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U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia · No. 1:20-cr-00296-JPB-CMS · Doc. 1033 · 2024-06-14 · Docket on CourtListener

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A transcript of Volume 9 of the jury trial of Carla Jackson and Teldrin Foster, No. 1:20-cr-00296-JPB, before District Judge J.P. Boulee of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, held February 15, 2024 and filed June 14, 2024 as Document 1033. The court agrees to give the jury an index of the exhibits it requested. The foreperson reads unanimous guilty verdicts on all counts against both defendants, confirming guilt on both bank fraud and wire fraud where both were listed, and the jury is polled at the defense's request. Samir Kaushal for the government invokes the presumption of detention under Title 18 United States Code, Section 3143, and the court releases Jackson, agreeing with the government's assessment. Leigh Ann Webster for Foster argues that he has appeared at every court date and that conditions could address any flight concern.

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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CARLA JACKSON AND
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TELDRIN FOSTER,
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DEFENDANTS.
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TRANSCRIPT OF JURY TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE HONORABLE J.P. BOULEE
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
FEBRUARY 15, 2024
APPEARANCES:
ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT: 
TAL C. CHAIKEN, ESQ.
SAMIR KAUSHAL, ESQ.
BABASIJIBOMI MOORE, ESQ.  
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS
ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT - TELDRIN FOSTER:
LEIGH ANN WEBSTER, ESQ.
SARALIENE DURRETT, ESQ.
ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT - CARLA JACKSON:
DAVID D. MARSHALL, ESQ.
  
STENOGRAPHICALLY RECORDED BY:  
PENNY PRITTY COUDRIET, RMR, CRR
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
ATLANTA, GEORGIA
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(PROCEEDINGS HELD IN OPEN COURT AT 10:38 PM, ATLANTA, GEORGIA)
(Jurors not present in the courtroom.)
THE COURT:  So I think I asked Ms. Lee to alert you 
of an issue.  You may already be aware of it.  The jury has 
requested an index of the exhibits, which seems to me to be a 
reasonable request given the number of documents involved in 
this case.  I would like to give them an index.  
Does anyone take issue with that?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  We would like for them to have an 
index, Judge. 
MS. WEBSTER:  We don't have any issue with that, Your  
Honor.  Thank you. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No issue. 
THE COURT:  Do we have an index we can give them?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  We have ours. 
MS. WEBSTER:  And I just sent ours to Ms. Lee, which 
specifically also notes the ones that are on the USB drive.  
THE COURT:  Okay.  
Mr. Marshall?  
MR. MARSHALL:  Ms. Hirani has already sent one.  I 
think the clerk has it up there.  
COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK:  You can send it and I'll 
print it.  
THE COURT:  Very well.  It sounds like you either 
have a list for Ms. Lee to give to them or are sending them 
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one.  And once she has those, she will give them all three 
lists at the same time.  
In an abundance of caution, we'll also make a copy of 
those and mark them as Court's Exhibit whatever we're up to 
just for the record.  
Okay?  
COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK:  Okay.  
THE COURT:  Thanks, everyone. 
(After a recess at 10:52 a.m., the proceedings 
continued at 1:09 p.m. as follows:) 
THE COURT:  I understand we have a verdict, so if you 
could please bring in the jury.  
(The jury entered the courtroom at 1:19 p.m.) 
THE COURT:  You can be seated.  
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, who is your 
foreperson?  All right.  
Sir, I understand that you've reached a unanimous 
verdict, is that correct?  
THE FOREPERSON:  We have, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  If you can please hand your verdict to 
the court security officer.  
Mr. Foreperson, I notice that one of the two -- he's 
going to need this pen, Officer.  
One of the two verdict forms wasn't dated.  If you 
could date that, please.  
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He can hold onto it.  Thank you, Officer. 
All right.  I would ask the foreperson -- I've 
inspected the verdict form and they appear to be in good 
order.  
I'm going to now ask the foreperson to publish the 
verdicts by reading your verdicts.  And if, as I believe the 
case, it's a verdict as to all counts, you don't have to read 
each individual count, you can just state what your verdict is 
as to all counts as to each individual defendant.
All right.  Go ahead.  
THE FOREPERSON:  As to all counts for the defendant 
Carla Jackson, we, the jury, unanimously find the defendant 
Carla Jackson guilty.  
As to all counts against defendant Teldrin Foster, 
we, the jury, find unanimously the defendant Teldrin Foster 
guilty. 
THE COURT:  Thank you.  And I would ask you one other 
question.  For various counts there was a question as to 
whether or not if it was a guilty verdict, whether it was for 
bank fraud or wire fraud or both.  If you can announce that as 
well.  And if it's the same for all, you can announce that if 
it's the same for all such counts that ask that question.  
THE FOREPERSON:  Confirming that for all counts where 
there is both bank fraud and wire fraud listed, we found 
guilty on both counts. 
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THE COURT:  All right.  Thank you. 
You can give the verdict form to the court security 
officer who will give it to the courtroom deputy, please, 
Officer, for filing.  
Would anyone like the jury to be polled?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, your Honor.
MR. MARSHALL:  Yes, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I'm now 
going to ask each of you individually whether or not that was 
your verdict in all respects.  
So, Mr. Foreperson, was that your verdict -- the 
verdicts that were just read, were those your verdicts in all 
respects?  
THE FOREPERSON:  They were. 
THE COURT:  Ma'am, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Sir, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Ma'am, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Ma'am, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
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A JUROR:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Ma'am, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Sir, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Sir, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Sir, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Ma'am, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  Sir, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  Sir, were the verdicts that were just 
read your verdicts in all respects?  
A JUROR:  Yes, sir. 
THE COURT:  And, Ms. Lee, if you could please file 
those verdicts.  
Counsel, is anything else needed of this jury?  
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MR. KAUSHAL:  Nothing from the government, your 
Honor.  Thank you.
MS. WEBSTER:  No, your Honor.
MR. MARSHALL:  No, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Ladies and gentlemen of the 
jury, in just a moment I'm going to release you, but before I 
do I want to thank you again for your service to this court 
and your service to our country.  I do firmly believe that 
jury service is one of the most important duties of 
citizenship.  And as I said at the beginning of this trial, 
our justice system could not function without citizens like 
you that are willing to do this.  So I thank you very much for 
your service.  
You are hereby released.  
And, Officer, if you could -- off the record for a 
moment.  
(Off-the-record discussion.) 
(Pause in the proceedings.)  
THE COURT:  All right.  As far as the pretrial 
conditions, does anyone want to be heard on that issue?  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Yes, your Honor.  
The government is invoking the presumption of 
detention for -- under Title 18 United States Code, 
Section 3143, for Mr. Foster, for Defendant Foster.  
That same presumption would apply to Ms. Jackson as 
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well, but in our assessment we believe she could likely meet 
the standard there, which is that clear and convincing 
evidence standard.  
For Mr. Foster, however, for Defendant Foster, there 
are significant -- 
THE COURT:  Let me break in for a moment.  
Mr. Marshall, unless you want to be further heard, 
then I believe we can release Ms. Jackson for the time being.  
Does everyone concur?  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Yes, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Thank you, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Marshall, Ms. Jackson.
MR. MARSHALL:  Thank you very much, Judge. 
THE COURT:  I agree with the government's assessment, 
so there's nothing for me to decide there.  Very well.
(Mr. Marshall and Ms. Carla Jackson were excused from 
the courtroom at 1:31 p.m.)
THE COURT:  Go ahead, Mr. Kaushal.  Sorry to 
interrupt you. 
MR. KAUSHAL:  There is significant sentencing 
exposure here now for this defendant.  He's been convicted of 
dozens of felony offenses, all of which carry 20 years or so 
of maximum possible penalties.  Under the guidelines he would 
have significant sentencing exposure, which your Honor is 
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aware of having sentenced so many individuals in connection 
with this case.  
Of particular concern is a lack of kind of a stable 
employment here.  It's been said that the defendant is a 
barber.  That's something that he could -- you know, as 
they've said, is a cash business and he could easily up and 
leave and go off into the wind, and we would have a hard time 
tracking him down.  
And also of note, your Honor, is that we've already 
had one defendant flee in this case -- or not appear, I should 
say, at the beginning of the trial he did not appear for 
trial.  And there is a concern that this defendant will choose 
the same path should he walk out now.  
So for those reasons we ask that the defendant be 
detained. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster.  
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, Mr. Foster has been aware 
of the number of counts that he's been charged with and the 
likely sentencing exposure that he would face for years at 
this point.  
He received a target letter in 2021.  He was indicted 
in 2021.  He has been on bond since that time.  I think it's 
inappropriate to rely on the fact that a separate defendant 
did not show up to the trial that Mr. Foster showed up to and 
came every day and has been here for and continues to be here 
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for it.  So the idea that he is likely to flee at this point 
when he has come to trial knowing exactly what he is facing, 
we've had extensive conversations with him about that, I don't 
think is reflective or supported by the record.  
He's shown up to every court date.  He's shown up to 
every meeting with me.  There have been no issues with him 
attempting to skip town or anything like that.  
The fact that he works as a barber does not mean that 
he is more likely to flee.  Yes, he can do that in other 
places, but he has a clientele and a customer base here.  
His whole life -- not his whole life but his life for a 
significant period of time has been here.  
I don't hear the government invoking or making any 
arguments that he is -- poses a danger to the community, so 
I'm not addressing that unless the Court would like me to.  
But I don't think that the Court -- that the reasons 
articulated by the government justify detention in this case 
when he has shown up every day.  I think that we can meet our 
burden by clear and convincing evidence just based on his 
showing up to court every single day, and the fact that 
there's been no indication that he has been hard to get in 
touch with by the probation officer, hard to get in touch with 
with me.  There's been nothing to suggest that he will not 
show up.  
If the Court is concerned about that, then there are 
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conditions that the Court can impose that would justify -- 
that would resolve those concerns.  So while we don't think 
that it is necessary or appropriate to put an ankle monitor 
on, that is something that if the Court is concerned, then we 
are -- then that is a condition that the Court could impose 
that would alleviate that concern.  
And, again, it is not fair to hold another 
defendant's actions against him when he showed up to the very 
trial that that other defendant did not show up to.  So the 
fact that the other defendant did not show up and he showed up 
I think strongly weighs in our favor by saying he should be 
allowed to stay out on bond.  
I think that's what we have on that, your Honor.  
Thank you.  
THE COURT:  Anything else from the government?  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Your Honor, I would just say that the 
circumstances have changed substantially due to the fact that 
he has now been found guilty, and that is a completely 
different world than all these days leading up to this moment 
and the sentencing exposure is significant, and we would ask 
that he be detained. 
THE COURT:  All right.  
I'm going to grant the government's motion.  I want 
to be clear, though, that my reasoning has nothing to do with 
the fact that Mr. Baptiste failed to show up for trial.  I'm 
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not going to attribute Mr. Baptiste's actions to Mr. Foster.  
However, in this case it is the defense's burden to 
show by clear and convincing evidence that Mr. Foster is not 
likely to flee and I just don't think the defense has been 
able to show that.  
As Mr. Kaushal noted, he now stands convicted of 
numerous serious federal crimes involving significant sums    
of money and faces a potentially very, very long prison 
sentence.  
Also, there were significant -- as I noted, there's 
significant moneys involved in this case.  That's concerning 
to me.  And also the underlying facts of this case involving 
so many frauds and made up names and incomes and everything 
else, it seems like that would be in line with some of the 
things that someone would do if they needed to be on the lam, 
whether that's a fake ID or get ahold of funds, et cetera.  
I'm not persuaded that a condition like an ankle 
monitor would cause someone not to flee.  You know, anybody 
who has an ankle monitor and the ability to go into a Home 
Depot and get some cutters can cut an ankle monitor.  Ankle 
monitors might be an effective way of telling us when someone 
has absconded but it doesn't really prevent anyone from 
absconding.  
Therefore, I don't think the defense has met its 
burden and Mr. Foster will go into custody awaiting 
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sentencing.  
Is there anything else from either side?  
DEFENDANT FOSTER:  Can I speak?  
THE COURT:  Yes, Mr. Foster. 
MS. WEBSTER:  May we have one second?
THE COURT:  Of course.  
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, the issue that Mr. Foster 
is raising is that as a result of the agreed bond modification 
several years ago at this point, Mr. Foster has not been -- 
felt like he was able to contact his son Aiden because Aiden's 
mother is Gena Pyfrom-Foster.  So there were issues about 
that, and he was concerned that that would have an impact on 
his bond status.  So he has not been able to see him for 
several years at this point.  
So he is asking for the chance to see him one time 
and to turn himself in tomorrow and just to have the night so 
that he can see him before he goes into custody because he 
does understand the significance sentence -- or the potential 
sentence that he will receive in this case.  
THE COURT:  All right.  So -- and, Mr. Foster, I'm 
sympathetic to that request.  I'm sorry that the conditions 
have been such that -- and I don't know if this is something 
that, you know, might have warranted clarification before now, 
but I understand that -- the desire to see your son before you 
go into custody.  And I would like somehow to be magically 
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able to accommodate that, you know, I genuinely would.  
I'm imaging you have some anger towards the justice 
system, towards me and the prosecutors and everyone involved 
in this at the moment, and I get that.  And I, frankly -- I 
would like to give you that small thing and let you see your 
son today.  
I don't think the law allows me to do that.  You know 
what I have to look at is that statute that Mr. Kaushal just 
cited as to whether or not you go into custody awaiting your 
sentencing, and that's what I have to apply.  And there's, 
unfortunately, under the law no exception for me to say, hey, 
but we'll do it one day from now.  
So I can't accommodate that request, but I want you 
to know that I think it's a fair request.  And if I had some 
magical way of guaranteeing that there wouldn't be an issue in 
the next 24 hours and some exception to that statute for good 
reasons like this, I would do it, but I just don't think the 
law allows me to do that, and I apologize that I can't 
accommodate that.  
I hope that perhaps there's a way that -- although 
you might not want to see him in custody, I hope there's a way 
to have some contact with him otherwise, and I genuinely mean 
that.  
You know, you've been convicted of some serious 
crimes, but that doesn't mean you can't be a good father to 
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your son.  And I'll tell you, I don't know how long you're 
going to be in prison or if the government's going to ask for 
prison, I imagine that they will, but I would hope that you're 
able to maintain a relationship with him even during that 
period.  
Anything else from anyone?  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Nothing from the government, your 
Honor. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Nothing else, your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  We're adjourned. 
(PROCEEDINGS REPORTED WERE CONCLUDED AT 1:41 P.M.)
___________________________ 
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C E R T I F I C A T E
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
I do hereby certify that the foregoing pages are a true
and correct transcript of the proceedings taken down by me in 
the case aforesaid.
   This the 15th Day of February, 2024.  
    ________________________________
  
  
               
    PENNY PRITTY COUDRIET, RMR, CRR
    OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
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AGREE [1] - 9:15
AGREED [1] - 14:8
AHEAD [2] - 5:10, 9:19
AHOLD [1] - 13:16
AIDEN [1] - 14:10
AIDEN'S [1] - 14:10
ALERT [1] - 3:3
ALLEVIATE [1] - 12:6
ALLOWED [1] - 12:12
ALLOWS [2] - 15:7, 15:18
AMERICA [1] - 2:4
AN [1] - 1:2
AND [3] - 1:4, 1:7, 2:6
ANGER [1] - 15:2
ANKLE [5] - 12:3, 13:17, 13:19, 13:20
ANN [1] - 2:18
ANNOUNCE [2] - 5:20, 5:21
ANY [1] - 1:9
APOLOGIZE [1] - 15:18
APPEAR [3] - 5:3, 10:10, 10:11
APPEARANCES [1] - 2:13
APPLY [2] - 8:25, 15:10
APPROPRIATE [1] - 12:3
ARE [1] - 1:8
ARGUMENTS [1] - 11:14
ARTICULATED [1] - 11:17
ASSESSMENT [2] - 9:1, 9:15
ASSISTANT [1] - 2:16
AT [2] - 3:1, 16:11
ATLANTA [3] - 2:2, 2:25, 3:1
ATTACHED [1] - 1:6
ATTACHING [1] - 1:9
ATTEMPTING [1] - 11:7
ATTORNEYS [1] - 2:16
ATTRIBUTE [1] - 13:1
AWAITING [2] - 13:25, 15:9
AWARE [3] - 3:4, 10:1, 10:17
B
BABASIJIBOMI [1] - 2:15
BANK [2] - 5:20, 5:24
BAPTISTE [1] - 12:25
BAPTISTE'S [1] - 13:1
BARBER [2] - 10:5, 11:8
BASE [1] - 11:10
BASED [1] - 11:19
BE [2] - 1:3, 1:4
BEFORE [1] - 2:10
BEGINNING [2] - 8:10, 10:11
BEHALF [3] - 2:14, 2:17, 2:20
BOND [4] - 10:22, 12:12, 14:8, 14:13
BOULEE [1] - 2:10
BREAK [1] - 9:6
BRING [1] - 4:12
BURDEN [3] - 11:19, 13:2, 13:25
BUSINESS [1] - 10:6
BY [3] - 1:4, 1:6, 2:23
C
CARLA [3] - 5:12, 5:13, 9:17
CARLA [2] - 2:6, 2:20
CARRY [1] - 9:23
CASE [10] - 3:7, 5:7, 10:2, 10:10, 11:17, 
13:2, 13:11, 13:12, 14:19, 17:8
CASH [1] - 10:6
CAUTION [1] - 4:3
CERTIFY [1] - 17:6
CETERA [1] - 13:16
CHAIKEN [3] - 2:14, 3:9, 3:15
CHANCE [1] - 14:15
CHANGED [1] - 12:17
CHARGED [1] - 10:18
CHOOSE [1] - 10:12
CIRCUMSTANCES [1] - 12:17
17
CITE [1] - 1:5
CITED [1] - 15:9
CITIZENS [1] - 8:11
CITIZENSHIP [1] - 8:10
CLARIFICATION [1] - 14:23
CLEAR [4] - 9:2, 11:19, 12:24, 13:3
CLERK [1] - 3:21
CLERK [2] - 3:22, 4:7
CLIENTELE [1] - 11:10
CM/ECF [2] - 1:3, 1:5
CODE [1] - 8:23
COMMUNITY [1] - 11:14
COMPLETELY [1] - 12:18
CONCERN [3] - 10:3, 10:12, 12:6
CONCERNED [3] - 11:25, 12:4, 14:12
CONCERNING [1] - 13:11
CONCERNS [1] - 12:2
CONCLUDED [1] - 16:11
CONCUR [1] - 9:9
CONDITION [2] - 12:5, 13:17
CONDITIONS [3] - 8:20, 12:1, 14:21
CONFIRMING [1] - 5:23
CONNECTION [1] - 10:1
CONTACT [2] - 14:10, 15:22
CONTINUED [1] - 4:10
CONTINUES [1] - 10:25
CONVERSATIONS [1] - 11:3
CONVICTED [3] - 9:22, 13:6, 15:24
CONVINCING [3] - 9:2, 11:19, 13:3
COPY [1] - 4:3
CORRECT [2] - 4:18, 17:7
COUDRIET [2] - 2:24, 17:15
COUNSEL [1] - 7:25
COUNT [1] - 5:8
COUNTRY [1] - 8:8
COUNTS [9] - 5:7, 5:9, 5:11, 5:14, 5:18, 
5:22, 5:23, 5:25, 10:18
COURSE [1] - 14:6
COURT [46] - 1:4, 1:7, 1:10, 2:1, 2:24, 
2:25, 3:1, 3:3, 3:14, 3:18, 3:24, 4:8, 
4:11, 4:14, 4:20, 5:17, 6:1, 6:8, 6:15, 
6:18, 6:21, 6:24, 7:2, 7:5, 7:8, 7:11, 
7:14, 7:17, 7:20, 7:23, 8:5, 8:19, 9:6, 
9:11, 9:13, 9:15, 9:19, 10:16, 12:15, 
12:22, 14:4, 14:6, 14:20, 16:10, 17:3, 
17:15
COURT [6] - 11:15, 11:16, 11:25, 12:1, 
12:4, 12:5
COURT [5] - 4:21, 6:2, 8:7, 11:5, 11:20
COURT'S [1] - 4:4
COURTROOM [4] - 3:2, 4:13, 6:3, 9:18
COURTROOM [2] - 3:22, 4:7
CRIMES [2] - 13:7, 15:25
CRR [2] - 2:24, 17:15
CUSTODY [5] - 13:25, 14:17, 14:25, 
15:9, 15:21
CUSTOMER [1] - 11:10
CUT [1] - 13:20
CUTTERS [1] - 13:20
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D
DANGER [1] - 11:14
DATE [2] - 4:25, 11:5
DATED [1] - 4:24
DAVID [1] - 2:20
DAYS [1] - 1:5
DAYS [1] - 12:19
DECIDE [1] - 9:16
DEFENDANT [13] - 5:9, 5:11, 5:12, 5:14, 
5:15, 9:22, 10:4, 10:10, 10:12, 10:14, 
10:23, 12:9, 12:10
DEFENDANT [3] - 2:17, 2:20, 14:3
DEFENDANT [2] - 8:24, 9:4
DEFENDANT'S [1] - 12:8
DEFENDANTS [1] - 2:8
DEFENSE [2] - 13:4, 13:24
DEFENSE'S [1] - 13:2
DEPOT [1] - 13:20
DEPUTY [1] - 6:3
DEPUTY [2] - 3:22, 4:7
DESIRE [1] - 14:24
DETAINED [2] - 10:15, 12:21
DETENTION [2] - 8:23, 11:17
DIFFERENT [1] - 12:19
DISCUSSION [1] - 8:17
DISTRICT [6] - 2:1, 2:1, 2:10, 2:25, 17:3, 
17:4
DIVISION [1] - 2:2
DOCKET [2] - 1:6, 2:5
DOCUMENT [1] - 1:10
DOCUMENTS [1] - 3:6
DOWN [2] - 10:8, 17:7
DOZENS [1] - 9:23
DRIVE [1] - 3:17
DUE [1] - 12:17
DURING [1] - 16:4
DURRETT [1] - 2:18
DUTIES [1] - 8:9
E
EASILY [1] - 10:6
EFFECTIVE [1] - 13:21
EITHER [2] - 3:24, 14:2
EMPLOYMENT [1] - 10:4
ENTERED [1] - 4:13
ENTRY [1] - 1:6
ESQ [6] - 2:14, 2:15, 2:15, 2:18, 2:18, 
2:20
ET [1] - 13:16
EVIDENCE [3] - 9:3, 11:19, 13:3
EXACTLY [1] - 11:2
EXCEPTION [2] - 15:11, 15:16
EXCUSED [1] - 9:17
EXHIBIT [1] - 4:4
EXHIBITS [1] - 3:5
EXPOSURE [4] - 9:22, 9:25, 10:19, 
12:20
EXTENSIVE [1] - 11:3
F
FACE [1] - 10:19
FACES [1] - 13:8
FACING [1] - 11:2
FACT [6] - 10:23, 11:8, 11:20, 12:10, 
12:17, 12:25
FACTS [1] - 13:12
FAILED [1] - 12:25
FAIR [2] - 12:7, 15:14
FAKE [1] - 13:16
FAR [1] - 8:19
FATHER [1] - 15:25
FAVOR [1] - 12:11
FEBRUARY [1] - 2:11
FEBRUARY [1] - 17:9
FEDERAL [1] - 13:7
FELONY [1] - 9:23
FELT [1] - 14:10
FILE [1] - 7:23
FILED [3] - 1:3, 1:8, 1:10
FILING [1] - 6:4
FIRMLY [1] - 8:8
FLEE [5] - 10:10, 11:1, 11:9, 13:4, 13:18
FOLLOWING [1] - 1:2
FOLLOWS [1] - 4:10
FOR [2] - 1:5, 2:1
FOREGOING [1] - 17:6
FOREPERSON [5] - 4:16, 4:22, 5:2, 5:5, 
6:11
FOREPERSON [4] - 4:19, 5:11, 5:23, 
6:14
FORM [2] - 5:3, 6:2
FORMS [1] - 4:24
FOSTER [3] - 2:7, 2:17, 14:3
FOSTER [16] - 5:14, 5:15, 8:24, 9:4, 
10:17, 10:24, 13:1, 13:3, 13:25, 14:4, 
14:7, 14:9, 14:11, 14:20
FRANKLY [1] - 15:4
FRAUD [4] - 5:20, 5:24
FRAUDS [1] - 13:13
FROM [1] - 1:9
FULL [1] - 1:9
FUNCTION [1] - 8:11
FUNDS [1] - 13:16
G
GENA [1] - 14:11
GENTLEMEN [3] - 4:15, 6:8, 8:5
GENUINELY [2] - 15:1, 15:22
GEORGIA [4] - 2:1, 2:25, 3:1, 17:4
GIVEN [1] - 3:6
GOVERNMENT [6] - 8:1, 8:22, 11:13, 
11:17, 12:15, 16:7
GOVERNMENT [1] - 2:14
GOVERNMENT'S [3] - 9:15, 12:23, 16:2
GRANT [1] - 12:23
GUARANTEEING [1] - 15:15
GUIDELINES [1] - 9:24
18
GUILTY [5] - 5:13, 5:16, 5:19, 5:25, 
12:18
H
HAND [1] - 4:20
HARD [3] - 10:7, 11:21, 11:22
HAS [1] - 1:8
HEAR [1] - 11:13
HEARD [2] - 8:20, 9:7
HELD [1] - 3:1
HEREBY [2] - 8:14, 17:6
HIMSELF [1] - 14:16
HIRANI [1] - 3:20
HOLD [2] - 5:1, 12:7
HOME [1] - 13:19
HONOR [19] - 3:12, 4:19, 6:6, 6:7, 7:7, 
8:2, 8:3, 8:4, 8:21, 9:10, 9:12, 9:25, 
10:9, 10:17, 12:13, 12:16, 14:7, 16:8, 
16:9
HONORABLE [1] - 2:10
HOPE [3] - 15:20, 15:21, 16:3
HOURS [1] - 15:16
HOWEVER [1] - 1:8
I
ID [1] - 13:16
IDEA [1] - 11:1
IMAGINE [1] - 16:3
IMAGING [1] - 15:2
IMPACT [1] - 14:12
IMPORTANT [1] - 8:9
IMPOSE [2] - 12:1, 12:5
IN [3] - 1:3, 1:4, 3:1
INAPPROPRIATE [1] - 10:23
INCOMES [1] - 13:13
INDEX [4] - 3:5, 3:7, 3:10, 3:14
INDICATION [1] - 11:21
INDICTED [1] - 10:21
INDIVIDUAL [2] - 5:8, 5:9
INDIVIDUALLY [1] - 6:9
INDIVIDUALS [1] - 10:1
INSPECTED [1] - 5:3
INTERRUPT [1] - 9:20
INVOKING [2] - 8:22, 11:13
INVOLVED [3] - 3:6, 13:11, 15:3
INVOLVING [2] - 13:7, 13:12
IS [1] - 1:2
ISSUE [7] - 3:4, 3:8, 3:11, 3:13, 8:20, 
14:7, 15:15
ISSUES [2] - 11:6, 14:11
J
J.P [1] - 2:10
JACKSON [6] - 5:12, 5:13, 8:25, 9:8, 
9:13, 9:17
JACKSON [2] - 2:6, 2:20
JUDGE [1] - 2:10
JUDGE [2] - 3:10, 9:14
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JUROR [11] - 6:17, 6:20, 6:23, 7:1, 7:4, 
7:7, 7:10, 7:13, 7:16, 7:19, 7:22
JURORS [1] - 3:2
JURY [1] - 2:9
JURY [11] - 3:4, 4:12, 4:13, 4:15, 5:12, 
5:15, 6:5, 6:8, 7:25, 8:6, 8:9
JUSTICE [2] - 8:11, 15:2
JUSTIFY [2] - 11:17, 12:1
K
KAUSHAL [3] - 9:19, 13:6, 15:8
KAUSHAL [7] - 2:15, 8:1, 8:21, 9:10, 
9:21, 12:16, 16:7
KIND [1] - 10:3
KNOWING [1] - 11:2
L
LACK [1] - 10:3
LADIES [3] - 4:15, 6:8, 8:5
LAM [1] - 13:15
LAW [3] - 15:7, 15:11, 15:18
LEADING [1] - 12:19
LEAVE [1] - 10:7
LEE [4] - 3:3, 3:16, 3:25, 7:23
LEIGH [1] - 2:18
LETTER [1] - 10:21
LIFE [3] - 11:11
LIKELY [5] - 9:1, 10:19, 11:1, 11:9, 13:4
LINE [1] - 1:7
LINE [1] - 13:14
LIST [1] - 3:25
LISTED [1] - 5:24
LISTS [1] - 4:2
LOOK [1] - 15:8
M
MA'AM [4] - 6:15, 6:21, 7:2, 7:14
MA'AM [1] - 6:24
MAGICAL [1] - 15:15
MAGICALLY [1] - 14:25
MAINTAIN [1] - 16:4
MARK [1] - 4:4
MARSHALL [2] - 9:7, 9:13
MARSHALL [2] - 3:19, 9:17
MARSHALL [7] - 2:20, 3:13, 3:20, 6:7, 
8:4, 9:12, 9:14
MAXIMUM [1] - 9:24
MAY [2] - 1:3, 1:5
MEAN [3] - 11:8, 15:22, 15:25
MEET [2] - 9:1, 11:18
MEETING [1] - 11:6
MET [1] - 13:24
MIGHT [3] - 13:21, 14:23, 15:21
MODIFICATION [1] - 14:8
MOMENT [5] - 8:6, 8:16, 9:6, 12:19, 
15:4
MONEY [1] - 13:8
MONEYS [1] - 13:11
MONITOR [4] - 12:3, 13:18, 13:19, 
13:20
MONITORS [1] - 13:21
MOORE [1] - 2:15
MOST [1] - 8:9
MOTHER [1] - 14:11
MOTION [1] - 12:23
MR [12] - 3:13, 3:20, 6:7, 8:1, 8:4, 8:21, 
9:10, 9:12, 9:14, 9:21, 12:16, 16:7
MS [10] - 3:9, 3:11, 3:15, 3:16, 6:6, 8:3, 
10:17, 14:5, 14:7, 16:9
N
NAMES [1] - 13:13
NECESSARY [1] - 12:3
NEED [1] - 4:23
NEEDED [2] - 7:25, 13:15
NEXT [1] - 15:16
NIGHT [1] - 14:16
NO [1] - 2:5
NORTHERN [2] - 2:1, 17:4
NOTE [1] - 10:9
NOTED [2] - 13:6, 13:10
NOTES [1] - 3:17
NOTHING [6] - 8:1, 9:16, 11:23, 12:24, 
16:7, 16:9
NOTICE [1] - 4:22
NUMBER [2] - 3:6, 10:18
NUMBER [2] - 1:6, 1:7
NUMEROUS [1] - 13:7
O
OF [10] - 1:2, 1:5, 1:6, 2:1, 2:4, 2:9, 2:14, 
2:17, 2:20, 17:4
OFF-THE-RECORD [1] - 8:17
OFFENSES [1] - 9:23
OFFICER [3] - 4:21, 6:3, 11:22
OFFICER [4] - 4:23, 5:1, 6:4, 8:15
OFFICIAL [6] - 1:2, 1:3, 1:4, 1:8, 2:24, 
17:15
ON [3] - 2:14, 2:17, 2:20
ONCE [1] - 4:1
ONE [10] - 3:20, 4:1, 4:22, 4:24, 5:17, 
8:9, 10:10, 14:5, 14:15, 15:12
ONES [1] - 3:17
ONLY [2] - 1:3, 1:7
OPEN [1] - 3:1
OR [1] - 1:9
ORDER [1] - 5:4
OTHERWISE [1] - 15:22
P
P.M [3] - 4:10, 4:13, 9:18
P.M [1] - 16:11
PAGE [1] - 1:7
PAGES [1] - 17:6
PARTIAL [1] - 1:9
PARTICULAR [1] - 10:3
19
PATH [1] - 10:13
PAUSE [1] - 8:18
PDF [1] - 1:2
PEN [1] - 4:23
PENALTIES [1] - 9:24
PENNY [2] - 2:24, 17:15
PERHAPS [1] - 15:20
PERIOD [1] - 1:5
PERIOD [2] - 11:12, 16:5
PERSUADED [1] - 13:17
PLACES [1] - 11:10
PM [1] - 3:1
POINT [4] - 10:20, 11:1, 14:9, 14:14
POLLED [1] - 6:5
PORTION [1] - 1:5
POSES [1] - 11:14
POSSIBLE [1] - 9:24
POTENTIAL [1] - 14:18
POTENTIALLY [1] - 13:8
PRESENT [1] - 3:2
PRESUMPTION [2] - 8:22, 8:25
PRETRIAL [1] - 8:19
PREVENT [1] - 13:22
PRINT [1] - 3:23
PRISON [3] - 13:8, 16:2, 16:3
PRITTY [2] - 2:24, 17:15
PROBATION [1] - 11:22
PROCEEDINGS [3] - 2:9, 3:1, 16:11
PROCEEDINGS [3] - 4:9, 8:18, 17:7
PROHIBITED [1] - 1:9
PROSECUTORS [1] - 15:3
PUBLISH [1] - 5:5
PUT [1] - 12:3
PYFROM [1] - 14:11
PYFROM-FOSTER [1] - 14:11
R
RAISING [1] - 14:8
REACHED [1] - 4:17
READ [13] - 5:7, 6:12, 6:16, 6:19, 6:22, 
6:25, 7:3, 7:6, 7:9, 7:12, 7:15, 7:18, 
7:21
READING [1] - 5:6
REALLY [1] - 13:22
REASONABLE [1] - 3:6
REASONING [1] - 12:24
REASONS [3] - 10:14, 11:16, 15:17
RECEIVE [1] - 14:19
RECEIVED [1] - 10:21
RECESS [1] - 4:9
RECORD [4] - 4:5, 8:15, 8:17, 11:4
RECORDED [1] - 2:23
REFERENCING [1] - 1:7
REFLECTIVE [1] - 11:4
RELATIONSHIP [1] - 16:4
RELEASE [2] - 8:6, 9:8
RELEASED [1] - 8:14
RELY [1] - 10:23
REPORTED [1] - 16:11
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REPORTER [4] - 1:4, 1:8, 2:24, 17:15
REQUEST [4] - 3:6, 14:21, 15:13, 15:14
REQUESTED [1] - 3:5
RESOLVE [1] - 12:2
RESPECTS [13] - 6:10, 6:13, 6:16, 6:19, 
6:22, 6:25, 7:3, 7:6, 7:9, 7:12, 7:15, 
7:18, 7:21
RESTRICTED [1] - 1:4
RESULT [1] - 14:8
RMR [2] - 2:24, 17:15
S
SAMIR [1] - 2:15
SARALIENE [1] - 2:18
SEATED [1] - 4:14
SECOND [1] - 14:5
SECTION [1] - 8:24
SECURITY [2] - 4:21, 6:2
SEE [6] - 14:13, 14:15, 14:17, 14:24, 
15:5, 15:21
SEND [1] - 3:22
SENDING [1] - 3:25
SENT [2] - 3:16, 3:20
SENTENCE [3] - 13:9, 14:18, 14:19
SENTENCED [1] - 10:1
SENTENCING [6] - 9:21, 9:25, 10:19, 
12:20, 14:1, 15:10
SEPARATE [1] - 10:23
SERIOUS [2] - 13:7, 15:24
SERVICE [4] - 8:7, 8:8, 8:9, 8:13
SEVERAL [2] - 14:9, 14:14
SHOW [7] - 10:24, 11:24, 12:9, 12:10, 
12:25, 13:3, 13:5
SHOWED [3] - 10:24, 12:8, 12:10
SHOWING [1] - 11:20
SHOWN [3] - 11:5, 11:18
SIDE [1] - 14:2
SIGNIFICANCE [1] - 14:18
SIGNIFICANT [8] - 9:5, 9:21, 9:25, 
11:12, 12:20, 13:7, 13:10, 13:11
SINGLE [1] - 11:20
SKIP [1] - 11:7
SMALL [1] - 15:5
SOMEONE [3] - 13:15, 13:18, 13:21
SON [4] - 14:10, 14:24, 15:6, 16:1
SORRY [2] - 9:19, 14:21
SOUNDS [1] - 3:24
SPECIFICALLY [1] - 3:17
STABLE [1] - 10:3
STANDARD [2] - 9:2, 9:3
STANDS [1] - 13:6
STATE [1] - 5:8
STATES [1] - 8:23
STATES [6] - 2:1, 2:4, 2:10, 2:16, 2:25, 
17:3
STATUS [1] - 14:13
STATUTE [2] - 15:8, 15:16
STAY [1] - 12:12
STENOGRAPHICALLY [1] - 2:23
STRONGLY [1] - 12:11
SUBSTANTIALLY [1] - 12:17
SUGGEST [1] - 11:23
SUMS [1] - 13:7
SUPPORTED [1] - 11:4
SYMPATHETIC [1] - 14:21
SYSTEM [2] - 8:11, 15:3
T
TAL [1] - 2:14
TARGET [1] - 10:21
TELDRIN [2] - 5:14, 5:15
TELDRIN [2] - 2:7, 2:17
THE [54] - 1:2, 1:4, 1:6, 1:7, 1:8, 1:10, 
2:1, 2:10, 2:14, 2:17, 2:20, 3:3, 3:14, 
3:18, 3:24, 4:8, 4:11, 4:14, 4:19, 4:20, 
5:11, 5:17, 5:23, 6:1, 6:8, 6:14, 6:15, 
6:18, 6:21, 6:24, 7:2, 7:5, 7:8, 7:11, 
7:14, 7:17, 7:20, 7:23, 8:5, 8:19, 9:6, 
9:11, 9:13, 9:15, 9:19, 10:16, 12:15, 
12:22, 14:4, 14:6, 14:20, 16:10
THEREFORE [1] - 13:24
THEY'VE [1] - 10:6
THREE [1] - 4:1
TITLE [1] - 8:23
TO [2] - 1:5, 1:9
TODAY [1] - 15:6
TOMORROW [1] - 14:16
TOUCH [2] - 11:22
TOWARDS [2] - 15:2, 15:3
TOWN [1] - 11:7
TRACKING [1] - 10:8
TRANSCRIPT [5] - 1:3, 1:6, 1:8, 1:9, 2:9
TRANSCRIPT [1] - 17:7
TRANSCRIPTS [1] - 1:3
TRIAL [7] - 8:10, 10:11, 10:12, 10:24, 
11:2, 12:9, 12:25
TRIAL [1] - 2:9
TRUE [1] - 17:6
TURN [1] - 14:16
TWO [2] - 4:22, 4:24
U
UNANIMOUS [1] - 4:17
UNANIMOUSLY [2] - 5:12, 5:15
UNDER [3] - 8:23, 9:24, 15:11
UNDERLYING [1] - 13:12
UNFORTUNATELY [1] - 15:11
UNITED [6] - 2:1, 2:4, 2:10, 2:16, 2:25, 
17:3
UNITED [1] - 8:23
UNLESS [2] - 9:7, 11:15
UP [17] - 3:21, 4:4, 10:6, 10:24, 11:5, 
11:18, 11:20, 11:24, 12:8, 12:9, 12:10, 
12:19, 12:25, 13:13
USB [1] - 3:17
20
V
VARIOUS [1] - 5:18
VERDICT [11] - 4:11, 4:18, 4:20, 4:24, 
5:3, 5:7, 5:8, 5:19, 6:2, 6:10, 6:11
VERDICTS [27] - 5:6, 6:12, 6:15, 6:16, 
6:18, 6:19, 6:21, 6:22, 6:24, 6:25, 7:2, 
7:3, 7:5, 7:6, 7:8, 7:9, 7:11, 7:12, 7:14, 
7:15, 7:17, 7:18, 7:20, 7:21, 7:24
VOLUME [1] - 2:6
VS [1] - 2:5
W
WALK [1] - 10:13
WARRANTED [1] - 14:23
WEBSTER [9] - 2:18, 3:11, 3:16, 6:6, 
8:3, 10:17, 14:5, 14:7, 16:9
WEBSTER [1] - 10:16
WEIGHS [1] - 12:11
WERE [1] - 16:11
WHOLE [2] - 11:11
WILL [1] - 1:4
WILLING [1] - 8:12
WIND [1] - 10:7
WIRE [2] - 5:20, 5:24
WITH [1] - 1:10
WORKS [1] - 11:8
WORLD [1] - 12:19
Y
YEARS [4] - 9:23, 10:19, 14:9, 14:14
YOU [2] - 1:5, 1:8
Case 1:20-cr-00296-JPB-CMS     Document 1033     Filed 06/14/24     Page 21 of 21

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