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Exhibit 2 — USA v. Sary - Ahmed M Sary (Dkt. 118.2)
Filed September 19, 2025 in USA v. Sary - Ahmed M Sary; one of 75 filings from this case.
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U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland · No. 1:23-cr-00344-RDB · Doc. 118-2 · 2025-09-19 · Docket on CourtListener
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IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF MARYLAND
NORTHERN DIVISION
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, )
)
Plaintiff, )
vs. )
) CRIMINAL NO.:
AHMED M. SARY, ) 1:23-cr-00344-RDB
)
Defendant. )
__________________________________)
Baltimore, Maryland
June 25, 2024
11:00 a.m.
TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
SENTENCING HEARING
BEFORE THE HONORABLE RICHARD D. BENNETT
Courtroom 5D
For the Government:
PAUL A. RILEY, Esquire
Office of the United States Attorney
36 South Charles Street, 4th Floor
Baltimore, MD 21201
For the Defendant:
JULIE M. REAMY, Esquire
Julie M. Reamy, Attorney At Law, LLC
1 Olympic Place, Suite 900
Towson, MD 21204
Also Present: Nicole Wonneman, Nikki Martin, U.S. Probation
Special Agent Dan Parker, FBI
(Computer-aided transcription of stenotype notes)
Patricia G. Mitchell, RMR, CRR Federal Official Court Reporter
101 W. Lombard Street, Fourth Floor
Baltimore, MD 21201
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P R O C E E D I N G S
(11:10 a.m.)
THE COURT: Good morning, everyone. Those in the far
back may be seated. This is calling the case of United States
versus Ahmed Sary, Criminal Number RDB-23-0344. The defendant
pled guilty to a one-count criminal information before me on
October 18th of last year, and we are here to proceed with
sentencing here today.
I would note that the standing orders of this court have
previously required that masks be born in all public areas of
the courthouse. That is no longer the case. It is within the
discretion of the presiding judge in particular courtrooms as
to whether or not masks will be worn. My policy is still in
the aftermath of the COVID-19 pandemic that masks will be worn
in my courtroom if people have not been fully vaccinated, so I
do inquire of the vaccination status of the parties before me.
And Mr. Carrick, the deputy courtroom clerk, can hand out masks
to those individuals here who have not been vaccinated.
So with that, if counsel would identify themselves for the
record, please.
MR. RILEY: Good morning, Your Honor. Assistant U.S.
Attorney Paul Riley on behalf of the Government. With me at
counsel table is Special Agent Dan Parker of the FBI. We are
both vaccinated and boosted, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yes, Mr. Riley. Nice to see you. And,
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Agent Parker, nice to see you again.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: You're welcome as always. You-all both
may be seated. On behalf of the defendant?
MS. REAMY: Good morning, Your Honor. For the
record, my name is Julie Reamy. I represent Ahmed Sary. I am
fully vaccinated, and my understanding is Mr. Sary is as
well.
THE COURT: Yes, Ms. Reamy. Nice to see you as
always. Welcome back. You're privately retained, I believe;
is that correct?
MS. REAMY: Yes.
THE COURT: Always nice to have you here. Good
morning to you, Mr. Sary. Sir, you have been fully vaccinated?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: All right. With that, thank you very
much.
We have with us Nicole Wonneman, the U.S. probation
officer. She is replacing Jessica Jackson who is unable to be
here today. Ms. Wonneman, nice to see you, and thank you for
filling in. You have been vaccinated; is that correct?
PROBATION OFFICER: That's correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: It's nice to have you and thank you. You
may be seated as well, Ms. Wonneman.
I want to welcome all of those in attendance here today.
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Any of the members in the gallery who have not been vaccinated?
I'm pleased to note that everyone appears to have been
vaccinated; no one has indicated otherwise.
Ms. Reamy, I have read some of the letters that were
submitted on behalf of Mr. Sary during these proceedings. I
know I received letters from his wife and from both of his sons
and from Linda Derezinski, a good friend, and another, Waiel
Fetouha. Also another one of the letters I received was from
Attorney Leonard Redmond of Baltimore. The record will reflect
he and I were classmates at the University of Maryland Law
School, and I hold Mr. Redmond in high regard and I have read
his letter.
Mr. Riley, you have received copies of those letters as
well?
MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you. With that, I gather the
defendant's wife and sons are here? Is that correct?
MS. REAMY: That's correct --
THE COURT: Thank you, I've read your letters. While
no one has been indicated as being a witness here, Mr. Riley,
you have no objection if anybody wants to speak, do you?
MR. RILEY: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Ms. Reamy, if anybody else wants to come
forward and speak --
MS. REAMY: We do intend to have brief presentations,
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and I do apologize for not letting the Court know.
THE COURT: That's quite all right, quite all right.
Anyone here is welcome to come forward and speak if they so
desire. The Government appropriately doesn't have any
objection.
I also want to clarify, Mr. Riley, that there has been a
notice to the victims of this conspiracy to commit wire fraud
with respect to false loan applications during the pandemic in
the payment protection plan and the fraud on the government
program --
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: There has been notice to victims?
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Although the defendant was charged in a
criminal complaint which will be dismissed later in these
proceedings, there was no underlying indictment. It was a
criminal information.
MR. RILEY: That's absolutely right, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Essentially the two co-defendants in this
case, Lawrence Walker and Reginald Hopkins, also pled guilty
before me and have already been sentenced I believe, correct?
You handled those cases as well.
MR. RILEY: That's right, Your Honor. As the
Government noted in our sentencing submission, there is another
pending case; that's the Joseph Gillespie matter. That case is
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pending trial before Your Honor. He has not pled guilty.
THE COURT: Yes, what date is that? I'm sorry.
There were a total of four of them. Two have pled guilty but
Mr. Sary is the third, and he is the third to be sentenced.
And Mr. Gillespie is due to go to trial when? I'm sorry, I
overlooked --
MR. RILEY: I apologize, Your Honor. I believe it's
this summer, fall.
THE COURT: That's all right. There is a fourth
person.
MR. RILEY: I'll say, Your Honor, that the parties
are not anticipating a trial in that matter, but it is set for
trial.
THE COURT: That's fine, whatever. Just keep
Ms. Foster notified.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Riley, thank you very
much. With that, we are ready to proceed.
I note that there is one agreement here with respect to
the presentence investigation report here, and that is that the
Government agrees with the defense counsel that I think
paragraph 62, Ms. Wonneman, will need to be amended. In light
of the recent amendments to § 4C1.1 of the advisory guidelines,
the defendant was entitled to a minus two adjustment, correct,
Mr. Riley?
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MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Correct, Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: Yes.
THE COURT: We'll be going over that in a minute.
There will be an adjustment on the total offense level which
will be an adjustment on the advisory guideline range.
Mr. Sary, I would note, sir, that when you pled guilty
before me last October, you did so pursuant to a specific rule
of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure; specifically Rule
11(c)(1)(C) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure provides
that a criminal defendant may agree upon a specific sentence or
a range of sentence. In paragraph 10 of your plea agreement
letter, which was introduced as Government's Exhibit 1 back on
October 18th, that plea agreement specifically provided that
you and the Government agreed the appropriate range of sentence
here is 60 months to 114 months or essentially five years to
nine and a half years. Do you understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: And members of your family understand
that, meaning that if I were inclined to sentence you to one
day more than 114 months or one day more than nine and a half
years in prison, you could withdraw your guilty plea. Do you
understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: By the same token, that rule provides
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that if I were inclined to sentence you to one day less than 60
months, one day less than five years in prison, the Government
could withdraw from the plea agreement.
Is that correct, Ms. Reamy, from your point of view?
MS. REAMY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: You understand that, Mr. Sary?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Correct, Mr. Riley?
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: So everyone understands here, we're
dealing with a range of sentence here in a matter in which
there will clearly be a federal prison sentence. The question
will be how long will that be, how long a sentence will that
be.
I want to verify that you have had an opportunity to
review the presentence report prepared by Ms. Jessica Jackson
with your attorney, Ms. Reamy; is that correct?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Approximately how many times have you
reviewed it with her?
THE DEFENDANT: Like two times.
THE COURT: I'm sorry? Pull that microphone over a
little over farther.
THE DEFENDANT: Two times, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Are you satisfied you've had a sufficient
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amount of time to go over it with her?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes.
THE COURT: The only correction or objection by the
Government, Mr. Riley, is with respect to that paragraph as to
a two-level downward adjustment under 4C1.1 of the advisory
guidelines, correct?
MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Correct from your point of view,
Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: Yes, there is some additional information
that should have come to the Court in the last couple of days
from Ms. Jackson. I don't know if the Court received
anything.
THE COURT: Yes, I received a note from Ms. Jackson
with respect to the fact that Mr. Sary has been on release by
earlier orders, I think, of Judge Hurson and Judge Boardman of
this court but that perhaps a mental health provision will be
added for a special condition of his continued release.
Voluntary surrender is anticipated. I have that communication
with Ms. Jackson. Is there anything else, Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: There is. I think I can address it --
THE COURT: -- okay, later on. There are no errors
or corrections other than the one correction we're going to
make here?
MS. REAMY: Correct.
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THE COURT: With that, let me just go over the
process here today. I know I went over this with you back in
October, Mr. Sary, but to make sure your family members
understand as well. There are -- by the way, I would also note
that with respect to the plea agreement and the range of
sentence, there is a waiver of appeal by both you and the
Government as to any sentence within that range. Do you
understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: I also would note that that plea
agreement provided for specific forfeiture in addition to the
restitution. An order of forfeiture was filed last week, June
20th, last Thursday. A preliminary order of forfeiture, a
forfeiture money judgment in the amount of $3,627,489.22. That
is paper no. 82. That judgment has been entered and is
consistent with the plea agreement. Do you understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Understand, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Correct from the point of view of the
Government, Mr. Riley?
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: So that has already been done here.
So with that, let me just go over the process here in
federal court with respect to sentencing. This is true of all
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federal courts in the United States, not state courts. There
are two key opinions of the United States Supreme Court that
outline the process for sentencing in federal court.
First of all, in January of 2005 and now over 19 years
ago, the Supreme Court issued its opinion in United States v.
Booker in which the Supreme Court of the United States upheld
the constitutionality of the Federal Sentencing Guidelines
which were referenced, I believe, in paragraph 5 of your plea
agreement letter and are referenced in the presentence
investigation report prepared by the U.S. Probation Office.
But the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of those
guidelines with the deletion of two particular sections of the
guidelines which had previously rendered the guidelines
mandatory.
The Supreme Court specifically noted that with the
deletion of those mandatory provisions, the balance of the
Federal Sentencing Guidelines was constitutional, but as a
result, henceforth the Federal Sentencing Guidelines were
rendered effectively advisory and were no longer mandatory and
were to be applied in an advisory context, meaning that federal
judges, while not bound to apply those guidelines, must still
consult them and take them into account when imposing the
sentence, subject to review by courts of appeals for
unreasonableness. Here there is a waiver of any appeal to the
Court of Appeals of the Fourth Circuit above this court. But
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that is the process here.
And other factors are to be considered as well under 18
United States Code, § 3553(a). They include your personal
history and characteristics, the nature and circumstances of
this offense, the sentences imposed upon similarly-situated
individuals which means we're going to be addressing the
sentences which were imposed upon Mr. Walker and Mr. Hopkins
previously in this matter. All those factors are taken into
consideration by me as well.
I said there were two key opinions of the Supreme Court in
this matter. The second of those two opinions is the case of
Gall v. the United States decided about three years after the
Booker case in which the Supreme Court specifically noted that
federal judges should not presume that the guideline range is
reasonable, but it is a starting point in a multistep process
pursuant to which first there's a calculation of the guideline
range which will be adjusting here this morning in a few
minutes. And then there's a consideration of other factors
apart from the guidelines, the goal being to impose a sentence
which is sufficient, but not greater than necessary, to achieve
the goals of sentencing. If this sentence is outside of the
guideline range, I indicate my reasons for it being so.
Here the matter of the guideline range is correlated with
the agreed range of your sentence which will definitely be 60
to 114 months, somewhere in that range, but that overlaps a
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guideline range which would ordinarily call for a range of 108
to 135 months which essentially translates out to some nine
years to almost 12 years. That would be the guideline range.
But we'll be going over that in a moment.
A little bit of housekeeping I still must continue to do
is, first of all, in looking at the presentence investigation
report, paragraph 80 lists medications that you're taking here.
Without going into too much detail, the medications which
you're taking listed in paragraph 80 relate to acid reflux,
heart muscle cramps and gastroesophageal reflux, so you do take
certain medications each day. Did you take those medications
today?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: And you take them every day?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Is that having any negative effect upon
you here today, the medication?
THE DEFENDANT: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Ms. Reamy, are you satisfied that your
client is competent to proceed with sentencing here today?
MS. REAMY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: The other thing I want to go over with
you are the procedures required by the PROTECT Act of 2003
which is a law that was passed by the U.S. Congress over 20
years ago obviously. And among the many provisions of the
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PROTECT Act, there are also provisions that apply to federal
courts when imposing sentences in federal criminal cases.
Specifically the PROTECT Act requires that the chief judge of
each federal court in the United States -- again, this applies
to federal courts, not state courts. The chief judge of each
federal court in the United States must ensure that within 30
days of the imposition of sentence, that certain information
goes over to the U.S. Sentencing Commission in Washington.
Those documents that are to be sent over include the
Judgment and Commitment Order which I'll be preparing
immediately after these proceedings with the assistance of
Mr. Carrick, the deputy clerk of court; the Statement of
Reasons for the sentence imposed which shall include the reason
for any departures from the otherwise applicable guideline
range; a copy of the plea agreement in the case; ordinarily an
indictment -- in your case, a criminal information; the
presentence report and any other information the Sentencing
Commission finds appropriate.
The chief judge of this court issued an administrative
order back over 20 years ago directing Ms. Wonneman's office,
the U.S. Probation Office, to forward these items to the U.S.
Sentencing Commission in Washington after each sentencing here
in this court. That means that some of these documents are
subject to review, Mr. Sary, by other public officials in
Washington or perhaps even by members of the public.
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For a long period of time, it has been the policy of this
court that there was an administrative order dating back to
2004 relating to the section of the presentence report marked
"defendant characteristics," and that is part C of your
presentence report which begins in paragraph 74 on page 13.
That section, going from paragraph 74 on page 13 to paragraph
90 on page 17 of this report, is subject to administrative
seal. I have reviewed that information, that confidential
family information. Another judge of this court could review
it if he or she so chose -- none have -- and members of the
U.S. Sentencing Commission in Washington can review it. No one
else is permitted to see it absent further order of this court.
Do you understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: The president of the United States
couldn't ask for it and disclose it publicly without there
being an order of this court. Do you understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: To all other extent, the requirements of
the PROTECT Act are still mandated and to be complied with.
I said that the first step here is a calculation of the
advisory guideline range, and there is an agreed adjustment
here with respect to that calculation. In light of recent
amendments to the advisory guidelines and policies set forth by
the U.S. Sentencing Commission, there is a category under 4C1.1
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essentially noting that you get some credit for your lack of
any kind of criminal history essentially.
That's a fair summary, is it not, Mr. Riley?
MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: In a nutshell, that's what it amounts to.
You had not been given credit for that, but now there have been
amendments so that you're to be given credit for it. That
means that essentially looking at paragraph 62 of the
presentence report -- Ms. Wonneman, if you'll make these
calculations, there is a downward adjustment of minus two under
§ 4C1.1. That results in an adjusted offense level of 34.
There is a two-level downward adjustment further because
of your acceptance of responsibility, and the Government is now
moving for a third level, correct?
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: -- under § 3E1.1 of the advisory
guidelines so the total offense level of paragraph 65,
Ms. Wonneman, will be 31, not 33.
Furthermore, that means that there is an adjustment to
paragraph 92 of the presentence report so that the guideline
range will be based upon a total offense level of 31 and a
Criminal History Category of I as the defendant has no criminal
history. The guideline range for imprisonment would be 108
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months to 135 months, if you'll make that change as well.
Then paragraph 101 for this offense level in terms of a
fine range, no fine is going to be assessed here because of the
massive amounts of restitution that are going to be ordered.
But in terms of a housekeeping matter, the fine range here with
a total offense level of 31 would change from 35,000 to
250,000, Ms. Wonneman, to 30,000 -- I think it was a typo
there. Ordinarily the range would have been 35,000 to 350,000.
Paragraph 101 should be changed so it reads the fine range is
30,000 to 300,000. If you'll make that change as well. Again,
there isn't going to be a fine assessed here.
Mr. Carrick, if you'll note that on the Judgment and
Commitment Order in chapter 4, there were some changes we've
made in this so that there is no -- you have absolutely no
criminal history of any kind, so you're in the lowest level; I
being the lowest, VI being the highest. There's a total
offense level of 31.
There are no other adjustments to be raised from the point
of view of the Government, are there, Mr. Riley?
MR. RILEY: No other adjustments, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Again, I'll hear from you in a minute,
Ms. Reamy, on other considerations but in terms of the
presentence report itself, there are no other adjustments, are
there?
MS. REAMY: Correct, Your Honor.
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THE COURT: So with that, we made that first step, as
I mentioned, on the advisory guideline analysis. There is a
range of 108 to 135 months, but the reality is that the range
here is 60 to 114 months for reasons authorized by the
guidelines, Mr. Carrick, with respect to a binding plea
agreement.
So there are no other disputed matters to be addressed
here. With that, you may be seated for a minute, Mr. Sary.
I'll first hear from the Government and from Mr. Riley. He'll
speak on behalf of the Government, speak on allocution. Then
I'll hear from Ms. Reamy and recognize her for remarks. Then
I'll give you an opportunity to speak on your own behalf,
Mr. Sary, as well as any other persons who want to come forward
during allocution.
So, Mr. Riley, I'll be glad to hear from you. I think the
first step here is the Government is now moving to dismiss the
original criminal complaint that was filed, correct?
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: That will be dismissed. The defendant
pled guilty to the one-count criminal information. There was
no indictment in this case.
So with that, I'll be glad to hear from you. I've read
your sentencing memorandum, paper no. 76, that was filed last
week on June 18th, all of which relates to the April 2020 to
January 2022 time period during the fraud on the government and
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financial institutions with respect to the Paycheck Protection
Program that was implemented in response to the COVID-19
pandemic. Mr. Riley.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor. Thank you, Your Honor.
Your Honor, the Government would ask this Court to impose
a 114-month sentence. That's the top end of the parties'
agreed-upon sentencing C-plea range. It's a sentence at
essentially the low end of the advisory sentencing guideline
range in this case.
I want to talk briefly about a couple of 3553(a) factors
that are particularly germane here, Your Honor. I want to
start off with the nature and circumstances of the offense,
Your Honor. There's no question, Your Honor, that this
defendant's offense is serious. In the wake of the COVID-19
pandemic when the world was shut down, when businesses were
suffering, where employees were suffering, when real businesses
were trying to make ends meet, this defendant engaged in a
massive scheme to defraud the Small Business Administration of
the United States, as well as numerous financial institutions,
as Your Honor noted. This defendant was responsible for the
disbursement of at least 85 fraudulent Paycheck Protection
Program loans and nearly $15 million in actual losses
associated with those loans. And he was responsible for at
least 57 fraudulent Economic Injury Disaster Loans or EIDLs.
What we have, Your Honor, at the outset is more than $17.9
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million in actual losses to the government as well as financial
institutions. Actual losses. We're not even getting into
intended losses.
Your Honor, this defendant -- essentially two types, there
was two types of conduct by this defendant in connection with
this scheme. He obtained roughly a million dollars, over
$900,000 in fraudulent PPP and EIDL funds for his own purported
businesses, and then he engaged in a separate scheme. This was
the PPP/EIDL kickback scheme. So this defendant essentially
was the person who prepared, who packaged numerous other
fraudulent Paycheck Protection Program and EIDL loans for other
co-conspirators, borrowers and so on.
THE COURT: Including Mr. Walker and Mr. Hopkins,
right?
MR. RILEY: Including Mr. Hopkins, Mr. Walker, I
mentioned the allegations against Mr. Gillespie. There is
another defendant too; I neglected to mention him earlier, Your
Honor. Mr. Qureshi, that case was before Your Honor,
transferred to Judge Bredar.
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. RILEY: He has since pled guilty again and he is
pending sentencing.
So there are numerous, numerous individuals whom this
defendant facilitated fraudulent loans for. It was a
conspiracy that touched various parts of the United States that
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involved numerous fraudulent purported businesses that may have
existed only on paper, if at all. In exchange for preparing,
submitting these fraudulent PPP, these fraudulent EIDL
applications, this defendant received a cut. He received a
slice of the fraudulent loan amount. Sometimes up to 30
percent of the loan amount, typically 20 to 30 percent. As a
result of this kickback scheme, this commission, to put it
nicely, Your Honor, this defendant received millions and
millions of dollars in fees of fraud funds.
So, Your Honor, I think it's important to consider that
this defendant is essentially the mastermind of this scheme.
He was the one submitting these applications. He was the one
who was coordinating with another co-conspirator to obtain
fraudulent IRS forms that were submitted with these fraudulent
PPP applications. He was the one who was creating fraudulent
bank statements that were submitted with another of these
applications. And he was the one, Your Honor, that was filling
out these applications that were completely full of lies about
these purported businesses, not tethered to reality, to obtain
these fraudulent funds.
THE COURT: Mr. Riley --
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: -- I note in the presentence report, going
through this in preparation for this sentencing -- what
happened to all the money? I'm looking at his residence is
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valued at $325,000 and there's listed a mortgage of $120,000 on
it. I'm looking at some bank accounts, there's total assets of
$430,000. Then taking out the matter of the judgments and
restitution to be ordered here, he has some personal loans.
I'm wondering what happened to all the money? Where did all
the money go?
MR. RILEY: That's a great question, Your Honor. I
will say this. The defendant admitted to using Paycheck
Protection Program fraud funds, EIDL fraud funds to open a
beachfront restaurant in Alexandria, Egypt, his home city. He
admitted to buying real property in Egypt.
THE COURT: That's not listed in his financial --
MR. RILEY: No, it is not, Your Honor. I was going
to make that point. The restaurant, which the Government still
understands to be in operation, was not disclosed to Probation.
The real property in Egypt, that was not disclosed to the U.S.
Probation, so the Government has questions about that.
I will say, Your Honor, with respect to Egypt, this
defendant during the pandemic --
THE COURT: We'll get to it in a moment, the
defendant is a naturalized American citizen. He became an
American citizen in 2007.
MR. RILEY: Roughly two decades --
THE COURT: He was a native of Egypt. Does he have
dual citizenship in both Egypt and the United States?
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MR. RILEY: I'm not a hundred percent sure. I
believe the answer is yes but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
THE COURT: I was wondering as you were talking about
that, the massive amounts of money. It begs the question where
did all the money go.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor. I will say with respect
to Egypt, this defendant was traveling to Egypt during the
pandemic numerous times. He traveled -- and he admitted to
traveling to Egypt, traveling to Dubai, staying at luxury
resorts such as the Four Seasons during his travels. And he
would stay in Egypt for weeks at a time, up to a month at a
time, Your Honor. So the Government understands that a
significant amount of money was spent in Egypt.
I'll say, Your Honor, the Government obviously has limited
visibility into obtaining bank records in Egypt. We looked
into obtaining an MLAT for the Egyptian bank account the
Government was aware this defendant had. It's essentially, we
understood from our friends, the Office of International
Affairs at main Justice essentially not -- impossible to get --
THE COURT: You said it's not impossible or it is
impossible?
MR. RILEY: It is impossible. They're not going to
comply with an MLAT to give you bank records for a bank account
in Egypt. So the Government has no visibility essentially into
the state of this defendant's finances in Egypt. What we --
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THE COURT: As a follow-up to that, I noticed you
mentioned on page 9 of your sentencing memorandum in terms of
other sentences imposed in massive frauds with respect to
pandemic fraud --
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: -- this certainly appears -- I'll hear
from Ms. Reamy in a moment obviously on this -- but this
certainly appears to be one of the largest pandemic fraud
cases, at least of record, that we've had here. Maybe Agent
Parker can tell me, but I'm looking at the amount of money
involved here. It's mind-boggling. We're about to enter a
forfeiture order, restitution order of $17.9 million.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor. The Government would
characterize the losses here as -- the actual losses as
massive.
THE COURT: Certainly one of the largest in the
country, it would appear. I don't know.
MR. RILEY: I would say certainly, Your Honor, it's
the largest in the District of Maryland.
THE COURT: Without question.
MR. RILEY: Without question. I can't speak to the
size across the country, but this is -- I would say this is a
fairly substantial amount of --
THE COURT: Just ask Agent Parker from the FBI,
obviously you've been working some of these cases. Do you have
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some familiarity with what's going on around the country and
the level of fraud here, Agent Parker, from your point of view?
If you'll stand for a minute. I'm just asking, just to get a
feel for this.
AGENT PARKER: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: This is one of the bigger ones in the
country, it would appear to me.
AGENT PARKER: It's my opinion, sir -- and I'm aware
that around the country this is a significant problem. These
types of cases are prevalent in all districts all throughout
the United States.
THE COURT: Yes.
AGENT PARKER: I can say of the ones that I'm aware
of, this is one of the larger fraud schemes. Again, if you --
total circumstances of all the frauds and all the loans.
THE COURT: Thank you very much. I'm not being
critical of the fact you-all can't give me where the money went
out of the United States. You have limited ability to get that
information. Thank you very much, Agent Parker.
AGENT PARKER: Yes, Your Honor.
MR. RILEY: I certainly understand Your Honor's point
where did the money go. From the Government's perspective, a
large amount went to Egypt. If this beachfront restaurant is
still operating, you know, and this defendant still has real
property in Egypt, it should have been disclosed to Probation.
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And, frankly, from the Government's perspective, it should be
repatriated to repay for restitution if he still, in fact, has
an ownership interest in any of these assets.
So, Your Honor, I was talking about the nature and
circumstances of the offense, the scale of the losses in these
cases. The bottom line is that fraud losses of about $18
million, 87 -- at least 87 fraudulent PPP loans, 57 fraudulent
EIDLs, doesn't happen; those fraud losses do not happen without
this defendant. He is the one pulling the levers to make the
pandemic relief funds flow in return for a 20 percent, a 30
percent kickback.
Not only that, Your Honor, so the losses are high; the
scheme itself is protracted. This defendant is engaged in this
conduct for about two years. The scheme itself is
sophisticated. In thinking about the kickbacks to this
defendant, he essentially -- didn't essentially, he concealed
the scheme or attempted to conceal the scheme by having the
people who received the fraud funds make out checks to him --
excuse me, not to him -- sign blank checks where payee is
blank, the memo line is blank, and he's the one who fills out
those series of blank checks to entities and people whom he
controls, sometimes as many as seven checks.
That's to conceal the kickback payment. So it's not a
single check for $78,000 to Ahmed Sary. It's checks broken
down to individuals and businesses that this defendant
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controlled. You would occasionally see, Your Honor, memo lines
that were meant to deceive. For instance, there was -- one of
the entities used to launder the proceeds was a purported
clothing business. The memo line in the kickback check would
say "uniforms." And this is all designed by this defendant to
conceal the scheme.
I think it's notable too, Your Honor, that this defendant
for a number of these fraud borrowers engaged with the
borrowers, encouraged them to set up purported payroll services
after they received the funds to essentially create a bogus
paper trail that could be used to obtain forgiveness for the
PPP loans.
Your Honor may recall this from the facts submitted by
Mr. Walker in connection with his guilty plea. He admitted to
going to the payroll processor at this defendant's direction,
setting up the payroll processing services. And the purpose of
him doing that was to make it appear like he had employees when
he, in fact, had none, and the money flowed to his employees
via payroll and it flowed right back to him.
So this defendant's scheme was sophisticated and it was
multifaceted. Obviously, Your Honor, these were COVID-19
relief funds, Paycheck Protection Program funds, Economic
Injury Disaster Loan funds. These are funds meant for real
struggling businesses, struggling employees, and the defendant
abused these programs to line his own pockets, to travel to
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Egypt, stay at luxury resorts, buy a restaurant, to buy real
property there. And the taxpayer, the banks are essentially
the ones left holding the bag in all of this.
Really, Your Honor, these Paycheck Protection Program
funds, these Economic Injury Disaster Loan funds, these funds
were meant to boost the American economy, not for outrageous
spending by the defendant in his home country of Egypt to boost
the Egyptian economy.
Now the defense appears to suggest in their sentencing
submission that some amount of the money was spent on this
defendant's medical care. The defense notes that this
defendant's mother passed in June 2021 as a result of
complications from diabetes and some ailments thereafter, and
the defense suggests that his mother's circumstances somehow
influenced his decision to engage in this crime and this
scheme.
From the Government's perspective, Your Honor, the Court
should be skeptical. If we look at sort of when this scheme
began in April 2020, that was more than a year before his
mother's passing in June 2021. And after his mother's passing,
it continued. It continued until at least January 2022. So,
again, we have a protracted scheme.
Moreover, Your Honor, we don't have any details. I don't
doubt that this defendant's mother passed, and I'm sorry for
that, but we don't have details about how much he spent, where
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he spent the money, how much of the fraud money he spent to
help his mother. Nothing like that. All we have is this
defendant's say-so in the defense sentencing submission.
So all of this is to say, Your Honor, that the offense is
serious in light of the fraud losses, the actual losses at
issue in this case. It's serious in light of the length of
time when this scheme -- that this scheme occurred, almost two
years. And it's serious in light of the fact that this
defendant did not stop. He did not stop after obtaining almost
a million dollars for his own purported businesses. He kept
the scheme rolling and got that kickback scheme going; 20 to 30
percent of every single fraudulent loan that he sent out, that
he packaged to make those fraud funds flow.
So any suggestion that this was an honest mistake, an
impetuous decision brought on by stress about his mother's
health situation, I don't think that can be squared, Your
Honor, with the facts that this defendant admitted to in his
Rule 11 Stipulation of Facts for the plea.
Your Honor asked Agent Parker about the scale of this
crime. I've talked about it a little bit. But from the
Government's perspective, the need to promote respect for the
law, the need to provide just punishment, those are very
important factors in this case. The Government cited the
figure from a report put together by the SBA OIG with respect
to the amount, the sheer scale of COVID-19 pandemic fraud that
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occurred. Billions and billions of dollars are estimated to be
fraudulent, up to 17. Approximately 17 percent of the money
that was sent out by lenders, by the government, is estimated
to be fraudulent.
That doesn't happen, those numbers are not that high
without people like the defendant who are facilitating numerous
loans, and we have about 150 here. It doesn't happen without
people like the defendant facilitating these loans. And this
defendant is responsible for, as discussed, at least almost $18
million worth of fraud proceeds in this case.
The billions and billions of dollars in fraud losses,
obviously we can't hang all of those losses on that defendant,
we can't. But $18 million is a lot of money and that money did
not flow without this defendant packaging those applications,
submitting those applications, knowing what documents to
include with those applications, and keeping that scheme going
for almost two years.
So the need to provide just punishment, to promote respect
for the law, are very serious considerations from the Court,
and the Government believes that the 114-month sentence is
appropriate if Your Honor considers those factors here.
I want to talk finally -- not finally, but next about the
history and characteristics of this defendant.
THE COURT: Can I just ask you a question on the
amount of money?
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MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: You have a restitution worksheet, a copy
was provided to me.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: You have an original of that to introduce
now, do you not, government exhibit to assist Mr. Carrick in
the restitution?
MR. RILEY: I do. I believe Mr. Carrick has a
copy.
THE COURT: Mr. Carrick, you have it. And Ms. Reamy
has a copy as well?
MS. REAMY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Ms. Reamy, there's no dispute about that
number, is there?
MS. REAMY: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. So that will be entered. I will
note that comes to a total of $17,901,279.87, over $3 million
of which is attributable to the loss of the United States Small
Business Administration, and another $10.9 million is with
respect to Cross River Bank in Fort Lee, New Jersey in and of
itself.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor. I will say with respect
to the figure, it should be 37 cents as opposed to 87 cents, I
apologize.
THE COURT: Okay. That's fine.
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MR. RILEY: So the Government will introduce this
restitution worksheet as Exhibit 1 at this proceeding.
THE COURT: That's fine.
MR. RILEY: As Your Honor noted, the losses are high,
staggering. Cross River Bank had $10.9 million in losses; the
Small Business Administration, almost $3.1 million in losses;
Celtic Bank, $1.9 million in losses. The financial
institutions are all listed on the worksheet.
THE COURT: Yes.
MR. RILEY: The losses are high. Again, this is
actual losses, Your Honor. This conduct requires serious
punishment.
With respect to this defendant's history and
characteristics, it's true, of course, that this defendant has
no criminal history.
THE COURT: As like Mr. Hopkins and Mr. Walker were
on a much smaller level of this fraud, they have no prior
record either.
MR. RILEY: Mr. Hopkins had no record. Mr. Walker
did have a record --
THE COURT: Oh, did he? Okay.
MR. RILEY: Much of it was quite dated, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Right, okay.
MR. RILEY: This defendant's criminal history is
taken into account. It's taken into account in the guidelines.
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This defendant received a 4C1.1 level reduction as well, again,
so all of his lack of criminal history which is admirable,
which the Government is happy about, is reflected in the
guidelines calculated by Your Honor.
I note as well, Your Honor, that this defendant has in his
past attributes -- a history of certain things that many folks
who appear before Your Honor to be sentenced don't have. He
has high school education. The PSR indicates that he did
attend secondary -- I should say university back in Egypt. And
he has a loving and supporting family who have written poignant
letters on his behalf.
I would say, Your Honor, that I understand that this
defendant is loved by his family. I understand that he may
have been involved with volunteering to help folks in Baltimore
City travel to Egypt many years ago. That's admirable, but
none of that justifies a massive -- the massive downward
variance sought by the defense in this case.
Your Honor mentioned Mr. Hopkins and Mr. Walker, and I'm
going to talk finally about the need to avoid unwarranted
sentencing disparities in this case. So Mr. Walker -- this is
in RDB-22-290 -- he received just $262,252 in PPP funds, and he
paid a $78,000 kickback to this defendant. So he essentially
received under, for himself, under $200,000. Your Honor
sentenced Mr. Walker to 24 months' imprisonment, six months of
home confinement. As I said, Mr. Walker, he did have some
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limited criminal history. Most of it was timed out.
Mr. Hopkins received $1,018,224 in connection with this
scheme for his fraudulent PPP and EIDL loans, and he paid the
defendant $177,000 in kickbacks. And Your Honor sentenced
Mr. Hopkins to 24 months' imprisonment.
THE COURT: And 12 months' home detention, I believe.
24 months for Mr. Hopkins. He also received 12 months of home
detention thereafter.
MR. RILEY: Thank you, Your Honor. So if you
consider the pecking order, Your Honor, if Your Honor
considers -- and I know Your Honor has -- those sentences
imposed by Your Honor on Mr. Walker, on Mr. Hopkins, this
defendant is obviously at the top of the pecking order. If we
look at the amount of money that Mr. Walker received, that
Mr. Hopkins received and the kickbacks they paid to this
defendant, the Government's recommended sentence as a matter of
extrapolation from the numbers -- and that would be a crude way
to do it, but if Your Honor compares the numbers, the
Government's recommendation makes sense in this case.
This defendant, again, is responsible for almost $18
million in losses. I will note, Your Honor, the Government
cited a number of cases throughout the country. Obviously,
every defendant is different. It's hard to glean obviously
from a parenthetical all the facts and circumstances of a case.
It's impossible actually. But the Government did include that
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string cite to these national cases to provide context to the
Court, that significant sentences, very significant sentences
have been imposed in cases like this, particularly in
situations where we have someone who's the packager, the
processor, the one who's submitting these -- a large number of
fraudulent applications and then taking a slice for himself,
just like the defendant did in this case.
So, Your Honor, the Government would ask this Court to
impose a 114-month -- nine and a half years -- sentence. The
Government recognizes that it's a lot of time for anyone,
particularly someone who has no criminal history, who has not
been in prison apart from 11 days at CDF like this defendant.
But the Government's recommended sentence is justified,
particularly when Your Honor considers the nature and
circumstances of the offense, the seriousness of the offense,
the need to avoid unwarranted sentencing disparities, as well
as the need to provide just punishment to promote respect for
the law. The Government would ask this Court to impose that
sentence followed by three years of supervised release, to
order restitution, and Your Honor has already ordered
forfeiture.
THE COURT: And the restitution figure agreed upon is
$17,901,279.37.
MR. RILEY: Thank you, Your Honor. Yes, Your
Honor.
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THE COURT: That will be, that restitution order will
be part and will be entered as well, Mr. Carrick. Thank you
very much, Mr. Riley.
MR. RILEY: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Just one last thing, you would
acknowledge that some of these cases have backed out 12 months
or six months for home detention at the end of it? Under
5C1.1(e)(3) of the advisory guidelines, one day of home
detention can equal one day of incarceration, so that could be
a factor molded in at the end.
MR. RILEY: Split sentence, yes, Your Honor. Thank
you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you very much, Mr. Riley.
With that, I'll be glad to hear from you, Ms. Reamy. I
read your sentencing memorandum, paper no. 78, that was
submitted last week on June 19th. I have read the letters from
the defendant's wife, Izabela Sary; his two sons, Mohamed Sary
and Mahmoud Sary; as well as from a friend Linda Derezinski; as
well as a friend Waiel Fetouha. And I've already noted
Baltimore attorney Leonard Redmond has submitted a letter, and
I have read all of those. I'll be glad to hear from you.
MS. REAMY: Thank you, Your Honor. Your Honor, at
the outset, I do want to make the Court aware Ms. Derezinski is
present.
THE COURT: Ms. Derezinski, I read your letter, thank
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you very much.
MS. REAMY: As well as his two adult sons, Mohamed
and Mahmoud. And his wife --
THE COURT: Yes.
MS. REAMY: -- Izabela is also present here in support
of him.
THE COURT: As I understand it, his wife Izabela is
also a naturalized American citizen and came to this country
from Poland, I believe.
MS. REAMY: That's correct.
THE COURT: Welcome.
MS. REAMY: Yes. Your Honor, at the outset,
certainly acknowledging what the guidelines are in this case
and that the guidelines are an important factor in the
sentencing determination. However, as the Court is aware and
has discussed already, the overarching objective is to arrive
at a sentence that is sufficient, but not greater than
necessary, to achieve the goals of sentencing. There's a
concession among the parties that a sentence within a range of
60 to 114 months would be appropriate in this case. Obviously,
the Government has stated its position that the high end is
most appropriate, and we, of course, are asking the Court to
consider a sentence at the low end of that range.
No doubt it's a difficult decision for the Court
considering all of the factors and all of the information in
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this case. There's certainly no dispute whatsoever that this
is a significant case, a serious criminal offense, and it's one
that Mr. Sary has taken responsibility for.
Looking at the nature of the offense, I do have to push
back on the Government's representations on some things. First
of all, there is certainly, as the Court is aware, there is an
upward adjustment for Mr. Sary for having a -- being a manager
or supervisor in the conspiracy. And it's a conspiracy which
means that more than one individual was involved in this
offense. One name that you don't hear -- and I think a reason
that we are not dealing with the upper-level adjustment is
because there's a very important figure involved in this case
and his name is Harold Dotson. That was Mr. Sary's
accountant.
THE COURT: What is his last name?
MS. REAMY: Dotson, D-o-t-s-o-n. Harold Dotson was
Mr. Sary's accountant with special knowledge --
THE COURT: Mr. Dotson is a practicing accountant
here in Baltimore?
MS. REAMY: He's a CPA. The Government is well aware
of him. We believe that the Government is relying heavily, in
addition to other things, on certain information that is
received from Mr. Dotson.
THE COURT: Are you representing that Mr. Dotson
benefited to the tune of millions of dollars in this fraud?
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MS. REAMY: He certainly benefited to a large degree.
I can't provide the specific figure, but I will tell the Court
that Mr. Sary was brought into the conspiracy by his
accountant, Mr. Dotson, who was in a position to have special
knowledge, ability, and know-how in that very specialized
position. He understood the program at its onset; Mr. Sary did
not. He understood what was necessary for the applications;
Mr. Sary did not.
THE COURT: In all candor, Ms. Reamy, I want to
dialogue with you and tell you what I'm thinking up here on the
bench. How complicated is it? It's not that complicated.
During the pandemic, it wasn't that complicated at all. There
were people that showed that they had businesses and that the
people were unemployed. They would fill out a form and say
these people are unemployed and we need money to cover, that's
what was involved. It doesn't take a CPA for a business person
to understand the implications of that. It's plain and simple.
It's saying that you have 14 employees for a business when
there's one, for example, and getting checks for 13 fictitious
employees. All that's woven within this case.
So with all due respect to Mr. Dotson, who he is or who he
is not, the notion that a business person would not understand
the implications of that because of some accountant is a
stretch. If that's your argument, you're going to have to
really convince me of that because I don't think that's
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complicated at all.
MS. REAMY: Your Honor, in broad strokes, I agree
with you. The broad strokes are not necessarily complicated.
But I don't consider myself a stupid individual; I had to
consult with my accountant when it came to learning more about
the application, what was required, and the rules that needed
to be followed with regard to that program.
So I don't think it's quite that simple. But my point is
that it was Mr. Dotson that prepared the initial applications
for Mr. Sary's businesses. By the way, these businesses were
not created -- I've said it in the sentencing memorandum --
these were businesses that were in existence years before the
pandemic, the onset of the pandemic. What Mr. Dotson did is he
then suggested to Mr. Sary to tap into his client base of his
credit counseling and financial consulting business to
encourage those business owners to apply for loans.
And what Mr. Sary has also informed me of is Mr. Dotson
received quite a bit of money of it. From information that's
been provided to me by the Government, it's very apparent that
Mr. Dotson has a gambling problem and that he, according to
Mr. Sary, liked to receive cash payments which would not be
reflected in a lot of -- in the checks that the Government
relies upon.
So there is a significant role here, and so I'm just
pushing back primarily on this notion and this characterization
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that the Government is putting out there, the story line --
without backing away from the fact that Mr. Sary had a very
significant role. He's not disputing his involvement. But
this spotlight on Mr. Sary as almost the entire -- the singular
individual that's responsible for all of this is simply not
accurate. That's the point that we're trying to make with the
Government.
THE COURT: I understand that point. It's a point
that I think it's good for you to try to make, mainly because
my question here lingers is where in the world did all the
money go?
MS. REAMY: There are many, many businesses that were
involved in this so a lot of these funds were sent to
businesses, were received by the businesses that applied.
THE COURT: And a lot of money he received,
Mr. Sary --
MS. REAMY: Certainly, no dispute with that. A lot
of it went to people like Harold --
THE COURT: It's perfectly clear to me that we don't
have any idea where some of the money went that he got.
MS. REAMY: I understand that as well, Your Honor --
THE COURT: Nor have you represented in your papers
thus far the amount of money -- we're talking $17 million.
Let's cut it in half, take a fourth of it, I don't know. But
there are millions of dollars that somehow went to this
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defendant, and the Government has no idea where the money went
nor can you represent to me as an officer of the court that you
can tell me where it went.
MS. REAMY: I can't, I cannot.
THE COURT: That's right. Maybe he can, or maybe he
can't, but there's a lot of money missing. And it goes without
question, it doesn't take a stretch for this Court to find
there's a lot of money missing that went out of the United
States. It may not have all gone to Dubai, some of it might
have gone to Egypt. Maybe the one person here who can tell us
is Mr. Sary. Maybe he'll have to deal with that either today
or he deals with it while he's in the prison under the auspices
of Rule 35(a) which means he has maybe a year after sentencing
to decide how much information he wants to give to the
government. I'm mentioning that, Ms. Reamy, just to give you
an opportunity to respond on that.
MS. REAMY: I understand, Your Honor. I can't tell
the Court -- I can't as an officer of the court stand here and
tell the Court where all these dollars went.
THE COURT: I understand.
MS. REAMY: I can say the larger figure of $17
million does not represent all the dollars that went to
Mr. Sary.
THE COURT: I understand that. I'm willing to accept
that argument that he doesn't have $17 million in his pocket,
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but clearly he has a lot of money that went in his pocket and
we don't know where it went. You as an officer of the Court --
I have an immense amount of respect for you -- you are candidly
acknowledging you don't know. You can't represent as an
advocate where it went.
MS. REAMY: I can't. I can tell the Court that my
understanding from speaking with Mr. Sary, with his wife, with
his adult sons -- they're all going to address the Court --
from -- it's recognized in Mr. Fetouha's letter, I'm going to
touch on that more -- it's not just Mr. Sary's mother that he
was dealing with. This problem and what we've essentially said
to the Court is: What's the reason? Why does a man who's been
law-abiding for -- at this point, I think he was 42 years old
at the onset of this program, 46 now. Why does a man who has
by all accounts been completely law-abiding, generous to his
friends, his family, his community, a loving father, a devoted
husband, why does he do something like this?
What we've told the Court is it's not just his mother who
passes away in 2021. This problem, enormous emotional and
financial struggles began in 2016. That's when Mr. Fetouha --
I would say Dr. Fetouha but he's not licensed as a doctor here
in the United States.
THE COURT: Mr. Fetouha is one of the individuals who
wrote me a letter.
MS. REAMY: Correct. He met Mr. Sary on a flight in
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2016 so well before the onset of the pandemic. Met him on a
flight from Egypt to JFK. It just so happened that the two of
them were going through very similar circumstances at the time.
Mr. Sary was dealing with the decline of his father who died in
2018, again, before the onset of the pandemic, and Mr. Fetouha
was dealing with problems relating to his mother. What we've
said in the sentencing memorandum and how this becomes a
financial problem -- his father died. As you can see in the
sentencing memorandum as well as the presentence report, they
were very, very, very, very close, him and his father -- and
him and his mother and his siblings.
Even though Mr. Sary lawfully immigrated to the United
States in 2002 -- 2000 and subsequently became a United States
citizen, he didn't just forget about his family in Egypt. He
was very, very close to them, always has.
So he was profoundly affected, devastated when his father
died in 2016. At the same time -- that certainly had an effect
on his father's wife, Mr. Sary's mother, who then went into
additional decline. She died in 2021 in the midst of the
pandemic from complications from diabetes. This is all
going -- Izabela Sary will stand here and will support that
information because she lived it with Ahmed Sary.
What was happening is and what you have to understand
about the structure in Egypt is they have two types of medical
treatment facilities there. They have public hospitals, which
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Mr. Sary has said they are incapable -- there's waiting lists,
first of all, months long to get treatment, and absolutely
they're incapable of treating more significant health
conditions like the ones who took the lives of his parents.
So the only option in his view, a son who will do anything
for his parents, who feels guilty that he's not with them, is
to make sure that they have adequate medical care. And he did
that by paying for private hospitals. Before the onset of the
pandemic. He indicated to me that at some point, it was a
thousand dollars a day to pay for their care or more.
There's no denial there were other expenditures certainly.
He does indicate to me that he's not an owner of Sary's
Kitchen. His brother is a half owner of Sary's Kitchen and
that the property it sits on is rented, not owned.
So there are certain things about the presentation made by
the Government that, by design I think, are overinflating to
some degree Mr. Sary's role in this. It's not to say that it
wasn't significant, not to say that there weren't great losses,
but there is a mischaracterization from our point of view by
the Government in that regard.
Now looking at who Mr. Sary is. Again, he's 46 years old
and he does receive a two-level downward adjustment because he
meets the criteria under the zero-point offender. But one
thing I want to point out is that adjustment would apply to
anyone of any age who meets that criteria. So it would apply
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to a 21- or 22-year-old. Someone who's managed to make it from
being a juvenile to barely an adult would get that same
reduction. There's quite a difference between that person --
and those adjustments do apply to individuals of that age --
and someone who's gone much, much further in their life without
committing a crime.
So there was an influence. There were influences at the
time that the decision was made to become involved in the
conspiracy that were in play here. There was the financial and
emotional pressure stemming from the decline of his parents and
there was an influence from Harold Dotson.
Mr. Sary, by all accounts, is just a generally -- has a
history, demonstrated history of being a kind, gentle, loving,
supportive and trusted human being. He is embarrassed. He
could have packed this courtroom. We spent long periods of
time talking about it. He could have packed this courtroom
with people who support him but was that embarrassed.
THE COURT: Presumably those same people will support
his family.
MS. REAMY: That's the hope. Izabela is going to
struggle, so are the minor children. Certainly Mr. Sary hopes
that his two adult sons will help, but he doesn't know. They
are young adults, as I've indicated more specifically in the
sentencing memorandum. But it's going to be a struggle. In
fact, Mr. Sary said to me that he just doesn't know if Izabela
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even understands how difficult it's going to be for her. She
doesn't have any family here to support her. They've got three
children under the age of 11, and unfortunately the
six-year-old, as I've indicated, suffers from Type 1 diabetes
which is not a mild case. It's a very severe case. To the
extent that they actually have to take shifts during the night
to make sure that her glucose monitor doesn't go off.
Izabela will address this, but she's going to be in a
position where she has to take all of the responsibility to
care for these minor children, somehow work or find a way to
support themselves and try to keep the house. The Government
has certainly indicated it's going to put a lien on their
house. It's a modest home, as the Court has read in the
sentencing memorandum.
THE COURT: According to the presentence report, the
house is in Brooklyn Park.
MS. REAMY: Yes.
THE COURT: And is essentially valued at some --
where is it here? Valued at $325,000 and listed as being
subject to a mortgage of 120,000. So essentially there's maybe
$200,000 equity in the home.
MS. REAMY: Roughly. There was a fire unfortunately,
as I've indicated to the Court. It was in January of this
year, a catastrophic fire that displaced them. They still
haven't been able to move back in the home. They've been
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forced to reside in a rental nearby in the general
neighborhood. The hope is that they'll be able to return to
the home at the end of this month, but Mr. Sary has advised
that keeps getting pushed back. He's not confident they will
be able to return to the home at the end of June.
So there are certainly some attributes to Mr. -- I think
some pretty important attributes to Mr. Sary that should be
weighed heavily in a 3553(a) analysis. As the Government
pointed out, certainly he's going to receive a prison sentence
here today, not less than 60 months. This is a man --
THE COURT: Not less than 60 months, yes.
MS. REAMY: Not less. This is an individual who has
never served any time in prison but for the 11 days pending his
release.
THE COURT: I think according to my calculations, in
fairness to the defendant, he was in federal custody I thought
from April 29th to May 13th of 2022 which I think calculates
out to some 15 days.
MS. REAMY: Okay, then I stand corrected.
THE COURT: I think it's a little over two weeks.
MS. REAMY: Yes. So that short period of time.
THE COURT: The search warrant authorized by -- this
was a federal search warrant, correct --
MR. RILEY: Judge Coulson, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Yeah. The search warrant was executed on
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April 29 of 2022, and he was placed in arrest immediately after
the execution of the search warrant and was released two weeks
thereafter.
MS. REAMY: Right. Your Honor, in addition to
whatever term of imprisonment the Court selects, whatever the
Court decides within the range is sufficient, but not greater
than necessary, in terms of imprisonment, there is also the
massive financial penalty that will loom over Mr. Sary and his
family because they are a unit, and they depend upon him for a
very long time going forward.
Mr. Sary is distraught, his wife is distraught. His
youngest children have no understanding of what's going on.
His adult children are here obviously in support of him and
have some understanding.
One of the last things I want to mention before we start
bringing them up to speak briefly to the Court is that the
probation office -- I appreciate the Government's selection of
cases and sentences, but there's a metric that's been provided
by the probation office that I think is important to the
analysis here. And that is that according to their office --
this is based on an offense level two levels higher, but 99
percent of similarly-situated defendants so defendants who have
a Criminal History Category I and an offense level actually at
a 33, two levels higher than what Mr. Sary's offense level
turns out to be, received an average sentence of 90 months'
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imprisonment.
I think that that is actually a more accurate metric as
to --
THE COURT: Where's the metric to which you're
referring?
MS. REAMY: If you look, Your Honor, at the very end
of the -- before the conditions of supervised release.
MR. RILEY: Page 25, Your Honor, it's adjacent
information.
THE COURT: Page 25, I see it.
MS. REAMY: It's under the judiciary sentencing
information.
THE COURT: Right.
The primary guideline under 2B1.1 is a fraud guideline,
correct?
MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
MS. REAMY: Yes.
THE COURT: I'm not really sure what your point is on
that, Ms. Reamy. If you'll clarify. The metrics that is being
referenced there is with respect to 2B1.1.
MS. REAMY: I think what they're saying here is that
individuals with the same offense level and criminal history
category who did not receive 5K1 adjustments had an average
sentence of 90 months roughly.
THE COURT: Just so the record is clear, this is
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essentially the guideline referencing under 2B1.1 of the
advisory guidelines with respect to larceny, embezzlement and
other forms of theft, offenses involving stolen property,
property damage or destruction, fraud and deceit, forgery and
offenses in terms of counterfeit bearer obligations. I'm not
really sure, with all due respect to the probation office, that
that really fits in terms of what's involved here with fraud --
pandemic fraud which is a once-in-a-century event.
Thank you very much, Ms. Reamy. Unless you have anything
further you want to add to your very thorough sentencing
memorandum, I'd be glad to hear from anyone who wants to come
forward before I give Mr. Sary an opportunity to speak on his
own behalf.
I see Ms. Derezinski standing. I'll be glad to hear from
her.
MS. REAMY: Yes, I told her we would be asking her to
approach initially.
THE COURT: Sure.
MS. REAMY: The one thing I want to say lastly is
that our recommendation is that the Court impose a 60-month
sentence with a period of home detention as well.
THE COURT: I understand.
MR. RILEY: Your Honor, I apologize. If Your Honor
would like to hear from me with respect to Mr. Dotson. A lot
of statements have been made.
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THE COURT: I'm going to wait -- in a minute for you.
I'm going to ask you about that.
MR. RILEY: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Ms. Derezinski, I'll be glad to hear from
you.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: I read your letter to me. I'll be glad
to hear from you.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Thank you, sir. Thank you for the
opportunity to address the Court today. I stand before you to
respectfully request leniency in Ahmed Sary's sentencing. I've
had the pleasure of knowing Ahmed for the past 17 years, and I
hope to highlight several factors that warrant a more
compassionate consideration of his circumstances and actions.
Firstly, Ahmed has demonstrated genuine remorse for his
actions from the outset. He has cooperated fully with
authorities and taken responsibility for his mistakes and
expressed deep regret for the harm caused. This remorse is not
just a legal strategy but a sincere reflection of his
understanding of the consequences of his actions.
Secondly, it is essential to consider Ahmed's background
and character. Ahmed has made significant contributions to our
community, being highly active on social media assisting other
families with Type 1 diabetes. As you heard already, Your
Honor, his mother and his youngest daughter are both afflicted
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with this disease.
THE COURT: Your letter, Ms. Derezinski, to me which
is document 78-7 in the file which has been under seal, but it
notes that he has contributed to the Baltimore-Alexandria
Sister City Committee and has facilitated cross-city exchanges
from Egypt to the United States.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: To what extent has he facilitated that,
he's paid for?
MS. DEREZINSKI: He was responsible for recruiting
people to come from Luxor and Alexandria and come here to
America.
THE COURT: To visit or become citizens or what?
MS. DEREZINSKI: It was an exchange program with --
the Mayor's Office, Ahmed?
THE DEFENDANT: The Mayor's Office.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Yeah, with Baltimore City Mayor's
Office. What they were trying to do is get -- here we were
trying to recruit doctors, and so with this program, he was
getting talented people from Egypt to come to Baltimore with
the hopes --
THE COURT: And then ultimately return to Egypt.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Exactly. But hopefully --
THE COURT: Also having people from Baltimore go to
Egypt to assist their society?
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MS. DEREZINSKI: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Who was paying for that?
MS. DEREZINSKI: He was volunteering.
THE COURT: In other words, he wrote checks for that?
THE DEFENDANT: No.
MS. DEREZINSKI: No, sir.
THE COURT: I'm asking a very simple question: Who
was paying? I've been involved with these exchange programs
with the State Department, Ms. Derezinski; I go to Russia and
Ukraine. Somebody wrote checks for the plane tickets and
hotels. Who paid for these exchanges back and forth, the City
of Baltimore?
MS. DEREZINSKI: I do know that there were times when
they could not find housing for people, and they actually
stayed at his house until it could be arranged. But he --
THE COURT: Ms. Reamy, can you shed light on this?
MS. REAMY: Yes, Judge, it's referenced in the
sentencing memorandum. This occurred in 2008 under Sheila
Dixon. We provided a long write-up on everything that happened
there and the timing of it. This was way before the
pandemic.
THE COURT: I'm just trying to clarify if the
representation is that Mr. Sary made financial contributions
for this program to allow these exchanges.
MS. REAMY: No, it was his time and effort.
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THE COURT: Okay, that's fine. Thank you.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Time and being able to translate --
THE COURT: Thank you. I didn't mean to interrupt
you. I was just trying to clarify what you were saying.
MS. DEREZINSKI: No problem. This incident is
starkly out of character and substantially deviates from his
typical behavior. Ahmed's commitment to his faith and his
profound understanding of different cultures are testaments to
his integrity and dedication. His actions consistently reflect
a person whose values help others and foster a supportive
environment to those in need.
Moreover, I would like to draw the Court's attention to
the potential impact of a harsh sentence on Ahmed's family and
dependents. Ahmed is a devoted and loving husband, father of
five children. His youngest child who is only six, as we
stated before, has Type 1 diabetes. A lenient sentence
would allow Ahmed to continue to provide the crucial support
and stability his family desperately needs. This consideration
is vital to prevent further unintended consequences of his
punishment, ensuring his family does not suffer unduly from his
absence.
Finally, Your Honor, I urge you to consider the broader
context of this case. While justice must be served, it is
essential to balance punishment with compassion and potential
for rehabilitation. A lenient sentence will serve as a second
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chance for Ahmed and a testament to the belief that people are
capable of change and redemption.
In conclusion, Ahmed is a person who profoundly values
moral integrity and is committed to making a positive change.
I respectfully request the Court show leniency in sentencing
Ahmed, considering his remorse, his character, his efforts
towards rehabilitation and the impact on his family. Thank you
for considering this appeal for a more compassionate form of
justice.
THE COURT: Thank you, Ms. Derezinski. I will say I
appreciate your letter, and the issues you raised are
considered by me in every case.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Thank you, sir.
THE COURT: There's never a case I have when I don't
consider those factors. I also have to consider a message for
the public.
MS. DEREZINSKI: Yes, sir --
THE COURT: -- goes in there as well. But thank you
very much.
Yes, Ms. Reamy.
MS. REAMY: Your Honor, next will be Mr. Sary's son,
Mohamed Sary.
THE COURT: I'll be glad to hear from him. I've read
his letter to the Court which is paper no. 78-6 which is under
seal. Mr. Sary, I'll be glad to hear from you, sir.
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I understand that you're currently a student at Liberty
University; is that correct?
MR. MOHAMED SARY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: What year are you, rising senior or
junior?
MR. MOHAMED SARY: I'm a junior.
THE COURT: Be a junior starting in September.
MR. MOHAMED SARY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: It's nice to hear from you and I've read
your letter.
MR. MOHAMED SARY: Thank you. Your Honor, today I
stand before you with great pride and gratitude as I speak
about a man who has shared my life in a way I can only begin to
express. My father is not just a parent. He is a hero, a
monitor and a beacon of strength. From a very young age, my
father knew the meaning of hard work and sacrifice. He began
working at a tender age of nine, shouldering responsibilities
that most children never had to face.
Despite his own challenges, he always put his family
first. He supported his parents tirelessly even through the
toughest of times. I witnessed firsthand his unwavering
commitment when my grandmother fell seriously ill, requiring
urgent care, attention. Without hesitation, my father assured
she received the care she needed even though it meant
significant financial strain. His dedication extended beyond
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borders. Despite the distance, my father made countless
journeys to Egypt to check on his parents, ensuring they were
well cared for. His love knew no bounds and his actions spoke
louder than any words could.
I was born and raised, Your Honor, in Egypt, me and my
brother. We were raised by our grandmother while my father
worked tirelessly abroad, striving to give us a better future.
At the age of 16, me and my brother moved here to live with my
dad for the first time consistently. The joy and that
fulfillment finally being close to him cannot be described.
It's an emotion that I never want to lose again.
Over the past two years, Your Honor, our family has faced
unprecedented challenges. My father Ahmed has owned personal
troubles, both mentally and financially. He remained pillar of
strength for all of us despite grappling with his own hardship.
He steadfastly put aside his own feelings to ensure that we
received his unwavering attention and support. His
selflessness knows no bounds. As a father, he exemplified
everything I inspire to be. He taught us invaluable lesson and
installed in us the importance of dreams and goals that we need
to be in.
My own dreams of becoming a soccer player was not
supported but also was cheered by him. He provided me all of
the equipment I need through this journey. His support did not
stop there. He was always there for me during my education,
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encouraging me and guiding me. He pushed me to do well and not
just to be successful and to be also responsible person who can
make positive differences.
Becoming a commercial pilot in aviation has been my dream
since I was a kid. Without my dad's support, I would not be
able to start it, and now without him it will be extremely hard
for me to finish it because I will lose the biggest support.
His sacrifice, his kindness, his unwavering support has
shaped my character and fueled my passions. He has shown me
what it means to be selfless and compassionate. Today as I
reflect on his journey, his impact on my life, I'm filled with
profound admiration and love. My father is not just a great,
he is a role model and inspiration and my hero.
Thank you so much, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you very much, Mr. Sary. Good luck
in your studies. Thank you very much.
MS. REAMY: Your Honor --
THE COURT: As I often note, Mr. Sary, to adult
children of people in these situations, you should not just
judge your father by these circumstances. Everyone makes
mistakes and you try to move on from them, but you should not
judge your father as a result of this. Yes, Ms. Reamy.
MS. REAMY: Next will be his other son, Mahmoud
Sary.
THE COURT: Yes, I'd be glad to hear from him.
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I have read your letter as well.
MR. MAHMOUD SARY: Good morning, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Nice to have you, sir. Good morning.
MR. MAHMOUD SARY: Talking about my dad is the
hardest thing you can ever imagine. To me, he is my best
friend. He did a lot for me. What he ever done, it's
unbelievable. With his family support, he's been giving us
since day one. As my brother mentioned, we came in here at the
age of 16 years old. The love I have been seeing from him,
what have been needed. For years he showed me and my siblings
a lot, a lot of stuff, a lot of things. He been there for me
when I needed it the most. He's there for me for my education.
I'm also student. The support he's been giving me for my
school is a lot. Pushing me forward to be successful man and
making me the man I am today, fear nothing as long as he's next
to me. I don't need anything to read from to talk about my dad
and how valuable he is, how lovely he is, how beloved a person
he is. I'm learning a lot from him. I'll always be learning
from him.
I just want to tell him I love you so much. You will
always be my best friend. I cannot imagine my life without
him. Just imagining that he won't be with me for certain
amount of time is killing me.
I'm a very impatient person. I love my future and the
only way I can see that I have my future is because he is at my
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back, at my side supporting me, pushing me forward. I don't
see that right now. I don't. Last two hours I'm sitting here,
I just see nothing. I don't know what's going to happen.
I love you so much... It's very, very hard for me to just
imagine that he won't be with us.
He did, he did many unbelievable stuff. Our family is
not -- doesn't have the same beliefs, doesn't have the same
religions, doesn't have the same language, not even from the
same culture, but he connected us, make us a family. My mom
from Poland, my dad from Egypt; we live in the United States,
and we're the most lovely family I've ever seen. I'll always
learn from that.
He's an unbelievable person. You can never hate that
person. Nobody can ever talk about him and just like not love
him. His ability for making people loving him is crazy. It's
unbelievable. There's no way you can hate that person.
There's no way anything in this world can make him look bad in
my eyes. He's an amazing person.
I love you, man.
THE DEFENDANT: I love you --
MR. MAHMOUD SARY: I love you.
Thank you so much, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Sary. Again, as I
mentioned to your brother, don't just judge your father by one
incident in his life. There will be plenty of better days
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ahead. Thank you very much.
MS. REAMY: Lastly, Your Honor, Izabela Sary,
Mr. Sary's wife.
Your Honor, may I step forward to the Kleenex box here?
THE COURT: Sure, sure.
MRS. SARY: Good afternoon, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Good afternoon, Mrs. Sary.
MRS. SARY: Your Honor, thank you for the opportunity
to humbly ask that you show Ahmed leniency in your choice of
sentence for this case. I'm appealing and pleading for your
clemency as the wife of Ahmed Sary. We have been together for
almost 21 years and from beginning, he has been proving how
honorable, honest, respectful and caring person he is.
First of all, Ahmed has shown true remorse by
acknowledging and accepting accountability for his action,
decision and mistakes. He follow all the conditions, and he
was always cooperate with authorities.
He significant -- it is significant to have full
understanding of his character. My parents, my family deeply
love Ahmed regardless of different cultures, religions and
traditions. They love Ahmed for his sincere, kind and generous
heart. My husband always work very hard for us to visit -- his
family, took time and close connections. The family and loved
ones were always his priority.
Ahmed never refuse helping others. He was raised like --
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by amazing parents who deeply love him. Even going through
hard time by himself, Ahmed was always -- Ahmed has always
tried to find a way to help less fortunate. He has never
turned from anyone even without having enough financial support
for himself. And we have many days like that in our life. His
compassion, gratitude, and the way he shared in this
Baltimore-Luxor-Alexandria Sister community. Later on the
World Peace Organization, he volunteer in many programs,
events, dedicating himself extremely.
When my parents-in-law got serious health issues, Ahmed
visited often to provide financial and emotional support. Even
devastated by the fact, he was trying to get the best care for
them in Egypt and in the United States. He was searching for
the greatest doctors and medication to help them regardless of
the cost of it. He was always the huge support for all his
family.
As a little boy he was working after school just because
he felt obligated to help his parents to raise children. He
was just seven years old, going after school to his uncle's to
sell the muffins. He never has in his mind to look for easy
way in his life.
Ahmed is adored husband and father of our five kids. He
teaches them honesty, generosity, kindness and compassion.
He got devastated after we found that our youngest
daughter has chronic illness. Excuse me. She has Type 1
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diabetes since December '21. She was just four years old. It
crushed him completely, especially that he was still grieving
his beloved mom. He was doing all kinds of research, even
outside of the country to help our daughter. From the
beginning, he was up at night to make sure her sugar was right
for her not to fall in coma. And he's monitoring -- he was
monitoring her constantly until now. Now it's just checking if
she's breathing, if she's... if she's doing okay.
It's terrifying situation with a lot of pressure on him,
as hard as it was for him to watch his daughter being in pain.
The more he tries to find help for her is the difficulties of
it. All injections and now insertions of the hurtful sensor
for S. are very painful, and he was -- he's for her every day.
She could not do it without him. He is her rock. Ahmed gives
her comfort, and it will be more traumatic for her not to have
his support and encouragement. All our children depend on him,
like I do. Ahmed was born to be amazing father and is a great
citizen. Our life without him, being away will be worthless.
Finally, even during difficult and overwhelming situation,
he finds strength to be supportive and reliable, as a fellow on
nonprofit organization called Juvenile Diabetes Cure Alliance,
participating in organizing the fundraiser for them and adding
voice to support parents, kids having Type 1 diabetes.
During the last two years, he has signed for classes in
City Community -- the community college of Baltimore City to
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improve his skills and knowledge. He's committed to making
positive change and improvement.
I respectfully request leniency. My husband is a good and
wonderful person with essential morals that build his
character. We love him so much. Thank you for your kind
attention.
THE COURT: Thank you very much, Mrs. Sary. Thank
you very much.
Anyone else you want to call, Ms. Reamy, before I give the
defendant an opportunity to speak on his own behalf?
MS. REAMY: No, Your Honor.
(Conference on the sealed record.)
(It is the policy of this court that every guilty plea and
sentencing proceeding include a bench conference concerning
whether the defendant is or is not cooperating.)
THE COURT: If you'll please stand, Mr. Sary. I now
personally address you, sir, and determine if you wish to make
a statement and give you the opportunity to speak on your own
behalf. Would you like to make a statement?
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. I just want to --
THE COURT: Pull the microphone a bit closer to you
so the court reporter can hear you.
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. I just want to say
sorry. I have remorse over what happened, for me being
involved that kind of scheme. Whether I was brought into it
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somehow, I want to say sorry to the government, I want to say
sorry to you, Your Honor. I want to say sorry to my family,
sorry to my kids, to put them in this kind of situation and put
myself in this situation --
THE COURT: I don't mean to interrupt you, but it
just occurred to me I think before I hear from you any further
allocation personally and interact with you, I'd like to hear
from the Government with respect to the representations -- if
you'll sit for a moment -- defense counsel has made as to an
individual named Harold Dotson, D-o-t-s-o-n, represented to me
is a certified public accountant.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Some very serious comments have been made
about Mr. Dotson, and the Government has indicated it would
like to respond. I'll be glad to hear from you.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor. I'll say at the outset,
the Government -- to the extent that Mr. Dotson has been
charged and it's not publicly known --
THE COURT: Did you say he has been charged?
MR. RILEY: To the extent that he has been charged
and that's not a public matter, I'm not going to refer to that.
THE COURT: I understand.
MR. RILEY: What I will do is refer the Court to the
Stipulation of Facts in the parties' plea agreement which talk
about H.D., Harold Dotson. The Stipulation of Facts make clear
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that in connection with the PPP and EIDL loan kickback scheme,
it was the defendant that was getting 20 to 30 percent of the
fraud proceeds and then getting Mr. Dotson, H.D., two to five
percent of that amount, as admitted by the defendant in the
Stipulation of Facts. I think that fact alone makes clear in
terms of relative culpability who was driving this process.
The Stipulation of Facts makes plain that Mr. Dotson --
the Government doesn't shy away from this at all -- Mr. Dotson
provided bogus, fake tax forms that were submitted in
connection with these applications --
THE COURT: Presumably the Government is following up
on that matter as to Mr. Dotson, correct?
MR. RILEY: Is and has, Your Honor.
THE COURT: That's all I need to know.
MR. RILEY: I would just state, Your Honor, those
percentages, this defendant getting 20 to 30 percent of the
fraud proceeds and Mr. Dotson getting his small slice
comparatively, I think, speaks for itself in terms of relative
culpability.
THE COURT: Thank you very much, Mr. Riley. I
understand.
With that, now if you'll continue, Mr. Sary. It's
important for you to continue. I'll be glad to hear from you
continuing on. Go right ahead, sir.
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor. I just want to tell
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you that I have remorse and I want -- I'm not -- I'm sorry to
put myself in this position and put my family into this. This
was very hurtful to hear my sons just saying something like
that and crying, even my wife tearing. That to me is just
worth the money of the whole world. I don't care about
anything, I should think better than that at that time. I
don't know, but this is out of my character, Your Honor. I
have huge remorse.
THE COURT: I'll tell you, Mr. Sary, I always find it
difficult when there are naturalized American citizens before
me in these kind of situations because I have found that
naturalized American citizens many times know more about this
country than other native-born Americans. They've studied the
history of the country, they understand the implications of
American citizenship. They are here because this country is
still a beacon of hope for people around the world. I really
believe that. We have an immigration problem in this country
because people want to come here.
I told one of my colleagues in Russia: You don't have an
immigration problem because people don't want to come to your
country. We have problems at our borders because people want
to come here. They want to come here and be part of our
culture and want to come here and become part of our community.
Naturalized American citizens are equal to any citizen. You
are equal to me as a citizen because you became an American
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citizen, and I believe that. There are very few countries --
no country in the world that has like a Statute of Liberty that
we have in New York City Harbor. All of that sounds trite but
it's true.
THE DEFENDANT: That's true.
THE COURT: But the point is when naturalized
American citizens become engaged in fraud, it is very
distressing to me because I know the commitments that
naturalized American citizens have made in seeking citizenship
in coming here. Your sons are a testament to that in terms of
two very fine young men who stood forward before me and felt
the pain of this embarrassment and still trying to move forward
with their lives. They'll move forward with this. They'll
move forward with this.
Just in speaking to them, I'll tell you there's a very
prominent family in this city, names of which would be familiar
to many people in this courtroom. What people don't know is
that all those successful brothers had a father who went to
prison one time for embezzlement in the Baltimore metropolitan
area. They allowed it to drive them. They loved their father,
they supported their father. Their father admitted doing
something wrong, and all of those brothers went ahead to being
highly successful. It drove them. They're not going to be
destroyed by this presumably, they're going to get better.
Your time will come.
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THE DEFENDANT: I hope so.
THE COURT: You've done many good things. But this
is -- this situation here is more than distressing; it is just
outrageous. It's outrageous. What has lingered through here,
as of this moment, no one can tell me where all the money went.
I don't necessarily believe you put $17 million in your pocket,
but you clearly got a lot of money put into your pocket by the
statement of facts to which Mr. Riley has alluded that you
acknowledged under oath when you pled guilty before me last
October.
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: I understand commitments and paying
medical bills for family members; that still does not begin to
address and explain where all this money went. For whatever
reason, there's been no explanation of that and there can be an
accounting of that, and the government can be advised of that.
To the extent that there's money in bank accounts anywhere or
there are assets owned in Egypt, any of those things, that
money can be recouped. If people are willing to atone for
their sins and also assist the government in recovering that
money, it's as simple as that. It's not complicated. It's not
complicated.
To the extent that people take money under fraud and move
it out of the United States and subject their family to all
these difficult issues and all these interpersonal
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relationships and family issues, there's still money that left
the United States and the Payment Protection Program, out of
the strength of the American economy to support businesses, and
there's money that was fraudulently taken from that program and
sent out of this country and is sitting somewhere in Egypt.
There's no other way to get around that. That is a raw fact.
So what does that mean? It means that you have to atone
for that in some way and you have not done enough yet to do
that. It's clear to me that the Government does not know how
to find this money. You know how to tell them how to find it
if you choose to do so. If you choose to do so. And there's a
very specific rule under the Federal Rules of Criminal
Procedure, Rule 35(a) of the Federal Rules of Criminal
Procedure provide for a mechanism whereby people within one
year of being sentenced can assist and provide information to
the government that may entitle them to a reduction in sentence
and coming back before this Court.
Is that not correct, Mr. Riley?
MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Correct, Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Both the lawyers -- your lawyer, the
prosecutor will tell you what the law is. The sentence you
receive here today can potentially be reduced if within the
next year of today's date, between now and June 25, 2025, you
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step forward and assist the government in some way trying to
find where the money went and make representations to it. I'm
factoring that in with this sentence.
I hear what your pain is and I understand it, but this is
just -- the notion -- I look at this restitution sheet, and I
don't for a minute think all this money necessarily went into
your pocket. You were part of a conspiracy and this is a
restitution figure, but when you look at $10.9 million from a
small bank in New Jersey is their loss; over $3 million lost to
the Small Business Administration. The Small Business
Administration was created to assist small business people like
you.
In the face of a once-in-a-century pandemic, many people
stepped up to try to deal with this for the good of our
culture. And the thought that some of that money is taken by
you, anyone, and then goes overseas and people shrug their
shoulders and say, we're not sure where it went. We're going
to try to find out where it went; it's as simple as that.
THE DEFENDANT: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: I have factored in all of these factors.
I have considered the four Congressionally-mandated purposes of
sentencing are to punish you, and there's no question you've
been punished and you will be punished; to deter you and others
from criminal conduct. I can only hope that word goes out in
these kinds of cases. I hope that others can step forward in
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terms of the level of fraud that was perpetrated upon the
American public and taxpayers and citizens by this kind of
fraud.
I don't think the public needs any further protection from
you, and I think you're on the road to rehabilitation. But
you're not all the way there. Very simple, Mr. Sary, you're
not all the way there. All the good things that you've done --
Ms. Derezinski's comments what a good person you've been -- you
can be a really good person and a really good citizen if you
step up and try to explain where all the money went. It's not
complicated.
So to achieve these four purposes, I start with a
calculation of the advisory guideline range. I don't presume
that that range is reasonable, and indeed it is at the upper
end of what the agreed range was here in your case here. When
I look at all of these factors and consider the sentences
imposed upon minor figures in this fraud compared to you and
the sentences that they've received -- 2 years plus 12 months
of home detention in the case of one. You have a far bigger
role in it, and it is reflected clearly in the presentence
report.
Considering all those factors, the level of money that was
missing that no one can seem to find where it went and the
level of the fraud here, it is ordered that you be remanded to
the custody of the Bureau of Prisons for a period of 84 months,
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7 years, on Count 1 of the criminal information, with credit
for time served in federal custody from April 29, 2022, to May
13, 2022. I'm going to recommend that you go to the minimum
male camp, FCI Cumberland, Maryland, or in the alternative,
minimum male camp in Fairton, New Jersey.
So your family understands, the minimum male camp, you
have visiting hours just about every Saturday. It's a very
civilized process. You're allowed to entertain visitors, and
your family can visit you every weekend and see you every
weekend.
Does the Government have any reason to believe this
defendant represents a risk of flight or threat to the
community?
MR. RILEY: No, Your Honor. The Government would ask
this Court to continue this defendant under the current
conditions of release.
THE COURT: Yes, that's what I was going to do. You
don't have any objection to voluntary surrender?
MR. RILEY: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: The presentence report reflected that,
meaning there's no handcuffs. You will get a reporting date.
We'll have the reporting date, Mr. Carrick, be within 60 days.
He'll report on or before August 25, 2024. You voluntarily
surrender at the gates of either the minimum male camp in
Cumberland, Maryland, which is straight out Route 70 off of the
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Beltway all the way out to western Maryland or, in the
alternative, the minimum male camp in Fairton, New Jersey.
That will be the recommendation. I can't guarantee which place
to which you will be assigned, but I'll make that
recommendation.
I'm going to recommend that you get mental health and
psychological counseling. I know there have been some problems
addressed to me in terms of a certain amount of depression, and
that's understandable under these circumstances. This is meant
to help you. I'm going to recommend you get some type of
vocational training while you're incarcerated to have some more
substantive means of supporting your family in light of the
business setbacks that you've reached.
I'm going to place you on supervised release for a period
of three years. The first 12 months of that will be home
detention. Under Section 5C1.1(e)(3) of the advisory
guidelines, one day of home detention can equal one day of
incarceration. So just as the other defendants who have been
sentenced here have home detention, you're essentially getting
84 months, or 7 years, plus another year, 12 months of home
detention. So the whole punishment structure is essentially 96
months which is about a year and a half less than what was
requested by the Government. I'm not going to sentence you to
the entire 114-month window.
I have structured this for 7 years, for 84 months, and 12
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months of home detention. I'll be going over that in more
detail in a minute.
I'm going to enter a restitution order here in the amount
of 17 comma 901 comma 279 point 37, meaning $17,901,279.37.
Mr. Carrick, you have the distribution sheet as to how it will
be paid. You'll be paying that at the rate of essentially as
has been ordered as to other defendants in smaller amounts.
That will be paid approximately $250 a month each month during
your period of supervised release, but I'll go over that again
with you in a minute.
This is a very serious matter. It represents an enormous
fraud on the American public in taking advantage of a
once-in-a-century crisis. It cannot be countenanced. Nothing
is being accomplished just by putting people in prison when the
government is having trouble finding the money. My goal here,
in case it's not obvious, is to provide any vehicle to see to
it there's some effort to make substantive assistance to the
U.S. government in finding where this money is abroad and
assisting the government in that process.
To put it bluntly, Mr. Sary, to the extent that you have
access to any money in a financial institution in Egypt or you
own any property in Egypt, you and you alone can liquidate
those assets, and you and you alone can see that that money is
forwarded to the government toward this restitution figure.
That may or may not trigger a motion by the Government for
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reduction of sentence within the next year. That's totally
within the discretion of the Government. But I've advised you
of that rule and your lawyer has acknowledged it, and Mr. Riley
has acknowledged the existence of that federal rule. I'm
stating it so the public understands.
You'll be placed on supervised release for three years
with the mandatory conditions that you not commit any federal,
state or local crime; that you must not unlawfully possess a
controlled substance, that you must refrain from any unlawful
use of a controlled substance and must submit to one drug test
within 15 days of your release from imprisonment.
You shall make restitution in accordance with 18 United
States Code § 3663 and any other statute authorizing
restitution. We've set a restitution figure here. It will be
paid at the rate of $250 a month during your supervised
release. It will not be collected -- Mr. Carrick -- during
your incarceration, because I recognize the financial
implications that you're facing.
You must also cooperate in the collection of DNA as a
mandatory condition of supervised release.
Sex offender registration, Mr. Carrick, is not an option
here and not a factor, nor is any problem for domestic
violence.
They are the mandatory conditions. There are certain
standard conditions of supervised release. They are that you
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must report to the probation office in the federal judicial
district where you're authorized to reside within 72 hours of
your release from prison. Presumably that will be in Maryland
that you'll reside. After initially reporting, you'll receive
instructions as to when and where to report.
You are not to knowingly leave this federal judicial
district where you're authorized to reside without first
getting permission of the Court.
You must answer truthfully all questions asked of you by
your probation officer and you must live at a place approved by
the probation officer. You must allow the probation officer to
visit you at any time and also advise you of any change --
advise him or her of any change in your residence.
You must make every effort to work full-time at a lawful
type of employment during your period of supervised release,
and you must not communicate or interact with anyone that you
know or have reason to believe is engaged in criminal activity.
If you know someone who's been convicted of a felony with whom
you're having contact, you must not knowingly communicate or
interact with that person without first getting the permission
of your probation officer.
If you are arrested or questioned by law enforcement, you
must notify the probation officer within 72 hours. You must
not own, possess or have access to a firearm, ammunition,
destructive device or any dangerous weapon.
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You must not act or make any agreement with a law
enforcement agency without first getting the permission of the
Court. Which means that to the extent that there's any
possibility of your providing information to the government to
assist in finding these missing funds, that can be monitored
through your lawyer. Ms. Reamy is your privately retained
attorney. You can communicate with her and she can deal with
the government in terms of any steps in that regard.
If you're deemed to pose a risk to any other person, you
shall abstain from contact with that person if it's deemed
necessary by the probation officer.
In short, what you must do is follow the instructions of
the probation officer at all times in these matters.
There are additional conditions of supervised release to
which I've obviously already made reference. The first and
most important of which is that you are restricted to your
residence at all times for employment, education, religious
services -- you are restricted for a period of 12 months to
your residence except for employment, education, religious
services, medical, substance abuse, or mental health treatment,
or attorney visits or court appearances or court-ordered
obligations. Meaning you can go to work, you can go to visit a
doctor, can go to religious services, you can meet your lawyer,
but otherwise you are essentially on house arrest. You go home
for the first 12 months of this three-year period of supervised
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release.
You will be monitored by the form of a location monitoring
technology chosen at the discretion of the probation officer.
As I've said, this will be for a period of 12 months, and you
must follow the rules and regulations of that monitoring
program and pay the cost of the program as directed.
You must also, in addition to that, provide the probation
officer with access to any requested financial information and
authorize the release of that financial information and share
it with the government. You must not accrue any new credit
charges or open additional lines of credit without the approval
of the probation officer.
There is a special assessment of $100 which is mandatory
and shall be paid within the next 60 days. Let me check that
out here. Yes, special assessment of $100. It will be paid
within the next 60 days. It's a mandatory assessment under 18
United States Code § 3013. You are to pay outstanding monetary
restitution as ordered, $250 a month, as I've already
indicated, towards restitution.
I'm not going to impose a fine in this case because you're
not able to pay a fine and facing very severe financial
circumstances and all money should be going towards
restitution.
Pretrial Services, as I've said, has recommended your
continued release but there's one additional condition to be
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added. In addition to the conditions presently set as to which
you've been abiding that were originally set by, I think, Judge
Hurson and then -- by Judge Coulson and modified by Judge
Hurson, in addition to those conditions which still remain in
effect, Mr. Carrick, we're going to add a mental health
condition that you shall receive any mental health treatment or
psychological counseling as deemed necessary in this matter
until you report to the prison in two months. That's all being
paid for by the government, by the way. You don't pay for
that. That is a serious matter and I address it.
I want to advise you of your appeal rights. In paragraph
11 of the plea agreement, both you and the Government waived
appeal of any lawful sentence and this is a lawful sentence.
It's clearly a more severe sentence than Ms. Reamy had argued
for, but there is a way to reduce it. It's slightly less than
what the Government requested. If you still felt that you
wanted to note an appeal even though you waived any right of an
appeal in this matter, you should do so within 14 days of the
entry of the Judgment and Commitment Order in this case
pursuant to Rule 4(b) of the Federal Rules of Appellate
Procedure.
If you cannot afford an attorney or handle an appeal, an
attorney can be appointed for you. Ms. Reamy, you do not need
to notify the Court, but presumably he does not desire to file
an appeal and just put a note in your file to that effect.
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MS. REAMY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Is there anything further from the point
of view of the Government on this matter, Mr. Riley?
MR. RILEY: Yes, with respect to restitution, Your
Honor, the final page of the Government's sentencing
submission, ECF 76, page 10, the Government did note that
certain portions of the restitution order entered by Your Honor
should be joint and several with certain other
co-conspirators.
THE COURT: Yes, I'm sorry I overlooked that. That's
correct.
MR. RILEY: As long as that's reflected in the
Judgment and Commitment Order, there shouldn't be any issues.
THE COURT: Yeah. By the way, the money judgment
that's been entered by me in the amount of $3,627,489.22,
that's credited against the restitution, is it not?
MR. RILEY: It's two separate obligations --
THE COURT: I understand that.
MR. RILEY: Not directly, Your Honor. The Government
has to apply for permission to the attorney general to have --
THE COURT: But presumably it can be applied.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Nobody seriously believes they're getting
$17 million back, that's my point.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor. Absolutely, Your
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Honor.
THE COURT: Okay. So to the extent that this is --
this will be joint and several, this obligation will be joint
and several. I'm just trying to see, as to Mr. Hopkins -- the
figures vary, Mr. Riley, in terms of the joint and several
liability with these defendants, so I'm trying to have you walk
me through in terms of what you're asking.
MR. RILEY: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Cross River Bank is in the Walker case.
MR. RILEY: Correct, Your Honor.
THE COURT: What is it you're asking to be joint and
several?
MR. RILEY: I'm asking for of the defendant's
obligation in the restitution order in this case of
$10,929,288.22, $262,252 of that should be joint and several
with Mr. Walker's in criminal case number RDB-22-290.
THE COURT: That's in terms of the restitution
figures.
MR. RILEY: That's restitution, Your Honor.
THE COURT: What I suggest you do is that you show
this to Mr. Carrick and, Mr. Carrick, we'll take a break for
lunch and we'll come back after lunch. You'll need to set this
up so that the way this will work, Mr. Carrick, is you can look
at the restitution figures in that exhibit that have been
provided. As to Cross River Bank, for example, the $10,929,288
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of that figure, there is joint and several liability as to
Mr. Hopkins in a certain amount, and there is a joint and
several liability as to Mr. Walker and Mr. Qureshi and
Mr. Gillespie, correct?
MR. RILEY: That's correct. Absolutely right, Your
Honor.
THE COURT: So that doesn't require much work. It's
just that one figure for Cross River Bank. Then basically
Celtic Bank and the Small Business Administration are also
joint and several obligations with Mr. Hopkins.
My suggestion, Mr. Riley, make sure you show this and go
over this after we conclude today with Mr. Carrick before he
breaks for lunch, so when he comes back after lunch, we can
have this correctly set forth in the Judgment and Commitment
Order.
MR. RILEY: Will do, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Is there anything else?
MR. RILEY: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Thank you, Mr. Riley, for your work on
this. And, Agent Parker, thank you for your work.
Ms. Reamy, anything further from your point of view?
MS. REAMY: One briefly. That was a recommendation
for alcohol treatment. Mr. Sary, since the sentencing --
Ms. Izabela reported this to me last week; it's not
problematic, he's not violent or derelict in any way --
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THE COURT: I understand.
MS. REAMY: But it's extremely uncharacteristic for
him to consume alcohol --
THE COURT: I understand. In terms of treatment in
prison, you're suggesting?
MS. REAMY: Even up till then. She's concerned.
It's very uncharacteristic for him and seems to be a method of
him self-treating.
THE COURT: I understand. What are you asking the
Court to do?
MS. REAMY: Both alcohol, any alcohol treatment --
THE COURT: Will recommend in the next 60 days before
he reports that he get alcohol treatment as well.
MS. REAMY: I guess, if the Court thinks that's
reasonable --
THE COURT: What I'm reluctant to do, Ms. Reamy, I'm
reluctant to summarily say he can't drink any alcohol, and
we're going to have him report to prison right away.
MS. REAMY: Well, I certainly understand that.
THE COURT: I don't know how severe the problem is.
MS. REAMY: I don't think that it's something -- the
biggest issue Izabela presented to me is that he was a
nondrinker completely. Since the guilty plea in this case, she
believes he's been self-medicating anxiety and depression.
THE COURT: I can certainly understand that.
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MS. REAMY: So she's asked for him --
THE COURT: I'll recommend him to get mental health
treatment as well as substance abuse counseling in that regard,
and I'll recommend also -- I meant to add in terms of the
programs, we'll also have along with vocational training and
mental health and psychological counseling, we'll have
substance abuse, Mr. Carrick, added as well. To the extent
that he needs any kind of treatment, substance abuse treatment
at prison or alcohol treatment, we'll recommend that as well.
MS. REAMY: Yes. He has just asked me because there
is so much uncertainty -- Mr. Sary has just asked me because
there is so much uncertainty surrounding the ability of the
family to move back into the home that was damaged by fire,
he's asking if he can have 90 days before his surrender.
THE COURT: Yes, certainly, that's fine. We'll make
the reporting date 90 days. You have 90 days to pay the
special assessment. Mr. Carrick, we'll have reporting date of
90 days. That's fine. So it will be by September 25, 2024.
Anything further, Ms. Reamy?
MS. REAMY: No, Your Honor. Thank you.
THE COURT: I think you need to stay engaged in this
matter in terms of the implications here.
Mr. Sary, I wish you the best of luck.
THE DEFENDANT: Thank you.
THE COURT: The matter of depression issues, nothing
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to be embarrassed about. Believe me, I don't know of a person
that stands there where I've sentenced you and somebody doesn't
have depression about it.
I also want to address your children, your two sons. I
meant that, what I said to both of you. You both can get
stronger as a result of this. This is a very painful moment.
People make mistakes. Your father has made an egregious
mistake and it's harmed many people. He's going to have to
deal with this. Perhaps he can even deal with it a little
better over the next year. But you'll move forward, life will
move forward.
Mr. Sary, you have a very good lawyer there. You've got a
very strong family, you have good friends, you have a strong
wife. Don't put yourself out on a shelf somewhere. Don't be
the least bit hesitant to talk to Ms. Reamy if you're having an
issue. Do you understand that?
THE DEFENDANT: Sure, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Very specifically, I'll note to the
probation office -- and Ms. Wonneman can follow up on this --
if you need to get alcohol counseling immediately, immediately,
Ms. Wonneman, we can try to make that available very quickly,
can we not?
PROBATION OFFICER: Your Honor, it's Ms. Martin. I
stepped in for Ms. Wonneman. But, yes, we'll make sure that
takes place --
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THE COURT: If you think you're having a difficult
moment or your wife thinks, call Ms. Reamy, she'll call
probation. Within 24 hours, 48 hours, we'll have you talking
to some professional about it in some way.
THE DEFENDANT: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: It's meant to help you, it's meant to
help you. Supervised release is meant to help you turn the
corner.
THE DEFENDANT: Thank you, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Don't overlook what I've clearly
indicated on the record here. There's a lot of money missing.
I don't know of anybody better that can tell us where some of
the money is that's missing than you. That's up to you.
With that, this Court stands adjourned for the day. Thank
you very much.
THE CLERK: All rise. Court stands in adjournment.
(Proceedings concluded at 1:16 p.m.)
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CERTIFICATE OF OFFICIAL REPORTER
I, Patricia G. Mitchell, Registered Merit Reporter,
Certified Realtime Reporter, in and for the United States
District Court for the District of Maryland, do hereby certify,
pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 753, that the foregoing is a true and
correct transcript of the stenographically-reported proceedings
held in the above-entitled matter and the transcript page
format is in conformance with the regulations of the Judicial
Conference of the United States.
Dated this 26th day of August 2025.
_________________________________
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Federal Official Reporter
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applies 14:4.
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copies 4:13.
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doctor 43:21, 79:23.
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heart 13:10, 62:22.
heavily 38:21, 48:8.
held 89:7.
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help 29:2, 33:14, 46:22, 55:10,
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keep 6:14, 47:11.
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medication 13:17, 63:14.
medications 13:7, 13:8,
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33:5, 34:21, 59:18, 81:17,
81:25, 82:6, 87:18.
noted 5:24, 11:15, 12:13, 19:20,
32:4, 36:19.
notes 1:49, 28:11, 53:4.
Nothing 29:2, 60:15, 61:3, 76:13,
86:25.
notice 5:7, 5:12.
noticed 24:1.
notified 6:15.
notify 78:23, 81:24.
noting 16:1.
notion 39:22, 40:25, 72:5.
Number 2:5, 27:8, 31:14, 34:22,
35:5, 83:16.
numbers 30:5, 34:17, 34:18.
numerous 19:19, 20:10, 20:23,
21:1, 23:8, 30:6.
nutshell 16:7.
.
.
< O >.
oath 70:9.
objection 4:21, 5:5, 9:3,
74:18.
objective 37:16.
obligated 63:18.
obligation 83:3, 83:14.
obligations 51:5, 79:22, 82:17,
84:10.
obtain 21:13, 21:19, 27:11.
obtained 20:6.
obtaining 23:15, 23:16, 29:9.
obvious 76:16.
Obviously 13:25, 23:14, 24:7,
24:25, 27:21, 30:12, 34:13,
34:22, 34:23, 37:20, 49:13,
79:15.
occasionally 27:1.
occurred 29:7, 30:1, 54:18,
66:6.
offender 45:23, 77:21.
offense 7:5, 12:5, 16:13, 16:19,
16:23, 17:2, 17:6, 17:17, 19:12,
19:14, 26:5, 29:4, 35:15, 38:2,
38:4, 38:10, 49:21, 49:23,
49:24, 50:22.
offenses 51:3, 51:5.
Office 1:30, 11:10, 14:20, 14:21,
23:18, 49:17, 49:19, 49:20,
51:6, 53:15, 53:16, 53:18, 78:1,
87:19.
OFFICER 3:19, 3:22, 42:2, 42:18,
43:2, 78:10, 78:11, 78:21,
78:23, 79:11, 79:13, 80:3, 80:8,
80:12, 87:23.
Official 89:1, 89:17.
officials 14:24.
often 59:18, 63:11.
OIG 29:24.
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Okay 9:22, 31:16, 31:25, 32:21,
32:23, 48:19, 55:1, 64:8,
83:2.
old 43:13, 45:21, 60:9, 63:19,
64:1.
Olympic 1:40.
once-in-a-century 51:8, 72:13,
76:13.
one-count 2:6, 18:20.
ones 25:6, 25:13, 28:3, 45:4,
62:24.
onset 39:6, 40:13, 43:14, 44:1,
44:5, 45:8.
open 22:9, 80:11.
operating 25:24.
operation 22:15.
opinion 11:5, 25:8.
opinions 11:2, 12:10, 12:11.
opportunity 8:15, 18:12, 42:16,
51:12, 52:10, 62:8, 65:10,
65:18.
opposed 31:23.
option 45:5, 77:21.
Order 10:12, 10:13, 14:10, 14:20,
15:2, 15:12, 15:17, 17:13,
24:12, 34:10, 34:13, 35:20,
36:1, 76:3, 81:19, 82:7, 82:13,
83:14, 84:15.
ordered 17:4, 22:4, 35:20, 73:24,
76:7, 80:18.
orders 2:9, 9:16.
Ordinarily 13:1, 14:15, 17:8.
Organization 63:8, 64:21.
organizing 64:22.
original 18:17, 31:5.
originally 81:2.
others 55:10, 62:25, 72:23,
72:25.
otherwise 4:3, 14:14, 79:24.
outline 11:3.
outrageous 28:6, 70:4.
outset 19:25, 36:23, 37:12, 52:16,
66:16.
outside 12:21, 64:4.
outstanding 80:17.
overarching 37:16.
overinflating 45:16.
overlaps 12:25.
overlook 88:10.
overlooked 6:6, 82:10.
overseas 72:16.
overwhelming 64:19.
own 18:12, 20:7, 27:25, 29:10,
51:13, 57:19, 58:15, 58:16,
58:22, 65:10, 65:18, 76:22,
78:24.
owned 45:14, 58:13, 70:18.
owner 45:12, 45:13.
owners 40:16.
ownership 26:3.
.
.
< P >.
p.m. 88:17.
packaged 20:10, 29:13.
packager 35:4.
packaging 30:14.
packed 46:15, 46:16.
Page 15:5, 15:6, 15:7, 24:2, 50:8,
50:10, 82:5, 82:6, 89:7.
paid 33:22, 34:3, 34:15, 53:9,
54:11, 76:6, 76:8, 77:15, 80:14,
80:15, 81:9.
pain 64:10, 69:12, 72:4.
painful 64:13, 87:6.
pandemic 2:14, 5:8, 19:3, 19:15,
22:19, 23:8, 24:4, 24:8, 26:10,
29:25, 39:12, 40:13, 44:1, 44:5,
44:20, 45:9, 51:8, 54:21,
72:13.
paper 10:15, 18:23, 21:2, 27:11,
36:15, 56:24.
papers 41:22.
Paragraph 6:22, 7:12, 9:4, 11:8,
13:7, 13:9, 15:5, 15:6, 16:10,
16:19, 16:22, 17:2, 17:9,
81:11.
parent 57:14.
parenthetical 34:24.
parents 45:4, 45:6, 46:10, 57:20,
58:2, 62:19, 63:1, 63:18,
64:23.
parents-in-law 63:10.
Park 47:16.
Parker 1:46, 2:23, 3:1, 24:10,
24:24, 25:2, 25:5, 25:8, 25:13,
25:19, 25:20, 29:19,
84:20.
part 15:4, 36:2, 68:22, 68:23,
72:7.
participating 64:22.
particular 2:12, 11:12.
particularly 19:11, 35:3, 35:11,
35:14.
parties 2:16, 6:11, 19:6, 37:19,
66:24.
parts 20:25.
passed 13:24, 28:12, 28:24.
passes 43:19.
passing 28:20.
passions 59:9.
past 33:6, 52:12, 58:12.
Patricia 89:2, 89:16.
Paul 1:29, 2:22.
pay 45:10, 80:6, 80:17, 80:21, 81:9,
86:16.
Paycheck 19:1, 19:21, 20:11, 22:8,
27:22, 28:4.
payee 26:19.
paying 45:8, 54:2, 54:8, 70:12,
76:6.
Payment 5:9, 26:23, 71:2.
payments 40:21.
payroll 27:9, 27:15, 27:16,
27:19.
Peace 63:8.
pecking 34:10, 34:13.
penalty 49:8.
pending 5:25, 6:1, 20:22,
48:13.
percent 21:6, 23:1, 23:2, 26:10,
26:11, 29:12, 30:2, 49:22, 67:2,
67:4, 67:16.
percentages 67:16.
perfectly 41:19.
Perhaps 9:17, 14:25, 87:9.
period 15:1, 18:25, 48:21, 51:21,
73:25, 75:14, 76:9, 78:15,
79:18, 79:25, 80:4.
periods 46:15.
permission 78:8, 78:20, 79:2,
82:20.
permitted 15:12.
perpetrated 73:1.
person 6:10, 20:10, 39:16, 39:22,
42:10, 46:3, 55:10, 56:3, 59:2,
60:17, 60:24, 61:13, 61:14,
61:16, 61:18, 62:13, 65:4, 73:8,
73:9, 78:20, 79:9, 79:10,
87:1.
personal 12:3, 22:4, 58:13.
personally 65:17, 66:7.
persons 18:13.
perspective 25:22, 26:1, 28:17,
29:21.
pillar 58:14.
pilot 59:4.
Place 1:40, 75:3, 75:14, 78:10,
87:25.
placed 49:1, 77:6.
plain 39:17, 67:7.
Plaintiff 1:7.
plan 5:9.
plane 54:10.
play 46:9.
player 58:22.
plea 7:12, 7:14, 7:22, 8:3, 10:5,
10:10, 10:16, 11:8, 14:15, 18:5,
27:14, 29:18, 65:13, 66:24,
81:12, 85:23.
pleading 62:10.
please 2:20, 65:16.
pleased 4:2.
pleasure 52:12.
pled 2:6, 5:20, 6:1, 6:3, 7:7, 18:20,
20:21, 70:9.
plenty 61:25.
plus 73:18, 75:20.
pocket 42:25, 43:1, 70:6, 70:7,
72:7.
pockets 27:25.
poignant 33:10.
point 8:4, 9:8, 10:18, 12:15, 17:18,
22:14, 25:2, 25:21, 40:8, 41:6,
41:8, 43:13, 45:9, 45:19, 45:24,
50:18, 69:6, 76:4, 82:2, 82:24,
84:21.
pointed 48:9.
Poland 37:9, 61:10.
policies 15:24.
policy 2:13, 15:1, 65:13.
portions 82:7.
pose 79:9.
position 37:21, 39:4, 39:6, 47:9,
68:2.
positive 56:4, 59:3, 65:2.
possess 77:8, 78:24.
possibility 79:4.
potential 55:13, 55:24.
potentially 71:24.
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PPP 20:7, 21:3, 21:15, 26:7, 27:12,
33:21, 34:3, 67:1.
PPP/EIDL 20:9.
practicing 38:18.
preliminary 10:13.
preparation 21:24.
prepared 8:16, 11:10, 20:10,
40:9.
preparing 14:10, 21:2.
Present 1:45, 36:24, 37:5.
presentation 45:15.
presentations 4:25.
presented 85:22.
presentence 6:20, 8:16, 11:9, 13:6,
14:17, 15:3, 15:5, 16:11, 16:22,
17:23, 21:23, 44:9, 47:15,
73:20, 74:20.
presently 81:1.
president 15:15.
presiding 2:12.
pressure 46:10, 64:9.
Presumably 46:18, 67:11, 69:24,
78:3, 81:24, 82:21.
presume 12:14, 73:13.
Pretrial 80:24.
pretty 48:7.
prevalent 25:10.
prevent 55:19.
previously 2:10, 11:13, 12:8.
pride 57:12.
primarily 40:25.
primary 50:14.
prior 32:17.
priority 62:24.
prison 7:22, 8:2, 8:12, 35:12,
42:12, 48:9, 48:13, 69:19,
76:14, 78:3, 81:8, 85:5, 85:18,
86:9.
Prisons 73:25.
private 45:8.
privately 3:10, 79:6.
PROBATION 1:45, 3:18, 3:22,
11:10, 14:21, 22:15, 22:17,
25:25, 49:17, 49:19, 51:6, 78:1,
78:10, 78:11, 78:21, 78:23,
79:11, 79:13, 80:3, 80:7, 80:12,
87:19, 87:23, 88:3.
problem 25:9, 40:20, 43:11, 43:19,
44:8, 55:5, 68:17, 68:20, 77:22,
85:20.
problematic 84:25.
problems 44:6, 68:21, 75:7.
Procedure 7:9, 7:10, 71:13, 71:14,
81:21.
procedures 13:23.
proceed 2:7, 6:18, 13:20.
proceeding 32:2, 65:14.
Proceedings 1:20, 4:5, 5:16, 14:11,
88:17, 89:6.
proceeds 27:3, 30:10, 67:3,
67:17.
process 10:2, 10:24, 11:3, 12:1,
12:15, 67:6, 74:8, 76:19.
processing 27:16.
processor 27:15, 35:5.
professional 88:4.
profound 55:8, 59:12.
profoundly 44:16, 56:3.
Program 5:10, 19:2, 19:22, 20:11,
22:9, 27:22, 28:4, 39:6, 40:7,
43:14, 53:14, 53:19, 54:24,
71:2, 71:4, 80:6.
programs 27:25, 54:8, 63:8,
86:5.
prominent 69:16.
promote 29:21, 30:18, 35:17.
property 22:11, 22:16, 25:25, 28:2,
45:14, 51:3, 51:4, 76:22.
prosecutor 71:23.
PROTECT 13:23, 14:1, 14:3,
15:20.
Protection 5:9, 19:1, 19:21, 20:11,
22:9, 27:22, 28:4, 71:2,
73:4.
protracted 26:13, 28:22.
provide 29:22, 30:18, 35:1, 35:17,
39:2, 55:17, 63:11, 71:14,
71:15, 76:16, 80:7.
provided 7:14, 10:11, 31:3, 40:19,
49:18, 54:19, 58:23, 67:9,
83:25.
provides 7:10, 7:25.
providing 79:4.
proving 62:12.
provision 9:17.
provisions 11:16, 13:25,
14:1.
PSR 33:8.
psychological 75:7, 81:7,
86:6.
public 2:10, 14:24, 14:25, 44:25,
56:16, 66:11, 66:21, 73:2, 73:4,
76:12, 77:5.
publicly 15:16, 66:18.
Pull 8:22, 65:21.
pulling 26:9.
punish 72:22.
punished 72:23.
punishment 29:22, 30:18, 32:12,
35:17, 55:20, 55:24,
75:21.
purported 20:7, 21:1, 21:19, 27:3,
27:9, 29:10.
purpose 27:16.
purposes 72:21, 73:12.
pursuant 7:8, 12:16, 81:20,
89:5.
push 38:4.
pushed 48:4, 59:1.
Pushing 40:25, 60:14, 61:1.
put 21:7, 29:24, 47:12, 57:19,
58:16, 66:3, 68:2, 70:6, 70:7,
76:20, 81:25, 87:14.
putting 41:1, 76:14.
.
.
< Q >.
question 8:12, 19:13, 22:7, 23:4,
24:20, 24:21, 30:24, 41:10,
42:7, 54:7, 72:22.
questioned 78:22.
questions 22:17, 78:9.
quickly 87:21.
quite 5:2, 32:22, 40:8, 40:18,
46:3.
Qureshi 20:18, 84:3.
.
.
< R >.
raise 63:18.
raised 17:18, 56:11, 58:5, 58:6,
62:25.
rate 76:6, 77:15.
raw 71:6.
RDB-22-290 33:21, 83:16.
RDB-23-0344 2:5.
reached 75:13.
read 4:4, 4:11, 4:19, 18:22, 36:15,
36:16, 36:21, 36:25, 47:13,
52:7, 56:23, 57:9, 60:1,
60:16.
reads 17:9.
ready 6:18.
real 19:16, 22:11, 22:16, 25:24,
27:23, 28:1.
reality 18:3, 21:19.
Really 28:4, 39:25, 50:18, 51:6,
51:7, 68:16, 73:9.
Realtime 89:3.
reason 14:13, 38:10, 43:12, 70:15,
74:11, 78:17.
reasonable 12:15, 73:14,
85:15.
Reasons 12:22, 14:13, 18:4.
recall 27:13.
receive 40:21, 45:22, 48:9, 50:23,
71:24, 78:4, 81:6.
received 4:6, 4:8, 4:13, 9:12, 9:14,
21:4, 21:8, 26:18, 27:10, 33:1,
33:21, 33:23, 34:2, 34:7, 34:14,
34:15, 38:23, 40:18, 41:14,
41:15, 49:25, 57:24, 58:17,
73:18.
recent 6:23, 15:23.
recognize 18:11, 77:17.
recognized 43:9.
recognizes 35:10.
recommend 74:3, 75:6, 75:10,
85:12, 86:2, 86:4, 86:9.
recommendation 34:19, 51:20,
75:3, 75:5, 84:22.
recommended 34:16, 35:13,
80:24.
record 2:20, 3:6, 4:9, 24:9, 32:18,
32:19, 32:20, 50:25,
88:11.
record. 65:12.
records 23:15, 23:23.
recouped 70:19.
recovering 70:20.
recruit 53:19.
recruiting 53:10.
redemption 56:2.
Redmond 4:9, 4:11, 36:20.
reduce 81:15.
reduced 71:24.
reduction 33:1, 46:3, 71:16,
77:1.
refer 66:21, 66:23.
reference 79:15.
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referenced 11:8, 11:9, 50:20,
54:17.
referencing 51:1.
referring 50:5.
reflect 4:9, 55:9, 59:11.
reflected 33:3, 40:22, 73:20, 74:20,
82:12.
reflection 52:19.
reflux 13:9, 13:10.
refrain 77:9.
refuse 62:25.
regard 4:11, 40:7, 45:20, 79:8,
86:3.
regardless 62:20, 63:14.
Reginald 5:20.
Registered 89:2.
registration 77:21.
regret 52:18.
regulations 80:5, 89:8.
rehabilitation 55:25, 56:7,
73:5.
relate 13:9.
relates 18:24.
relating 15:3, 44:6.
relationships 71:1.
relative 67:6, 67:18.
release 9:15, 9:18, 35:19, 48:14,
50:7, 74:16, 75:14, 76:9, 77:6,
77:11, 77:16, 77:20, 77:25,
78:3, 78:15, 79:14, 80:1, 80:9,
80:25, 88:7.
released 49:2.
reliable 64:20.
relief 26:10, 27:22.
relies 40:23.
religions 61:8, 62:20.
religious 79:17, 79:19, 79:23.
reluctant 85:16, 85:17.
relying 38:21.
remain 81:4.
remained 58:14.
remanded 73:24.
remarks 18:11.
remorse 52:15, 52:18, 56:6, 62:14,
65:24, 68:1, 68:8.
rendered 11:13, 11:19.
rental 48:1.
rented 45:14.
repatriated 26:2.
repay 26:2.
replacing 3:19.
report 6:20, 8:16, 11:10, 13:7,
14:17, 15:3, 15:5, 15:7, 16:11,
16:22, 17:23, 21:23, 29:24,
44:9, 47:15, 73:21, 74:20,
74:23, 78:1, 78:5, 81:8,
85:18.
reported 84:24.
Reporter 65:22, 89:1, 89:2, 89:3,
89:17.
reporting 74:21, 74:22, 78:4,
86:16, 86:17.
reports 85:13.
represent 3:6, 42:2, 42:22,
43:4.
representation 54:23.
representations 38:5, 66:8,
72:2.
represented 41:22, 66:10.
representing 38:24.
represents 74:12, 76:11.
request 52:11, 56:5, 65:3.
requested 75:23, 80:8, 81:16.
require 84:7.
required 2:10, 13:23, 40:6.
requirements 15:19.
requires 14:3, 32:11.
requiring 57:22.
research 64:3.
reside 48:1, 78:2, 78:4, 78:7.
residence 21:25, 78:13, 79:17,
79:19.
resorts 23:10, 28:1.
respect 5:8, 6:19, 9:4, 9:15, 10:5,
10:25, 15:23, 18:5, 19:1, 22:18,
23:6, 24:3, 29:21, 29:24, 30:18,
31:20, 31:22, 32:13, 35:17,
39:21, 43:3, 50:20, 51:2, 51:6,
51:24, 66:8, 82:4.
respectful 62:13.
respectfully 52:11, 56:5,
65:3.
respond 42:16, 66:15.
response 19:2.
responsibilities 57:17.
responsibility 16:15, 38:3, 47:9,
52:17.
responsible 19:20, 19:23, 30:9,
34:20, 41:5, 53:10, 59:2.
restaurant 22:10, 22:14, 25:23,
28:1.
restitution 10:12, 17:4, 22:4, 24:12,
26:2, 31:2, 31:7, 32:2, 35:20,
35:22, 36:1, 72:5, 72:8, 76:3,
76:24, 77:12, 77:14, 80:18,
80:19, 80:23, 82:4, 82:7, 82:16,
83:14, 83:17, 83:19,
83:24.
restricted 79:16, 79:18.
result 11:18, 21:7, 28:12, 59:22,
87:6.
results 16:13.
retained 3:10, 79:6.
return 26:10, 48:2, 48:5,
53:22.
review 8:16, 11:23, 14:24, 15:9,
15:11.
reviewed 8:20, 15:8.
RICHARD D. BENNETT 1:22.
rights 81:11.
rise 88:16.
rising 57:4.
risk 74:12, 79:9.
River 31:20, 32:5, 83:9, 83:25,
84:8.
RMR 89:16.
road 73:5.
rock 64:14.
role 40:24, 41:3, 45:17, 59:13,
73:20.
rolling 29:11.
Roughly 20:6, 22:23, 47:22,
50:24.
Route 74:25.
Rule 7:8, 7:9, 7:25, 29:18, 42:13,
71:12, 71:13, 77:3, 77:4,
81:20.
Rules 7:9, 7:10, 40:6, 71:12, 71:13,
80:5, 81:20.
Russia 54:9, 68:19.
.
.
< S >.
S. 64:13.
sacrifice 57:16, 59:8.
satisfied 8:25, 13:19.
Saturday 74:7.
say-so 29:3.
saying 39:18, 50:21, 55:4,
68:3.
SBA 29:24.
scale 26:5, 29:19, 29:25.
scheme 19:18, 20:6, 20:8, 20:9,
21:7, 21:11, 26:13, 26:14,
26:17, 27:6, 27:20, 28:16,
28:18, 28:22, 29:7, 29:11,
30:16, 34:3, 65:25, 67:1.
schemes 25:14.
School 4:11, 33:8, 60:14, 63:17,
63:19.
seal 15:8, 53:3, 56:25.
sealed 65:12.
search 48:22, 48:23, 48:25,
49:2.
searching 63:13.
Seasons 23:10.
seated 2:4, 3:4, 3:24, 18:8.
second 12:11, 55:25.
secondary 33:9.
Secondly 52:21.
Section 15:3, 15:6, 75:16.
sections 11:12.
seeing 60:9.
seeking 69:9.
seem 73:23.
seems 85:7.
seen 61:11.
selection 49:17.
selects 49:5.
self-medicating 85:24.
self-treating 85:8.
selfless 59:10.
selflessness 58:18.
sell 63:20.
senior 57:4.
sense 34:19.
sensor 64:12.
sent 14:9, 29:12, 30:3, 41:13,
71:5.
sentenced 5:21, 6:4, 33:7, 33:24,
34:4, 71:15, 75:19, 87:2.
sentences 12:5, 12:7, 14:2, 24:3,
34:11, 35:2, 49:18, 73:16,
73:18.
separate 20:8, 82:17.
series 26:21.
serious 19:14, 29:5, 29:6, 29:8,
30:19, 32:11, 38:2, 63:10,
66:13, 76:11, 81:10.
seriously 57:22, 82:23.
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suggested 40:14.
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versus 2:5.
VI 17:16.
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via 27:19.
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