
620 Eighth Avenue
11 New York, New York 10018
212.813.8800
12 BY: ANNE BAYLY BUCK
Attorney at Law
13 abuck@goodwinlaw.com
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15 Also Present:
16 COLE HOLLAND - Videographer
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1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER
2 I, MARCI TIEL, a Certified Shorthand
3 Reporter, hereby certify that the witness in the
4 foregoing deposition was by me duly sworn, via
5 videoconference, to tell the truth, the whole truth,
6 and nothing but the truth in the within-titled
7 cause; that said deposition is a true record and was
8 taken in shorthand by me, a disinterested person, at
9 the time and place therein stated, and that the
10 testimony of said witness was thereafter reduced to
11 typewriting, by computer, under my direction and
12 supervision;
13 I further certify that I am not of counsel
14 or attorney for any of the parties to said
15 deposition, nor in any way interested in the events
16 of this cause, and that I am not related to any of
17 the parties thereto.
18 Dated: March 1, 2025
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20 ___________________________
21 MARCI TIEL, CSR No. 12791
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Exhibit 2
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
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5 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA Case No.
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT
6 BENEFITS LITIGATION 3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB
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11 December 10, 2024
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15 Videotape Deposition of BRADLEY GARFIELD,
16 taken pursuant to notice, held at Goodwin
17 Procter, 3025 JFK Blvd. - 7th Floor,
18 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19104, commencing at
19 9:05 a.m., on the above date, before Lori Guyer,
20 Professional Court Reporter and Notary Public in
21 and for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
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23 Job No. 10154399
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Bradley Garfield In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 APPEARANCES:
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CONNIE K. CHAN, ESQUIRE
3 JAMES BALTZER, ESQUIRE
ALTSHULER BERZON, LLP
4 177 Post Street - Suite 300
San Francisco, California 94108
5 Cchan@altber.com
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For - The Plaintiffs and the
7 Proposed Class
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YVONNE W. CHAN, ESQUIRE
9 JONES DAY
100 High Street - 21st Floor
10 Boston, Massachusetts 02110
Ychan@jonesday.com
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For - The Defendant, Bank of
12 America
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14 ANGELICA RANKINS, ESQUIRE
ALEXIS DESAUTEL, ESQUIRE
15 GOODWIN PROCTER
1900 N Street
16 Washington, DC 20036
Arankins@goodwinlaw.com
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For - The Defendant
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19 (The following Counsel were present via Zoom)
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KARIN B. SWOPE, ESQUIRE
21 BRIAN DANITZ, ESQUIRE
COTCHETT, PITRE & MCCARTHY, LLP
22 840 Malcolm Road - Suite 200
Burlingame, California 94010
23 Kswope@cpmlegal.com
For - The Plaintiffs and the
24 Proposed Class
www.aptusCR.com
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Bradley Garfield In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 APPEARANCES CONTINUED:
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3 ILANA PLATKIEWICZ, ESQUIRE
SWIGART LAW GROUP, APC
4 2221 Camino Del Rio South - Suite 308
San Diego, California 92108
5 Josh@swigartlawgroup.com
6 For - Individual Plaintiffs
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8 DANIEL G. SHAY, ESQUIRE
LAW OFFICES OF DANIEL G. SHAY
9 2221 Camino Del Rio South - Suite 308
San Diego, California 92108
10 Daniel@consumerlit.com
11 For - Individual Plaintiffs
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13 CAROLINE HUNSICKLER, ESQUIRE
ALTSHULER BERZON, LLP
14 177 Post Street - Suite 300
San Francisco, California 94108
15 Contact@altshulerberzon.com
16 For -
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18 AMANDA LAUS, ESQUIRE
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20 ALSO PRESENT:
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Nate Armstrong, Videographer
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www.aptusCR.com
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20 BY MS. C. CHAN:
21 Q. So you addressed this a little
22 bit already, but just for clarity, what was your
23 role with respect to the bank's prepaid
24 unemployment insurance card program in 2020?
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1 C E R T I F I C A T E
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6 I, LORI GUYER, BEING A REGISTERED
PROFESSIONAL REPORTER, DO HEREBY CERTIFY THAT
7 THE FOREGOING TESTIMONY WAS TAKEN
STENOGRAPHICALLY BY ME AFTER THE SAID WITNESS
8 WAS DULY SWORN OR AFFIRMED PRIOR TO THE
COMMENCEMENT OF THEIR TESTIMONY; AND THAT THIS
9 DEPOSITION TRANSCRIPT IS A TRUE AND CORRECT
TRANSCRIPT OF THE SAME, FULLY TRANSCRIBED UNDER
10 MY DIRECTION, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND
SKILL.
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12 I FURTHER CERTIFY THAT I AM NOT A RELATIVE,
EMPLOYEE OR ATTORNEY OR ANY OF THE PARTIES IN
13 THIS ACTION; THAT I AM NOT A RELATIVE OR
EMPLOYEE OF ANY ATTORNEY INTERESTED IN THE EVENT
14 OF THIS ACTION.
15 DATED: 12/16/2024
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LORI GUYER
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Exhibit 3
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CONFIDENTIAL
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1 JAMES W. MCGARRY (admitted pro hac vice)
JMcGarry@goodwinlaw.com
2 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
100 Northern Avenue
3 Boston, MA 02210
Tel.: +1 617 570 1000
4 Fax: +1 617 523 1231
5 YVONNE W. CHAN (admitted pro hac vice)
YChan@jonesday.com
6 JONES DAY
100 High Street
7 Boston, MA 02110
Tel.: +1 617 960 3939
8 Fax: +1 617 449 6999
9 Attorneys for Defendant
BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.
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11 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
12 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
13 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA Case No. 3-21-md-02992-LAB-MSB
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT
14 BENEFITS LITIGATION,
BANK OF AMERICA’S
15 _______________________________ RESPONSES AND OBJECTIONS
TO PLAINTIFF YICK’S FIRST
16 SET OF INTERROGATORIES
This Document Relates to All Actions (SET ONE)
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BANK OF AMERICA’S RESPONSES AND OBJECTIONS TO PLAINTIFF YICK’S REQUEST FOR
PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS (SET TWO)
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1 Dated: September 5, 2023 Respectfully Submitted,
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3 By:/s/ James W. McGarry
4 JAMES W. MCGARRY
JMcGarry@goodwinlaw.com
5 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
100 Northern Avenue
6 Boston, MA 02210
Tel.: +1 617 570 1000
7 Fax: +1 617 523 1231
8 MATTHEW L. RIFFEE
MRiffee@goodwinlaw.com
9 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
1900 N Street, NW
10 Washington, DC 20036
Tel.: +1 202 346 4000
11 Fax: +1 202 204 7237
12 YVONNE W. CHAN
YChan@jonesday.com
13 JONES DAY
100 High Street
14 Boston, MA 02110
Tel.: +1 617 960 3939
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AMERICA, N.A.
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1 PROOF OF SERVICE
2 I am employed in Washington, DC. I am over the age of 18 and not a party
to the within action. My business address is: 1900 N Street, NW Washington, DC.
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On September 5, 2023 I caused to be served the following document on the
4 person(s) below:
5 DEFENDANT BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.’S RESPONSES AND
OBJECTIONS TO PLAINTIFF YICK’S FIRST SET OF
6 INTERROGATORIES
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Brian Danitz Interim Co-lead Counsel for
8 Karin B. Swope Plaintiffs and Proposed Class
Andrew F. Kirtley Tel.: 650-697-6000
9 Peter Luc bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
Jeanine Toomey kswope@cpmlegal.com
10 Cotchett, Pitre & McCarthy, LLP akirtley@cpmlegal.com
840 Malcolm Road, Suite 200 pluc@cpmlegal.com
11 Burlingame, CA 940010 jtoomey@cpmlegal.com
12 Michael Rubin Interim Co-lead Counsel for
Stacey M. Leyton Plaintiffs and Proposed Class
13 Matthew Murray Tel.: 415-421-7151
Connie K. Chan mrubin@altber.com
14 Altshuler Berzon LLP sleyton@altber.com
177 Post Street, Suite 300
15 San Francisco, CA 94108 mmurray@altber.com
cchan@altber.com
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18 X (E-MAIL or ELECTRONIC TRANSMISSION) By electronic service.
Based upon a court order or agreement of the parties to accept electronic
19 service, I caused the documents to be sent to the persons at the electronic
service addresses listed
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I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.
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Executed on September 5, 2023 at New York, New York.
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Matthew L. Riffee /s/ Matthew L. Riffee
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INTERROGATORIES (SET ONE)
ACTIVE/124648163.
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Exhibit 4
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2 *** CONFIDENTIAL - PROTECTIVE ORDER ***
3 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
4 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
5 ----------------------------------x
6 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA Case No.
7 CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT 3:21-md-02992
8 BENEFITS LITIGATION GPC-MSB
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12 VIDEOTAPED STENOGRAPHIC DEPOSITION OF:
FAIZ A. AHMAD
13 Wednesday, January 29, 2025
New York, New York
14 10:07 a.m. - 5:38 p.m.
***HYBRID DEPOSITION***
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21 Reported stenographically by:
Richard Germosen, FAPR, CA CSR No. 14391
22 RDR, CRR, CCR, CRCR, CSR-CA, NYACR, NYRCR
NCRA/NJ/NY/CA Certified Realtime Reporter
23 NCRA Realtime Systems Administrator
Job No. 10155736
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Confidential - Protective Order
Faiz A. Ahmad In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
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2 VIDEOTAPED TELECONFERENCED STENOGRAPHIC
3 DEPOSITION of FAIZ A. AHMAD, taken in the above-entitled
4 matter before RICHARD GERMOSEN, Fellow of the Academy of
5 Professional Reporters, Certified Court Reporter,
6 (License No. 30XI00184700), Certified Realtime Court
7 Reporter-NJ, (License No. 30XR00016800), California
8 Certified Shorthand Reporter, (License No. 14391),
9 NCRA/NY/CA Certified Realtime Reporter, NCRA Registered
10 Diplomate Reporter, New York Association Certified
11 Reporter, NCRA Realtime Systems Administrator, taken at
12 the offices of GOODWIN PROCTER LLP, The New York Times
13 Building, 620 Eighth Avenue, 26th Floor, New York, New
14 York 10018, on Wednesday, January 29, 2025, commencing
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Faiz A. Ahmad In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
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2 A P P E A R A N C E S:
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4 COTCHETT PITRE & McCARTHY LLP
5 BY: BRIAN DANITZ, ESQ.
6 840 Malcolm Road
7 Suite 200
8 Burlingame, California 94010
9 (650) 697.6000 | (650) 697.0577 (FAX)
10 bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
11 Attorneys for the Plaintiffs and the Proposed Class
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13 COTCHETT PITRE & McCARTHY LLP
14 BY: KARIN B. SWOPE, ESQ., (via Zoom)
15 1807 7th Avenue
16 Suite 1610
17 Seattle, Washington 98101
18 (206) 802.1272 | (206) 299.4184 (FAX)
19 kswope@cpmlegal.com
20 Attorneys for the Plaintiffs and the Proposed Class
21
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25
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1
2 A P P E A R A N C E S: (CONT'D.)
3
4 ALTSHULER BERZON LLP
5 BY: CAROLINE HUNSICKER, ESQ.
6 -and-
7 BY: YVONNE (CONNIE) W. CHAN, ESQ., (via Zoom)
8 177 Post Street
9 Suite 300
10 San Francisco, California 94108
11 (415) 421.7151
12 chunsicker@altshulerberzon.com
13 Attorneys for the Plaintiffs and the Proposed Class
14
15 SWIGART LAW GROUP APC LLP
16 BY: JOSHUA B. SWIGART, ESQ., (via Zoom)
17 -and-
18 BY: ILANA PLATKIEWICZ, ESQ., (via Zoom)
19 2221 Camino Del Rio South
20 Suite 308
21 San Diego, California 92108
22 (866.219.3343
23 josh@swigartlawgroup.com
24 Attorneys for the Individual Plaintiffs
25
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1
2 A P P E A R A N C E S: (CONT'D.)
3
4 DANIEL G. SHAY, ESQ.
5 BY: DANIEL G. SHAY, ESQ., (via Zoom)
6 2221 Camino Del Rio South
7 Suite 308
8 San Diego, California 92108
9 (619) 222.7429
10 daniel@consumerlit.com
11 Attorneys for the Individual Plaintiffs
12
13 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
14 BY: MATTHEW L. RIFFEE, ESQ.
15 -and-
16 BY: ANGELICA RANKINS, ESQ., (via Zoom)
17 1900 N Street, N.W.
18 Washington, D.C. 20036
19 (202) 346.4000
20 mriffee@goodwinlaw.com
21 arankins@goodwinlaw.com
22 Attorneys for the Defendant,
23 Bank of America, N.A.
24
25
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1
2 A P P E A R A N C E S: (CONT'D.)
3
4 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
5 BY: ANNE BAYLY BUCK, ESQ.
6 -and-
7 BY: LINDSAY E. HOYLE, ESQ., (via Zoom)
8 The New York Times Building
9 620 Eighth Avenue
10 New York, New York 10018
11 (212) 813.8800
12 abuck@goodwinlaw.com
13 Attorneys for the Defendant,
14 Bank of America, N.A.
15
16 ALSO PRESENT:
17 RICHARD MORALES, Legal Video Specialist
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
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1
2 C E R T I F I C A T E
3 I, RICHARD GERMOSEN, Fellow of the
4 Academy of Professional Reporters, stenographic New
5 Jersey Certified Court Reporter, New Jersey Certified
6 Realtime Court Reporter, California Certified
7 Shorthand Reporter, California Certified Realtime
8 Reporter, NCRA Registered Diplomate Reporter, and
9 NCRA Certified Realtime Reporter, do hereby certify:
10 That FAIZ A. AHMAD, the witness whose
11 deposition is hereinbefore set forth, having been
12 duly sworn, and that such deposition is a true
13 record of the testimony of said witness.
14 I further certify that I am not related
15 to any of the parties to this action by blood or
16 marriage, and that I am in no way interested in the
17 outcome of this matter.
18 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set
19 my hand this 3rd day of February 2025.
20
21 ________________________________________________
22 RICHARD GERMOSEN,
FAPR, RDR, CRR, CCR-NJ, CRCR, CSR-CA, CCRR-CA,
23 NYACR, NYRCR
LICENSE NO. 30XI00184700
24 LICENSE NO. 30XR00016800
California CSR No. 14391
25 California CRR No. 198
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Exhibit 5
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA CALIFORNIA )
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS LITIGATION, )
5 )
)
6 _________________________________ )Case No.
)3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB
7 )
This Document Relates to All )
8 Actions )
__________________________________)
9
10
11
12
13 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
14 REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF PAUL SIMPSON
15 Taken On
16 Friday, February 21, 2025
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24 STENOGRAPHICALLY REPORTED BY:
SHAYNA LUTSKY, CSR 14554
25 JOB NO.: 10157867
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Highly Confidential - Attorneys' Eyes Only
Paul Simpson In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA CALIFORNIA )
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS LITIGATION, )
5 )
)
6 _________________________________ )Case No.
)3:21-md-02992-GPC-MSB
7 )
This Document Relates to All )
8 Actions )
__________________________________)
9
10
11 REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION of PAUL SIMPSON, taken
12 remotely via Zoom on behalf of the Plaintiffs,
13 commencing at 8:35 a.m., and ending at 11:09 a.m. on
14 Friday, February 21, 2025, before Shayna Lutsky,
15 Certified Shorthand Reporter No. 14554.
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
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Paul Simpson In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 APPEARANCES:
2
FOR THE PLAINTIFFS:
3 COTCHETT, PITRE & McCARTHY, LLP
BY: BRIAN DANITZ, ESQ.
4 KARIN B. SWOPE, ESQ.
VASTI S. MONTIEL, ESQ.
5 840 Malcolm Road
Suite 200
6 Burlingame, CA 94010
(650) 697-6000
7 Bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
Kswope@cpmlegal.com
8 Vmontiel@cpmlegal.com
9 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS:
GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
10 BY: BENJAMIN SHIN, ESQ.
601 S Figueroa Street
11 41st Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90017
12 (213) 426-2568
Bshin@goodwinlaw.com
13
FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS:
14 SWIGART LAW GROUP, APC
BY: JOSHUA SWIGART, ESQ.
15 2221 Camino Del Rio S
SUITE 308
16 San Diego, CA 92108-3611
866-219-3343
17 Josh@swigartlawgroup.com
18 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS:
SHAY LEGAL, APC
19 BY: DANIEL SHAY, ESQ.
2221 Camino Del Rio S
20 Suite 308
San Diego, CA 92108-3611
21 619-222-7429
Dan@ShayLegal.com
22
23
24
25
www.aptusCR.com
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1 APPEARANCES: (Cont.)
2
FOR THE DEFENDANT BANK OF AMERICA:
3 JONES DAY
BY: YVONNE W. CHAN, ESQ.
4 100 High Street
21st Floor
5 Boston, MA 02110-1781
(617) 960-3939
6 Ychan@jonesday.com
7 FOR THE DEFENDANTS:
GOODWIN LAW FIRM
8 BY: BAYLY BUCK, ESQ.
100 Northern Avenue
9 Boston, MA 02210
(617) 570-1000
10 ABuck@goodwinlaw.com
11
12
13 ALSO PRESENT:
Peter Luc
14 Spencer Benveniste, the Videographer
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
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1 REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
2
3
4 I, Shayna Lutsky, CSR 14554, a
5 Certified Shorthand Reporter in and for the State of
6 California, do hereby certify:
7 That prior to being examined, the
8 witness named in the foregoing proceedings declared
9 under penalty of perjury to testify to the truth,
10 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth;
11 That said proceedings were taken by
12 me in shorthand at the time and place herein named
13 and was thereafter transcribed into typewriting
14 under my direction, said transcript being a true and
15 correct transcription of my shorthand notes.
16 I further certify that I have no
17 interest in the outcome of this action.
18
19 Dated: February 24, 2025
20 _________________________________
SHAYNA LUTSKY
21 CSR 14554
22
23
24
25
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Exhibit 6
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA )
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT )
5 BENEFITS LITIGATION )
)
6 ) CASE NO.
) 3:21-MD-02992-GPC-
7 _____________________________ ) MSB
)
8 THIS DOCUMENT RELATES TO ALL )
ACTIONS )
9 ________________________________)
10
11
12
13
14
15
16 REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MELISSA RAMIREZ
17 TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2025
18
19
20
21 JOB NO.: 10157864
22
23 REPORTED BY HEIDI FUEHRER, CSR 14145
24
25
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1 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF MELISSA RAMIREZ, TAKEN ON
2 BEHALF OF THE PLAINTIFFS, AT 9:35 A.M., TUESDAY,
3 FEBRUARY 11, 2025, AT CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, BEFORE
4 HEIDI FUEHRER, CSR NUMBER 14145.
5
6 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
7
8 FOR THE PLAINTIFFS AND THE PROPOSED CLASS:
9 ALTSHULER BERZON LLP
BY: CONNIE K. CHAN, ATTORNEY AT LAW
10 ---AND---
COLIN C. JONES, ATTORNEY AT LAW
11 177 POST STREET
SUITE 300
12 SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 94108
415-362-8064
13 CCHAN@ALTBER.COM
14 ---AND---
15 COTCHETT, PITRE & MCCARTHY, LLP
BY: BRIAN DANITZ, ATTORNEY AT LAW
16 ---AND---
KARIN B. SWOPE, ATTORNEY AT LAW
17 840 MALCOLM ROAD
SUITE 200
18 BURLINGAME, CALIFORNIA 94010
650-697-6000
19 BDANITZ@CPMLEGAL.COM
20
21
22
23
24
25
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1 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL (CONTINUED):
2
3 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS:
4 SWIGART LAW GROUP, APC
BY: JOSHUA B. SWIGART, ATTORNEY AT LAW
5 ---AND---
ILANA PLATKIEWICZ, ATTORNEY AT LAW
6 2221 CAMINO DEL RIO S
SUITE 308
7 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92108
866-219-3343
8 JOSH@SWIGARTLAWGROUP.COM
9 ---AND---
10 SHAY LEGAL, APC
BY: DANIEL SHAY, ATTORNEY AT LAW
11 2221 CAMINO DEL RIO S
SUITE 308
12 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92108
619-222-7429
13 DAN@SHAYLEGAL.COM
14
15 FOR THE DEFENDANT:
16 GOODWIN PROCTER, LLP
BY: LINDSAY E. HOYLE, ATTORNEY AT LAW
17 ---AND---
ANNE BAYLY BUCK, ATTORNEY AT LAW
18 620 EIGHTH AVENUE
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10018
19 212-813-8800
LHOYLE@GOODWINLAW.COM
20
21
22 ALSO PRESENT:
MARISA RAMOS, VIDEOGRAPHER
23
24
25
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1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA )
2 COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES ) ss.
3
4 I, HEIDI FUEHRER, CSR No. 14145, in and for the
5 State of California, do hereby certify:
6 That prior to being examined, the witness named
7 in the foregoing deposition was by me duly sworn to
8 testify to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
9 the truth;
10 That said deposition was taken down by me in
11 shorthand at the time and place therein named and
12 thereafter reduced to typewriting under my direction,
13 and the same is a true, correct, and complete transcript
14 of said proceedings;
15 That if the foregoing pertains to the original
16 transcript of a deposition in a Federal Case, before
17 completion of the proceedings, review of the transcript
18 { } Was { X } was not required.
19 I further certify that I am not interested in
20 the event of the action.
21 Witness my hand this 12th day of February,
22 2025.
23 ____________________________
24 Certified Shorthand Reporter
25 for the State of California
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Exhibit 7
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA Case No.
5 CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT 3:21-md-02292
6 BENEFITS LITIGATION -GPC-MSB
7 ____________________________________/
8
9
10
11
12 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF ANNE HOLT
13 Charlotte, North Carolina
14 January 8, 2025
15 10:07 a.m.
16
17
18
19
20 Reported by: Karen K. Kidwell, RMR, CRR
21 Job Number: 10155338
22
23
24
25
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Anne Holt In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA Case No.
5 CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT 3:21-md-02292
6 BENEFITS LITIGATION -GPC-MSB
7 ____________________________________/
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF ANNE HOLT, a
16 witness called on behalf of Plaintiffs, before Karen
17 K. Kidwell, Notary Public, in and for the State of
18 North Carolina, at McGuire Woods, 201 North Tryon
19 Street, Suite 3000,, Charlotte, North Carolina, on
20 Wednesday, January 8, 2025, commencing at 10:07 a.m.
21
22
23
24
25
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1 A P P E A R A N C E S
2 For Plaintiffs and the Proposed Class:
3 COTCHETT, PITRE & MCCARTHY, LLP
4 BY: BRIAN DANITZ, ESQ.
DAVID G. HOLLENBERG, ESQ. (Via Zoom)
5 840 Malcolm Road, Suite 200
Burlingame, CA 94010
6 650.697.6000
bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
7
8 ALTSHULER BERZON, LLP
9 BY: CAROLINA HUNSICKER, ESQ.
177 Post Street, Suite 300
10 San Francisco, CA 94108
415.421.7151 Ext. 348
11 chunsicker@altshulerberzon.com
12
13 For Defendant:
14 GOODWIN PROCTER LLP
15 BY: SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH, ESQ.
JACKIE ODUM, ESQ.
16 1900 N Street
Washington, DC 20036
17 202.346.4185
srosesmith@goodwinlaw.com
18
19
20 For Individual Plaintiffs:
21 SWIGART LAW GROUP, APC LLP
22 BY: JOSHUA B. SWIGART, ESQ. (Via Zoom)
ILANA PLATKIEWICZ, ESQ. (Via Zoom)
23 2221 Camino Del Rio South, Suite 308
San Diego, CA 92108
24 866.219.3343
josh@swigartlawgroup.com
25
www.aptusCR.com
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1 APPEARANCES CONTINUED:
2 For Individual Plaintiffs:
3 LAW OFFICE OF DANIEL G. SHAY LLP
4 BY: DANIEL G. SHAY, ESQ. (Via Zoom)
2221 Camino Del Rio South, Suite 308
5 San Diego, CA 92108
619.222.7429
6 daniel@consumerlit.com
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16 Also Present:
17 Rachael Corcione, Videographer
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
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1 STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
2 COUNTY OF MECKLENBURG
3
4 I, Karen K. Kidwell, RMR, CRR, in and for
5 the State of North Carolina, do hereby certify that
6 there came before me on Wednesday, January 8, 2025, the
7 person hereinbefore named, who was by me duly sworn to
8 testify to the truth and nothing but the truth of her
9 knowledge concerning the matters in controversy in this
10 cause; that the witness was thereupon examined under
11 oath, the examination reduced to typewriting under my
12 direction, and the deposition is a true record of the
13 testimony given by the witness.
14 I further certify that I am neither attorney
15 or counsel for, nor related to or employed by, any
16 attorney or counsel employed by the parties hereto or
17 financially interested in the action.
18 This the 19th day of January, 2025.
19
20
21 ______________________________
Karen K. Kidwell, RMR, CRR
22 Notary Public #19971050142
23
24
25
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Exhibit 8
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CONFIDENTIAL
1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
2
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA )
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT )
5 BENEFITS LITIGATION, )
)
6 ) No. 3:21-02992-md-LAB-MSB
)
7 )
This document relates to )
8 all actions. )
9 CONFIDENTIAL
10 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION
11 OF
12 RENEE JOHNSON
13 PAGES 1 - 245
14
Deposition taken on:
15 Tuesday, May 7, 2024
9:00 a.m. - 3:34 p.m.
16
17
Deposition taken at:
18 FOLEY & LARDNER LLP
1 Independent Dr
19 Suite 1300
Jacksonville, Fl 32202
20
21 Stenographically Reported By:
Sherri R. Martin, Stenographic Shorthand Reporter
22 Notary Public, State of Florida at Large
Veritext Legal Solutions
23
24
25
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Veritext Legal Solutions
Calendar-CA@veritext.com 866-299-5127
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CONFIDENTIAL
1 A P P E A R A N C E S
2
3 On behalf of Plaintiff:
4 BRIAN DANITZ, ESQUIRE
KARIN SWOPE, ESQUIRE (ZOOM)
5 VASTI MONTIEL, ESQUIRE (ZOOM)
6 COTCHETTE PITREE & MCCARTHY
840 Malcolm Road
7 Suite 200
Burlingame, CA 94101
8 bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
9
10 MICHAEL RUBIO, ESQUIRE (ZOOM)
CONNIE K. CHAN, ESQUIRE (ZOOM)
11 COLIN CLEMENTE JONES, ESQUIRE (ZOOM)
12 ALTSHULER BERZON
117 Post Street
13 Suite 300
San Francisco, CA 94108
14 cchan@altshulerberzon.com
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16 On behalf of Defendant Bank of America NA:
17 MATTHEW RIFFEE, ESQUIRE
ANGELICA RANKINS, ESQUIRE
18 LINDSAY E. HOYLE, ESQUIRE (ZOOM)
19 GOODWIN PROCTOR
1900 N Street NW
20 Washington, DC 20036
mriffee@goodwinlaw.com
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22 Videographer: Christine Montplasir
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CONFIDENTIAL
1 BRIAN DANITZ, ESQ.
2 bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
3 May 13, 2024
4 In Re Bank Of America California Unemployment Benefits
5 May 7, 2024-RENEE JOHNSON-JOB NO.6666026
6 The above-referenced transcript has been
7 completed by Veritext Legal Solutions and
8 review of the transcript is being handled as follows:
9 __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Contact Veritext
10 to schedule a time to review the original transcript at
11 a Veritext office.
12 __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Locked .PDF
13 Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and
14 make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included
15 below, notating the page and line number of the corrections.
16 The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty
17 of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all
18 appearing counsel within the period of time determined at
19 the deposition or provided by the Code of Civil Procedure.
20 Contact Veritext when the sealed original is required.
21 __ Waiving the CA Code of Civil Procedure per Stipulation of
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24 __ Signature Waived – Reading & Signature was waived at the
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1 __ Federal R&S Requested (FRCP 30(e)(1)(B)) – Locked .PDF
2 Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and
3 make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included
4 below, notating the page and line number of the corrections.
5 The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty
6 of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all
7 appearing counsel within the period of time determined at
8 the deposition or provided by the Federal Rules.
9 _X_ Federal R&S Not Requested - Reading & Signature was not
10 requested before the completion of the deposition.
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
IN RE: BANK OF AMERICA ) Case No.:
4 CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT ) 3:21-md-02992-LAB-MSB
BENEFITS LITIGATION )
5 )
This Document Relates to )
6 All Actions )
)
7 ____________________________)
8
9
10
11 VIDEOTAPED 30(b)(6) DEPOSITION OF
12 BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.
13 by its designee: MICHAEL LETSON
14 9:20 a.m.
15 Friday, February 16, 2024
16 (Taken by Plaintiffs)
17
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25 REPORTED BY: Christine A. Taylor, RPR
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1 APPEARANCES
2
3 For the Plaintiffs and the Proposed Class:
4 ALTSHULER BERZON LLP
BY: CONNIE K. CHAN, ESQ.
5 STACEY LEYTON, ESQ. (via Zoom)
177 Post Street, Suite 300
6 San Francisco, California 94108
415.421.7151
7 cchan@altshulerberzon.com
sleyton@altshulerberzon.com
8
9 COTCHETT, PITRE & McCARTHY, LLP
BY: ANDREW F. KIRTLEY, ESQ.
10 BRIAN DANITZ, ESQ. (via Zoom)
KARIN B. SWOPE, ESQ. (via Zoom)
11 840 Malcolm Road, Suite 200
Burlingame, California 94010
12 650.697.6000
akirtley@cpmlegal.com
13 bdanitz@cpmlegal.com
kswope@cpmlegal.com
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15 For Individual Plaintiff:
16 SWIGART LAW GROUP APC
BY: JOSHUA B. SWIGART, ESQ. (via Zoom)
17 ILANA PLATKIEWICZ, ESQ. (via Zoom)
2221 Camino Del Rio S.
18 Suite 308
San Diego, California 92108
19 866.219.3343
josh@swigartlawgroup.com
20 ilana@swigartlawgroup.com
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1 For the Defendant Bank of America, N.A.:
2 GOODWIN PROCTER, LLP
BY: SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH, ESQ.
3 JACKIE ODUM, ESQ.
1900 N Street NW
4 Washington, D.C. 20036
202.346.4000
5 srosesmith@goodwinlaw.com
jodum@goodwinlaw.com
6
7 Also Present:
8 Amanda Laus (via Zoom)
9 Colin Jones (via Zoom)
10 Michael Rubin (via Zoom)
11 David Cooper, Videographer
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1 SABRINA M. ROSE-SMITH, ESQ.
2 srosesmith@goodwinlaw.com
3 February 29, 2024
4 IN RE: BANK OF AMERICA CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS
LITIGATION
5 February 16, 2024, MICHAEL LETSON, 30(b)(6), JOB NO. 6459947
6 The above-referenced transcript has been
7 completed by Veritext Legal Solutions and
8 review of the transcript is being handled as follows:
9 __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Contact Veritext
10 to schedule a time to review the original transcript at
11 a Veritext office.
12 __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Locked .PDF
13 Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and
14 make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included
15 below, notating the page and line number of the corrections.
16 The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty
17 of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all
18 appearing counsel within the period of time determined at
19 the deposition or provided by the Code of Civil Procedure.
20 Contact Veritext when the sealed original is required.
21 __ Waiving the CA Code of Civil Procedure per Stipulation of
22 Counsel - Original transcript to be released for signature
23 as determined at the deposition.
24 __ Signature Waived – Reading & Signature was waived at the
25 time of the deposition.
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1 _x_ Federal R&S Requested (FRCP 30(e)(1)(B)) – Locked .PDF
2 Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and
3 make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included
4 below, notating the page and line number of the corrections.
5 The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty
6 of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all
7 appearing counsel within the period of time determined at
8 the deposition or provided by the Federal Rules.
9 __ Federal R&S Not Requested - Reading & Signature was not
10 requested before the completion of the deposition.
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ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3 Case No. 3:21-md-02992-LAB-MSB
4 _______________________________________________
5 IN RE: BANK OF AMERICA'S CALIFORNIA
6 UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS LITIGATION
7
8 This Document Relates to All Actions
9 _______________________________________________
10
11 *** CONFIDENTIAL - ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY ***
12
13 VIDEOTAPED & VIDEOCONFERENCED DEPOSITION OF
14 WILLIAM MATTHEW MARTIN
15
16 Atlanta, Georgia
17 Wednesday, February 14, 2024
18
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20
21 Court Reporter:
22 Michelle M. Boudreaux-Phillips, CCR
23 JOB No. 6459932
24
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ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
1 February 14, 2024
2 9:17 a.m.
3
4
5 Videotaped and videoconferenced
6 deposition of WILLIAM MATTHEW MARTIN, held at
7 Jones Day, 1221 Peachtree Street, N.E.,
8 Suite 400, Atlanta, Georgia, pursuant to
9 Agreement, before Michelle M. Boudreaux-
10 Phillips, a Certified Court Reporter in the
11 State of Georgia.
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ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
1 APPEARANCES
2
3 On behalf of the Plaintiffs:
4 CONNIE K. CHAN, Esq.
5 Altshuler Berzon LLP
6 177 Post Street
7 Suite 300
8 San Francisco, California 94108
9 415.421.7151
10 cchan@altshulerberzon.com
11
12 ANDREW F. KIRTLEY, Esq.
13 Cotchett, Pitre & McCarthy, LLP
14 San Francisco Airport Office Center
15 840 Malcolm Road
16 Suite 200
17 Burlingame, California 94010
650.697.6000
18 akirtley@cpmlegal.com
19
20 JOSHUA SWIGART, Esq. (via Zoom)
21 Swigart Law Group APC
22 2221 Camino Del Rio S.
23 Suite 308
24 San Diego, California 92108
866.219.3343
25 josh@swigartlawgroup.com
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ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
1 APPEARANCES (Cont'd)
2
3 On behalf of the Defendant:
4 MATTHEW L. RIFFEE, Esq.
5 Goodwin Procter LLP
6 1900 N Street NW
7 Washington, District of Columbia 20036
8 202.346.4000
9 mriffee@goodwinlaw.com
10
11 ANGELICA RANKINS, Esq.
12 Goodwin Procter LLP
13 100 Northern Avenue
14 Boston, Massachusetts 02210
617.570.1000
15 arankins@goodwinlaw.com
16
17 LINDSAY E. HOYLE, Esq. (via Zoom)
18 Goodwin Procter LLP
19 The New York Times Building
20 620 Eighth Avenue
21 New York, New York 10018
22 212.813.8800
23 lhoyle@goodwinlaw.com
24
25 Videographer: Mike Brown
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ATTORNEYS' EYES ONLY
1 MATTHEW L. RIFFEE, Esq.
2 mriffee@goodwinlaw.com
3 February 28, 2024
4 RE: BANK OF AMERICA'S CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS LITIGATION
5 FEBRUARY 14, 2024, WILLIAM MATTHEW MARTIN, JOB NO. 6459932
6 The above-referenced transcript has been
7 completed by Veritext Legal Solutions and
8 review of the transcript is being handled as follows:
9 __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Contact Veritext
10 to schedule a time to review the original transcript at
11 a Veritext office.
12 __ Per CA State Code (CCP 2025.520 (a)-(e)) – Locked .PDF
13 Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and
14 make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included
15 below, notating the page and line number of the corrections.
16 The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty
17 of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all
18 appearing counsel within the period of time determined at
19 the deposition or provided by the Code of Civil Procedure.
20 Contact Veritext when the sealed original is required.
21 __ Waiving the CA Code of Civil Procedure per Stipulation of
22 Counsel - Original transcript to be released for signature
23 as determined at the deposition.
24 __ Signature Waived – Reading & Signature was waived at the
25 time of the deposition.
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1 xx Federal R&S Requested (FRCP 30(e)(1)(B)) – Locked .PDF
2 Transcript - The witness should review the transcript and
3 make any necessary corrections on the errata pages included
4 below, notating the page and line number of the corrections.
5 The witness should then sign and date the errata and penalty
6 of perjury pages and return the completed pages to all
7 appearing counsel within the period of time determined at
8 the deposition or provided by the Federal Rules.
9
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11 requested before the completion of the deposition.
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1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
3
4 IN RE BANK OF AMERICA )
CALIFORNIA UNEMPLOYMENT )
5 BENEFITS LITIGATION, )
)
6 ) CASE NO.
) 3:21-MD-02992-GPC-
7 _____________________________ ) MSB
)
8 THIS DOCUMENT RELATES TO ALL )
ACTION )
9 ________________________________)
10
11
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16 REMOTE VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF WILLIAM J. FOX
17 THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2025
18
19
20
21 JOB NO.: 10157865
22
23 REPORTED BY HEIDI FUEHRER, CSR 14145
24
25
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William J. Fox In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF WILLIAM J. FOX, TAKEN ON BEHALF
2 OF THE PLAINTIFFS, AT 9:01 A.M., THURSDAY,
3 FEBRUARY 13, 2025, AT CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA, BEFORE
4 HEIDI FUEHRER, CSR NUMBER 14145.
5
6 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL:
7
8 FOR THE PLAINTIFFS AND THE PROPOSED CLASS:
9 ALTSHULER BERZON LLP
BY: CONNIE K. CHAN, ATTORNEY AT LAW
10 ---AND---
COLIN C. JONES, ATTORNEY AT LAW
11 177 POST STREET
SUITE 300
12 SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 94108
415-362-8064
13 CCHAN@ALTBER.COM
14 ---AND---
15 COTCHETT, PITRE & MCCARTHY, LLP
BY: BRIAN DANITZ, ATTORNEY AT LAW
16 ---AND---
KARIN B. SWOPE, ATTORNEY AT LAW
17 840 MALCOLM ROAD
SUITE 200
18 BURLINGAME, CALIFORNIA 94010
650-697-6000
19 BDANITZ@CPMLEGAL.COM
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William J. Fox In Re Bank of America CA Unemployment Benefits Litigation
1 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL (CONTINUED):
2
3 FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFFS:
4 SWIGART LAW GROUP, APC
BY: ILANA PLATKIEWICZ, ATTORNEY AT LAW
5 2221 CAMINO DEL RIO S
SUITE 308
6 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92108
866-219-3343
7 JOSH@SWIGARTLAWGROUP.COM
8 ---AND---
9 SHAY LEGAL, APC
BY: DANIEL SHAY, ATTORNEY AT LAW
10 2221 CAMINO DEL RIO S
SUITE 308
11 SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 92108
619-222-7429
12 DAN@SHAYLEGAL.COM
13
14 FOR THE DEFENDANT:
15 GOODWIN PROCTER, LLP
BY: SABRINA ROSE-SMITH, ATTORNEY AT LAW
16 ---AND---
JACQUELINE ODUM, ATTORNEY AT LAW
17 ---AND---
ANNE BAYLY BUCK, ATTORNEY AT LAW
18 1900 N STREET NW
WASHINGTON, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20036
19 202-346-4000
SROSESMITH@GOODWINLAW.COM
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22 ALSO PRESENT:
SPENCER BENVENISTE, VIDEOGRAPHER
23
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1 STATE OF CALIFORNIA )
2 COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES ) ss.
3
4 I, HEIDI FUEHRER, CSR No. 14145, in and for the
5 State of California, do hereby certify:
6 That prior to being examined, the witness named
7 in the foregoing deposition was by me duly sworn to
8 testify to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
9 the truth;
10 That said deposition was taken down by me in
11 shorthand at the time and place therein named and
12 thereafter reduced to typewriting under my direction,
13 and the same is a true, correct, and complete transcript
14 of said proceedings;
15 That if the foregoing pertains to the original
16 transcript of a deposition in a Federal Case, before
17 completion of the proceedings, review of the transcript
18 { } Was { X } was not required.
19 I further certify that I am not interested in
20 the event of the action.
21 Witness my hand this 26th day of February,
22 2025.
23 ____________________________
24 Certified Shorthand Reporter
25 for the State of California
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