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A transcript of jury trial proceedings, Volume 6 (PM Session), dated FEBRUARY 12, 2024, Document 1029, stamped Filed 06/14/24, in United States of America v. Carla Jackson and Teldrin Foster, Docket No. 1:20-CR-00296-JPB, in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, Atlanta Division, before the Honorable J.P. Boulee. The index lists redirect examination of Joseph Stites and recross-examination by Mr. Marshall and Ms. Webster. At the start of the session the court rules on an objection raised under Rules 608 and 404(b) and for hearsay to a line of defense questions to Agent Stites, and overrules it because counsel said the questions were not offered for impeachment or for their truth.

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT - OFFICIAL CERTIFIED TRANSCRIPT
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
ATLANTA DIVISION 
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
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) DOCKET NO. 1:20-CR-00296-JPB
) VOLUME 6 (PM SESSION)
CARLA JACKSON AND
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TELDRIN FOSTER,
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DEFENDANTS.
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TRANSCRIPT OF JURY TRIAL PROCEEDINGS
BEFORE THE HONORABLE J.P. BOULEE
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
FEBRUARY 12, 2024
APPEARANCES:
ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT: 
TAL C. CHAIKEN, ESQ.
SAMIR KAUSHAL, ESQ.
BABASIJIBOMI MOORE, ESQ.  
ASSISTANT UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS
ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT - TELDRIN FOSTER:
LEIGH ANN WEBSTER, ESQ.
SARALIENE DURRETT, ESQ.
ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANT - CARLA JACKSON:
DAVID D. MARSHALL, ESQ.
  
STENOGRAPHICALLY RECORDED BY:  
PENNY PRITTY COUDRIET, RMR, CRR
OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 
ATLANTA, GEORGIA
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I N D E X
WITNESS:
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1.  JOSEPH STITES
REDIRECT EXAMINATION.......................134
RECROSS-EXAMINATION (MARSHALL).............172
RECROSS-EXAMINATION (WEBSTER)..............195
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(PROCEEDINGS HELD IN OPEN COURT AT 12:51 PM, ATLANTA, GEORGIA)
 THE COURT:  Officer, do we know if we have all the 
jurors ready.  
COURTROOM SECURITY OFFICER:  They're ready. 
THE COURT:  Okay, great.  We'll need them in just a 
minute here.
All right.  I've spent some time studying this issue.  
There's a series of questions that started with, So he came in 
for the interview in which he agreed to be truthful?  Followed 
by a question, You wanted him to be truthful?  Followed by a 
question, So he agreed to be truthful.  And then, He didn't do 
that, did he?  And then the objection.  
And Ms. Webster has clarified that the next question 
will be, He lied to you about Gena Pyfrom-Foster's 
involvement?  
The objection was 608 and 404(b).  Ms. Webster, as an 
officer of the court, has stated that this doesn't have 
anything to do with impeachment, doesn't have anything to do 
with us calling him a liar.  I have some pause about that, 
given the three, four, five questions, whatever it was, about 
his truthfulness.  
Nevertheless, Ms. Webster says it's not about 
impeachment, so I won't sustain the objection on 608.  That 
lines up with 404(b) and propensity.  
So, Ms. Webster, if -- as you say, as to hearsay, you 
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said it's not offered for the truth, instead this is simply 
to, quote, show that he was protecting Gena Pyfrom-Foster.  
So, Ms. Chaiken, I don't think I can sustain on 608 
or 404(b) or hearsay, for that matter, given what Ms. Webster 
has said she's going to use this for, the -- protecting Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster.  
However, Ms. Chaiken, as you've noted, if this comes 
in this way, that arguably opens the door, and I believe it 
probably does, we'll just have to cross the bridge as to 
whether the door is open and how far and how wide it's open 
when we get there as far as this issue of protecting Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster.  So the objection is overruled.  
Let's bring out the jury, please.  
(The jury entered the courtroom at 12:54 p.m.) 
THE COURT:  Y'all can be seated.  
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, sorry about that 
break that turned into lunch.  But, again, I can't always 
anticipate issues that arise and how long I'm going to need to 
discuss them with counsel and research those issues.  So 
apologies for the long break.  Apologies from me for the long 
break.  
Ms. Webster, go ahead.  
The objection is overruled.
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you, Your Honor. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
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Q.
Agent Stites, I want to talk to you about some of the 
actions that you took during the course of your investigation.  
A.
Okay. 
Q.
I believe you got the IP addresses for different people; 
is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
You got the IP address for Darrell Thomas's residence? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Carla Jackson? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
John Gaines? 
A.
Which residence for John Gaines?  
Q.
Did you -- I mean, it's fine if you don't remember it.  
A.
I don't think so. 
Q.
Okay.  You did not get an IP address for the house where 
Teldrin Foster lived; is that correct? 
A.
No. 
Q.
You didn't get an IP address for the house where Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster lived; correct? 
A.
I don't recall if we have that or not. 
Q.
You subpoenaed e-mail addresses in this case? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you subpoenaed, for example, Darrell Thomas's e-mail 
addresses; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
You did not subpoena Teldrin Foster's e-mail's address 
teldrin_foster@yahoo.com; is that correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
You did not subpoena the e-mail address 
teldrin23@icloud.com; is that correct? 
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
You did not subpoena the IP address associated with those 
e-mails or the log-ins for those e-mails? 
A.
No, no.  
Q.
You did not seize any devices from the home of Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster; is that right?
A.
Correct.
Q.
And you were in her home when you went to interview her; 
is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you saw devices when you were there? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
A laptop and a desktop? 
A.
Saw a desktop upstairs and a laptop downstairs. 
Q.
So you didn't take any efforts to get those devices? 
A.
No. 
Q.
You didn't seize her phone? 
A.
No. 
Q.
I think in this case you executed two search warrants of 
homes.  Does that sound correct? 
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A.
Yes, that's correct. 
Q.
And one was for Jesika Blakely? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And one was for Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And that address was the 7200 Grandview Overlook; is that 
correct? 
A.
For Darrell Thomas, yes. 
Q.
Yes.  Okay.  
And can you look in the binder in front of you at 
Exhibits F15A through F15PP?  
A.
You said F15A through F15PP?  
Q.
PP.  Yes.  
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Do you recognize those photos? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you tell us what they are? 
A.
These are the search warrant photos for Darrell Thomas's 
residence. 
Q.
And were you there when these photos were taken? 
A.
I was. 
Q.
And do these appear to be true and accurate copies of the 
photos that were taken from that execution of that search 
warrant? 
A.
Yes, they do. 
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MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I move to admit F15A 
through F15PP. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Marshall?  
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  They're admitted. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can I have the Elmo, please.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:  
Q.
Can you tell us what's in this photo? 
A.
I believe this is the master bedroom bed with, it looks 
like, some gold chains and a firearm with a magazine and maybe 
one round. 
Q.
Okay.  And is this --
A.
And a holster. 
Q.
I'm sorry? 
A.
And a holster. 
Q.
And a holster.  
And is this the room that you believe that Darrell Thomas 
was occupying? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you tell us what's in F15B, please? 
A.
This is a picture of the garage.  And there is a 
purple -- I believe it's an Acura. 
Q.
Okay.  Thank you.  
Can you tell us what's in Exhibit F15E? 
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A.
This is a picture of that same garage from the front.  
And there's the purple Acura to the left and a Range Rover to 
the right. 
Q.
And did you seize both of these cars? 
A.
We seized the Range Rover.  That's the only one we had a 
seizure warrant for that was there. 
Q.
Okay.  And then can you tell me what's in F15F? 
A.
This is a bag of cash. 
Q.
Did you count this cash?  Do you know how much is in it? 
A.
We did count the cash.  I don't recall the exact amount, 
but it should be on my 302 if you've got that. 
Q.
Sure.  Is this all of it, or is this all of it 
displayed -- I'm sorry, I'm referring to F15K.  Is this all 
of -- is this the cash from that bag spread out on the counter 
or is this different cash? 
A.
I believe that's the cash from the bag.  And I don't know 
if that was one of many pictures or not. 
Q.
And what's in F15L? 
A.
A watch that's in a box. 
Q.
And is that a piece of jewelry that you seized from 
Darrell Thomas's house? 
A.
I believe we did seize this. 
Q.
Can you tell me what's shown in F15M? 
A.
This is a paper copy of a payroll spreadsheet for 
Bellator Phront Group for the -- it looks like the first 
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quarter of 2019. 
Q.
Okay.  That's one of the documents that was used in 
support of the loan applications? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you tell me what's in this picture, F15N? 
A.
It's a picture of nine rapid! PayCards that were found at 
the residence. 
Q.
Okay.  And so these cards, they weren't all issued in 
Darrell Thomas's name; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Can you show me what's in -- tell me what's in F15S? 
A.
Can I look in the book?  I want to see the picture.  
Q.
Yeah, of course.  
A.
This looks like a laptop bag with a phone.  And it looks 
like the receipt for the hotel Encore in Las Vegas, the hotel 
receipt. 
Q.
Okay.  And I'm going to show you what's in F15T.  And 
then we'll go -- maybe go back to that.  
Does F15T show you the Lenovo computer that we've 
discussed in court? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And so going back to F15S, you said that it 
showed -- and I recognize it's hard to see on this, but it's a 
receipt from Encore Las Vegas; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
And you're aware that Darrell Thomas traveled to 
Las Vegas shortly before the execution of this search warrant; 
is that right? 
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
During that time he was withdrawing a fair amount of 
money from the rapid! PayCards; is that correct? 
A.
Yes, I believe so. 
Q.
Okay.  And so this receipt from that trip was located -- 
was it located in the same bag as the Lenovo laptop or was it 
just around it? 
A.
This should have been a picture in place.  So based on 
this picture, I would say that it was inside the bag. 
Q.
Okay.  So this receipt from Las Vegas was found inside 
the bag with the Lenovo laptop? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then the phone that's in this picture, do you know if 
that's the one that was -- that Agent Hunter was able to get 
into, or is that the one that she hasn't been able to get 
into? 
A.
I don't know.  I'm not sure.  
Q.
Can you tell me what's in F15U? 
A.
It looks like a chain and then some coins to the right. 
Q.
And is there more jewelry shown in F15X? 
A.
Yeah.  I think that's the same jewelry that was on the 
bed.  It looks like a bracelet and a necklace and a watch. 
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Q.
And the watch.  Okay.  
And then F15AA shows a fair amount of cash.  Do you know 
if that's the same cash or if it was a different pile of cash? 
A.
I believe that's a different pile of cash. 
Q.
Okay.  And then I'm going to show you F15CC.  Is that a 
different box with cash in it? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
Do you know what this F15LL is? 
A.
It's a laptop, a Panasonic laptop. 
Q.
Is this one of the ones that Agent Hunter wasn't able to 
get into, or you're not sure?  It's okay.  
A.
I don't know if she got into it or not, but it wasn't 
applicable.  It was a business laptop I think for marking 
utilities.  It was -- it wasn't really a personal laptop.  I 
think it was a business laptop that was used in marking 
utilities in neighborhoods and things like that.  We weren't 
really sure what it was. 
Q.
Okay.  And then showing F15H, is this a different car 
that was also in Mr. Thomas's house? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And what sort of car is this? 
A.
I believe this was a Bentley. 
Q.
So there were no other search warrants associated with 
the residence of Mr. Foster; is that right?  Or no.  Sorry.  
Let me just be clear.
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There was no search warrant associated with the residence 
of Mr. Foster? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And none associated with the residence of Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster? 
A.
No. 
Q.
We talked a bit briefly about the -- the money in this 
case that was received; right?  We talked a little bit about 
that earlier? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  So we know that some of the money went to Bellator 
initially once it came in through the business owners? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And some of it went to Elite Executive? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And then some of it went to rapid! Pay? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Okay.  And then at other times in the conspiracy, did 
some of it go to a company called Kronos Capital Acquisitions? 
A.
I believe there was some money that got transferred to 
Kronos. 
Q.
And the same for Richland Properties; is that right? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
And all those companies, were they ultimately controlled 
by Darrell Thomas? 
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A.
Darrell had a hand in those companies as well. 
Q.
Okay.  And so just to be clear, Teldrin Foster had no 
control over those entities? 
A.
No, not that I'm aware of. 
Q.
Do you know how much Darrell -- how much money Darrell 
Thomas received through the PPP loan fraud? 
A.
How much got transferred to him?  
Q.
Yes.  
A.
I don't have a number on top of my head. 
Q.
Is it in the millions? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
More than 10 million? 
A.
I don't think a total of 10 million.  I don't think more 
than 10 million went to him.
Q.
Went to him.  Okay.  
A.
Or to his businesses or to the rapid! PayCards.  
Q.
And Darrell Thomas used a lot of money to buy a number of 
different items; is that right?  I can be more specific.  
A.
Please. 
Q.
He used it to buy a lot of jewelry; right? 
A.
He bought some jewelry. 
Q.
So that's what we saw in these pictures or some of it? 
A.
Yeah.  I don't know if it's that specific money from the 
PPP or if it was other money, but he did have jewelry with 
some receipts. 
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Q.
And he bought gold bars with the money? 
A.
We had heard that he had bought some gold bars, yes. 
Q.
Did he purchase land with the money? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do you know how many different properties he 
purchased? 
A.
I believe there were three. 
Q.
Do you know how much those properties are worth? 
A.
I don't recall. 
Q.
Was there any evidence that Teldrin Foster engaged in 
purchases like that? 
A.
No. 
Q.
There's no evidence that Teldrin Foster bought land? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Or expensive jewelry or gold bars? 
A.
No. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Ms. Holland, can we see Exhibit 3002, 
please.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
On direct you testified that this lists all the WhatsApp 
calls between Teldrin Foster and Darrell Thomas; is that 
right?  
A.
Yes.
Q.
It's a summary chart of those records? 
A.
Correct. 
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Q.
And so can you just tell me, do you see in the status 
column where it says "missed" and then "not answered," do you 
know what the meaning of -- what that -- why those are 
different? 
A.
I do not know. 
Q.
And if you look in the "duration" column, do you see that 
a fair number of these are zero? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  So that indicates that they did not actually 
communicate in those calls; is that correct? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
So when we scroll down and there are more pages -- 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can we just see, for example, page 2.  
You can keep going to page 3.  That's fine. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
So every time it says "missed" and there's a duration of 
zero, or "not answered," they didn't actually communicate; is 
that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
So the sheer number of entries on this document does not 
tell us every time they communicated; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
On direct I think that you said that Teldrin Foster and 
Darrell Thomas only could have been talking about the PPP 
fraud; is that right, or that's what you saw in your review of 
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the communications? 
A.
During the time frame of PPP, not prior to it.  But 
during the time frame it appeared that the communications were 
directed towards PPP fraud. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Ms. Holland, can we see Exhibit 2301.  
I think that's been admitted.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:  
Q.
Do you see on March 27th of 2020, this line that says, 
Dude want to know what all he need to do for business line to 
get a loan?  
A.
Yes.  
Q.
And then there's discussion about what he would need to 
get a loan, is that right, in the next -- in the information 
from Mr. Thomas in the next callout box? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So that -- that predates the PPP loan application, is 
that right, or when that information became available? 
A.
That's the date that the PPP program was announced 
through the CARES Act.  
Q.
And so does that appear to be about a PPP loan or other 
forms of business finance? 
A.
That looks like other forms of business finance. 
Q.
And then if you look at the next paragraph, it says, 10K 
per body.  We need SS card or social, no CPN and copy of 
license.  Send everything to tardean83@gmail.com.
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That's what that says, yes? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Did you get a search warrant for that e-mail address? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And we've already established you didn't get a search 
warrant for Mr. Foster's e-mail addresses; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
So we don't know if there were any e-mails sent in 
between Mr. Foster's e-mail address and this e-mail address? 
A.
Correct. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can we see Government's Exhibit 2305, 
please.  Can we go to the next page. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
That top callout there.  So this is, She said you need to 
get a EFIN and an EIN, PTIN for a tax business; is that right? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Do you know that an EFIN is? 
A.
I believe it's the employer identification number, just 
like an EIN, I believe.  I'm not positive what it stands for. 
Q.
The employer identification for what?  I think I 
missed --
A.
Identification number, like an EIN. 
Q.
And so they're referencing an EFIN and then an EIN; 
correct?  And then a PTIN; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
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Q.
For a tax business; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
You don't need those things to -- I mean, you might need 
an EIN, but do you need an EFIN or a PTIN to apply for a PPP 
loan? 
A.
I don't believe so. 
MS. WEBSTER:  I'm done with this exhibit.  Thank you.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
I think on direct we talked about -- or you talked about 
a Navy Federal account for Mr. Foster; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And that's the only bank account that you 
subpoenaed associated with Mr. Foster; is that right? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
And you know from your interview that Mr. Foster works as 
a barber; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And he's not a W-2 employee.  Does that sound 
right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
So he wouldn't be getting regular paychecks; is that 
right? 
A.
As a barber, probably not, no. 
Q.
And it may be more of a cash-based business? 
A.
Correct. 
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Q.
Do you remember on direct discussing a phone -- or a part 
of the interview with Mr. Foster where he says something to 
the -- that what they were involved in was for like $100,000?  
Does that sound familiar? 
A.
Can you put more context to that?  
Q.
Yeah.  
It's in Exhibit 2250E, and he sort of references 
something being for $100,000.  
A.
Can we pull up that exhibit?  
Q.
Sure.  
(Government Exhibit 2250E published.) 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
I might have pulled up the wrong clip.  So let me go back 
for a second. 
Were any of the PPP loans for $100,000? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And are you aware of the EIDL loans? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And are you -- can you tell us what an EIDL loan is? 
A.
They're emergency loans for companies that as they got 
into -- into the pandemic and the COVID, that they were losing 
money.  And so there was an opportunity to get a loan of 
approximately $10,000 to get them back. 
Q.
And that was an advance, right, the EIDL advance?  And 
then you could also get a loan for more money; is that right? 
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A.
Correct. 
Q.
You're aware Bellator Phront got an EIDL loan?  Yes?
A.
Yes, I believe so. 
Q.
For $150,000? 
A.
Something like that. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can we please see Government's 
Exhibit 2306.  And then can you scroll down to the next page.  
Is that the end of that?  That's at the end?  Keep scrolling, 
please.  Sorry.  Go back up to page 9, I think, or page 8.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
So can you see where he's saying -- or where the Teldrin 
Foster WhatsApp account is saying, So now we have to find the 
deductions? 
A.
Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Then can we go back up one more page to 
page 7, please. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
And then he's saying, The amount owed in taxes is about 
$40,000; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So that appears to be a conversation about a tax return; 
is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then I'm going to have you look at Exhibit F402, 
which might not be in front of you, so give me one second.  
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A.
Did you say 402?  
Q.
402, yes.  
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Have you seen this document before? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Can you tell me what it is, please? 
A.
It's an e-mail, the original e-mail message -- e-mail 
string.  But the original e-mail message was from Gena Pyfrom 
to Darrell Thomas.  And then it looks like Darrell then 
forwarded that e-mail from his Bellator account to -- back to 
Gena Pyfrom. 
Q.
Is this a true and accurate copy of what you received 
from a subpoena, or does it appear to be so? 
A.
It appears to be, yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, we move to admit F402, 
pursuant to a 902.11 certification.
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection.  
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge.  Sorry.  
THE COURT:  It's admitted. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Is this the e-mail that we were just referencing in F402? 
A.
Yes, it is. 
Q.
Who is this e-mail from? 
A.
From Gena Pyfrom. 
Q.
And it's to Darrell Thomas; is that correct? 
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A.
Yes.
Q.
Are they discussing a Form 1120? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do you know what a Form 1120 is? 
A.
Corporate tax return. 
Q.
So they're discussing the corporate tax return for 
Bellator Phront Group; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you look in the other binder that you were looking at 
before at Exhibit F21, please.  
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Can you tell me what this appears to be? 
A.
This is a -- a note from a phone that has a title of 
Completed Consulting Contracts, and then it lists 25 business 
names. 
Q.
And have you seen this document before? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Where did you see it? 
A.
I believe this was a note that Gena Pyfrom-Foster had 
sent to Darrell Thomas. 
Q.
And does this appear to be a true and accurate statement 
of what you reviewed in those messages? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, at this time I move to 
admit Exhibit F21. 
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MS. CHAIKEN:  We object to hearsay. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  All right.  What's your response?  
MS. WEBSTER:  I'm sorry, I didn't hear the objection. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Hearsay. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, it's not a statement, it's 
just a list.  So I don't believe that it is -- 
THE COURT:  Can you hand me a copy of the document --
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes. 
THE COURT:  -- please?  
Ms. Chaiken. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  It's offered to prove the truth of the 
matter asserted. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor -- 
THE COURT:  It seems like an assertion of what the 
list of completed consulting contracts is. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Alternatively, Your Honor, then we're 
going to move to admit it under the residual hearsay 
exception, Rule 807. 
THE COURT:  Expand. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, under Rule 807 you can 
admit documents that would otherwise constitute hearsay if 
there is sufficient reliability.  And we -- I can definitely 
establish the reliability of this document.  Also including 
the -- and I can establish those completed -- that list of 
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completed contracts was actually completed by Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  I'll let you try to do that, if 
you'd like.  
Do you have another copy I can hold on to while we -- 
MS. WEBSTER:  I can... 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, have you reviewed the WhatsApp 
communications between Gena Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And can you see in those messages and in the 
corresponding e-mails documents that were sent by Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster to Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Repeat the question?  I'm sorry.  
Q.
You're fine.  
Can you see in the messages between Gena Pyfrom-Foster 
and Darrell Thomas discussions about various companies for 
which loans were submitted for PPP loans? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, this is all hearsay as 
well. 
MS. WEBSTER:  I'm not offering the -- you can see the 
documents going back and forth.  Those aren't statements, Your 
Honor.  
MS. CHAIKEN:  She's offering it to prove the 
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trustworthiness of what was said in the messages to prove that 
that's actually what happened.  That's exactly what hearsay 
is.  
THE COURT:  I guess if you're seeking to go under 
807, was there notice of this?  
MS. WEBSTER:  There was, Your Honor.
THE COURT:  There was?
MS. WEBSTER:  There was.  
THE COURT:  Okay.  
MS. CHAIKEN:  There was notice.  We objected to it, 
but, yes, there was notice that they would try to use 807. 
THE COURT:  All right.  
MS. WEBSTER:  I didn't receive an objection. 
THE COURT:  I'm going to overrule to the extent she's 
trying to lay a foundation.  
So go ahead. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you, Your Honor. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
In the messages between Gena Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell 
Thomas, there are communications about various loans, is that 
right, or various companies? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And there are communications about companies for which 
there were later submitted PPP applications; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
Have you looked at F21 and are you familiar with the 
names of the companies on this document? 
A.
Yes, I am. 
Q.
And are you aware that documents, including 941 forms and 
payroll spreadsheets, for these documents -- for these 
companies were sent to Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is there any list or name on this list for which you 
don't believe a PPP loan application was submitted? 
A.
I'm not positive on some of them, whether they actually 
were submitted to a lender, but I believe most of them we saw 
in the documents and the messages. 
Q.
And then the documents were being prepared for the 
purpose of submitting to a lender? 
A.
That's what I'd assume. 
Q.
And have you reviewed the e-mails that were sent to 
Darrell Thomas's e-mail address? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And did you see in those e-mails the documents 
that we're referring to? 
A.
Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I think that we've laid a 
foundation to establish that these were -- that there's 
sufficient corroboration for the information in this document. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Chaiken. 
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MS. CHAIKEN:  Same objection, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  Overruled.  It's admitted.
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you, Your Honor.
May I have the copy back?  
THE COURT:  Sure.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
I want to go back over what this is now that the jury can 
see it, Agent Stites.  So just to be clear, this document was 
sent from Gena Pyfrom-Foster to Darrell Thomas; is that 
correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And it says, Completed Consulting Contracts at the top; 
is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then the first one is Bellator Phront Group; is that 
right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that is a company for whom -- for which a loan has 
been charged in this indictment; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is it also -- can you go through and identify the ones 
that are charged in this indictment? 
A.
Yes.  Number 1, Bellator Phront Group.  Number 4, 
D. Parker Holdings, Inc.  Number 5, All Star Room and Board.  
Number 9, Continuing Success.  Number 10, ML Exotic Customs.  
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Number 13, Advertising and Then Some.  
Do you want to scroll down?  
Number 23, Infinite Education. 
Q.
Can you see 25? 
A.
Number 25 is Bellevie Corp. 
Q.
Are any of these for documents or loans charged in the 
indictment? 
A.
Number 41, Mikies Auto & Tire, LLC.  
Q.
To your knowledge, were there legitimate consulting 
services provided for these companies? 
A.
No. 
Q.
In the other binder that had the e-mails, can you please 
look at F405 and F406.
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Do you recognize these documents? 
A.
I do. 
Q.
And what are they? 
A.
E-mail chains.  The first message is from Jesika Blakely 
to Darrell Thomas.  And then that message is forwarded from 
Darrell Thomas to teldrin23@icloud. 
Q.
And that's for 405 and 406; is that right? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I'm -- 
BY MS. WEBSTER:  
Q.
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Google? 
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Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I'd move to admit F405 and 
406 pursuant to the 902.11 certification. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  They're admitted. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Is this the first -- this is F405.  And this is an e-mail 
from Darrell Thomas to teldrin23@icloud.com; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
He's sending information about TY Trucking, Securus 
Brothers and Transportation Management; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then if we go back to F21, can you see those 
companies on this list? 
A.
I see Securus. 
Q.
You see TY Trucking; correct? 
A.
Yes, I see TY Trucking.  
Q.
And --
A.
And then Securus Brot Trust.  
Q.
Securus?  
A.
Yeah.  S-E-C-U-R-U-S, Brot, B-R-O-T, and then Trust.  
Q.
And if we go to 406, do you see which loans this is 
referring to, or which companies? 
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360 Global Logistics, Da Diamond Shines, Robins Trading 
and Driving Under the Influence (sic). 
Q.
Going back to F21, do you see Driving Under Intelligence? 
A.
I'm sorry, Intelligence.  
THE COURT:  Could you go to the microphone, please.  
I'm having trouble hearing you when you're over there. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes.
THE COURT:  Thank you.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
So just to be clear, F406 refers to Driving Under 
Intelligence; right?
A.
Intelligence, sorry. 
Q.
And then that is what's on the F21; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do you see the Diamond Shines as well on this list?  
I think it's number 38.  
A.
Yes, I see that. 
Q.
Can you look at Exhibits F450 and 451, please.  Or, 
actually, if you just look at F451, that would be fine.
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Do you recognize this document? 
A.
I do. 
Q.
Is this an e-mail that you received in response to the 
subpoena to Google? 
A.
Yes.
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MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I move to admit that 
pursuant to the Rule 902.11 certification as well. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection. 
THE COURT:  It's admitted. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Do you see that this is the same pattern that -- it's an 
e-mail from Darrell Thomas to teldrin23@icloud.com? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it refers to 346 Unlimited? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do you see the date of that e-mail? 
A.
May 7th, 2020. 
Q.
Going back to F21.  Can you tell me what's listed as 
number 2? 
A.
346 Unlimited. 
Q.
So is that the same company that's referenced in F451? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you recall testifying on direct that in his statement 
Mr. Foster had told Ms. Pyfrom-Foster -- or had told you that 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster had given him the formula for the payroll 
spreadsheets? 
A.
Had -- yeah, had told him how the formulas should work in 
that spreadsheet. 
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Q.
And I think you were asked if that was consistent with 
what the e-mail showed, that she had prepared the payroll 
spreadsheet -- or she had provided a formula; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
But just to be clear, that's not all that she did; right? 
A.
On this payroll spreadsheet?  
Q.
Or in the sort of overarching conspiracy, is that all 
that she did? 
A.
No. 
Q.
So she -- she created the 941s; is that right? 
A.
She created some of the 941s. 
Q.
And she at one point provided a template for a fake bank 
account statement; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And she was communicating, as we indicated earlier, 
extensively with Darrell Thomas; is that right? 
A.
Through WhatsApp and phone calls, yes. 
Q.
And so on direct I think there were references that 
Teldrin Foster sent the e-mails from his e-mail addresses; 
right?  And that Darrell Thomas sent the e-mails from his 
e-mail addresses; right? 
A.
Can you restate that?  I got lost in the question. 
Q.
Sure.  
So on direct when you were describing the e-mails that 
were sent, right, I think that the phrasing that was used was, 
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And on this date, for example, Teldrin Foster sent this 
e-mail; is that right? 
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Okay. 
Q.
But we don't know who was actually sending the e-mails; 
isn't that right? 
A.
We know contextually based on the combination of the 
WhatsApp messages with the e-mails. 
Q.
Okay.  Were you there when the e-mails were being 
written? 
A.
Me personally?  
Q.
Yes.  
A.
No. 
Q.
Okay.  Were you there when they were sent? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Were you there when the WhatsApp messages were sent? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Were you there when they were received? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Were you there when they had conversations? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Okay.  So you don't know who was actually behind the 
keyboard; isn't that right? 
A.
I know based on the prior messaging in WhatsApp with 
Teldrin and Darrell that that continued throughout the PPP 
time frame, and that those WhatsApp messages tie to the 
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e-mails that were sent using initially with the 
teldrin23@icloud.com and the Yahoo, and then eventually was 
primarily the Teldrin23 iCloud. 
Q.
You weren't there, right, when the WhatsApp messages were 
sent? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
You don't know which phone they were in? 
A.
I don't know which phone they were in. 
Q.
You don't know who actually typed into whatever device 
sent them? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And the same goes for the e-mails? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
In the messages between Gena Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell 
Thomas, they discuss money; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And they discuss how much money would be paid to Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And so on direct or -- you're familiar with the deposit 
into the Pyfrom Exclusive Consulting account that is the basis 
of Count 59 in this indictment; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And so I think on direct you played -- or testified about 
a clip from Mr. Foster's interview where he -- where you 
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discuss that deposit; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And he said that he had access to Gena's account; is that 
right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
But you know that Gena set up the Pyfrom Exclusive 
Consulting account the day before this deposit was received; 
is that right? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
On June 10th of 2020? 
A.
Sounds right. 
Q.
And she actually went into a Bank of America, right, to 
set up that account? 
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Is that right? 
A.
I don't know if she went into the bank to set it up or 
how she did it, but I think the date is correct. 
Q.
Okay.  And are you aware through your investigation that 
she had to go in to present an identification? 
A.
I would assume that she would have to do that. 
Q.
I'm going to show you what I've marked as Exhibits F45 
and F46.  
MR. MARSHALL:  What was the second one?  
MS. WEBSTER:  F46.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Thank you. 
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BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Have you seen these documents before? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
And where do you believe you've seen them? 
A.
I'm assuming the Bank of America, this -- the first 
document, F45, is from the Bank of America subpoena response.  
Q.
Let me go back for a second.  
Do you recall in the messages between Darrell Thomas and 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster that they exchanged messages about the 
Pyfrom Exclusive Consulting account? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do Exhibits F45 and F46 look like images that were 
exchanged between those two people? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do they appear to be true and accurate copies of the 
images that were exchanged between Gena Pyfrom-Foster and 
Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I move to admit F45 and 
F46.
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Judge, can I look at them?  I don't 
have them in my... 
MS. WEBSTER:  Sorry.  
THE COURT:  Sure.  
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MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  They're admitted. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Can you tell me what F45 is? 
A.
Bank of America account summary information for business 
Pyfrom Exclusive Consulting. 
Q.
And so this message or this image was sent from Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster to Darrell Thomas; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it is for the Pyfrom Exclusive Consulting account; is 
that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then if we turn to F46, what is this? 
A.
A deposit slip. 
Q.
And is it a deposit slip that Darrell Thomas sent to Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster on June 11th of 2020? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
So that reflects the $10,560 that was deposited into Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster's account on June 11th of 2020; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And this deposit is the basis for Count 59; is that 
right? 
A.
I don't remember the account, but I'm assuming that's the 
correct account. 
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Q.
Okay.  That's the basis for the money laundering charge 
against Mr. Foster; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And then you have reviewed these messages; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And there was no discussion of this money being for 
Teldrin Foster? 
A.
In those messages, no. 
Q.
Right.  There was no discussion where Darrell tells Gena 
that he's depositing this money for her to give to Teldrin? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Gena didn't say, I'm going to make sure I get Teldrin 
this money? 
A.
She didn't say that. 
Q.
And so when they were exchanging pictures and this 
deposit information, there was no discussion about Teldrin 
Foster at all having access to these funds? 
A.
I can't remember if it said in the messages whether or 
not he got that money. 
Q.
Would it refresh your recollection to see the messages? 
A.
Sure. 
Q.
Okay.  It starts on page 61 of those messages.
Is your recollection refreshed? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do they discuss Teldrin Foster having access to this 
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money? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Thank you.  
This deposit is not the only time that Darrell Thomas 
paid Gena money; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
I'm going to show you what I have marked as Defendant's 
Exhibit 47, 49 and 50.  
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Have you seen these documents? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And are these images that were also sent between Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do they appear to be true and accurate copies of 
images that were exchanged between these two people? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I move to admit F47, 49 
and 450 -- or sorry.  F47, F49 and F50. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, F49 and F50 are hearsay, we 
object. 
THE COURT:  Can you pass those up, please?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I can get them in -- I 
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mean, I can get in the same information another way.  That's 
fine. 
THE COURT:  Very well.  
So withdrawn on 49 and 50, and 47 is admitted.  Was 
it 47, 49 and 50 that you were looking to admit?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  47 is admitted.  49 and 50 
are withdrawn, Ms. Lee.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Judge, I'd like to see 47.  It's not 
in my folder. 
THE COURT:  Sorry, I thought you would have spoken up 
if you'd had an objection, Mr. Marshall. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Just waiting for the Court to review.  
No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  47 is admitted. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Can you see what this is, Agent Stites? 
A.
That looks like a handful of cash or paper. 
Q.
Okay.  And that is an image that Darrell Thomas sent to 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And there were discussions about getting this to her; is 
that right? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
And there was no discussion about making sure that 
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Teldrin Foster had access to that money either; correct? 
A.
No. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can we see Government's Exhibit 1146 at 
page 6.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
This is a bank statement from Elite Executive Services; 
is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And on this page you can see a Cash App to someone listed 
as Teldrin on May 22nd of 2020; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  Did you ever get the Cash App records for that 
account? 
A.
No. 
Q.
So we don't know where that money actually went to; is 
that correct? 
A.
We know that it went to a Cash App in the name of 
Teldrin. 
Q.
Yes, but we don't know if that was associated with a bank 
account? 
A.
No. 
Q.
We don't know who had access to the Cash App account? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Can you look in your binder at Exhibits F22A through M, 
or through I specifically.  
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Okay. 
Q.
Have you seen these documents before? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you tell me what they appear to be? 
A.
WhatsApp messages from Gena. 
Q.
And so the recipient would be Darrell Thomas; is that 
right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is that for all of F22A through I? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do those appear to be fair and accurate copies of those 
messages? 
A.
Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I'm also going to move to 
admit these pursuant to the residual clause in Rule 807.  And 
it was also noticed to the government.  
THE COURT:  Can you pass me a copy up so I can look 
at them, please?
Ms. Chaiken, is there an objection to these?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes, Your Honor.  
THE COURT:  I'm sorry?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes, Your Honor.  This is not the type 
of evidence that's admissible under Rule 807.  And given the 
various statements that the defense has made about 
Ms. Pyfrom-Foster, they are not sufficient guarantees of 
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trustworthiness. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster, what's your response to 
that?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, these messages line up 
directly with e-mails that were sent from Mr. Foster's e-mail 
account, and so they will show that the images -- that the 
statements were sent, which are that the information was sent, 
which is all the statements that are in Exhibits F22A through 
I say -- so the exhibits from the WhatsApp account say this 
document was sent, and then we have the e-mails that 
correspond in time that confirm that those documents were 
sent.  
And so that is the reliable guarantee of 
trustworthiness, not just the word of Ms. Pyfrom-Foster that 
they were sent.  And I think that we can establish that.  
THE COURT:  Ms. Chaiken, do you question whether or 
not she can line that up?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  I just don't think this is the type of 
evidence that's subject to 807.  She is offering the messages 
for the truth of the matter asserted and it's circular to say 
that they line up because that assumes that what's in the 
messages is true. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Defendant Jackson has no objection, 
Judge, just to let you know. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Well, I don't think 807's a 
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truth of the matter issue, is it, Ms. Chaiken?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  It is, Your Honor.  It's an exception 
for matters that are offered for the truth of the matter 
asserted that otherwise have sufficient guarantees of 
trustworthiness but don't fall within a recognized hearsay 
exception. 
THE COURT:  That's what I'm saying.  I mean, I think 
I said it inartfully, though.  
All right, Ms. Webster.  Let's see if you can line it 
up.  It sounds like Ms. Chaiken doesn't consent to that.
How much longer do you think you're going to have 
with this witness before we turn to Mr. Marshall's 
cross-examination, if he has any?  
MS. WEBSTER:  This process, lining this up, could 
take a little while, so -- 
THE COURT:  Other than that, putting that aside, how 
much more do you have?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Less than half an hour. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  Go ahead. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, we'll just withdraw the 
objection.  We don't --   
THE COURT:  Very well.  They're admitted.  
Mr. Marshall, did you have any objection?  I assumed 
not?  
MR. MARSHALL:  No, Your Honor. 
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THE COURT:  All right.  They're admitted, Ms. Lee.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, can you look at F22A for me, please.
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And is this a message that says, Bout to send you the 
e-mail ones I did today? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And was this sent on June 29th, 2020, at 2:42 a.m. 
UTC time?  
A.
UTC time, so subtract. 
Q.
Which would make it sent at what time? 
A.
Boy.  10:42 p.m. on the 28th. 
Q.
Okay.  Great.  
So can you please turn -- or see if the binder that has 
Exhibits F337 and F338 are --
A.
This top binder?  Is this the big one?  
Q.
I'll hand you a redacted version of F337, which I've 
discussed with the government and with Mr. Marshall in 
advance.  
A.
Did you want me to look through each of these or -- 
Q.
Yes, each of those exhibits.
Have you had a chance to look through those documents? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
What do they appear to be? 
A.
Well, it starts with an e-mail from Teldrin Foster iCloud 
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to Darrell Thomas on June 28th, 2020, at 11:00 p.m.  And it's 
some attachments of some 941 -- Form 941s for 2019.  
Q.
Okay.  And was this received in response to your subpoena 
to GoDaddy? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I'd move to admit F337 
pursuant to the 902.11 certification. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection. 
THE COURT:  Admitted.
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
So, again, F22A is a message where Ms. Foster says -- 
Ms. Pyfrom-Foster says, Bout to send you the e-mails I 
did today; correct?  
(Clarification from the court reporter.)
BY MS. WEBSTER:  
Q.
Bout to send you the e-mail ones I did today?  Yes? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that we said was at -- on June 28th at 10:42; is that 
correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And then this e-mail was sent at 11:00 on 
June 28th of 2020; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
And this e-mail was sent from teldrin23@icloud.com; 
correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Not from the Yahoo account; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And then the exhibits are the attachments to that e-mail.  
I'm showing F337A were stamped versions of the 941s; is that 
correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Is that true for all four of the exhibits that were 
submitted with that e-mail? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Now, if you turn in the binder to F336, please.
A.
Yes. 
Q.
You're looking at F336? 
A.
Oh. 
Q.
I think that's in the bigger binder.  I'm sorry, I think 
I told you the wrong one.  I think it's F338.  
A.
This one starts at F355.  Do you have another binder?  
Q.
We're looking for F338.  
A.
This one starts at F355.
Okay. 
Q.
Okay.  And do you recognize these documents? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Are these documents that you received in response to your 
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subpoena to GoDaddy? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
GoDaddy? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do they appear to be fair and accurate copies of what 
you received? 
A.
Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  I move to admit Exhibits F338 and sub 
exhibits into evidence. 
MR. KAUSHAL:  Ms. Webster, did you say 338 or are we 
looking at 336?  
MS. WEBSTER:  338. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  They're admitted. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
So, again, going back to F22A, that was sent on June 28th 
at 10:42; correct?  And she says, I'm about to send you the 
ones, plural, that I did today?
A.
22B?  
Q.
22A.  It's on the screen.  
A.
Oh, the same one?  
Q.
The same one.  
A.
Okay.  Yes. 
Q.
Yes.  Okay.  
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And then F338 is sent from the teldrin23@icloud account; 
correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Not the Yahoo account? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And it's sent on June 28th at 11:07 p.m.; is that 
correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it's sent from the Teldrin23 iCloud account to 
Darrell Thomas at Bellator Phront Group; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it has the documents for a company Driving Under 
Intelligence; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And that was on the list that we looked at earlier; is 
that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And if you look at the attachments, these are 941s; 
correct, and they're stamped? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is that true for all four attachments that come with 
Exhibit -- or with F338?
A.
Yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Ms. Holland, can we see Government 
Exhibit 2400, please.  
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BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Do you remember this exhibit, Agent Stites? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that's an e-mail from teldrin23@icloud.com; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
To Darrell Thomas; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
On April the 1st at -- of 2020; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that's right after -- right after midnight? 
A.
12:08 a.m. 
Q.
Okay.  And what information was sent in the attachment, 
do you recall? 
A.
The application, borrower application, a blank one. 
Q.
So it was information about the PPP loans; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you asked Mr. Foster about this in his statement or 
in his interview; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
That this e-mail had been sent from his account? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And are you familiar with an individual named Aleem 
Rashid? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is that someone who is an associate of Darrell Thomas? 
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Yes. 
Q.
And he was a realtor; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
But he was also involved in some of the loans; is that 
correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And when you downloaded Mr. Thomas's phone, there were 
messages or WhatsApp messages between Darrell Thomas and Aleem 
Rashid; is that correct? 
A.
I believe so. 
Q.
And you reviewed those messages; is that right? 
A.
I've been through them.  I haven't reviewed them 
recently. 
Q.
You haven't reviewed them? 
A.
Recently. 
Q.
Recently.  
But when you got into Mr. Thomas's phone, right, you 
would have reviewed those; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Because at that point you're trying to learn everything 
you can about the investigation; is that right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And you would have taken action based on information that 
you saw in these messages, is that correct, potentially if it 
was relevant? 
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A.
Potentially. 
Q.
I'm going to show you what I've marked as -- 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster, I've been waiting to see if 
maybe we could get this one witness's cross-examination done 
before the break, but it looks like we're pushing an hour and 
40 minutes at this point that Ms. Coudriet's been typing.  So 
we're going to go ahead and break now.  
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you're reminded of 
your instructions for breaks.  We'll take about a ten-minute 
break. 
And, Ms. Webster, are we close?  
MS. WEBSTER:  I believe so, Your Honor, yeah.  Yes.  
I think Mr. Marshall has already done his cross-examination 
of -- 
MR. MARSHALL:  Judge, I did my cross, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  You're not going to have anything else 
other than after redirect?  
MR. MARSHALL:  After redirect, Judge. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Very well.  
(After a recess was taken at 2:27 p.m., the 
proceedings continued at 2:47 p.m. as follows:) 
THE COURT:  Please bring out the jury. 
(The jury entered the courtroom at 2:48 p.m.) 
THE COURT:  Y'all can be seated.  Thank you.  
Ms. Webster, you may proceed. 
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MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you, Your Honor. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, I want to go back to Government's 
Exhibit 2400.  
So, again, this is an e-mail that the government 
admitted; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it's from the teldrin23@icloud account; right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
On April the 1st of 2020; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  And so the suggestion is that Teldrin Foster sent 
this e-mail to Darrell Thomas; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And so we were talking before the break about getting 
access to Darrell Thomas's phone; is that correct? 
A.
Yes.  And it was about two years after we got these 
e-mails. 
Q.
Right.  And so -- but if there was information in the 
phone that would cause you to reevaluate or reexamine some of 
the information that you believed, would you have done that? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So if there's information in the phone that contradicts 
information or your beliefs about Teldrin Foster's 
involvement, right, then you would have reexamined that; is 
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that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So I believe -- I'm showing you what I've marked as 
Defendant's Exhibit F51.  I want you to take a look at that 
and tell me when you're ready.
Do these appear to be messages between Aleem Rashid and 
Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And are these messages that you reviewed when you -- 
during your investigation? 
A.
I don't recall them, but I would have gone through the 
phone, yes. 
Q.
Okay.  So you might not recall these messages 
specifically, but you recall that they are messages between 
Darrell Thomas and Aleem Rashid on Darrell Thomas's phone? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you would have reviewed those; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you don't have any reason to dispute that these 
actually came from the phone? 
A.
No. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I move to admit Defendant's 
Exhibit F51. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Objection, Your Honor.  It's rank 
hearsay. 
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MR. MARSHALL:  No objection from Ms. Jackson. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Ms. Webster, I think the 
objection was -- I think there was an adjective, but I think 
the sum and substance of it was that it was hearsay?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  What's your response to that?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, it's not offered for     
the truth of the matter but to show the effect on the 
investigation because I believe that the message shows that 
Mr. Foster was not responsible for this e-mail from April 1st 
of 2020.  And even after that message was reviewed, no -- 
there was no accounting for the contradictory information 
during the investigation. 
THE COURT:  All right.  It may be that Ms. Chaiken 
doesn't have issue with those questions.  She had an issue 
with admitting the document, so go ahead. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  And saying what it said. 
THE COURT:  I understand.
Go ahead, Ms. Webster. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Okay.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, did you review -- or I believe we 
established you would have reviewed Exhibit F51 in the course 
of your investigation; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
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And there's information, particularly I believe at the 
top of page 2, that suggests that Mr. Foster was not the one 
that submitted the e-mail that's in Government's Exhibit -- 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, objection.  That's hearsay. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster, I thought where you were 
going was that you wanted to ask him if he did anything based 
on this.  Do you want to just give the -- 
MS. WEBSTER:  I'm sorry?  
THE COURT:  I thought you wanted to ask him if he did 
anything based on this versus -- you know, the objection was 
hearsay.  And then instead of the document you were just going 
to -- it looked like you were maybe just quoting the document, 
which would be the same issue Ms. Chaiken had.  So go ahead if 
you want to ask him if it had an effect, if you want to ask 
him generally what it was about. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Okay.  You said ask him generally what 
this document is about; correct?  
THE COURT:  Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Okay.  
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, can you tell me generally what this 
document is about? 
A.
It's basically a conversation between Aleem Rashid and 
Darrell Thomas over WhatsApp talking about the PPP -- it 
appears to be the PPP program. 
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And was there information in that that Mr. Thomas had 
already received that information? 
A.
Maybe not that specific information, but it appears that 
he had received it from somebody else as well.  
Q.
Okay.  And based on this conversation did you take any 
steps to reevaluate Mr. Foster's involvement? 
A.
No.  We had already interviewed Mr. Foster and we had 
already had his admissions to the activities that he was 
involved in. 
Q.
But a big part of the case against Mr. Foster, would you 
agree with me, are the e-mails that have been -- that were 
sent from the teldrin23@icloud.com account? 
A.
Yes.  And also from the Yahoo account earlier on. 
Q.
Yes.  Yes.  But also specifically the 
teldrin23@icloud.com account, yes?  That was a big part of the 
case? 
A.
Sure. 
Q.
Okay.  Not the -- and I'm not saying it's the only part 
of the case, but a part of it.  
A.
Sure. 
Q.
Okay.  And so when you had information suggesting that 
other people might have had access to the teldrin23@icloud.com 
account, you did not reconsider Mr. Foster's involvement? 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Objection.  Your Honor, I'm going to 
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back-door in what the message says.  It's all hearsay. 
THE COURT:  Overruled.  I think that was about it, 
wasn't it, Ms. Webster?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Well, Your Honor, now that I've laid 
the foundation about the effect on the investigation, I would 
like to admit the statement to show the effect, or lack 
thereof, on the investigation. 
THE COURT:  I think we -- I think this is the same 
road we were down earlier.  
Ms. Chaiken, do you want to state your objection more 
thoroughly?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, it's offered to prove the 
truth of the matter asserted in the statement and to prove 
effect on the investigation or lack of effect on the 
investigation.  You don't need to admit the statement itself, 
especially if it didn't have an effect on the investigation. 
THE COURT:  Anything else, Ms. Webster?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, I can't argue to the jury 
unless the content -- that there should have been an effect on 
the investigation without the information in evidence, so...  
THE COURT:  All right.  Well, I thought that's what 
you just were doing, is going down effect on the listener and 
went that route instead of trying to admit the document.  But 
you still want to admit the document?  
MS. WEBSTER:  I am not necessarily -- I would like to 
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admit the document, but if you're not going to let me admit 
the document, I would like to admit the statement.  And I feel 
like I've alluded to the statement, but I would like to elicit 
from the agent what the statement is.  
THE COURT:  Ms. Chaiken, the objection is the 
statement is hearsay?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes.  It's offered for the truth of the 
matter asserted. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Sustained. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, you're aware through the course of your 
investigation that, as we've discussed, Gena Pyfrom-Foster and 
Darrell Thomas were working together to prepare PPP loan 
applications; is that correct? 
A.
I'm aware that Gena Pyfrom-Foster, Teldrin Foster and 
Darrell Thomas were working together to prepare PPP loan 
documentation. 
Q.
Okay.  Are you telling me that there is -- that you did 
not learn during your investigation that there were efforts to 
keep Mr. Foster from knowing about Darrell Thomas and Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster's involvement? 
A.
I think there were some aspects of what Ms. Pyfrom-Foster 
was involved in with Darrell that they were trying to keep 
from Teldrin but -- 
Q.
Okay.  That's the question.  All right.
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Okay.  
Q.
There are -- 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, can the witness finish the 
answer?  
THE COURT:  Yes. 
Go ahead, Agent Stites. 
THE WITNESS:  Oh.  But we also believe that they also 
worked together on many aspects of creating the documents that 
were prepared for the PPP loans. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:  
Q.
Okay.  I understand that you think that they all worked 
together, okay.  I am only asking you if there was evidence 
during your investigation that Darrell Thomas and Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster were concealing their communications and Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster's activity from Teldrin Foster? 
A.
I don't recall any specifics. 
Q.
So you don't -- you don't recall any messages from Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster saying, I don't want him to know I talked to 
you? 
A.
Okay.  I do remember something along that line. 
Q.
Do you recall messages where Gena Pyfrom-Foster says, He 
came to the house and I stopped working at that point? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that she warned Darrell Thomas when Teldrin would be 
at home? 
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Okay. 
Q.
Do you recall those? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And when there was a delivery of money or some document 
or some item, she told Darrell Thomas to leave that in a 
mailbox, that's -- 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Objection, Your Honor.  This is all 
hearsay again.  
MS. WEBSTER:  That's not a statement offered for the 
truth of the matter; right?  Leave something in the mailbox is 
not a statement. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Chaiken. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, they're all statements 
about what Gena Pyfrom-Foster said to Darrell Thomas. 
THE COURT:  Sustained. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, you've been the case agent on this case 
since the beginning? 
A.
I was the case agent to start and then there's been other 
case agents that have jumped on the case as well. 
Q.
But you've been here from the very beginning? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And so you were involved in conducting initial 
interviews? 
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Yes.
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Q.
Okay.  And as we know, there are multiple loans charged 
in the indictment; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And the first one was from Bellator Phront Group in April 
of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And the last loan in the indictment was Mikies Auto & 
Tire, and that was applied for on August 10th of 2020? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And so your investigation, I believe you testified 
earlier, began actually all the way back in April? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And in -- I think we established that Mr. Thomas was 
indicted on August the 4th of 2020; is that right? 
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
And at that time Teldrin Foster was not indicted; is that 
correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
But the investigation obviously continued after Darrell 
Thomas's indictment; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you continued gathering documents and e-mails and 
interviewing witnesses? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
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Correct. 
Q.
You interviewed Teldrin Foster on December 10th of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And in March of 2021, that's when Mr. Foster received a 
target letter? 
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I think it was February of '21. 
Q.
Or February, okay.  But in spring of 2021? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And in August of 2021 is when he was indicted; is that 
right? 
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Yes.
Q.
But your investigation obviously still continued; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you continued to gather more information? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you got access to Darrell Thomas's cellphone in May 
of 2022; correct?  
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
And that's when you got access to his WhatsApp messages 
for the first time? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And in those messages you discovered proof of Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster's involvement? 
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between Gena and Darrell. 
Q.
That's when you first saw those direct communications; 
correct? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And there were actually 1,800 messages exchanged between 
them; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And they began on June 6th of 2020 and ended on or about 
August 4th of 2020? 
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Sounds right. 
Q.
And in less than two months they exchanged more messages 
than Mr. Foster and Darrell Thomas exchanged in more than a 
year; is that correct? 
A.
I believe that's accurate for the WhatsApp messages. 
Q.
You believe that's accurate? 
A.
For WhatsApp. 
Q.
For WhatsApp, okay.  
And people who were charged in this case, like 
Mr. Foster, they would not have had access to Darrell Thomas's 
WhatsApp messages before you did; is that right? 
A.
True. 
Q.
And so you broke into the phone -- or the FBI broke into 
the phone in May of 2022 and eventually that was then 
disclosed to defendants in this case; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
And so that would have been the first time for many to 
actually understand the full depth of communications that 
Darrell Thomas had with other people; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So that may well have been the first time that Teldrin 
Foster learned of all the communications with Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster potentially? 
A.
Potentially. 
Q.
And even after you received all this information about 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster's involvement, right, to your knowledge no 
charges against Mr. Foster have changed; is that right? 
A.
I don't believe so. 
Q.
So he faces charges for all of the loans charged in the 
indictment; is that right? 
A.
Correct.  
Q.
And he still faces charges -- the one count of money 
laundering; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that's specifically for the money deposited into Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster's Pyfrom Exclusive Consulting bank account? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So despite the new messages, nothing in terms of the 
charges that he's facing has changed for Mr. Foster; is that 
right? 
A.
Correct. 
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MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, may I have one moment?  
THE COURT:  Certainly. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you.  
Your Honor, during a break Ms. Lee indicated that 
F40A through E, the clips from the statement on the jump 
drive, had not been formally admitted, so I would just like to 
clarify that or move to admit them. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  No objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  They're admitted.  
MS. WEBSTER:  At this time, we have no further 
questions for Agent Stites.  
THE COURT:  All right.  Any redirect?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes, Your Honor.  May I have one 
moment, please?  
THE COURT:  Sure.  
REDIRECT EXAMINATION 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Good afternoon, Agent Stites.  
A.
Good afternoon. 
Q.
Do you recall being asked questions about some names that 
were on Bellator Phront company documents like Kevin James and 
Brenda Miller? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And those were names that Darrell Thomas put there who 
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were not actually involved with Bellator Phront Group? 
A.
Yes.  Correct. 
Q.
Did you in your investigation find any evidence of 
hundreds of e-mails between Brenda Miller or Kevin James and 
Darrell Thomas? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Did you find hundreds of WhatsApp messages between them? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Did you find any evidence that Darrell Thomas had hacked 
into Brenda Miller's e-mail address to make it look like she 
was involved in Bellator Phront Group? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Same thing for Kevin James? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Did you find any evidence that he had hacked into their 
WhatsApp accounts? 
A.
No. 
Q.
They were just names that he put on a piece of paper? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And were you tricked by those names on the piece of paper 
into thinking that those people had anything to do with PPP 
loan fraud? 
A.
No. 
Q.
In your investigation, did you find any evidence that 
Darrell Thomas ever hacked into anyone's e-mail account? 
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A.
No. 
Q.
Did you have Darrell Thomas's cellphone? 
A.
We did. 
Q.
Was Teldrin Foster's Yahoo account loaded on to that 
cellphone? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Was his iCloud account loaded on to that cellphone? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Was Teldrin Foster's WhatsApp account loaded on to that 
cellphone? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Did Darrell Thomas have any notes or any references in 
his cellphone to any of Teldrin Foster's passwords or user 
names or log-in information for any of his information? 
A.
I didn't see any. 
Q.
Did he ever send that information to anyone else? 
A.
No. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you please publish 2305.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
So this is a WhatsApp conversation we looked at a few 
days ago between Darrell Thomas and Teldrin Foster; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So if Darrell Thomas was controlling this -- if Darrell 
Thomas was controlling Teldrin Foster's WhatsApp account, who 
are the two parties to this conversation? 
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A.
If Darrell Thomas was controlling it?  
Q.
Yes.  If Darrell Thomas was using Teldrin Foster's 
WhatsApp account.  
A.
Then it would be between Darrell Thomas and Darrell 
Thomas. 
Q.
And would this conversation incriminate Teldrin Foster? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Well, would it -- given that Teldrin's name is on it, 
would this conversation suggest that Teldrin Foster was part 
of it? 
A.
Yes.  Yes.  
Q.
Would it also incriminate Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
If Darrell Thomas had access to Teldrin Foster's WhatsApp 
account, would Darrell Thomas need to WhatsApp himself? 
A.
I wouldn't think so.  
Q.
Now, what if Gena Pyfrom-Foster was the one controlling 
this WhatsApp account, then this would be a conversation 
between Gena Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And looking at that text message where it says, LOL, I 
think I have got her to do everything, the payroll taxes and 
find the loans.
Do you see that? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
Would that be Gena Pyfrom-Foster incriminating herself? 
A.
Yes.
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And later on in this exhibit was there a specific 
reference to Gena saying, Send Gena your business address? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you go to 2345, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
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Is this the beginning of the WhatsApp conversation 
between Gena Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell Thomas? 
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Yes, it is. 
Q.
And based on this string of WhatsApps, did you determine 
that Gena Pyfrom-Foster was, in fact, involved in the PPP loan 
fraud? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And if Gena Pyfrom-Foster had access to Teldrin Foster's 
WhatsApp account, would it make sense for her to then all of a 
sudden start using her own WhatsApp account? 
A.
No, that wouldn't make sense. 
Q.
Because this WhatsApp string incriminated Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster, didn't it?  
A.
Yes, it did. 
Q.
And after Gena Pyfrom-Foster started talking to Darrell 
Thomas, the Teldrin Foster WhatsApp continued to be used? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And we looked at a lot of those messages on Thursday or 
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Wednesday?  Thursday? 
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Some day.  One of the days. 
Q.
Okay.  And a lot of those WhatsApp messages that we 
looked at where there would be a WhatsApp message to Teldrin 
Foster and then the iCloud account would send Darrell Thomas 
documents, those were in June of 2020; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So that was after Gena Pyfrom-Foster was already 
communicating with Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And if Gena Pyfrom-Foster wanted to make it look like it 
was actually Teldrin Foster, she could have used his account 
if she had access to it; right? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  I'm sorry, Your Honor, one moment.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Agent Stites, do you have F22A by you? 
A.
I have a lot up here.  A lot.  
Yes, I do. 
Q.
Do you mind if I grab that from you?  
Do you remember being shown F22A, which was a message 
from Gena Pyfrom-Foster to Darrell Thomas that said, Bout to 
send you the e-mail ones I did today? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And that was -- with the UTC time conversion, it was 
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about 10:42 p.m. on June 28th? 
A.
Yes.  That's correct. 
Q.
And do you remember being shown a couple of e-mails that 
came in shortly after that from the teldrin23@icloud.com 
account? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you know whether what Gena Pyfrom-Foster was talking 
about in this text message was those e-mails from the iCloud 
account? 
A.
I don't know. 
Q.
And do you recall -- let's see.  
Do you have -- 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, F337 was redacted.  And we 
know what's under the redactions, but Agent Stites doesn't, so 
we -- we need to be able to have him confirm that it's the 
same business as the one I'm about to show him, but he doesn't 
know what the redaction is, so -- 
THE COURT:  It seems like a problem we can solve, 
doesn't it?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yeah. 
THE COURT:  Go ahead.  I don't hear the defense 
objecting. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  It's redacted because of an objection 
that was made by another defendant. 
THE COURT:  Well, can we establish that without 
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showing it to the jury?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Sure. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
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Just look at this.  
A.
(Witness complies.) 
Q.
Okay.  Agent Stites, do you remember being shown 
Exhibit F337, which was an e-mail from the iCloud account to 
Darrell Thomas on June 28th at 11:00 p.m.? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And do you remember the implication being that that was 
one of the e-mails that Gena Pyfrom-Foster was referring to? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Do we have 4001 available as an exhibit 
number?  
MS. HOLLAND:  Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  It's available?  Okay.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Without telling us the company name that's on this, can 
you tell me if this is an e-mail that you received from 
GoDaddy for the Darrell Thomas Bellator Phront Group account? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, I move to admit Government 
Exhibit 4001, which is currently in unredacted form but will 
be redacted before it's provided to the jury. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can we see it?  
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No objection.  Sorry. 
MR. MARSHALL:  None, Judge. 
THE COURT:  All right.  So it's admitted, but it's 
going to be redacted?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Yes, Your Honor.  I'm going to show it 
right now with the business name covered. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Very well.  
MR. MARSHALL:  What's this exhibit number again?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  4001.
MR. MARSHALL:  Okay.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
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Agent Stites, I'm showing you this document.  We're 
redacting the business name, but you have it in front of you.  
Is the business name on this document the same business name 
as what was sent from the iCloud account to Darrell Thomas on 
June 28th? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did this e-mail attach documents -- unstamped documents 
for that business? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And was that just a few days earlier before the June 28th 
e-mail from the iCloud account? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it was from the Yahoo account? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
And, again, were you able to match up WhatsApp messages 
from Gena Pyfrom-Foster to Darrell Thomas with a Yahoo 
account? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is this pattern consistent with what you saw, that 
the Yahoo account would send unstamped documents and the 
iCloud account would send stamped documents? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Okay.  And during this time period, were there many 
documents for many different businesses going back and forth 
between the Yahoo e-mail, the iCloud e-mail and Darrell 
Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So does the fact that there's an e-mail from the iCloud 
account to Darrell Thomas shortly after Gena Pyfrom-Foster 
said she's about to send an e-mail mean it was Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster sending that e-mail? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Do you remember also being shown F338B?  Sorry, F338.  
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And do you have that one in front of you? 
A.
I do. 
Q.
Was that another e-mail from Gena -- I'm sorry -- from 
the Teldrin iCloud account to Darrell Thomas on June 28th at 
around 11:07 p.m.? 
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Yes.
Q.
And what was the business name on that e-mail? 
A.
Driving Under Intelligence. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Okay.  And, Your Honor, I'm going to 
move to admit Government Exhibit 4002 pursuant to Rule 902.11. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection. 
MS. WEBSTER:  I have no objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge.  Sorry. 
THE COURT:  It's admitted. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you, Your Honor. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
This is Government Exhibit 4002.  Is this an e-mail on 
June 27th of 2020 from the Yahoo account to Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And does it include and attach unstamped documents for 
Driving Under Intelligence? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  So is this the same pattern where the Yahoo 
account sends unstamped documents and then the iCloud account 
sends stamped documents? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, I'm going to move to admit 
Government Exhibit 4003 pursuant to Rule 902.11 as well. 
MS. WEBSTER:  No objection. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
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THE COURT:  It's admitted. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
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Is this an e-mail on June 29th at 1:47 a.m. from the 
Yahoo account to Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is that shortly after that text message or WhatsApp 
message that Gena Pyfrom-Foster sent to Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  Where she said she was sending documents? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And do you know whether this is the document she could 
have been referring to? 
A.
I don't know. 
Q.
Because she didn't say in that message what she was 
sending; right? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Okay.  So you would just be speculating to say that she 
sent any specific business document at that time? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Did you ever in your review of the 1,800 messages between 
Darrell Thomas and Gena Pyfrom-Foster ever see Darrell Thomas 
instruct Gena Pyfrom-Foster to stamp documents? 
A.
No, I don't believe so. 
Q.
Did you ever see her saying that she was stamping 
documents? 
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No. 
Q.
Do you remember being shown this document, which is 
Defense Exhibit F21, that Gena Pyfrom-Foster sent to Darrell 
Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So, first of all, was Transportation Management Services 
on this list? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Was that one of the loan applications that was completed 
in May of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was Gaines Reservation & Travel on this list? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Was that a loan application that was completed in May 
of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was Lee Operations on this list? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Was that a loan application that was completed in May 
of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was Impact Creations on this list? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Was that a loan application that was completed in May 
of 2020? 
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Yes.
Q.
Do you recall there also being earlier versions of this 
list of completed consulting contracts? 
A.
Yes, I think there were. 
Q.
And do you recall that there were various iterations that 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster sent to Darrell Thomas where she would say 
the ones she had done and the ones she had left? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And did all of those start after Gena Pyfrom-Foster 
started talking to Darrell Thomas in June of 2020? 
A.
The messages?  
Q.
The notes of what --
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Yes. 
Q.
-- contracts had been completed? 
A.
Correct.  Correct.  
Q.
And so do you remember being shown some e-mails of 
documents that were being sent to the iCloud account back in 
May of 2020? 
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Yes.
Q.
At that point in time was Gena Pyfrom-Foster sending 
Darrell Thomas any notes with contracts she had completed? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And based on the iterations of the notes that she was 
sending to him, was she working on all of those in June 
of 2020? 
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Yes.
Q.
And is that consistent with what we looked at last week, 
where Teldrin Foster prepared identical documents for lots and 
lots and lots of businesses and then Gena Pyfrom-Foster came 
in in June and fixed them? 
A.
Yes.  She got -- put in different numbers so it wasn't 
the same numbers over and over and over again. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you go to Government 
Exhibit 2300, page 234, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
And looking down at the message at the bottom there, do 
you see where Teldrin Foster said, Can you send Continuing 
Success, Inc., Regional and G. Power? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that was May 6th of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And did Ms. Webster show you e-mails from May 7th of 2020 
where Darrell Thomas sent some of these business documents to 
the iCloud account? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  If you could go to 237, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Do you see there on May 7th -- actually May 6th, late 
night with the UTC conversion, where Teldrin Foster said, Send 
T. White, Direct Logistic, Linda Hair.  
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Yes.
Q.
Was that the same day that Darrell Thomas e-mailed the 
iCloud account? 
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Yes.
Q.
Did you find any evidence in Gena Pyfrom-Foster's 
messages that she completed these consulting projects in May 
of 2020? 
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No. 
Q.
Did you find that Teldrin Foster, Teldrin's iCloud 
account had prepared identical documents for these businesses? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you go to 249, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Is this a list of businesses that Darrell Thomas sent to 
Teldrin Foster via WhatsApp? 
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Yes.
Q.
And if you can scroll down.  Are these many of the same 
businesses that were on the list of Gena Pyfrom-Foster's 
completed consulting contracts? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And this was in May of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So after these messages were sent, did you see Teldrin 
Foster prepare identical documentation for all of these 
businesses? 
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Yes. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Objection to referring to seeing 
Teldrin Foster do anything.  He did not witness Mr. Foster see 
or do anything.  
THE COURT:  Do you want to restate the question, 
Ms. Chaiken?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Sure. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Around this time frame in May of 2020, did you see the 
teldrin23@icloud.com account creating identical documents for 
many of these businesses? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then when Gena Pyfrom-Foster started talking directly 
to Darrell Thomas in June of 2020, did those numbers start to 
change on the documents? 
A.
Yes, they were redone with some new numbers. 
Q.
Do you recall being asked questions by Ms. Webster about 
some proffer interviews that you did with people in this case? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you remember if she asked you if the proffer 
interviews are prearranged ahead of time? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was your interview with Mr. Foster prearranged with him 
ahead of time? 
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It was scheduled, yes. 
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And he arrived when you scheduled it? 
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He arrived early. 
Q.
And was he required to come speak to you? 
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Q.
Was he in custody? 
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Nope. 
Q.
After the interview ended, did you arrest him? 
A.
No. 
Q.
What happened? 
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He got in his car and left. 
Q.
Was he entitled to bring an attorney with him if he 
wanted to? 
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Sure. 
Q.
Was he entitled to stop talking to you and leave any time 
he wanted to? 
A.
Sure. 
Q.
Do you remember also being asked about people who in 
their proffer interviews mentioned Teldrin Foster? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did you rely on what those people told you about Teldrin 
Foster? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Did you believe them? 
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No. 
Q.
Did you determine independently of what those people said 
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what Mr. Foster's involvement was? 
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Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you please publish Government 
Exhibit 2954.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Do you remember being asked some questions about the 
rapid! PayCard spreadsheet? 
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Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  And if you could go down to line 51, 
please.  And if you could just kind of highlight it. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
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What was listed as the address for the Teldrin Foster 
rapid! PayCard? 
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911 Georgetown Street, Clemson, South Carolina 29631.
Q.
What was listed as the date of birth? 
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8/5 of '81. 
Q.
And in the column next to that what was listed as the 
social security number? 
A.
346-04-2822. 
Q.
And what was listed as the activation date in the column 
all the way to the right? 
A.
7/11 of 2020. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you please publish Government 
Exhibit 2300, page 417.  Could you pull out that top message, 
please. 
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BY MS. CHAIKEN:  
Q.
Is this a message from Teldrin Foster to Darrell Thomas 
on WhatsApp? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And what was the date of that message? 
A.
7/11 of 2020. 
Q.
And with the UTC conversion, is it actually the night 
before, the night of July 10th? 
A.
Yes.  Correct. 
Q.
And did Teldrin Foster write Teldrin Foster? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And was there a date of birth listed? 
A.
8/5 of '81. 
Q.
Is that the same one that ended up on the rapid! PayCard 
spreadsheet? 
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Yes.
Q.
Was there a social security number listed? 
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Yes.
Q.
Was it the same social security number that ended up on 
the rapid! PayCard spreadsheet? 
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Yes.
Q.
Was there an address listed? 
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Yes.
Q.
Was it the same address that ended up on the rapid! 
PayCard spreadsheet? 
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Yes.
Q.
And Teldrin Foster sent this information the night before 
the card was activated? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And at this time in July of 2020 was this a time frame 
that Gena Pyfrom-Foster was already separately communicating 
with Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you remember on Friday when Special Agent Berni 
testified about the cell site analysis? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And do you remember there being questions about there 
being a difference of about an hour, of exactly an hour in the 
times that he used and the times that were on the spreadsheet? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Earlier in your investigation had you reached out to 
MetaBank to find out what time zone their records were kept 
in? 
A.
Yes, I did. 
Q.
And based on that conversation what did you do with the 
records before they were given to Agent Berni? 
A.
We found out that the time zone for the records was 
Central Time Zone.  So the analyst that was going through the 
transactions preparing the spreadsheet for Agent Berni 
converted the Central Time Zone to Eastern Time Zone. 
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Q.
Do you remember there also being some questions about 
reconciliation transactions in the rapid! PayCard chart? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Can you just explain to the jury what exactly that means? 
A.
For certain transactions, an example is if you're at a 
restaurant and you get your bill and they -- you give your 
credit card, they go and they -- the restaurant will swipe the 
card and get an authorization.  So there's, like, a 
point-of-sale preauthorization transaction that hits the 
credit card.  Then you get your receipt back and you put on 
your tip, and then there's like a -- adding the tip in, get a 
final price that gets charged to the card.  
Well, in the debit card, the preauthorization is that 
initial swipe, and then once they process the -- process the 
ticket with the tip and the final charge, it does a reversal 
of the preauthorization and then it charges the final charge.
So on several of the transactions for the rapid! PayCard, 
there would be a preauthorization, a point-of-sale 
preauthorization, a point-of-sale reconciliation which 
reverses it, and then there is a final charge that hits that 
card.  And a lot of times that final -- that reconciliation 
and that final charge can occur, you know, hours later or even 
days later.  We saw some instances where it was a couple days, 
some instances it was just later that evening.  But the 
initial authorization is where you can be assured that the 
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cardholder was in the restaurant or the place of business. 
Q.
So in the transactions that were given to Agent Berni to 
analyze, were some of those transactions ones that actually 
were these reconciliation type of transactions? 
A.
Yes.  They were sometimes a reconciliation or the final 
charge and not the preauthorizations.  That's when you could 
say that the cardholder was at the -- in the establishment. 
Q.
So when there were references on Friday to errors in 
Agent Berni's analysis, was that a reference to times of 
transactions that he analyzed where the cardholder wasn't 
actually there? 
A.
Right.  Correct.  
Q.
In early July of 2020 did you serve a subpoena on 
Bellator Phront Group for records? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And did you ask Bellator for records related to its 
employees? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you please publish Government 
Exhibit 2300, page 414.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
And do you see at the top Darrell Thomas sent a WhatsApp 
message to Teldrin that said they sent new papers, all the 
accounts got hit? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
Was this around the time that you were seeking records 
from Bellator Phront Group? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And you had seized money from various accounts that 
Darrell Thomas controlled? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you go to -- is 2340 in?  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
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Agent Stites, do you have Government Exhibits 2340 and 
2341 in front of you?
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23?  
Q.
2340 and 2341.  
A.
These are 3000.  
Here they are.  
Q.
Do you recognize those exhibits? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Are those excerpts of WhatsApp messages between Darrell 
Thomas and Teldrin Foster from the Cellebrite extraction? 
A.
Yes, they are. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, I move to admit 
Government's Exhibits 2340 and 2341 and the sub exhibits to 
those.  
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection. 
MS. WEBSTER:  No objection. 
THE COURT:  They're admitted. 
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MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you. 
Could you please publish 2340 and 2340A.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Up at the top there did Darrell Thomas send Teldrin 
Foster a document? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And what was the attachment and what was the document? 
A.
A W-4 employee withholding certificate for 2020. 
Q.
And had the subpoena to Bellator Phront Group requested 
documents related to employees of Bellator Phront Group? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Would that include things like Form W-4s for employees? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you please go to 2300, page 435.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
And looking down at the last message, do you see that 
Darrell Thomas sent Teldrin Foster a Google spreadsheet? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  If you could scroll down to the next 
page, please, Ms. Holland. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
What did Darrell Thomas say when he sent that message? 
A.
When you get employees add them in here.  
Q.
Do you remember being asked some questions by Ms. Webster 
about whether Gena Pyfrom-Foster helped Darrell Thomas get 
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records together for the subpoena response? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And did Teldrin Foster also work with Darrell Thomas to 
try to get records related to the subpoena response? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  If you could go to 2341, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Do you see at the top where Darrell Thomas sent Teldrin 
Foster an image?   
A.
Yes.
Q.
And what did he say when he sent that image? 
A.
Need all socials for this info you put in.  
MS. CHAIKEN:  And if you could -- if you could scroll 
down, Ms. Holland.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:  
Q.
Were there several images that Darrell Thomas sent to 
Teldrin Foster? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  If you could publish Government Exhibit 
2341A, please. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:  
Q.
Was this one of the attachments? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
What was that attachment? 
A.
It's a QuickBooks listing of employees that shows the 
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name, the pay rate, pay method and then status.  
Q.
And are these all names that ended up on payroll 
spreadsheets for Bellator? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is the name Utwuan Cooper on there? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And did Teldrin Foster tell you that was his friend? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And Darrell Thomas was asking Teldrin Foster to put 
socials in for those people? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you remember being asked on Thursday if you had 
reviewed Telegram messages on Darrell Thomas's phone? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Could you please review Government Exhibit 4000 in the 
binder in front of you and tell me if you recognize what it 
is? 
A.
Ms. Chaiken, what exhibit?  
Q.
4000.  
Do you recognize Government Exhibit 4000? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
What is that document? 
A.
This is a Telegram message between Darrell Thomas and 
TeleTed.
Q.
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did review Telegram messages on Darrell Thomas's phone? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is Government Exhibit 4000 a report that you generated 
from the Cellebrite extraction of Darrell Thomas's phone? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, I move to admit Government 
Exhibit 4000. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Objection, Your Honor.  This is -- this 
is a different phone number that is not associated with 
Mr. Foster.  And it does not list Teldrin.  So I don't think 
there's a basis for concluding that it meets the hearsay 
exception. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Chaiken, I guess the issue is the 
phone number?  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Agent Stites, do Telegram accounts use phone numbers? 
A.
No. 
Q.
On that -- on Exhibit 4000, is there a number listed next 
to Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is it the same phone number as the phone number for his 
phone? 
A.
No. 
Q.
What kind of number is it? 
A.
Just like a Telegram ID. 
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And who is the conversation with? 
A.
TeleTed. 
Q.
And is "Tele" like the beginning of Telegram? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And the second part is "Ted"? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did Teldrin Foster tell you anything about the name Ted? 
A.
Yes.  That's a name that he goes by in some circles. 
Q.
That's one of his nicknames? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did he tell you why people call him Ted? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Why? 
A.
He said he had it tattooed on his neck. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, I move to admit Government 
Exhibit 4000. 
THE COURT:  Any further objection, Ms. Webster?
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, Your Honor.  They haven't 
established that this actually belongs to Teldrin Foster. 
THE COURT:  Anything else?  
MS. WEBSTER:  I've never seen this before.  So I 
maintain an objection to not seeing this before.
THE COURT:  I'm sorry, can you speak up?  You're 
trailing there.  
MS. WEBSTER:  I've never seen this document before or 
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messages between Mr. -- and I've specifically looked for 
Telegram messages and have not seen this before.  So I object 
on that basis and in addition to the foundation not being laid 
that it actually belongs to Teldrin Foster. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  Overruled as to foundation.  I 
think Ms. Chaiken has established that.  
Mr. Marshall, I assume you didn't have an objection?  
MR. MARSHALL:  No objection, Judge. 
THE COURT:  All right.  And as far as when you'd seen 
the document, Ms. Chaiken?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, this was produced with the 
phone extraction.  It's part of the complete phone extraction 
that was produced back in 2020.  They've had it for almost two 
years now. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Anything else, Ms. Webster?  
MS. WEBSTER:  No. 
THE COURT:  Overruled.  It's admitted. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Could you please publish Government 
Exhibit 4000.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
And is this a Telegram conversation between TeleTed and 
Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Yes, it is. 
Q.
And those numbers at the top, what do you understand 
those numbers to be? 
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Identification numbers for the Telegram application. 
Q.
And on -- if you could go to page 5, please.  What did 
Darrell Thomas say on July 20th of 2020? 
A.
Need signed W-4 from each. 
Q.
And is the W-4 form the same thing that Darrell Thomas 
had sent to Teldrin Foster via WhatsApp? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And then what did Teldrin Foster say? 
A.
Dude them fir my card. 
Q.
What was the next message after that? 
A.
They will sign W-4 for that 1,000. 
Q.
And what did Darrell Thomas say? 
A.
Don't matter, 1K is fine. 
Q.
So these were people who were going to sign W-4 forms in 
exchange for a thousand dollars? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And was this right around the time period that Bellator 
Phront Group was collecting documents in response to the 
subpoena? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  If you could go to the next page, 
please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
What was Teldrin Foster's message there at the beginning, 
the first message on the page? 
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My sure we on da same page.  The 1K is what you paying 
them for employment.  The card is for me to collect my 
percentage. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  And if you could stay on that, 
Ms. Holland, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Did Mr. Foster refer to the card? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And July 20th of 2020, was this after the rapid! PayCard 
in Teldrin Foster's name had been created? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And, by the way, you recall being asked some questions 
about rapid! PayCards that were seized from Darrell Thomas at 
his house? 
A.
Yes.  Yes.
Q.
Was one of those cards the Teldrin Foster card? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And what did Teldrin Foster say the card is for? 
A.
It's for him to collect his percentage. 
Q.
Did he say it's for him to get back his retirement money? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Did he say it's for him to get back the money that 
Darrell Thomas owes him because he hustled him? 
A.
No. 
Q.
It says to collect my percentage?  
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Yes.
Q.
And then what did Darrell Thomas say after that? 
A.
Yeah, we are. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  And then if you could scroll down, 
please, to the next page.  Down at the bottom, can you pull 
out the last two messages, please.  
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
What did Darrell Thomas say? 
A.
You acting like a bitch real talk.  I need the ID and 
pics for the fed shit but you talkin bout money.  If something 
happened to me, all that shit stop, remember that.  You ain't 
going to have shit to argue about. 
Q.
And what did Teldrin Foster say? 
A.
Dude I'm act like a bitch, okay, cool because that how 
you trying me. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  If we could go to the next page, 
please. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
If you could just read the conversation on this page, 
please.  
A.
Just know you're being very disrespectful.  
And then Darrell Thomas said, Nah, fuck you, I got fed 
shit but you ain't trying to see about shit.  Good to know.  
You already came with that energy.  You talk too much shit.  
And Teldrin Foster said, Okay, so what you saying?
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Darrell Thomas said, Fuck it, bro.  Enjoy that change, 
whatever happens, all good.  
Teldrin Foster said, Remember, trust me, you're not in 
full control. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  If you could go down to the next page, 
please. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
What was Teldrin Foster's first message on this next 
page? 
A.
Okay.  So what you're saying is fuck my percentage and da 
people on my end, right?  
Q.
So, again, he was referring to his percentage? 
A.
Right. 
Q.
And the people on his end? 
A.
The people on his end. 
Q.
And throughout the rest of this conversation were Darrell 
Thomas and Teldrin Foster talking about money? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  And if you can scroll down to the next 
page, please, Ms. Holland.
BY MS. CHAIKEN:  
Q.
Was the last message between them on July 24th of 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And does that also correspond to the last WhatsApp 
message between Teldrin Foster and Darrell Thomas? 
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Yes.
Q.
And in your chart that you made of their communications, 
is that the last call or message -- is that the last call 
between them on WhatsApp as well? 
A.
Yes, I believe so. 
Q.
So around July 24th of 2020 did they fall out? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And during this time period, including after July 24th of 
2020, did Gena Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell Thomas continue 
talking? 
A.
Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  May I have one moment, Your Honor?  
THE COURT:  Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you. 
BY MS. CHAIKEN:
Q.
Agent Stites, let's switch gears and talk about 
Ms. Jackson, okay? 
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Do you remember Mr. Marshall asking you about digital 
evidence that you collected in this case? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And he confirmed with you that you didn't get a search 
warrant for any of Ms. Jackson's devices, like her cellphone 
or her computer? 
A.
Yes.
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Q.
And, by the way, I just want to clarify something.  You 
were asked a lot of questions about whether you subpoenaed 
e-mail records.  Do you remember those questions? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can you obtain the content of e-mails like we've been 
looking at through a subpoena? 
A.
No. 
Q.
What do you need to do in order to get e-mails? 
A.
You need a search warrant. 
Q.
So you can't just send a subpoena to whoever you want to 
get whatever e-mails you want? 
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
Now, so you were -- you did not get a search warrant for 
any of Ms. Jackson's devices; correct? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Do you recall testifying that you issued a subpoena to 
Management Resource Services? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And did that subpoena to Management Resource Services ask 
Management Resource Services to produce other documents or 
papers related to financial transactions of the company? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
So whatever records Ms. Jackson may have had on her 
cellphone or her computer or a tablet or any other electronic 
device, if it was related to financial transactions of 
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Management Resource Services, was she supposed to provide them 
pursuant to the subpoena? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did the subpoena also ask Management Resource Services to 
produce all communications with Gaines Reservation & Travel? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And so whatever records Ms. Jackson may have had on her 
devices, her cellphone, her laptop, her computer, anything 
that were communications with anyone from Gaines Reservation & 
Travel, was she supposed to produce those in response to the 
subpoena? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you remember being asked about the proposal that 
Ms. Jackson told you that she had that she had presented to 
Gaines Reservation & Travel? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is a proposal that relates to $335,000 worth of payments 
a document that's related to a financial transaction of the 
company? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And is a proposal that's presented to Gaines 
Reservation & Travel a communication with Gaines Reservation & 
Travel? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
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that they had the proposal but they didn't think it was 
covered by the subpoena so that's why they weren't producing 
it? 
A.
Not that I'm aware of. 
Q.
Do you remember being asked questions about Roadrunner 
Automotive Group? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that was the business that received about $71,000 
from Bellator Phront Group? 
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
And at the time that the bank account received that 
amount, Carla Jackson was the only one on that account? 
A.
Yes.  That's correct. 
Q.
And do you remember that Mr. Marshall showed you the 
articles of organization for Roadrunner Automotive Group? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And he was asking you about Mr. Gaines being associated 
with Roadrunner from the very beginning? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was Ms. Jackson also associated with Roadrunner from the 
very beginning? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was she listed as the organizer of Roadrunner on the 
articles of organization? 
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I don't recall what -- how she was listed. 
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Q.
Would it refresh your recollection if I showed you the 
document? 
A.
Yes, it would.  It would.  
Yes, that is correct.  Both -- the two organizers are 
Carla Jackson and John Gaines. 
Q.
Okay.  So she was also involved with that business from 
the very beginning? 
A.
Yes. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  May I have one moment, please, Your 
Honor?  
THE COURT:  Sure. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Thank you.  
Nothing further, Your Honor.  Thank you.  
THE COURT:  Any redirect?  
MS. WEBSTER:  We do, Your Honor.  I think 
Mr. Marshall went first, so... 
RECROSS-EXAMINATION
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
Agent Stites, there were some questions about whether a 
search warrant was obtained in this case.  Remember those from 
Ms. Chaiken just a minute ago? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  Now, a search warrant is an option for you to 
pursue if you want to present an affidavit and an application 
to a judge to see if there's probable cause for issuance of a 
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search warrant; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
You have this investigation.  You believe that there was 
evidence of money laundering in this case; correct? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
Did you feel that you didn't have sufficient probable 
cause to seek a search warrant for things like devices and 
materials like that or e-mail communications? 
A.
No.  We chose to go the business subpoena route on -- in 
Ms. Jackson's case. 
Q.
Curious, did you do that with the laptop of Mr. Darrell 
Thomas? 
A.
No.  We had a search warrant for his whole house.  The 
laptop was included as part of that search warrant. 
Q.
But it would be fair to say the information you got from 
Darrell Thomas's laptop was valuable to your case; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  If you had actually gotten a search warrant 
possibly for Ms. Jackson's devices or her house, could that 
possibly have turned up important information for your case? 
A.
I don't know. 
Q.
And that's because? 
A.
We decided to do a business subpoena and a knock-and-talk 
interview on Ms. Jackson, as well as subpoena all the bank 
records and trace the money from the bank -- from the PPP loan 
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at Gaines Reservation & Travel in and out of her accounts. 
Q.
Okay.  But answer my question.  
You never obtained a search warrant to search any of 
those devices; correct? 
A.
None of Ms. Jackson's devices. 
Q.
When you were over at Ms. Jackson's residence, when you 
just showed up, did you even ask Ms. Jackson if you could 
inspect her devices? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And, remember, I think you answered on that first 
visit there was no mention -- you didn't believe she was 
represented by a -- well, she wasn't represented by an 
attorney, correct, during that first visit on July 7th, 2020?  
A.
At the end of the visit she said that she had a couple 
attorneys she was going to reach out to.  And that's when we 
stopped the conversation. 
Q.
Do you happen to recall -- do you know how long that 
recording was that we listened to? 
A.
I think it was like 13 minutes. 
Q.
Right.  Do you happen to recall -- or would you disagree 
with me that the first time the word "attorney" came up in 
that recording was about the 12-minute mark? 
A.
That's probably accurate. 
Q.
So you never even mentioned anything about maybe 
Ms. Jackson talking to an attorney, maybe seeking an attorney 
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before she continued answering questions for you; correct? 
A.
No.  Ms. Jackson was not in custody. 
Q.
All right.  I'm going to ask you more questions about 
that in a minute, though.  
But as far as the devices, you never did go ahead and try 
to seek a -- you didn't go get a court order for them, right, 
for any of her devices? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And you were there and for 12 minutes of that 
conversation you never asked Ms. Jackson if you could look at 
her devices or see if she would consent to a search of a 
laptop or desktop or a cellphone, did you? 
A.
No.  We felt that the business subpoena would get us the 
records that she was referring to when we were talking to her 
about the money coming into her account. 
MR. MARSHALL:  And I don't recall, Ms. Chaiken, if 
you have the grand jury subpoena in evidence?
Okay.  All right.  
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
There were some questions for you about this grand jury 
subpoena.  We don't have that in front of us, do we?  It's not 
in the record; correct? 
A.
No. 
Q.
There's some questions about the actual -- if I give you 
an opportunity to review what I have for that to refresh your 
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recollection, would that be helpful? 
A.
Sure. 
Q.
Did you get a chance to look at it? 
A.
Did you want me to look at all the pages of it?  This is 
the return; right?  This is the --   
Q.
It is.
A.
Okay.  
Q.
So if you could look at the subpoena portion, the records 
that are being requested, because I think Ms. Chaiken made 
some reference to documents and things of that nature.  
A.
I need to move some of these binders, I'm sorry.  
So Section 5, which is production requests?  
Q.
Right.  Now, don't read it out, but just review what's in 
that document, okay, as far as the request.  
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Did you get a chance to review what's there? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can I look at it again briefly? 
A.
Sure.  Can we share it?
Q.
Sure.  
A.
Okay.  
Q.
Sounds good.  All right.
We can't read it, but there are some references to some 
records and books and documents and financial information and 
things like that in one of the production requests.  Does that 
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refresh your recollection? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is there any mention in there about digital devices or 
computers, laptops or cell phones? 
A.
No. 
Q.
The second request that's listed there that's referenced 
here, is there any reference to digital devices at all? 
A.
No. 
Q.
What about the next section here.  We can't read it out, 
but is there any request here for any kind of digital devices, 
anything like that? 
A.
Not specifically digital.  All of these are documents 
that would more than likely be found on a digital device, but 
there's no reference to a digital device.  We're not 
requesting in the subpoena to have Ms. Jackson send in digital 
devices. 
Q.
Right.  But is there any direction here that if any of 
these devices are in there, she needs to -- excuse me.  
Does this indicate anywhere in here that Ms. Jackson or 
somebody that's the subject of a subpoena has to print out 
text messages on their cellphone, anything like that? 
A.
If the text messages are in relation to communications 
with the individuals that were listed in the next section or 
any of these items that are listed in the production request, 
then I would say yes. 
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Q.
And would you agree with me that the next page of this 
document, we won't read it out loud, but are there any 
references anywhere on this page or the next page about 
digital devices or cell phones, laptops, anything like that? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And in this particular document that you just reviewed 
and now I'm looking at with you, part of this document has a 
subpoena on the front, kind of like a cover page? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And the attachment that references the request, the pages 
are numbered, correct, at the bottom of the pages? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
What do you notice between this page here and the 
following page, if you look at the page numbers? 
A.
This page is page 1 and then the next page is page 4.  
Q.
Do you know where pages 2 and 3 are? 
A.
That is the response we got.  So I'd have to look at the 
original subpoena that was delivered. 
Q.
Did you ever -- is this document what you believe you 
received from Ms. Jackson? 
A.
I believe that is the document that came to the US 
Attorney's Office. 
Q.
So did anyone ever follow up with Ms. Jackson and say, 
you know there's a missing page 2 and 3, to see if maybe you 
didn't give the pages to her or she omitted them? 
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A.
I'm not aware of that.  
Q.
Did you ever look at this when you got it back? 
A.
Yes, I looked at the response of items. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, I think Mr. Marshall is 
asking about something that's been marked as a defense 
exhibit, but we have the complete response in front of us.  So 
I'm not sure what he's showing the witness. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Sure.  I was showing him part of the 
subpoena with the actual document requests.  I'll show you 
here.  It's in the attachment, all of this.  That was part of 
the subpoena.  And it goes from page 1, jumps to page 4.
(Off-the-record discussion between counsel.)
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
Is this the first time today in court that you realized 
that there were missing pages in an official subpoena that you 
issued to Ms. Jackson in this case? 
A.
That is missing pages in a response.  I don't -- I'd have 
to look at the actual -- the official subpoena that was 
served. 
Q.
So wouldn't you review a subpoena response that you got 
from a party that you were interested in? 
A.
I would have reviewed the responsive items, not re-review 
the actual subpoena itself. 
Q.
At least from this, if two pages are missing, we don't 
know what additional things were being requested or what was 
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being defined or explained to somebody that had to answer a 
subpoena --
A.
Again, those are two pages missing in the subpoena 
response, which is Ms. Jackson's response to the subpoena that 
was served. 
Q.
But you can't even tell today that the missing pages 
were -- that the grand jury subpoena and the attachment that 
you provided to Ms. Jackson on that day was incomplete? 
A.
I'd have to look at the actual subpoena that was served, 
a copy of the subpoena that was served. 
Q.
Okay.  Because we know she's responded to the subpoena; 
correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And there were two missing pages; correct? 
A.
In her response. 
Q.
And you didn't know that until today? 
A.
I did not.  
Q.
And we're in the middle of trial --
A.
We are. 
Q.
-- correct?  Okay.  
Some questions were asked -- these were general questions 
from Ms. Chaiken about proffer agreements and about parties 
that have been -- you did proffer meetings and interviews 
with.  Do you recall that?
A.
Yes.
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Q.
So most of these proffer meetings -- I guess in 
Mr. Foster's case you actually called him, is that how it 
worked?  
A.
He actually called us and then we scheduled the interview 
the following day. 
Q.
Let's contrast that.  
Now, that didn't happen with Ms. Jackson, did it? 
A.
No. 
Q.
In fact, you didn't call her and tell her who you were; 
right? 
A.
No. 
Q.
You just showed up at her house; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
When you showed up at her house, you knew that she was in 
business meetings, she had calls and things like that.  She 
told you that; correct? 
A.
When Ms. Jackson answered the door, she said she had some 
back-to-back calls and her next call was at 10:00.  We got 
there at 9:40, so she was going to give us a few minutes.  And 
I think we even made the reference, well, we'd better ask our 
questions quickly. 
Q.
Now, there's another question from the government that 
said that -- in Mr. Foster's case, for instance, he wasn't 
required to come to see you, he wasn't required to come to 
you.  Do you remember that? 
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A.
Yeah.  He was not required. 
Q.
Now, that's not the case -- that's different from 
Ms. Jackson's case again; correct? 
A.
Ms. Jackson was not required to speak with us, but we did 
show up at her door. 
Q.
She wasn't required to speak with you.  Did you tell her 
that? 
A.
No. 
Q.
In fact, did you ever mention anything about her right to 
stop talking if she wanted to? 
A.
No.  Ms. Jackson was not in custody. 
Q.
I know, but even if she's not in custody, someone has a 
right to stop talking; correct? 
A.
They do. 
Q.
Did you ever mention that, look, it might be a good idea 
if you have any questions or you feel uneasy about this, that 
if you want to talk to an attorney first, I can come back at a 
later time? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Have you ever done that with people that you've 
interviewed? 
A.
Not on an initial knock-and-talk where they're not in 
custody. 
Q.
Is part of the reason for that because you don't want 
someone to have an opportunity to actually talk to an attorney 
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or someone that may be able to advise them about what to do? 
A.
The purpose for that is to try to get the information 
that you're seeking during the interview. 
Q.
I think there's also -- there were questions at some 
point about proffer meetings, where now some proffer meetings 
have actual formal letters and things like that with people 
that are being interviewed; right? 
A.
Yes.  Well, any -- I said all proffers pretty much have a 
proffer agreement. 
Q.
And there was nothing like that for Ms. Jackson; right? 
A.
No. 
Q.
You didn't show up with anything about letting her know 
what her rights were or maybe -- and this is just something -- 
not in custody, just telling her what the agreement was, what 
the understanding was between you and her; right?
(Clarification by the court reporter.)
THE WITNESS:  I don't think I gave an answer.  I was 
waiting for the rest of the question. 
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
Is it fair to say that this was a surprise showup and you 
expected for Ms. Jackson to be surprised when you showed up? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And if she's surprised, she's not really kind of prepared 
to answer you and provide any kind of information really at 
that point; correct? 
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A.
She seemed very comfortable and was providing information 
based on the questions. 
Q.
Even though she kept reminding you that she had an 
important call; right? 
A.
Yes.  She said she had a call at 10:00 that she had to 
get on. 
Q.
At one point she even asked you, Can I get a card from 
you?  Do you remember that? 
A.
Yes, I do. 
Q.
And do you remember when she first -- I think at that 
first meeting, was that when she didn't even -- you asked 
almost, Are you going to let us in? 
A.
Yes.  It was a question, Are we going to talk outside 
here or are you going to let us in and we can talk inside?  
Q.
Okay.  And she didn't know really what you were, right, 
initially?  I mean, you're two FBI agents showing up; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Did you have your weapons on you? 
A.
We had our weapons on but concealed.  We would have shown 
credentials and we would have had a badge. 
Q.
Okay.  Just let me back up a little bit just to the 
timeline of when this all occurred.  This interview occurred 
in July of 2020; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Ms. Jackson's an African-American female; correct? 
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A.
She is. 
Q.
Do you remember what occurred during this timeline a few 
months before the month of July 2020? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you recall the death of George Floyd? 
A.
Yes. 
Q.
And that occurred just a couple months before your visit 
to Ms. Jackson's house? 
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Do you recall the killing of Breonna Taylor? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you recall that's about in the same two- to 
three-month time frame to when you visited Ms. Jackson? 
A.
Okay. 
Q.
Okay.  All right.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Ms. Holland, can you please put up 
Government's Exhibit 1000.
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
You've seen this document before, correct, Agent Stites? 
A.
Yes, I have. 
Q.
And what is this again for the jury? 
A.
This is the Paycheck Protection Program Borrower 
Application Form for Gaines Reservation & Travel. 
Q.
And this is a document that ended up where proceeds were 
disbursed for a loan to Gaines Reservation & Travel that 
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basically formed the basis of the two charges against 
Ms. Jackson; correct? 
A.
That's correct. 
Q.
So in all that we've heard, lots about the e-mails, all 
the e-mail communications and everything, do you have any 
e-mails between -- who submitted this application, by the way?  
Who signed it? 
A.
Andre Gaines. 
Q.
Do you have any e-mail communications from Andre Gaines 
to Carla Jackson about this document or about this loan? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Do you have any WhatsApp messages or text messages from 
Andre Gaines about this? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Do you have any e-mails, WhatsApp messages or text 
messages or anything from Carla Jackson to Andre Gaines about 
this PPP loan? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Do you have any communications at all from Darrell Taylor 
(sic) to Carla Jackson about this application from Gaines 
Reservation & Travel? 
A.
No.  And the only way we would have gotten those messages 
would be through the business subpoena request that we 
submitted to Ms. Jackson. 
Q.
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devices; correct?
A.
Or a search warrant.  We chose to go the business 
subpoena route. 
Q.
Right.  But in response to my question, you have 
absolutely no evidence of any communications regarding this 
application; correct? 
A.
We had no communications. 
Q.
All right.  And no communications that Ms. Jackson was a 
party to that knew somebody was applying for a PPP loan for 
Gaines Reservation & Travel; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
All right.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Ms. Holland, can I please go to 
Government's Exhibit 1167.  If you could scroll down, please, 
there's a check image.  Right there.
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
Do you recall this exhibit that was admitted? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you recall which count of the indictment that is  
based on this document here, this check in the amount of 
$155,252.50? 
A.
I believe it's Count 46.  
Q.
Are there any e-mail communications, WhatsApp messages, 
text messages, or any other type of communications from Andre 
Gaines about this check to Carla Jackson? 
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A.
No. 
Q.
Are there any such communications from Darrell Thomas to 
Carla Jackson about this check? 
A.
No. 
Q.
From John Gaines to Carla Jackson about this check? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And reversed, are there any types of communications from 
Carla Jackson to anyone about this check from Andre Gaines? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Okay.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Ms. Holland, can you please go to 
Document 1125, Government's Exhibit 1125.
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
What is this document, Agent Stites? 
A.
This is a wire transfer receipt for a wire transfer from 
a Gaines Reservation PNC Bank account. 
Q.
Okay.  And who submitted this or who initiated this 
transfer?  Not the bank, but who was the sender? 
A.
Andre Lee Gaines. 
Q.
You know what my questions are going to be.  Are there 
any communications at all, any type at all, from Andre Gaines 
contacting Ms. Jackson and saying, hey, I've got a big wire 
transfer coming to you, you've got to look out for it? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Are there any communications from him saying, hey, this 
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is where these funds came from, how I got them, anything like 
that?  
A.
No. 
Q.
Are there any communications from Andre Gaines saying 
anything to the effect of, hey, when you get these funds, 
conceal them, hide them for us? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Okay.  Anything from Darrell Thomas to that effect, 
anything from Darrell Thomas related to this wire transfer 
where he communicates with Carla Jackson? 
A.
No. 
Q.
From John Gaines, same thing, any communications that you 
have in your evidence that talk about this that are e-mails, 
WhatsApp, text messages, things of that nature? 
A.
Between John Gaines and Carla Jackson?  
Q.
Yes.  
A.
No.
THE COURT:  Mr. Marshall, I'm sorry to interrupt you, 
but we've been going over an hour and half and I just got a 
note that someone needed a comfort break.  So let's go ahead 
and take a ten-minute break, everyone.  Thank you.  
(After a recess was taken at 4:20 p.m., the 
proceedings continued at 4:33 p.m. as follows:) 
THE COURT:  Please bring out the jury. 
(The jury entered the courtroom at 4:33 p.m.) 
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THE COURT:  Y'all can be seated.  Thank you.  
Mr. Marshall, please proceed. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Thank you, Your Honor.  
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
Good afternoon again, Agent Stites.  
A.
Good afternoon. 
Q.
So let me go through the form questions again on a couple 
more items, if you don't mind.  Is that okay? 
A.
Sure. 
Q.
On the two deposits that were made into Management 
Resource Services that form the basis of Counts 46 and 47, I 
know we've said there are no communications anywhere.  Are 
there any communications related to some type of a -- you 
know, I guess an effort to conceal the nature -- the source  
of the funds, like to try to hide the funds in Management 
Resources Services' bank account or something like that? 
A.
Between who?  Communications between?  
Q.
From any of the parties I mentioned, Andre Gaines to 
Carla Jackson? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Or from John Gaines to Carla Jackson? 
A.
No. 
Q.
And the same thing with Darrell Thomas? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Right?  
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Any other persons?  Do you have any other evidence where 
somebody communicated with Carla Jackson about, hey, we're 
trying to hide these funds in your bank account for your 
company, anything like that? 
A.
No. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Ms. Holland, can you pull up 
Government's Exhibit 1151.  
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
Q.
Do you remember the government asking you a question 
about the Secretary of State, I guess, certificate of 
authority for Roadrunner? 
A.
Yeah. 
Q.
I think just generally.  
And there are two names on that company; is that correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And who are the two names?  What are the two names? 
A.
Carla Jackson and John Gaines. 
Q.
Now we're looking at Government's Exhibit 1151.  Do you 
recall this being introduced into evidence? 
A.
I do. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Ms. Holland, can you go to the 
transaction page that has the deposit and the debits.  Thank 
you.  Stop right there.  Can you please pull out that deposit 
part at the top.  Thank you.
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
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Do you know what the source is of the deposit that's 
dated June 5th, 2020, in the amount of $71,144.35? 
A.
No.  It's basically a bank transfer. 
Q.
From which bank? 
A.
From the same bank. 
Q.
But do you know whose account? 
A.
Not based on this document. 
Q.
Do you have any communications at all from Andre Gaines 
to Carla Jackson about this deposit and what it's -- why it's 
coming into her account? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Any communications from Darrell Thomas for just one -- 
another example to Carla Jackson about this? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Any from John Gaines about why this $71,000 is coming 
into this account for Roadrunner? 
A.
No. 
Q.
Okay.  Any communications from Carla Jackson to anybody 
about this? 
A.
No. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Thank you, Ms. Holland. 
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
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Let's go back just briefly.  There was a question from 
the government about when you did your interview and you 
asked -- I think Ms. Jackson mentioned this proposal for this 
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project --
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Yes.
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-- right?  
And that that proposal was never, I guess, provided in 
the response to the subpoena, the grand jury subpoena; right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Did you ever try to follow up and try to get a copy of 
that or talk to her about it? 
A.
Not me personally, no. 
Q.
Well, she did mention actually specifically a proposal.  
That would be kind of interesting to follow up on, would you 
say? 
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Yes.
Q.
Is there a reason why you didn't follow up at all and try 
to find out if, you know, you could get a copy of that? 
A.
Ms. Jackson was represented at that point. 
Q.
Did you actually confirm that and reach out and find out 
who that attorney was? 
A.
No, I didn't.  
Q.
Okay.  But if the proposal was important, you could have 
reached out to who that attorney is; correct? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Have you ever contacted attorneys before if you thought 
they were representing somebody in a case? 
A.
Sometimes. 
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Have you done so to kind of request documents or see if 
maybe you can sit down and discuss certain documents? 
A.
A lot of times that will go through the US Attorney's 
Office to the attorney. 
Q.
Okay.  Okay.  
MR. MARSHALL:  I do not know if I have this up front.  
Do you remember -- Mr. Foster's Exhibit F21, I don't know if I 
have that available right now.  Do you have a printout of 
that, Leigh Ann?  That's the list of the companies.  Or does 
he have that up there?  
F21.
BY MR. MARSHALL:  
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Agent Stites, I'm going to bring Mr. Foster's Exhibit F21 
up to you so you can look at it one more time.  Is that okay? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Does that two-page document have an entry for Roadrunner? 
A.
Yes, it does. 
Q.
Any communications that you have involving Carla Jackson 
about Roadrunner related to that document that you have? 
A.
Communications from Carla Jackson?  
Q.
From her or to her.  
A.
No. 
Q.
And who is the other person that's one of the founders of 
this company? 
A.
John Gaines. 
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Okay.  All right.  And John Gaines is charged in other 
counts in this indictment; correct? 
A.
Yes.
MR. MARSHALL:  That's all I have, Judge.  
Agent Stites, thank you.  
THE WITNESS:  Thank you. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you. 
Can we see Government Exhibit 3000.
RECROSS-EXAMINATION 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Agent Stites, on redirect do you recall talking about the 
loans that are on Defendant's Exhibit F21, the list that you 
were just looking at with Mr. Marshall?  
A.
Oh, yes.  Yes.  
Q.
Do you recall testifying that those loans all began or 
were submitted in June of 2020? 
A.
Can you repeat the question?  
Q.
Do you recall -- I think that you testified that the 
loans on this list did not start until May or June of 2020.  
Sorry, it's not what's being displayed to you.  
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Okay. 
Q.
This list; right?  Do you recall questions about when 
these loans were completed? 
A.
All the remaining items on that list or anyone -- what 
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loans specifically?  
Q.
Well, if I recall correctly, you testified that the -- 
there were multiple iterations of this list; correct? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And that all of the items on this list were created after 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster began communicating directly with Darrell 
Thomas; is that correct? 
A.
Not every one.  Bellator was not, obviously. 
Q.
That's my point; right?   
A.
Yeah.  
Q.
So Bellator was actually submitted in --
A.
That was early.  
Q.
-- April of 2020; right?
A.
Yes.
Q.
And to be clear, that's on this list? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Okay.  Am I correct that you're basing your conclusions 
about what Gena Pyfrom-Foster was involved in based on the 
WhatsApp communications between her and Darrell Thomas 
primarily and the timing of those? 
A.
Yeah, primarily. 
Q.
And so -- but we don't have her phone; right?
A.
Well, in addition to her interview, I guess, I guess to 
complete that answer.  The -- 
Q.
Okay.  But we -- I'm sorry.  
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The e-mails, WhatsApp messages and her interview. 
Q.
We do not have her phone?  
A.
We don't. 
Q.
So we don't know what else is in there about her other 
communications? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And we don't have her devices; right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
So we don't have her laptop or a desktop computer or any 
other device to know when those documents were worked on? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
And so we -- you can only -- you're basing your 
conclusions on what you have in front of you; right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
But there's a universe of material that we just don't 
have; right? 
A.
There are things we don't have. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Ms. Holland, can we see 2345, please.  
Sorry, this isn't the right one.  
Can I have one second?
(Off-the-record discussion between counsel.) 
MS. WEBSTER:  Ms. Holland, I'm sorry, can we see 2300 
at 435.  
And thank you, Ms. Chaiken, for the help.  I 
appreciate it.  
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BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
So do you see that this is a Google Doc link at the 
bottom of page 435 here? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And are you familiar with how Google documents work? 
A.
A little bit. 
Q.
And -- well, are you familiar with -- that if you enter 
in information, it automatically saves and that sort of thing? 
A.
Yes.
MS. WEBSTER:  Ms. Holland, can we see the top of the 
next page where he says, When you get employees, add them in 
here. 
BY MS. WEBSTER:
Q.
Correct? 
A.
Yes, I do see that. 
Q.
Okay.  Agent Stites, did you ever actually click on that 
link, that Google Docs link? 
A.
I did not.  
Q.
So you're not aware that that document's actually 
completely blank? 
A.
I am not aware.  I did not click on the link. 
Q.
Okay.  Did you see a response from Teldrin Foster where 
he says, Okay, great, I'm going to put all the employees in 
here? 
A.
You want to scroll down and I'll look at this.
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Just a lot of phone calls. 
Q.
But no affirmative responses; is that right? 
A.
I don't know what was talked about in the phone calls, 
but there's several incoming calls. 
Q.
Okay.  Do you see that the date of this message -- When 
you get employees, add them in here, what date is that?
A.
7/14. 
Q.
At what time?
A.
11:31 p.m. 
Q.
And when is the next phone call? 
A.
Next day.  The next day. 
Q.
It's approximately 24 hours later; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
And just to clarify, when the government asked you on 
redirect about how you had to actually get a search warrant to 
get e-mails; right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
You can't just subpoena them; right? 
A.
Correct. 
Q.
Okay.  And, you know, I asked a lot of questions if you 
had subpoenaed e-mails; is that right? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Just to be clear, did you get search warrants for those 
e-mails? 
A.
No. 
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Was there -- to go to the deposit that we were discussing 
about -- into the Pyfrom Exclusive Consulting account, do you 
remember that deposit? 
A.
Yes.
Q.
Were there, to your knowledge, any communications with 
Teldrin Foster about that deposit? 
A.
I'm not aware of any. 
Q.
And did you see any communication between Gena 
Pyfrom-Foster and Darrell Thomas about concealing the source 
of that deposit? 
A.
No. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Can I have one second, Your Honor?  
THE COURT:  Sure.  
MS. WEBSTER:  No further questions.  
THE COURT:  Any redirect?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  No, Your Honor. 
MR. MARSHALL:  No, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Sir, you can step down.
Please call your next witness.  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, the United States rests.  
THE COURT:  All right.  Very well.  
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if you could please 
step out for a moment. 
(The jury exited the courtroom at 4:49 p.m.) 
THE COURT:  Y'all can be seated.  
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All right.  Are there any motions?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, Your Honor.  We have a Rule 29 
motion on behalf of Mr. Foster. 
THE COURT:  Go ahead. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Starting first with the money 
laundering count that's Count 59, I think that the evidence 
shows that Mr. Foster had no knowledge that it was occurring  
and had no idea that it had happened.  
The only evidence that the government has pointed to 
has been his statement, which happened -- or which occurred 
many months after this deposit, while the evidence shows that 
Gena Pyfrom-Foster set up that account for purposes of her 
relationship with Darrell Thomas, and there's no indication 
that Mr. Foster was involved in that or knew about it.  
Also, I don't think the government can or has 
established that the purpose of that transaction was to 
conceal the source of the deposit.  It's charged as 
concealment, money laundering, and, therefore, the government 
has to prove that the purpose, not just the effect, was to 
conceal the source or the nature of the unlawful funds.  
And there's certainly no evidence that there was any 
discussion about that or that that was the purpose of it, as 
opposed to the purpose being simply just to pay Ms. Pyfrom for 
her activity on behalf of Mr. Thomas.  
That's my argument as to the money laundering count.  
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Your Honor, as to the remaining conspiracy counts and 
the substantive counts, the government has -- while I 
recognize the e-mails and WhatsApp messages have been 
introduced -- that the government has introduced e-mails and 
WhatsApp communications, the government hasn't brought a 
single witness who can actually say that Mr. Foster was the 
one using those e-mails or those WhatsApp -- that WhatsApp 
account.  And so I think that there's insufficient evidence 
for those counts to go back to the jury as well.  
THE COURT:  All right.  Thank you.  
Mr. Marshall, any motions?  
MR. MARSHALL:  Yes, Judge.  A Rule 29 motion for 
acquittal on both counts, 46 and 47.  A general insufficiency 
of evidence argument, Judge.  
Just to remind the Court, this is United States v. 
Hawkins, Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals.  It's at -- well, 
this is a 859 Fed.Appx. Case 415.  
When a defendant has challenged the sufficiency of 
the evidence, which I'm about to, by an appropriate motion for 
judgment of acquittal, the Court must determine whether a 
reasonable jury could have found the defendant guilty beyond a 
reasonable doubt.  In doing so, the appellate court views the 
evidence in the light most favorable to the government and all 
reasonable inferences and credibility choices are made in the 
government's favor.  The jury's verdict cannot be overturned 
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if any reasonable construction of the evidence would have 
allowed the jury to find the defendant guilty beyond a 
reasonable doubt.  
So the evidence against Ms. Jackson, Your Honor, is 
this:  It's based on a knock-and-talk interview.  And I'll get 
back to that in just a second.  This is the basis of trying to 
satisfy the elements of the offense for money laundering 
concealment.  
A walk-and-talk (sic) interview and answers that she 
gave or didn't give.  
The two deposits that were made into her business 
account for Management Resource Services.  
Deposits by themselves, Judge, aren't evidence of a 
knowledge of the source being an illegal activity or that the 
deposits themselves show that the purpose of those deposits 
being in that account are to conceal for some illegal 
activity.  
The next evidence that the government has, they 
referenced withdrawals that were made in the amount of about 
$30,000 from that Management Resource Services bank account 
during the same month that the deposits were made.  There were 
three separate $10,000 cashier's checks that appeared to be 
all related to John Gaines.  Withdrawals from an account are 
not evidence that my client knew about the illegal source of 
these funds that came in from Gaines Reservation & Travel, or 
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that she knew about the concealment purpose, any kind of 
concealment purpose for such funds.  The withdrawals have 
nothing to do with it.  They don't provide any sufficient 
evidence to prove that.  
The government also introduced several bank 
statements that showed low monthly bank balances in the 
Management Resource Services bank account.  I know many people 
that have low bank accounts, Judge, low bank balances, and 
sometimes they get a big project and all of a sudden they have 
a big balance.  Low bank balances is not indicia of someone's 
knowledge that the source of funds that came into their 
account came from illegal activity.  In this case wire fraud 
is what's alleged.  
After that, Judge, the other things that the Court 
(sic) does not have to provide any evidence, it was repeated 
over and over again, that there were no e-mails, no call logs, 
no phone recordings, no text messages, no WhatsApp messages 
that involved Carla Jackson at all.  No messages from her, to 
her or about her related to the two most important elements.  
And I'm going to cite the main elements for money laundering, 
Judge.  
In United States v. Alexander, it's an Eleventh 
Circuit case, 857 Fed.Appx. 592.  
THE COURT:  One moment, Mr. Marshall.  
Go ahead. 
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MR. MARSHALL:  592.  That's a 2021 case, Judge.  
Headnote 4.  These are the main elements, and then I'm going 
to segue into our proposed jury instruction also, Judge.  
To prove the offense of concealment money laundering 
under 18 USC 1956(a)(1)(B)(i), the government must determine 
that, number one, the defendant or -- conducted or attempted 
to conduct a financial transaction.  That's the first element 
that has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  
Number two, the transaction involved the proceeds of 
a statutorily-specified unlawful activity.  In this case, 
they're alleging wire fraud.  
The third element that has to be proven beyond a 
reasonable doubt is that the defendant knew the proceeds were 
from some form of illegal activity.  Proof beyond a reasonable 
doubt.  
And number four, the defendant knew a purpose of the 
transaction was to conceal or disguise the nature, location, 
source, ownership or control of the proceeds.  And that 
Federal Appendix case of Alexander cites to United States v. 
Miles, M-I-L-E-S.  That's 290 F.3d, 1341.  And the point cite 
is page 1355.  That's a 2002 case, Your Honor.  
Going to move over briefly to the proposed jury 
instruction.  And I only say that this is something that we 
are almost at an agreement on but perhaps not.  There is a 
request on the concealment part, the purpose part, that an 
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extra instruction be added, and that is this:  To prove the 
element of concealment, the government must prove that the 
purpose, not merely the effect, was to conceal or disguise the 
nature, location, source, ownership or control of the 
proceeds.  Evidence of concealment must be substantial.  
Merely conducting a transaction with money whose nature has 
been concealed is not in and of itself a crime.  
And that is Cuellar, C-U-E-L-L-A-R, vs. United 
States.  It's the basis of that extra language.  That's a US 
Supreme Court case at 553 US 550.  It's a 2008 case.  And 
United States v. Johnson, an Eleventh Circuit case in 2006 at 
440 F.3d 1286.  
The government, Your Honor, has to prove beyond a 
reasonable doubt each of those elements.  The two that they 
cannot show in this case automatically -- in our opinion is 
that Ms. Jackson knew that these funds came from an illegal 
source.  
I'll go back to it again, Judge.  The Gaines 
Reservation & Travel, this is a basis of both of these counts, 
funds that came from an illegal loan disbursement from a PPP 
loan application from Andre Gaines.  He has not testified here 
at trial.  He has said nothing about my client.  There is 
nothing in the record to show that my client knew that this 
money was obtained fraudulently.  That's Andre Gaines, Judge.  
We also have nothing from Darrell Thomas who 
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communicated regularly with John Gaines and formed the basis 
of getting this fraudulent PPP loan application submitted.  
There are no communications, no testimony, because the 
government didn't call Darrell Thomas to see if my client had 
any knowledge whatsoever.  Again, no testimony from a key 
witness in this case, Judge.  
Now, I will comment briefly on the Roadrunner, Judge. 
THE COURT:  One moment.  
Ms. Lee, can you find our court security officer, 
please.  
Hi.  Can you let the jury know they're done for the 
day and we will see them tomorrow morning at 9:30 -- actually, 
make it 9:00, but tell them I can't promise them I'll bring 
them out right at 9:00.  All right.  Thank you.  
Go ahead, Mr. Marshall. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Judge, there was a reference to 
Roadrunner.  The Court knows that I filed a motion in limine 
to keep out any reference to Roadrunner coming into this 
trial.  The Court allowed some reference to Roadrunner as 
intrinsic evidence, primarily in the form of a bank signature 
card that showed John Gaines and Carla Jackson as signers on a 
bank account related to Roadrunner Automotive Group.  And then 
a bank statement that showed a deposit in the amount of about 
$71,000.  
There's no evidence again -- that's totally unrelated 
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to the two counts, by the way, Judge, so it's unrelated to 
determining whether sufficient evidence beyond a reasonable 
doubt whether Ms. Jackson is guilty of Counts 46 and 47.  
She's not charged with anything related to Roadrunner.  
So as a general overall argument for these elements, 
Judge, it's just not -- it's just not made, Judge.  They don't 
have those -- especially those two primary elements, that she 
knew the source of these funds came from an illegal activity, 
and, number two, that she knew beyond a reasonable doubt that 
the purpose of getting that money was to conceal the nature of 
the proceeds.  
These were open and wide accounts.  These weren't -- 
if you look at some of the cases involved, Judge, where they 
set up phony or shell companies and they move money back and 
forth between companies.  This is Gaines Reservation & Travel, 
it's right out in the open.  And then Management Resource 
Services, which had been in business for a long time.  This 
was not a complicated structuring of a financial transaction 
that tried to hide the proceeds.  This was out in the open.  
So I'd say for these two main elements, Your Honor, I 
just think this is not met.  
Now, I did want to raise a somewhat related -- an 
additional argument related to Count 46.  And this goes to my 
argument, or at least a reference during opening statement 
about the government charging Count 46 as wire fraud being the 
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underlying basis for the transaction.  
There was no wire transaction in Count 46.  It was 
somebody walking into a bank branch and depositing this check 
of approximately $155,000, an in-branch bank deposit of an 
actual check.  It wasn't a wire transaction.  It's pled and in 
the indictment in Count 46 as a wire transaction.  That's an 
error.  
What I'd argue on this count, Judge, in addition to 
that sufficiency of the evidence has not been met beyond a 
reasonable doubt by the government, is that this is a 
constructive amendment of the indictment.  
In this case, Judge, this is Carter vs. United 
States -- and excuse me -- this will be page 7.  I'll give the 
point cite here in a second, Judge.  This is Eleventh Circuit 
case, 2024 case.  It's a LEXIS case at this point, Judge.  US 
Appeals, LEXIS, page 17.  It was decided January 2nd, 2024.  
It has references to what's referred to as this is a case that 
deals with a fatal variance or a variance of allegations that 
are put forth in an indictment and what's presented at trial 
in proof.  And I wanted to focus on the constructive amendment 
argument.  
The Fifth Amendment provides that no person shall be 
held to answer for a capital or otherwise infamous crime 
unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury.  This 
clause does not permit a defendant to be tried on charges that 
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are not made in the indictment against him or convicted on 
theories that the indictment cannot fairly be read as 
charging.  
The constructive amendment of an indictment occurs 
when the essential elements of the offense contained in the 
indictment are altered, for instance, by a faulty jury 
instruction, to broaden the possible bases for conviction 
beyond what is contained in the indictment.  Such an error   
is per se reversible because it violates the defendant's 
constitutional right to be tried solely on the charges 
returned by the grand jury.  
All right.  So in this one, Judge, if you read the 
allegations in Count 46, it's alleging a wire fraud.  The 
evidence that's been presented at trial has nothing to do with 
a wire transfer that's done of that $155,000.  
We'd argue a constructive amendment issue, too, as 
part of our Rule 29 motion.  
That's it, Judge. 
THE COURT:  Thank you, Mr. Marshall.  
Ms. Chaiken?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, would you like me to take 
them one at a time?  
THE COURT:  Yes.
MS. CHAIKEN:  Okay.  I'll start in reverse order, 
Your Honor.
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As to the mistake in the indictment in Count 46, I 
don't think there's a constructive amendment or a material 
variance.  Constructive amendment occurs when an essential 
element is altered to broaden the possible bases for 
conviction.
The type of financial transaction is not an essential 
element of the offense.  A money laundering conviction 
requires that there be a financial transaction, but it does 
not require that there be a specific type of transaction or 
even a specific amount of transaction.  Those are not 
essential elements of the offense.  There just needs to be a 
financial transaction.  And so there's no constructive 
amendment there.      
A material variance occurs where the facts at trial 
are different than what's in the indictment, but a material 
variance only warrants dismissal of a charge if it 
substantially prejudices the defendant.  And that happens only 
when the defendant is unfairly surprised by the evidence at 
trial given the difference in facts to where he cannot meet 
it.  
And here the indictment in Count 46 specifically 
identifies the exact amount of the transaction, the bank 
account that it came from, the bank account that it went to, 
and the date on which that deposit or financial transaction 
occurred.  
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And so there's no surprise here.  Mr. Marshall 
obviously was well aware before this trial that there was an 
issue.  We had discussed it with him before.  There was no 
variance that surprised the defendant or prevented her from 
being able to defend this count because everything else in the 
indictment is correct except for the specific type of a 
transaction.  
Mr. Marshall also mentioned this error in his 
opening, such that he clearly understood that this was going 
to be -- that the trial was related to a check, as opposed to 
a wire transfer.  
And he didn't object to the admission of the check 
itself.  So we don't see how there could be a material 
variance that substantially prejudices Ms. Jackson's 
substantial rights.  
Substantively, as far as the evidence in the case, 
Your Honor, we think there's more than sufficient evidence on 
which a reasonable jury could return a guilty verdict.  
Specifically addressing the two elements that Mr. Marshall 
suggested have not been proven or could not be found to have 
been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, I think the Court 
doesn't need to look any further than Ms. Jackson's own 
statement to find that there's evidence in the record from 
which the jury could find that she knew that the money came 
from an illegal source and knew it was designed to conceal -- 
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knew the transaction was designed to conceal the nature, 
location, source or purpose of the funds, because there is 
nothing illegal about moving money from one account to the 
other.  And if Ms. Jackson really thought that this was just 
money that she was getting from Mr. Gaines or money that was 
for a project, she would have said that.  
But what she said when she was asked what the money 
was for was payroll.  That's the first word that she said, it 
was payroll.  And that's because she knew that payroll was the 
authorized purpose of the PPP program.  She knew that that was 
an authorized expense.  And she knew that that's what the 
money was supposed to be spent on.  
She told a lot of lies about what that money was for.  
She said she did not know Andre Gaines.  He was referred to 
her by a contractor.  She said they hadn't really planned the 
project yet, they didn't know what it was for.  But the 
evidence at trial established Gaines Reservation & Travel had 
no business, had no payroll, had no projects, had no money 
coming into its bank account.  
And so the evidence at trial proved beyond a 
reasonable doubt it couldn't have been for a project.  That 
was just made up because there was no business for Gaines 
Reservation & Travel to do a project on.  
And Ms. Jackson deposited a check on which the memo 
line was payroll and business management services, daily 
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business management, which there wasn't any.  She wasn't doing 
daily business management because there was no business to 
manage.  She wasn't doing payroll because there was no 
payroll.  
She then used that money to pay off Mr. Gaines's auto 
loans.  And I would note that those payments on the auto loans 
came before the second wire transfer.  So when the wire 
transfer came in and said that it was for payroll, at that 
point she knew it wasn't for payroll because she knew that she 
had been asked to make payments to pay off Mr. Gaines's auto 
loans.  She knew that Mr. Gaines for some reason couldn't pay 
off his auto loans from his own accounts, even though there's 
no reason why his auto loan payments would have to come 
through her accounts.  
So I think all of those circumstantial factors show 
that Ms. Jackson knew that the funds came from an illegal 
source.  And I would just emphasize, Your Honor, that she 
doesn't need to know what the specific source was.  She 
doesn't need to know that it came specifically from a PPP 
loan.  She just needs to know that it came from an illegal 
source.  
And the fact that she went to great lengths to make 
up a essentially of what the money was for and what the money 
was used for and to not mention who she actually communicated 
with about that loan was -- I think shows that she did know 
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that it came from an illegal source.  
We also presented evidence that all of the log-ins to 
the Gaines Reservation & Travel bank account were from 
Ms. Jackson's home.  That's additional evidence that she was 
aware of what was happening because it was happening inside of 
her own house after the time that the Gaines Reservation & 
Travel PPP loan funded.  
And, you know, Your Honor, this is -- these are 
exactly the types of charges where the case is proven on 
circumstantial evidence because it's incredibly rare for 
somebody to have text messages that they've exchanged with 
someone about how they're going to conceal funds.  
And so I think the circumstantial evidence here is 
strong that Ms. Jackson knew the funds came from some form of 
unlawful activity and knew based on what the transactions 
themselves said they were for and knowing that that's not 
actually what they were for, that they were designed to 
conceal the nature, location, source or purpose.  
As far as Mr. Foster, Your Honor, again, I don't 
think the Court needs to look any further than Mr. Foster's 
own words on the money laundering count.  He, himself, said 
that the payment that went through Ms. Pyfrom-Foster's account 
was a payment to him and that he is the one who got the money 
for it.  He said that that was because his account had gotten 
locked down and so it had gone through Ms. Pyfrom-Foster's 
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account.  
And it said that it was for payroll, business 
management, I think.  Said something about payroll.  And so, 
again, that was a transaction that went through Ms. Pyfrom's 
account, but he said that it was for him.  And I think his 
admission is sufficient to send that to the jury.  
As far as the other -- the other charges, again, 
Ms. Webster said we haven't presented any witness who said 
that it was him sending the e-mails, but he admitted in his 
recorded statement that he worked with Darrell Thomas on these 
PPP loans.  I think the circumstantial evidence that we 
presented is very strong that it was Mr. Foster himself who 
was doing this.  
We showed the records identifying his phone number as 
being his phone number.  We showed how the WhatsApp messages 
line up with the e-mail records.  And we showed the payments 
to him.  We showed his admission.  And all of that evidence I 
think fits together to show that he was -- that he knowingly 
participated in all of these PPP loans. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Thank you.  
I'm not persuaded by the constructive amendment 
material variance argument Mr. Marshall made.  Nor am I 
persuaded by either the Rule 29 motions more specifically as 
to each defendant.  I believe the evidence viewed in light 
most favorable to the government has been sufficient for a 
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rational trier of fact to find guilt beyond a reasonable 
doubt; therefore, the motions are denied.
Have you decided which order you're going to proceed 
with your cases in the morning, Ms. Webster, Mr. Marshall?  
MS. WEBSTER:  Yes, Your Honor.  I believe we are 
going to go first. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  And how many -- if you're able to 
tell us, how many witnesses do you anticipate calling and how 
long do you think that will last?  
MS. WEBSTER:  I anticipate three witnesses, Your 
Honor.  I think if -- it could last through the morning, but I 
don't anticipate it lasting beyond then.  
THE COURT:  Okay.  Mr. Marshall. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Judge, so we've had something come up 
with a witness that we intend to call, which is John Gaines.  
He's available.  His attorney in this case is Deana Wiley.  
And Ms. Wiley contacted the government and me this morning.  
She has tested positive for COVID and she was pretty ill this 
morning.  She went to the urgent care right away.  
And I just checked my phone right now and I believe 
she's had her first dose of Paxlovid.  Hopefully she'll be 
better tomorrow.  
My guess is, Judge, that for me to be able to call 
Mr. Gaines in to testify, Ms. Wiley has to be there for him.  
She says, I need to be there -- she's the only one that knows 
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the case -- to make sure his interests are protected.  He has 
still an open sentencing that has not been conducted.  So 
another attorney can't just sit in for her.  
I'm hoping that maybe what we can do is have 
Ms. Wiley participate by Zoom and be able to watch the 
proceeding.  And if there's -- an issue comes up, she can, you 
know, pipe in if she needs to.  But that's kind of where we 
are, Judge.  
Mr. Gaines can be available, but it's an issue of 
Ms. Wiley's availability.  And unless we can accommodate it 
through Zoom, I would move for a continuance for at least some 
period of time until she gets better. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Well, other than Mr. Gaines, 
how many other witnesses do you have and how long do you think 
that will take, assuming we can work through the Mr. Gaines 
issue?  
MR. MARSHALL:  I'd have to have a discussion with my 
client to see if she wants to testify.  I'll have that 
tonight.  But I would say the total time for Mr. Gaines might 
be, from my side, no more than an hour, you know.  I don't 
think it's going to be that long, Judge. 
THE COURT:  All right.  
Obviously, I think we have an issue if this involved 
one of the defendants in this case and their attorney, as far 
as their attorney being here in person.  I don't see any 
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issue, unless anyone wants to raise one, with a witness's 
attorney testifying remotely in this situation.
Any objection from the government?  
MR. KAUSHAL:  No objection, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Any objection from 
Mr. Foster?  
MS. WEBSTER:  No, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  And, Mr. Marshall, I assume you 
have no objection?  
MR. MARSHALL:  I have no objection. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  Ms. Lee, if you can set us up for 
Zoom tomorrow so that she'll be able to see us, we'll be able 
to see her.  And then I know we can do a -- you know, if we 
need to, I guess it wouldn't apply when he was up on the 
stand, but if there's -- at some point, if he needs to speak 
with her, we may need to have a second place where that can 
happen.  But it doesn't need to -- I think that's probably not 
a huge issue.  Okay?  
COURTROOM DEPUTY CLERK:  Okay. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Anything else for this 
evening, Counsel?  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Your Honor, there is one other issue, 
as you've heard that so many times in this trial, and I'm 
sorry to have to say it yet again.  
With Mr. Dixon, he has been appointed counsel by the 
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Court.  I'm not certain if he has had an opportunity to speak 
with his attorney.  He may not even know why he is coming to 
this courthouse.  And there may need to be some time that he 
needs to speak with his lawyer.  
We have no idea what the substance of his testimony 
might be and, therefore, can't really say what issues might 
arise if he is called to testify.  And we think it makes sense 
to have a discussion about what the defense intends to elicit 
from Mr. Dixon so that we can have an educated discussion 
about what issues may come up during his testimony. 
THE COURT:  Ms. Webster, I'll let you respond to 
that. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Thank you, Your Honor.  
Stephen Burn has been appointed to represent 
Mr. Dixon.  He has not, to my knowledge, had an opportunity to 
meet with him.  My understanding is that the Court has 
directed that he be brought over tomorrow from RAD.  And so I 
believe that Mr. Burn is planning to speak with him at 9:00 
tomorrow.  And we would ask to be -- to have some time 
tomorrow morning to be able to meet with Mr. Dixon or Mr. Burn 
after he has a chance to speak with Mr. Dixon, a brief break. 
THE COURT:  Well, you know, when either of y'all 
speak to anyone, it doesn't matter to me, but we need to move 
this trial along.  So I guess you need to call one of your 
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know, if we have breaks for anybody on either side to talk to 
anybody on either -- the other side they want, you know, I'm 
happy for y'all to do that, but we're not going to, you know, 
take long breaks.  
And it sounds like, Mr. Kaushal, Ms. Webster has 
declined your offer to give a proffer of what she intends to 
elicit from Mr. Dixon.  I'm not surprised that was her 
decision, but if you have some authority that tells us we have 
to twist her arm to tell you, I'm happy to look at it.  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Your Honor, I don't have authority for 
that, but I have a prediction that there will be some road 
bumps tomorrow and that's going to slow us down.  All I'm 
trying to do is to facilitate a smooth completion of this 
trial so that we don't have to inconvenience Your Honor and 
the jury with more stops and starts like we've had.  So it's 
just an effort to work through the issues, Your Honor.  I 
understand the Court's view and defense counsel's. 
THE COURT:  I appreciate that.  I don't think there's 
anything I can do to force her hand and, you know, I -- y'all 
know more about the case and what you're talking about than I 
do.  I'm not sure what your issue may be, but I -- you know, I 
would encourage everyone to be efficient as always.  But at 
the same time, you know, nobody has to do what the law doesn't 
require them to do.  So there you go.  
All right.  So anything else we anticipate needing to 
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discuss tomorrow before I bring the jury in at 9:00 and 
Ms. Webster calls her first witness, other than Mr. Dixon?  
MS. CHAIKEN:  Your Honor, would you like us to be 
prepared to close tomorrow afternoon?  Or do you anticipate 
that however far we get tomorrow, we would do the charge 
conference and close on Wednesday?  
THE COURT:  I've flipped through the charge issues.  
Didn't look like they were all that heavy.  So why don't we 
see -- I hate to promise you, no, don't worry about closing 
tomorrow and then we're done at 1:00 and the charge conference 
takes 15 minutes.  So, you know, I'll be reasonable, but I 
just don't want to make any promises, I'm sorry. 
MS. CHAIKEN:  Okay.  
MR. MARSHALL:  Your Honor, should I plan on 
Mr. Gaines, if he -- you know, if he's going to be here, being 
here in the morning and available or at 1:00?  Is there -- 
THE COURT:  Well, I know you're going after 
Ms. Webster and she said that she anticipates that her 
witnesses will last most of the morning.  So best guess would 
be early afternoon.  But, you know, maybe Ms. Webster will go 
quicker and you'll need Mr. Gaines quicker, maybe she'll go 
slower and you won't.  I just don't know.  
MR. MARSHALL:  All right.  Okay, Judge.  
THE COURT:  I'd let you consult with Ms. Webster on 
that if you want any more details, but you have as much 
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information as I have. 
MR. MARSHALL:  Thank you, Judge. 
THE COURT:  Anything else?  
MS. WEBSTER:  No, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  Okay.  I hope everyone has a nice evening 
and I'll see you at 9:00 tomorrow morning.
Take care.
(Off-the-record discussion.)
THE COURT:  Yes, back on the record.
Yes, Mr. Kaushal.  
MR. KAUSHAL:  Thank you, Your Honor.  
I think we left open the discussion about the issue 
of the co-defendants' guilty pleas being admitted. 
THE COURT:  We had.  Therefore I was -- I was 
planning to circle back to that and I saw that you rested 
before we'd circled back to that, so I assumed that you 
decided not to enter that. 
MR. KAUSHAL:  I think we realized now, Your Honor, 
that perhaps we could have raised the issue before we rested.  
But it was something on our mind and it was something that was 
unresolved.  And if Your Honor is willing to issue a ruling on 
that, we would appreciate it.
We do believe -- 
THE COURT:  Well, let me hear from the defense on 
that.  I mean, I had it as an open item on my to-do list that 
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I was going to circle back to and you rested.  So defense -- I 
don't know if the defense is going to take issue with that or 
not. 
MS. WEBSTER:  Your Honor, we'd object to reopening 
the government's evidence after they've rested. 
THE COURT:  Mr. Marshall?  
MR. MARSHALL:  I'm sorry, Judge, I apologize.  
What's the question?  
THE COURT:  Yes.  The government rested before I 
ruled on or revisited the government's motion to introduce 
guilty pleas of various myriad co-defendants, which I thought 
was odd, but they did.  
Now apparently realizing that, they've asked to go 
back and do it now and have me rule on the issue.  And I said, 
well, let me hear from the defense. 
MR. MARSHALL:  So, Judge, their case is closed.  All 
the rulings should have been asked for and ruled upon by the 
time that they closed their case, Judge.  
THE COURT:  Well, this may be an issue in which you 
lose the battle but rejoin the war later.  I know that the 
defense plans to put on a case.  It may be that you put on 
some type of rebuttal case, Mr. Kaushal.  I don't know.  
But as far as right now, you've rested.  It may be 
that that's the end.  And if so, I can't -- I don't know that 
it's fair to reopen things for you.  
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But, again, it may be that the defense decides to put 
on a case and it may be that you have a rebuttal case that 
includes wanting to introduce those materials.  And if you do, 
I'll make a ruling on that at that time. 
MR. KAUSHAL:  Thank you, Your Honor.  
And just as a preview, we would be asking for the 
Court to take judicial notice of those guilty pleas if we 
eventually reach that day in the future for that event to 
occur.  That would be the requested relief, Your Honor. 
THE COURT:  All right.  Very well.  
Okay.  Everyone have a good evening. 
(After a recess at 5:27 p.m., proceedings were 
continued as follows on February 13, 2024:)
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C E R T I F I C A T E
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF GEORGIA
I do hereby certify that the foregoing pages are a true
and correct transcript of the proceedings taken down by me in 
the case aforesaid.
   This the 12th Day of February, 2024.  
    ________________________________
  
  
               
    PENNY PRITTY COUDRIET, RMR, CRR
    OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER 
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1,800 [2] - 132:5, 145:20
10 [4] - 81:12, 81:13, 81:14, 95:25
1000 [1] - 185:17
10:00 [2] - 181:18, 184:5
10:42 [4] - 113:12, 114:20, 116:18, 
140:1
10K [1] - 84:23
10TH [4] - 103:10, 130:8, 131:3, 153:8
1120 [2] - 90:2, 90:4
1125 [2] - 188:12
1146 [1] - 109:3
1151 [2] - 191:7, 191:18
1167 [1] - 187:14
11:00 [3] - 114:1, 114:23, 141:8
11:07 [2] - 117:6, 143:25
11:31 [1] - 199:9
11TH [2] - 105:17, 105:20
12 [2] - 68:11, 175:9
12-MINUTE [1] - 174:22
1286 [1] - 206:12
12:08 [1] - 118:11
12:51 [1] - 70:1
12:54 [1] - 71:14
12TH [1] - 226:9
13 [3] - 96:1, 174:19, 225:13
1341 [1] - 205:20
1355 [1] - 205:21
15 [1] - 222:11
17 [1] - 209:16
18 [1] - 205:5
1956(A)(1)(B)(I [1] - 205:5
1:00 [2] - 222:10, 222:16
1:20-CR-00296-JPB [1] - 68:5
1:47 [1] - 145:3
1K [2] - 164:13, 165:1
1ST [3] - 118:8, 121:10, 123:10
2
2 [5] - 83:13, 99:16, 124:2, 178:16, 
178:24
2002 [1] - 205:21
2006 [1] - 206:11
2008 [1] - 206:10
2019 [2] - 77:1, 114:2
2020 [52] - 84:8, 99:14, 103:10, 105:17, 
105:20, 109:10, 113:8, 114:1, 114:24, 
118:8, 121:10, 123:11, 130:5, 130:8, 
130:14, 131:1, 131:3, 132:8, 132:9, 
139:6, 144:13, 146:10, 146:15, 
146:20, 146:25, 147:10, 147:18, 
147:25, 148:15, 148:17, 149:7, 
149:21, 150:9, 150:14, 152:22, 153:6, 
154:5, 156:13, 158:8, 163:13, 164:3, 
165:9, 167:22, 168:6, 168:9, 174:13, 
184:23, 185:3, 192:2, 195:17, 195:20, 
196:13
2021 [4] - 131:5, 131:8, 131:10, 205:1
2022 [2] - 131:18, 132:23
2024 [5] - 68:11, 209:15, 209:16, 
225:13, 226:9
20TH [2] - 164:3, 165:9
2250E [2] - 87:7, 87:11
22A [1] - 116:21
22B [1] - 116:20
22ND [1] - 109:10
23 [2] - 96:3, 157:11
2300 [5] - 148:9, 152:24, 156:20, 
158:14, 197:22
2301 [1] - 84:5
2305 [2] - 85:11, 136:18
2306 [1] - 88:7
234 [1] - 148:9
2340 [5] - 157:7, 157:9, 157:12, 157:21, 
158:2
2340A [1] - 158:2
2341 [4] - 157:10, 157:12, 157:21, 159:6
2341A [1] - 159:20
2345 [2] - 138:6, 197:18
237 [1] - 148:21
24 [1] - 199:12
2400 [2] - 117:25, 121:4
249 [1] - 149:12
24TH [3] - 167:22, 168:6, 168:8
25 [3] - 90:14, 96:4, 96:5
27TH [2] - 84:8, 144:13
28TH [11] - 113:12, 114:1, 114:20, 
114:24, 116:17, 117:6, 140:1, 141:8, 
142:16, 142:21, 143:24
29 [4] - 201:2, 202:12, 210:17, 216:23
290 [1] - 205:20
2954 [1] - 152:4
29631 [1] - 152:14
29TH [2] - 113:8, 145:3
2:27 [1] - 120:20
2:42 [1] - 113:8
2:47 [1] - 120:21
227
2:48 [1] - 120:23
2ND [1] - 209:16
3
3 [3] - 83:14, 178:16, 178:24
3000 [2] - 157:13, 195:9
3002 [1] - 82:17
302 [1] - 76:11
336 [1] - 116:11
338 [2] - 116:10, 116:12
346 [2] - 99:11, 99:17
346-04-2822 [1] - 152:19
360 [1] - 98:1
38 [1] - 98:16
4
4 [4] - 95:23, 178:15, 179:11, 205:2
40 [1] - 120:6
4000 [8] - 160:15, 160:19, 160:20, 
161:3, 161:7, 161:18, 162:16, 163:19
4001 [3] - 141:13, 141:23, 142:9
4002 [2] - 144:5, 144:12
4003 [1] - 144:23
402 [2] - 89:1, 89:2
404(B [2] - 70:24, 71:4
404(B) [1] - 70:16
405 [1] - 96:21
406 [3] - 96:21, 97:4, 97:24
41 [1] - 96:8
414 [1] - 156:20
415 [1] - 202:17
417 [1] - 152:24
435 [3] - 158:14, 197:23, 198:3
440 [1] - 206:12
450 [1] - 107:19
451 [1] - 98:18
46 [11] - 187:22, 190:11, 202:13, 208:3, 
208:23, 208:25, 209:2, 209:6, 210:13, 
211:1, 211:21
47 [9] - 107:8, 108:4, 108:5, 108:7, 
108:9, 108:15, 190:11, 202:13, 208:3
49 [5] - 107:8, 107:18, 108:4, 108:5, 
108:7
4:20 [1] - 189:22
4:33 [2] - 189:23, 189:25
4:49 [1] - 200:24
4TH [2] - 130:14, 132:9
5
5 [3] - 95:24, 164:2, 176:12
50 [4] - 107:8, 108:4, 108:5, 108:7
51 [1] - 152:9
550 [1] - 206:10
553 [1] - 206:10
59 [3] - 102:22, 105:22, 201:6
592 [2] - 204:23, 205:1
5:27 [1] - 225:12
5TH [1] - 192:2
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6
6 [2] - 68:6, 109:4
608 [3] - 70:16, 70:23, 71:3
61 [1] - 106:22
6TH [3] - 132:8, 148:15, 148:23
7
7 [2] - 88:16, 209:13
7/11 [2] - 152:22, 153:6
7/14 [1] - 199:7
7200 [1] - 74:6
7TH [4] - 99:14, 148:17, 148:23, 174:13
8
8 [1] - 88:9
8/5 [2] - 152:16, 153:13
807 [7] - 91:19, 91:21, 93:5, 93:11, 
110:15, 110:23, 111:19
807'S [1] - 111:25
857 [1] - 204:23
859 [1] - 202:17
9
9 [2] - 88:9, 95:25
90 [1] - 1:5
902.11 [6] - 89:16, 97:4, 99:2, 114:7, 
144:5, 144:23
911 [1] - 152:14
941 [2] - 94:4, 114:2
941S [5] - 100:10, 100:11, 114:2, 115:7, 
117:18
9:00 [6] - 207:13, 207:14, 220:18, 
220:25, 222:1, 223:6
9:30 [1] - 207:12
9:40 [1] - 181:19
9TH [1] - 130:25
A
A.M [3] - 113:8, 118:11, 145:3
ABLE [13] - 78:17, 78:18, 79:10, 140:15, 
143:1, 183:1, 212:5, 217:7, 217:23, 
218:5, 219:12, 220:20
ABSOLUTELY [1] - 187:5
ACCESS [13] - 103:3, 106:17, 106:25, 
109:1, 109:22, 121:16, 125:22, 
131:17, 131:20, 132:19, 137:14, 
138:15, 139:13
ACCOMMODATE [1] - 218:10
ACCOUNT [92] - 86:10, 86:12, 88:12, 
89:10, 100:13, 102:21, 103:3, 103:7, 
103:13, 104:10, 105:6, 105:11, 
105:20, 105:24, 105:25, 109:13, 
109:20, 109:22, 111:6, 111:9, 115:4, 
117:1, 117:4, 117:9, 118:20, 121:8, 
125:12, 125:13, 125:15, 125:23, 
133:20, 135:25, 136:4, 136:7, 136:9, 
136:24, 137:3, 137:15, 137:18, 
138:16, 138:17, 139:5, 139:12, 140:5, 
140:9, 141:7, 141:20, 142:15, 142:22, 
142:24, 143:3, 143:6, 143:7, 143:15, 
143:24, 144:13, 144:19, 145:4, 
147:17, 148:19, 149:3, 149:10, 
150:10, 171:11, 171:12, 175:15, 
188:16, 190:16, 191:3, 192:6, 192:10, 
192:16, 200:2, 201:12, 202:8, 203:12, 
203:16, 203:20, 203:23, 204:7, 
204:12, 207:22, 211:23, 213:3, 
213:19, 215:3, 215:22, 215:24, 216:1, 
216:5
ACCOUNTING [1] - 123:12
ACCOUNTS [9] - 135:16, 156:24, 157:4, 
161:16, 174:1, 204:8, 208:12, 214:12, 
214:14
ACCURATE [10] - 74:22, 89:12, 90:21, 
104:15, 107:15, 110:11, 116:5, 
132:14, 132:15, 174:23
ACQUISITIONS [1] - 80:19
ACQUITTAL [2] - 202:13, 202:20
ACT [1] - 166:14
ACT [1] - 84:19
ACTING [1] - 166:9
ACTION [1] - 119:23
ACTIONS [1] - 72:2
ACTIVATED [1] - 154:3
ACTIVATION [1] - 152:20
ACTIVITIES [1] - 125:8
ACTIVITY [9] - 128:15, 201:24, 203:14, 
203:17, 204:12, 205:10, 205:14, 
208:8, 215:15
ACTUAL [7] - 175:24, 179:9, 179:18, 
179:23, 180:9, 183:6, 209:5
ACURA [2] - 75:23, 76:2
ADD [3] - 158:23, 198:11, 199:6
ADDED [1] - 206:1
ADDING [1] - 155:11
ADDITION [3] - 163:3, 196:23, 209:8
ADDITIONAL [3] - 179:25, 208:23, 
215:4
ADDRESS [16] - 72:7, 72:15, 72:18, 
73:1, 73:4, 73:7, 74:6, 85:3, 85:9, 
94:17, 135:10, 138:4, 152:12, 153:22, 
153:24
ADDRESSES [6] - 72:4, 72:21, 72:24, 
85:6, 100:19, 100:21
ADDRESSING [1] - 212:19
ADJECTIVE [1] - 123:3
ADMISSIBLE [1] - 110:23
ADMISSION [3] - 212:12, 216:6, 216:17
ADMISSIONS [1] - 125:8
ADMIT [28] - 75:1, 89:15, 90:25, 91:18, 
91:22, 97:3, 99:1, 104:19, 107:18, 
108:5, 110:15, 114:6, 116:8, 122:22, 
126:6, 126:15, 126:23, 126:24, 127:1, 
127:2, 134:7, 141:22, 144:5, 144:22, 
157:20, 161:6, 162:15
ADMITTED [25] - 75:6, 84:6, 89:19, 
95:2, 97:7, 99:5, 105:2, 108:4, 108:7, 
228
108:15, 112:22, 113:1, 114:10, 
116:15, 121:6, 134:6, 134:10, 142:3, 
144:9, 145:1, 157:25, 163:17, 187:17, 
216:9, 223:13
ADMITTING [1] - 123:16
ADVANCE [3] - 87:24, 113:19
ADVERTISING [1] - 96:1
ADVISE [1] - 183:1
AFFIDAVIT [1] - 172:24
AFORESAID [1] - 226:8
AFRICAN [1] - 184:25
AFRICAN-AMERICAN [1] - 184:25
AFTER [1] - 1:7
AFTERNOON [6] - 134:19, 134:20, 
190:5, 190:6, 222:4, 222:20
AGENT [33] - 78:17, 79:10, 95:8, 
108:17, 118:2, 121:3, 123:22, 124:21, 
127:11, 128:6, 129:17, 134:12, 
134:19, 139:17, 140:14, 141:6, 
142:12, 154:9, 154:21, 154:24, 156:2, 
156:9, 157:9, 161:16, 168:16, 172:19, 
185:19, 188:14, 190:5, 194:13, 195:5, 
195:12, 198:16
AGENT [6] - 72:1, 92:8, 113:3, 127:4, 
129:17, 129:19
AGENTS [2] - 129:20, 184:16
AGO [2] - 136:21, 172:21
AGREE [2] - 125:11, 178:1
AGREED [2] - 70:9, 70:11
AGREEMENT [3] - 183:9, 183:14, 
205:24
AGREEMENTS [1] - 180:22
AHEAD [16] - 71:22, 93:16, 112:19, 
120:7, 123:16, 123:19, 124:13, 128:6, 
140:21, 150:21, 150:24, 175:5, 
189:20, 201:4, 204:25, 207:15
AIN'T [2] - 166:11, 166:23
ALEEM [5] - 118:22, 119:8, 122:6, 
122:15, 124:23
ALEXANDER [2] - 204:22, 205:19
ALLEGATIONS [2] - 209:18, 210:13
ALLEGED [1] - 204:13
ALLEGING [2] - 205:11, 210:13
ALLOWED [2] - 203:2, 207:19
ALLUDED [1] - 127:3
ALMOST [3] - 163:13, 184:12, 205:24
ALTERED [2] - 210:6, 211:4
ALTERNATIVELY [1] - 91:17
AMENDMENT [8] - 209:11, 209:20, 
210:4, 210:16, 211:2, 211:3, 211:13, 
216:21
AMENDMENT [1] - 209:22
AMERICA [4] - 103:12, 104:5, 104:6, 
105:6
AMERICA [1] - 68:4
AMERICAN [1] - 184:25
AMOUNT [11] - 76:10, 78:5, 79:2, 88:18, 
171:12, 187:20, 192:2, 203:19, 
207:23, 211:10, 211:22
AN [1] - 1:2
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ANALYSIS [2] - 154:10, 156:9
ANALYST [1] - 154:23
ANALYZE [1] - 156:3
ANALYZED [1] - 156:10
AND [3] - 1:4, 1:7, 68:6
ANDRE [14] - 186:8, 186:9, 186:13, 
186:16, 187:24, 188:8, 188:19, 
188:21, 189:4, 190:18, 192:8, 206:21, 
206:24, 213:14
ANN [1] - 194:9
ANN [1] - 68:18
ANNOUNCED [1] - 84:18
ANSWER [7] - 128:4, 174:2, 180:1, 
183:17, 183:24, 196:24, 209:23
ANSWERED [4] - 83:2, 83:17, 174:10, 
181:17
ANSWERING [1] - 175:1
ANSWERS [1] - 203:9
ANTICIPATE [6] - 71:18, 217:8, 217:10, 
217:12, 221:25, 222:4
ANTICIPATES [1] - 222:18
ANY [1] - 1:9
APOLOGIES [2] - 71:20
APOLOGIZE [1] - 224:7
APP [4] - 109:9, 109:12, 109:17, 109:22
APPEALS [2] - 202:16, 209:16
APPEAR [11] - 74:22, 84:20, 89:13, 
90:21, 104:15, 107:15, 110:4, 110:11, 
113:24, 116:5, 122:6
APPEARANCES [1] - 68:13
APPEARED [2] - 84:3, 203:22
APPELLATE [1] - 202:22
APPENDIX [1] - 205:19
APPLICABLE [1] - 79:13
APPLICATION [14] - 84:16, 94:9, 
118:14, 146:14, 146:19, 146:24, 
164:1, 172:24, 186:6, 186:20, 187:6, 
206:21, 207:2
APPLICATION [1] - 185:23
APPLICATIONS [4] - 77:3, 93:24, 
127:14, 146:9
APPLIED [1] - 130:8
APPLY [2] - 86:4, 219:14
APPLYING [1] - 187:9
APPOINTED [2] - 219:25, 220:14
APPRECIATE [3] - 197:25, 221:18, 
223:22
APPROPRIATE [1] - 202:19
APRIL [6] - 118:8, 121:10, 123:10, 
130:4, 130:11, 196:13
ARE [1] - 1:8
ARGUABLY [1] - 71:8
ARGUE [4] - 126:18, 166:12, 209:8, 
210:16
ARGUMENT [7] - 201:25, 202:14, 208:5, 
208:23, 208:24, 209:21, 216:22
ARISE [2] - 71:18, 220:7
ARM [1] - 221:9
ARREST [1] - 151:7
ARRIVED [2] - 151:1, 151:2
ARTICLES [2] - 171:15, 171:24
ASIDE [1] - 112:16
ASPECTS [2] - 127:22, 128:8
ASSERTED [5] - 91:13, 111:20, 112:4, 
126:13, 127:8
ASSERTION [1] - 91:15
ASSISTANT [1] - 68:16
ASSOCIATE [1] - 118:25
ASSOCIATED [9] - 73:7, 79:23, 80:1, 
80:4, 86:13, 109:19, 161:9, 171:17, 
171:20
ASSUME [4] - 94:15, 103:20, 163:7, 
219:8
ASSUMED [2] - 112:23, 223:16
ASSUMES [1] - 111:21
ASSUMING [3] - 104:5, 105:24, 218:15
ASSURED [1] - 155:25
AT [1] - 70:1
ATLANTA [3] - 68:2, 68:25, 70:1
ATTACH [2] - 142:18, 144:15
ATTACHED [1] - 1:6
ATTACHING [1] - 1:9
ATTACHMENT [6] - 118:12, 158:7, 
159:24, 178:10, 179:10, 180:7
ATTACHMENTS [5] - 114:2, 115:6, 
117:18, 117:21, 159:22
ATTEMPTED [1] - 205:6
ATTORNEY [17] - 151:11, 170:25, 
174:13, 174:21, 174:25, 182:17, 
182:25, 193:18, 193:21, 194:4, 
217:16, 218:3, 218:24, 218:25, 219:2, 
220:2
ATTORNEY'S [2] - 178:22, 194:3
ATTORNEYS [1] - 68:16
ATTORNEYS [2] - 174:15, 193:23
AUGUST [4] - 130:8, 130:14, 131:10, 
132:9
AUTHORITY [3] - 191:11, 221:8, 221:10
AUTHORIZATION [2] - 155:8, 155:25
AUTHORIZED [2] - 213:10, 213:11
AUTO [2] - 96:8, 130:7
AUTO [5] - 214:5, 214:6, 214:10, 
214:12, 214:13
AUTOMATICALLY [2] - 198:8, 206:15
AUTOMOTIVE [3] - 171:6, 171:15, 
207:22
AVAILABILITY [1] - 218:10
AVAILABLE [7] - 84:17, 141:13, 141:16, 
194:8, 217:16, 218:9, 222:16
AWARE [15] - 78:1, 81:4, 87:17, 88:2, 
94:4, 103:18, 127:11, 127:15, 171:4, 
179:1, 198:19, 198:21, 200:7, 212:2, 
215:5
B
BABASIJIBOMI [1] - 68:15
BACK-DOOR [1] - 126:1
BACK-TO-BACK [1] - 181:18
229
BADGE [1] - 184:20
BAG [7] - 76:8, 76:14, 76:16, 77:14, 
78:9, 78:12, 78:14
BALANCE [1] - 204:10
BALANCES [3] - 204:6, 204:8, 204:10
BANK [5] - 103:12, 104:5, 104:6, 105:6, 
188:16
BANK [31] - 86:12, 100:12, 103:16, 
109:6, 109:19, 133:20, 171:11, 
173:24, 173:25, 188:18, 190:16, 
191:3, 192:3, 192:4, 192:5, 203:20, 
204:5, 204:6, 204:7, 204:8, 204:10, 
207:20, 207:22, 207:23, 209:3, 209:4, 
211:22, 211:23, 213:19, 215:3
BARBER [2] - 86:16, 86:23
BARS [3] - 82:1, 82:2, 82:15
BASED [17] - 78:11, 86:24, 101:6, 
101:23, 119:23, 124:6, 124:10, 125:5, 
138:11, 147:23, 154:20, 184:2, 
187:20, 192:7, 196:18, 203:5, 215:15
BASES [2] - 210:7, 211:4
BASING [2] - 196:17, 197:12
BASIS [12] - 102:21, 105:22, 106:1, 
161:11, 163:3, 186:1, 190:11, 203:6, 
206:9, 206:19, 207:1, 209:1
BATTLE [1] - 224:20
BE [2] - 1:3, 1:4
BECAME [1] - 84:17
BED [2] - 75:10, 78:25
BEDROOM [1] - 75:10
BEFORE [1] - 68:10
BEGAN [4] - 130:11, 132:8, 195:16, 
196:6
BEGINNING [8] - 129:18, 129:21, 138:8, 
162:3, 164:24, 171:18, 171:21, 172:7
BEHALF [2] - 201:3, 201:24
BEHALF [3] - 68:14, 68:17, 68:20
BEHIND [1] - 101:21
BELIEFS [1] - 121:24
BELLATOR [22] - 76:25, 80:11, 88:2, 
89:10, 90:7, 95:15, 95:23, 117:10, 
130:4, 134:22, 135:1, 135:11, 141:20, 
156:14, 156:16, 157:2, 158:9, 158:10, 
160:3, 164:17, 171:9, 196:11
BELLATOR [1] - 196:8
BELLEVIE [1] - 96:5
BELONGS [2] - 162:19, 163:4
BENTLEY [1] - 79:22
BERNI [4] - 154:9, 154:21, 154:24, 
156:2
BERNI'S [1] - 156:9
BEST [1] - 222:19
BETTER [3] - 181:20, 217:22, 218:12
BETWEEN [43] - 82:21, 85:9, 92:9, 
92:16, 93:19, 102:14, 104:8, 104:13, 
104:16, 107:12, 107:16, 119:8, 122:6, 
122:14, 124:23, 132:1, 132:5, 135:4, 
135:7, 136:21, 137:4, 137:19, 138:9, 
143:11, 145:20, 157:17, 160:23, 
163:1, 163:21, 167:22, 167:25, 168:4, 
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178:13, 179:12, 183:15, 186:6, 
189:15, 190:17, 196:19, 197:21, 
200:8, 208:15
BEYOND [14] - 202:21, 203:2, 205:8, 
205:12, 205:14, 206:13, 208:2, 208:9, 
209:9, 210:8, 212:21, 213:20, 217:1, 
217:12
BIG [6] - 113:16, 125:10, 125:15, 
188:22, 204:9, 204:10
BIGGER [1] - 115:17
BILL [1] - 155:6
BINDER [10] - 74:10, 90:9, 96:12, 
109:24, 113:14, 113:16, 115:13, 
115:17, 115:19, 160:16
BINDERS [1] - 176:11
BIRTH [2] - 152:15, 153:12
BIT [4] - 80:7, 80:8, 184:21, 198:6
BITCH [2] - 166:9, 166:14
BLAKELY [2] - 74:2, 96:18
BLANK [2] - 118:14, 198:20
BOARD [1] - 95:24
BODY [1] - 84:24
BOOK [1] - 77:12
BOOKS [1] - 176:24
BORROWER [1] - 118:14
BORROWER [1] - 185:22
BOTTOM [4] - 148:11, 166:5, 178:11, 
198:3
BOUGHT [4] - 81:21, 82:1, 82:2, 82:13
BOULEE [1] - 68:10
BOUT [3] - 113:5, 114:14, 139:22
BOUT [2] - 114:18, 166:10
BOX [3] - 76:19, 79:6, 84:14
BOY [1] - 113:12
BRACELET [1] - 78:25
BRANCH [2] - 209:3, 209:4
BREAK [11] - 71:17, 71:20, 71:21, 
120:5, 120:7, 120:10, 121:15, 134:4, 
189:20, 189:21, 220:21
BREAKS [3] - 120:9, 221:1, 221:4
BRENDA [3] - 134:23, 135:4, 135:10
BREONNA [1] - 185:10
BRIDGE [1] - 71:9
BRIEF [1] - 220:21
BRIEFLY [5] - 80:7, 176:18, 192:23, 
205:22, 207:7
BRING [7] - 71:13, 120:22, 151:11, 
189:24, 194:13, 207:13, 222:1
BRO [1] - 167:1
BROADEN [2] - 210:7, 211:4
BROKE [2] - 132:22
BROT [2] - 97:21, 97:23
BROT [1] - 97:23
BROTHERS [1] - 97:13
BROUGHT [2] - 202:5, 220:17
BUMPS [1] - 221:12
BURN [1] - 220:14
BURN [2] - 220:18, 220:20
BUSINESS [39] - 79:13, 79:15, 80:12, 
84:9, 84:21, 84:22, 85:15, 86:1, 86:24, 
90:14, 105:6, 138:4, 140:16, 142:6, 
142:13, 142:14, 142:19, 144:2, 
145:18, 148:18, 156:1, 171:8, 172:6, 
173:9, 173:23, 175:13, 181:15, 
186:23, 187:2, 203:11, 208:17, 
213:18, 213:22, 213:25, 214:1, 214:2, 
216:2
BUSINESSES [8] - 81:16, 143:10, 
148:4, 149:10, 149:14, 149:18, 
149:25, 150:11
BUY [2] - 81:17, 81:20
BY [84] - 1:4, 1:6, 68:23, 71:25, 75:8, 
82:19, 83:15, 84:7, 85:13, 86:8, 87:12, 
88:10, 88:17, 89:20, 92:7, 93:18, 95:6, 
96:24, 97:8, 98:9, 99:7, 104:1, 105:4, 
108:16, 109:5, 113:2, 114:12, 114:17, 
116:16, 118:1, 121:2, 123:21, 124:20, 
127:10, 128:10, 129:16, 134:18, 
136:19, 138:7, 139:16, 141:3, 141:17, 
142:11, 144:11, 145:2, 148:10, 
148:22, 149:13, 150:8, 152:5, 152:11, 
153:1, 156:21, 157:8, 158:3, 158:15, 
158:21, 159:7, 159:15, 159:21, 
161:15, 163:20, 164:23, 165:6, 166:7, 
166:18, 167:7, 167:21, 168:15, 
172:18, 175:19, 179:13, 183:19, 
185:18, 187:16, 188:13, 190:4, 191:8, 
191:25, 192:22, 194:12, 195:11, 
198:1, 198:13
C
CALLOUT [2] - 84:14, 85:14
CAN.. [1] - 92:6
CANNOT [4] - 202:25, 206:15, 210:2, 
211:19
CAPITAL [1] - 209:23
CAPITAL [1] - 80:19
CAR [3] - 79:18, 79:21, 151:10
CARD [15] - 84:24, 154:3, 155:7, 155:8, 
155:10, 155:12, 155:13, 155:21, 
164:9, 165:2, 165:7, 165:16, 165:18, 
184:7, 207:21
CARDHOLDER [3] - 156:1, 156:7, 
156:10
CARDS [2] - 77:8, 165:16
CARE [2] - 217:19, 223:7
CARES [1] - 84:19
CARLA [23] - 72:9, 171:12, 172:5, 
186:10, 186:16, 186:20, 187:25, 
188:3, 188:5, 188:8, 189:10, 189:15, 
190:19, 190:21, 191:2, 191:17, 192:9, 
192:13, 192:18, 194:18, 194:20, 
204:18, 207:21
CARLA [2] - 68:6, 68:20
CAROLINA [1] - 152:14
CARS [1] - 76:4
CARTER [1] - 209:12
CASE [56] - 72:21, 73:24, 80:8, 125:10, 
125:16, 125:19, 129:17, 129:19, 
230
129:20, 132:18, 132:24, 150:18, 
168:20, 172:20, 173:4, 173:10, 
173:16, 173:20, 179:16, 181:2, 
181:23, 182:2, 182:3, 193:24, 202:17, 
204:12, 204:23, 205:1, 205:10, 
205:19, 205:21, 206:10, 206:11, 
206:15, 207:6, 209:12, 209:15, 
209:17, 212:16, 215:9, 217:16, 218:1, 
218:24, 221:20, 224:16, 224:18, 
224:21, 224:22, 225:2, 226:8
CASES [2] - 208:13, 217:4
CASH [4] - 109:9, 109:12, 109:17, 
109:22
CASH [13] - 76:8, 76:9, 76:10, 76:14, 
76:15, 76:16, 79:2, 79:3, 79:4, 79:6, 
86:24, 108:18
CASH-BASED [1] - 86:24
CASHIER'S [1] - 203:22
CELL [3] - 154:10, 177:4, 178:4
CELLEBRITE [2] - 157:18, 161:4
CELLPHONE [11] - 131:17, 136:2, 
136:5, 136:7, 136:10, 136:13, 168:23, 
169:24, 170:8, 175:12, 177:21
CENTRAL [2] - 154:23, 154:25
CERTAIN [3] - 155:5, 194:2, 220:1
CERTAINLY [2] - 134:2, 201:21
CERTIFICATE [2] - 158:8, 191:10
CERTIFICATION [4] - 89:16, 97:4, 99:2, 
114:7
CERTIFY [1] - 226:6
CHAIKEN [117] - 68:14, 75:3, 89:17, 
91:1, 91:5, 91:12, 92:20, 92:25, 93:10, 
95:1, 97:5, 99:3, 104:21, 107:20, 
110:20, 110:22, 111:18, 112:2, 
112:20, 114:8, 116:13, 122:24, 
123:17, 124:4, 125:24, 126:12, 127:7, 
128:3, 129:7, 129:13, 134:8, 134:14, 
134:18, 136:18, 136:19, 138:6, 138:7, 
139:15, 139:16, 140:13, 140:20, 
140:23, 141:2, 141:3, 141:13, 141:16, 
141:17, 141:22, 142:5, 142:9, 142:11, 
144:4, 144:10, 144:11, 144:22, 145:2, 
148:8, 148:10, 148:21, 148:22, 
149:12, 149:13, 150:7, 150:8, 152:3, 
152:5, 152:9, 152:11, 152:23, 153:1, 
156:19, 156:21, 157:7, 157:8, 157:20, 
158:1, 158:3, 158:14, 158:15, 158:19, 
158:21, 159:6, 159:7, 159:13, 159:15, 
159:19, 159:21, 161:6, 161:15, 
162:15, 163:11, 163:18, 163:20, 
164:21, 164:23, 165:4, 165:6, 166:4, 
166:7, 166:16, 166:18, 167:5, 167:7, 
167:19, 167:21, 168:12, 168:14, 
168:15, 172:9, 172:12, 179:4, 200:16, 
200:20, 210:21, 210:24, 222:3, 222:13
CHAIKEN [24] - 71:3, 71:7, 91:11, 
94:25, 110:19, 111:16, 112:1, 112:10, 
123:14, 124:13, 126:10, 127:5, 
129:12, 150:6, 160:18, 161:13, 163:6, 
163:10, 172:21, 175:16, 176:9, 
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180:22, 197:24, 210:20
CHAIN [1] - 78:22
CHAINS [2] - 75:11, 96:18
CHALLENGED [1] - 202:18
CHANCE [4] - 113:22, 176:3, 176:16, 
220:21
CHANGE [2] - 150:15, 167:1
CHANGED [2] - 133:11, 133:23
CHARGE [10] - 106:1, 155:15, 155:16, 
155:20, 155:22, 156:6, 211:16, 222:5, 
222:7, 222:10
CHARGED [10] - 95:19, 95:22, 96:6, 
130:1, 132:18, 133:13, 155:12, 195:1, 
201:17, 208:4
CHARGES [10] - 133:11, 133:13, 
133:16, 133:23, 155:16, 186:1, 
209:25, 210:10, 215:9, 216:7
CHARGING [2] - 208:25, 210:3
CHART [3] - 82:24, 155:2, 168:2
CHECK [11] - 187:15, 187:20, 187:25, 
188:3, 188:5, 188:8, 209:3, 209:5, 
212:10, 212:12, 213:24
CHECKED [1] - 217:20
CHECKS [1] - 203:22
CHOICES [1] - 202:24
CHOSE [2] - 173:9, 187:2
CIRCLE [2] - 223:15, 224:1
CIRCLED [1] - 223:16
CIRCLES [1] - 162:8
CIRCUIT [4] - 202:16, 204:23, 206:11, 
209:14
CIRCULAR [1] - 111:20
CIRCUMSTANTIAL [4] - 214:15, 
215:10, 215:13, 216:11
CITE [1] - 1:5
CITE [3] - 204:20, 205:20, 209:14
CITES [1] - 205:19
CLARIFICATION [1] - 114:16
CLARIFICATION [1] - 183:16
CLARIFIED [1] - 70:13
CLARIFY [3] - 134:7, 169:1, 199:14
CLAUSE [2] - 110:15, 209:25
CLEAR [7] - 79:25, 81:2, 95:8, 98:10, 
100:5, 196:15, 199:23
CLEARLY [1] - 212:9
CLEMSON [1] - 152:14
CLERK [1] - 219:19
CLICK [2] - 198:16, 198:21
CLIENT [5] - 203:24, 206:22, 206:23, 
207:4, 218:18
CLIP [2] - 87:13, 102:25
CLIPS [1] - 134:5
CLOSE [3] - 120:11, 222:4, 222:6
CLOSED [2] - 224:16, 224:18
CLOSING [1] - 222:9
CM/ECF [2] - 1:3, 1:5
CO [2] - 223:13, 224:11
CO-DEFENDANTS [1] - 224:11
CO-DEFENDANTS' [1] - 223:13
COINS [1] - 78:22
COLLECT [3] - 165:2, 165:19, 165:25
COLLECTED [1] - 168:20
COLLECTING [1] - 164:18
COLUMN [4] - 83:2, 83:6, 152:17, 
152:20
COMBINATION [1] - 101:6
COMFORT [1] - 189:20
COMFORTABLE [1] - 184:1
COMING [7] - 175:15, 188:23, 192:10, 
192:15, 207:18, 213:19, 220:2
COMMENT [1] - 207:7
COMMUNICATE [2] - 83:10, 83:17
COMMUNICATED [4] - 83:21, 191:2, 
207:1, 214:24
COMMUNICATES [1] - 189:10
COMMUNICATING [4] - 100:15, 139:9, 
154:6, 196:6
COMMUNICATION [2] - 170:22, 200:8
COMMUNICATIONS [42] - 84:1, 84:3, 
92:9, 93:20, 93:23, 128:14, 131:25, 
132:2, 133:2, 133:6, 168:2, 170:5, 
170:9, 173:8, 177:22, 186:5, 186:9, 
186:19, 187:5, 187:7, 187:8, 187:23, 
187:24, 188:2, 188:7, 188:21, 188:25, 
189:4, 189:12, 190:12, 190:13, 
190:17, 192:8, 192:12, 192:18, 
194:18, 194:20, 196:19, 197:5, 200:5, 
202:5, 207:3
COMPANIES [14] - 80:24, 81:1, 87:20, 
92:17, 93:21, 93:23, 94:2, 94:6, 96:10, 
97:16, 97:25, 194:9, 208:14, 208:15
COMPANY [11] - 80:19, 95:18, 99:18, 
117:12, 134:22, 141:18, 169:21, 
170:19, 191:4, 191:14, 194:24
COMPLETE [3] - 163:12, 179:6, 196:24
COMPLETED [2] - 90:14, 95:12
COMPLETED [14] - 91:16, 91:25, 92:1, 
146:9, 146:14, 146:19, 146:24, 147:3, 
147:14, 147:21, 149:6, 149:19, 195:24
COMPLETELY [1] - 198:20
COMPLETION [1] - 221:13
COMPLICATED [1] - 208:18
COMPLIES [1] - 141:5
COMPUTER [5] - 77:19, 168:24, 169:24, 
170:8, 197:9
COMPUTERS [1] - 177:4
CONCEAL [12] - 189:6, 190:14, 201:17, 
201:20, 203:16, 205:17, 206:3, 
208:10, 212:25, 213:1, 215:12, 215:18
CONCEALED [2] - 184:19, 206:7
CONCEALING [2] - 128:14, 200:9
CONCEALMENT [8] - 201:18, 203:8, 
204:1, 204:2, 205:4, 205:25, 206:2, 
206:5
CONCLUDING [1] - 161:11
CONCLUSIONS [2] - 196:17, 197:13
CONDUCT [1] - 205:7
CONDUCTED [2] - 205:6, 218:2
CONDUCTING [2] - 129:23, 206:6
231
CONFERENCE [2] - 222:6, 222:10
CONFIRM [3] - 111:11, 140:15, 193:17
CONFIRMED [1] - 168:22
CONSENT [2] - 112:10, 175:11
CONSISTENT [3] - 100:1, 143:5, 148:2
CONSPIRACY [3] - 80:18, 100:7, 202:1
CONSTITUTE [1] - 91:22
CONSTITUTIONAL [1] - 210:10
CONSTRUCTION [1] - 203:1
CONSTRUCTIVE [8] - 209:11, 209:20, 
210:4, 210:16, 211:2, 211:3, 211:12, 
216:21
CONSULT [1] - 222:24
CONSULTING [9] - 90:14, 95:12, 
102:21, 103:7, 104:10, 105:7, 105:11, 
133:20, 200:2
CONSULTING [5] - 91:16, 96:9, 147:3, 
149:6, 149:19
CONTACTED [2] - 193:23, 217:17
CONTACTING [1] - 188:22
CONTAINED [2] - 210:5, 210:8
CONTENT [2] - 126:19, 169:5
CONTEXT [1] - 87:5
CONTEXTUALLY [1] - 101:6
CONTINUANCE [1] - 218:11
CONTINUE [1] - 168:9
CONTINUED [10] - 101:24, 120:21, 
130:19, 130:22, 131:13, 131:15, 
138:23, 175:1, 189:23, 225:13
CONTINUING [2] - 95:25, 148:12
CONTRACTOR [1] - 213:15
CONTRACTS [2] - 90:14, 95:12
CONTRACTS [6] - 91:16, 92:1, 147:3, 
147:14, 147:21, 149:19
CONTRADICTORY [1] - 123:12
CONTRADICTS [1] - 121:23
CONTRAST [1] - 181:6
CONTROL [4] - 81:3, 167:4, 205:18, 
206:4
CONTROLLED [2] - 80:24, 157:5
CONTROLLING [4] - 136:23, 136:24, 
137:1, 137:17
CONVERSATION [16] - 88:21, 124:23, 
125:5, 136:20, 136:25, 137:6, 137:9, 
137:18, 138:8, 154:20, 162:1, 163:21, 
166:19, 167:16, 174:16, 175:10
CONVERSATIONS [1] - 101:19
CONVERSION [3] - 139:25, 148:24, 
153:7
CONVERTED [1] - 154:25
CONVICTED [1] - 210:1
CONVICTION [3] - 210:7, 211:5, 211:7
COOL [1] - 166:14
COOPER [1] - 160:5
COPIES [5] - 74:22, 104:15, 107:15, 
110:11, 116:5
COPY [10] - 76:24, 84:24, 89:12, 91:8, 
92:5, 95:4, 110:17, 180:10, 193:7, 
193:15
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CORP [1] - 96:5
CORPORATE [2] - 90:5, 90:6
CORRECT [155] - 72:16, 72:19, 73:2, 
73:3, 73:5, 73:6, 73:12, 73:14, 73:25, 
74:1, 74:5, 74:7, 77:10, 78:4, 78:6, 
80:13, 80:15, 80:17, 82:25, 83:10, 
83:19, 83:22, 85:2, 85:6, 85:7, 85:10, 
85:24, 85:25, 86:2, 86:16, 86:20, 
86:25, 88:1, 89:25, 93:24, 95:10, 
95:11, 97:18, 100:3, 102:6, 102:11, 
102:13, 102:22, 103:17, 105:25, 
106:3, 106:4, 107:5, 107:6, 108:20, 
109:1, 109:16, 114:15, 114:21, 
114:24, 115:2, 115:5, 115:8, 115:9, 
116:18, 117:2, 117:5, 117:7, 117:10, 
117:13, 117:14, 117:19, 118:4, 118:5, 
118:6, 118:8, 118:15, 119:3, 119:5, 
119:9, 119:22, 119:24, 121:6, 121:9, 
121:10, 121:13, 121:16, 122:17, 
124:17, 127:14, 130:9, 130:15, 
130:17, 130:18, 131:2, 131:18, 
131:19, 132:3, 132:6, 132:13, 133:15, 
133:25, 135:2, 136:21, 139:6, 140:2, 
145:19, 147:8, 147:15, 153:9, 156:12, 
169:12, 169:14, 171:10, 171:13, 
172:4, 173:4, 173:16, 174:4, 174:13, 
175:1, 175:22, 178:11, 180:12, 
180:13, 180:14, 180:20, 181:16, 
182:3, 182:13, 183:25, 184:23, 
184:25, 185:19, 186:2, 186:3, 187:1, 
187:6, 187:10, 187:11, 190:24, 
191:14, 191:15, 193:6, 193:21, 
193:22, 195:2, 196:3, 196:7, 196:17, 
197:6, 197:8, 197:11, 197:14, 198:14, 
199:19, 212:6, 226:7
CORRECTLY [1] - 196:2
CORRESPOND [2] - 111:11, 167:24
CORRESPONDING [1] - 92:12
CORROBORATION [1] - 94:24
COUDRIET [2] - 68:24, 226:15
COUDRIET'S [1] - 120:6
COUNSEL [1] - 219:21
COUNSEL [4] - 71:19, 179:12, 197:21, 
219:25
COUNSEL'S [1] - 221:17
COUNT [11] - 102:22, 105:22, 187:22, 
201:6, 208:23, 208:25, 209:2, 209:6, 
210:13, 211:1, 211:21
COUNT [9] - 76:9, 76:10, 133:16, 
187:19, 201:6, 201:25, 209:8, 212:5, 
215:21
COUNTER [1] - 76:14
COUNTS [2] - 190:11, 208:3
COUNTS [7] - 195:2, 202:1, 202:2, 
202:9, 202:13, 206:19, 208:1
COUPLE [5] - 140:3, 155:23, 174:14, 
185:7, 190:7
COURSE [4] - 72:2, 77:13, 123:23, 
127:11
COURT [13] - 108:13, 202:15, 202:16, 
202:20, 204:14, 206:10, 207:17, 
207:19, 212:21, 215:20, 220:1, 
220:16, 225:7
COURT [8] - 70:17, 77:20, 114:16, 
175:6, 179:14, 183:16, 202:22, 207:9
COURT [137] - 1:4, 1:7, 1:10, 68:1, 
68:24, 68:25, 70:1, 70:2, 70:5, 71:15, 
75:4, 75:6, 89:19, 91:3, 91:8, 91:10, 
91:15, 91:20, 92:3, 93:4, 93:7, 93:9, 
93:12, 93:14, 94:25, 95:2, 95:5, 97:7, 
98:5, 98:8, 99:5, 104:25, 105:2, 
107:22, 107:24, 108:3, 108:7, 108:11, 
108:15, 110:17, 110:21, 111:2, 
111:16, 111:25, 112:7, 112:16, 
112:19, 112:22, 113:1, 114:10, 
116:15, 120:3, 120:16, 120:19, 
120:22, 120:24, 123:2, 123:6, 123:14, 
123:18, 124:5, 124:9, 124:18, 126:2, 
126:8, 126:17, 126:21, 127:5, 127:9, 
128:5, 129:12, 129:15, 134:2, 134:10, 
134:13, 134:16, 140:18, 140:21, 
140:25, 142:3, 142:7, 144:9, 145:1, 
150:5, 157:25, 161:13, 162:17, 
162:20, 162:23, 163:5, 163:9, 163:15, 
163:17, 168:13, 172:11, 172:14, 
189:18, 189:24, 190:1, 195:7, 200:13, 
200:15, 200:18, 200:21, 200:25, 
201:4, 202:10, 204:24, 207:8, 210:19, 
210:23, 216:20, 217:7, 217:13, 
218:13, 218:22, 219:5, 219:8, 219:11, 
219:20, 220:11, 220:22, 221:18, 
222:7, 222:17, 222:24, 223:3, 223:5, 
223:9, 223:14, 223:24, 224:6, 224:9, 
224:19, 225:10, 226:3, 226:15
COURT'S [1] - 221:17
COURTHOUSE [1] - 220:3
COURTROOM [4] - 71:14, 120:23, 
189:25, 200:24
COURTROOM [2] - 70:4, 219:19
COVER [1] - 178:8
COVERED [2] - 142:6, 171:2
COVID [2] - 87:21, 217:18
CPN [1] - 84:24
CREATED [4] - 100:10, 100:11, 165:10, 
196:5
CREATING [2] - 128:8, 150:10
CREATIONS [1] - 146:22
CREDENTIALS [1] - 184:20
CREDIBILITY [1] - 202:24
CREDIT [2] - 155:7, 155:10
CRIME [2] - 206:7, 209:23
CROSS [5] - 71:9, 112:13, 120:4, 
120:13, 120:15
CROSS-EXAMINATION [3] - 112:13, 
120:4, 120:13
CRR [2] - 68:24, 226:15
CUELLAR [1] - 206:8
CUELLAR [1] - 206:8
CURIOUS [1] - 173:11
CUSTODY [6] - 151:5, 175:2, 182:11, 
232
182:12, 182:23, 183:14
CUSTOMS [1] - 95:25
D
DAILY [2] - 213:25, 214:2
DARRELL [157] - 72:7, 72:23, 74:4, 
74:8, 74:18, 75:18, 76:21, 77:9, 78:1, 
80:25, 81:1, 81:5, 81:17, 82:21, 83:24, 
89:9, 89:25, 90:20, 92:9, 92:13, 92:17, 
93:19, 94:6, 94:17, 95:9, 96:19, 96:20, 
97:10, 99:9, 100:16, 100:20, 101:24, 
102:14, 104:8, 104:17, 105:9, 105:16, 
106:9, 107:4, 107:13, 108:19, 110:6, 
114:1, 117:10, 118:6, 118:25, 119:8, 
121:13, 121:16, 122:7, 122:15, 
124:24, 127:13, 127:16, 127:20, 
127:23, 128:13, 128:24, 129:5, 
129:14, 130:19, 131:17, 132:1, 
132:12, 132:19, 133:3, 134:25, 135:5, 
135:9, 135:25, 136:2, 136:12, 136:21, 
136:23, 137:1, 137:2, 137:4, 137:12, 
137:14, 137:15, 137:19, 138:9, 
138:22, 139:5, 139:9, 139:22, 141:8, 
141:20, 142:15, 143:2, 143:11, 
143:15, 143:24, 144:13, 145:4, 145:7, 
145:21, 146:3, 147:6, 147:10, 147:21, 
148:18, 149:2, 149:14, 150:14, 153:2, 
154:7, 156:22, 157:5, 157:17, 158:4, 
158:17, 158:22, 158:25, 159:3, 159:8, 
159:16, 160:9, 160:13, 160:23, 161:1, 
161:4, 161:19, 163:22, 164:3, 164:5, 
164:12, 165:13, 165:23, 166:2, 166:8, 
166:22, 167:1, 167:16, 167:25, 168:9, 
173:11, 173:16, 186:19, 188:2, 189:8, 
189:9, 190:23, 192:12, 196:6, 196:19, 
200:9, 201:13, 206:25, 207:4, 216:10
DATE [11] - 84:18, 99:13, 101:1, 103:17, 
152:15, 152:20, 153:5, 153:12, 199:5, 
199:6, 211:24
DATED [1] - 192:2
DAVID [1] - 68:20
DAYS [5] - 136:21, 139:2, 142:21, 
155:23
DAYS [1] - 1:5
DEALS [1] - 209:18
DEANA [1] - 217:16
DEATH [1] - 185:5
DEBIT [1] - 155:13
DEBITS [1] - 191:22
DECEMBER [2] - 130:25, 131:3
DECIDED [4] - 173:23, 209:16, 217:3, 
223:17
DECIDES [1] - 225:1
DECISION [1] - 221:8
DECLINED [1] - 221:6
DEDUCTIONS [1] - 88:13
DEFEND [1] - 212:5
DEFENDANT [2] - 68:17, 68:20
DEFENDANT [13] - 111:23, 140:24, 
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202:18, 202:21, 203:2, 205:6, 205:13, 
205:16, 209:25, 211:17, 211:18, 
212:4, 216:24
DEFENDANT'S [1] - 210:9
DEFENDANT'S [4] - 107:7, 122:4, 
122:22, 195:13
DEFENDANTS [1] - 68:8
DEFENDANTS [3] - 132:24, 218:24, 
224:11
DEFENDANTS' [1] - 223:13
DEFENSE [1] - 146:3
DEFENSE [11] - 110:24, 140:21, 179:5, 
220:8, 221:17, 223:24, 224:1, 224:2, 
224:15, 224:21, 225:1
DEFINED [1] - 180:1
DEFINITELY [1] - 91:23
DELIVERED [1] - 178:18
DELIVERY [1] - 129:4
DENIED [1] - 217:2
DEPOSIT [21] - 102:20, 103:1, 103:7, 
105:15, 105:16, 105:22, 106:16, 
107:4, 191:22, 191:23, 192:1, 192:9, 
200:1, 200:3, 200:6, 200:10, 201:11, 
201:17, 207:23, 209:4, 211:24
DEPOSITED [3] - 105:19, 133:19, 
213:24
DEPOSITING [2] - 106:10, 209:3
DEPOSITS [6] - 190:10, 203:11, 203:13, 
203:15, 203:21
DEPTH [1] - 133:2
DEPUTY [1] - 219:19
DESCRIBING [1] - 100:24
DESIGNED [3] - 212:25, 213:1, 215:17
DESKTOP [4] - 73:18, 73:19, 175:12, 
197:9
DESPITE [1] - 133:22
DETAILS [1] - 222:25
DETERMINE [4] - 138:11, 151:25, 
202:20, 205:5
DETERMINING [1] - 208:2
DEVICE [5] - 102:9, 169:25, 177:13, 
177:14, 197:10
DEVICES [22] - 73:10, 73:16, 73:20, 
168:23, 169:14, 170:8, 173:7, 173:19, 
174:4, 174:5, 174:8, 175:5, 175:7, 
175:11, 177:3, 177:7, 177:10, 177:16, 
177:18, 178:4, 187:1, 197:7
DIAMOND [2] - 98:1, 98:15
DIFFERENCE [2] - 154:13, 211:19
DIFFERENT [14] - 72:4, 76:15, 79:3, 
79:4, 79:6, 79:18, 81:18, 82:5, 83:4, 
143:10, 148:6, 161:9, 182:2, 211:15
DIGITAL [9] - 168:19, 177:3, 177:7, 
177:10, 177:12, 177:13, 177:14, 
177:15, 178:4
DIRECT [1] - 148:25
DIRECT [10] - 82:20, 83:23, 86:9, 87:1, 
99:20, 100:18, 100:24, 102:20, 
102:24, 132:2
DIRECTED [2] - 84:4, 220:17
DIRECTION [1] - 177:17
DIRECTLY [3] - 111:5, 150:13, 196:6
DISAGREE [1] - 174:20
DISBURSED [1] - 185:25
DISBURSEMENT [1] - 206:20
DISCLOSED [1] - 132:24
DISCOVERED [1] - 131:23
DISCUSS [7] - 71:19, 102:15, 102:17, 
103:1, 106:25, 194:2, 222:1
DISCUSSED [4] - 77:20, 113:18, 
127:12, 212:3
DISCUSSING [4] - 87:1, 90:2, 90:6, 
200:1
DISCUSSION [13] - 84:12, 106:6, 106:9, 
106:16, 108:25, 179:12, 197:21, 
201:22, 218:17, 220:8, 220:9, 223:8, 
223:12
DISCUSSIONS [2] - 92:17, 108:22
DISGUISE [2] - 205:17, 206:3
DISMISSAL [1] - 211:16
DISPLAYED [2] - 76:13, 195:21
DISPUTE [1] - 122:19
DISRESPECTFUL [1] - 166:21
DISTRICT [6] - 68:1, 68:1, 68:10, 68:25, 
226:3, 226:4
DIVISION [1] - 68:2
DIXON [7] - 219:25, 220:9, 220:15, 
220:20, 220:21, 221:7, 222:2
DOC [1] - 198:2
DOCKET [2] - 1:6, 68:5
DOCS [1] - 198:17
DOCUMENT [1] - 188:12
DOCUMENT [48] - 83:20, 89:4, 90:16, 
91:8, 91:24, 94:2, 94:24, 95:8, 98:21, 
104:6, 111:10, 123:16, 124:11, 
124:12, 124:17, 124:22, 126:23, 
126:24, 127:1, 127:2, 129:4, 142:12, 
142:14, 145:11, 145:18, 146:2, 158:5, 
158:7, 160:22, 162:25, 163:10, 
170:18, 172:2, 176:14, 178:2, 178:6, 
178:7, 178:19, 178:21, 179:9, 185:19, 
185:24, 186:10, 187:20, 188:14, 
192:7, 194:16, 194:19
DOCUMENT [1] - 1:10
DOCUMENT'S [1] - 198:19
DOCUMENTATION [2] - 127:17, 149:24
DOCUMENTS [50] - 77:2, 91:22, 92:12, 
92:23, 94:4, 94:5, 94:12, 94:13, 94:19, 
96:6, 96:15, 104:2, 107:10, 110:2, 
111:11, 113:22, 115:23, 115:25, 
117:12, 128:8, 130:22, 134:22, 139:6, 
142:18, 143:6, 143:7, 143:10, 144:15, 
144:19, 144:20, 145:9, 145:22, 
145:25, 147:17, 148:3, 148:18, 
149:10, 150:10, 150:15, 158:10, 
164:18, 169:20, 176:10, 176:24, 
177:12, 194:1, 194:2, 197:10, 198:5
DOLLARS [1] - 164:15
DONE [10] - 86:7, 120:4, 120:13, 
121:21, 147:7, 182:20, 194:1, 207:11, 
233
210:15, 222:10
DOOR [5] - 71:8, 71:10, 126:1, 181:17, 
182:5
DOSE [1] - 217:21
DOUBT [12] - 202:22, 203:3, 205:8, 
205:13, 205:15, 206:14, 208:3, 208:9, 
209:10, 212:21, 213:21, 217:2
DOWN [22] - 83:12, 88:7, 96:2, 126:9, 
126:22, 148:11, 149:17, 152:9, 
158:16, 158:19, 159:14, 166:4, 166:5, 
167:5, 167:19, 187:14, 194:2, 198:25, 
200:18, 215:25, 221:12, 226:7
DOWNLOADED [1] - 119:7
DOWNSTAIRS [1] - 73:19
DRIVE [1] - 134:6
DRIVING [6] - 98:2, 98:3, 98:10, 117:12, 
144:3, 144:16
DUDE [1] - 84:9
DUDE [2] - 164:9, 166:14
DURATION [2] - 83:6, 83:16
DURING [17] - 72:2, 78:5, 84:2, 84:3, 
122:10, 123:13, 127:19, 128:13, 
134:4, 143:9, 168:8, 174:13, 183:3, 
185:2, 203:21, 208:24, 220:10
DURRETT [1] - 68:18
E
E-MAIL [60] - 72:21, 72:23, 73:4, 85:3, 
85:6, 85:9, 89:7, 89:8, 89:10, 89:21, 
89:23, 94:17, 96:18, 97:9, 98:23, 99:9, 
99:13, 100:2, 100:19, 100:21, 101:2, 
111:5, 113:6, 113:25, 114:18, 114:23, 
115:1, 115:6, 115:11, 118:4, 118:20, 
121:5, 121:13, 123:10, 124:3, 135:10, 
135:25, 139:23, 141:7, 141:19, 
142:18, 142:22, 143:11, 143:14, 
143:16, 143:17, 143:23, 144:2, 
144:12, 145:3, 169:3, 173:8, 186:5, 
186:9, 187:23, 216:16
E-MAIL'S [1] - 73:1
E-MAILED [1] - 149:2
E-MAILS [43] - 73:8, 85:8, 92:12, 94:16, 
94:19, 96:12, 100:19, 100:20, 100:24, 
101:4, 101:7, 101:8, 102:1, 102:12, 
111:5, 111:10, 114:14, 121:18, 
125:11, 130:22, 135:4, 140:3, 140:8, 
141:11, 147:16, 148:17, 169:5, 169:8, 
169:11, 186:4, 186:6, 186:15, 189:13, 
197:1, 199:16, 199:21, 199:24, 202:3, 
202:4, 202:7, 204:16, 216:9
EARLY [4] - 151:2, 156:13, 196:12, 
222:20
EASTERN [1] - 154:25
EDUCATED [1] - 220:9
EDUCATION [1] - 96:3
EFFECT [13] - 123:8, 124:14, 126:5, 
126:6, 126:14, 126:16, 126:19, 
126:22, 189:5, 189:8, 201:19, 206:3
EFFICIENT [1] - 221:22
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EFFORT [2] - 190:14, 221:16
EFFORTS [2] - 73:20, 127:19
EFIN [4] - 85:15, 85:17, 85:23, 86:4
EIDL [4] - 87:17, 87:19, 87:24, 88:2
EIN [5] - 85:15, 85:19, 85:22, 85:23, 
86:4
EITHER [5] - 109:1, 216:23, 220:22, 
221:1, 221:2
ELECTRONIC [1] - 169:24
ELEMENT [5] - 205:7, 205:12, 206:2, 
211:4, 211:7
ELEMENTS [11] - 203:7, 204:19, 
204:20, 205:2, 206:14, 208:5, 208:7, 
208:20, 210:5, 211:11, 212:19
ELEVENTH [4] - 202:16, 204:22, 
206:11, 209:14
ELICIT [3] - 127:3, 220:8, 221:7
ELITE [2] - 80:14, 109:6
ELMO [1] - 75:7
EMERGENCY [1] - 87:20
EMPHASIZE [1] - 214:17
EMPLOYEE [2] - 86:18, 158:8
EMPLOYEES [8] - 156:17, 158:10, 
158:12, 158:23, 159:25, 198:11, 
198:23, 199:6
EMPLOYER [2] - 85:18, 85:20
EMPLOYMENT [1] - 165:2
ENCORE [2] - 77:15, 77:24
ENCOURAGE [1] - 221:22
END [7] - 88:8, 167:11, 167:14, 167:15, 
174:14, 224:24
ENDED [7] - 132:8, 151:7, 153:14, 
153:19, 153:24, 160:2, 185:24
ENERGY [1] - 166:24
ENGAGED [1] - 82:10
ENJOY [1] - 167:1
ENTER [2] - 198:7, 223:17
ENTERED [3] - 71:14, 120:23, 189:25
ENTITIES [1] - 81:3
ENTITLED [2] - 151:11, 151:14
ENTRIES [1] - 83:20
ENTRY [1] - 1:6
ENTRY [1] - 194:16
ERROR [3] - 209:7, 210:8, 212:8
ERRORS [1] - 156:8
ESPECIALLY [2] - 126:16, 208:7
ESQ [6] - 68:14, 68:15, 68:15, 68:18, 
68:18, 68:20
ESSENTIAL [4] - 210:5, 211:3, 211:6, 
211:11
ESSENTIALLY [1] - 214:23
ESTABLISH [5] - 91:24, 91:25, 94:23, 
111:15, 140:25
ESTABLISHED [7] - 85:5, 123:23, 
130:13, 162:19, 163:6, 201:16, 213:17
ESTABLISHMENT [1] - 156:7
EVENING [4] - 155:24, 219:21, 223:5, 
225:11
EVENT [1] - 225:8
EVENTUALLY [3] - 102:2, 132:23, 
225:8
EVIDENCE [54] - 82:10, 82:13, 110:23, 
111:19, 116:9, 126:20, 128:12, 135:3, 
135:9, 135:15, 135:24, 149:5, 168:20, 
173:4, 175:17, 187:5, 189:13, 191:1, 
191:19, 201:6, 201:9, 201:11, 201:21, 
202:8, 202:14, 202:19, 202:23, 203:1, 
203:4, 203:13, 203:18, 203:24, 204:4, 
204:15, 206:5, 207:20, 207:25, 208:2, 
209:9, 210:14, 211:18, 212:16, 
212:17, 212:23, 213:17, 213:20, 
215:2, 215:4, 215:10, 215:13, 216:11, 
216:17, 216:24, 224:5
EXACT [2] - 76:10, 211:22
EXACTLY [4] - 93:2, 154:13, 155:4, 
215:9
EXAMINATION [3] - 112:13, 120:4, 
120:13
EXAMINATION [5] - 69:4, 69:5, 134:17, 
172:17, 195:10
EXAMINATION.......................134 [1] - 
69:4
EXAMPLE [5] - 72:23, 83:13, 101:1, 
155:5, 192:13
EXCEPT [1] - 212:6
EXCEPTION [4] - 91:19, 112:2, 112:6, 
161:12
EXCERPTS [1] - 157:17
EXCHANGE [1] - 164:15
EXCHANGED [8] - 104:9, 104:13, 
104:16, 107:16, 132:5, 132:11, 
132:12, 215:11
EXCHANGING [1] - 106:15
EXCLUSIVE [7] - 102:21, 103:6, 104:10, 
105:7, 105:11, 133:20, 200:2
EXCUSE [2] - 177:18, 209:13
EXECUTED [1] - 73:24
EXECUTION [2] - 74:23, 78:2
EXECUTIVE [2] - 80:14, 109:6
EXHIBIT [10] - 86:7, 87:9, 118:2, 138:3, 
141:13, 142:8, 160:18, 160:25, 179:6, 
187:17
EXHIBIT [46] - 75:25, 82:17, 84:5, 85:11, 
87:7, 87:11, 88:7, 88:24, 90:10, 90:25, 
107:8, 109:3, 117:22, 117:25, 121:4, 
122:4, 122:23, 123:23, 124:3, 141:7, 
141:23, 144:5, 144:12, 144:23, 146:3, 
148:9, 152:4, 152:24, 156:20, 159:19, 
160:15, 160:20, 161:3, 161:7, 161:18, 
162:16, 163:19, 185:17, 187:14, 
188:12, 191:7, 191:18, 194:7, 194:13, 
195:9, 195:13
EXHIBITS [10] - 74:11, 98:18, 103:21, 
104:12, 109:24, 111:8, 113:15, 116:8, 
157:9, 157:21
EXHIBITS [7] - 111:9, 113:21, 115:6, 
115:10, 116:9, 157:15, 157:21
EXITED [1] - 200:24
EXOTIC [1] - 95:25
234
EXPAND [1] - 91:20
EXPECTED [1] - 183:21
EXPENSE [1] - 213:11
EXPENSIVE [1] - 82:15
EXPLAIN [1] - 155:4
EXPLAINED [1] - 180:1
EXTENSIVELY [1] - 100:16
EXTENT [1] - 93:14
EXTRA [2] - 206:1, 206:9
EXTRACTION [4] - 157:18, 161:4, 
163:12
F
F.3D [2] - 205:20, 206:12
F15A [3] - 74:11, 74:12, 75:1
F15AA [1] - 79:2
F15B [1] - 75:21
F15CC [1] - 79:5
F15E [1] - 75:25
F15F [1] - 76:7
F15H [1] - 79:18
F15K [1] - 76:13
F15L [1] - 76:18
F15LL [1] - 79:8
F15M [1] - 76:23
F15N [1] - 77:5
F15PP [3] - 74:11, 74:12, 75:2
F15S [2] - 77:11, 77:22
F15T [2] - 77:17, 77:19
F15U [1] - 78:21
F15X [1] - 78:23
F21 [12] - 90:10, 90:25, 94:1, 97:15, 
98:3, 98:13, 99:15, 146:3, 194:7, 
194:11, 194:13, 195:13
F22A [8] - 109:24, 110:9, 111:8, 113:3, 
114:13, 116:17, 139:17, 139:21
F336 [2] - 115:13, 115:15
F337 [5] - 113:15, 113:17, 114:6, 
140:13, 141:7
F337A [1] - 115:7
F338 [7] - 113:15, 115:18, 115:20, 
116:8, 117:1, 117:22, 143:19
F338B [1] - 143:19
F355 [2] - 115:19, 115:21
F402 [3] - 88:24, 89:15, 89:21
F405 [3] - 96:13, 97:3, 97:9
F406 [2] - 96:13, 98:10
F40A [1] - 134:5
F45 [5] - 103:21, 104:6, 104:12, 104:19, 
105:5
F450 [1] - 98:18
F451 [2] - 98:19, 99:18
F46 [5] - 103:22, 103:24, 104:12, 
104:20, 105:14
F47 [2] - 107:18, 107:19
F49 [2] - 107:19, 107:20
F50 [2] - 107:19, 107:20
F51 [3] - 122:4, 122:23, 123:23
FACES [2] - 133:13, 133:16
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FACILITATE [1] - 221:13
FACING [1] - 133:23
FACT [6] - 138:12, 143:14, 181:9, 182:9, 
214:22, 217:1
FACTORS [1] - 214:15
FACTS [2] - 211:14, 211:19
FAIR [8] - 78:5, 79:2, 83:7, 110:11, 
116:5, 173:15, 183:20, 224:25
FAIRLY [1] - 210:2
FAKE [1] - 100:12
FALL [2] - 112:5, 168:6
FAMILIAR [6] - 87:4, 94:1, 102:20, 
118:22, 198:5, 198:7
FAR [11] - 71:10, 71:11, 163:9, 175:5, 
176:14, 212:16, 215:19, 216:7, 
218:24, 222:5, 224:23
FATAL [1] - 209:18
FAULTY [1] - 210:6
FAVOR [1] - 202:25
FAVORABLE [2] - 202:23, 216:25
FBI [2] - 132:22, 184:16
FEBRUARY [1] - 68:11
FEBRUARY [4] - 131:7, 131:8, 225:13, 
226:9
FED [2] - 166:10, 166:22
FED.APPX [2] - 202:17, 204:23
FEDERAL [2] - 86:10, 205:19
FELT [1] - 175:13
FEMALE [1] - 184:25
FEW [4] - 136:20, 142:21, 181:19, 185:2
FIFTH [1] - 209:22
FILED [3] - 1:3, 1:8, 1:10
FILED [1] - 207:17
FINAL [7] - 155:12, 155:15, 155:16, 
155:20, 155:21, 155:22, 156:5
FINANCE [2] - 84:21, 84:22
FINANCIAL [10] - 169:21, 169:25, 
170:18, 176:24, 205:7, 208:18, 211:6, 
211:8, 211:12, 211:24
FINE [6] - 72:13, 83:14, 92:15, 98:19, 
108:2, 164:13
FINISH [1] - 128:3
FIR [1] - 164:9
FIREARM [1] - 75:11
FIRST [28] - 76:25, 95:15, 96:18, 97:9, 
104:5, 130:4, 131:21, 132:2, 133:1, 
133:5, 146:6, 164:25, 167:8, 172:16, 
174:10, 174:13, 174:21, 179:14, 
182:17, 184:10, 184:11, 201:5, 205:7, 
213:8, 217:6, 217:21, 220:25, 222:2
FITS [1] - 216:18
FIVE [1] - 70:20
FIXED [1] - 148:5
FLIPPED [1] - 222:7
FLOYD [1] - 185:5
FOCUS [1] - 209:20
FOLDER [1] - 108:10
FOLLOW [4] - 178:23, 193:7, 193:11, 
193:14
FOLLOWED [2] - 70:9, 70:10
FOLLOWING [1] - 1:2
FOLLOWING [2] - 178:14, 181:5
FOLLOWS [3] - 120:21, 189:23, 225:13
FOR [2] - 1:5, 68:1
FORCE [1] - 221:19
FOREGOING [1] - 226:6
FORM [5] - 90:2, 90:4, 114:2, 158:12, 
185:23
FORM [7] - 141:23, 164:5, 190:7, 
190:11, 205:14, 207:20, 215:14
FORMAL [1] - 183:6
FORMALLY [1] - 134:6
FORMED [2] - 186:1, 207:1
FORMS [4] - 84:21, 84:22, 94:4, 164:14
FORMULA [2] - 99:22, 100:3
FORMULAS [1] - 99:24
FORTH [4] - 92:23, 143:10, 208:15, 
209:19
FORWARDED [2] - 89:10, 96:19
FOSTER [160] - 71:2, 71:6, 71:12, 72:16, 
72:19, 73:11, 79:24, 80:2, 80:5, 81:2, 
82:10, 82:13, 82:21, 83:23, 86:10, 
86:13, 86:15, 87:2, 88:12, 90:19, 92:2, 
92:9, 92:13, 92:16, 93:19, 95:9, 99:21, 
99:22, 100:19, 101:1, 102:14, 102:18, 
104:9, 104:16, 105:9, 105:17, 106:2, 
106:7, 106:17, 106:25, 107:13, 
108:20, 109:1, 110:25, 111:14, 
113:25, 114:13, 114:14, 118:17, 
121:12, 123:10, 124:2, 125:7, 125:10, 
127:12, 127:15, 127:20, 127:22, 
128:14, 128:15, 128:18, 128:21, 
129:14, 130:16, 130:25, 131:3, 131:5, 
132:12, 132:19, 133:6, 133:7, 133:11, 
133:23, 136:21, 137:6, 137:9, 137:17, 
137:19, 138:1, 138:9, 138:12, 138:15, 
138:20, 138:22, 138:23, 139:5, 139:8, 
139:11, 139:12, 139:22, 140:7, 
141:11, 143:2, 143:15, 143:17, 145:7, 
145:21, 145:22, 146:3, 147:6, 147:9, 
147:20, 148:3, 148:4, 148:12, 148:24, 
149:9, 149:15, 149:24, 150:3, 150:13, 
150:23, 151:18, 151:21, 152:12, 
153:2, 153:10, 154:2, 154:6, 157:18, 
158:5, 158:17, 158:25, 159:3, 159:9, 
159:17, 160:7, 160:9, 161:10, 162:7, 
162:19, 163:4, 164:6, 164:8, 165:7, 
165:16, 165:18, 166:13, 166:25, 
167:3, 167:17, 167:25, 168:9, 196:6, 
196:18, 198:22, 200:6, 200:9, 201:3, 
201:7, 201:12, 201:14, 202:6, 215:19, 
216:12, 219:6
FOSTER [2] - 68:7, 68:17
FOSTER'S [35] - 70:14, 73:1, 85:6, 85:9, 
102:25, 105:20, 111:5, 121:24, 125:6, 
125:23, 127:21, 128:15, 131:24, 
133:10, 133:20, 136:4, 136:9, 136:13, 
136:24, 137:2, 137:14, 138:15, 149:5, 
149:18, 152:1, 164:24, 165:10, 167:8, 
235
181:2, 181:23, 194:7, 194:13, 215:20, 
215:22, 215:25
FOUNDATION [5] - 93:15, 94:23, 126:5, 
163:3, 163:5
FOUNDERS [1] - 194:23
FOUR [4] - 70:20, 115:10, 117:21, 
205:16
FRAME [6] - 84:2, 84:3, 101:25, 150:9, 
154:5, 185:13
FRAUD [9] - 81:6, 83:25, 84:4, 135:22, 
138:13, 204:12, 205:11, 208:25, 
210:13
FRAUDULENT [1] - 207:2
FRAUDULENTLY [1] - 206:24
FRIDAY [2] - 154:9, 156:8
FRIEND [1] - 160:7
FROM [1] - 1:9
FRONT [12] - 74:10, 76:1, 88:25, 
142:13, 143:21, 157:10, 160:16, 
175:21, 178:8, 179:6, 194:6, 197:13
FUCK [2] - 166:22, 167:10
FUCK [1] - 167:1
FULL [2] - 133:2, 167:4
FULL [1] - 1:9
FUNDED [1] - 215:7
FUNDS [17] - 106:17, 189:1, 189:5, 
190:15, 191:3, 201:20, 203:25, 204:2, 
204:11, 206:16, 206:20, 208:8, 213:2, 
214:16, 215:12, 215:14
FUTURE [1] - 225:8
G
GAINES [58] - 72:11, 72:12, 146:12, 
170:5, 170:9, 170:15, 170:21, 170:22, 
171:17, 172:5, 174:1, 185:23, 185:25, 
186:8, 186:9, 186:13, 186:16, 186:20, 
187:10, 187:25, 188:5, 188:8, 188:16, 
188:19, 188:21, 189:4, 189:12, 
189:15, 190:18, 190:21, 191:17, 
192:8, 192:15, 194:25, 195:1, 203:23, 
203:25, 206:18, 206:21, 206:24, 
207:1, 207:21, 208:15, 213:5, 213:14, 
213:17, 213:22, 214:11, 215:3, 215:6, 
217:15, 217:24, 218:9, 218:13, 
218:15, 218:19, 222:15, 222:21
GAINES'S [2] - 214:5, 214:10
GARAGE [2] - 75:22, 76:1
GATHER [1] - 131:15
GATHERING [1] - 130:22
GEARS [1] - 168:16
GENA [83] - 70:14, 71:2, 71:5, 71:11, 
72:18, 73:10, 80:4, 89:8, 89:11, 89:24, 
90:19, 92:1, 92:9, 92:12, 92:16, 93:19, 
95:9, 99:22, 102:14, 102:17, 103:6, 
104:9, 104:16, 105:8, 105:16, 105:19, 
106:9, 106:12, 107:5, 107:12, 108:20, 
110:5, 127:12, 127:15, 127:20, 
128:13, 128:14, 128:17, 128:21, 
129:14, 130:25, 131:23, 132:1, 133:6, 
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133:10, 133:19, 137:17, 137:19, 
138:1, 138:4, 138:9, 138:12, 138:15, 
138:19, 138:22, 139:8, 139:11, 
139:22, 140:7, 141:11, 143:2, 143:15, 
143:16, 143:23, 145:7, 145:21, 
145:22, 146:3, 147:6, 147:9, 147:20, 
148:4, 149:5, 149:18, 150:13, 154:6, 
158:25, 168:9, 196:6, 196:18, 200:8, 
201:12
GENA'S [1] - 103:3
GENERAL [3] - 180:21, 202:13, 208:5
GENERALLY [4] - 124:15, 124:16, 
124:21, 191:13
GENERATED [1] - 161:3
GENTLEMEN [3] - 71:16, 120:8, 200:22
GEORGE [1] - 185:5
GEORGETOWN [1] - 152:14
GEORGIA [4] - 68:1, 68:25, 70:1, 226:4
GIVEN [8] - 70:20, 71:4, 99:22, 110:23, 
137:8, 154:21, 156:2, 211:19
GLOBAL [1] - 98:1
GODADDY [4] - 114:4, 116:1, 116:3, 
141:20
GOLD [4] - 75:11, 82:1, 82:2, 82:15
GOOGLE [6] - 97:1, 98:24, 158:17, 
198:2, 198:5, 198:17
GOVERNMENT [26] - 110:16, 113:18, 
121:5, 181:22, 191:9, 192:24, 199:14, 
201:9, 201:15, 201:18, 202:2, 202:4, 
202:5, 202:23, 203:18, 204:5, 205:5, 
206:2, 206:13, 207:4, 208:25, 209:10, 
216:25, 217:17, 219:3, 224:9
GOVERNMENT [19] - 87:11, 117:24, 
141:22, 144:5, 144:12, 144:23, 148:8, 
152:3, 152:23, 156:19, 157:9, 159:19, 
160:15, 160:20, 161:3, 161:6, 162:15, 
163:18, 195:9
GOVERNMENT [1] - 68:14
GOVERNMENT'S [3] - 202:25, 224:5, 
224:10
GOVERNMENT'S [11] - 85:11, 88:6, 
109:3, 121:3, 124:3, 157:21, 185:17, 
187:14, 188:12, 191:7, 191:18
GRAB [1] - 139:20
GRAND [6] - 175:17, 175:20, 180:7, 
193:5, 209:24, 210:11
GRANDVIEW [1] - 74:6
GREAT [4] - 70:5, 113:13, 198:23, 
214:22
GROUP [18] - 76:25, 90:7, 95:15, 95:23, 
117:10, 130:4, 135:1, 135:11, 141:20, 
156:14, 157:2, 158:9, 158:10, 164:18, 
171:6, 171:9, 171:15, 207:22
GUARANTEE [1] - 111:13
GUARANTEES [2] - 110:25, 112:4
GUESS [12] - 93:4, 161:13, 181:1, 
190:14, 191:10, 193:4, 196:23, 
217:23, 219:14, 220:24, 222:19
GUILT [1] - 217:1
GUILTY [7] - 202:21, 203:2, 208:3, 
212:18, 223:13, 224:11, 225:7
H
HACKED [3] - 135:9, 135:15, 135:25
HAIR [1] - 148:25
HALF [2] - 112:18, 189:19
HAND [4] - 81:1, 91:8, 113:17, 221:19
HANDFUL [1] - 108:18
HAPPY [2] - 221:3, 221:9
HARD [1] - 77:23
HAS [1] - 1:8
HATE [1] - 222:9
HAWKINS [1] - 202:16
HEAD [1] - 81:9
HEADNOTE [1] - 205:2
HEAR [4] - 91:4, 140:21, 223:24, 224:15
HEARD [3] - 82:2, 186:4, 219:23
HEARING [1] - 98:6
HEARSAY [18] - 70:25, 71:4, 91:1, 91:5, 
91:18, 91:22, 92:20, 93:2, 107:20, 
112:5, 122:25, 123:4, 124:4, 124:11, 
126:1, 127:6, 129:8, 161:11
HEAVY [1] - 222:8
HELD [1] - 209:23
HELD [1] - 70:1
HELP [1] - 197:24
HELPED [1] - 158:25
HELPFUL [1] - 176:1
HEREBY [1] - 226:6
HERSELF [1] - 138:1
HI [1] - 207:11
HIDE [4] - 189:6, 190:15, 191:3, 208:19
HIGHLIGHT [1] - 152:10
HIMSELF [3] - 137:15, 215:21, 216:12
HIT [1] - 156:24
HITS [2] - 155:9, 155:20
HOLD [1] - 92:5
HOLDINGS [1] - 95:24
HOLLAND [1] - 141:15
HOLLAND [16] - 82:17, 84:5, 117:24, 
158:20, 159:14, 165:5, 167:20, 
185:16, 187:13, 188:11, 191:6, 
191:21, 192:21, 197:18, 197:22, 
198:10
HOLSTER [3] - 75:14, 75:16, 75:17
HOME [4] - 73:10, 73:13, 128:25, 215:4
HOMES [1] - 73:25
HONOR [103] - 71:24, 75:1, 89:15, 
90:24, 91:6, 91:14, 91:17, 91:21, 
92:20, 92:24, 93:6, 93:17, 94:22, 95:1, 
95:3, 96:23, 97:3, 99:1, 104:19, 
107:18, 107:20, 107:23, 107:25, 
108:6, 110:14, 110:20, 110:22, 111:4, 
112:2, 112:20, 112:25, 114:6, 120:12, 
120:15, 121:1, 122:22, 122:24, 123:5, 
123:7, 124:4, 125:24, 126:4, 126:12, 
126:18, 128:3, 129:7, 129:13, 134:1, 
134:4, 134:14, 139:15, 140:13, 
141:22, 142:5, 144:4, 144:10, 144:22, 
236
157:20, 161:6, 161:8, 162:15, 162:18, 
163:11, 168:12, 172:10, 172:13, 
172:15, 179:4, 190:3, 200:12, 200:16, 
200:17, 200:20, 201:2, 202:1, 203:4, 
205:21, 206:13, 208:20, 210:21, 
210:25, 212:17, 214:17, 215:8, 
215:19, 217:5, 217:11, 219:4, 219:7, 
219:22, 220:13, 221:10, 221:14, 
221:16, 222:3, 222:14, 223:4, 223:11, 
223:18, 223:21, 224:4, 225:5, 225:9
HONORABLE [1] - 68:10
HOPE [1] - 223:5
HOPEFULLY [1] - 217:21
HOPING [1] - 218:4
HOTEL [2] - 77:15
HOUR [6] - 112:18, 120:5, 154:13, 
189:19, 218:20
HOURS [2] - 155:22, 199:12
HOUSE [12] - 72:15, 72:18, 76:21, 
79:19, 128:22, 165:14, 173:13, 
173:19, 181:12, 181:14, 185:8, 215:6
HOWEVER [1] - 1:8
HUGE [1] - 219:18
HUNDREDS [2] - 135:4, 135:7
HUNTER [2] - 78:17, 79:10
HUSTLED [1] - 165:23
I
ICLOUD [18] - 102:3, 113:25, 117:9, 
136:7, 139:5, 140:8, 141:7, 142:15, 
142:22, 143:7, 143:11, 143:14, 
143:24, 144:19, 147:17, 148:19, 
149:3, 149:9
ID [2] - 161:25, 166:9
IDEA [3] - 182:15, 201:8, 220:5
IDENTICAL [4] - 148:3, 149:10, 149:24, 
150:10
IDENTIFICATION [5] - 85:18, 85:20, 
85:22, 103:19, 164:1
IDENTIFIES [1] - 211:22
IDENTIFY [1] - 95:21
IDENTIFYING [1] - 216:14
ILL [1] - 217:18
ILLEGAL [13] - 203:14, 203:16, 203:24, 
204:12, 205:14, 206:16, 206:20, 
208:8, 212:25, 213:3, 214:16, 214:20, 
215:1
IMAGE [5] - 105:8, 108:19, 159:9, 
159:11, 187:15
IMAGES [6] - 104:12, 104:16, 107:12, 
107:16, 111:6, 159:16
IMPACT [1] - 146:22
IMPEACHMENT [2] - 70:18, 70:23
IMPLICATION [1] - 141:10
IMPORTANT [4] - 173:20, 184:4, 
193:20, 204:19
IN [3] - 1:3, 1:4, 70:1
IN-BRANCH [1] - 209:4
INARTFULLY [1] - 112:8
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INC [2] - 95:24, 148:13
INCLUDE [2] - 144:15, 158:12
INCLUDED [1] - 173:14
INCLUDES [1] - 225:3
INCLUDING [3] - 91:24, 94:4, 168:8
INCOMING [1] - 199:4
INCOMPLETE [1] - 180:8
INCONVENIENCE [1] - 221:14
INCREDIBLY [1] - 215:10
INCRIMINATE [2] - 137:6, 137:12
INCRIMINATED [1] - 138:19
INCRIMINATING [1] - 138:1
INDEPENDENTLY [1] - 151:25
INDICATE [1] - 177:19
INDICATED [2] - 100:15, 134:4
INDICATES [1] - 83:9
INDICATION [1] - 201:13
INDICIA [1] - 204:10
INDICTED [3] - 130:14, 130:16, 131:10
INDICTMENT [23] - 95:19, 95:22, 96:7, 
102:22, 130:2, 130:7, 130:20, 133:14, 
187:19, 195:2, 209:6, 209:11, 209:19, 
209:24, 210:1, 210:2, 210:4, 210:6, 
210:8, 211:1, 211:15, 211:21, 212:6
INDIVIDUAL [1] - 118:22
INDIVIDUALS [1] - 177:23
INFAMOUS [1] - 209:23
INFERENCES [1] - 202:24
INFINITE [1] - 96:3
INFLUENCE [1] - 98:2
INFO [1] - 159:12
INFORMATION [36] - 84:13, 84:17, 
94:24, 97:12, 105:6, 106:16, 108:1, 
111:7, 118:12, 118:15, 119:23, 
121:19, 121:21, 121:23, 121:24, 
123:12, 124:1, 125:1, 125:2, 125:3, 
125:21, 126:20, 131:15, 133:9, 
136:14, 136:16, 154:2, 173:15, 
173:20, 176:24, 183:2, 183:24, 184:1, 
198:8, 223:1
INITIAL [4] - 129:23, 155:14, 155:25, 
182:22
INITIATED [1] - 188:17
INSIDE [4] - 78:12, 78:13, 184:14, 215:5
INSPECT [1] - 174:8
INSTANCE [2] - 181:23, 210:6
INSTANCES [2] - 155:23, 155:24
INSTEAD [3] - 71:1, 124:11, 126:23
INSTRUCT [1] - 145:22
INSTRUCTION [4] - 205:3, 205:23, 
206:1, 210:7
INSTRUCTIONS [1] - 120:9
INSUFFICIENCY [1] - 202:13
INSUFFICIENT [1] - 202:8
INTELLIGENCE [6] - 98:3, 98:4, 98:11, 
117:13, 144:3, 144:16
INTELLIGENCE [1] - 98:12
INTEND [1] - 217:15
INTENDS [2] - 220:8, 221:6
INTERESTED [1] - 179:21
INTERESTING [1] - 193:11
INTERESTS [1] - 218:1
INTERRUPT [1] - 189:18
INTERVIEW [17] - 70:9, 73:13, 86:15, 
87:2, 102:25, 118:18, 150:23, 151:7, 
173:24, 181:4, 183:3, 184:22, 192:24, 
196:23, 197:1, 203:5, 203:9
INTERVIEWED [5] - 125:7, 130:25, 
131:3, 182:21, 183:7
INTERVIEWING [1] - 130:23
INTERVIEWS [5] - 129:24, 150:18, 
150:21, 151:18, 180:23
INTRINSIC [1] - 207:20
INTRODUCE [2] - 224:10, 225:3
INTRODUCED [4] - 191:19, 202:4, 
204:5
INVESTIGATION [23] - 72:2, 103:18, 
119:21, 122:10, 123:9, 123:13, 
123:24, 126:5, 126:7, 126:14, 126:15, 
126:16, 126:20, 127:12, 127:19, 
128:13, 130:10, 130:19, 131:13, 
135:3, 135:24, 154:16, 173:3
INVOLVED [15] - 87:3, 119:4, 125:9, 
127:23, 129:23, 135:1, 135:11, 
138:12, 172:6, 196:18, 201:14, 
204:18, 205:9, 208:13, 218:23
INVOLVEMENT [8] - 70:15, 121:25, 
125:6, 125:23, 127:21, 131:24, 
133:10, 152:1
INVOLVING [1] - 194:18
IP [5] - 72:4, 72:7, 72:15, 72:18, 73:7
IS [1] - 1:2
ISSUANCE [1] - 172:25
ISSUE [23] - 70:7, 71:11, 112:1, 123:15, 
124:13, 161:13, 210:16, 212:3, 218:6, 
218:9, 218:16, 218:23, 219:1, 219:18, 
219:22, 221:21, 223:12, 223:19, 
223:21, 224:2, 224:14, 224:19
ISSUED [3] - 77:8, 169:16, 179:16
ISSUES [6] - 71:18, 71:19, 220:6, 
220:10, 221:16, 222:7
ITEM [2] - 129:5, 223:25
ITEMS [7] - 81:18, 177:24, 179:3, 
179:22, 190:8, 195:25, 196:5
ITERATIONS [3] - 147:5, 147:23, 196:3
ITSELF [4] - 126:15, 179:23, 206:7, 
212:13
J
J.P [1] - 68:10
JACKSON [62] - 72:9, 111:23, 123:1, 
168:17, 169:23, 170:7, 170:14, 
170:25, 171:12, 171:20, 172:5, 
173:24, 174:7, 174:25, 175:2, 175:10, 
177:15, 177:19, 178:20, 178:23, 
179:16, 180:8, 181:7, 181:17, 182:4, 
182:11, 183:10, 183:21, 185:13, 
186:2, 186:10, 186:16, 186:20, 
237
186:24, 187:8, 187:25, 188:3, 188:5, 
188:8, 188:22, 189:10, 189:15, 
190:19, 190:21, 191:2, 191:17, 192:9, 
192:13, 192:18, 192:25, 193:16, 
194:18, 194:20, 203:4, 204:18, 
206:16, 207:21, 208:3, 213:4, 213:24, 
214:16, 215:14
JACKSON [2] - 68:6, 68:20
JACKSON'S [13] - 168:23, 169:14, 
173:10, 173:19, 174:5, 174:6, 180:4, 
182:3, 184:25, 185:8, 212:14, 212:22, 
215:4
JAMES [3] - 134:22, 135:4, 135:13
JANUARY [1] - 209:16
JESIKA [2] - 74:2, 96:18
JEWELRY [7] - 76:20, 78:23, 78:24, 
81:20, 81:21, 81:24, 82:15
JOHN [15] - 72:11, 72:12, 172:5, 188:5, 
189:12, 189:15, 190:21, 191:17, 
192:15, 194:25, 195:1, 203:23, 207:1, 
207:21, 217:15
JOHNSON [1] - 206:11
JOSEPH [1] - 69:3
JUDGE [46] - 75:5, 89:18, 91:2, 97:6, 
105:1, 108:14, 111:24, 116:14, 
120:18, 134:9, 142:2, 144:8, 144:25, 
163:8, 195:4, 202:12, 202:14, 203:13, 
204:8, 204:14, 204:21, 205:1, 205:3, 
206:18, 206:24, 207:6, 207:7, 207:16, 
208:1, 208:6, 208:13, 209:8, 209:12, 
209:14, 209:15, 210:12, 210:18, 
217:23, 218:8, 218:21, 222:23, 223:2, 
224:7, 224:16, 224:18
JUDGE [1] - 68:10
JUDGE [5] - 104:22, 108:9, 120:15, 
172:25, 217:14
JUDGMENT [1] - 202:20
JUDICIAL [1] - 225:7
JULY [11] - 153:8, 154:5, 156:13, 164:3, 
165:9, 167:22, 168:6, 168:8, 174:13, 
184:23, 185:3
JUMP [1] - 134:5
JUMPED [1] - 129:20
JUMPS [1] - 179:11
JUNE [25] - 103:10, 105:17, 105:20, 
113:8, 114:1, 114:20, 114:24, 116:17, 
117:6, 132:8, 139:6, 140:1, 141:8, 
142:16, 142:21, 143:24, 144:13, 
145:3, 147:10, 147:24, 148:5, 150:14, 
192:2, 195:17, 195:20
JURORS [1] - 70:3
JURY [34] - 71:13, 71:14, 71:16, 95:7, 
120:8, 120:22, 120:23, 126:18, 141:1, 
141:24, 155:4, 175:17, 175:20, 180:7, 
185:21, 189:24, 189:25, 193:5, 
200:22, 200:24, 202:9, 202:21, 203:2, 
205:3, 205:22, 207:11, 209:24, 210:6, 
210:11, 212:18, 212:24, 216:6, 
221:15, 222:1
JURY [1] - 68:9
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JURY'S [1] - 202:25
K
KAUSHAL [3] - 221:5, 223:10, 224:22
KAUSHAL [8] - 68:15, 116:10, 219:4, 
219:22, 221:10, 223:11, 223:18, 225:5
KEEP [5] - 83:14, 88:8, 127:20, 127:23, 
207:18
KEPT [2] - 154:17, 184:3
KEVIN [3] - 134:22, 135:4, 135:13
KEY [1] - 207:5
KEYBOARD [1] - 101:22
KILLING [1] - 185:10
KIND [10] - 152:10, 161:24, 177:10, 
178:8, 183:23, 183:24, 193:11, 194:1, 
204:1, 218:7
KNOCK [3] - 173:23, 182:22, 203:5
KNOCK-AND-TALK [3] - 173:23, 
182:22, 203:5
KNOWING [2] - 127:20, 215:16
KNOWINGLY [1] - 216:18
KNOWLEDGE [8] - 96:9, 133:10, 200:5, 
201:7, 203:14, 204:11, 207:5, 220:15
KNOWS [2] - 207:17, 217:25
KRONOS [2] - 80:19, 80:21
L
LACK [2] - 126:6, 126:14
LADIES [3] - 71:16, 120:8, 200:22
LAID [3] - 94:22, 126:4, 163:3
LAND [2] - 82:3, 82:13
LANGUAGE [1] - 206:9
LAPTOP [16] - 73:18, 73:19, 77:14, 
78:9, 78:14, 79:9, 79:13, 79:14, 79:15, 
170:8, 173:11, 173:14, 173:16, 
175:12, 197:9
LAPTOPS [2] - 177:4, 178:4
LAS [4] - 77:15, 77:24, 78:2, 78:13
LAST [11] - 130:7, 148:2, 158:16, 166:6, 
167:22, 167:24, 168:3, 217:9, 217:11, 
222:19
LASTING [1] - 217:12
LATE [1] - 148:23
LAUNDERING [11] - 106:1, 133:17, 
173:4, 201:6, 201:18, 201:25, 203:7, 
204:20, 205:4, 211:7, 215:21
LAW [1] - 221:23
LAWYER [1] - 220:4
LAY [1] - 93:15
LEARN [2] - 119:20, 127:19
LEARNED [1] - 133:6
LEAST [3] - 179:24, 208:24, 218:11
LEAVE [3] - 129:5, 129:10, 151:14
LEE [7] - 108:8, 113:1, 134:4, 146:17, 
188:19, 207:9, 219:11
LEFT [4] - 76:2, 147:7, 151:10, 223:12
LEGITIMATE [1] - 96:9
LEIGH [1] - 68:18
LEIGH [1] - 194:9
LENDER [2] - 94:11, 94:14
LENGTHS [1] - 214:22
LENOVO [3] - 77:19, 78:9, 78:14
LESS [2] - 112:18, 132:11
LETTER [1] - 131:6
LETTERS [1] - 183:6
LETTING [1] - 183:12
LEXIS [2] - 209:15, 209:16
LIAR [1] - 70:19
LICENSE [1] - 84:25
LIED [1] - 70:14
LIES [1] - 213:13
LIGHT [2] - 202:23, 216:24
LIKELY [1] - 177:13
LIMINE [1] - 207:17
LINDA [1] - 148:25
LINE [1] - 1:7
LINE [10] - 84:8, 84:9, 111:4, 111:17, 
111:21, 112:9, 128:20, 152:9, 213:25, 
216:16
LINES [1] - 70:24
LINING [1] - 112:14
LINK [4] - 198:2, 198:17, 198:21
LIST [25] - 91:7, 91:16, 91:25, 94:8, 
97:16, 98:15, 117:15, 146:7, 146:12, 
146:17, 146:22, 147:3, 149:14, 
149:18, 161:10, 194:9, 195:13, 
195:20, 195:23, 195:25, 196:3, 196:5, 
196:15, 223:25
LISTED [15] - 99:15, 109:9, 152:12, 
152:15, 152:17, 152:20, 153:12, 
153:17, 153:22, 161:18, 171:23, 
171:25, 177:6, 177:23, 177:24
LISTENED [1] - 174:18
LISTENER [1] - 126:22
LISTING [1] - 159:25
LISTS [2] - 82:20, 90:14
LIVED [2] - 72:16, 72:19
LLC [1] - 96:8
LOADED [3] - 136:4, 136:7, 136:9
LOAN [34] - 77:3, 81:6, 84:10, 84:13, 
84:16, 84:20, 86:5, 87:19, 87:22, 
87:25, 88:2, 94:9, 95:18, 127:13, 
127:16, 130:7, 135:22, 138:12, 146:9, 
146:14, 146:19, 146:24, 173:25, 
185:25, 186:10, 186:17, 187:9, 
206:20, 206:21, 207:2, 214:13, 
214:20, 214:25, 215:7
LOANS [25] - 87:15, 87:17, 87:20, 
92:18, 93:20, 96:6, 97:24, 118:15, 
119:4, 128:9, 130:1, 133:13, 137:23, 
195:13, 195:16, 195:20, 195:24, 
196:1, 214:6, 214:11, 214:12, 216:11, 
216:19
LOCATED [2] - 78:8, 78:9
LOCATION [4] - 205:17, 206:4, 213:2, 
215:18
LOCKED [1] - 215:25
LOG [3] - 73:8, 136:14, 215:2
238
LOG-IN [1] - 136:14
LOG-INS [2] - 73:8, 215:2
LOGISTIC [1] - 148:25
LOGISTICS [1] - 98:1
LOGS [1] - 204:16
LOL [1] - 137:21
LOOK [40] - 74:10, 77:12, 83:6, 84:23, 
88:24, 90:9, 96:13, 98:18, 98:19, 
104:12, 104:22, 109:24, 110:17, 
113:3, 113:20, 113:22, 117:18, 122:4, 
135:10, 139:11, 141:4, 175:10, 176:3, 
176:4, 176:8, 176:18, 178:14, 178:17, 
179:2, 179:18, 180:9, 182:15, 188:23, 
194:14, 198:25, 208:13, 212:22, 
215:20, 221:9, 222:8
LOOKED [9] - 94:1, 117:15, 124:12, 
136:20, 138:25, 139:4, 148:2, 163:1, 
179:3
LOOKING [12] - 90:9, 108:5, 115:15, 
115:20, 116:11, 137:21, 148:11, 
158:16, 169:6, 178:7, 191:18, 195:14
LOOKS [10] - 75:10, 76:25, 77:14, 
78:22, 78:25, 84:22, 89:9, 108:18, 
120:5
LOSE [1] - 224:20
LOSING [1] - 87:21
LOST [1] - 100:22
LOUD [1] - 178:2
LOW [4] - 204:6, 204:8, 204:10
LUNCH [1] - 71:17
M
M-I-L-E-S [1] - 205:20
MAGAZINE [1] - 75:11
MAIL [60] - 72:21, 72:23, 73:4, 85:3, 
85:6, 85:9, 89:7, 89:8, 89:10, 89:21, 
89:23, 94:17, 96:18, 97:9, 98:23, 99:9, 
99:13, 100:2, 100:19, 100:21, 101:2, 
111:5, 113:6, 113:25, 114:18, 114:23, 
115:1, 115:6, 115:11, 118:4, 118:20, 
121:5, 121:13, 123:10, 124:3, 135:10, 
135:25, 139:23, 141:7, 141:19, 
142:18, 142:22, 143:11, 143:14, 
143:16, 143:17, 143:23, 144:2, 
144:12, 145:3, 169:3, 173:8, 186:5, 
186:9, 187:23, 216:16
MAIL'S [1] - 73:1
MAILBOX [2] - 129:6, 129:10
MAILED [1] - 149:2
MAILS [43] - 73:8, 85:8, 92:12, 94:16, 
94:19, 96:12, 100:19, 100:20, 100:24, 
101:4, 101:7, 101:8, 102:1, 102:12, 
111:5, 111:10, 114:14, 121:18, 
125:11, 130:22, 135:4, 140:3, 140:8, 
141:11, 147:16, 148:17, 169:5, 169:8, 
169:11, 186:4, 186:6, 186:15, 189:13, 
197:1, 199:16, 199:21, 199:24, 202:3, 
202:4, 202:7, 204:16, 216:9
MAIN [3] - 204:20, 205:2, 208:20
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MAINTAIN [1] - 162:22
MANAGE [1] - 214:3
MANAGEMENT [13] - 97:13, 146:6, 
169:17, 169:19, 169:20, 170:1, 170:4, 
190:10, 190:15, 203:12, 203:20, 
204:7, 208:16
MANAGEMENT [4] - 213:25, 214:1, 
214:2, 216:3
MARCH [2] - 84:8, 131:5
MARK [1] - 174:22
MARKED [5] - 103:21, 107:7, 120:2, 
122:3, 179:5
MARKING [2] - 79:13, 79:15
MARSHALL [25] - 75:4, 108:12, 112:23, 
113:18, 120:13, 163:7, 168:19, 
171:14, 172:16, 179:4, 189:18, 190:2, 
195:14, 202:11, 204:24, 207:15, 
210:19, 212:1, 212:8, 212:19, 216:22, 
217:4, 217:13, 219:8, 224:6
MARSHALL [63] - 68:20, 75:5, 89:18, 
91:2, 97:6, 99:4, 103:23, 103:25, 
104:22, 105:1, 108:9, 108:13, 111:23, 
112:25, 114:9, 116:14, 120:15, 
120:18, 123:1, 134:9, 142:2, 142:8, 
142:10, 144:6, 144:8, 144:25, 157:23, 
163:8, 172:18, 175:16, 175:19, 179:8, 
179:13, 183:19, 185:16, 185:18, 
187:13, 187:16, 188:11, 188:13, 
190:3, 190:4, 191:6, 191:8, 191:21, 
191:25, 192:21, 192:22, 194:6, 
194:12, 195:4, 200:17, 202:12, 205:1, 
207:16, 217:14, 218:17, 219:10, 
222:14, 222:23, 223:2, 224:7, 224:16
MARSHALL'S [1] - 112:12
MARSHALL).............172 [1] - 69:4
MASTER [1] - 75:10
MATCH [1] - 143:1
MATERIAL [6] - 197:15, 211:2, 211:14, 
211:15, 212:13, 216:22
MATERIALS [2] - 173:8, 225:3
MATTER [11] - 71:4, 91:13, 111:20, 
112:1, 112:3, 123:8, 126:13, 127:8, 
129:10, 164:13, 220:23
MATTERS [1] - 112:3
MAY [2] - 1:3, 1:5
MEAN [7] - 72:13, 86:3, 108:1, 112:7, 
143:16, 184:16, 223:25
MEANING [1] - 83:3
MEANS [1] - 155:4
MEET [3] - 211:19, 220:16, 220:20
MEETING [1] - 184:11
MEETINGS [5] - 180:23, 181:1, 181:15, 
183:5
MEETS [1] - 161:11
MEMO [1] - 213:24
MEMORY [1] - 160:25
MENTION [6] - 174:11, 177:3, 182:9, 
182:15, 193:10, 214:24
MENTIONED [5] - 151:18, 174:24, 
190:18, 192:25, 212:8
MERELY [2] - 206:3, 206:6
MESSAGE [33] - 89:7, 89:8, 96:18, 
96:19, 105:8, 113:5, 114:13, 123:9, 
123:11, 126:1, 137:21, 139:4, 139:21, 
140:8, 145:6, 145:7, 145:14, 148:11, 
152:24, 153:2, 153:5, 156:23, 158:16, 
158:22, 160:23, 164:10, 164:24, 
164:25, 167:8, 167:22, 167:25, 168:3, 
199:5
MESSAGES [71] - 90:22, 92:11, 92:16, 
93:1, 93:19, 94:12, 101:7, 101:15, 
101:25, 102:4, 102:14, 104:8, 104:9, 
106:4, 106:8, 106:18, 106:20, 106:22, 
110:5, 110:12, 111:4, 111:19, 111:22, 
119:8, 119:11, 119:24, 122:6, 122:9, 
122:13, 122:14, 128:17, 128:21, 
131:20, 131:23, 132:5, 132:11, 
132:14, 132:20, 133:22, 135:7, 
138:25, 139:3, 143:1, 145:20, 147:11, 
149:6, 149:23, 157:17, 160:13, 161:1, 
163:1, 163:2, 166:6, 177:21, 177:22, 
186:12, 186:15, 186:16, 186:22, 
187:23, 187:24, 189:14, 197:1, 202:3, 
204:17, 204:18, 215:11, 216:15
MESSAGING [1] - 101:23
MET [2] - 208:21, 209:9
METABANK [1] - 154:17
METHOD [1] - 160:1
MICROPHONE [1] - 98:5
MIDDLE [1] - 180:18
MIDNIGHT [1] - 118:10
MIGHT [9] - 86:3, 87:13, 88:25, 122:13, 
125:22, 182:15, 218:19, 220:6
MIKIES [2] - 96:8, 130:7
MILES [1] - 205:20
MILLER [2] - 134:23, 135:4
MILLER'S [1] - 135:10
MILLION [3] - 81:12, 81:13, 81:14
MILLIONS [1] - 81:10
MIND [3] - 139:20, 190:8, 223:20
MINUTE [5] - 70:6, 120:9, 172:21, 175:4, 
189:21
MINUTES [5] - 120:6, 174:19, 175:9, 
181:19, 222:11
MISSED [3] - 83:2, 83:16, 85:21
MISSING [7] - 178:24, 179:15, 179:17, 
179:24, 180:3, 180:6, 180:14
MISTAKE [1] - 211:1
ML [1] - 95:25
MOMENT [8] - 134:1, 134:15, 139:15, 
168:12, 172:9, 200:23, 204:24, 207:8
MONEY [58] - 78:6, 80:7, 80:11, 80:20, 
81:5, 81:17, 81:23, 81:24, 82:1, 82:3, 
87:22, 87:25, 102:15, 102:17, 106:1, 
106:6, 106:10, 106:13, 106:19, 107:1, 
107:5, 109:1, 109:15, 129:4, 133:16, 
133:19, 157:4, 165:20, 165:22, 
166:10, 167:17, 173:4, 173:25, 
175:15, 201:5, 201:18, 201:25, 203:7, 
204:20, 205:4, 206:6, 206:24, 208:10, 
239
208:14, 211:7, 212:24, 213:3, 213:5, 
213:7, 213:12, 213:13, 213:18, 214:5, 
214:23, 215:21, 215:23
MONTH [3] - 185:3, 185:13, 203:21
MONTHLY [1] - 204:6
MONTHS [4] - 132:11, 185:3, 185:7, 
201:11
MOORE [1] - 68:15
MORNING [9] - 207:12, 217:4, 217:11, 
217:17, 217:19, 220:20, 222:16, 
222:19, 223:6
MOST [6] - 94:11, 181:1, 202:23, 
204:19, 216:25, 222:19
MOTION [6] - 201:3, 202:12, 202:19, 
207:17, 210:17, 224:10
MOTIONS [4] - 201:1, 202:11, 216:23, 
217:2
MOVE [25] - 75:1, 89:15, 90:24, 91:18, 
97:3, 99:1, 104:19, 107:18, 110:14, 
114:6, 116:8, 122:22, 125:25, 134:7, 
141:22, 144:5, 144:22, 157:20, 161:6, 
162:15, 176:11, 205:22, 208:14, 
218:11, 220:23
MOVING [1] - 213:3
MR [69] - 75:5, 89:18, 91:2, 97:6, 99:4, 
103:23, 103:25, 104:22, 105:1, 108:9, 
108:13, 111:23, 112:25, 114:9, 
116:10, 116:14, 120:15, 120:18, 
123:1, 134:9, 142:2, 142:8, 142:10, 
144:6, 144:8, 144:25, 157:23, 163:8, 
172:18, 175:16, 175:19, 179:8, 
179:13, 183:19, 185:16, 185:18, 
187:13, 187:16, 188:11, 188:13, 
190:3, 190:4, 191:6, 191:8, 191:21, 
191:25, 192:21, 192:22, 194:6, 
194:12, 195:4, 200:17, 202:12, 205:1, 
207:16, 217:14, 218:17, 219:4, 
219:10, 219:22, 221:10, 222:14, 
222:23, 223:2, 223:11, 223:18, 224:7, 
224:16, 225:5
MS [243] - 71:24, 71:25, 75:1, 75:3, 75:7, 
75:8, 82:17, 82:19, 83:13, 83:15, 84:5, 
84:7, 85:11, 85:13, 86:7, 86:8, 87:12, 
88:6, 88:10, 88:15, 88:17, 89:15, 
89:17, 89:20, 90:24, 91:1, 91:4, 91:5, 
91:6, 91:9, 91:12, 91:14, 91:17, 91:21, 
92:6, 92:7, 92:20, 92:22, 92:25, 93:6, 
93:8, 93:10, 93:13, 93:17, 93:18, 
94:22, 95:1, 95:3, 95:6, 96:23, 96:24, 
97:3, 97:5, 97:8, 98:7, 98:9, 99:1, 
99:3, 99:6, 99:7, 103:24, 104:1, 
104:19, 104:21, 104:24, 105:3, 105:4, 
107:18, 107:20, 107:23, 107:25, 
108:6, 108:16, 109:3, 109:5, 110:14, 
110:20, 110:22, 111:4, 111:18, 112:2, 
112:14, 112:18, 112:20, 113:2, 114:6, 
114:8, 114:11, 114:12, 114:17, 116:8, 
116:12, 116:13, 116:16, 117:24, 
118:1, 120:12, 121:1, 121:2, 122:22, 
122:24, 123:5, 123:7, 123:17, 123:20, 
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123:21, 124:4, 124:8, 124:16, 124:19, 
124:20, 125:24, 126:4, 126:12, 
126:18, 126:25, 127:7, 127:10, 128:3, 
128:10, 129:7, 129:9, 129:13, 129:16, 
134:1, 134:3, 134:8, 134:11, 134:14, 
134:18, 136:18, 136:19, 138:6, 138:7, 
139:15, 139:16, 140:13, 140:20, 
140:23, 141:2, 141:3, 141:13, 141:15, 
141:16, 141:17, 141:22, 141:25, 
142:5, 142:9, 142:11, 144:4, 144:7, 
144:10, 144:11, 144:22, 144:24, 
145:2, 148:8, 148:10, 148:21, 148:22, 
149:12, 149:13, 150:2, 150:7, 150:8, 
152:3, 152:5, 152:9, 152:11, 152:23, 
153:1, 156:19, 156:21, 157:7, 157:8, 
157:20, 157:24, 158:1, 158:3, 158:14, 
158:15, 158:19, 158:21, 159:6, 159:7, 
159:13, 159:15, 159:19, 159:21, 
161:6, 161:8, 161:15, 162:15, 162:18, 
162:21, 162:25, 163:11, 163:16, 
163:18, 163:20, 164:21, 164:23, 
165:4, 165:6, 166:4, 166:7, 166:16, 
166:18, 167:5, 167:7, 167:19, 167:21, 
168:12, 168:14, 168:15, 172:9, 
172:12, 172:15, 179:4, 195:8, 195:11, 
197:18, 197:22, 198:1, 198:10, 
198:13, 200:12, 200:14, 200:16, 
200:20, 201:2, 201:5, 210:21, 210:24, 
217:5, 217:10, 219:7, 220:13, 222:3, 
222:13, 223:4, 224:4
MULTIPLE [2] - 130:1, 196:3
MUST [4] - 202:20, 205:5, 206:2, 206:5
MY.. [1] - 104:23
MYRIAD [1] - 224:11
N
NAH [1] - 166:22
NAME [15] - 77:9, 94:8, 109:17, 137:8, 
141:18, 142:6, 142:13, 142:14, 144:2, 
160:1, 160:5, 162:7, 162:8, 165:10
NAMED [1] - 118:22
NAMES [11] - 90:15, 94:2, 134:21, 
134:25, 135:18, 135:20, 136:14, 
160:2, 191:14, 191:16
NATURE [10] - 176:10, 189:14, 190:14, 
201:20, 205:17, 206:4, 206:6, 208:10, 
213:1, 215:18
NAVY [1] - 86:10
NECESSARILY [1] - 126:25
NECK [1] - 162:14
NECKLACE [1] - 78:25
NEED [29] - 70:5, 71:18, 84:9, 84:12, 
84:24, 85:14, 86:3, 86:4, 126:15, 
137:15, 140:15, 159:12, 164:4, 166:9, 
169:8, 169:9, 176:11, 212:22, 214:18, 
214:19, 217:25, 219:14, 219:16, 
219:17, 220:3, 220:23, 220:24, 222:21
NEEDED [1] - 189:20
NEEDING [1] - 221:25
NEEDS [7] - 177:18, 211:11, 214:20, 
215:20, 218:7, 219:15, 220:4
NEIGHBORHOODS [1] - 79:16
NEVER [7] - 162:21, 162:25, 174:3, 
174:24, 175:5, 175:10, 193:4
NEVERTHELESS [1] - 70:22
NEW [3] - 133:22, 150:16, 156:23
NEXT [28] - 70:13, 84:13, 84:14, 84:23, 
85:12, 88:7, 152:17, 158:19, 161:18, 
164:10, 164:21, 166:5, 166:16, 167:5, 
167:8, 167:19, 177:9, 177:23, 178:1, 
178:3, 178:15, 181:18, 198:11, 
199:10, 199:11, 200:19, 203:18
NICE [1] - 223:5
NICKNAMES [1] - 162:9
NIGHT [4] - 148:24, 153:7, 153:8, 154:2
NINE [1] - 77:6
NO [1] - 68:5
NOBODY [1] - 221:23
NONE [3] - 80:4, 142:2, 174:5
NORTHERN [2] - 68:1, 226:4
NOTE [4] - 90:13, 90:19, 189:20, 214:6
NOTED [1] - 71:7
NOTES [4] - 136:12, 147:12, 147:21, 
147:23
NOTHING [9] - 133:22, 172:13, 183:10, 
204:3, 206:22, 206:23, 206:25, 
210:14, 213:3
NOTICE [5] - 93:5, 93:10, 93:11, 178:13, 
225:7
NOTICED [1] - 110:16
NUMBER [2] - 1:6, 1:7
NUMBER [34] - 81:9, 81:17, 83:7, 83:20, 
85:18, 85:22, 95:23, 95:24, 95:25, 
96:1, 96:3, 96:5, 96:8, 98:16, 99:16, 
141:14, 142:8, 152:18, 153:17, 
153:19, 161:9, 161:14, 161:18, 
161:21, 161:24, 205:6, 205:9, 205:16, 
208:9, 216:14, 216:15
NUMBERED [1] - 178:11
NUMBERS [9] - 148:6, 148:7, 150:14, 
150:16, 161:16, 163:24, 163:25, 
164:1, 178:14
O
OBJECT [5] - 91:1, 107:21, 163:2, 
212:12, 224:4
OBJECTED [1] - 93:10
OBJECTING [1] - 140:22
OBJECTION [60] - 70:12, 70:16, 70:23, 
71:12, 71:23, 75:3, 75:5, 89:17, 89:18, 
91:2, 91:4, 93:13, 95:1, 97:5, 97:6, 
99:3, 99:4, 104:21, 105:1, 108:12, 
108:14, 110:19, 111:23, 112:21, 
112:23, 114:8, 114:9, 116:13, 116:14, 
122:24, 123:1, 123:3, 124:4, 124:10, 
125:24, 126:10, 127:5, 129:7, 134:8, 
134:9, 140:23, 142:1, 144:6, 144:7, 
144:8, 144:24, 144:25, 150:2, 157:23, 
157:24, 161:8, 162:17, 162:22, 163:7, 
240
163:8, 219:3, 219:4, 219:5, 219:9, 
219:10
OBTAIN [1] - 169:5
OBTAINED [3] - 172:20, 174:3, 206:24
OBVIOUSLY [5] - 130:19, 131:13, 
196:8, 212:2, 218:23
OCCUPYING [1] - 75:19
OCCUR [2] - 155:22, 225:9
OCCURRED [6] - 184:22, 185:2, 185:7, 
201:10, 211:25
OCCURRING [1] - 201:7
OCCURS [3] - 210:4, 211:3, 211:14
ODD [1] - 224:12
OF [10] - 1:2, 1:5, 1:6, 68:1, 68:4, 68:9, 
68:14, 68:17, 68:20, 226:4
OFF-THE-RECORD [1] - 179:12
OFF-THE-RECORD [2] - 197:21, 223:8
OFFENSE [5] - 203:7, 205:4, 210:5, 
211:7, 211:11
OFFER [1] - 221:6
OFFERED [7] - 71:1, 91:12, 112:3, 
123:7, 126:12, 127:7, 129:9
OFFERING [3] - 92:22, 92:25, 111:19
OFFICE [2] - 178:22, 194:4
OFFICER [1] - 70:4
OFFICER [3] - 70:2, 70:17, 207:9
OFFICIAL [6] - 1:2, 1:3, 1:4, 1:8, 68:24, 
226:15
OFFICIAL [2] - 179:15, 179:18
OMITTED [1] - 178:25
ON [3] - 68:14, 68:17, 68:20
ONCE [2] - 80:12, 155:14
ONE [63] - 74:2, 74:4, 75:12, 76:5, 
76:17, 77:2, 78:17, 78:18, 79:10, 
88:15, 88:25, 95:15, 100:12, 103:23, 
113:16, 115:18, 115:19, 115:21, 
116:22, 116:23, 118:14, 120:4, 124:2, 
130:4, 133:16, 134:1, 134:14, 137:17, 
139:2, 139:15, 140:16, 141:11, 
143:21, 146:9, 153:14, 159:22, 162:9, 
165:16, 168:12, 171:12, 172:9, 
176:25, 184:7, 192:12, 194:14, 
194:23, 196:8, 197:19, 197:20, 
200:12, 202:7, 204:24, 205:6, 207:8, 
210:12, 210:22, 213:3, 215:23, 
217:25, 218:24, 219:1, 219:22, 220:24
ONES [9] - 79:10, 95:21, 113:6, 114:18, 
116:19, 139:23, 147:7, 156:3
ONLY [2] - 1:3, 1:7
OPEN [8] - 71:10, 208:12, 208:16, 
208:19, 218:2, 223:12, 223:25
OPEN [1] - 70:1
OPENING [2] - 208:24, 212:9
OPENS [1] - 71:8
OPERATIONS [1] - 146:17
OPINION [1] - 206:15
OPPORTUNITY [5] - 87:22, 175:25, 
182:25, 220:1, 220:15
OPPOSED [2] - 201:23, 212:10
OPTION [1] - 172:23
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OR [1] - 1:9
ORDER [4] - 169:8, 175:6, 210:24, 
217:3
ORGANIZATION [2] - 171:15, 171:24
ORGANIZER [1] - 171:23
ORGANIZERS [1] - 172:4
ORIGINAL [3] - 89:7, 89:8, 178:18
OTHERWISE [3] - 91:22, 112:4, 209:23
OUTSIDE [1] - 184:13
OVERALL [1] - 208:5
OVERARCHING [1] - 100:7
OVERLOOK [1] - 74:6
OVERRULE [1] - 93:14
OVERRULED [6] - 71:12, 71:23, 95:2, 
126:2, 163:5, 163:17
OVERTURNED [1] - 202:25
OWED [1] - 88:18
OWES [1] - 165:23
OWN [5] - 138:17, 212:22, 214:12, 
215:6, 215:21
OWNERS [1] - 80:12
OWNERSHIP [2] - 205:18, 206:4
P
P.M [16] - 71:14, 113:12, 114:1, 117:6, 
120:20, 120:21, 120:23, 140:1, 141:8, 
143:25, 189:22, 189:23, 189:25, 
199:9, 200:24, 225:12
PAGE [49] - 69:2, 83:13, 83:14, 85:12, 
88:7, 88:9, 88:15, 88:16, 106:22, 
109:4, 109:9, 124:2, 148:9, 152:24, 
156:20, 158:14, 158:20, 164:2, 
164:21, 164:25, 165:1, 166:5, 166:16, 
166:19, 167:5, 167:9, 167:20, 178:1, 
178:3, 178:8, 178:13, 178:14, 178:15, 
178:24, 179:11, 191:22, 194:16, 
198:3, 198:11, 205:21, 209:13, 209:16
PAGE [1] - 1:7
PAGES [13] - 83:12, 176:4, 178:10, 
178:11, 178:16, 178:25, 179:15, 
179:17, 179:24, 180:3, 180:6, 180:14, 
226:6
PAID [2] - 102:17, 107:5
PANASONIC [1] - 79:9
PANDEMIC [1] - 87:21
PAPER [4] - 76:24, 108:18, 135:18, 
135:20
PAPERS [2] - 156:23, 169:21
PARAGRAPH [1] - 84:23
PARKER [1] - 95:24
PART [17] - 87:1, 125:10, 125:15, 
125:18, 125:19, 137:9, 162:5, 163:12, 
173:14, 178:7, 179:8, 179:10, 182:24, 
191:24, 205:25, 210:17
PARTIAL [1] - 1:9
PARTICIPATE [1] - 218:5
PARTICIPATED [1] - 216:19
PARTICULAR [1] - 178:6
PARTICULARLY [1] - 124:1
PARTIES [3] - 136:25, 180:22, 190:18
PARTY [2] - 179:21, 187:9
PASS [2] - 107:22, 110:17
PASSWORDS [1] - 136:13
PATTERN [3] - 99:8, 143:5, 144:18
PAUSE [1] - 70:19
PAXLOVID [1] - 217:21
PAY [6] - 160:1, 201:23, 214:5, 214:10, 
214:11
PAY [1] - 80:16
PAYCARD [8] - 152:7, 152:13, 153:14, 
153:20, 153:25, 155:2, 155:17, 165:9
PAYCARDS [4] - 77:6, 78:6, 81:16, 
165:13
PAYCHECK [1] - 185:22
PAYCHECKS [1] - 86:21
PAYING [1] - 165:1
PAYMENT [2] - 215:22, 215:23
PAYMENTS [5] - 170:17, 214:6, 214:10, 
214:13, 216:16
PAYROLL [18] - 76:24, 94:5, 99:22, 
100:2, 100:6, 137:22, 160:2, 213:8, 
213:9, 213:18, 213:25, 214:3, 214:4, 
214:8, 214:9, 216:2, 216:3
PDF [1] - 1:2
PENNY [2] - 68:24, 226:15
PEOPLE [20] - 72:4, 104:13, 107:16, 
125:22, 132:18, 133:3, 135:21, 
150:18, 151:17, 151:20, 151:25, 
160:10, 162:11, 164:14, 167:11, 
167:14, 167:15, 182:20, 183:6, 204:7
PER [2] - 84:24, 210:9
PERCENTAGE [5] - 165:3, 165:19, 
165:25, 167:10, 167:12
PERHAPS [2] - 205:24, 223:19
PERIOD [4] - 143:9, 164:17, 168:8, 
218:12
PERIOD [1] - 1:5
PERMIT [1] - 209:25
PERSON [3] - 194:23, 209:22, 218:25
PERSONAL [1] - 79:14
PERSONALLY [2] - 101:10, 193:9
PERSONS [1] - 191:1
PERSUADED [2] - 216:21, 216:23
PHONE [38] - 73:22, 77:14, 78:16, 87:1, 
90:13, 100:17, 102:7, 102:8, 119:7, 
119:17, 121:16, 121:20, 121:23, 
122:12, 122:15, 122:20, 132:22, 
132:23, 160:13, 161:1, 161:4, 161:9, 
161:14, 161:16, 161:21, 161:22, 
163:12, 196:22, 197:2, 199:1, 199:3, 
199:10, 204:17, 216:14, 216:15, 
217:20
PHONES [2] - 177:4, 178:4
PHONY [1] - 208:14
PHOTO [1] - 75:9
PHOTOS [4] - 74:15, 74:18, 74:20, 
74:23
PHRASING [1] - 100:25
PHRONT [17] - 76:25, 88:2, 90:7, 95:15, 
241
95:23, 117:10, 130:4, 134:22, 135:1, 
135:11, 141:20, 156:14, 157:2, 158:9, 
158:10, 164:18, 171:9
PICS [1] - 166:10
PICTURE [8] - 75:22, 76:1, 77:5, 77:6, 
77:12, 78:11, 78:12, 78:16
PICTURES [3] - 76:17, 81:22, 106:15
PIECE [3] - 76:20, 135:18, 135:20
PILE [2] - 79:3, 79:4
PIPE [1] - 218:7
PLACE [3] - 78:11, 156:1, 219:16
PLAN [1] - 222:14
PLANNED [1] - 213:15
PLANNING [2] - 220:18, 223:15
PLANS [1] - 224:21
PLAYED [1] - 102:24
PLEAS [3] - 223:13, 224:11, 225:7
PLED [1] - 209:5
PLURAL [1] - 116:19
PM [2] - 68:6, 70:1
PNC [1] - 188:16
POINT [18] - 100:12, 119:20, 120:6, 
128:22, 147:20, 155:9, 155:18, 
155:19, 183:5, 183:25, 184:7, 193:16, 
196:9, 205:20, 209:14, 209:15, 214:9, 
219:15
POINT-OF-SALE [3] - 155:9, 155:18, 
155:19
POINTED [1] - 201:9
PORTION [1] - 176:8
PORTION [1] - 1:5
POSITIVE [3] - 85:19, 94:10, 217:18
POSSIBLE [2] - 210:7, 211:4
POSSIBLY [2] - 173:19, 173:20
POTENTIALLY [4] - 119:24, 120:1, 
133:7, 133:8
POWER [1] - 148:13
PP [1] - 74:13
PPP [32] - 81:6, 81:24, 83:24, 84:2, 84:4, 
84:16, 84:18, 84:20, 86:4, 87:15, 
92:18, 93:24, 94:9, 101:24, 118:15, 
124:24, 124:25, 127:13, 127:16, 
128:9, 135:21, 138:12, 173:25, 
186:17, 187:9, 206:20, 207:2, 213:10, 
214:19, 215:7, 216:11, 216:19
PREARRANGED [2] - 150:21, 150:23
PREAUTHORIZATION [5] - 155:9, 
155:13, 155:16, 155:18, 155:19
PREAUTHORIZATIONS [1] - 156:6
PREDATES [1] - 84:16
PREDICTION [1] - 221:11
PREJUDICES [2] - 211:17, 212:14
PREPARE [3] - 127:13, 127:16, 149:24
PREPARED [7] - 94:13, 100:2, 128:9, 
148:3, 149:10, 183:23, 222:4
PREPARING [1] - 154:24
PRESENT [2] - 103:19, 172:24
PRESENTED [7] - 170:14, 170:21, 
209:19, 210:14, 215:2, 216:8, 216:12
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PRESENTMENT [1] - 209:24
PRETTY [2] - 183:8, 217:18
PREVENTED [1] - 212:4
PREVIEW [1] - 225:6
PRICE [1] - 155:12
PRIMARILY [4] - 102:3, 196:20, 196:21, 
207:20
PRIMARY [1] - 208:7
PRINT [1] - 177:20
PRINTOUT [1] - 194:8
PRITTY [2] - 68:24, 226:15
PROBABLE [2] - 172:25, 173:6
PROBLEM [1] - 140:18
PROCEED [3] - 120:25, 190:2, 217:3
PROCEEDING [1] - 218:6
PROCEEDINGS [2] - 68:9, 70:1
PROCEEDINGS [4] - 120:21, 189:23, 
225:12, 226:7
PROCEEDS [7] - 185:24, 205:9, 205:13, 
205:18, 206:5, 208:11, 208:19
PROCESS [3] - 112:14, 155:14
PRODUCE [3] - 169:20, 170:5, 170:10
PRODUCED [2] - 163:11, 163:13
PRODUCING [1] - 171:2
PRODUCTION [3] - 176:12, 176:25, 
177:24
PROFFER [10] - 150:18, 150:20, 151:18, 
180:22, 180:23, 181:1, 183:5, 183:9, 
221:6
PROFFERS [1] - 183:8
PROGRAM [1] - 185:22
PROGRAM [3] - 84:18, 124:25, 213:10
PROHIBITED [1] - 1:9
PROJECT [6] - 193:1, 204:9, 213:6, 
213:16, 213:21, 213:23
PROJECTS [2] - 149:6, 213:18
PROMISE [2] - 207:13, 222:9
PROMISES [1] - 222:12
PROOF [3] - 131:23, 205:14, 209:20
PROPENSITY [1] - 70:24
PROPERTIES [2] - 82:5, 82:8
PROPERTIES [1] - 80:22
PROPOSAL [8] - 170:13, 170:17, 
170:21, 171:1, 192:25, 193:4, 193:10, 
193:20
PROPOSED [2] - 205:3, 205:22
PROTECTED [1] - 218:1
PROTECTING [3] - 71:2, 71:5, 71:11
PROTECTION [1] - 185:22
PROVE [11] - 91:12, 92:25, 93:1, 
126:12, 126:13, 201:19, 204:4, 205:4, 
206:1, 206:2, 206:13
PROVED [1] - 213:20
PROVEN [5] - 205:8, 205:12, 212:20, 
212:21, 215:9
PROVIDE [4] - 170:1, 183:24, 204:3, 
204:15
PROVIDED [6] - 96:10, 100:3, 100:12, 
141:24, 180:8, 193:4
PROVIDES [1] - 209:22
PROVIDING [1] - 184:1
PTIN [3] - 85:15, 85:24, 86:4
PUBLISH [7] - 136:18, 152:3, 152:23, 
156:19, 158:2, 159:19, 163:18
PUBLISHED [1] - 87:11
PULL [5] - 87:9, 152:24, 166:5, 191:6, 
191:23
PULLED [1] - 87:13
PURCHASE [1] - 82:3
PURCHASED [1] - 82:6
PURCHASES [1] - 82:11
PURPLE [2] - 75:23, 76:2
PURPOSE [16] - 94:14, 183:2, 201:16, 
201:19, 201:22, 201:23, 203:15, 
204:1, 204:2, 205:16, 205:25, 206:3, 
208:10, 213:2, 213:10, 215:18
PURPOSES [1] - 201:12
PURSUANT [8] - 89:16, 97:4, 99:2, 
110:15, 114:7, 144:5, 144:23, 170:2
PURSUE [1] - 172:24
PUSHING [1] - 120:5
PUT [13] - 87:5, 134:25, 135:18, 148:6, 
155:10, 159:12, 160:9, 185:16, 
198:23, 209:19, 224:21, 225:1
PUTTING [1] - 112:16
PYFROM [89] - 70:14, 71:2, 71:6, 71:12, 
72:19, 73:11, 80:5, 89:8, 89:11, 89:24, 
90:19, 92:2, 92:9, 92:13, 92:16, 93:19, 
95:9, 99:21, 99:22, 102:14, 102:18, 
102:21, 103:6, 104:9, 104:10, 104:16, 
105:7, 105:9, 105:11, 105:17, 105:20, 
107:13, 108:20, 110:25, 111:14, 
114:14, 127:12, 127:15, 127:21, 
127:22, 128:14, 128:15, 128:18, 
128:21, 129:14, 130:25, 131:24, 
133:7, 133:10, 133:20, 137:17, 
137:19, 138:1, 138:9, 138:12, 138:15, 
138:20, 138:22, 139:8, 139:11, 
139:22, 140:7, 141:11, 143:2, 143:15, 
143:17, 145:7, 145:21, 145:22, 146:3, 
147:6, 147:9, 147:20, 148:4, 149:5, 
149:18, 150:13, 154:6, 158:25, 168:9, 
196:6, 196:18, 200:2, 200:9, 201:12, 
201:23, 215:22, 215:25
PYFROM'S [1] - 216:4
PYFROM-FOSTER [67] - 71:2, 71:6, 
71:12, 72:19, 73:11, 80:5, 90:19, 92:2, 
92:9, 92:13, 92:16, 93:19, 95:9, 99:21, 
99:22, 102:14, 102:18, 104:9, 104:16, 
105:9, 105:17, 107:13, 108:20, 
110:25, 111:14, 114:14, 127:12, 
127:15, 127:22, 128:14, 128:18, 
128:21, 129:14, 130:25, 133:7, 
137:17, 137:19, 138:1, 138:9, 138:12, 
138:15, 138:20, 138:22, 139:8, 
139:11, 139:22, 140:7, 141:11, 143:2, 
143:15, 143:17, 145:7, 145:21, 
145:22, 146:3, 147:6, 147:9, 147:20, 
148:4, 150:13, 154:6, 158:25, 168:9, 
242
196:6, 196:18, 200:9, 201:12
PYFROM-FOSTER'S [11] - 70:14, 
105:20, 127:21, 128:15, 131:24, 
133:10, 133:20, 149:5, 149:18, 
215:22, 215:25
Q
QUARTER [1] - 77:1
QUESTIONS [31] - 70:8, 70:20, 123:15, 
125:25, 134:12, 134:21, 150:17, 
152:6, 154:12, 155:1, 158:24, 165:12, 
169:2, 169:3, 171:5, 172:19, 175:1, 
175:3, 175:20, 175:24, 180:21, 
181:21, 182:16, 183:4, 184:2, 188:20, 
190:7, 195:23, 199:20, 200:14
QUICKBOOKS [1] - 159:25
QUICKER [2] - 222:21
QUICKLY [1] - 181:21
QUOTE [1] - 71:2
QUOTING [1] - 124:12
R
RAD [1] - 220:17
RAISE [2] - 208:22, 219:1
RAISED [1] - 223:19
RANGE [2] - 76:2, 76:5
RANK [1] - 122:24
RAPID [13] - 77:6, 78:6, 80:16, 81:16, 
152:7, 152:13, 153:14, 153:20, 
153:24, 155:2, 155:17, 165:9, 165:13
RARE [1] - 215:10
RASHID [5] - 118:23, 119:9, 122:6, 
122:15, 124:23
RATE [1] - 160:1
RATIONAL [1] - 217:1
RE [1] - 179:22
RE-REVIEW [1] - 179:22
REACH [3] - 174:15, 193:17, 225:8
REACHED [2] - 154:16, 193:21
READ [7] - 166:19, 176:13, 176:23, 
177:9, 178:2, 210:2, 210:12
READY [3] - 70:3, 70:4, 122:5
REAL [1] - 166:9
REALIZED [2] - 179:14, 223:18
REALIZING [1] - 224:13
REALLY [8] - 79:14, 79:17, 183:23, 
183:24, 184:15, 213:4, 213:15, 220:6
REALTOR [1] - 119:2
REASON [5] - 122:19, 182:24, 193:14, 
214:11, 214:13
REASONABLE [17] - 202:21, 202:22, 
202:24, 203:1, 203:3, 205:8, 205:13, 
205:14, 206:14, 208:2, 208:9, 209:10, 
212:18, 212:21, 213:21, 217:1, 222:11
REBUTTAL [2] - 224:22, 225:2
RECEIPT [7] - 77:15, 77:16, 77:24, 78:8, 
78:13, 155:10, 188:15
RECEIPTS [1] - 81:25
RECEIVE [2] - 93:13, 96:25
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RECEIVED [17] - 80:8, 81:6, 89:12, 
98:23, 101:17, 103:7, 114:3, 115:25, 
116:6, 125:2, 125:4, 131:5, 133:9, 
141:19, 171:8, 171:11, 178:20
RECENTLY [3] - 119:13, 119:15, 119:16
RECESS [3] - 120:20, 189:22, 225:12
RECIPIENT [1] - 110:6
RECOGNIZE [9] - 74:15, 77:23, 96:15, 
98:21, 115:23, 157:15, 160:16, 
160:20, 202:3
RECOGNIZED [1] - 112:5
RECOLLECTION [5] - 106:20, 106:23, 
172:1, 176:1, 177:1
RECONCILIATION [5] - 155:2, 155:19, 
155:21, 156:4, 156:5
RECONSIDER [1] - 125:23
RECORD [7] - 175:22, 179:12, 197:21, 
206:23, 212:23, 223:8, 223:9
RECORDED [1] - 216:10
RECORDED [1] - 68:23
RECORDING [2] - 174:18, 174:22
RECORDINGS [1] - 204:17
RECORDS [19] - 82:24, 109:12, 154:17, 
154:21, 154:22, 156:14, 156:16, 
157:1, 159:1, 159:4, 169:3, 169:23, 
170:7, 173:25, 175:14, 176:8, 176:24, 
216:14, 216:16
RECROSS [4] - 69:4, 69:5, 172:17, 
195:10
RECROSS-EXAMINATION [4] - 69:4, 
69:5, 172:17, 195:10
REDACTED [5] - 113:17, 140:13, 
140:23, 141:24, 142:4
REDACTING [1] - 142:13
REDACTION [1] - 140:17
REDACTIONS [1] - 140:14
REDIRECT [7] - 120:17, 120:18, 134:13, 
172:14, 195:12, 199:15, 200:15
REDIRECT [2] - 69:4, 134:17
REDONE [1] - 150:16
REEVALUATE [2] - 121:20, 125:6
REEXAMINE [1] - 121:20
REEXAMINED [1] - 121:25
REFER [1] - 165:7
REFERENCE [10] - 138:4, 156:9, 
176:10, 177:7, 177:14, 181:20, 
207:16, 207:18, 207:19, 208:24
REFERENCED [3] - 99:18, 177:6, 
203:19
REFERENCES [8] - 87:7, 100:18, 
136:12, 156:8, 176:23, 178:3, 178:10, 
209:17
REFERENCING [1] - 1:7
REFERENCING [2] - 85:23, 89:21
REFERRED [2] - 209:17, 213:14
REFERRING [8] - 76:13, 94:20, 97:25, 
141:11, 145:12, 150:2, 167:12, 175:14
REFERS [2] - 98:10, 99:11
REFLECTS [1] - 105:19
REFRESH [5] - 106:20, 160:25, 172:1, 
175:25, 177:1
REFRESHED [1] - 106:23
REGARDING [1] - 187:5
REGIONAL [1] - 148:13
REGULAR [1] - 86:21
REGULARLY [1] - 207:1
REJOIN [1] - 224:20
RELATED [16] - 156:16, 158:10, 159:4, 
169:21, 169:25, 170:18, 189:9, 
190:13, 194:19, 203:23, 204:19, 
207:22, 208:4, 208:22, 208:23, 212:10
RELATES [1] - 170:17
RELATION [1] - 177:22
RELATIONSHIP [1] - 201:13
RELEVANT [1] - 119:25
RELIABILITY [2] - 91:23, 91:24
RELIABLE [1] - 111:13
RELIEF [1] - 225:9
RELY [1] - 151:20
REMAINING [2] - 195:25, 202:1
REMEMBER [36] - 72:13, 87:1, 105:24, 
106:18, 118:2, 128:20, 139:21, 140:3, 
141:6, 141:10, 143:19, 146:2, 147:16, 
150:20, 151:17, 152:6, 154:9, 154:12, 
155:1, 158:24, 160:12, 166:11, 
168:19, 169:3, 170:13, 171:5, 171:14, 
172:20, 174:10, 181:25, 184:8, 
184:10, 185:2, 191:9, 194:7, 200:3
REMEMBER [1] - 167:3
REMIND [1] - 202:15
REMINDED [1] - 120:8
REMINDING [1] - 184:3
REMOTELY [1] - 219:2
REOPEN [1] - 224:25
REOPENING [1] - 224:4
REPEAT [2] - 92:14, 195:18
REPEATED [1] - 204:15
REPORT [1] - 161:3
REPORTER [4] - 1:4, 1:8, 68:24, 226:15
REPORTER [2] - 114:16, 183:16
REPRESENT [1] - 220:14
REPRESENTED [3] - 174:12, 193:16
REPRESENTING [1] - 193:24
REQUEST [8] - 176:14, 177:6, 177:10, 
177:24, 178:10, 186:23, 194:1, 205:25
REQUESTED [4] - 158:9, 176:9, 179:25, 
225:9
REQUESTING [1] - 177:15
REQUESTS [3] - 176:12, 176:25, 179:9
REQUIRE [2] - 211:9, 221:24
REQUIRED [6] - 151:3, 181:24, 182:1, 
182:4, 182:6
REQUIRES [1] - 211:8
RESEARCH [1] - 71:19
RESERVATION [19] - 146:12, 170:5, 
170:9, 170:15, 170:22, 174:1, 185:23, 
185:25, 186:21, 187:10, 188:16, 
203:25, 206:19, 208:15, 213:17, 
213:23, 215:3, 215:6
243
RESIDENCE [8] - 72:7, 72:12, 74:19, 
77:7, 79:24, 80:1, 80:4, 174:6
RESIDUAL [2] - 91:18, 110:15
RESOURCE [10] - 169:17, 169:19, 
169:20, 170:1, 170:4, 190:11, 203:12, 
203:20, 204:7, 208:16
RESOURCES [1] - 190:16
RESPOND [1] - 220:11
RESPONDED [1] - 180:11
RESPONSE [23] - 91:3, 96:25, 98:23, 
104:6, 111:2, 114:3, 115:25, 123:6, 
159:1, 159:4, 164:18, 170:10, 178:17, 
179:3, 179:6, 179:17, 179:20, 180:4, 
180:15, 187:4, 193:5, 198:22
RESPONSES [1] - 199:2
RESPONSIBLE [1] - 123:10
RESPONSIVE [1] - 179:22
REST [2] - 167:16, 183:18
RESTATE [2] - 100:22, 150:5
RESTAURANT [3] - 155:6, 155:7, 156:1
RESTED [6] - 223:15, 223:19, 224:1, 
224:5, 224:9, 224:23
RESTRICTED [1] - 1:4
RESTS [1] - 200:20
RETIREMENT [1] - 165:20
RETURN [5] - 88:21, 90:5, 90:6, 176:5, 
212:18
RETURNED [1] - 210:11
REVERSAL [1] - 155:15
REVERSE [1] - 210:24
REVERSED [1] - 188:7
REVERSES [1] - 155:20
REVERSIBLE [1] - 210:9
REVIEW [11] - 83:25, 108:13, 123:22, 
145:20, 160:15, 161:1, 175:25, 
176:13, 176:16, 179:20, 179:22
REVIEWED [15] - 90:22, 92:8, 94:16, 
106:4, 119:11, 119:12, 119:14, 
119:18, 122:9, 122:17, 123:11, 
123:23, 160:13, 178:6, 179:22
REVISITED [1] - 224:10
RICHLAND [1] - 80:22
RIGHTS [2] - 183:13, 212:15
RMR [2] - 68:24, 226:15
ROAD [2] - 126:9, 221:11
ROADRUNNER [15] - 171:5, 171:15, 
171:18, 171:20, 171:23, 191:11, 
192:16, 194:16, 194:19, 207:7, 
207:17, 207:18, 207:19, 207:22, 208:4
ROBINS [1] - 98:1
ROOM [1] - 95:24
ROOM [1] - 75:18
ROUND [1] - 75:12
ROUTE [3] - 126:23, 173:9, 187:3
ROVER [2] - 76:2, 76:5
RULE [1] - 224:14
RULE [11] - 91:19, 91:21, 99:2, 110:15, 
110:23, 144:5, 144:23, 201:2, 202:12, 
210:17, 216:23
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RULED [2] - 224:10, 224:17
RULING [2] - 223:21, 225:4
RULINGS [1] - 224:17
S
SALE [3] - 155:9, 155:18, 155:19
SAMIR [1] - 68:15
SARALIENE [1] - 68:18
SATISFY [1] - 203:7
SAVES [1] - 198:8
SAW [10] - 73:16, 73:19, 81:22, 83:25, 
94:11, 119:24, 132:2, 143:5, 155:23, 
223:15
SCHEDULED [3] - 150:25, 151:1, 181:4
SCREEN [1] - 116:21
SCROLL [10] - 83:12, 88:7, 96:2, 
149:17, 158:19, 159:13, 166:4, 
167:19, 187:14, 198:25
SCROLLING [1] - 88:8
SE [1] - 210:9
SEARCH [25] - 73:24, 74:18, 74:23, 
78:2, 79:23, 80:1, 85:3, 85:5, 168:22, 
169:9, 169:13, 172:20, 172:23, 173:1, 
173:7, 173:13, 173:14, 173:18, 174:3, 
175:11, 186:25, 187:2, 199:15, 199:23
SEATED [4] - 71:15, 120:24, 190:1, 
200:25
SECOND [12] - 87:14, 88:25, 103:23, 
104:7, 162:5, 177:6, 197:20, 200:12, 
203:6, 209:14, 214:7, 219:16
SECRETARY [1] - 191:10
SECTION [2] - 177:9, 177:23
SECTION [1] - 176:12
SECURITY [1] - 70:4
SECURITY [4] - 152:18, 153:17, 153:19, 
207:9
SECURUS [3] - 97:12, 97:17, 97:21
SECURUS [1] - 97:22
SECURUS [1] - 97:23
SEE [75] - 77:12, 77:23, 82:17, 83:1, 
83:6, 83:13, 84:5, 84:8, 85:11, 88:6, 
88:11, 90:18, 92:11, 92:16, 92:22, 
94:19, 95:8, 96:4, 97:15, 97:17, 97:18, 
97:19, 97:24, 98:3, 98:15, 98:17, 99:8, 
99:13, 106:20, 108:9, 108:17, 109:3, 
109:9, 112:9, 113:14, 117:24, 120:3, 
136:15, 137:24, 140:11, 141:25, 
145:21, 145:24, 148:12, 148:23, 
149:23, 150:3, 150:9, 156:22, 158:16, 
159:8, 166:23, 172:25, 175:11, 
178:24, 181:24, 194:1, 195:9, 197:18, 
197:22, 198:2, 198:10, 198:15, 
198:22, 199:5, 200:8, 207:4, 207:12, 
212:13, 218:18, 218:25, 219:12, 
219:13, 222:9, 223:6
SEEING [3] - 131:25, 150:2, 162:22
SEEK [2] - 173:7, 175:6
SEEKING [4] - 93:4, 157:1, 174:25, 
183:3
SEGUE [1] - 205:3
SEIZE [4] - 73:10, 73:22, 76:4, 76:22
SEIZED [4] - 76:5, 76:20, 157:4, 165:13
SEIZURE [1] - 76:6
SEND [2] - 138:4, 148:24
SEND [16] - 84:25, 113:5, 114:14, 
114:18, 116:18, 136:16, 139:5, 
139:23, 143:6, 143:7, 143:16, 148:12, 
158:4, 169:10, 177:15, 216:6
SENDER [1] - 188:18
SENDING [8] - 97:12, 101:4, 143:17, 
145:9, 145:15, 147:20, 147:24, 216:9
SENDS [2] - 144:19, 144:20
SENSE [3] - 138:16, 138:18, 220:7
SENT [55] - 85:8, 90:20, 92:12, 94:6, 
94:16, 95:9, 100:19, 100:20, 100:25, 
101:1, 101:13, 101:15, 102:1, 102:5, 
102:10, 105:8, 105:16, 107:12, 
108:19, 111:5, 111:7, 111:10, 111:12, 
111:15, 113:8, 113:11, 114:23, 115:1, 
116:17, 117:1, 117:6, 117:9, 118:12, 
118:20, 121:12, 125:12, 142:15, 
145:7, 145:18, 146:3, 147:6, 147:17, 
148:18, 149:14, 149:23, 154:2, 
156:22, 156:23, 158:17, 158:22, 
159:8, 159:11, 159:16, 164:6
SENTENCING [1] - 218:2
SEPARATE [1] - 203:22
SEPARATELY [1] - 154:6
SERIES [1] - 70:8
SERVE [1] - 156:13
SERVED [4] - 179:19, 180:5, 180:9, 
180:10
SERVICES [2] - 96:10, 213:25
SERVICES [12] - 109:6, 146:6, 169:17, 
169:19, 169:20, 170:1, 170:4, 190:11, 
203:12, 203:20, 204:7, 208:17
SERVICES' [1] - 190:16
SESSION [1] - 68:6
SET [6] - 103:6, 103:13, 103:16, 201:12, 
208:14, 219:11
SEVERAL [4] - 155:17, 159:16, 199:4, 
204:5
SHALL [1] - 209:22
SHARE [1] - 176:19
SHEER [1] - 83:20
SHELL [1] - 208:14
SHINES [2] - 98:1, 98:15
SHIT [6] - 166:10, 166:11, 166:12, 
166:23, 166:24
SHORTLY [4] - 78:2, 140:4, 143:15, 
145:6
SHOW [22] - 71:2, 77:11, 77:17, 77:19, 
79:5, 103:21, 107:7, 111:6, 120:2, 
123:8, 126:6, 140:16, 142:5, 148:17, 
179:9, 182:5, 183:12, 203:15, 206:15, 
206:23, 214:15, 216:18
SHOWED [15] - 77:23, 100:2, 171:14, 
172:1, 174:7, 181:12, 181:14, 183:21, 
204:6, 207:21, 207:23, 216:14, 
244
216:15, 216:16, 216:17
SHOWING [8] - 79:18, 115:7, 122:3, 
141:1, 142:12, 179:7, 179:8, 184:16
SHOWN [9] - 76:23, 78:23, 139:21, 
140:3, 141:6, 143:19, 146:2, 147:16, 
184:19
SHOWS [6] - 79:2, 123:9, 159:25, 201:7, 
201:11, 214:25
SHOWUP [1] - 183:20
SIC [3] - 186:20, 203:9, 204:15
SIC) [1] - 98:2
SIDE [3] - 218:20, 221:1, 221:2
SIGN [2] - 164:11, 164:14
SIGNATURE [1] - 207:20
SIGNED [2] - 164:4, 186:7
SIGNERS [1] - 207:21
SIMPLY [2] - 71:1, 201:23
SINGLE [1] - 202:6
SIT [2] - 194:2, 218:3
SITE [1] - 154:10
SITUATION [1] - 219:2
SLIP [2] - 105:15, 105:16
SLOW [1] - 221:12
SLOWER [1] - 222:22
SMOOTH [1] - 221:13
SO.. [2] - 126:20, 172:16
SOCIAL [4] - 84:24, 152:18, 153:17, 
153:19
SOCIALS [2] - 159:12, 160:10
SOLELY [1] - 210:10
SOLVE [1] - 140:18
SOMEONE [7] - 109:9, 118:25, 182:12, 
182:25, 183:1, 189:20, 215:12
SOMETIMES [3] - 156:5, 193:25, 204:9
SOMEWHAT [1] - 208:22
SORRY [31] - 71:16, 75:15, 76:13, 
79:24, 88:9, 89:18, 91:4, 92:14, 98:4, 
98:12, 104:24, 107:19, 108:11, 
110:21, 115:17, 124:8, 139:15, 142:1, 
143:19, 143:23, 144:8, 162:23, 
176:11, 189:18, 195:21, 196:25, 
197:19, 197:22, 219:24, 222:12, 224:7
SORT [4] - 79:21, 87:7, 100:7, 198:8
SOUND [3] - 73:25, 86:18, 87:4
SOUNDS [5] - 103:11, 112:10, 132:10, 
176:22, 221:5
SOURCE [19] - 190:14, 192:1, 200:9, 
201:17, 201:20, 203:14, 203:24, 
204:11, 205:18, 206:4, 206:17, 208:8, 
212:25, 213:2, 214:17, 214:18, 
214:21, 215:1, 215:18
SOUTH [1] - 152:14
SPECIAL [1] - 154:9
SPECIFIC [9] - 81:18, 81:23, 125:3, 
138:3, 145:18, 211:9, 211:10, 212:6, 
214:18
SPECIFICALLY [12] - 109:25, 122:14, 
125:14, 133:19, 163:1, 177:12, 
193:10, 196:1, 211:21, 212:19, 
214:19, 216:23
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SPECIFICS [1] - 128:16
SPECIFIED [1] - 205:10
SPECULATING [1] - 145:17
SPENT [2] - 70:7, 213:12
SPOKEN [1] - 108:11
SPREAD [1] - 76:14
SPREADSHEET [11] - 76:24, 99:25, 
100:3, 100:6, 152:7, 153:15, 153:20, 
153:25, 154:14, 154:24, 158:17
SPREADSHEETS [3] - 94:5, 99:23, 
160:3
SPRING [1] - 131:8
SS [1] - 84:24
STAMP [1] - 145:22
STAMPED [4] - 115:7, 117:19, 143:7, 
144:20
STAMPING [1] - 145:24
STAND [1] - 219:15
STANDS [1] - 85:19
STAR [1] - 95:24
START [6] - 129:19, 138:17, 147:9, 
150:14, 195:20, 210:24
STARTED [5] - 70:8, 131:25, 138:22, 
147:10, 150:13
STARTING [1] - 201:5
STARTS [5] - 106:22, 113:25, 115:19, 
115:21, 221:15
STATE [1] - 126:10
STATE [1] - 191:10
STATEMENT [21] - 90:21, 91:6, 99:20, 
100:13, 109:6, 118:17, 126:6, 126:13, 
126:15, 127:2, 127:3, 127:4, 127:6, 
129:9, 129:11, 134:5, 201:10, 207:23, 
208:24, 212:23, 216:10
STATEMENTS [6] - 92:23, 110:24, 
111:7, 111:8, 129:13, 204:6
STATES [6] - 68:1, 68:4, 68:10, 68:16, 
68:25, 226:3
STATES [7] - 200:20, 202:15, 204:22, 
205:19, 206:9, 206:11, 209:13
STATUS [2] - 83:1, 160:1
STATUTORILY [1] - 205:10
STATUTORILY-SPECIFIED [1] - 205:10
STAY [1] - 165:4
STENOGRAPHICALLY [1] - 68:23
STEP [2] - 200:18, 200:23
STEPHEN [1] - 220:14
STEPS [1] - 125:6
STILL [4] - 126:24, 131:13, 133:16, 
218:2
STITES [29] - 72:1, 92:8, 95:8, 108:17, 
113:3, 118:2, 121:3, 123:22, 124:21, 
127:11, 128:6, 129:17, 134:12, 
134:19, 139:17, 140:14, 141:6, 
142:12, 157:9, 161:16, 168:16, 
172:19, 185:19, 188:14, 190:5, 
194:13, 195:5, 195:12, 198:16
STITES [1] - 69:3
STOP [5] - 151:14, 166:11, 182:10, 
182:13, 191:23
STOPPED [2] - 128:22, 174:16
STOPS [1] - 221:15
STREET [1] - 152:14
STRIKE [1] - 125:25
STRING [3] - 89:8, 138:11, 138:19
STRONG [2] - 215:14, 216:12
STRUCTURING [1] - 208:18
STUDYING [1] - 70:7
SUB [2] - 116:8, 157:21
SUBJECT [2] - 111:19, 177:20
SUBMITTED [12] - 92:18, 93:24, 94:9, 
94:11, 115:11, 124:3, 186:6, 186:24, 
188:17, 195:17, 196:11, 207:2
SUBMITTING [1] - 94:14
SUBPOENA [51] - 73:1, 73:4, 73:7, 
89:13, 96:25, 98:24, 104:6, 114:3, 
116:1, 156:13, 158:9, 159:1, 159:4, 
164:19, 169:6, 169:10, 169:16, 
169:19, 170:2, 170:4, 170:11, 171:2, 
173:9, 173:23, 173:24, 175:13, 
175:17, 175:21, 176:8, 177:15, 
177:20, 178:8, 178:18, 179:9, 179:11, 
179:15, 179:18, 179:20, 179:23, 
180:2, 180:3, 180:4, 180:7, 180:9, 
180:10, 180:11, 186:23, 187:3, 193:5, 
199:18
SUBPOENAED [5] - 72:21, 72:23, 
86:13, 169:2, 199:21
SUBSTANCE [2] - 123:4, 220:5
SUBSTANTIAL [2] - 206:5, 212:15
SUBSTANTIALLY [2] - 211:17, 212:14
SUBSTANTIVE [1] - 202:2
SUBSTANTIVELY [1] - 212:16
SUBTRACT [1] - 113:10
SUCCESS [2] - 95:25, 148:13
SUDDEN [2] - 138:17, 204:9
SUFFICIENCY [2] - 202:18, 209:9
SUFFICIENT [10] - 91:23, 94:24, 110:25, 
112:4, 173:6, 204:3, 208:2, 212:17, 
216:6, 216:25
SUGGEST [1] - 137:9
SUGGESTED [1] - 212:20
SUGGESTING [1] - 125:21
SUGGESTION [1] - 121:12
SUGGESTS [1] - 124:2
SUM [1] - 123:4
SUMMARY [2] - 82:24, 105:6
SUPPORT [1] - 77:3
SUPPOSED [3] - 170:1, 170:10, 213:12
SUPREME [1] - 206:10
SURPRISE [2] - 183:20, 212:1
SURPRISED [5] - 183:21, 183:23, 
211:18, 212:4, 221:7
SUSTAIN [2] - 70:23, 71:3
SUSTAINED [2] - 127:9, 129:15
SWIPE [2] - 155:7, 155:14
SWITCH [1] - 168:16
245
T
TABLET [1] - 169:24
TAL [1] - 68:14
TALKIN [1] - 166:10
TARDEAN83@GMAIL.COM [1] - 84:25
TARGET [1] - 131:6
TATTOOED [1] - 162:14
TAX [5] - 85:15, 86:1, 88:21, 90:5, 90:6
TAXES [2] - 88:18, 137:22
TAYLOR [2] - 185:10, 186:19
TED [3] - 162:5, 162:7, 162:11
TELDRIN [84] - 72:16, 73:1, 81:2, 82:10, 
82:13, 82:21, 83:23, 88:11, 100:19, 
101:1, 101:24, 106:7, 106:10, 106:12, 
106:16, 106:25, 109:1, 109:10, 
109:18, 113:25, 121:12, 121:24, 
127:15, 127:24, 128:15, 128:24, 
130:16, 131:3, 133:5, 136:4, 136:9, 
136:13, 136:21, 136:24, 137:2, 137:6, 
137:9, 137:14, 138:15, 138:23, 139:4, 
139:12, 143:24, 148:3, 148:12, 
148:24, 149:9, 149:15, 149:23, 150:3, 
151:18, 151:20, 152:12, 153:2, 
153:10, 154:2, 156:23, 157:18, 158:4, 
158:17, 159:3, 159:8, 159:17, 160:7, 
160:9, 161:10, 162:7, 162:19, 163:4, 
164:6, 164:8, 164:24, 165:10, 165:16, 
165:18, 166:13, 166:25, 167:3, 167:8, 
167:17, 167:25, 198:22, 200:6
TELDRIN [2] - 68:7, 68:17
TELDRIN'S [2] - 137:8, 149:9
TELDRIN23 [2] - 102:3, 117:9
TELDRIN23@ICLOUD [3] - 96:20, 
117:1, 121:8
TELDRIN23@ICLOUD.COM [11] - 73:5, 
97:10, 99:9, 102:2, 115:1, 118:4, 
125:12, 125:15, 125:22, 140:4, 150:10
TELDRIN_FOSTER@YAHOO.COM [1] 
- 73:2
TELE [1] - 162:3
TELEGRAM [9] - 160:13, 160:23, 161:1, 
161:16, 161:25, 162:3, 163:2, 163:21, 
164:1
TELETED [3] - 160:24, 162:2, 163:21
TEMPLATE [1] - 100:12
TEN [2] - 120:9, 189:21
TEN-MINUTE [2] - 120:9, 189:21
TERMS [1] - 133:22
TESTED [1] - 217:18
TESTIFIED [7] - 82:20, 102:24, 130:10, 
154:10, 195:19, 196:2, 206:21
TESTIFY [3] - 217:24, 218:18, 220:7
TESTIFYING [4] - 99:20, 169:16, 
195:16, 219:2
TESTIMONY [4] - 207:3, 207:5, 220:5, 
220:10
TEXT [11] - 137:21, 140:8, 145:6, 
177:21, 177:22, 186:12, 186:15, 
187:24, 189:14, 204:17, 215:11
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THE [144] - 1:2, 1:4, 1:6, 1:7, 1:8, 1:10, 
68:1, 68:10, 68:14, 68:17, 68:20, 70:2, 
70:5, 71:15, 75:4, 75:6, 89:19, 91:3, 
91:8, 91:10, 91:15, 91:20, 92:3, 93:4, 
93:7, 93:9, 93:12, 93:14, 94:25, 95:2, 
95:5, 97:7, 98:5, 98:8, 99:5, 104:25, 
105:2, 107:22, 107:24, 108:3, 108:7, 
108:11, 108:15, 110:17, 110:21, 
111:2, 111:16, 111:25, 112:7, 112:16, 
112:19, 112:22, 113:1, 114:10, 
116:15, 120:3, 120:16, 120:19, 
120:22, 120:24, 123:2, 123:6, 123:14, 
123:18, 124:5, 124:9, 124:18, 126:2, 
126:8, 126:17, 126:21, 127:5, 127:9, 
128:5, 128:7, 129:12, 129:15, 134:2, 
134:10, 134:13, 134:16, 140:18, 
140:21, 140:25, 142:3, 142:7, 144:9, 
145:1, 150:5, 157:25, 161:13, 162:17, 
162:20, 162:23, 163:5, 163:9, 163:15, 
163:17, 168:13, 172:11, 172:14, 
183:17, 189:18, 189:24, 190:1, 195:6, 
195:7, 200:13, 200:15, 200:18, 
200:21, 200:25, 201:4, 202:10, 
204:24, 207:8, 210:19, 210:23, 
216:20, 217:7, 217:13, 218:13, 
218:22, 219:5, 219:8, 219:11, 219:20, 
220:11, 220:22, 221:18, 222:7, 
222:17, 222:24, 223:3, 223:5, 223:9, 
223:14, 223:24, 224:6, 224:9, 224:19, 
225:10
THEMSELVES [3] - 203:13, 203:15, 
215:16
THEORIES [1] - 210:2
THEREFORE [4] - 201:18, 217:2, 220:6, 
223:14
THEREOF [1] - 126:7
THEY'VE [4] - 163:13, 215:11, 224:5, 
224:13
THINKING [1] - 135:21
THIRD [1] - 205:12
THOMAS [137] - 74:4, 74:8, 75:18, 78:1, 
80:25, 81:6, 81:17, 82:21, 83:24, 
84:14, 89:9, 89:25, 90:20, 92:9, 92:13, 
92:17, 93:20, 94:6, 95:9, 96:19, 96:20, 
97:10, 99:9, 100:16, 100:20, 102:15, 
104:8, 104:17, 105:9, 105:16, 107:4, 
107:13, 108:19, 110:6, 114:1, 117:10, 
118:6, 118:25, 119:8, 121:13, 122:7, 
122:15, 124:24, 125:1, 127:13, 
127:16, 127:20, 128:13, 128:24, 
129:5, 129:14, 130:13, 132:12, 133:3, 
134:25, 135:5, 135:9, 135:25, 136:12, 
136:21, 136:23, 136:24, 137:1, 137:2, 
137:4, 137:5, 137:12, 137:14, 137:15, 
137:19, 138:9, 138:23, 139:5, 139:9, 
139:22, 141:8, 141:20, 142:15, 143:2, 
143:12, 143:15, 143:24, 144:13, 
145:4, 145:7, 145:21, 146:4, 147:6, 
147:10, 147:21, 148:18, 149:2, 
149:14, 150:14, 153:2, 154:7, 156:22, 
157:5, 157:18, 158:4, 158:17, 158:22, 
158:25, 159:3, 159:8, 159:16, 160:9, 
160:23, 161:19, 163:22, 164:3, 164:5, 
164:12, 165:13, 165:23, 166:2, 166:8, 
166:22, 167:1, 167:17, 167:25, 168:9, 
173:12, 188:2, 189:8, 189:9, 190:23, 
192:12, 196:7, 196:19, 200:9, 201:13, 
201:24, 206:25, 207:4, 216:10
THOMAS'S [19] - 72:7, 72:23, 74:18, 
76:21, 77:9, 79:19, 94:17, 119:7, 
119:17, 121:16, 122:15, 130:20, 
131:17, 132:19, 136:2, 160:13, 161:1, 
161:4, 173:16
THOROUGHLY [1] - 126:11
THOUSAND [1] - 164:15
THREE [5] - 70:20, 82:7, 185:13, 
203:22, 217:10
THREE-MONTH [1] - 185:13
THROUGHOUT [2] - 101:24, 167:16
THURSDAY [3] - 138:25, 139:1, 160:12
TICKET [1] - 155:15
TIE [1] - 101:25
TIMELINE [2] - 184:22, 185:2
TIMING [1] - 196:20
TIP [3] - 155:11, 155:15
TIRE [2] - 96:8, 130:8
TITLE [1] - 90:13
TO [2] - 1:5, 1:9
TO-DO [1] - 223:25
TODAY [8] - 113:6, 114:15, 114:18, 
116:19, 139:23, 179:14, 180:6, 180:16
TOGETHER [6] - 127:13, 127:16, 128:8, 
128:12, 159:1, 216:18
TOMORROW [12] - 207:12, 217:22, 
219:12, 220:17, 220:19, 220:20, 
221:12, 222:1, 222:4, 222:5, 222:10, 
223:6
TONIGHT [1] - 218:19
TOOK [1] - 72:2
TOP [12] - 81:9, 85:14, 95:12, 113:16, 
124:2, 152:24, 156:22, 158:4, 159:8, 
163:24, 191:24, 198:10
TOTAL [2] - 81:13, 218:19
TOTALLY [1] - 207:25
TOWARDS [1] - 84:4
TRACE [1] - 173:25
TRADING [1] - 98:1
TRAILING [1] - 162:24
TRANSACTION [23] - 155:9, 170:18, 
191:22, 201:16, 205:7, 205:9, 205:17, 
206:6, 208:18, 209:1, 209:2, 209:5, 
209:6, 211:6, 211:8, 211:9, 211:10, 
211:12, 211:22, 211:24, 212:7, 213:1, 
216:4
TRANSACTIONS [11] - 154:24, 155:2, 
155:5, 155:17, 156:2, 156:3, 156:4, 
156:10, 169:21, 169:25, 215:15
TRANSCRIPT [5] - 1:3, 1:6, 1:8, 1:9, 
68:9
TRANSCRIPT [1] - 226:7
246
TRANSCRIPTS [1] - 1:3
TRANSFER [10] - 188:15, 188:18, 
188:23, 189:9, 192:3, 210:15, 212:11, 
214:7, 214:8
TRANSFERRED [2] - 80:20, 81:7
TRANSPORTATION [2] - 97:13, 146:6
TRAVEL [18] - 146:12, 170:5, 170:10, 
170:15, 170:22, 170:23, 174:1, 
185:23, 185:25, 186:21, 187:10, 
203:25, 206:19, 208:15, 213:17, 
213:23, 215:3, 215:7
TRAVELED [1] - 78:1
TRIAL [14] - 180:18, 206:22, 207:19, 
209:19, 210:14, 211:14, 211:19, 
212:2, 212:10, 213:17, 213:20, 
219:23, 220:24, 221:14
TRIAL [1] - 68:9
TRICKED [1] - 135:20
TRIED [3] - 208:19, 209:25, 210:10
TRIER [1] - 217:1
TRIP [1] - 78:8
TROUBLE [1] - 98:6
TRUCKING [3] - 97:12, 97:18, 97:19
TRUE [10] - 74:22, 89:12, 90:21, 104:15, 
107:15, 111:22, 115:10, 117:21, 
132:21, 226:6
TRUST [1] - 167:3
TRUST [2] - 97:21, 97:23
TRUSTWORTHINESS [4] - 93:1, 111:1, 
111:14, 112:5
TRUTH [9] - 71:1, 91:12, 111:20, 112:1, 
112:3, 123:8, 126:13, 127:7, 129:10
TRUTHFUL [3] - 70:9, 70:10, 70:11
TRUTHFULNESS [1] - 70:21
TRY [9] - 92:3, 93:11, 159:4, 175:5, 
183:2, 190:15, 193:7, 193:14
TRYING [10] - 93:15, 119:20, 125:25, 
126:23, 127:23, 166:15, 166:23, 
191:3, 203:6, 221:13
TURN [4] - 105:14, 112:12, 113:14, 
115:13
TURNED [2] - 71:17, 173:20
TWIST [1] - 221:9
TWO [29] - 73:24, 104:13, 107:16, 
121:17, 132:11, 136:25, 163:13, 
166:6, 172:4, 179:24, 180:3, 180:14, 
184:16, 185:12, 186:1, 190:10, 
191:14, 191:16, 194:16, 203:11, 
204:19, 205:9, 206:14, 208:1, 208:7, 
208:9, 208:20, 212:19
TWO-PAGE [1] - 194:16
TY [3] - 97:12, 97:18, 97:19
TYPE [10] - 110:22, 111:18, 156:4, 
187:24, 188:21, 190:13, 211:6, 211:9, 
212:6, 224:22
TYPED [1] - 102:9
TYPES [2] - 188:7, 215:9
TYPING [1] - 120:6
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ULTIMATELY [1] - 80:24
UNDER [6] - 91:18, 91:21, 93:4, 110:23, 
140:14, 205:5
UNDER [6] - 98:2, 98:3, 98:10, 117:12, 
144:3, 144:16
UNDERLYING [1] - 209:1
UNDERSTOOD [1] - 212:9
UNEASY [1] - 182:16
UNFAIRLY [1] - 211:18
UNITED [7] - 200:20, 202:15, 204:22, 
205:19, 206:8, 206:11, 209:12
UNITED [6] - 68:1, 68:4, 68:10, 68:16, 
68:25, 226:3
UNIVERSE [1] - 197:15
UNLAWFUL [3] - 201:20, 205:10, 
215:15
UNLESS [4] - 126:19, 209:24, 218:10, 
219:1
UNLIMITED [2] - 99:11, 99:17
UNREDACTED [1] - 141:23
UNRELATED [2] - 207:25, 208:1
UNRESOLVED [1] - 223:21
UNSTAMPED [4] - 142:18, 143:6, 
144:15, 144:19
UP [54] - 70:24, 87:9, 87:13, 88:9, 88:15, 
103:6, 103:13, 103:16, 107:22, 
108:11, 110:17, 111:4, 111:17, 
111:21, 112:10, 112:14, 139:18, 
143:1, 153:14, 153:19, 153:24, 158:4, 
160:2, 162:23, 173:20, 174:7, 174:21, 
178:23, 181:12, 181:14, 182:5, 
183:12, 183:21, 184:16, 184:21, 
185:16, 185:24, 191:6, 193:7, 193:11, 
193:14, 194:6, 194:10, 194:14, 
201:12, 208:14, 213:22, 214:23, 
216:16, 217:14, 218:6, 219:11, 
219:14, 220:10
UPSTAIRS [1] - 73:19
URGENT [1] - 217:19
US [5] - 178:21, 194:3, 206:9, 206:10, 
209:15
USC [1] - 205:5
USER [1] - 136:13
UTC [5] - 113:9, 113:10, 139:25, 148:24, 
153:7
UTILITIES [2] - 79:14, 79:16
UTWUAN [1] - 160:5
V
VALUABLE [1] - 173:16
VARIANCE [8] - 209:18, 211:3, 211:14, 
211:16, 212:4, 212:14, 216:22
VARIOUS [7] - 92:17, 93:20, 93:21, 
110:24, 147:5, 157:4, 224:11
VEGAS [4] - 77:15, 77:24, 78:2, 78:13
VERDICT [2] - 202:25, 212:18
VERSION [1] - 113:17
VERSIONS [2] - 115:7, 147:2
VERSUS [1] - 124:10
VIA [2] - 149:15, 164:6
VIEW [1] - 221:17
VIEWED [1] - 216:24
VIEWS [1] - 202:22
VIOLATES [1] - 210:9
VISIT [4] - 174:11, 174:13, 174:14, 
185:7
VISITED [1] - 185:13
VOLUME [1] - 68:6
VS [2] - 206:8, 209:12
VS [1] - 68:5
W
W-2 [1] - 86:18
W-4 [5] - 158:8, 164:4, 164:5, 164:11, 
164:14
W-4S [1] - 158:12
WAITING [3] - 108:13, 120:3, 183:18
WALK [1] - 203:9
WALK-AND-TALK [1] - 203:9
WALKING [1] - 209:3
WANTS [2] - 218:18, 219:1
WAR [1] - 224:20
WARNED [1] - 128:24
WARRANT [21] - 74:18, 74:24, 76:6, 
78:2, 80:1, 85:3, 85:6, 168:23, 169:9, 
169:13, 172:20, 172:23, 173:1, 173:7, 
173:13, 173:14, 173:18, 174:3, 
186:25, 187:2, 199:15
WARRANTS [4] - 73:24, 79:23, 199:23, 
211:16
WATCH [4] - 76:19, 78:25, 79:1, 218:5
WEAPONS [2] - 184:18, 184:19
WEBSTER [32] - 70:13, 70:16, 70:22, 
70:25, 71:4, 71:22, 107:24, 111:2, 
112:9, 116:10, 120:3, 120:11, 120:25, 
123:2, 123:19, 124:5, 126:3, 126:17, 
148:17, 150:17, 158:24, 162:17, 
163:15, 195:7, 216:8, 217:4, 220:11, 
221:5, 222:2, 222:18, 222:20, 222:24
WEBSTER [127] - 68:18, 71:24, 71:25, 
75:1, 75:7, 75:8, 82:17, 82:19, 83:13, 
83:15, 84:5, 84:7, 85:11, 85:13, 86:7, 
86:8, 87:12, 88:6, 88:10, 88:15, 88:17, 
89:15, 89:20, 90:24, 91:4, 91:6, 91:9, 
91:14, 91:17, 91:21, 92:6, 92:7, 92:22, 
93:6, 93:8, 93:13, 93:17, 93:18, 94:22, 
95:3, 95:6, 96:23, 96:24, 97:3, 97:8, 
98:7, 98:9, 99:1, 99:6, 99:7, 103:24, 
104:1, 104:19, 104:24, 105:3, 105:4, 
107:18, 107:23, 107:25, 108:6, 
108:16, 109:3, 109:5, 110:14, 111:4, 
112:14, 112:18, 113:2, 114:6, 114:11, 
114:12, 114:17, 116:8, 116:12, 
116:16, 117:24, 118:1, 120:12, 121:1, 
121:2, 122:22, 123:5, 123:7, 123:20, 
123:21, 124:8, 124:16, 124:19, 
247
124:20, 126:4, 126:18, 126:25, 
127:10, 128:10, 129:9, 129:16, 134:1, 
134:3, 134:11, 141:25, 144:7, 144:24, 
150:2, 157:24, 161:8, 162:18, 162:21, 
162:25, 163:16, 172:15, 195:8, 
195:11, 197:18, 197:22, 198:1, 
198:10, 198:13, 200:12, 200:14, 
201:2, 201:5, 217:5, 217:10, 219:7, 
220:13, 223:4, 224:4
WEBSTER)..............195 [1] - 69:5
WEDNESDAY [2] - 139:1, 222:6
WEEK [1] - 148:2
WHATSAPP [55] - 82:20, 88:12, 92:8, 
100:17, 101:7, 101:15, 101:23, 
101:25, 102:4, 110:5, 111:9, 119:8, 
124:24, 131:20, 132:14, 132:16, 
132:17, 132:20, 135:7, 135:16, 136:9, 
136:20, 136:24, 137:3, 137:14, 
137:15, 137:18, 138:8, 138:16, 
138:17, 138:19, 138:23, 139:3, 139:4, 
143:1, 145:6, 149:15, 153:3, 156:22, 
157:17, 164:6, 167:24, 168:4, 186:12, 
186:15, 187:23, 189:14, 196:19, 
197:1, 202:3, 202:5, 202:7, 204:17, 
216:15
WHATSAPPS [1] - 138:11
WHATSOEVER [1] - 207:5
WHITE [1] - 148:25
WHOLE [1] - 173:13
WIDE [2] - 71:10, 208:12
WILEY [4] - 217:16, 217:17, 217:24, 
218:5
WILEY'S [1] - 218:10
WILL [1] - 1:4
WILLING [1] - 223:21
WIRE [15] - 188:15, 188:22, 189:9, 
204:12, 205:11, 208:25, 209:2, 209:5, 
209:6, 210:13, 210:15, 212:11, 214:7
WITH [1] - 1:10
WITHDRAW [1] - 112:20
WITHDRAWALS [3] - 203:19, 203:23, 
204:2
WITHDRAWING [1] - 78:5
WITHDRAWN [2] - 108:4, 108:8
WITHHOLDING [1] - 158:8
WITNESS [3] - 128:7, 183:17, 195:6
WITNESS [1] - 141:5
WITNESS [11] - 69:2, 112:12, 128:3, 
150:3, 179:7, 200:19, 202:6, 207:6, 
216:8, 217:15, 222:2
WITNESS'S [2] - 120:4, 219:1
WITNESSES [6] - 130:23, 217:8, 
217:10, 218:14, 220:25, 222:19
WORD [3] - 111:14, 174:21, 213:8
WORDS [1] - 215:21
WORKS [1] - 86:15
WORRY [1] - 222:9
WORTH [2] - 82:8, 170:17
WRITE [1] - 153:10
WRITTEN [1] - 101:9
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Y
Y'ALL [7] - 71:15, 120:24, 190:1, 
200:25, 220:22, 221:3, 221:19
YAHOO [12] - 102:2, 115:4, 117:4, 
125:13, 136:4, 142:24, 143:2, 143:6, 
143:11, 144:13, 144:18, 145:4
YEAR [1] - 132:13
YEARS [2] - 121:17, 163:14
YOU [2] - 1:5, 1:8
Z
ZERO [2] - 83:7, 83:17
ZONE [2] - 154:17, 154:22
ZONE [3] - 154:23, 154:25
ZOOM [3] - 218:5, 218:11, 219:12
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